How Long Does it Take to Get Your Black Belt In Judo Vs In Bjj
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I started judo 1981 and still have a green belt after 39 years. My sensei is really really hard to please. We must attend classes and I haven't been attending in 37 years...
long layoff
@@OGFITNESS hehehe 😊
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So he gave you a green belt in just 2 years? Jesus, people out there goes so fast
I train judo 8 years and im a blue belt
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That’s funny because I’m actually getting it in December and this is my 9th year as a judoka😂
You got that right
Ive been training judo since I was 5, and it's been about 12 years now, I just got awarded my black belt the other day. Crazy journey
Congrats 👏
Well done bro
BJJ
White to blue = pretty fast
Blue to purple = a little longer
Purple to brown = forever
Brown to black = fast
Judo
Beginner to rokyu = almost instant
Rokyu to Gokyu = fast
Gokyu to yonkyu = pretty fast
Yonkyu to Sankyu = pretty fast
Sankyu to Nikyu = pretty fast
Nikyu to Iikyu = a little long
Iikyu to shodan = forever.
In BJJ you end up with forever purple belts. In judo you end up with forever brown belts. These are the plateau points that many have a hard time breaking thru.
Thats so true, bjj at purple, judo at brown.
I’ve never really cared for time being a factor to be honest, it’s when you improve. If there’s a guy at your gym who’s been there for 10 years and is barely any better, he shouldn’t have progressed. If you’ve got a prodigy who’s training at the gym 8 hours a day winning tournaments and submitting people way beyond their level in the gym and out the gym then they should be higher than the belt they are. It’s not a how long thing, it’s a quality thing where you use your time wisely.
True. but generally speaking the average guy will train 2-3 times a week and at that rate it takes the 5-10 years. But of course the obsessed and gifted will get there black belt faster.
Eh. I roll with guys who are black belts but have had life throw isht at them. Cancer, surgery, etc.
Those guys are talented af, but you wouldn’t tell because they are coming back.
The belt should be earned. That means it cannot be taken away, and the respect will remain there even after the person is dead.
The belt isn’t about the current talent level.
I started off in judo (my favorite grappling art) got to brown then transitioned to bjj and ended up in the 10th planet system, I am a purple belt under Eric ramey and Erik Cruz and still to this day judo is a much tougher sport.
Did you find Judo more physically challenging?
@@jd8226 most definitely. At the end of class we’ll roll 6-7 5min rounds at a high work paces and that’s bearable but 1, 5 min judo man and your gasping for air. And it’s harder on your body.
Why you quit Judo? Go and get your black belt bro
Unfinished buisness
@@alivm2531 because if I got back to judo I would be so far behind in jj. Can’t stop now should be getting my black belt in the near future. So Bjj is my priority now.
When I trained Judo in Poland for 10 years, the sensei's didn't give belts as easily, I did it for approximately 9/10 years 2/3 times a week and I was able to get to green (Blue, but i didn't want to pass, as I didn't feel like one).
On the other hand when i went to the Netherlands and trained there for a year, I had seen 12/13yo kids with brown belts.
In conclusion I think it all depends on the club, and mostly on the sensei. I still remember my 1st sensei spreadsheet when he had an achievement of being 1st/2nd/3rd on the national championships, just to be able to pass on black.
Though, my father who started older (with same sensei as my first), got the belts quicker, I think the attitude might be a bit different
I had a similar experience in New York. After six years I have a green belt. Then again, I don't feel like my judo is very good and the teaching is non existent. Unlike BJJ where techniques are discussed and drilled at every class.
You are right. I live in the Netherlands and do judo since I was 6 once a week, I am 13 now and I am a blue belt. Here they give usually about 2 steps of progression (color stripes) per exam which is about every 6 months.
Also from Poland, I’m only doing it for a year now 3 times a week and I’m still white belt. The highest belt apart from sensei (3rd dan) is a blue belt who traines 10-11 years by now. I think in Poland judo community doesn’t care about belts that much, we got that „belts doesn’t fight for you” mentality I guess
Got my judo black in 5.5 years.
right? some peopel argue with me regarding that time line.
It took me 12 years to become a black belt. But the colour of the belt is not very important to me so I barely took any exams although i'm Training 4 Times a week
I love that judo shirt! Never seen one like that!
Thx Ramon! It's from my first judo club
My first day of Judo last Friday at 46, I didn't even thought to count the time before I would get a black belt... I don't even have a Gi lol :D Thanks for the video!
I'm getting ready to start soon. I'm 44 now. Is it okay on you body?
he must of been mashed the week he wrote this, man be looking like stephen hawkin in a GI@@terrancemanning9140
I'm going to tell my students to subscribe to your channel keep up the great work
Personally I also think its a better idea to learn Judo before Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (if you're serious about grappling arts) because BJJ came from Judo and its good to have the basics in check first.
Theres very little takedown training I feel in BJJ like 80/20 ground/standing, so to get where you want in BJJ much easier, Judo should be first. Also those who compete in BJJ are much deadlier when they know both.
More like 95/5 for BJJ. I’ve literally seen takedowns come around in a curriculum once or twice per year in 3 different BJj schools.
I realize heavy competition clubs in certain areas may be different. But 95/5 or 90/10 would be common place for your average BJJ club across the US.
My BJJ professor is a 3rd degree black belt in judo and just got his 2nd degree black belt a month ago in BJJ and kills ppl in competitions and he's only 37. Judo 100% is more fun and makes you that much harder to deal with.
Judo is now more 70/30 Tachi/newaza. I practice Judo and Sambo, Sambo is more like 60/40
I was reading “mind over muscle” by Jigoro Kano. He said that focusing on Newaza before nagawaza will hinder your progress in learning nagawaza later on.
Good channel, with great content. Subbed
Much appreciated!
Great info brother, nice shirt by the way
Appreciate that! Thx for watchng!
I got my yellow belt in 2 months from 3 years wrestling. Such an amazing sport 🥋
What you have to realize though is the belts mean two different things a BJJ black belt means that person is an expert, a Judo black belt means that the person can take whatever you can throw at them in a comp so do your worst, it's how my sensi explained it to me. Training both has actually helped me speed up my grading in Judo(my sensi said he saw me doing stuff higher ranked stuff) because i've drilled judo stuff during open mat stuff at the bjj club I'm a member of and drilled it in respect of how it will help me with my all round grappling.
I would say it actually varies a lot depending on the countries and the coach.
In countries where they have a bigger judo population, I would say fosters the mentality you mention where blackbelt means you have grasped all the fundamentals. In countries where judo community is rather small, they want their blackbelts to maintain a certain level and therefore make it challenging to get your blackbelt.
In places like Korea and Japan, it takes about 2-3 years. But there’s a huge variance in skill levels between competition judoka vs everyday judoka. Bear in mind competition judokas typically train 3-5 hours per day 5-6 times a week.
In Australia where I currently live, I would say on average anywhere between 5-10 years. You need comp points to progress from Blue belt onwards.
Thanks! Thats was very insightful and makes perfect sense.
Denmark is the same alot of people say 7 years but thats probably if you're talented
Gotta love that Skinshape in the background
In judo it depends on which part of the world you practice.....where im from it takes on average 6 to 8 years to achieve a shodan ( 1st degree black belt), this is due to the initial japanese influence here in the 1950s and 60s ...... in france its almost similar there too....because of their form judo is also old school
When I trained Judo I was 15/16 years old. My grading was understanding the names of the throws and then performing them. I was graded at Orange 3 at that point for my knowledge. I then had to go to a tournament to fight others, however I was too heavy for the white belts there so had to fight yellow and orange I think, maybe just yellow. I won 3/4 fights and was given an orange belt with 2 tags. In BJJ it took me 2 years to get my blue which is about right. I am giving myself the target or 3 years to get my purple training 2/3 times a week depending on work.
U only get 1 belt once every 1,5 years in judo where I live
damn thats long, but its all about the journey in the end, the belts come in due time.
I've put in 8.5 years in Judo. I'm very close, but I haven't hit first Dan yet. It really depends on where you are, I suppose. There's no real rush.
Yeah, 5yrs is strange to hear. Never known a Judoka that has done that from a real dojo.
I miss doing Judo. :'(. Thanks to an idiot, he ended my dream
What happened?
@@Todo_fighting he tackled me, like it was football, while doing newazza and I broke my fibula bone. I never recovered from my injury.
@@GoodfellasNYC sad to hear☹
5 years average to judo black belt sounds new to me. I've never met anyone who took only 5 years. I'm from Sao Paulo and I got my black belt on 2002 after at least 8 years (I was 17 at the time). My brother started judo when he was 4 yo and trained for 11, 12 years (he decided to stop) and he s a brown belt. I think you re talking about a very specific reality (US, Canada?) and the average period of training to achieve black belt in judo varies depending on the country.
For children the progression curve is different, because you're not supposed to learn or use elbow locks and constrictions until the age of 13 in most federations while some its 15, so from elementary school to junior high school Judo is exclusively throws and pins.
im from canada, from all the comments i see its different from country to country and of course from club to club. interesting.
true, kids progression is diff. i dont even think you can officially be black belt until your 16 yo
@@OGFITNESS Yes, that is how it is in most federations. I started Judo in second grade, and didn't get my black belt in Judo until I graduated from high school.
Yeah at my club you'd be lucky to get a green belt in that time. We have orange belts who have been with us for a couple of years or longer and train regularly
Nice comparison of BJJs and Judo's way to blackbelt. Thanks for that.
What I'm missing is that the systems differ from country to country and more important from Dojo to Dojo. I think that when you spoke about Judo, you spoke about the american way, right? I'm from Germany and we have a totally different way since we have "half-colored" (is this the right term???) belts.
(white, white-yellow, yellow, yellow-orange, orange, orange-green, green, blue, brown, black)
In my Dojo we do one exam per year. With the preparation phase (Kata & Tournaments) of two years for a 1st Dan this sums up to 11 years to reach the black belt.
For judo, I would say it takes 8-10 years for your black belt. Besides that, everything you said about how it’s the start of your journey is correct.
For me it took 6
I imagine it depends on your region
As black belt in Jiu-jitsu with 14 years on the mat I measure myself against other black belts. Not people who know nothing. Its a new beginning. I never understood what this meant until I received my black belt
That's where I'm looking to be
Honestly, it took me 21 years to get my black belt in judo and the people I know here in Brazil achieve it on average in 10 or 12 years (and a lot of people never do) anyway... the minimum time might be 6 months in several countries for promotion, but in reality it requires at least 1 year, I spent 4 years as a brown belt, for example.
And I also practice BJJ and I have to say: With both black belts, this is just the beginning...
You seem pretty educated over martial arts and judo. I’m a jui jitsu guy. I’m about a year into my training and I’m considering judo for stand up.
do boxing or if there is a gym nearby, muay thai
@@herrschniedler4207 nah judo is where it’s at G
nice video
I've written about this before, it depends in IJF, I'd been doing Judo for yrs but I have a friend who been doing it religiously for 26yrs and he keeps failing his mid grades cos his bottle goes on the day and he keeps losing his fights and he stopped going to gradings at brown belt, he's a great fighter in the club and takes out many black belts but that's the way it goes,, here is the Dan grade requirements in BJA UK IJF which is the Olympic body.
After completing your theory and kata requirements, you fight on top of that away from the club, in a sports centre with up to 6 mats depending. You need 100 points, each fight is 20 points. You have to win by minimum of submission, a hold down or a perfect throw, in other words an ippon. 5 brown belts who didn't get their Dan grade on the day face you, bow and four walk off. You fight one, if you win by anything other than an ippon it doesn't count, and the game is over, if you win by ippon within the 5 mins you get 1min rest, then the other brown belt comes on, each win has to be defeated with ippon to get your grade on the day, hence 100 points, if you fail to defeat even the fifth brown belt with ippon, even if you win, the game is over. After that you have to reach now 200 points and u cannot fight within three months. You then become as the other brown belts who faced you in three months time, you cannot fight for your Dan grade on the day, u only get one chance. But if you won four fights, that's eighty points against your 200,So then every fight you have from then on is against a brown belt trying to get his black belt, each win by ippon for you is then 20 points, they go toward your 200 and any fights you won by ippon on the day you took your black belt, also goes toward you 200 points.(in our case 80points, four fights). It's a great system imo and that's on top of what you see in this video which is your theory. What the system does is level out most fighters somewhere along the line, for example, if your a natural bruiser with ok tech,and you got your black belt on the day and fairly quickly say 5yrs, you will get held back for your second Dan because of the technical skill level finds you out, if you have fighters who failed there's on the day and took longer but cos of the extra experience, gained better technique and they will defeat you later on because of that. This is a broad brush explanation from when I was in the system 20 yrs ago. And every individual is different, some train much harder than others, some have a natural flair etc etc, BUT, I have a friend that's a great fighter but his nerve goes in crowds and with spectators, his club judo is beautiful but he's been doing judo for 20 plus yrs and still hasn't got his Dan grade, his bottle goes on the day cos we don't fight in our own club for gradings, we have to go away to sport centres where the bleachers are full, a bit like fighting in a stadium at the Olympics with three mats out. Now if your not an IJF club it may be different which this guy in this video sounds like he's not an IJF club,not that it matters so much but you shouldn't be taking you Dan grade in your club amongst people your used to fighting, it's not useful imo, fight fighters you don't know, it will end up giving you a broader skill set.
I've been doing Judo for 6 years but I am still green belt, I beat many brown belts and black belts during Randori. I am not at higher rank because I didn't want to pay for expensive certificates and belts.
Each belt in canada is 40-60 classes. Brown to Black has a firm 1 yr time period and 120 pts... 10 pts per win at recognized events, 3pts for a camp (max 3 camps ayr). I would guess a blackbelt actually is around 8yrs.
Like the channel man! I’m 37 and looking to start training Judo once the gyms open back up. I’m mainly interested in learning judo for self defense and fitness. I have a strong background in Muay Thai and was wondering if you have any tips on deciding whether a gym is right for me or not? How can I tell if it’s just a McDojo or actually worth something?
worth a video brotha, i''l answer this for you in a vid.
No McDojo in Judo. Since they are more like Bjj. It is who you are train under. If it is legit with proof of certificates then he is legit.
I started judo in 1990 i have my black belt now i was not in a hurry to earn it i like the art of judo the the compatition
maybe next project could be a spelling class
it takes a lot longer than 5 years. I mean when you get your Brown Belt you'll take 2 years just on your Brown Belt alone but it is true in Judo Shodan is where you really start to learn in Judo. I think if Judo did what BJJ does which is have you spend 2 years on each belt then yeah you'll take 10 years. But there are many guys who obtained their BJJ Black Belts in 5 or 6 years and I think it's all about the money to keep you training and paying for all those years. In Judo not only we have to master all the throws but also have to master NeWaza grappling which in my opinion is a lot harder. for any BJJ guy who doesn't think so just go and train Judo and you'll see just hard it is
They also changed the rules since BJ Penn got his BB in three years, there used to be no rules it was all up to the instructors discretion.
I think much dep on how rigoorusly you train, how often and also the level of instruction.. One guyI know got to black belt in just under 5 years, but he hasdwrestled for 2 seasons already.. Natural athlete, though
Judo takes one year to get black belt for every day evening (6pm to to 7.30pm) at kodokan .
I have practiced judo for over 20 years now. I got my black belt after the 10th year. I had won many competitions but nevertheless it took a lot of time to get my belt. For it i had to learn the kata and compete with 6 other strong black belts and win at least 4 matches. This were the conditions of my 5th dan sensei.
I train judo every day and im green, but i train 6 years
Still impressive
My teacher is a bjj blackest and says it’s kind of the beginning but the gap between black belts is in teaching and experience and respect. Competitive black belts are the exception but a 3rd Dan black belt is a legit monster. 3rd Dan is what I consider mastery and ranks beyond it are honary and well deserved like inventing a new move or being the best teacher ever. I met a master 6th Dan and I know 9th Dan is the highest obtainable but it will go down as you can only rank 1 belt lower. Unless tradition changes they were talking about a blue bar instead of red bar for the stripes and stuff.
Guys, 5 years judo is pretty typical.... when you compete regularly that is. But that's what judo has evolved into, a sport for competition. Bjj is evolving that way too. The biggest difference between judo and bjj isn't necessarily the ne waza differences, although despite a major lack of understanding from many is very big, but the environment which they are trained in. Due to rise of sport bjj that is changing drastically.
Took me 13 years to get my black belt in Judo, more because I branched out for a while and also trained BJJ and Wrestling.
Don’t regret taking the long way round though, made me a better fighter overall.
Bjj, Wrestling, Judo, = complete grappler
@@OGFITNESS wrestling in particular is beneficial. Because there’s no gi, you have to constantly readjust your grips and timing has to be so much better.
You should clarify that you're talking about the US, and also beginning judo when you're an adult or teenager. In Japan, where I've lived and played judo for 26 years, you still go from white to black. And, other countries more serious about judo, like France tend to follow the Japanese traditions when it comes to promotion. There are very few dojos in Japan that have adopted western rankings of yellow, green, etc. Typically, you start in elementary school at about 5yrs of age and get shodan when you're in junior high, nidan in high school, and sandan in college. If you continue after that, then you're most likely to be hired by a corporate team and become a professional judo player. In Japan there are very few people that start judo as adults since most are introduced to the sport/art in gym class during grade school.
Im going to make another video and clarify those points you mentioned and add a few things i recently learnt as well. Hey so how many years is between Elementary school, junior high, high school and college?
@@OGFITNESS Elementary school is from age 5-12, 1st-6th grade in US terms, junior high is 7th-9th, and high school is 10th-12th. If a kid starts judo in 1st grade, like I did, they can get shodan as early as 8th grade (you have to be at least 13yrs of age regardless of school year). Obviously, if you only start playing at 12yrs, you're looking at several years before you can get shodan depending on how quickly you learn. As a side note...due to this "regularity" with promotion when you meet someone in Japan who is a sandan, you can assume they played into college. Anyone who is a yodan or higher most likely went pro meaning they were hired by a corporate team and actually got paid to play judo. That's the big difference between the US and Japan. My father was a rokudan in the USJA (USA Judo now, I think), but that was only because he spent his life teaching and had time-in-grade. Any rokudan in Japan was a professional judo player and as such has about 10 times as much experience as a typical rokudan in the US who just got promoted because they paid their annual dues. Sorry to sound cynical, I have a long history in the politics of judo in the US.
I’m 13 I started judo when I was 6 that’s 7 years I’m only on my blue belt
me too
Quarantine: actually add 5+ years
In BJJ it took Orlando Sanchez 4 years for his black belt that’s the shortest time I heard and he didn’t have grappling background
there was BJ Penn and Kit Dale that did in in like 3 i believe.
USJF has different belt colors for under 17 years of age and different number of belts for under 17.
Is it only for kids or why did i get white, white/yellow, yellow, yellow/orange, orange, orange/green and so on for my judo belts as a kid?
Id say on average it does take longer to get black belt in bjj however in judo it depends on ur instructor and where you are training.
I should say it can very from club to club, and coach to coach for example where I train it actually takes 10 years to get a Judo black belt. There are many reasons for this but I would say it's because the head coach feels people don't do enough Judo outside of places like Japan where it can take 2-3 years, and also has really high standards because he's an Olympic Judoka. But in my humble opinion realistically speaking that means that guys who reach black belt are realistically closer to 2nd dan level rather than 1st.
Its 5 to 10 pretty much, i got mine in 8 but thats due to covid, would have gotten it in 5
Most Judo Dojo in Japan don't use coloured belts. Many Kids start at 5years old and will have a white belt until they 15 years old and then subject to their skill level at that time will be given their Black Belt. If you start Judo after 15years of age you may get your Black belt in 12mths if you train hard and win enough shiai..
What’s better to start with?
Thanks bro this was very useful info but can you tune down the music
Noted
@@OGFITNESS safe bro
They say bjj black belt is just the beginning of the journey. This is true. This is different I believe than other martial art black belt simply because there are countless techniques, combinations and permutations in bjj, and it's constantly evolving. So at Black, yes you have all the basics and then some. You know how to fight. Yes you're a "master", but there is so much more depth after the black belt. This is my experience.
100% agree with you, it can take easily a lifetime to truly master an art.
how nice!
I got my Judo Black belt in 6 years, I started Judo at the age of 18 and got my black belt at 24.
Wow Im so jealous of you. Im much older and I eish I could start judo at 18
In Balkans you need years in judo training for a black belt.
Oh yeah around 10 yrs for black belt.
It depends a lot on where you´re training, it took me 8 years to get my black belt in judo (this year i was supposed to do my nidan, but stupid covid). I stayed in white belt for about a year and the i got promoted directly to orange (skipped yellow), I stayed in orange for about two years and then got propomed to blue (skipped green), stayed on blue belt another two years until i got my brown belt, and I stayed as a brown belt for three years. It is a lot of time considering the fact that i was training 2 times a day (4 hours total), from monday to friday, and one training session on saturdays, since my last year on orange belt. Btw, I used to train so much because I was selected by my state to compete nationally.
But when I look back I´m really grateful that it took me 8 years of really hard training, learning and studying (I also had to take courses and written exams), I wouldn´t like to be a crappy black belt who knows nothing and still got the shodan just because I payed my monthly tuition (Judo is free here, you only pay for the exams, and the black belt exam in held by an Invited 8th dan).
Great
In judo 5th dan is last because till that level u give exam from 6th it is upon federation and politics
I am now 4 years judo and I have green Friday 7 juli I get bleu
In Brazil it takes much more than 5 five years in Judo.
You dont get any belt in less than a year each, at least in Brazil.
Hardly ever you see someone who got the black belt with less than 10 years of training;
I'll show you mine when i get it, would have had it already if not for the pandemic
@@OGFITNESS I hope you get the black belt soon, and become the best judoka you can be! I have had the opposite path! Im a judo black belt, but after an injury n my knee and sone years without training, started to train bjj instead.
I hope i can return to judo either some day! But thats not easy when you are older!
The beginning had me laughing hard. It's SO true about BJJ. You have a couple of belts & 16,057 stripes for EACH one! 🤣 It seems you go nowehere real fast. As for HOW you get to the next stripe or belt wellllllll .... thats where I disagree with you, just a little bit. I think it's honestly based on what the coach is partial to. I am incrediblly busy, so I personally go 1-2 times per week & only have 1 stripe on my white belt. Its been there a while, yet I STILL keep folding people who have 3 or 4 stripes. So I guess where I am at, they're not really focused on "if you can fight" as much as "how many of OUR BJJ techniques do you use IN a fight & do you know our terms we use?" To put in context here, I DO have other martial arts under my belt, but they are srtiking forms. In those, naturally, with the amount of belts you progress faster, but in the others, I also never really met a coach that seemed more fixated on "the dance" rather than being able to win an actual fight. Evem if you struggled with certain moves, if you're a beast to mess with, you're a beast! My experience with BJJ so far is that, while the coach we have is excellent at teaching no doubt, I feel there is a "competition world" obsession. In BJJ competitions vs striking martial arts competitions, it seems again, there is an obsession with techniques & the question of "is that a full pass?" when earning points. To use BJJ in a real fight outside of a dojo or off-the-mat, no one will ask "is that a full pass?" & then suddenly you get points & that determines if you won the fight. For me, that has been the harder adjustment to make from striking forms to now a grappling one.
you missed out the dan system of judo black belts .... aka 1-10 ontop of your basic black
I like belts cause you can have them as memory
The only one im keeping is my Black Belt
If the first level of judo black belt is really just the beginning and bjj black belt is mastery , Which judo black belt level would be the equivalent of mastery? Hope that makes sense 😆
how do u practice judo for 5 years? you never moved? i'm having a hard time trying to keep up because i've moved and the nearest dojo is like 5 hrs drive away. thinking about making a home gym but i have no partner to randori. any advice ? and how do u make time to train while working 9-5?
i'll make a video for ya, short answer, lots of clubs in my area, and i've moved once in the past 5 years and changed clubs twice.
@@OGFITNESS kudos. ive been wanting to step up my training but unable to do it since i moved to a new place. and i've no idea how to support myself if i have to stop working to join a training camp for like 2-3 yrs let alone 5-10 years.
Black belt in judo sounds kinda equivalent to purple belt (average 5-6 years) in BJJ.
Where I do judo you become a brown belt after six years of practice and only if the sensei agrees, you change a belt a year and when you become a brown belt you have to wait two years to take the exam for the black one, so in total eight years.
It also depends what you mean by "black belt". There ARE strikes in judo. Many Judo schools don't teach striking. If you don't know some striking you aint no Judo black belt.
i think both the sport compliment each other ,its not really about which ones better that's subjective if your good at both then your going to be a handful PERIOD
100%
in israel it takes about 13 years to become a black belt although usually its around 10
Thats right i wanted to be an expert i got it afterc10 yrs
Took me 8 due to covid🤷♂️
I just started judo 🥋 and I’m a white belt I’ve been going for 3 weeks so I’m a noob
We all start at the beginning, keep training, osu!
When I trained Judo the fastest I saw someone get a black belt was 7-8 years.
I guess this depends on the country. Judo black belt is at least 10 years in France.....
The coaches at my judo most are still black and have been doing it 50 odd years
My sensei definitely did not give out belts easy I and for his original wave of students he did not follow the traditional belt system. I started judo back in 2001 and competed up until 2013 I came in with 2 years of wrestling experience, and through the journey I went from white to yellow then brown, I was a brown belt forever then finally black belt after 10 years. Every tournament I was always in my own weight class and also in another bumped up one weight and also in black belt division, so got pretty used to just finishing a match and already Another mat waiting for me to show up immediately. It took me a about two years to win my first black belt division tournament as a yellow belt at the time. If I learned anything its belts don't mean anything they just hold your pants up.
In japan, judo belts are white, brown, and black.
The sequence of the belts in judo is different in each country, for example, i am from Brazil, i trained judo for 9 years and i am brown belt, so, its a lie you say someone will get the judo black belt in 5 years! There is 8 belts before the black belt in judo not 7, of course it depends of the country but anyways its everything almost the same time to get an black belt.
Jiu jitsu takes a same time for a black belt promotion.
Great video, but I'd argue that a black belt in BJJ makes anyone a master of the art. I have trained for 10 years now in BJJ and when I travel I carry my gi and rash guard in case there is a cool local gym to drop in on. In my short martial arts career I have learned that there is always more to learn and the anyone whom says they know it all is full of BS. There are few "masters" and I'd argue a black belt is akin to earning a doctorate but like a doctorate it's up to the practionor to further their knowledge. Get black belts in several martial arts, that makes you a master. IMO.
i actually like watching /Judo on youtube here or in competition better than say UFC. Judo doesnt seem like it'd be of any use in street fighting but soem good stuff to know...5 years isnt long maybe i should tkae it up.
ill make a video clarifying a few things that i learnt recently regarding how fast it takes to get a black belt in Judo. Osu!
Got my black belt in 7 years in judo competing 3-4 times a year and training 2-3 times per week. I could have got it 6 years but didn’t compete for about 2 years at ikkyu so that slowed me down. But for bjj I’d say 8 years if they’re under the same instructor the whole time is pretty normal. Though 10 years is a good base point as well.
Does judo have belt tests
Actually in judo there are a lot more belts: white, yellow white, yellow, yellow orange, orange, orange green, green, blue green, blue, blue brown, brown, brown black, black, black dan 1, dan 2, dan 3, dan 4, dan 5, dan 6, dan 7, dan 8, dan 9, dan 10, dan 11 and dan 12
id like to know certain martial arts...Judo ive never really had a desire for but im 40 now so 5 years seems ok ...sounds a bit badass too yeah im a blakc belt...but ive had this kick lately wanting to learn martial arts of soem sort so i bought a bunch of books. and according to the book im at the red blet test in karate and still white in taekwondo and i have a krav maga book and Ju-jitsu book. Krav Maga is a bit messed its like deadly not sure i want to know that ..anyway the jarate is fun its not in the studio but the book tells you all the moves you you learn with each belt colour and the test you need to complete to ge teh next belt so im orange now according to the book and im at the red belt test..when it gets nice enough out maybe i go into teh parking lot where theres enough space and do the test :) so ....
Depending ..in US to get black belt cuz is a business where I am from probably in 7 or 10 years
yeah if its a mcdojo then you get a belt quite fast i imagine.
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Kano invented the belt system.
No, it was introduced by a French judoka. Back in the days of the kodokan you had a white belt, then after a period of time, you earned your black belt
exactly
Took my dad 8 years to get his green
You do not have to compete to get a black belt in Judo per IJF rules. Yes, it is encouraged....but there are many who may not be able to compete for whatever reason. It is not required.
I think you are off on the time line. I’ve been doing Judo 22 years. Most schools it takes 10 to 12 years and being in practice 4 to 5 days a week. There are some schools that focus on Technique more than competition that use a point system to give out a belt. The real schools you spend years Competing as well as technique and time in practice to get a belt promotion. I think this what happened to Karate over the years paying for belts. There are schools, not many that are starting to do that.
It's 3 white and 3 brown...not 7 color belts. Also black belts in judo in some clubs are awarded by competition participating or winning. Judo is a sport was invented as a sport.
There’s six in bjj, you forgot about the coral belt..
lol!! uz right my friend!
Why do bjj schools charge twice as much as any other martial arts school?
Because it works
lol!! that's true
There are not many higher ranks in BJJ out there. In karate there are so many, even an 8yr old can get it. Supply and demand.
I train Judo, i have a white belt cuz i started yesterday, how much will it take me to get a yellow belt if i train 3 times a week?
Don't think about getting belts in that sense. Work on your judo and fall in love with the sport. I did judo from 2008-2021 and I got my black belt january 2021. As long as you improve you'll rank up in belts. Best of luck!
@@ilomas02 Thank you! I love Judo alot, i started training 2 years ago, but i stopped. Now i am training again.
Took my mate 6 years to get his blue belt in bjj
Damn, thats a long ass time
10 years of BJJ VS 10 years of Judo? Whats your opinon?
hmm... not sure what the question is, do you mean who would beat who or what your better off doing?
10-11 Years at 5 years your still missing a lot of good nourishment you need. But the Average BJJ Black is Equivalent To a Judo yellow belt his tactical waza is no where close to what it should be and it’s only fair to him the BJJ black will get caught in a lot of techniques he won’t see coming even from white belts so let’s not get it twisted I don’t have high expectations when it comes to there stand up they get treated like everyone else.
lol, for sure, black belts in bjj who dont cross train heavily in Judo of course will suck at tachi waza. I realized that wehen i transitioned to Judo, thought i knew a few throws but wow, so many details missing.
My bjj club we do a “lot” of stand up. I was a blue belt but ranked to an orange belt in judo in knowledge day 1. But I was consistently throwing green belts with just an ouchi gari and phasing equally with blue belts with simple techniques. I did have to learn tons of the intricacies of kuzushi but my competitive sense was there.
Not the norm but my club dedicates time to standup as my teacher did judo but it’s hugely varied in skill. Still pretty bad in judo terms. I know some gyms where black belt stand up is worse than mine when I was a white belt by just pulling guard.
The standing game is incredibly more subtle than the ground game. Not resisting the opponent, noticing gaps in his balance, exploiting them correctly etc take much longer to master than groundwork.
It's a shame that many judo clubs give brown and black belts to people with only 3-5 years of training.