How to build a deck in hearth. Add Rag, Alexstrasza, Black Knight, Sylvanas, Cairne, Harrison, Ysera, two sludge belchers and then a bunch of class cards.
verycasualgamer You don't even need legendaries in priest. It's entirely possibly not to have Harrison and even Sylvanas can be replaced with something like a shadow word death, a mind control or a good 5 cost minion.
Lol... the meta in this game is totally crazy right now. The other day, I played vs an alarmabot/conceal into Malygod turn... a million points of damage in turn 5 or so. Needless to say, I totally lost, but I played the whole game with a smile in my face. I don't even know what is going to happen when GvsG launches... and I can't wait to see it happen. ^_^
I've played that deck. Needless to say, it's super awesome when you pull off Alarm-o-bot conceal into Gadgetzan or Malygos and you win super fast, but it's way inconsistent, way more inconsistent than regular Malygos Rogue.
lkjkhfggd Oh yeah, I am sure. Alarmabot is always a huge risk, and cutting risks and making consistent decks is what make profesional players different. Although it looks fun as hell to run. :p My point is that if someone is able to be succesful with that deck (relatively speaking, since that was around rank 5, not legend), then the meta in this game can evolve into everything you can imagine. Probably into some things you can't even imagine, too.
Buy some packs or do some grinding. Nobody wants to hear anybody else complain about there personal misfortune, when they could do something to change it.
Mattz0r98 Half an hour a day does it. I opened 4 legendaries from roughly 80 packs within 3 months.It's not as tough as it seems. And you also got the crafting way from all golden commons you get.
Hey Jens, this is minor detail but I really liked how you included the cards at around 1:50 (the ones that could be included). Thanks! Should do it more in the future :)
Anybody else notice the technical mistake, 5:14 trump draws Cairne and Grommesh is marked off. I'm sure others noticed but I saw nothing in the comments so..
My play at 18:05 Axe the egg, execute the spawn (it was played before the axe). Play Unstable ghoul. Everything on the board dies and you get to armor up. The Undertaker could survive with 1-2hp if he played deathrattle cards.
I got all the legendaries for this deck just from doing arena and gathering dust. It's kind of ironic though, as I don't ever play constructed, just arena, yet I have a lot of cards needed to play some constructed decks that players who just wanna play constructed don't have...
at around 10:40 he said that handlock he considers valid. Do you know what kind of deck he would use as a handlock? Does he have one online for us to see?
I feel that Deathwing is superniche in CW, due to the idea that he can be really good when you're stealing back the game, due to the massive tempo swing of a board clear. However, it only really works if your opponent doesn't have the hard removal to counter Deathwing.
This kinda reminds of spiderman 3 with venom, when Peter changes to black clothes and has that stiff look and never smiles or laughs. Trump, don't go to the side of evil!
I know it is what makes a control warrior, but I don't have garrosh. I replaced it with the gorehowl as it can have a 7 attack face, or around 25 board damage. I also don't have harrison, alextrasza, or black knight. I have all the other suggested cards by trump as well. What can I put in?
Trump said that going 3 wins on average is the usual amount of wins to profit gold but i usually go 4-5 wins cus i'm a scrub but always end up playing ranked to get enough gold for a new arena. Any suggestions on gold grinding?
4-5 wins makes you go even on value, you get about what you pay for. You have to go to 7 to profit. If you can't do 7 reliably, like most people in Hearthstone, you just have to quest. 7 wins is not easy.
As much as I like to see trump climb latter I think I would like to see him playing with viewers decks,tweak,and give us advice.There are so many times I think I built a decent deck only to get completely stomped.
Sorry for the wall of text :P But i want to say something about RNG in hearthstone.. RNG creates more situations a player needs to account for. When you play a card like Lightning Bolt, you know precisely what you're getting, which means planning out your turn is incredibly simple. For an example of skill in RNG, say you have lightning storm, your opponent has 5 creatures with 2 health in play, and a Sylvanas with 3 health. You need to decide then, do you play the Lightning Storm? and from there, you need to look at everything all your different ways of handling this. e.g. Do you suicide your powerful minions so Sylvanas can't take one? Do you kill Sylvanas first so you can handle the minion she takes? Do you attack enemy face with everything to maximize face damage and then hope for a low roll? Do you just go for a full board reset by just clearing everything off and leaving Sylvanas with nothing to take? You have two major RNG effects at work: Sylvanas deathrattle and Lightning Storm's damage roll, but there is plenty you can do to control for that. What the RNG does is makes it so that to "solve" the turn, you need to account for multiple contingencies, and choose the best answer from the potential results. The best players are the ones who can most consistently choose the path that leads to the highest win rate. RNG just makes it harder to establish which path the best one is. Thus RNG is good for the skill cap.
I'm honestly surprised Trump put Deathwing in his list of Warrior Alternatives. I mean, I love the card for what it is, but I was under the impression it was almost entirely unviable.
I don't think so, Kel is only good when you have a board with a few mid-game-minions but Control Warrior relies mostly on late-game with a little bit early-game. I mean there are situations where Kel would be very good but these moments are rare.
Wait a minute. I looked at the alternative list and some of them doesn't make any sense to me. How does Deathwing, Staalag and Feugen help in a CW? I have all the alternative cards listed except Hogger and I am curious to try out CW. The problem is that I don't have Rag, Grommash, Alexstraza or Geddon. I made the mistake of dusting 3 of the 4 during the time when I didn't spend money on Hearthstone.
DXAdamJensen Deathwing as a last horah after all removals been used, Stallag and feugen is there to eat up removal while also being annoying to deal with.
Trump kinda slurred his words at 9:28 so I had to go back and listen. I thought he said innervate which totally would not have made since because warrior. Inner Rage however sounds a lot like innervate when mumbled.
Its very consistent, it has weaker match ups against aggro and control Paladin but against other control decks it has a strong match up, and even the aggro match ups aren't that much weaker. Control Paladin is the answer to Control Warrior, that said Control Paladin is weaker against Hunter and aggro than control warrior. Verdict: It is at least the second most consistent deck in hearthstone, arguably the most consistent deck due to a lack of Control Paladins and the above average number of ways to deal with early aggro.
As a control warrior player (never played anything else on ladder) I have a decent win rate vs everything. Probably the biggest counter is priest with two mind controls, two shadow word deaths two cabals (though those are easy to play around). Of course if you don't draw an axe or removal against aggro, you can be a fish out of water...but my win rate against aggro in the past week is 65%...which is huge. However the times I get beat by undertaker snow ball/ two flame imps and dire wolf is crushing. usually decided by turn three or four. You can either control the entirety of the game or get beaten very quickly. Consistency is key!
There's numerous reasons. Hunter's Mark immediately renders Ysera's massive health stat useless. It's also too late of a card like Hei said when the majority of Hunters are SUPER aggressive. If it gets Freezing Trap'd, you can't play Ysera anymore. The Dream cards also end up being rather useless versus Hunter. There's just a huge list of reasons why Ysera is insanely, insanely bad versus Hunter.
The meta game is so screwed right now. Yesterday I played against a half zoo half hand warlock. He zooed me in the early game. Then I gained control. Then Molten Molten Sunfury. Goodbye Jaina
Het Guys can you help me i play hearthstone alot but not pay for it but the problem when i see trump playing al Those legendarys i want te same to but i only have 1!! Except from naxrammes i am bad in arena but watch all i drafts so becoming slowly better i never reached hihger then 5 but now i do daily quests to unlock naxrammes. But pleas Some tips how i can get Those cool cards like Harrison Jones en ysera??? :(
Pick a good starting class, play every day, complete every quest for gold, play arena with the gold (never buy a deck), turn every card you don't need into dust. You'll get there eventually! If you want to shortcut, then pay real money.
Either you shell out lots of money to get the cards or get extra cards to turn into dust and craft them, or you play lots and lots of games and save up coins and buy card packs that way.
dont worry about it there are a lot of viable decks without a fuck ton of legendarys im in the same boat as you just a little further ahead I turn every card from mage hunter and druid into dust re roll all quests that are 40 in hope of getting higher rewards, playing worse decks can teach you a lot to get better oh and never buy packs with coins always go arena
Wait Frothing Beserker is not even a considered card in Pay2Warrior anymore? Damn i havent played this game in a long time. I am the old man sitting on the bench "Back in my day...!"
Its the meta. FB just seems die before it can do anything. Its used in charged warrior. Just it has no room in control warrior. Rather have AoP or Death bites in my control deck.
How to build a deck in hearth. Add Rag, Alexstrasza, Black Knight, Sylvanas, Cairne, Harrison, Ysera, two sludge belchers and then a bunch of class cards.
BGH is become a must have lately with everyone running cards you just mentioned, cheap rag removal.
*how to build a control deck
Zoo would like a word with you.
talk about losing to aggro… god tahts a lot of late game.
verycasualgamer You don't even need legendaries in priest. It's entirely possibly not to have Harrison and even Sylvanas can be replaced with something like a shadow word death, a mind control or a good 5 cost minion.
Lol... the meta in this game is totally crazy right now.
The other day, I played vs an alarmabot/conceal into Malygod turn... a million points of damage in turn 5 or so.
Needless to say, I totally lost, but I played the whole game with a smile in my face.
I don't even know what is going to happen when GvsG launches... and I can't wait to see it happen.
^_^
I've played that deck. Needless to say, it's super awesome when you pull off Alarm-o-bot conceal into Gadgetzan or Malygos and you win super fast, but it's way inconsistent, way more inconsistent than regular Malygos Rogue.
lkjkhfggd
Oh yeah, I am sure. Alarmabot is always a huge risk, and cutting risks and making consistent decks is what make profesional players different. Although it looks fun as hell to run. :p
My point is that if someone is able to be succesful with that deck (relatively speaking, since that was around rank 5, not legend), then the meta in this game can evolve into everything you can imagine. Probably into some things you can't even imagine, too.
Ken Reels Where were they shown off? The maximum I've seen so far were 37 cards.
Ken Reels There will be far more than that in a new expansion.
1st round inervate alarm o bot 2nd round ysera against a druid that was pretty fun
When you're like "yeh im gown build dis deck" then he picks like 8 legendary cards.
Buy some packs or do some grinding. Nobody wants to hear anybody else complain about there personal misfortune, when they could do something to change it.
Zach Hill Grinding to 8 legendaries? How much time do you have?
Mattz0r98 Half an hour a day does it. I opened 4 legendaries from roughly 80 packs within 3 months.It's not as tough as it seems. And you also got the crafting way from all golden commons you get.
MaxDragon Lol half an hour a day...for 6 months should do it.
Mattz0r98 i have like 7 legendaries and i have only played since like may of 2014, and i dont even play everyday
The "Other Possible Cards" at 1:49 is really helpful. Thanks!
Jeffrey Ede
Couldn't agree more.
This channel always mix information with entertainment perfectly (and a good presentation always helps, of course)
THANK YOU FOR THAT ALTERNATIVE CARD EDIT, SO USEFUL!
Haven't watched you in a while Trump and still your editing blows me away you make the best vids ever!
Jens does all the editing.
Hey Jens, this is minor detail but I really liked how you included the cards at around 1:50 (the ones that could be included). Thanks! Should do it more in the future :)
"I bring life, and BURRPP EXCUSE MEE!"
Armor, made to... GET BACK TO WORK
I have no times for GET TO WORK
Behold the might of GET IN THERE AND FIGHT MAGGOT
Armor, made to that belongs in a museum!
Nice, love to see Warrior again!
Anybody else notice the technical mistake, 5:14 trump draws Cairne and Grommesh is marked off. I'm sure others noticed but I saw nothing in the comments so..
now I'm sure : trump doesn't like golden cards xD
He will use golden cards if he has enough for a full deck he likes when his cards all look the same!
I always wondered why he hated golden cards.
But thats easily avoided by playing the golden card that you thought stealed.
Beshr Mushannen i'm 90% sure it is the same type as thoughtsteal, no matter what the original card is
Beshr Mushannen it 100% is
Great episode trump. I would love to see handlok warlock next time.
I love it when Trumps plays my favorite deck
Well who doesn't
I love seeing a consistent deck....think this and druid are the only real consistent decks in hearthstone and that's saying something.
7:10
Alekstraza, we excuse you for the last time!
Stormforged axe used to be popular? What card would you switch for it then? I still love using it.
My play at 18:05
Axe the egg, execute the spawn (it was played before the axe). Play Unstable ghoul. Everything on the board dies and you get to armor up.
The Undertaker could survive with 1-2hp if he played deathrattle cards.
Yay! I was missing my pay to warrior!
It's not Pay if you can unlock every item by playing and earning.
I got all the legendaries for this deck just from doing arena and gathering dust. It's kind of ironic though, as I don't ever play constructed, just arena, yet I have a lot of cards needed to play some constructed decks that players who just wanna play constructed don't have...
Adam Summers That is a ludicrous task.
BurkusCat It's ludicrous for a nub, git gud skrub.
Adam Summers Not only did you miss the joke, you went right to insulting. 8/8
We missed you too, Trump \^_^/ .
Wich card is more importent out of Harrison, The Black Knight and Baron Geddon?
at around 10:40 he said that handlock he considers valid. Do you know what kind of deck he would use as a handlock? Does he have one online for us to see?
Jens is a great editor.
I feel that Deathwing is superniche in CW, due to the idea that he can be really good when you're stealing back the game, due to the massive tempo swing of a board clear. However, it only really works if your opponent doesn't have the hard removal to counter Deathwing.
I want to see the room tour !
This kinda reminds of spiderman 3 with venom, when Peter changes to black clothes and has that stiff look and never smiles or laughs. Trump, don't go to the side of evil!
I beat this deck last time with a low budget tempo rogue deck. that felt pretty good.
I know it is what makes a control warrior, but I don't have garrosh. I replaced it with the gorehowl as it can have a 7 attack face, or around 25 board damage. I also don't have harrison, alextrasza, or black knight. I have all the other suggested cards by trump as well. What can I put in?
23:15 Could have kept Acolyte alive by silencing Edwin first, hitting him with Acolyte, then finishing him off with Taskmaster. Small plays...
Trump said that going 3 wins on average is the usual amount of wins to profit gold but i usually go 4-5 wins cus i'm a scrub but always end up playing ranked to get enough gold for a new arena. Any suggestions on gold grinding?
4-5 wins makes you go even on value, you get about what you pay for. You have to go to 7 to profit. If you can't do 7 reliably, like most people in Hearthstone, you just have to quest. 7 wins is not easy.
Boop Ferguson
Thanks
As much as I like to see trump climb latter I think I would like to see him playing with viewers decks,tweak,and give us advice.There are so many times I think I built a decent deck only to get completely stomped.
you're not you when you're hungry eat zombie chow, zombie chow satisfies
what programm for showing cards???? pls, I'm searching very long(
Can you still get the card back of the Rogue ?
Trump thank you for playin some warrio constructed i enjoy!
Trump, how do you feel about secret mage in the current meta? I keep getting destroyed by them...
He should make a Hunbender build deck. That should really fuck with their heads
Sorry for the wall of text :P
But i want to say something about RNG in hearthstone..
RNG creates more situations a player needs to account for. When you play a card like Lightning Bolt, you know precisely what you're getting, which means planning out your turn is incredibly simple. For an example of skill in RNG, say you have lightning storm, your opponent has 5 creatures with 2 health in play, and a Sylvanas with 3 health. You need to decide then, do you play the Lightning Storm? and from there, you need to look at everything all your different ways of handling this.
e.g. Do you suicide your powerful minions so Sylvanas can't take one? Do you kill Sylvanas first so you can handle the minion she takes? Do you attack enemy face with everything to maximize face damage and then hope for a low roll? Do you just go for a full board reset by just clearing everything off and leaving Sylvanas with nothing to take?
You have two major RNG effects at work: Sylvanas deathrattle and Lightning Storm's damage roll, but there is plenty you can do to control for that. What the RNG does is makes it so that to "solve" the turn, you need to account for multiple contingencies, and choose the best answer from the potential results. The best players are the ones who can most consistently choose the path that leads to the highest win rate. RNG just makes it harder to establish which path the best one is.
Thus RNG is good for the skill cap.
IT'S SYLVANAS GODDAMNIT
***** whoops!
ill change that just for you.
I swear every time the shaman only has a flame tongue totem on the board, they always get stoneclaw totems
You should totally take off the sludge beltchers, they don't have a star next to them, so harrison feels lonely up there :P
"hum,my thanks!"
I would love to be able to build a control warrior deck :(
Could you (Jens?) please upload the videos is 60fps? :)
OMG, Trump so cool!
That good deck almoust instantly?
Im here for the room tour.
I'm honestly surprised Trump put Deathwing in his list of Warrior Alternatives. I mean, I love the card for what it is, but I was under the impression it was almost entirely unviable.
Would Kel'Thuzad work in this deck?
I don't think so, Kel is only good when you have a board with a few mid-game-minions but Control Warrior relies mostly on late-game with a little bit early-game. I mean there are situations where Kel would be very good but these moments are rare.
Fahrenheit is playing Miracle rogue 2.0
yay trump, saved my sunday
for me it was akame ga kill.
Dymm Slayer try seven deadly sins
Tatsumi saved Mine after all...Happy moment.
Niar but Mine rekt Seryui FINALY
Dymm Slayer read the manga , but still don't post spoilers :P
What's the difference between a golden card and a regular one? :p
Blizzard's favorite deck at work....
when it will be control druid? ;(
Wait a minute. I looked at the alternative list and some of them doesn't make any sense to me. How does Deathwing, Staalag and Feugen help in a CW? I have all the alternative cards listed except Hogger and I am curious to try out CW. The problem is that I don't have Rag, Grommash, Alexstraza or Geddon. I made the mistake of dusting 3 of the 4 during the time when I didn't spend money on Hearthstone.
DXAdamJensen Deathwing as a last horah after all removals been used, Stallag and feugen is there to eat up removal while also being annoying to deal with.
GULDAN GULDAN
TheAllstar22 Interesting. I think I will add Staalag and Feugen. It could prove be very useful. Thanks for answering my question.
What do people run over storm axe?
Doom hammer
Trump kinda slurred his words at 9:28 so I had to go back and listen. I thought he said innervate which totally would not have made since because warrior. Inner Rage however sounds a lot like innervate when mumbled.
Are you going to do another free 2 play
So no more Priest ladder? ;(
8:15 Based Jens strikes again
TIL: Fiery Win Axe is good enough to earn a place in a Museum. Or two. Or more.
Jens i have a question plz reply.
7:10 "I bring life and-EEERRRRP! Excuse me...". Amaz called it.
did anyone notice that the first trumps opponent got all the taunt totems but the first one?
Is it true that control warrior is arguably the best deck in Hearthstone atm?
Its very consistent, it has weaker match ups against aggro and control Paladin but against other control decks it has a strong match up, and even the aggro match ups aren't that much weaker.
Control Paladin is the answer to Control Warrior, that said Control Paladin is weaker against Hunter and aggro than control warrior.
Verdict: It is at least the second most consistent deck in hearthstone, arguably the most consistent deck due to a lack of Control Paladins and the above average number of ways to deal with early aggro.
I appreciate that your comment wasn't condescending. Thanks for the info!
As a control warrior player (never played anything else on ladder) I have a decent win rate vs everything. Probably the biggest counter is priest with two mind controls, two shadow word deaths two cabals (though those are easy to play around). Of course if you don't draw an axe or removal against aggro, you can be a fish out of water...but my win rate against aggro in the past week is 65%...which is huge. However the times I get beat by undertaker snow ball/ two flame imps and dire wolf is crushing. usually decided by turn three or four. You can either control the entirety of the game or get beaten very quickly.
Consistency is key!
knows not to use the grommash hellscream
Whats the point of baron geddon? it seems to slow for zoo and hunter and didnt do anything in any of these games..
Ermaged, you forgot to "delete" Cairne in the first game, first time I see you do that ^^
No Ysera?
Trump , please make more ranked videos
Huh! My thanks.
Why always give up 1 hit before lethal? ^^
Because he's not a twat
Just wondering, why is Ysera bad against hunter? too late?
Yeah, when the game long enough for Ysera, you probably gonna win anyway.
ok thanks :)
There's numerous reasons. Hunter's Mark immediately renders Ysera's massive health stat useless. It's also too late of a card like Hei said when the majority of Hunters are SUPER aggressive.
If it gets Freezing Trap'd, you can't play Ysera anymore. The Dream cards also end up being rather useless versus Hunter. There's just a huge list of reasons why Ysera is insanely, insanely bad versus Hunter.
cdwwg Ok thank you for the in-depth reasoning :)
And what is the best class for me to f2p?
hunter/lock
Stei Nuf Won't getting the giants take forever?
Zoo
warlock
hunter if you payed for nax otherwise hunters pretty garbo compared to warlock.
Shaman
Priest: 6-for-1 or Die.
You don't include dr boom?
This was before Dr. Boom (and Goblins vs. Gnomes) was released.
Hair on point
Why are you not picking gold cards?
I want to play control warrior to but i only have Black Knight , The Beast, that 1/1 squirl guy and every nax legendary :/
Not going to happen then :)
You need every card Trump shows here, except for Harrison Jones.
Simply impossible without Garrosh, you could manage with what you've got + Garrosh but without him, no chance.
Why does he not go with any gold cards?
He doesn't use gold card unless he has all of them in the deck
01:59
Guys the meta is about to change next month, with new 120 new cards lets just say good bye to nexx cards
The meta game is so screwed right now.
Yesterday I played against a half zoo half hand warlock.
He zooed me in the early game. Then I gained control. Then Molten Molten Sunfury.
Goodbye Jaina
Why no zerkers?
Why no gorehowl???
Gore howl is for minions and bgh is better for that
Because it belongs in a museum!
Tons of people in my meta are running Harrison.
Why does he never use golds?
How does Trump record his win rates in ranked and in arena? I would like to keep track of my win rates as well.
Pretty sure it's just excel
There is a website.
I hate priest. Lost to my own fucking ragnaros.
why does trump never use gold cards?
Think blizzard should make so you only can have 1-2 legi cards in the deck...
Last game: Fahrenheit 9
Trump 11
we all know what that means
07:34
Trump please do more contructed videos
OMG, you put cairne in the warrior deck... so insensitive.
yea good video
How does Trump not have the golden card backs? With how often he plays, I figured if anyone, he would have some.
Het Guys can you help me i play hearthstone alot but not pay for it but the problem when i see trump playing al Those legendarys i want te same to but i only have 1!! Except from naxrammes i am bad in arena but watch all i drafts so becoming slowly better i never reached hihger then 5 but now i do daily quests to unlock naxrammes. But pleas Some tips how i can get Those cool cards like Harrison Jones en ysera??? :(
you have to buy a lot of Cards.
Pick a good starting class, play every day, complete every quest for gold, play arena with the gold (never buy a deck), turn every card you don't need into dust. You'll get there eventually! If you want to shortcut, then pay real money.
Either you shell out lots of money to get the cards or get extra cards to turn into dust and craft them, or you play lots and lots of games and save up coins and buy card packs that way.
dont worry about it there are a lot of viable decks without a fuck ton of legendarys im in the same boat as you just a little further ahead I turn every card from mage hunter and druid into dust re roll all quests that are 40 in hope of getting higher rewards, playing worse decks can teach you a lot to get better oh and never buy packs with coins always go arena
Get good at arena and do your daily quests.
trump do you have a new haircut man? :O
Trump should either stick to Arena and not bother with Constructed or play _a lot_ more Constructed in order to not be this bad.
Wait Frothing Beserker is not even a considered card in Pay2Warrior anymore?
Damn i havent played this game in a long time. I am the old man sitting on the bench "Back in my day...!"
Its the meta. FB just seems die before it can do anything. Its used in charged warrior. Just it has no room in control warrior. Rather have AoP or Death bites in my control deck.
Trump play more control warrior its my favorite class and i'd love to see more :) ty
I am so sad i disinchunted gore houl
why?
shuvo rahman *disenchanted Gorehowl*
Also, that was a foolish move to do, this coming from a player that barely touch warrior at all.
I was doing bad in rank so i was in a rush to make a zoo deck
will i had a good reason i was making a zoo deck but now i miss it
More Handlock please
handlock isnt very strong in the meta with all the hunters
Blob Dat
There aren't very many hunters any more... that's the reason he stopped playing Priest.
there are still a lot of hunters just not as many. also it doesnt stop the combo from being OP
14:46
nice Video