True. Tatas are the most unreliable cars in india however their main indian competitors mahindra makes one of the most reliable cars in the country competing with Toyota. Tata should start working on reliability, they can't just ignore it.
I think when Tata launched their vehicles here in Australia they wanted to Target the rural and farmer customer base but they failed to realise that the rural and the farmers in Australia are pretty rich they are not the same as the rural people or the farmers in India who are looking for bargains
I lived for many years in rural Australia 30 kilometres east of Coonabarabran surrounded by cattle and sheep farmers... I literally had cows at my fence and I worked for farmers and I can tell you that while they owned multimillion dollar properties they were very cheap people... one guy who had a tennis court, swimming pool and thousand of acres accidentally illegally put tax free diesel (meant for his farming machinery) in his new Commodore... I only found out because his conked out in front of my house... that shows how cheap a lot of farmers are... so let's not romanticise farmers 🤦
I can tell you for a fact (my extended family are farmers) that most rural farmers are not rich. Some might be relatively well off (as in, middle class), but a lot have a ton of debt - especially if they've always got new and expensive toys. As for the rest, they are cheap. They might buy expensive farm equipment or a proper 4x4, but that's out of necessity. They will try to use things for as long as possible and when it brakes, they'll keep on using it and either repair it or just make do. Most farmers are typically frugal people, because being frugal as a farmer is incredibly important.
Tata has been a disaster in South Africa as well, and I'm sure for the same reasons as experienced in Australia. Tata now only offers commercial trucks here. Similarly (in the UTE and SUV sector in SA), brand leaders like Toyota, Ford, followed by VW and Isuzu have captured the market....however, Chinese brands from GWM are making significant inroads now.
Proud owner of a first generation Tata Telcoline tray top. Never purchased but was given to me by my neighbour who purchased it a a local field day for 4k, fitted with air, alloy bull bar and alloy tray which we supplied by a Queensland company called Bocar. Company no longer exists but tracked down previous director who, apart from giving me 3 tons of spare Tata parts ( they were the Australian importers), he clearly stated that importing Tatas was the worse business decision he ever made as his businesd entered bankruptcy 12 later! Driveline consists of front disks rear drums from Mazda, calipers spied by Bendix. Tailshaft from factory by centre support bearing and uni joints from Hardi Spicer. Rear diff with Detroit Locker and drums supplied by Dana. (super heavy duty). Engine is normally aspirated slant 4 diesel supplied by Renault. Super gutless, doesn't like to rev, overheats at standstill, gulps fuel, leaks all fluids. 5 speed gearbox is supplied Mercedes Benz. Linkages wear and you lose gears, shifter falls out of socket as it premitually wears. Mine has surprisingly icy cold aircon that will cause overheating if not moving and drains what little horsepower is available. Interior is an adjustable bench seat, non adjustable steering column, simple dash with gauges from an Italian supplier. Fun fact : Tata gauges are also found in Lamborghinis of the same era! Rubber on the floors, glove box than opens over every bump, wi d down windows that continuously jamb and you must slam the sagging doors to lock them. Surprisingly all the internal and external plastics are solid and in one piece. Apart from the few chatacteristical faults it's a great Ute. Just don't expect cruising speeds above 80 km/h as it just runs out of puff and overheats. Fun fact : I have the only first generation Tata Telcoline registered in South Australia AND Australia! 👍👍😁🇭🇲 9:37
That was a interesting read. Thanks for typing all that. Nice to know even then tata used good suppliers but somehow assembled them all to perform at their worst.
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To be fair, they weren't quite the household name you think they were in India either, at least not until 2019-ish when they worked on their design and safety game and spent quite a bit on marketing. They still aren't exactly known for being particularly reliable or efficient.
With IT skills India has they couldn't build their own social media platforms or AI engine. Forget about cars. They don't possess that thing required for innovation.
Sure. And Australia has a thriving auto manufacturing industry. If you judge a country by the ability to build social media/ AI platforms then you are absolutely right.. India is bad. But if you judge a country by having its own auto manufacturing industry, space and military technology that is one of the top in world, and a thriving growing economy you unfortunately are dead wrong. Please stop living under the rock. Just my 2 cents. No offence
@@naazgulla No offense but reality is different. We judge economies with per capita GDP. How well a common man is doing. It's important for a common man to live better in Australia. And for that if we have to sacrifice our space and military budget so be it. India is a country of immense poverty that can't help itself. Why? It's a question for Indians not us. No offense
@@naazgullabeen to India, it’s less than a third world country. They should travel more. India may have 100 million smart people, rest live in poverty and even that 100 million are desperate to get out…
tata even sucks in india, but the crazy thing is people loved the chairman Late Sir Ratan Tata he was the guy who thought about the common people .... but i dont knows whats with their car
In 2000 I bought a new courier tray back Ute for under 20k so I wouldn't have even bothered to look at an unknown brand for similar money. If they want to play here they need an excellent value proposition like the Chinese brands do if they are serious. Underwhelming products need an extra cheap price if they are to have any hope.
I don’t have a TATA but I do own one of the other Utes from the leprosy colony. That being a Foton Tunland. It’s been a pretty good Ute. Still runs clean and strong with over 200k on the clock. I hear snippets of Foton making a return. They do put together some solid reliable vehicles. I am not sure if it is really confirmed as no Australian journalists have been interested. I think they have a chance of selling a few as they are good looking and a bit bigger than average. 48v Bosch mild hybrid as well.
I prefer a manual too but as a work vehicle manuals limit who can drive them because many drivers actually never learned to drive a manual. I find that depressing too.
Tata sucks in india, no hope overseas. I own TATA HARRIER and it was my biggest mistake, poor quality, poor after sales service, expensive parts and much more.
I had a 2016 Tata xenon with 60,000kms. the gearbox was full of metal shavings, ball joints were giving way, the timing belt needed to be done every 70,00kms, and parts couldn't be found. I should have looked at the minor red flags that showed this car was designed poorly. Namely, the rear speakers closed against the back seat, so they became ineffective. Also, the wiring was backwards, and after service was horrid, anything imported by someone and not bought in Australia by the manufacturer kinda has this issue. I had issues with the wipers not working because the wiring harness was rubbing against metal and arcing out. oh, and the seats were as comfortable as sitting on a hard cement floor with no support. i enjoyed owing a Proton Jumbuck more then this!
Engine Reliability is a issue with Tata as the 2 Liter Multijet turbo Diesel engine in the Harrier and Safari face huge Reliability issues which the Jeep Compass and MG Hector with the same engine don't face. Also Tata mainly uses 3 Cylinder engines except Harrier and Safari and this is a huge cost cutting.
The majority of Australian buyers of 4 door ute want the ability to cosplay rugged outdoorsmen when. I have observed one of my neighbours spend large amounts of money buying and outfitting (I gave him a set of bog mats and assorted camping gear) a 4 door ute that gets driven around town and has never been off-roading or used for camping
I am involved in vehicle transport logistics and we had the contract for Tata on there 2nd attempt. Dear God what absolute steaming turds it says a lot that at the same time we had the great wall contract for the previous generation v240 etcetera and compared to the Tata they were way ahead. We also had Foton tunland at the time and they left the tartar in the dust but they also soon disappeared.
Too expensive. The Telcoline was actually more expensive than secondary pick ups like Mitsubishi Triton and Nissan Navara, which you could pick up for less than $20k driveaway at the time. It was only $500 less than a Hilux.
@@RyanSummer-o2dChery's overall performance and reliability are better than GWM. BYD's garbage cars are not qualified to be compared with Chery and GWM.
@ Chery is excelling in Latin America and southeast Aisa. Their product lineup is something wrong in AU market and they really need to up their game when BYD is crushing the market and GWM is focusing on Ute
@AbhilashKariyanna sidha sidha bolna Sambhal nahin Paya main bhi Tata ka gadi salon se chala raha hun Hexa ki gadi ab tak kharab nahin hua Hai bada hai mujhe tere ko Tere baten dekhkar pata chale tumne kabhi experience nahin kiya
Here's why Tata and all failing brands fail in Australia: 1. not taking the task seriously. you need a shit load of dealers AND spare parts. 2. priced too high vs the product's actual and perceived value. if you believe in your product, you need to enter the market very cheap (priced at only 50 -60 % of the nearest competitor), and accept severe financial losses for the first 3-5 years, to build an enthusiastic - if small, fan base. these initial users will be your advocates. they will coerce their family and friends into also trying out the product. 3. related to 2 - not having a long-term plan. this affects the american and the french vehicles especially. each has always had limp and lazy "support" in australia. poor pricing, terrible parts support, bugger all dealers, terrible customer support (the default position is to deny all warranty - piss off).
The value for money is phenomenal but the quality leaves a lot to be desired for. If i want something fixed, i want it fixed. I don't want to go back to the service centre after a few years.😅 But but but, the newer Tatas are incredibly amazing. No complaints there.
There are three companies under Tata Motors there is tata themselves then there is Land Rover and Jaguar all of them are shit. And unfortunately somehow my father had bought at different times three different Tata cars all of them were shit
Tata is still far behind on sorted tech and reliability of their cars, Mahindra is at least a generation ahead of Tata in terms of engineering and quality. Tata doesn’t stand a chance in a market like Australia
TATA cars have strong body and..... that's about it. In other areas, they lack reliability, their engine are not as refine as other competitors, their designs have improved over the years but still missing the finishing touch.. and there is the whole issue of after-sale service even in India. My patriotic Indians love it, but to be honest, Tata still need to do a lot more to be competitive in international markets.
Frankly its not bad. First ev i drove for bit long in barath is tata ev, before thata did drive mg zs ev etc etc for short, so some soft corner for it, waiting to compare harrier EV AWD with legend Mahindra BE 6 ev, pack three RWD.
@@burnttoast9890 Yeah, right. Do you have another conspiracy theory for us today? FWIW, I'd love to purchase the Mahindra Thar Roxx ... if Mahindra offered it in Oz. The reference to the 1 star rating of the Scorpio was because of the argument in the video that vehicles with such a rating will fail to reach significant sales - which is exactly what happened with the Scorpio.
our own Bharatiya market is so gigantic that we dont fully can focus on foreign market, unlike in east whether they are small country or aging population so they need foreign markets, also unlike lets say china or even US thinking to close their market for byd, we are an open market so foreign players from west to east come to compete, and our makers firstly highly consider our own gigantic market which is cost conscious granted they are increasing their budget, but all this combine make it hard for our brands to go truly global, but the upcoming Mahindra EVs BE 6 and XEV 9e and upcoming others, are thinking to be global hopefully, but im happy that our two wheelers are very successful they even some years back removed all chinese brands from africa by just competing, and even in regions like SE asia, turkiye and others our bikes gets sold
Not match but it's about 60% of Chinese company it's growing faster soon tata avinya cars will rule as it have world class features and quality Hope In coming years tata will show its arrival to global brands
@ buddy, it’s very simple, you got money , buy yourself a Lamborghini, if you don’t , buy Chinese cars. Why? More than 200 Chinese companies are on the Fortune 500 list, how many Indian or Australian companies are on it? Follow the smart money, don’t be dumb money
, Now we have flood with Indian here Australia , Tata will make another attempt , but it will be interesting if the Indians in Australia will buy them ! ?
The TATA utes I’ve had experience with had gearbox problems, engine problems and bad build quality. One of the cheapest ute on the market. And still not worth the money.
Tata is best safari best , Tata all cars 5 star ⭐️ safety rating , nothing is tough they re enter a lot of people waiting mahindra electric car and Tata safari
Tata might suck🤭, but comparatively… JLR sucks even worse!😂 Small, cheap, reliable, quirky vehicles are the new flavour. Consumers don’t rate ADAS in their top decisions for buying a vehicle, nor connected-drive software, or emergency telematics (our phones do this now, in any vehicle). People want the option of fun, cheap, reliable and relatively safe vehicles that are proportional to their cost!, not all the extra nonsense ANCAP keep basing “their” safety ratings off of… that add to extra cost. Watch this space.
The engines are junk and unreliable. Good luck LR, Ford Ranger and 2025 VW Amarok with Tata V6 engines. That engine suffers from catastrophic failures due to poor design and oil starved lubrication of the main and conrod bearings.
Oi! Malaysian here. Please don’t dragged us in this arguments of yours we are not interested in. By the way since Geely took over just a decade ago we are doing quite well thank you:)
You are kidding yourself if you think we trust what car reviewers have to say. Opinions are like arseholes- we have all got one. Have you seen the debate in England between Jayem and Johnny Smith about paid reviews. Not too different from your pushing of the Chery Tigo thing. I wonder how long they will be around this time . They failed here over the ditch first time round and I haven’t seen them back. It’s obviously a very small market here and while it looks like good value it faces strong competition because NZ seems to get nearly the same number of makers as Australia.
Completely different vehicles this time round. I understand your point. But they’ve come a long way with their products this time. The tigos for their price are great drives
Stop using pharmacy made in india and iphones (1 of 3 are made in india) stop using petrochemicals stop working at TCS Stop wearing LW Peter England jewellery ford engines u are using softwares are made by Indian companies Don't spread hate
TATA own Jaguar and Land Rover. Does that mean that JLR cars now have TATA build quality and engineering or that TATA are going to improve to JLR standards? It really is difficult to say what's what with recent JLR vehicles.
Your mum has been already given the birth of the state shutdown today to making a fun on Indians the actually doing their own best the not like you to selling their notes nudes for their living
Tata isn't really well known for reliability and good servicing in their home country too
True. Customer service is shit.
Exactly,
They are known for taking our jobs for lesser bid. That's the only thing they are good at. Our Telco jobs are gone where? You know now!
@@Gladiatorking7have u own
True. Tatas are the most unreliable cars in india however their main indian competitors mahindra makes one of the most reliable cars in the country competing with Toyota. Tata should start working on reliability, they can't just ignore it.
I think when Tata launched their vehicles here in Australia they wanted to Target the rural and farmer customer base but they failed to realise that the rural and the farmers in Australia are pretty rich they are not the same as the rural people or the farmers in India who are looking for bargains
The Australian farmers want reliability over cheap garbage.
They don't want a paj££t car first of all..@@oldtimers6460
I lived for many years in rural Australia 30 kilometres east of Coonabarabran surrounded by cattle and sheep farmers... I literally had cows at my fence and I worked for farmers and I can tell you that while they owned multimillion dollar properties they were very cheap people... one guy who had a tennis court, swimming pool and thousand of acres accidentally illegally put tax free diesel (meant for his farming machinery) in his new Commodore... I only found out because his conked out in front of my house... that shows how cheap a lot of farmers are... so let's not romanticise farmers 🤦
I can tell you for a fact (my extended family are farmers) that most rural farmers are not rich. Some might be relatively well off (as in, middle class), but a lot have a ton of debt - especially if they've always got new and expensive toys. As for the rest, they are cheap. They might buy expensive farm equipment or a proper 4x4, but that's out of necessity. They will try to use things for as long as possible and when it brakes, they'll keep on using it and either repair it or just make do. Most farmers are typically frugal people, because being frugal as a farmer is incredibly important.
@@tamborineman0000 you say all that like you're trying to make them sound bad. 🤦♂
Tata does not meet International Standards, As an Indian I feel Indians feel too proud, but in reality its no where close to being a top manufacturer.
Actually it's meet but the dog like u don't know about it
Bhakts truth hurts @@LODOMARNDI-o4u
@@hasnat9545bhok beta main hu yaha
Tata has been a disaster in South Africa as well, and I'm sure for the same reasons as experienced in Australia. Tata now only offers commercial trucks here.
Similarly (in the UTE and SUV sector in SA), brand leaders like Toyota, Ford, followed by VW and Isuzu have captured the market....however, Chinese brands from GWM are making significant inroads now.
Tata won’t be able to compete with GWM, BYD and Mahindra here in Aus
Mahindra? Never seen on the roads here mate.
@@xamashee I'm in Brisbane & I have been seeing Mahindra SUV models every day. In the last 4-5 mths i see more & more.
@@retroman71😂
@@retroman71 I second this
Have you on Tata motors us all
Proud owner of a first generation Tata Telcoline tray top. Never purchased but was given to me by my neighbour who purchased it a a local field day for 4k, fitted with air, alloy bull bar and alloy tray which we supplied by a Queensland company called Bocar. Company no longer exists but tracked down previous director who, apart from giving me 3 tons of spare Tata parts ( they were the Australian importers), he clearly stated that importing Tatas was the worse business decision he ever made as his businesd entered bankruptcy 12 later! Driveline consists of front disks rear drums from Mazda, calipers spied by Bendix. Tailshaft from factory by centre support bearing and uni joints from Hardi Spicer. Rear diff with Detroit Locker and drums supplied by Dana. (super heavy duty). Engine is normally aspirated slant 4 diesel supplied by Renault. Super gutless, doesn't like to rev, overheats at standstill, gulps fuel, leaks all fluids. 5 speed gearbox is supplied Mercedes Benz. Linkages wear and you lose gears, shifter falls out of socket as it premitually wears. Mine has surprisingly icy cold aircon that will cause overheating if not moving and drains what little horsepower is available. Interior is an adjustable bench seat, non adjustable steering column, simple dash with gauges from an Italian supplier. Fun fact : Tata gauges are also found in Lamborghinis of the same era! Rubber on the floors, glove box than opens over every bump, wi d down windows that continuously jamb and you must slam the sagging doors to lock them. Surprisingly all the internal and external plastics are solid and in one piece. Apart from the few chatacteristical faults it's a great Ute. Just don't expect cruising speeds above 80 km/h as it just runs out of puff and overheats. Fun fact : I have the only first generation Tata Telcoline registered in South Australia AND Australia! 👍👍😁🇭🇲 9:37
That was a interesting read. Thanks for typing all that. Nice to know even then tata used good suppliers but somehow assembled them all to perform at their worst.
To be fair, they weren't quite the household name you think they were in India either, at least not until 2019-ish when they worked on their design and safety game and spent quite a bit on marketing. They still aren't exactly known for being particularly reliable or efficient.
Tata sucks globally
Brought your literally using the Tata product as the raw material and by the way your mum has literally given as such child just like you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Interesting what happening to Jag under Tata control
Heck Tata has owned Jaguar for 17 years now. Land Rover side of the group is doing ok.
Seems these jag and Range Rover have better quality that tata. lol
I think u have never seen really jag
But frankly TATA doesnt intervein in decision making of those brands, they let them cook
With IT skills India has they couldn't build their own social media platforms or AI engine. Forget about cars. They don't possess that thing required for innovation.
Sure. And Australia has a thriving auto manufacturing industry. If you judge a country by the ability to build social media/ AI platforms then you are absolutely right.. India is bad. But if you judge a country by having its own auto manufacturing industry, space and military technology that is one of the top in world, and a thriving growing economy you unfortunately are dead wrong. Please stop living under the rock. Just my 2 cents. No offence
@@naazgulla No offense but reality is different. We judge economies with per capita GDP. How well a common man is doing. It's important for a common man to live better in Australia. And for that if we have to sacrifice our space and military budget so be it. India is a country of immense poverty that can't help itself. Why? It's a question for Indians not us. No offense
@@naazgullabeen to India, it’s less than a third world country. They should travel more. India may have 100 million smart people, rest live in poverty and even that 100 million are desperate to get out…
@@RyanSummer-o2d.....wealth disparity is very much..no doubt..but a middle class Indian family has more wealth than middle class in australia.....🎉
@ lol you mean the middle class that’s applying Australian visas as we speak?
tata even sucks in india, but the crazy thing is people loved the chairman Late Sir Ratan Tata he was the guy who thought about the common people .... but i dont knows whats with their car
I think u fog have never own the car
India is not known quality anything!
Some of their food products are OK
And australian having nothing except barking dog attitude
@@copaloadofthis but better ur fake food and personality
Tata having the many thing about the quality but I so like you who have never seen the Tata at all their entire life they just barking like here
@@OggMarndi .... Woof-Woof !
In 2000 I bought a new courier tray back Ute for under 20k so I wouldn't have even bothered to look at an unknown brand for similar money.
If they want to play here they need an excellent value proposition like the Chinese brands do if they are serious. Underwhelming products need an extra cheap price if they are to have any hope.
I don’t have a TATA but I do own one of the other Utes from the leprosy colony. That being a Foton Tunland. It’s been a pretty good Ute. Still runs clean and strong with over 200k on the clock. I hear snippets of Foton making a return. They do put together some solid reliable vehicles. I am not sure if it is really confirmed as no Australian journalists have been interested.
I think they have a chance of selling a few as they are good looking and a bit bigger than average. 48v Bosch mild hybrid as well.
I prefer a manual too but as a work vehicle manuals limit who can drive them because many drivers actually never learned to drive a manual. I find that depressing too.
Tata Sucks In India as well So NO surprise at all. Their reliability is bad and Electronics are quiet faulty. Service is also inconsistent and bad.
But now that they have in from their service and everything I think your dog have never read about it😂😂😂😂
with the onslaught of chinese brands to the shore this year alone.. Tata certainly not in a great position to re-enter
I still have the Tata still running out here at broken Hill Xenon good price and does the job.
First generation Tata UTE company had two,, gear stick Fellout at first traffic lights absolute gutless heaps of crap .. so back to the ToJo we go 😂
Worst looking ute . Wouldn’t have helped
Tata sucks in india, no hope overseas. I own TATA HARRIER and it was my biggest mistake, poor quality, poor after sales service, expensive parts and much more.
I had a 2016 Tata xenon with 60,000kms. the gearbox was full of metal shavings, ball joints were giving way, the timing belt needed to be done every 70,00kms, and parts couldn't be found. I should have looked at the minor red flags that showed this car was designed poorly. Namely, the rear speakers closed against the back seat, so they became ineffective. Also, the wiring was backwards, and after service was horrid, anything imported by someone and not bought in Australia by the manufacturer kinda has this issue. I had issues with the wipers not working because the wiring harness was rubbing against metal and arcing out. oh, and the seats were as comfortable as sitting on a hard cement floor with no support. i enjoyed owing a Proton Jumbuck more then this!
Then there was the Lada Niva. I really wished that thing was as good as it looked. Simple, Go anywhere, Cheap. Two strikes and it was out too!
Ive only see like 3, and ive been to Sydney lots, and the ones ive seen were in my hometown (small country town), not popular at all!!!
I don't know why an abnormal amount of people keep begging UA-cam channels to review a Tata
They were struggling at home market when they entered Australia but they’re doing better now. Hope they might give it another try.
Engine Reliability is a issue with Tata as the 2 Liter Multijet turbo Diesel engine in the Harrier and Safari face huge Reliability issues which the Jeep Compass and MG Hector with the same engine don't face. Also Tata mainly uses 3 Cylinder engines except Harrier and Safari and this is a huge cost cutting.
The majority of Australian buyers of 4 door ute want the ability to cosplay rugged outdoorsmen when.
I have observed one of my neighbours spend large amounts of money buying and outfitting (I gave him a set of bog mats and assorted camping gear) a 4 door ute that gets driven around town and has never been off-roading or used for camping
Tata Motors never go all gun blazing in 1st try, that's one mistake they keep making everytime.
I am involved in vehicle transport logistics and we had the contract for Tata on there 2nd attempt.
Dear God what absolute steaming turds it says a lot that at the same time we had the great wall contract for the previous generation v240 etcetera and compared to the Tata they were way ahead.
We also had Foton tunland at the time and they left the tartar in the dust but they also soon disappeared.
Make a video on mahindra xev 9e and mahindra be 6 pls
Next Gen Nexon and Harrier will do well in Australia if launched again. The old models didn’t do well due to quality and stiff competition.
Too expensive.
The Telcoline was actually more expensive than secondary pick ups like Mitsubishi Triton and Nissan Navara, which you could pick up for less than $20k driveaway at the time. It was only $500 less than a Hilux.
As a Chinese, I own a GWM and will happily buy a BYD to just commute around in Australia. I don't see an Indian buying a TATA. that shows a thing.
Since you don't buy Chery cars, it's really too much 😂
@@kindness-villainanything bad about chery cars? Only heard they have been pretty good.
@@RyanSummer-o2dChery's overall performance and reliability are better than GWM. BYD's garbage cars are not qualified to be compared with Chery and GWM.
@ Chery is excelling in Latin America and southeast Aisa. Their product lineup is something wrong in AU market and they really need to up their game when BYD is crushing the market and GWM is focusing on Ute
@ really? Seen many happy byd owners.
Tata with reliability is big job
Kabhi chalaya chuti hai
@OggMarndi Tata ki har gadi chalaya hun aur 1 own bhi kar chuka hu
@OggMarndi Tata ki har gadi chalaya hun aur 1 own bhi kar chuka hu
@AbhilashKariyanna sidha sidha bolna Sambhal nahin Paya main bhi Tata ka gadi salon se chala raha hun Hexa ki gadi ab tak kharab nahin hua Hai bada hai mujhe tere ko Tere baten dekhkar pata chale tumne kabhi experience nahin kiya
Here's why Tata and all failing brands fail in Australia:
1. not taking the task seriously. you need a shit load of dealers AND spare parts.
2. priced too high vs the product's actual and perceived value. if you believe in your product, you need to enter the market very cheap (priced at only 50 -60 % of the nearest competitor), and accept severe financial losses for the first 3-5 years, to build an enthusiastic - if small, fan base. these initial users will be your advocates. they will coerce their family and friends into also trying out the product.
3. related to 2 - not having a long-term plan.
this affects the american and the french vehicles especially. each has always had limp and lazy "support" in australia. poor pricing, terrible parts support, bugger all dealers, terrible customer support (the default position is to deny all warranty - piss off).
The value for money is phenomenal but the quality leaves a lot to be desired for. If i want something fixed, i want it fixed. I don't want to go back to the service centre after a few years.😅
But but but, the newer Tatas are incredibly amazing. No complaints there.
There are three companies under Tata Motors there is tata themselves then there is Land Rover and Jaguar all of them are shit. And unfortunately somehow my father had bought at different times three different Tata cars all of them were shit
U don't have any tata car just barking like dog who have no idea about it
Tata is still far behind on sorted tech and reliability of their cars, Mahindra is at least a generation ahead of Tata in terms of engineering and quality. Tata doesn’t stand a chance in a market like Australia
TATA cars have strong body and..... that's about it. In other areas, they lack reliability, their engine are not as refine as other competitors, their designs have improved over the years but still missing the finishing touch.. and there is the whole issue of after-sale service even in India. My patriotic Indians love it, but to be honest, Tata still need to do a lot more to be competitive in international markets.
Well they suck in India as well.
Pls review bharat auto expo and review about avinya subrand
In my view, Australians have European tastes, and want cars with Japanese quality and prices.
Frankly its not bad. First ev i drove for bit long in barath is tata ev, before thata did drive mg zs ev etc etc for short, so some soft corner for it, waiting to compare harrier EV AWD with legend Mahindra BE 6 ev, pack three RWD.
Mahindra Scorpio ... 1 star ...
That's because of lack of adas , it scored 5 stars with gncap
@@burnttoast9890 It's still a flop in Oz ...
@@klausschroiff4405 just say you don't like Mahindra as a company, don't need to justify your irrational hate.
@@burnttoast9890 Yeah, right. Do you have another conspiracy theory for us today? FWIW, I'd love to purchase the Mahindra Thar Roxx ... if Mahindra offered it in Oz.
The reference to the 1 star rating of the Scorpio was because of the argument in the video that vehicles with such a rating will fail to reach significant sales - which is exactly what happened with the Scorpio.
Why couldn't Ford and Holden make in Australia ? That's the real question.
our own Bharatiya market is so gigantic that we dont fully can focus on foreign market, unlike in east whether they are small country or aging population so they need foreign markets, also unlike lets say china or even US thinking to close their market for byd, we are an open market so foreign players from west to east come to compete, and our makers firstly highly consider our own gigantic market which is cost conscious granted they are increasing their budget, but all this combine make it hard for our brands to go truly global, but the upcoming Mahindra EVs BE 6 and XEV 9e and upcoming others, are thinking to be global hopefully, but im happy that our two wheelers are very successful they even some years back removed all chinese brands from africa by just competing, and even in regions like SE asia, turkiye and others our bikes gets sold
My Dad had a Tata here in Australia and has never missed a beat. Very reliable.
Can’t match Chinese cars… not even close
Really😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 your hi bro
@ buddy I run three dealerships … ain’t no way for me to deal with Indians
Not match but it's about 60% of Chinese company it's growing faster soon tata avinya cars will rule as it have world class features and quality
Hope In coming years tata will show its arrival to global brands
Is chinese car is reliable 🤣
@ buddy, it’s very simple, you got money , buy yourself a Lamborghini, if you don’t , buy Chinese cars. Why? More than 200 Chinese companies are on the Fortune 500 list, how many Indian or Australian companies are on it? Follow the smart money, don’t be dumb money
Tata = Bye Bye
Hahahaha
Which car brand the Australian have is that that popular in all around the world😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wait for Tata’s new model "Turut turut tut TaTa"
Tata now getting 5 star and 4 star rating
, Now we have flood with Indian here Australia , Tata will make another attempt , but it will be interesting if the Indians in Australia will buy them ! ?
Tata that time is way different from now
Why can't I watch this video at 1.25%
You are saving yourself a world of pain by not having TATA. Highly unreliable machines, their service is pathetic.
Tata is already in Australia. Land Rover and Jaguar !
Tata and Mahindra cars are not known for their reliability
Actually there but you don't know
Shonky, rude, obnoxious and annoying are some adjectives that spring to mind.
The TATA utes I’ve had experience with had gearbox problems, engine problems and bad build quality. One of the cheapest ute on the market. And still not worth the money.
I can bet you you have never on it you just barking like a dog look Tata having
Mahindra definitely paid this video
TATA don't even sell their car outside india and won't go global in coming years
review our new mahindra evs BE 6 and XEV 9e
Tata still can't make international cars, fit and finish is still poor. Engines are still not refined as compared to mahindra
Tata came long way since 1996
Tata Engine Noise is too much
What about Mahindra? aren't they from India with a fair? reputation.
Review the new xev 9e and be 6e
Tata is best safari best , Tata all cars 5 star ⭐️ safety rating , nothing is tough they re enter a lot of people waiting mahindra electric car and Tata safari
Tata might suck🤭, but comparatively… JLR sucks even worse!😂
Small, cheap, reliable, quirky vehicles are the new flavour. Consumers don’t rate ADAS in their top decisions for buying a vehicle, nor connected-drive software, or emergency telematics (our phones do this now, in any vehicle).
People want the option of fun, cheap, reliable and relatively safe vehicles that are proportional to their cost!, not all the extra nonsense ANCAP keep basing “their” safety ratings off of… that add to extra cost.
Watch this space.
tata is known only for economy in nepal
there are many reasons to dislike tata
No wonder Jaguar and Land Rover also suck.
Better don't buy indian cars .
Anything from India sucks. When was the last time India was known for quality and reliability? Never.
This platform ceo is itself indian
Tata went Tata 😊 !
Good company bad dealers especially in India
review mahindra roxx
The engines are junk and unreliable. Good luck LR, Ford Ranger and 2025 VW Amarok with Tata V6 engines. That engine suffers from catastrophic failures due to poor design and oil starved lubrication of the main and conrod bearings.
I wonder if you will do Proton lol
Oi! Malaysian here. Please don’t dragged us in this arguments of yours we are not interested in. By the way since Geely took over just a decade ago we are doing quite well thank you:)
@@Thinkofwhat I liked proton. Really liked the proton preve and the S16 :) and others good cars.
@@timfordfalconxf7714 good on ya:)
@@Thinkofwhat :) sorry if before i made you think i hate proton. they where/are good little cars :)
Harrier tata 🥵
You are kidding yourself if you think we trust what car reviewers have to say. Opinions are like arseholes- we have all got one.
Have you seen the debate in England between Jayem and Johnny Smith about paid reviews. Not too different from your pushing of the Chery Tigo thing. I wonder how long they will be around this time . They failed here over the ditch first time round and I haven’t seen them back. It’s obviously a very small market here and while it looks like good value it faces strong competition because NZ seems to get nearly the same number of makers as Australia.
Completely different vehicles this time round. I understand your point. But they’ve come a long way with their products this time. The tigos for their price are great drives
Tata (Bye Bye)
review our force gurkha
Why you bastard need a western validation
Made in India😂😂😂😂
What the made in Australia is good for😂😂😂😂 first watch yourself then bark
Stop using pharmacy made in india and iphones (1 of 3 are made in india) stop using petrochemicals stop working at TCS Stop wearing LW Peter England jewellery ford engines u are using softwares are made by Indian companies
Don't spread hate
@Ansman94 I don't use anything from India due to the extreme low quality.
@crazyjohnhoward how are you mum has given you birth you are the much more lower quality than the Indian products
Not as good as Australian made cars !
Can u review the Mahindra BE 6e and the XEV 9e
The new Tata Sierra looks just amazing 🧡
Bot??
Bro know how to get views
Tata is junk
1:13 Are you sure about that??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love TATA cars no matter how negative youtubers are
tata sucks everywhere
Review new mahindra electric car , they are very cool models ❤
TATA own Jaguar and Land Rover.
Does that mean that JLR cars now have TATA build quality and engineering or that TATA are going to improve to JLR standards?
It really is difficult to say what's what with recent JLR vehicles.
Because they’re rubbish
Tata sucks everywhere. Go for mahindra 😅
Your videos are always a delight. Thank you for your skill and creativity.🚴❤️🔥
For slamming the Indian car companies for the views nice😂😂😂😂😂
TATA 🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤💗💯🇮🇳
I wouldn't drive or let anyone i loved driving this car.
Tata and mahindra is shit
Your mum has been already given the birth of the state shutdown today to making a fun on Indians the actually doing their own best the not like you to selling their notes nudes for their living
😂😂😂
Then name one of your car company
Get away from mirror mate