In defense of Prado: Plasticy interiors, the same can be said about Everest. Regarding the light wheel, switching to sport mode makes the wheel heavier and the engine more responsive. Stability, Prado is an AWD vehicle which has superb traction system while Ford are known for unreliable traction. Offroad, the Prado is much more comfortable at speeds below 80km/h. Ground clearance, shorter wheelbase provides better turn radius. The rear seats are tighter, but the mid seats have their own AC independent of the front.
I traded my 2021 150 Prado Kakadu for a 2023 Everest Sport. I know I’m not comparing it to the 250 but the Everest is miles ahead in every way. I actually look forward to driving the Everest and couldn’t say the same the Prado. The Prado gets you from A to B comfortably and reliably but that’s about it…
Purchased the V6 Platinum in Oct 24. Very impressed with what I have. Completed some off road adventures even getting the recovery gear out to free my self and loving every bit. One of the biggest plus's was being able to separate my two youngest boys in different rows of seats. Peace.
Weve had our Everest sport V6 of course, for just over a year now. We still love driving it around town, and towing our camper trailer is absolutely effortless and comfortable.
I was so excited for the Prado launch as a Toyota fan, but have felt very disappointed. I am glad someone is calling out the 230mm raised boot and flimsy box for what it is. There is no other manufacturer doing something close to that subpar. The least they could do is offer all models in 5-seats. It’s no wonder there are dealers with stock in the yards.
15 years to design the 250 series Prado and yet the dodgy boot and battery set-up chucked in with no thought! No power increase over 150 series and it’s heavier! Only one wireless charge pad…
Problem is that you average Aussie just looks at the badge and thats why Prado is sold out for 2 years here (apparently there is a cost of living crisis lol) … not the brightest bunch
For anyone that knows vehicles Toyota, isuzu over any other make anyday for these kind of cars mate and toyota over isuzu just because toyota makes their own components
@@Hector-tc8uw Not the case anymore, and hasn't been for at least the last 5 years. Not everything is about reliability and resale value alone... Although they are of course important, Toyota is starting to fail with reliability and that will eventually impact resale. Other brands are fast catching up and even overtaking Toyota.... All good things must come to an end eventually.
Also not covered in this review is the servicing costs? Toyota Prado 250 are 6 monthly intervals where the Ford Everest is 12 monthly, making the Prado twice as expensive to maintain !!
Totally agree with your assessment - it is amazing that Toyota has botched this model so badly given they've had 15 years to get it right. Laughed when you recommended the 150 over the 250 as I have had two 150s a 2009 and the most recent being a MY20 model and I just can't see a single part of the 250 that is better than the 150. The Everest is on my shopping list as a replacement which means I will abandon Toyota after 15 years. Little things like a towbar and quality redarc brake controller as standard on the Ford as well as the plethora of towing aids says to me that Ford has listened to their customers whereas Toyota is now coming across as a arrogant over priced product trading on past glory - bye bye Toyota.
Hard to believe how far Toyota has fallen behind. But looking at these two side by side, the one thing stands out - the BYD Bao/Leopard 5 will eat these two alive when it enters the Australian market this year. 500kw, 750nm, 100+ km on EV, essentially free km for those 35% of Aussie homes with solar. And looking at owner videos, just as impressive off road capabilities… even the GWM Tank 500 PHEV coming our way will eat these two for breakfast… The Chinese certainly are coming, and the legacy brands just let them with their lack of innovation and ambition.
The only problem is when they tow that Hybrid 100km will be down to 20km and then your on petrol Plus they are way to heavy for off-roading Too complicated to modify maybe they will be good for the school run
Great video .loads of information, and I agree 100% what you said about the 250 prado.. I was too sold on the new prado look when it came out, and made a booking in 2023 itself.. When it launched, I did a test drive, and man, what a disaster...!!! My major grips were: 1. Of course, the boot space and design, less say the better.. ! 2. It drives like a grand dad, not enough power in the mid range, steering is too light without any feedback, i had to clutch on to steering wheel for it to not wander around.. 3. Cramped second row design , and not adjustable despite being a big car.. 4. Dash design for GXL/ GX: Really toyota? A single dial speedo meter on the dash with bar graph displays and vacant spaces on an 87K on-road cost vehicle? At the very least, you could have incorporated an analog meter to make it look nice.. It just meant you just don't f*cking care about the customers..!!! And, the list goes on.. I cancelled my booking and got my deposit back.. An advice to toyota... when you try to rip off customers, do it discreetly and delicately, but not as a day light robbery like prado..
You just upset all the Toyota fan boys. Aussie bogans won’t be able to comprehend what you have just explained 😂 so the only category the Prado won was the subjective one of looks 😂. Awesome review. Nice and honest.
@ mate Australia is the capital of cashed up bogans with zero class 😂 boganism isn’t just related to cash flow. It’s a general lack of class and intelligence.
Great honest review. Toyota is taking the piss with this prado. Although the articulation is amazing. Ford is great. Can’t believe it. I’ve been a toyota man my whole life.
Interesting to note that the South African spec Prado does NOT have the 48v nonsense and consequently the boot is as roomy as the 150 with 3 rd row seats flush to the floor!
The idea that Toyota is top engineering has always been more spin than fact. As the owner of a 2004 Prodo, was it good enough all the external paint fell off (this happened to all Toyota models all over the world painted in 'pearl white'), the dash developed extensive cracking, the air-conditioner condenser in the cab leaked (requiring the whole dash to be pulled out to fixed. The front wheel bearing assemblies only lasted 100K ..... I could go on. They have NEVER been the standard that many people think.
@@markrichards5882 What has now being 25 years old got to do with sheets of paint falling off about year 5, and the dash cracking about the same time, and the air conditioner condenser also failing then. The ONLY reason it is still going is because I'm a motor-mechanic and its cost effective for me to do the repairs, even the repainting of the thing. It would have long ago been in the dump if the average person owned it. P.S. My 1996 Commodore which sits in the sun permanently still has original decent paint and the dash is perfect.
I'm a life long Toyota owner and really wanted to love the Prado but I ended up buying an Everest & I got a top of the range Everest for way less money than the roughly equivalent Altitude. The Prado also has too many compromises. Sad really. Mind you I won't own the Everest longer that the warranty!
@@Deatomizerbruh everest are unreliable peices of shit, not that I’m a fan of Toyotas either but fords have been the laughing stock in workshops for the past 10years
Here in the UK the Land Cruiser doesn't have the hybrid bollocks just the engine. We don't lose boot space and Id argue although it's not a smooth donkey, it actually make the vehicle better for it. Simpler. More reliable. Lighter.
I'll take the Ford any day. People have figured out that the Ford transmission works well after a good warmup, and it's more refined overall. Prado is just Toyota being lazy. GX is a different story though.
Everest Tremor? Yes please :) My 2017 Everest has 170k on the OD and still feels new. There are no creaks or issues and has been all around Aus pulling a trailer on family holiday outings. If Ford brings out an Everest Raptor or Tremor I'll be seriously considering an upgrade :)
ReDriven Mechanical expert Jim has noted that the Toyota 2.8 Turbo Diesel received extensive upgrades from 2020 … this includes the EGR and timing chain. There is a lot of evidence that this is one of the most reliable engines in a vehicle today if maintained correctly … shame about the rest of the vehicles issues and Hybrid afterthought - the Ford appears to be the better value, performance, practicality and handling option! Well done to Ford and a thank you to Ford for supporting Australian Mechanical Engineers in developing the Ranger and Everest here.
I have a 2021 Prado Kakadu. I was really looking forward to the 250, however when I took the Kakadu for a test drive I was very disappointed. No KDSS, no rear airbag suspension, no shift paddles and a terrible boot space. The spec level on lower trims has been stepped up and the Kakadu level is no longer a big difference, it is now just a VX with a bigger sunroof. Without the KDSS it also handles worse than my 150. The KDSS really cures all the Prado's high-speed handling issues and should be on the 250, the Lexus GX has it. I am going to hold off for 2026 and hope Toyota comes to their senses and makes some changes.
Ford’s in-house transmission issues are concerning, with some models prone to failure. Additionally, certain engines use a rubber timing belt inside the oil, which can degrade over time, shedding rubber that blocks oil passages. Definitely worth double-checking before buying.
Good advice and on the Toyotas replace the air box if you go on dirt roads and replace the oil from 0-30 to at least 10-30 unless you want the main bearings to crap out although that will void your warranty and use more fuel.
Ford has a 10 speed auto gearbox vs Toyota's 8 speed. Two more gears can be all the difference for extracting the most out of the engine. One point in favour for Ford. However Toyota has a larger fuel tank. (110L vs 80L) - so less range anxiety for the Prado. Ford Everest has the Tremor variant with LT all terrain tyres and wider stance. Altitude does not have LT tyres so for an outback trip, a set of LT tyres would be required.
You can get a optional larger fuel tank fitted by the Ford dealer, and still be way cheaper than the Prado. I think it is 120 liters. It's done by ARB, and under the deal between Ford and ARB this and all the other available ARB options eg. an under bonnet dual battery system, and covered by the Ford warranty.
@@dankiwi01rubbish, it’s due to sales volume. A new engine needs a more and new service support in our small market. Roll out the diesel first then go hybrid when they’re ready to support it locally
Then why is the same Prado released in overseas markets with no mild hybrid? I.e South Africa …….. i.e. country’s with no emissions regulations. It’s the same reason Toyota had to stop selling the v8 Land Cruiser in Australia, not because it wasn’t selling well, it was not going to be able to pass new emissions regulations.
@@dankiwi01regulation is not an effective argument when it is compared to at 3.0L v6 competitor. Toyota should just have developed a smaller displacement v6 engine.
After test driving the Prado and Everest back to back (Lucky enough that both dealers are next to each other where I live) the everest v6 just feels in a different league. That V6 diesel pulls like a train where the old four pot 2.8 is in serious need for a upgrade. Would have loved Toyota to add two more cylinders to the 4cyl making it a 4.2 straight six. Shoudl give us the level of performance you expect.
This is probably the most detailed review ever thanks so much! The Toyota prado definitely has too much compromises and at a higher price too!? I’ve always had my eye on the ford Everest and I’m glad it’s the winner here, I’m also super glad to here it’s not that unreliable🎉
Excellent comparison. Do a Prado 150 vs 250 comparison. I'm sure that other than the looks of the exterior and interior, the 150, especially the Kakadu, will win all other categories.
I wish people would stop making a big deal about terrain modes. They do nothing that can’t be done with a small amount of off-reading nous. I hate the new Prado too but the lack of terrain response on the lower models is no loss.
Interesting that almost all of the issues identified as afflicting both cars are not present in my 2014 4WD. No doubt about it; most unreliability comes from modern tech.
Every time im behind a new cruiser and it belches black smoke all over my old earth killing diesel ute i just thank the powers that be for saving our environment. Where would we be without European emmission standards. We dont appreciate it when we're coughing out lungs up, only when its gone. And thank you for pushing exhaust gas back into the engine, we love it when we go to clean the manifold.
I am retired and have a 2021 bi turbo Everest and tow a 22ft caravan, I have now done 180,000 kms mainly towing, I put a 125 lt long range fuel tank, and a good aftermarket transmission cooler, both are worthwhile investments, only mechanical problem was a turbo hose failure. I would recommend it . Ps it’s a titanium
In Japan, there is another patrol-type Prado 250 specifically for the domestic market, as both diesel and diesel versions are hard to obtain there. It features a 2.7L petrol engine with 246Nm of torque and a 6-speed transmission. It’s the least desirable option, but with stricter regulations these days, I think that’s the direction manufacturers are heading in, unfortunately.
Hardly anyone in Australia wants a 4WD with only 246Nm of torque. The vast majority of these vehicles are sold to people who want to tow a van, horse float, etc. 246Nm wouldn't even get one up a hill. The 600Nm of the V6 Ford option is its biggest selling point for this market.
The boot space in the older models was the only reason for considering a new one. We put 2 E-bikes in the back of out current 120 series (the van takes up the tow-ball). So the new Prado is easily crossed of the list, just on this one factor alone. P.S. The Everest certainly has the length with 2nd and 3rd row seats folded down, just uncertain how difficultly to get through the relative smaller lift style rear door. Wish they had the usually larger side opening style.
My 2024.4 Everest twin turbo 2.0 litre is sweet. The power delivery via the 10 speed auto is a delight. Sub 10.0 l/ 100 km economy is easily achievable ( currently displaying 8.5). Note, this engine requires adblue.
That 2.0L bi-turbo was designed to run adblue from first release, Everest had it the whole time. Same as the V6 3.0L with adblue from its first appearance in old Discovery and Range Rover in 2014.
I can see why so many people are jumping ship to the Everest, you have made that abundantly clear. The only thing that I can defend Toyota on is they only had six recalls in 2024 while Ford had sixteen. At the end of the day people are willing to have less features for the price because of the Toyota badge, to them the badge and name mean more than anything the competition can offer.
Where did you get 16 recalls in 2024 from? www.vehiclerecalls.gov.au/recalls/browse-all-recalls?f%5B0%5D=date_published%3A2022&f%5B1%5D=date_published%3A2023&f%5B2%5D=date_published%3A2024&f%5B3%5D=make%3A39&f%5B4%5D=product_category%3A7 I can only see a handful for the Everest from 2022 to 2024 and mostly shared issues with the Ranger. One of them is a Warn winch problem that's recalled under ARB as they have an aftermarket accessory agreement with Ford, so not really fair to count that as a car related problem.
16 recalls in 2024 for previous gen or current (UB) Everest? There's been four recalls for the current Everest over 2023-24, one was for an ARB winch issue so not fair to blame the car for that one. Have a look at the Vehicle Recalls gov site.
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Very unbiased review..well done for being honest. If I was to choose either it would definitely be the Ford.
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Hi Matt, Yes and No. I went through a similar analysis trying to decide on which to buy. I ended up ordering the Altitude as we only need 5 seats plus the resale will be better than the Everest in years to come. I do love the shape and profile of the Everest but I couldn’t live with the scratchy and cheap feeling hard plastic interior of the Everest and that portrait media display which was buggy on our test drive. The V6 is powerful for sure but it’s still the same PSA/Ford “Lion” motor that suffered catastrophic crankshaft failure at 137,000 kms in our 2012 LR Discovery 4 SDV6. Burn’t once twice shy.
Looks like I’ll need to keep my Discovery 4 going for a while yet. I was really hoping the Prado could be a potential replacement option. Selling the petrol version would eliminate the need for a half arse 48 volt system but you need to fork out even more money for a Lexus is you want the petrol as an option.
I know the outcome already, one will be recalled more than the other, the same one will break down and need repair more often, and that one will have far more depreciation than the other. That’s what matters most to many.
It’s pretty clear my decision to wait for the BYD Leopard 5 or GWM Tank 500 PHEV was justified…. Both are leaps and bounds ahead of the Everest, and definitely the Prado…
Thanks for your objective and honest information. I have a few things to add to your explanation of why Toyota wants to introduce the 48V mild-hybrid system. The diesel+48V combination for the LC250 is only available in Australia and New Zealand. Europe, where emission regulation has long been tough, is missing out on this combination. Therefore, you won't see a huge buck of battery under the third-row seat, at least for now. The 48V system is missing in the European model because Toyota doesn't sell many LC250s there, so it won't breach the CO2 limit in Europe. Also, the US and China don't get the diesel LC250, so the mild-hybrid system is not relevant to them. So, in the coming years, Toyota Australia should follow its American counterpart by ditching the diesel version and replacing it with a petrol hybrid powertrain. Ultimately, the LC family should introduce a PHEV system for the longer term to meet the net zero target. For the AdBlue issue. It is irrelevant to the NVES. It is a requirement of the upcoming Euro 6d emission standard, which should have been introduced in 2018 but delayed by the previous Morrison government.
That was a great review. I honestly expected Toyota to dominate with the new Prado when we started to see how it looked. Unfortunately that's where it stopped. We've had our V6 Ranger for nearly 2 years and I have to say we are not disappointed. Everest only builds on this platform with a few additional extras however for us the extra load capacity and practicality of the tub won, so we went the ute. It's still hard to beat and in reality it's not looking great for the new Hilux other than Toyota is relying heavily on brand loyalty. Their products certainly aren't what they used to be however.
I’m not an ambassador for Toyota so I don’t give a rats what people buy or drive, but if you think that you’re getting an accurate review from these so called c experts than I think your kidding yourself. If you like the ford test drive and buy it, if you like the Toyota than same. But talk to independent mechanics and make a decision from there, why not mention..... gearbox,lack of paint,leaking diesel lines,diff issues,electrical problems, dealer network, 15 minutes service,glow plugs, wet timing belt fiasco ect.
@@mannyvalenti475 I have 2 sons one with a 2014 3.2 ranger The other with a 2019 2 lt bi turbo with 130,000 klms and my bi turbo Everest with 180,000 on it, no problem with any of these vehicles, but I guess if you go through every problem that a ford vehicle has had in the 100 of thousands of vehicles sold, you’ll find a lot of problems, but if you think Toyota doesn’t have similar problems you are in fairyland
Speaking as a 150 Prado owner and past Ford owner, I have to say, a this is a well rounded comparison, although I would have liked a comparison of weights: payload, GVM, and fuel: capacity and range. When first announced I was open to buying the 250. But, as more information was released, and reviews appeared, I decided I'll be keeping my 150 for the foreseeable future. Although the 3.0 V6 of the Ford is very appealing, on selling my last Ford I decided 'never Ford again' based on build quality, reliability, depreciation, and poor customer service at my local Ford dealership - hence I bought the Prado over the Everest and gee I'm so very glad I did! The 300 series remains and option, but I have reservations regarding long term engine durability so I'll wait a few years and see how they perform.
Over 10 years I've talked to many Toyota owners, and what stands out is resilience and tolerance to deficiencies. The wheat farmer with several new 79s chewing oil happy to call into the dealer for free top ups, to the cray fisherman who was advised not to travel the new 200s on dirt roads to avoid dusting the motor. Most also happy to invest more cash addressing suspension, gearbox, engine and interior deficiencies. But I wonder if this tribal acceptance is finally running out?
Everest Sport over the Altitude any day. Excellent review. Nice to see a fair comparative assessment highlighting both good and bad features of both vehicles.
Bought a V6 everest sport in June, had a 150 prado VX on order but with over 18 months waiting we decided to cancel. Best decision ever, once you drive the V6 the prado feels like an old 1HZ cruiser. Runs out of puff after 2500rpm and thats without towing. Put anything behind them the 2.8 engines are hopeless. Have had 1 hilux and 1 prado with the 2.8 before and the Everest is lightyears ahead. Had numerous issues with the hilux 2.8 (granted nothing serious with the prado ) but have had no issues with the everest. Even if we do id still prefer it over the 2.8. Such an underwhelming motor. Have just bought a new farm ute and bought a dmax. If they had a lower spec V6 ranger that would be my first choice but Toyota have lost the plot with their pricing. mid spec dmax with tray, bull bar, two way ect for less than a base model hilux with nothing and the dmax’s have been far more reliable. Unless they pull their finger out toyota are pricing themselves out of the market.
Perhaps the better choice is neither. The Lexus version comes without the hybrid battery, better quality materials and likely features. Probably costs more but you pay your money, you make your choice. I'll stick with my 2021 200 series GXL, thanks. It has already done the Gibb, Cape York and the Great Central Road on separate trips.
I bought the altitude. I personally test drove both and the V6 Everest is nice to drive but I've just heard way too many issues with them, a lot more issues than he mentions in the video. And the whole car just feels cheap and plasticky, it feels like in 5 years there's going to be buttons missing and broken air vents and painted plastic trim that will wear to look ugly. It also has so much cheap chrome crap everywhere reflecting light into your eyes. As for the Prado I really don't like the mild hybrid system, but only because it's just a waste of space for what it does. It's just essentially a big alternator and a second battery that gives a tiny bit of assistance taking off from the lights. It probably wouldn't bother me that much if it actually kicked in more often and made itself useful haha. He mentions off-road features but any model Prado will likely out drive the Everest off-road. but that's part of the trade-off with the suspension and is why the Everest does better on-road, the Everest is a more road focused car. Comfort wise they are both very similar but the Prado does feel a little boaty, but that's also just part of the trade off with suspension. I chose the altitude because of off-road ability and engine reliability and I plan on keeping the car for as long as possible. I can't imagine getting 500,000kms out of the ford engines without issues but there are a lot of Prados out there with the same 1GD engine as the new Prado with over 500,000. Just my thoughts
Hmm my piece of crap ford Ranger has had its freckle worked off since I bought it the fly in 2015. You’ve heard is what’s know as confirmation bias. It’s pretty clear most of them work well. They wouldn’t sell otherwise. I’ve never owned a ford before. Probably never will get one again. I just service it, replace the consumables and steer clear of dealers. Cannot tell you how many times I’ve rescued others of all makes, yes Toyotas included. Your fabled 1GD engine breaks like any other. They all have issues. Get to know your car, service it well and hope for the best. Toyota is not the messiah.
Good choice. You should have ideally gone for vx or Kakadu with adjustable shocks absorbers. Night and day difference in highway and when the roads get rough.
The Toyota Sheep have Arrived without a Basis of Fact They just make their own. I'm not a Brand Loyalist I've had more Toyotas than Fords but the Everest is the Better Car for offroad Towing and on road Fact for the Money. Reliability wise time will tell I've got a a Px2 with 170,000 on the Clock never had a Drama. Also got a N70 with 600,000kms Original Engine Just done a Clutch and few little thinks this is what Toyota Markets for but those days are Gone unfortunately
@@whomcares3438 nailed it. If you want to find problems with a vehicle. You'll find that easy online. But facts are that Ranger sells more Rangers than any other ute/4x4. Surely if the internet was right, they would have died off like Navara has.
I sort of agree with your views, a bit of a dissapointing model. Hope I am wrong but as far as I can tell the Prado still has the same old air filter box that has been linked to engine dusting in the past. Can anyone confirm if this is correct? One thing I like about the. Everst is that the infotainment panel is not to high like the Prado making it easier to use a third party GPS if you want too, without it blocking the centre of the windscreen.
Soo… you had a problem no one else has reported in a prado… and 2 press units had issues plus a bunch of issues in a group in FB (very cientific) and the reliability goes to the everest… I thing is clear who is paying this review
Major issue with the Prado is the motor. Weight has increased by 200kgs, with the same motor as the previous model. Acceleration 0 to 100, 11 sec.It is a slug. Needs another motor. Petrol would be a major improvement.
9:30 you're quoting the wrong figure, Matt. 2207mm is the width of the Everest including the mirror. Overall width of the Everest excluding the mirrors is 1923mm.
G'day guys it's Steven here again Brilliant and brutally honest as per usual. I'm objective and a realist too, I'm certainly not a fan of Toyota nor is this overrated brand on my default list like so many other people, also I don't care for Ford but I can understand the appeal. As I commented on Matt's previous review of this Toyota, this vehicle is an obvious cost cutting measure from top to bottom, far too many compromises and a steep price increase is just offensive and insulting to the consumer. Lookout, the Toyota cultists are lurking and we're not entitled to our opinions or to state factual information. I'll just wait for the soon to be released all new generation of Mitsubishi Pajero Sport thank you very much.
Choosing between the Prado and Everest is like choosing between the ALP and LNP, neither option will end well in the long term. As a side note the 2.0 Bi turbo option for the Everest should be avoided at all cost, it uses a wet timing belt, which is categorically the worst of automotive engineering
I had already decided on the Ford Everest - because of all the points in this vid. I was genuinely hyped for a new Prado, but completely let down on all fronts - especially the abysmal payload capacity. Interesting you didn't call out the new Everest Tremor model, as that would bump up the off-road differences quite a lot.
Very good unbiased report. I have the 20.75 build Everest Sport with the 2lt bi turbo engine. I will start by saying I love the car. It was about 13k worth of off road accessories but unfortunately I no longer trust my vehicle. It will randomly engine cut out whilst driving along the road.....no warning at all! This has happened twice mid intersection. I have had it towed to my local Geelong Ford dealer who tell me there is nothing wrong with the vehicle and they cannot replicate this. Apparently it shows no codes when this happens but Ford Aust whom I complained to and opened a warranty claim has closed the matter without consultation after I told them I did not wish it closed. In fact emails I have sent since then have been unanswered and my contact no longer contacts me back. Strange. Any ideas? Happy to discuss if you wish. p.s. Ford Everest 2lt bi turbo uses adblue since it came out.
Not a Toyota or Ford enthusiast but your history of hating Toyota makes this review rather biased. Yes all manufacturers do have issues with their products Toyota included, it is therefore imperative to point out issues not with a view of discrediting manufacturers rather helping consumers to know what to look out for and make informed decisions.
Been watching the tanks vs everything else, even the leopard 8 which look awesome! When it comes to climbing and mud they're very heavy and struggle, weighing around 3 tonne! I do like them though, especially the hybrid systems using blade batteries. Super fast and the tech is just crazy! I think the 700 and leopard 8 (which I like the most for the $$$) are both coming soon to Australia.
i own Tank 500. Used Prado for 5 years.. i must say.. i am loving Tank 500.. value of money , features.. quality?? just close one door of Tank 500 you will see build quality..
When Toyota has issue… it sucks and thats not good enough, on the other hands, Fords problem, you tried to brush it off and say “sometime you get a lemon” and that is isolated issues, how much more bias you can be?
Own a V6 Everest Sports for six months. The motor and gearbox are refined and you do not know you are driving a diesel. This motor was re-engineered by Ford in the US, prior to it being fitted to the F150 around 5 years. They did a great job.
@@georgejacobsz81 JLR never used this latest Gen3 version, they used the original now referred to Gen 1 and then some much latter models used a variant of the Gen2 improved by the US for use as the PowerStroke in the 2018 F-150.
Ah, yes. That was over 20 years ago. No parts are the same. Don't you think it is time to move on. The motor is manufactured by Ford in the UK, completely re engineered, now with a iron block.
All Everests since their release in 2015 have had AdBlue, including the 2.0l bi-turbo that was released several years later in the series II It will be introduced to all the Rangers soon though
Toyota is very aware of the water issue with the hybrid battery. They even mention in the owner’s manual to not cover up the two large vents in the hatch area, and warn to not pack wet gear or carry water as it can short the electrics. So basically they built a fragile vehicle.
I bought the Everest trend in Jamaica 🇯🇲, the Everest trend is 60 % cheaper than the new Prado at the base model. The titanium is 27% cheaper than base model Prado.
My Toyota with the 2.8L engine had a few issues: I did some water crossings (400-500mm) not even close to its max wading depth. I had water getting into the airbox that compromised the MAF sensor so the fuel mix was so rich that over time it developed a sooted egr. Also I had issues with dust ingress in the airbox. Toyota is not as reliable as it used to be. The Everest with the V6 engine for cheaper price and better boot setup is a no brainer.
For a vehicle that apparently got a long wait list …. There are over 100 demo’s for sale on Carsales. It increases everyday and it is purely because of that ridiculous boot. Altitude is the only one in demand being 5 seats. What were they thinking?
Going to be tears on this one! Well done, facts are facts and the '250' box of lego is not up to the standard expected of a car from Toyota or the price point.
Is there going to be an Everest PHEV launched after the Ranger PHEV? Since they are essentially the same drive train, it would seem a good option for Australia. In a recent new car purchase, there was a 6-12 month waiting list for the Toyota versus “Sure, what colour would you like?” from pretty much every other dealer. Does that supply problem also apply to the Prado?
At least in Australia you guys still have the 300 series... In United States, Toyota replaced the Land Cruiser 200 series with the Prado as the new Land Cruiser. We got played. 😐
Hands down THE BEST review I have ever seen on UA-cam. Thank you for your honesty. Proof that Toyota are taking the piss with this vehicle
Also proof that tens of thousands of Aussies are idiots for lining up to buy a product based on a wholly outdated manufacturer's reputation!
In defense of Prado:
Plasticy interiors, the same can be said about Everest.
Regarding the light wheel, switching to sport mode makes the wheel heavier and the engine more responsive.
Stability, Prado is an AWD vehicle which has superb traction system while Ford are known for unreliable traction.
Offroad, the Prado is much more comfortable at speeds below 80km/h.
Ground clearance, shorter wheelbase provides better turn radius.
The rear seats are tighter, but the mid seats have their own AC independent of the front.
I traded my 2021 150 Prado Kakadu for a 2023 Everest Sport. I know I’m not comparing it to the 250 but the Everest is miles ahead in every way. I actually look forward to driving the Everest and couldn’t say the same the Prado. The Prado gets you from A to B comfortably and reliably but that’s about it…
Purchased the V6 Platinum in Oct 24. Very impressed with what I have. Completed some off road adventures even getting the recovery gear out to free my self and loving every bit. One of the biggest plus's was being able to separate my two youngest boys in different rows of seats. Peace.
Weve had our Everest sport V6 of course, for just over a year now. We still love driving it around town, and towing our camper trailer is absolutely effortless and comfortable.
We have the latest Everest Platinum… ford has nailed this design… Period.
I was so excited for the Prado launch as a Toyota fan, but have felt very disappointed. I am glad someone is calling out the 230mm raised boot and flimsy box for what it is. There is no other manufacturer doing something close to that subpar. The least they could do is offer all models in 5-seats. It’s no wonder there are dealers with stock in the yards.
If you don't want the raised boot then don't get the hybrid version. As simple as that really.
15 years to design the 250 series Prado and yet the dodgy boot and battery set-up chucked in with no thought! No power increase over 150 series and it’s heavier! Only one wireless charge pad…
Well said
Problem is that you average Aussie just looks at the badge and thats why Prado is sold out for 2 years here (apparently there is a cost of living crisis lol) … not the brightest bunch
What's an average Aussie? Given there's 26+ million of them. 🤦
They aren't sold out at all. Plenty of people are getting them straight away, particularly in regional areas.
For anyone that knows vehicles Toyota, isuzu over any other make anyday for these kind of cars mate and toyota over isuzu just because toyota makes their own components
@@Hector-tc8uw Not the case anymore, and hasn't been for at least the last 5 years.
Not everything is about reliability and resale value alone... Although they are of course important, Toyota is starting to fail with reliability and that will eventually impact resale. Other brands are fast catching up and even overtaking Toyota.... All good things must come to an end eventually.
Probably ok just to dump the kids at school but not if you actually want to use it.
I LOVE the Prado's new styling, but at that price, with the minimal perks offered, I would go for the V6 Everest. 😅
Love the styling? my grandkids say it looks like a lego car. And kids can be very critical.
@@tallboy49 Kids are the last people you should listen to.
@@tallboy49 I happen to love Lego. Styling is subjective. I love it. It looks like a car I can draw and there isn't a single problem with that.
@@BrianChiedo At least they tell it like it is, not like adults who will lie to get a message accross
Also not covered in this review is the servicing costs?
Toyota Prado 250 are 6 monthly intervals where the Ford Everest is 12 monthly, making the Prado twice as expensive to maintain !!
I’m not even in the market for a new car.. I’m just here for the great videos
Toyota's reliability reputation went out the door years ago, they are now having as many issues as anyone else.
And Ford has a reliability reputation???? haha NO
so true my Prado had a recall.. which they addressed after 5 years of recall just 10 days before i sold the car and moved to tank 500
@@ernishant13 How do you find the Tank 500?
@aswinhoola it's good so far it's been 3 weeks 3000km no issues. If find it better than my landcruiser
Yeah and lots of GR Yaris got recalls too
Totally agree with your assessment - it is amazing that Toyota has botched this model so badly given they've had 15 years to get it right. Laughed when you recommended the 150 over the 250 as I have had two 150s a 2009 and the most recent being a MY20 model and I just can't see a single part of the 250 that is better than the 150. The Everest is on my shopping list as a replacement which means I will abandon Toyota after 15 years. Little things like a towbar and quality redarc brake controller as standard on the Ford as well as the plethora of towing aids says to me that Ford has listened to their customers whereas Toyota is now coming across as a arrogant over priced product trading on past glory - bye bye Toyota.
Spot on , 15 years to come up with this model is criminal.
What's even more criminal is the Donkeys 🫏 buying them ,so overpriced!!
Hard to believe how far Toyota has fallen behind.
But looking at these two side by side, the one thing stands out - the BYD Bao/Leopard 5 will eat these two alive when it enters the Australian market this year. 500kw, 750nm, 100+ km on EV, essentially free km for those 35% of Aussie homes with solar. And looking at owner videos, just as impressive off road capabilities… even the GWM Tank 500 PHEV coming our way will eat these two for breakfast…
The Chinese certainly are coming, and the legacy brands just let them with their lack of innovation and ambition.
The only problem is when they tow that Hybrid 100km will be down to 20km and then your on petrol Plus they are way to heavy for off-roading Too complicated to modify maybe they will be good for the school run
Best choice I made was getting an Everest Sport over the 250. Thank fudge.
Great video .loads of information, and I agree 100% what you said about the 250 prado..
I was too sold on the new prado look when it came out, and made a booking in 2023 itself.. When it launched, I did a test drive, and man, what a disaster...!!! My major grips were:
1. Of course, the boot space and design, less say the better.. !
2. It drives like a grand dad, not enough power in the mid range, steering is too light without any feedback, i had to clutch on to steering wheel for it to not wander around..
3. Cramped second row design , and not adjustable despite being a big car..
4. Dash design for GXL/ GX: Really toyota? A single dial speedo meter on the dash with bar graph displays and vacant spaces on an 87K on-road cost vehicle? At the very least, you could have incorporated an analog meter to make it look nice.. It just meant you just don't f*cking care about the customers..!!!
And, the list goes on..
I cancelled my booking and got my deposit back..
An advice to toyota... when you try to rip off customers, do it discreetly and delicately, but not as a day light robbery like prado..
You just upset all the Toyota fan boys. Aussie bogans won’t be able to comprehend what you have just explained 😂 so the only category the Prado won was the subjective one of looks 😂. Awesome review. Nice and honest.
Since when could bogans afford a Prado?
@ mate Australia is the capital of cashed up bogans with zero class 😂 boganism isn’t just related to cash flow. It’s a general lack of class and intelligence.
@@MrDanjacsHogan's busy buying Rangers.
Most are busy with their Rangers. @@MrDanjacs
@@MrDanjacs Since 0% finance deals in addition to the banks handing out loans like confetti.
Great honest review. Toyota is taking the piss with this prado. Although the articulation is amazing. Ford is great. Can’t believe it. I’ve been a toyota man my whole life.
Interesting to note that the South African spec Prado does NOT have the 48v nonsense and consequently the boot is as roomy as the 150 with 3 rd row seats flush to the floor!
Toyota Australia definitely screwed Aussie customers over with the trim variants and options for the Land Cruiser 250 Prado.
This video will sell a lot off Prado's. Nothing a Toyota buyer loves more than paying 10k to much, for the worst vehicle money can buy in the segment.
Review of the century.....thanks and much respect!
The idea that Toyota is top engineering has always been more spin than fact. As the owner of a 2004 Prodo, was it good enough all the external paint fell off (this happened to all Toyota models all over the world painted in 'pearl white'), the dash developed extensive cracking, the air-conditioner condenser in the cab leaked (requiring the whole dash to be pulled out to fixed. The front wheel bearing assemblies only lasted 100K ..... I could go on.
They have NEVER been the standard that many people think.
That’s a 25 yr old car.
No 25yr old everests complaining because they’re long gone before then
@@markrichards5882but we have 25 year Old Ford pick up trucks.
@@markrichards5882 What has now being 25 years old got to do with sheets of paint falling off about year 5, and the dash cracking about the same time, and the air conditioner condenser also failing then.
The ONLY reason it is still going is because I'm a motor-mechanic and its cost effective for me to do the repairs, even the repainting of the thing. It would have long ago been in the dump if the average person owned it.
P.S. My 1996 Commodore which sits in the sun permanently still has original decent paint and the dash is perfect.
Great vid - agree 100%. Some US reviewers have also been extremely disappointed with the Toyota, especially the engine.
I'm a life long Toyota owner and really wanted to love the Prado but I ended up buying an Everest & I got a top of the range Everest for way less money than the roughly equivalent Altitude. The Prado also has too many compromises. Sad really. Mind you I won't own the Everest longer that the warranty!
You wouldn't want to own this Prado past warranty either. You'll be fine with the Everest.
@@Deatomizerbruh everest are unreliable peices of shit, not that I’m a fan of Toyotas either but fords have been the laughing stock in workshops for the past 10years
Here in the UK the Land Cruiser doesn't have the hybrid bollocks just the engine. We don't lose boot space and Id argue although it's not a smooth donkey, it actually make the vehicle better for it. Simpler. More reliable. Lighter.
I'll take the Ford any day. People have figured out that the Ford transmission works well after a good warmup, and it's more refined overall. Prado is just Toyota being lazy. GX is a different story though.
Good luck try telling that to Toyota Fortuner owners in South Africa. The Prado is one tier up from the Fortuner.
Everest Tremor? Yes please :) My 2017 Everest has 170k on the OD and still feels new. There are no creaks or issues and has been all around Aus pulling a trailer on family holiday outings. If Ford brings out an Everest Raptor or Tremor I'll be seriously considering an upgrade :)
They have a tremor Everest
ReDriven Mechanical expert Jim has noted that the Toyota 2.8 Turbo Diesel received extensive upgrades from 2020 … this includes the EGR and timing chain.
There is a lot of evidence that this is one of the most reliable engines in a vehicle today if maintained correctly … shame about the rest of the vehicles issues and Hybrid afterthought - the Ford appears to be the better value, performance, practicality and handling option!
Well done to Ford and a thank you to Ford for supporting Australian Mechanical Engineers in developing the Ranger and Everest here.
I have a 2021 Prado Kakadu. I was really looking forward to the 250, however when I took the Kakadu for a test drive I was very disappointed. No KDSS, no rear airbag suspension, no shift paddles and a terrible boot space. The spec level on lower trims has been stepped up and the Kakadu level is no longer a big difference, it is now just a VX with a bigger sunroof. Without the KDSS it also handles worse than my 150. The KDSS really cures all the Prado's high-speed handling issues and should be on the 250, the Lexus GX has it. I am going to hold off for 2026 and hope Toyota comes to their senses and makes some changes.
Great review! We just picked up an V6 Everest. The crew at Broadmeadows seemed to nail the design and execution.
I don't like timing-belt, it should be chain.
Ford’s in-house transmission issues are concerning, with some models prone to failure. Additionally, certain engines use a rubber timing belt inside the oil, which can degrade over time, shedding rubber that blocks oil passages. Definitely worth double-checking before buying.
Good advice and on the Toyotas replace the air box if you go on dirt roads and replace the oil from 0-30 to at least 10-30 unless you want the main bearings to crap out although that will void your warranty and use more fuel.
@ Ford’s in-house 10-speed automatic transmission so bad they ditched it for rangers sold in China for German transmission.
Ford has a 10 speed auto gearbox vs Toyota's 8 speed. Two more gears can be all the difference for extracting the most out of the engine. One point in favour for Ford.
However Toyota has a larger fuel tank. (110L vs 80L) - so less range anxiety for the Prado.
Ford Everest has the Tremor variant with LT all terrain tyres and wider stance. Altitude does not have LT tyres so for an outback trip, a set of LT tyres would be required.
I wonder how those two gearboxes would go towing long-term.
You can get a optional larger fuel tank fitted by the Ford dealer, and still be way cheaper than the Prado. I think it is 120 liters. It's done by ARB, and under the deal between Ford and ARB this and all the other available ARB options eg. an under bonnet dual battery system, and covered by the Ford warranty.
If you put that "Land Cruiser" sticker on any trash can it can sell for twice the price...🥴🥴🥴
Last Land Cruiser prado came out in 2009
How on earth did Toyota took 15 years to launch a worse vehicle than the predecessor unbelievable
Government regulation as he said in the video. Toyota wouldn’t be doing this mild hybrid in a 4x4 if they weren’t forced to.
@@dankiwi01rubbish, it’s due to sales volume. A new engine needs a more and new service support in our small market.
Roll out the diesel first then go hybrid when they’re ready to support it locally
Then why is the same Prado released in overseas markets with no mild hybrid? I.e South Africa …….. i.e. country’s with no emissions regulations. It’s the same reason Toyota had to stop selling the v8 Land Cruiser in Australia, not because it wasn’t selling well, it was not going to be able to pass new emissions regulations.
@@dankiwi01regulation is not an effective argument when it is compared to at 3.0L v6 competitor.
Toyota should just have developed a smaller displacement v6 engine.
@@dankiwi01regulation argument is dumb, when it was just compared to a v6.
After test driving the Prado and Everest back to back (Lucky enough that both dealers are next to each other where I live) the everest v6 just feels in a different league. That V6 diesel pulls like a train where the old four pot 2.8 is in serious need for a upgrade. Would have loved Toyota to add two more cylinders to the 4cyl making it a 4.2 straight six. Shoudl give us the level of performance you expect.
This is probably the most detailed review ever thanks so much! The Toyota prado definitely has too much compromises and at a higher price too!? I’ve always had my eye on the ford Everest and I’m glad it’s the winner here, I’m also super glad to here it’s not that unreliable🎉
Excellent comparison. Do a Prado 150 vs 250 comparison. I'm sure that other than the looks of the exterior and interior, the 150, especially the Kakadu, will win all other categories.
i had a hi-lux and have bought a ford Everest tremor v6 the thing is a weapon i love it.
You must not be in Australia, because they haven't been released here yet...
1:36 single turbo, not twin-turbo, Matthew…
Firing my editor sorry 😭
I was also about to go looking for the second turbo 🤣
I wish people would stop making a big deal about terrain modes. They do nothing that can’t be done with a small amount of off-reading nous. I hate the new Prado too but the lack of terrain response on the lower models is no loss.
Interesting that almost all of the issues identified as afflicting both cars are not present in my 2014 4WD. No doubt about it; most unreliability comes from modern tech.
It's the primary reason I hang onto my 2004 Prado. It's pre common rail, so even injector replacements can be done by a competent home mechanic.
So the stories about the Everest having transmission problems are not true?
Care to provide proof of Everest reliability concerns? Long term data would be good because I can’t find anything.
I remember a few years ago, when Toyota would not accept the the Everest was a direct competitor to the Prado. How times change.
Shockingly, they still say it is not!
Every time im behind a new cruiser and it belches black smoke all over my old earth killing diesel ute i just thank the powers that be for saving our environment. Where would we be without European emmission standards. We dont appreciate it when we're coughing out lungs up, only when its gone. And thank you for pushing exhaust gas back into the engine, we love it when we go to clean the manifold.
I am retired and have a 2021 bi turbo
Everest and tow a 22ft caravan, I have now done 180,000 kms mainly towing, I put a 125 lt long range fuel tank, and a good aftermarket transmission cooler, both are worthwhile investments, only mechanical problem was a turbo hose failure.
I would recommend it .
Ps it’s a titanium
In Japan, there is another patrol-type Prado 250 specifically for the domestic market, as both diesel and diesel versions are hard to obtain there. It features a 2.7L petrol engine with 246Nm of torque and a 6-speed transmission. It’s the least desirable option, but with stricter regulations these days, I think that’s the direction manufacturers are heading in, unfortunately.
Hardly anyone in Australia wants a 4WD with only 246Nm of torque. The vast majority of these vehicles are sold to people who want to tow a van, horse float, etc. 246Nm wouldn't even get one up a hill. The 600Nm of the V6 Ford option is its biggest selling point for this market.
Neither for the price
So you would choice the Isuzu MUX then?
@@nevininni2709 yes for me
@@nevininni2709 clearly
Both are them are 30% cheaper in china… too much bushy tax in here
@@espkh154930% cheaper in Thailand.
The Prado boot space is a deal breaker for me
The boot space in the older models was the only reason for considering a new one. We put 2 E-bikes in the back of out current 120 series (the van takes up the tow-ball). So the new Prado is easily crossed of the list, just on this one factor alone.
P.S. The Everest certainly has the length with 2nd and 3rd row seats folded down, just uncertain how difficultly to get through the relative smaller lift style rear door. Wish they had the usually larger side opening style.
Absolutely agree with every word. Actually, I have already made the same decision a month ago. Prado is no no
My 2024.4 Everest twin turbo 2.0 litre is sweet. The power delivery via the 10 speed auto is a delight. Sub 10.0 l/ 100 km economy is easily achievable ( currently displaying 8.5).
Note, this engine requires adblue.
How often do you refill the adblue?
Wait a little and the maintainable on that trash can will make you squeel
Great review, thank you. I look forward to your insight on the Everest Tremor asap.
recently looked at 300, 250 and everest back to back and decided if i ever downsize from my Y62 i'd choose everest..
Keep the patrol
The fuel difference will be paid for by the depreciation of any of the new options
That 2.0L bi-turbo was designed to run adblue from first release, Everest had it the whole time. Same as the V6 3.0L with adblue from its first appearance in old Discovery and Range Rover in 2014.
Yeh, not sure what info he has gotten. I’ve got the biturbo (2019) and it has had adblu since inception…
I can see why so many people are jumping ship to the Everest, you have made that abundantly clear. The only thing that I can defend Toyota on is they only had six recalls in 2024 while Ford had sixteen.
At the end of the day people are willing to have less features for the price because of the Toyota badge, to them the badge and name mean more than anything the competition can offer.
Where did you get 16 recalls in 2024 from?
www.vehiclerecalls.gov.au/recalls/browse-all-recalls?f%5B0%5D=date_published%3A2022&f%5B1%5D=date_published%3A2023&f%5B2%5D=date_published%3A2024&f%5B3%5D=make%3A39&f%5B4%5D=product_category%3A7
I can only see a handful for the Everest from 2022 to 2024 and mostly shared issues with the Ranger. One of them is a Warn winch problem that's recalled under ARB as they have an aftermarket accessory agreement with Ford, so not really fair to count that as a car related problem.
16 recalls in 2024 for previous gen or current (UB) Everest? There's been four recalls for the current Everest over 2023-24, one was for an ARB winch issue so not fair to blame the car for that one.
Have a look at the Vehicle Recalls gov site.
Which are you choosing? Was I fair? 🤔
Read our full article here: www.carsauce.com/car-news/2025-toyota-landcruiser-prado-vs-2025-ford-everest-a-comprehensive-comparison
I can choose any🎉🎉🥳🥳!!
I dare you to go to Indian and review the Toyota Fortuner Legender and it has sequential indicators 🎉🎉🥳!!
I went the Everest as soon as I knew the Prado was still a 4 cylinder. Have had 0 issues. Love it.
Very unbiased review..well done for being honest. If I was to choose either it would definitely be the Ford.
Hi Matt, Yes and No. I went through a similar analysis trying to decide on which to buy. I ended up ordering the Altitude as we only need 5 seats plus the resale will be better than the Everest in years to come. I do love the shape and profile of the Everest but I couldn’t live with the scratchy and cheap feeling hard plastic interior of the Everest and that portrait media display which was buggy on our test drive. The V6 is powerful for sure but it’s still the same PSA/Ford “Lion” motor that suffered catastrophic crankshaft failure at 137,000 kms in our 2012 LR Discovery 4 SDV6. Burn’t once twice shy.
Now that's the type of review I love to see.
Well done, a real world honest view. As Much as I love the Toyota, this has me thinking.
Looks like I’ll need to keep my Discovery 4 going for a while yet. I was really hoping the Prado could be a potential replacement option. Selling the petrol version would eliminate the need for a half arse 48 volt system but you need to fork out even more money for a Lexus is you want the petrol as an option.
I know the outcome already, one will be recalled more than the other, the same one will break down and need repair more often, and that one will have far more depreciation than the other. That’s what matters most to many.
Banking on the reputation of the old model? Looks like we know what is really important to people like…
"Oh what a feeling" have lost the plot BYD must B loving this 😎
It’s pretty clear my decision to wait for the BYD Leopard 5 or GWM Tank 500 PHEV was justified…. Both are leaps and bounds ahead of the Everest, and definitely the Prado…
Can’t believe your still going on about the dpf issue which has been sorted years ago
😂😂😂😂 sure it has.
Seen a new GR hilux blowing the cloud of smoke this morning.
Thanks for your objective and honest information. I have a few things to add to your explanation of why Toyota wants to introduce the 48V mild-hybrid system. The diesel+48V combination for the LC250 is only available in Australia and New Zealand. Europe, where emission regulation has long been tough, is missing out on this combination. Therefore, you won't see a huge buck of battery under the third-row seat, at least for now.
The 48V system is missing in the European model because Toyota doesn't sell many LC250s there, so it won't breach the CO2 limit in Europe.
Also, the US and China don't get the diesel LC250, so the mild-hybrid system is not relevant to them. So, in the coming years, Toyota Australia should follow its American counterpart by ditching the diesel version and replacing it with a petrol hybrid powertrain. Ultimately, the LC family should introduce a PHEV system for the longer term to meet the net zero target.
For the AdBlue issue. It is irrelevant to the NVES. It is a requirement of the upcoming Euro 6d emission standard, which should have been introduced in 2018 but delayed by the previous Morrison government.
Bad news .. the US Powertrain has the same battery hump in the back 😂😂😂
@@daniel-ino The core reason is that Japanese engineers lack a vision, so their products are mostly not future-proofing.
That was a great review. I honestly expected Toyota to dominate with the new Prado when we started to see how it looked. Unfortunately that's where it stopped.
We've had our V6 Ranger for nearly 2 years and I have to say we are not disappointed. Everest only builds on this platform with a few additional extras however for us the extra load capacity and practicality of the tub won, so we went the ute.
It's still hard to beat and in reality it's not looking great for the new Hilux other than Toyota is relying heavily on brand loyalty. Their products certainly aren't what they used to be however.
Good honest comparison thank you
Ford more reliable than Toyota? Really?
Did you know that nowadays planes are jet powered, how things have changed , catch up
I’m not an ambassador for Toyota so I don’t give a rats what people buy or drive, but if you think that you’re getting an accurate review from these so called c experts than I think your kidding yourself. If you like the ford test drive and buy it, if you like the Toyota than same. But talk to independent mechanics and make a decision from there, why not mention..... gearbox,lack of paint,leaking diesel lines,diff issues,electrical problems, dealer network, 15 minutes service,glow plugs, wet timing belt fiasco ect.
@@mannyvalenti475 I have 2 sons one with a 2014 3.2 ranger
The other with a 2019 2 lt bi turbo with 130,000 klms and my bi turbo Everest with 180,000 on it, no problem with any of these vehicles, but I guess if you go through every problem that a ford vehicle has had in the 100 of thousands of vehicles sold, you’ll find a lot of problems, but if you think Toyota doesn’t have similar problems you are in fairyland
Speaking as a 150 Prado owner and past Ford owner, I have to say, a this is a well rounded comparison, although I would have liked a comparison of weights: payload, GVM, and fuel: capacity and range. When first announced I was open to buying the 250. But, as more information was released, and reviews appeared, I decided I'll be keeping my 150 for the foreseeable future. Although the 3.0 V6 of the Ford is very appealing, on selling my last Ford I decided 'never Ford again' based on build quality, reliability, depreciation, and poor customer service at my local Ford dealership - hence I bought the Prado over the Everest and gee I'm so very glad I did! The 300 series remains and option, but I have reservations regarding long term engine durability so I'll wait a few years and see how they perform.
Over 10 years I've talked to many Toyota owners, and what stands out is resilience and tolerance to deficiencies. The wheat farmer with several new 79s chewing oil happy to call into the dealer for free top ups, to the cray fisherman who was advised not to travel the new 200s on dirt roads to avoid dusting the motor. Most also happy to invest more cash addressing suspension, gearbox, engine and interior deficiencies. But I wonder if this tribal acceptance is finally running out?
Everest Sport over the Altitude any day. Excellent review. Nice to see a fair comparative assessment highlighting both good and bad features of both vehicles.
You just love Ford period not so much of a fair review
Shocking Review as it is the exact opposite that you will find it you take the review results from 100 Drivers/Owners!
Bought a V6 everest sport in June, had a 150 prado VX on order but with over 18 months waiting we decided to cancel. Best decision ever, once you drive the V6 the prado feels like an old 1HZ cruiser. Runs out of puff after 2500rpm and thats without towing. Put anything behind them the 2.8 engines are hopeless. Have had 1 hilux and 1 prado with the 2.8 before and the Everest is lightyears ahead. Had numerous issues with the hilux 2.8 (granted nothing serious with the prado ) but have had no issues with the everest. Even if we do id still prefer it over the 2.8. Such an underwhelming motor. Have just bought a new farm ute and bought a dmax. If they had a lower spec V6 ranger that would be my first choice but Toyota have lost the plot with their pricing. mid spec dmax with tray, bull bar, two way ect for less than a base model hilux with nothing and the dmax’s have been far more reliable. Unless they pull their finger out toyota are pricing themselves out of the market.
Perhaps the better choice is neither. The Lexus version comes without the hybrid battery, better quality materials and likely features.
Probably costs more but you pay your money, you make your choice.
I'll stick with my 2021 200 series GXL, thanks. It has already done the Gibb, Cape York and the Great Central Road on separate trips.
One of my friends took the dpf out it runs like you wouldn't believe
I bought the altitude. I personally test drove both and the V6 Everest is nice to drive but I've just heard way too many issues with them, a lot more issues than he mentions in the video. And the whole car just feels cheap and plasticky, it feels like in 5 years there's going to be buttons missing and broken air vents and painted plastic trim that will wear to look ugly. It also has so much cheap chrome crap everywhere reflecting light into your eyes. As for the Prado I really don't like the mild hybrid system, but only because it's just a waste of space for what it does. It's just essentially a big alternator and a second battery that gives a tiny bit of assistance taking off from the lights. It probably wouldn't bother me that much if it actually kicked in more often and made itself useful haha. He mentions off-road features but any model Prado will likely out drive the Everest off-road. but that's part of the trade-off with the suspension and is why the Everest does better on-road, the Everest is a more road focused car. Comfort wise they are both very similar but the Prado does feel a little boaty, but that's also just part of the trade off with suspension. I chose the altitude because of off-road ability and engine reliability and I plan on keeping the car for as long as possible. I can't imagine getting 500,000kms out of the ford engines without issues but there are a lot of Prados out there with the same 1GD engine as the new Prado with over 500,000.
Just my thoughts
Hmm my piece of crap ford Ranger has had its freckle worked off since I bought it the fly in 2015. You’ve heard is what’s know as confirmation bias. It’s pretty clear most of them work well. They wouldn’t sell otherwise. I’ve never owned a ford before. Probably never will get one again. I just service it, replace the consumables and steer clear of dealers. Cannot tell you how many times I’ve rescued others of all makes, yes Toyotas included. Your fabled 1GD engine breaks like any other. They all have issues. Get to know your car, service it well and hope for the best. Toyota is not the messiah.
You heard wrong. All the best though, sincerely.
Good choice. You should have ideally gone for vx or Kakadu with adjustable shocks absorbers. Night and day difference in highway and when the roads get rough.
The Toyota Sheep have Arrived without a Basis of Fact They just make their own. I'm not a Brand Loyalist I've had more Toyotas than Fords but the Everest is the Better Car for offroad Towing and on road Fact for the Money. Reliability wise time will tell I've got a a Px2 with 170,000 on the Clock never had a Drama. Also got a N70 with 600,000kms Original Engine Just done a Clutch and few little thinks this is what Toyota Markets for but those days are Gone unfortunately
@@whomcares3438 nailed it.
If you want to find problems with a vehicle. You'll find that easy online.
But facts are that Ranger sells more Rangers than any other ute/4x4. Surely if the internet was right, they would have died off like Navara has.
I sort of agree with your views, a bit of a dissapointing model.
Hope I am wrong but as far as I can tell the Prado still has the same old air filter box that has been linked to engine dusting in the past.
Can anyone confirm if this is correct?
One thing I like about the. Everst is that the infotainment panel is not to high like the Prado making it easier to use a third party GPS if you want too, without it blocking the centre of the windscreen.
Soo… you had a problem no one else has reported in a prado… and 2 press units had issues plus a bunch of issues in a group in FB (very cientific) and the reliability goes to the everest… I thing is clear who is paying this review
Major issue with the Prado is the motor. Weight has increased by 200kgs, with the same motor as the previous model. Acceleration 0 to 100, 11 sec.It is a slug. Needs another motor. Petrol would be a major improvement.
9:30 you're quoting the wrong figure, Matt. 2207mm is the width of the Everest including the mirror. Overall width of the Everest excluding the mirrors is 1923mm.
G'day guys it's Steven here again
Brilliant and brutally honest as per usual.
I'm objective and a realist too, I'm certainly not a fan of Toyota nor is this overrated brand on my default list like so many other people, also I don't care for Ford but I can understand the appeal.
As I commented on Matt's previous review of this Toyota, this vehicle is an obvious cost cutting measure from top to bottom, far too many compromises and a steep price increase is just offensive and insulting to the consumer.
Lookout, the Toyota cultists are lurking and we're not entitled to our opinions or to state factual information.
I'll just wait for the soon to be released all new generation of Mitsubishi Pajero Sport thank you very much.
Choosing between the Prado and Everest is like choosing between the ALP and LNP, neither option will end well in the long term. As a side note the 2.0 Bi turbo option for the Everest should be avoided at all cost, it uses a wet timing belt, which is categorically the worst of automotive engineering
I had already decided on the Ford Everest - because of all the points in this vid. I was genuinely hyped for a new Prado, but completely let down on all fronts - especially the abysmal payload capacity.
Interesting you didn't call out the new Everest Tremor model, as that would bump up the off-road differences quite a lot.
Very good unbiased report.
I have the 20.75 build Everest Sport with the 2lt bi turbo engine. I will start by saying I love the car. It was about 13k worth of off road accessories but unfortunately I no longer trust my vehicle. It will randomly engine cut out whilst driving along the road.....no warning at all! This has happened twice mid intersection. I have had it towed to my local Geelong Ford dealer who tell me there is nothing wrong with the vehicle and they cannot replicate this. Apparently it shows no codes when this happens but Ford Aust whom I complained to and opened a warranty claim has closed the matter without consultation after I told them I did not wish it closed. In fact emails I have sent since then have been unanswered and my contact no longer contacts me back. Strange. Any ideas? Happy to discuss if you wish.
p.s. Ford Everest 2lt bi turbo uses adblue since it came out.
Not a Toyota or Ford enthusiast but your history of hating Toyota makes this review rather biased. Yes all manufacturers do have issues with their products Toyota included, it is therefore imperative to point out issues not with a view of discrediting manufacturers rather helping consumers to know what to look out for and make informed decisions.
Interested to understand if you would compare the Hilux and Ranger the same way.
Hey, Tank 500 top trim is cheaper and better equipped than both. Also, do you guys know if and when will Tank 700 arrive in AU?
Been watching the tanks vs everything else, even the leopard 8 which look awesome! When it comes to climbing and mud they're very heavy and struggle, weighing around 3 tonne! I do like them though, especially the hybrid systems using blade batteries. Super fast and the tech is just crazy! I think the 700 and leopard 8 (which I like the most for the $$$) are both coming soon to Australia.
i own Tank 500. Used Prado for 5 years.. i must say.. i am loving Tank 500.. value of money , features.. quality?? just close one door of Tank 500 you will see build quality..
They definitely look the goods, I’ll wait a few years before taking the plunge.
Tank 500, Tank 700 are way better
When Toyota has issue… it sucks and thats not good enough, on the other hands, Fords problem, you tried to brush it off and say “sometime you get a lemon” and that is isolated issues, how much more bias you can be?
Own a V6 Everest Sports for six months. The motor and gearbox are refined and you do not know you are driving a diesel. This motor was re-engineered by Ford in the US, prior to it being fitted to the F150 around 5 years. They did a great job.
Its a land Rover engine from 2004... 😅
@@georgejacobsz81wrong there mate, that was Gen 1. The US used Gen2, this is now Gen3 already tested hard for years by the new Ranger.
@narsil316 nope, Ford gen 3 introduced in 2022.. That is an old Land Rover Discovery engine..
@@georgejacobsz81 JLR never used this latest Gen3 version, they used the original now referred to Gen 1 and then some much latter models used a variant of the Gen2 improved by the US for use as the PowerStroke in the 2018 F-150.
Ah, yes. That was over 20 years ago. No parts are the same. Don't you think it is time to move on. The motor is manufactured by Ford in the UK, completely re engineered, now with a iron block.
The Toyota Prado 250 also has an EV sticker on Australian registration number plates which I can only guess adds to vehicle insurance costs?
All Everests since their release in 2015 have had AdBlue, including the 2.0l bi-turbo that was released several years later in the series II
It will be introduced to all the Rangers soon though
What were the payloads and weights comparisons?
Toyota is very aware of the water issue with the hybrid battery. They even mention in the owner’s manual to not cover up the two large vents in the hatch area, and warn to not pack wet gear or carry water as it can short the electrics.
So basically they built a fragile vehicle.
I bought the Everest trend in Jamaica 🇯🇲, the Everest trend is 60 % cheaper than the new Prado at the base model. The titanium is 27% cheaper than base model Prado.
My Toyota with the 2.8L engine had a few issues: I did some water crossings (400-500mm) not even close to its max wading depth. I had water getting into the airbox that compromised the MAF sensor so the fuel mix was so rich that over time it developed a sooted egr. Also I had issues with dust ingress in the airbox. Toyota is not as reliable as it used to be. The Everest with the V6 engine for cheaper price and better boot setup is a no brainer.
Tank 500 is better than both of them. Driven all 3 extensively
For a vehicle that apparently got a long wait list …. There are over 100 demo’s for sale on Carsales. It increases everyday and it is purely because of that ridiculous boot. Altitude is the only one in demand being 5 seats. What were they thinking?
Going to be tears on this one! Well done, facts are facts and the '250' box of lego is not up to the standard expected of a car from Toyota or the price point.
Is there going to be an Everest PHEV launched after the Ranger PHEV? Since they are essentially the same drive train, it would seem a good option for Australia.
In a recent new car purchase, there was a 6-12 month waiting list for the Toyota versus “Sure, what colour would you like?” from pretty much every other dealer. Does that supply problem also apply to the Prado?
At least in Australia you guys still have the 300 series... In United States, Toyota replaced the Land Cruiser 200 series with the Prado as the new Land Cruiser. We got played. 😐
You guys got the awesome 4runner....
Isn’t AdBlue already with the 2.0 BiTurbo, as it was on my 2019 Everest?
I do wish we got the Everest in the US. I may have even considered it above my Land Cruiser. 😢