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How PG&E rate hikes are impacting electric vehicle charging
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- The cost to charge electric vehicles will become more expensive with PG&E raising rates for a second time this year. Bob Redell reports.
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How tf did PG&E go from declaring bankruptcy in 2019 to record profits and jacking rates in 2024? 😒
Isn't it obvious??? Bribes to the governor, his wife and the regulators he appointed.
With help from the political class and lobbying investors. They have to be reimbursed somehow, and everytime politicians ensure the public pays for these schemes.
They only declared bankruptcy to avoid paying out the many wildfire victims that they were directly responsible for.
They give millions to Newsom’s wife. Do the math……
Green energy is simply expensive. If you don't like the impact on your wallet, then vote for leaders who don't care about green energy.
It's only a matter of time that companies who own charging stations start raising prices, nothing is a free ride.
It's everyone that is effectd not just charging companies and that includes you😂 dumb😂
No one is expecting free. It's America. Everything costs more than advertised. The same day they mandated everyone in Kamalafornia would be forced to drive an electric vehicle was the same day they started closing the state sponsorship of solar panels on your roof. Coincidence? Be sure to buy your bread at a friend of Gavin Newsom. it's always chearper.
Ofcourse. Its just bait and the liberal agenda. Stations need maintenance and the city needs their money to produce electricity.⚡️
it NEVER was DUH
And they will tax it per kilowatt hour as a road tax.
I hate it here.
Then leave.
Well if the electric rates go up, it will obviously impact everybody, not just the charging of EVs. I live in a 1 bedroom and my energy bill for the month of February was up 20% though I have minimal energy usage (I don't use a heater). The report/discussion/debate media should be having is why there 0 competition to PG&E in most of California. It has been bailed out multiple times by the state. Apparently PG&E also makes political donations to Newsom. Will anyone in the media take this up?
There’s a multi newsroom investigation going on right now due to allegations that PG&E and the California governor have had secret meetings prior to the rate hikes
Excellent point, media is afraid to ask those questions
Because solar and alternatives cut the power companies out of the loop.
Compare it to how the internet services and cell phones impacted the cable/phone companies. Shrinking profits and still they have to pay for cable maintenance and infrastructure.
Same for power. More people are making their own. Eventually we’ll only need the power companies for backup and infrastructure.
The news just recently started talking about back room talks between PG&E and governor Newsom and meetings being released to public. Newsom is a crook and has been for a while.
@@crtmojo2705 Unless you're a renter. Then you're SOL. You can't install solar or go off the grid when you live in an apartment, and California has basically shut anyone out of home ownership if they don't already own one now.
Surprise! More than 1/3 of your savings gone in two years.
"They DO cost hundreds or thousands of dollars more than gas-powered vehicles.". Hundreds? You must be confusing them with scooters.
The MSRP of a Camry XLE is $32165 without options or dealer markup. The price of a new 2024 Model 3 is $35990 with no options. Total cost of ownership is near 0. So we are talking about $3K delta for a better car that is cheaper to operate at a minimum of what $50/mo.
You can also do what I did and add solar to my home and get rid of the $50 and your electric bill completely. I haven't yet seen a gas refinery and well that fits in a garage. 😉
It was all by design. EV gonna end up paying as much as gas cars.
LOL. I'm here from the government, and I'm here to lie.
Calculations?
Indeed. The gig is up.
@@beyondfossilthere is no war in Ba Sing Se as we've always been at war with Eurasia...
What if it doesn't?
Probably like any other doomsday sayer. Lol
Only thing not going up in Cali is my salary
What I'd like to know is how utilities from other states able to offer off-peak rates less than $0.10/kwh while PG&E's off-peak rates are almost $0.40/kwh?!
It’s .48 cent in sf
Because other states didn't shut down their energy production like they did here. Took all but one of the nuclear power plants off line (which they are taking offline in the next 18 months), most of our energy comes from out of state now, which almost doubles the cost.
@@boostindc2
That's only for distributing the energy to you. You need to add 10-15 cents to that for a total electric charge. Then you need to add all the fees on top of that- 5 dollar rate increase just approved and then the 30 dollar increase approved in January.
Because pg&n is with newsom and they are both corrupt and taking advantage of us the people. Start thinking twice on who you vote for
PGE are crooks that's why.
We’re only in March, how can they get away with another rate hike?
Newsom and government officials allow this
Monopoly
" non partisan think tank in the Bay area" what a sick joke that statement is!
cheaper to maintain they say, a new battery costs 20k + and will likely not last longer than 10 years , a rebuilt engine for a mid 2000's japooneeze 4 banger , with rebuilt transmission, installed for under 6k and can last much longer than 10 years. even with all the other things that wear out on a car, its sure is hard to justify the cost of buying and owning an EV.
Also consider depreciation in value, why Hertz got rid of theirs.
@@antonlogunov1936 Hertz got rid of theirs because repair expenses were higher since rentals are abused more.
Eh, you're putting gas vehicles in an unfavorable light. EVs don't need oil changes, timing belts/chains, serpentine belts, spark plugs, water pumps, various gasket replacements, fluid replacements, torque converter or clutch replacements, smog checks, etc etc. And the notion that you would have to replace the EV battery is ridiculous. Yes, it might not hold as much of a charge as it used to, but that doesn't mean it needs to be replaced.
@@alejandroherrera5271 EVs batteries are too temperamental to say they can last twenty years without replacement. In a high usage scenario with cheap electricity, EVs win but in something that is low usage over many years, gas/diesel age better. There is no inexpensive way to service an EV battery like there is with an oil burner. A 40 year old car that was never used just needs rubbers changed and fluids changed, doubtful you can say that for a parked ev. EVs are the future no doubt but they have a long way to go on battery improvements.
if cheaper to maintain why hertz sold all ev?
The criminals in this company should be in prison! Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺
Hybrid or plug-in hybrids make the most sense.
Toyota Camry hybrid - 675 mile range. Refuels in 4 minutes.
@@user-vx7vi3vq1cMy personal Toyota bZ4X. 252 miles of range. Stays topped up at home and I can add extra miles while doing grocery shopping or at the mall.
My point is that everyone has a different use case scenario. For some, a hybrid is better. For others, a plug in vehicle fits the needs. One is not better than the other, and it all depends on your daily driving routine as well as your ability to charge at home.
Toyota Prius, 10.5 gallon tank, cost is just ~$50 to fill, can be refueled in 3 or 4 minutes, and then you get you nearly 600 miles of range!
@@AkioWasRight $32.50 where I live.
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c That doesn't sound like California.
It is now cheaper at Tesla's Superchargers than at home for charging and that you can expect the rates to rise. Never mind PG&E $2.2 billions in profit. Greedy SOBs.
Tesla Energy is gonna change everything. Big oil is already taking a hit and up next is the power companies. So they try to scare everyone with FUD about EVs.
Actually, Tesla charges $0.50/kWh at a fixed rate. That's about the average of the on and off peaks from the utility.
So, supercharging at on-peak is actually cheaper, but then off-peak hours will cost you more than the utility.
@@AkioWasRightnot true. Many superchargers have time of use pricing, which can fluctuate between high 50c/kWh peak to as cheap as 0.22c/kWh off peak.
@@fred-chang Whoops, you might be right. I was reading a note that had nothing to do with supercharging rates here in California. I take what I said back.
People need to keep their eyes on the ball: why is PG&E price hike justifiable? It impacts everyone, not just EV owner.
Because people vote for the wrong leaders
PG&E mismanaged it infrastructures for years. And, now raising rates couple times a year to foot the bills onto its customers. A publicly traded company that doesn’t work.
PGE is a crook.
So glad I updated the fleet (2) with hybrids and not dumb electric cars
For some, a hybrid is better. For others, a plug in vehicle fits the needs. One is not better than the other, and it all depends on your daily driving routine as well as your ability to charge at home. My Kia Niro EV has a 253 mile range. I do not drive 253 miles every day. I’m not necessarily an EV proponent, but it does fit my lifestyle so that’s why I got one. There’s options. I hate the notion that EVs are dumb or bad because for many people, they work.
Owning an EV isnt much cheaper than gas powered considering the high upfront cost of buying the EV and auto insurance.
Its all fun and games till your battery blows up in 5 years and you have to buy a 20k battery
@@doublem6027most manufacturers give battery 10yr warranty
You damn right !
A Prius or Corolla hybrid will only cost you about $40-$50 to go 500 miles. To charge something like a Bolt at even a discounted rate will easily cost that much, and that doesn't even include the basic daily service fee. There actually is no savings.
I totally agree. The Corolla Hybrid is one of the most fuel efficient hybrid out there and it is even cheaper than the new Prius. It feels more comfortable as well riding in it. Just bought my wife a new Lexus NX hybrid and it is amazing in fueling saving vs her old RX350 V6.
Hybrid Prius vs an EV, Prius win in California due to the excessive electric rate hikes. Only way to have an EV and come out ahead is to have solar PV in California even with NEM3.
The genuine winner is Toyota corolla Hybrid. It is not expensive car, good milage, difficult to broken, nice room and incredible big trunk (compare with Tesla truck).
You won't come out ahead. Solar won't provide enough power to charge an electric car overnight. You'll need a battery storage system + the solar. That's tens of thousands of dollars. Even then, you'll still have a daily minimum service charge from the grid.
@@AkioWasRight That's not correct. I don't need battery storage for charging a car because I have net metering. If no net metering, you might be correct though it depends on the size of the system. A 4KW system would be enough to exclusively charge a Tesla to drive 15K miles per year. (4.5MWH in my experience)
@@imzjustplayin You're still connected to the grid, which means they can still jack up prices and charge you all sorts of fees.
Also, what if you can't charge during the day? There's no solar power at night, you know? And net metering probably doesn't provide you much return because the mid-day power is often overcapacity.
But really, I don't see a way of getting head. Never mind the storage battery or the electric car, the panels themselves are expensive. I can buy a lot of gas for the price of a solar panel set.
@@AkioWasRight everything you say shows you know too little to understand the benefit of going solar. If being connected to the grid is more expensive than going off grid with batteries, then that is what people will do but we're not at that point yet. I have solar pv so I know the benefits. Average bill is -$1000 per year since I over produce. I'm paid $0.10 per kwh of over production.
The slide at 1:25 that a Tesla costs $32 to drive 506 miles is incorrect. I get about 4 miles per kWh on my Tesla, so driving 506 miles uses 126 kWh. My current PGE bill charges ~$0.50/kWh which costs $63.
Depends on your pge plan and when you charge your EV. Can go down to $0.25-0.40 / kWh.
Redwood City charges more than the gas equivalent to use their public chargers
there is a cost break-even point between owning a gas car vs electric car. if you live in cities covered by PG&E hikes, you could be paying 30-45 cents per kwH. the whole EV proposition is for the buyer to pay more upfront for the same class/quality of a gas car to realize the savings over time. therefore, in a rising energy environment you eat the additional costs making the EV less appealing.
At $0.45 / kWh, it's actually more expensive to charge an EV than it is to fuel a small hybrid car. There is no breakeven, it's just cost on top of cost for the entire EV ownership.
Buy a Corolla Hybrid, cost just about $24,000. With 500 miles of range and $50 fuel up, you'll breakeven before you even start driving.
@@AkioWasRight Prius prime is probably the optimal car to buy right now. 40 miles of EV range if you can find cheap charging at work, and if you can't it still gets 50 MPG on gasoline. Either way, you win.
@@mikeydude750 Yes, if you can find cheaper charging.
@@AkioWasRight At $0.45 / kWh, you don't need to compare with hybrid. Any gasoline only car with >32MPG will beat EV on per mile cost even at today's gas price.
They’re getting everyone hooked on getting EVs with the cheap charging and rebates. Eventually, they’ll significantly up the cost to charge and gas will be cheap. Classic case of bait and switch.
PGE charges 50 cents per kwh on average. The most efficient EV drives 4 miles per kwh, which means 8 kwh or $4 per 32 miles. Today's gas prices at Costco is $4, you know how many gas cars can drive more than 32 MPG. And the gas price could drop to $2 based on recent history. Did PGE ever reduce their rate?
Great thinking. I look at things similarly, cost per kwh. You bring a really important reality point to this dialogue. Thanks for sharing.
Gas where I live is 3.25
@@user-vx7vi3vq1cgo to any free state and it’s in the low $2 a gallon
You have to keep in mind that EV efficiency ratings don't factor in phantom and charging efficiency loses. That's about 10-20% on top of your driving consumption.
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c You must not live in California then. Your electricity is probably also way cheaper.
So much for saving money and having EV rebates😣😣😣
A electric car with a computer dashboard can be electronically hijacked. Don't buy a Tesla and keep using a gas powered vehicle without a computer master board.
Disconnect cellular radio, low risk of that. Most people drive fuel injected cars which are computer controlled.
@@imzjustplayinWow…the ignorance. The computer controlling fuel injection isn’t connected to any wireless source.
There's still EMPs and the risk of forced gas station closures. If you really want to protect yourself, buy a mechanically injected diesel engine. It'll will survive the apocalypses on any kind of oily fuel.
Where are the dead batteries going? Where are all the tires that will need to be replaced faster going to end up? More questions than answers, as we look at distracting cellphone laws, and EV's are one massive working computing tablet as a dashboard. You're doing more harm than good with electric vehicles but how come this only coming to light now?
Time nationalize PG&E. Two great hikes this year so far and it’s only the beginning of March.
They'll be yanking us out of our EVs and raping us in the highway medians for ransom by winter.
Cost of battery and electricity to charge it over the batteries lifetime is much higher than the cost of a gas tank and the fuel to fill it over the gas tanks lifetime. Unless you live in LA or NY where you are taxed all the way up to $6 a gallon. And that's just because of the hidden taxes, not because fuel is actually that expensive.
It is only a matter of time before California starts taxing EV drivers per mile to make up for the loss of gas tax revenue.
Glad I was not interested in buying an EV right now.
If you include depreciation in value, it costs MORE to own an EV
Actually I'm on PG&E EV Rate. My off peak rate is 34.5 cents per kwh wich equates to 10 cents per mole for my 2023 Tesla Model S Plaid. Several hybrids get over 50 mpg. Current gas price in my area of Northern California is $4.50 per gallon. At 50 mpg the cost per mile is 9 cents per kwh. The Camry Hybrid and Prius along with several others get better than 50 mpg. By the way when I purchased my first Tesla in 2014 the off peak price was 12.7 cents per kwh. Peak EV rate is now over 60 cents per kwh in the summer.
When I own a business, and something goes out in my business, shouldn’t I have saved over the years to have a little savings, to fix the equipment myself or should I jack up the prices and make the consumers pay?
Because I thought I was supposed to save my money and invest back into my business. I didn’t know I should just rip off the consumer and expect for them to pay for the investment in my business…👀
The PG&E EV off-peak charging plan is now $.34578/KWH. My Tesla M3/LR averaged 4.0 miles per KWH. For every 100 miles driven, I used approx. 25 KWH x $0.34578 = $8.6445. Now, if you drive a hybrid averaging 47 MPG, you use 2.12 gallons of gas at $4.35/gal = $9.25. The EV saves $0.61 in this equation. My Tesla was also $15K more than the hybrid, and it costs $900 more a year to insure. It's not more cost-effective to drive an EV people; it's just fun to drive. I drive 22K miles a year. It's not about how much I can save at the pump on each fill-up, it's how much can I save over the entire year. If my job allowed me to charge for free, I would drive EV forever.
It’s also cost to park your Tesl, as it looses 5% of charge a day for no reason.
Seriously?
Not really but if you say so 😂
That's a phantom drain, but it sounds excessive. Do you live in a hot or cold climate? In a mild climate condition, it should be about 1% a day.
I charge my Tesla at my San Francisco home for a PGE cost of $0.50 per kWh. This PGE electricity costs more than a super charger. Fortunately, I also have a 9 kw Solar panel system (costing ~$21K after tax credit) on my roof and in cloudy San Francisco I estimate that I will get about 10,000 kwh per year. So all my electric costs including charging my Tesla are covered and the return on investment per year is 25%.
If I'm plugging 🔌 up my electric vehicles three or four or more a week 🤔 how is this cheaper then gas
The more electric vehicles get on the road we will see the cost at home, restaurants, office, jobs . There no saving for the average American in the future.
Not only the electricity charges/insurance - but some states are increasing their license fees for EV vehicles - because they (the state) are NOT getting their tax dollars from fuel sales and THEY say the EV vehicles weigh more and are tearing up the roads more. What's tearing up the roads in MIchigan is snow and ice along with 80 ton sand trucks. But we need to go electric.
San Jose Electricity rate is $0.85 per k/W (PG&E delivery + SJCE generation) @ peak and $.68 per k/W (PG&E + SJCE) @ off-peak. If I drive 300 miles in a Mazda CX5 @ 30MPG, it will cost ~$42.5 with gas @ $4.25. It will cost ~ $53 in my Bolt EUV to drive the same miles if I only charge during off-peak. ...................... 300 /3.8 kW/h = 78.9 kW x .68 = $53.65.
I like how the media uses PG&E ‘s BS. How much percentage has the cost of electricity been raised. $50 for an “average “ customer is MEANINGLESS! Has it gone up 30% this year? Then it will cost 30% more to charge a car……..
Meanwhile over here with a non-profit electric provider (SMUD, also California), I am still saving hundreds, if not thousands a year in gas savings.
It's the privatization of what should be municipality owned utilities that is the issue. All utilities should be non-profit, including internet.
Average Americans, realistically, need an all-in approach to energy. Most people cannot afford this expensive new tech, though it is the darling of environmentalists, it is not feasible on an ordinary income.
California used to have some of the lowest electricity rates in the country.
So what is PG&E rate per KWH.Under 12 cents here in Alabama!
In San Mateo, charging off-peak at home costs 10% more than gas. Charging during peak at a Supercharger is 20% cheaper than gas. Off-peak Supercharger is 60% less than gas. This is based on the Charge Stats in my Tesla app. 506 miles costs $80 for me. Maybe it'd cost $32 if I went to a Supercharger at 1AM every other night... and never used A/C.
500 miles can you be more realistic. he should’ve estimate it based on daily commute of average 8-5 person which probably drive about 220miles (back and forth) and see how much youll save per month
The pge rate in the Bay Area is $0.49/KWH and up depending on the tier. It’s only going to go higher
It’s only the beginning. At an average rate increase of 12% per year will make EVs more expensive in four years to operate vs ICE. NOTHING can stop PG&E from enjoying the good relationship with the PUC.
Ok, electric cars are cool. Charging is an inconvenience if you live in an apartment complex with no chargers. You have to pay monthly for your car note. You have to pay at least 20% more in insurance. Also CA has ran out of $7500 electric rebates.
I would imagine once everyone has electric cars that they would be able to identify what object is getting the electricity and therefore if you're using electric car they could possibly charge you normal like gas prices in the future
Rising utility rates affect more than just EVs. They accelerate _overall inflation_ because the cost of operating a business (of all types) goes up and those costs get passed on to the consumer.
For homeowners and even businesses though, it's all the more reason to get rooftop solar. Solar & EV combination will recoup capital cost of the solar panels even faster than normal.
Yeah, EV's are another fad. Anyone remember when they first came out with cable TV and they boasted "no commercials" and all the swearing you could handle? Look what happened. My cable bill is over $300 per month with annoying commercials. Every company finds a way of screwing up a good thing for money.
you get who you VOTE FOR!!! keep voting DNC!!!
😂get u trapped then raised the rates 😂Knew that was coming
What about the people live in apartments and don't have access to chargers at home? They'd have to drive to a supercharger station and wait about 30 minutes for a full charge. That wait time makes charging an EV more expensive than filling up a tank of gas in just 5 minutes.
California already thinks renters should just be ground into dirt - if you don't own a home here you're worthless to the state.
Funny that supercharging is cheaper now. But I rather not ruin my battery and charge overnight.
Home solar. This month I paid $30 for electricity not including a $10 connection fee. So for $40 a month charging on average every three days . 24kWh X 10 240 kWh for month +- . 4800 kw system Full disclosure $59 a month for solar finance. Have to write a check and be done with that. 2.99% Apr. my kWh rate $.14. Average. A tiny bit lower off peak. EVs have gotten stupid expensive to insure in the last couple years. Add that in and with out free charging to do long distant travel it becomes a bit of a tough act to sell, or buy. M two cents…. San Antonio, Texas
BLACK OUTs hahaha R COMING hahahaha
It's going to be even worse than people think since they are taking our last nuclear plant offline in the next year or so.
EV owner needs to pay the gas tax too they have NOT been paying these taxes made for road repairs but use and damage the resources gas car owners paid to maintain.
It is not surprising all the money for education, road infer structure need to coming from somewhere. We have two options raising property tax or raising EV charging fee.
The think tanks calculation seems to be deprived of reality as my tesla for example which suppose to get 300 miles on 100% charge (which you only suppose to charge to 90%) cant make it from Sunnyvale to Sacramento and back which is about 240 miles (I will get to Sacramento with around 30% left) from my house so if I start at 0 and charge all the way (which takes roughly 45 min) I will need to do that twice. at 75 kWh at average price today which is around 0.41 cents (used to be around 0.20 2 yeas ago) the first charge alone will be $30.75 plus the second charge even if we say half of that its still around $45 and they are saying it will cost you $32 for 500 miles that seems a bit devoid of reality.
Sounds like PS&E is trying to put itself out of business. Keep going, and see how many put solar on their roofs and batteries to capture the excess and charge their EVs.
The current night-time EV rate is equivalent to $4.25 per gallon (calculated in the same vehicle, a Toyota Prime). Discount gas is already cheaper than EV charging at home. This is before the already approved rate increase. Do the math. This does not even include the extra DMV that EVs already pay. Vote for new leadership in California, the trends are not good on most everything.
I'm keeping my Prius.
Charing an EV takes a while to charge and not convenient. You have to plan your trips and make sure you can make it there and hope the chargers are available and working. Rather just pump gas and not have to worry. There's not enough chargers for all the EVs out there.
The new Camry gets 51mpg, so you’ll need to adjust the numbers.
Ok, it is still cheaper with EV than Prius. But the EV is much more expensive. What other considerations?
I already felt this problem more a decade ago. Lol
From Silicon Valley.
What are you guys taking about? Cali EV $/mile is higher than compatibility gas/non plug in hybrid, by as much as 50%. Coming from someone with S 85D before and now plug in hybrid
Y’all keep buying them electric cars and see
More factors to consider between Expenses for the two.
Add solar, get a home battery, buy the EV......Hopefully everyone can see they will get your money no matter what.
Who would have thought?,🤔
And hybrid is lot more expensive and there are other ICE vehicles that are close to hybrid’s MPG
The new Prius gets 57 mpg in the city. What “regular” gas car does that?
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c2024 Prius (cheapest) is over $30,000.
EPA rating is 52 MPG.
Car and Driver observed 45 MPG
2024 Honda civic is $24,000
2024 Chevrolet Trax $20,400
2024 Kia Soul $20,000
2023 Nissan Versa $15,900
$10,000 ~ $15,000can buy you lot of Gas with little less MPG
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c 2024 Prius Observed 45 MPG per Car and Driver. EPA rated @ 52 MPG. cheapest Prius is$30,000 +. Try again
why people get greenwash by the left? EVs are not cheaper to maintain, today's ICE are so reliable, problems with cars these days are electronic issues, resale value of ICE cars are better too.
Toyota Camry hybrid - 675 mile range. Refuels in 4 minutes.
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EV'S cost more to buy, repair, insure, and maintain. Resale value?
Since 2020 PGE has an increasing record number of disconnects & yet Einsteins continue voting Democrat? Falling on your own sword is an addiction. ❤️🙏
Nobody saw that coming… just kidding.
If you go to the tesla forums, you will see that the average is 3 to 4 miles per kwh.
The correct math would be 506 miles / 4 miles per kwh = 126 khw. My friend is paying 0,44 / kwh in the bay are with the ev plan, so it costs him $55 to drive 506 miles.
That’s the cool thing about Tesla owners. They can lie their asses off on the Internet and dummies believe them.
Why bring PG&E rate with electic cars. I, the poor, don't own electric car but still have to pay the high rate
People doesn't realize how important this point is. If EV demand drives up rate prices, that rate increase isn't applied to just EV owners, it's spread to everyone and everything that uses their grid.
Some people are paying THOUSANDS more per year in higher power rates than they were not long ago. The increase alone is more than what we're paying in total for gasoline each year.
It's cheaper to buy gas then charge a battery.. omg....
Hope those that got an EV tax break put that $ aside for the electricity they're about to pay for.
🤣🤣🤣 CAP!!! They can say what they want gas and electric are almost the same price
Electric cars cost thousands more don't act stupid especially since you conveniently left that fact out until the last second.
Funny thing is y'all have to charge ur EV alot and if u don't u have to stop and charge every 30mins plus Lol but not gas people in 5mins or so and ur out whole day no gas again
Missinformation
So ?
so stfu? don’t comment if u have nothing to add
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The corporations need there profits not matter what .
And consumers need their Teslas which are the most reliable and the safest production cars ever produced in the history of automobiles, fact.
WRONG! In 2022 JD Powers rated Telsa as the second worst car brand for reliability. The data is from Tesla owners who reported 242 problems per 100 cars.
@@user-vx7vi3vq1creliability and crash rating are two different things . The complaints are mainly build quality
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Tesla is the best car company ever no gas stations no oil changes no smog check no corrupt dealerships no catalytic converter no dealer mark up above MSRP!
everyone copied their interior design with the tablet
Why would anyone WANT to copy that garbage tablet interior? Tablets in cars suck!!
You still have to service a Tesla, and it's not exactly cheaper. You don't have markups, but the cars are much more expensive in general. As for interior design, Tesla's interiors are horrible. No buttons, no switches, no stalks, absolutely horrible for driving. We ban cell phones for driving, but Tesla makes their entire cars function like a cell phone. It makes no sense and is bad for driver safety.
I got my brand new TESLA 40k out the door. I Love it charge it at home during non peak hours don't be a dumb
😆😅🤣😂😀😃😄😛😜😝🙄🤔Unplug your Tesla
Should've included hybrids in the study. US is not ready for EVs, won't be for another 50-100 years.
As I said in another comment, hybrids are the same or cheaper. With the average CA gas price, A Prius or Corolla hybrid will only cost you about $40-$50 to go 500 miles. Something like a Bolt EV would easily cost as much, and that's at a lower rate price. If you charge at higher on-peak price, you can pay double the amount to charge a Bolt.