Yeah, not to mention that paying for 3 different streaming services just to see a handful of shows you are interested in is ridiculous. This is one of the few cases where competition hurts customers.
Companies aren't listening to Valve with the whole, "service difficulties, not price difficulties" argument. There's a good reason Valve is doing so well despite being primarily a distributor... Fuck region locking.
Companies should really take cues from Gabe Newell: "One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue. The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates."
Exhibit A: Spotify and other music streaming services. Barely anyone pirates music anymore, because you can access everything from a single service, for a single subscription.
@@gokiburi-chan4255 That's just you. I too live in a 3rd world country, and started buying games when it becomes so convenient that risking my security (both in terms of law and pc) is no longer worth it.
Honestly, these streaming services are making piracy look more and more attractive again. When a product like this has to exist, it's really telling about how stupid these streaming services have become and it's sad.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 never said not to blame Disney and the like, just that things like this and the sheer number of streaming services out there, make piracy attractive again and it's sad.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 are they required by law to have a different selection in each county they operate, and make exclusivity deals for certain shows and markets?
@@thewhitefalcon8539 i would assume it's the distributors that push for deals that mean 3 countries have the show on Netflix 2 have it on hbo and so on. The creators don't really win anything on the fact distributors can boast with 'only on..' except that they are willing to pay more for the privilege
The way I see it, streaming companies have 2 options: 1) they turn a blind eye to vpns and region unlocking devices and I pay for their service. 2) they don’t allow region unlocking and I pirate their content and don’t pay for their service. Vote with your wallet and don’t pay for bad services.
It’s not the streaming service, it’s the partners. Numbers made up for affect. Say in 2017-2018, Netflix had 1m USA streamers watch universal films, so in 2020 universal ask Netflix for $10m a year based on those #s. Let’s just say Japanese views use USA vpn and that number now looks like 30m views so now universal ask for $30m a year. That why Netflix has a vested interest in streaming. That and some specials get a bonus based on viewership
Yup. I'm somewhere in the middle. I pay for Netflix, but if there is something region blocked, I just pirate it without the slightest remorse. After all, I've already paid for it.
Not only that. I'm an expat and I still have an interest in watching the streaming news from the Public Television of my original country, cause my family lives there, and I have to find myself geo-blocked by the public television, which doesn't even have an income.
@@razemix I don't have a problem with piracy and do it myself, but you didn't actually pay for it if it's not available in your country. The reason is with licensing and that the streaming services don't have the rights to distribute to you so you didn't pay for it.
This wouldn't be an issue if media outlets weren't doing their best to exploit consumers. It's very difficult to wrap my head around the idea of how a service that costs no more to deliver to one region or another can not only cost different prices but may be unavailable entirely. This sort of invented supply and demand disconnect is hard to take seriously, but when you have billions of dollars to throw at it, fairness is just a word we use with children.
It doesn't cost them anything, it's the copyright laws that don't allow them to stream the same content in another country, but that's fine because at the end of the day someone will stream pirated movies instead of using their service so they might wake up and realize that it hurts them in the long run
I'm not sure it's that simple. Cost of living can be different between different countries, along with the potential spending money people living there have. I always understood regional pricing as being about "if we asked them to pay the equivalent of what we ask Americans to, no one here could afford it/would buy it". Doesn't mean the American prices are overpriced, necessarily. Just that the lower prices in other places are underpriced, but since it costs nothing to deliver like you pointed out, getting some customers for less than the service's value is better than no customers for no income at all. And of course the whole reason for region-locking in addition to regional pricing is that it's illegal for these services to provide you something they have no license or rights to provide to you, because the licenses and laws for that are all by country, not global. Even if they're not technically breaking the law by letting people use VPNs, that's still gonna lead the companies they license content from to pull out and blacklist Netflix, since they only paid for the rights to distribute in certain jurisdictions, but are allowing anyone with a VPN to bypass that. Yeah, these services aren't particularly ethical companies themselves, but they're not the reason for region locking. The blame rests pretty much entirely on government and license-holders; the outlets have pretty much nothing to do with this, but everyone gives them flak instead of the people responsible.
@@cynthius6567 The first paragraph doesn't really make sense, server costs, marketing, employing people in the said regions etc. Cost money, great example is Russia Spotify vs US, Russians make 600$ per 1million streams because their subscription is like 2.50$ a month while US Spotify nets the artist 4000$ per million streams
@@omgmico I'm... confused. My first paragraph was addressing the fact that, as you just said, Russians pay less for Spotify because they can't afford as much for it: their standards of income and spending are far lower, so Spotify can't charge the equivalent of $2.50 US if they want to make optimal profits. What doesn't make sense? If you're selling a luxury for a day's worth of pay in America, why would you demand that same price in a country where it's a month's worth of pay? You wouldn't get any sales. That's why regional pricing exists.
The problem is more related to getting a method of paying for a foreign service. You need an USA address , but also a creditcard with an USA address. Prepaid card options are stricter to get them, and they are also blocked a lot of times. Look at what Amazon Germany is doing to Dutch customers (for years there wasn't a Dutch Amazon, so we were using the Germany one. When the Dutch Amazon launched last year, they blocked new account registrations for the Germany one to Dutch residents. While the Amazon NL content is empty, the shop as very little stock or even listed and the prices are different). There are actually German people selling prime accounts to Dutch residents). Anyway, this all rings in my head as 'I am doing a lot of effort and paying a lot of money for a service that can be blocked at any given time'. It's just not worth it to me. I have a VPN for when I'm forced to use a unsecured wifi access point at places, that's all.
I love hearing about stuff like this. All this geoblocking nonsense is bs and the consumers will always find a way around it, even if we have to pirate it.
@Suzy Turquoise Blue It only means you dont have every country as your resources. Maybe your imagination is just too big on when I said slowing but thats usually only means scraping which where your godly torrent will be like in few hours and already available on every resources, It only means they will still take time but not as fast as before.
geoblocking is not the issue. Licenses are the issue. if content owners wouldn't be so greedy and sell the rights to their media by country and region, we'd be fine. Some content owners are not greedy and just say that they won't license their content outside of their home country (think BBC). Most media broadcasters don't broadcast all content in all countries at the same time... As a result, Netflix may have a show in the USA but another provider may have it in the UK. Libraries around the world will never match.
I have a Jackery 500 and it's great! I recommend you buy some other brand's panels and use an adapter. They charge a crazy price, like $300 for rugged 100w panels
@@robertcrawshaw9978 "Crime doesn't pay" is such an outdated term. Basically anyone making good money or is a US politician uses crime to get ahead compared to those who don't
I remember pirating things when I was a poor kid. I then stopped pirating because I had money and it was easier to stream things. Now, it's so confusing to find where to watch things, that I'm back to pirating almost everything again...
There was no need to pirate anything when I was a kid. Everything was broadcast for free on TV. Now they put all their best shows on streaming services. Although there was no Internet so there was no Internet piracy.
@Fugp Basis Why do you get so upset at people pirating things? You've made tons of comments elsewhere in this comments section, one of which is literally wishing death on people who download things for free. I just can't understand that level of insanity for something so mild. Especially considering most piracy is literally just not giving multibillion dollar corporations who abuse their employees more profit, I can at least kind of understand being mad at people who pirate indie stuff cause that actually does cause some harm to indie developers.
@@greenfloking agreed, ubisoft and ea games of recent feels like a rip off even for a pirated copy and note piracy isn't illegal everywhere in the world, some places it's rare to find legit stuff and for people living in places where there's no data caps, the repacks with 50% reduced file sizes are a godsend.
It's a useful device, especially if you want to stream Netflix on your TV, where it can be harder to force the traffic through a VPN. But like you highlighted in this video, Netflix already found a way to block this device. It's working again now, but I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before they block it again 🤷♂️
Netflix already blocking it doesn't bode well. The fact is you've entire FAANG engineering divisions with unlimited resources working on blocking this and a track record of succeeding against similar previous services. Versus whatever a startup of
I was all on board with this being a great simple and user-friendly solution to a fairly common issue as an 85 dollar device. But a subscription fee on top of it is a deal-breaker, especially since they are definitely selling your data. That makes the fee unreasonable. Plus the fact that Netflix already broke it and patched it previously... How is it gonna pay for itself when the major streaming services block it the day after you buy it and you just bought an 85 dollar brick for your network?
Almost 6 bucks per month is also a LOT, you're already paying for very mediocre hw (and no, you can't just do 7*12=84 so you get it for a couple bucks). Imo 2-3$ per month would be a fair price for this. It's not like they're the ones routing all the traffic. No, I'm not asking them to make it free. It's clear they put in effort to make it work. I really hate how Linus is like lmao btw it's subscription based at the very end. Very bait-and-switchy.
Agreed. Most TV is garbage anyway. Someone [like myself] with a world view of most TV is garbage, will likely view quality content as treasure. Hand me my cutlass lad, it is life on a corsair for me arrgh
Oh don't worry, you don't have to dispose of it. Because according to their TOS "When you buy the service we will send you a router to enable the service. This router belongs to us, at the conclusion of your service we may ask you to return the router at your expense.
“Our viewers aren’t going to accept magic as an explanation for how a device on their network functions” Oh Linus, you highly overestimate my ability to resist the appeal to authority fallacy
Appeal to authority fallacy is mainly an issue when there is an appeal to false-authority (or someone who may authoritative in one area but not in the topic being discussed). As a tech reviewer, Linus has some of trustworthiness and authority on this topic especially since would likely retract his views given contradictory new findings.
@@Neonim true, though appealing to any kind of authority as an argument for evidence falls under the appeal to authority fallacy because even those who know better than most can be wrong
I mean, it's a little more than just a DNS since it's also analyzing the kind of request more than just DNS to capture the packets from apps and embedded software that are not making DNS requests, plus it's also doing static external paths which is something a pihole doesn't do and can't do unless you're also running a routing software on your raspberry pi. This however, would be perfectly possible on something like PFsense, opnsense, or openWRT (which they're already using) and I want to be able to run it on my PFsense box without having to buy their hardware.
@@thegriningnumber12 It's definitely possible to make a Pi version, or even an installable package for openwrt routers. Since it's a subscription based service ($7/month), they wouldn't be losing money. However those 2 niche DIY markets are tiny compared to the massive consumer market that just wants a plug, click and play solution. Still, in light of the 2021 global chip supply shortage, another option using existing hardware could be beneficial in the short term.
“Pay for itself” with the huge asterisk that’s its another ~$100 a year and has no guarantee that it keeps working. Oh and the content on the other end isn’t free either, so German UFC might be cheaper but you still have to find a way to make a German UFC account. And spend enough per year to make that worth it.
Here in Mexico (and Latin America) UFC and boxing PPV are streamed on Star+, Wich cost like 8 us/month, So if you don't pay for just 2 PPV you can afford that white magic router. Also creating a Mexican account isn't that hard for an American or Canadian.
How is the quality though? Furthermore isn’t it much harder to get non English content? Never been an eyepatch wearing guy before, but my Parrot is ready.
I've been using a range of DDNS services for years. Netflix and many other apps don't work with them, even though browsers do. I'd love to hear more about the differences here. i.e. the i.p. forwarding.
U don’t need to buy a device, it’s just smart dns Edit: good smart dns can do it by app. My DAZN is Canada,Netflix USA, ppv Germany etc. you can also set this up at the router level. Change your d.n.s to the “smart dns”. The only reason you’d want this extra router is if you use a goofy smart tv like he said. Btw, it’s a cat and mouse game. Netflix still sees the address ip the smart dns is giving them. Once this blows up, Netflix will block those ip’s
Depends on how many IP they have, I'm thinking if they had proxy endpoint severs added into the router, in which case it ends up being as many endpoints as there are users that are infringing basically leading to the IP address being so numerous it'd be hard to block without tons of collateral damage to non-infringing users, add in the fact that most residential IPS reset every week it would be basically impossible to have an effective solution. Idk but that's just me spitballing I don't use any paid streaming service (other then UA-cam premium) so I don't have a hat in the ring here
I dougth that smart tv/custom apps skipp the dns. Maybe they use dns over http like firefox does nowdays, but they cant just hardcode their ips. I think all that this router does can be done on any router with custom firmware. But you need the time to set it up and especially keep it up to date if some service changes something up. I mean they can always just block the Proxy IPs if they want to. But that might also kick users that use that proxy but life in the country.
@@jaykoerner that would be using other people's internet and letting other people use yours, a big no no. You would be forwarding other peoples traffic through your ISP, they could be doing literally anything illegal, be completely protected and have you take the fall.
@@s.i.m.c.a they can’t do THAT. But by the end of 2022 all this will stop. Services are changing t.o.s and apps to be region specific. Ie when you sign up, it will be “Netflix Europe” for example. Only androids will be able to defeat this along with smart dns as iOS only allows you to dl your regions app
I think ppl at Netflix can afford to buy one, track what its doing and block that within minutes, if the so choose to. Tbh no point in using any of these... Netflix OWN shows is the reason to sub. And those are same everywhere at the same time. I can get HBO MAX with ~same price of this fucking things monthly payments. Well, in 2 weeks, when it launches here. So whats better, bit more stuff on Netflix or HBO MAX ?
@@PeTe_FIN Well some things, even if you know how they work are hard or almost impossible to block. Everybody can see how encryption works, yet you currently are not able to decrypt it.
Ok so you posed that it couldn't be a software solution because you couldn't use other devices on it -- but isn't this something that you could run software on a PiHole to do? I realize it's more setup, but this already has setup and people already running PiHoles wouldn't shy away
Also, the thing is $85, which includes 'service' for a year, then $7/month after. Guess what? 7*12=84. Why would I use this shitty hardware that doesn't seem to cost anything?
I already run OpenWRT on a second router, there's no reason this couldn't be distributed as firmware for a limited set of router hardware. Obviously they only have to support their one hardware configuration as it is, but I don't think the cost is remotely justified.
@@EliJayFly I guess we have to wait on people smarter than me to build this as open source.
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@@djr5759 That's already the case. Now it's about if Open Source and the "We the people" or complicated licencing and their paid developers will come out on top, if that is ever decided at all.
well you would have to think of the less tech savvy customers, yes people do have the options, but most people would want to have a simple and easy solution, regardless the cost why do people pay for VPN when they can make their own VPN then? why do people pay for software when they can make their own? because they can, and they will, they don't want the hassle
this is why piracy is so rampant. just watch whatever you want, whenever you want. if companies want people to stop pirating, make your services more accessible, rather than restricting more and more access.
and make it cheaper and don't raise prices. Netflix is perfect example of price hiking. They still offer a SD tier just so it looks 'cheap'. Who streams SD these days?
@@ZX48K Is there Netflix on phone? If so, that's a decent reason to stream SD. Not all phones are high res so it's way more tolerable on such a small screen.
@@GreatYamatanoOrochi that's a fair point actually. But I feel like 95% of phones nowadays are at the bare minimum 720p. It doesn't seem like to me that the kind of people with a super budget $30 smartphone from the grocery store would be paying for a Netflix subscription with the purpose of watching stuff on it but that's just me
@@willwunsche6940 I own a super basic Redmi 9a, $100 phone with a 720p display with an unbelievably good battery. If I cared about Netflix, I'd say that's definitely something I'd do. Don't really need an expensive phone to watch Netflix
@@nikoheino3927 no you missed the point by a mile and a half. What the guy was saying that Linus simply mentioned a jackery product in 2 videos, and then they decided to sponsor him.
@@damianxavier7343 yup, that's what i meant. But i only noticed jackery sponsoring lmg on 2 recent videos which i think are: 1.The one where they teched the hell out of a boat 2. That one about wifi for a house in a remote area
Copyright holders *aggressively* not learning the lesson that making access easier than pirating is they way to stop it, that includes removing geoblocking.
The problem is they kind of have a legal obligation to geolock due to streaming rights issues. The issue is systemic in the industry, not directly the fault of the individual streaming services.
If the StreamLocator hardware is just a whitelabel router running OpenWRT, why couldn’t they release the OpenWRT plugin separately. Ideally they could release a Docker container.
End-of-the-line software would be crappy, but I'd still far rather have software I could integrate into my dedicated gateway than have a cheap consumer hardware device in the network.
This right here is why piracy is never going away. Imagine paying something, yet companies make it extremely hard to get what you want when piracy gets you everything for free.
@asdfasdf sup, corporate anti-piracy lobbying bot, you're completely wrong, its just companies see making dumb movies/games as an easy way to make millions/billions and they aren't wrong. companies that want to make good single player games actually try and make them. same with movies. pirates has nothing to do with it. actually, the most money makes a total crap with hundreds of millions in their budget like that comics movies trash. or a total disappointment like SW7-9 from Disney. you are saying SW7-9 or stupid marvel / dc crap with bad scripts exists "partially because of piracy"? are you okay? turn your brain on and think again. games, movies, and things like Twitch/UA-cam are the way they are because people/kids/advertisers PAY FOR THAT CRAP. money talks and pirates have nothing to do with it. devs making crap games because there are TOO MANY DEVS and most of them are without imagination or writing skills. youtube is crap because there are TOO MANY UA-camRS and most of them just aren't smart enough to make better content. music is crap because there are TOO MANY CRAPPY MUSICIANS. you just can't see gems in a river of crap that is modern media, again, piracy has literally nothing to do with all of that. and also modern content just push an agenda more times than not and backed up by huge money, thats why you don't see relatable and smart content. they don't even try to make it.
@Fugp Basis "Waaaah! Pirates are entitled pieces of shit!" The product ain't worth paying what they're asking for it. The people who will pirate it, will pirate it. In the absence of piracy, they just wouldn't get the product at all.
What Linus said about a VPN putting all traffic through the tunnel is incorrect. You can use a split tunnel vpn to route specific subnets. Very common in business.
i'm just thinking about the mention how this could be done in software and do think that there should be a computer software one, since in that sense it could pretty quickly evolve into a better alternative to vpns, especially if it's user expandable
This should just be a OpenWRT software that people can flash on their existing routers... That just sounds like a money grab / wasted resources to product more redundant hardware
They're just making a wrapper for some stuff that is a bit more complicated then installing Nord or PIA and selecting a region. If it's cheap and stays cheap that's great, as long as it stays operational it's not a terrible idea.
The only reason this would be worth using is if it can't be blocked by Netflix, etc. Except since it literally already has been blocked once then it has already shown that it's not some special unblockable solution, it's just a classic cat and mouse situation where it will go between blocked and unblocked, just like any $2 VPN would.
Not the "only reason" as clearly identified in the video, it is far more flexible, although its also more expensive than a VPN if you buy multi-year deals from your VPN provider. Linus forgot to mention there is a monthly fee after the first 12 months to pay for running the proxy servers.
*The power of the darkside, truly is unlimited!* I remember playing Fallout 4 around a week before it was released, thanks to torrents... But also waiting for a year for the DRM on Rise of the Tomb Raider to be cracked, so it's got its downsides too...
@@tortugatech Yup, "We don't want to pay for 8000 channels of BS we don't want to watch because you guys figure the only way to have anyone pay for it is to bundle it with channels people do want" ... enter streaming services like Netflix ... "ooooooh, this is fantastic and exactly what I asked for, lemme watch this... " >NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR REGION< ..*sigh* "Arh HAR! I ask to be let back into ye brother hood me mateys!"
gaben for all his fault has that one thing on the money when doing stuff legally is going to be so much more pain than doing it illegally, people will find ways and justification
Since the streaming sites exploded into more than I can keep track off, I went back to the special streaming sites which let you watch them all. No VPN or special hardware requirements. Good to use a VPN still though.
Peer-to-peer file sharing, can and is still used to bring people together in a more intimate/Amateur grouping. Usually for more independent public domain film or writing works. Watching "ABC", "UFC", or "I got an STD" through file sharing is your choice, but trying to go public is not going to last. Yes there are many examples to prove two sides correct. That of the publisher/right holder, and the hacker/file bandit. There is no common ground to overcome definitively. The marketing or "common" sales is the crossroads. So you want "free tv", try Pluto or just subscribe with as monthly fee. Remember, your own money is going somewhere. P.S. Did Netflix ever invest in VPN stock?? Why all the support of VPNs, from channels in such a short time?..
I’m confused as to how this saves you any money at all? You have to buy a physical item and then still pay a subscription that’s more expensive than most VPNs?
I think it’s only applicable if you already pay for services that are priced differently from region to region. Their UFC example is quite a good one, with the price in Germany being much lower than US pricing. If that is the case for several services you use, the gains could be greater than the price of the item + subscription.
If it’s just Openwrt with some tweaks and stuff then why can’t we just set up a similar system or even dump their firmware and put it on our existing equipment?
10:00 The bad news is, that i.e. Netflix could ban you from their service as they can easily see that your account is jumping around the globe daily, so you'd be violating their terms of service.
"your account is jumping around the globe daily" - why would your account be jumping around the globe? Lets say for netflix you are in Poland, for amazon in US, for bbc in UK. None of them will see where you are for others
@@ProstoShelMimo When I used the same technology to access different shows I had to move my Netflix account around, because there is not "one country" that has every content available.
@@csolisr $70 a month to probably only use about 2-3 of them a month. Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate! Yarr har fiddle dee dee Being a pirate is alright to be Do what you want cause a pirate is free You are a pirate! You are a pirate! Yeah! - Lazy Town
These kinds of videos are why I love this channel. I'm a fan of the high seas and Plex. This would be much better since I already pay for those streaming services. I should already have access to what I pay for.
The concept of “geo locking” on anything seems so stupid and ancient. From where products can be bought. To sites delivering different content. To where you need to be sitting to stream video you pay for
One argument for geolocking is that the cost of life varies drastically depending where you live. If you look on steam db, games prices can be like 5 times lower in developing countries than in developing ones. If content providers had to assign their product one single international price, they'd probably have to pick between making the product available to everyone by making the price very low, or pick a price that's out of reach for half their customer base. In most cases they'd probably pick the second option since it would make more financial sense . Granted, this is already happening somewhat, piracy is very high in many developing countries for a reason. (don't get me wrong, I find these "this video is not available in your country" messages as infuriating as you probably do)
corporations desperately try to enforce artificial scarcity, and fail all the time. piracy always wins it is time to leave intellectual property in the dustbin of history and find another way to make sure the original creator gets their fair share
Don't most channels that put out sponsored videos by VPN providers still say that it will allow you to access region locked content and a lot of the time have a video of Netflix in the background when saying so?
It really depends on the VPN and the option you choose. Public IP addresses are not going to work, they'll get detected and blocked within a day on a major VPN. This means some VPNs offer "dedicated streaming IP addresses" which is an IP allocated purely to you, for an additional cost per month. This will generally work because it's less obvious what's actually going on and the IP is usually also from a different range of IPs (generally residental, versus commerical.)
Linus critiquing Valve Steam Deck Video: "They just said don't open it and then show us how to open it" Also Linus: "I said that it works just like a vpn but I also said before that that it's not a vpn"
Such is the world in the tyranny that is capitalism. Even when scarcity ceases to exist, commodities must be made artificially scarce for the rich parasites to steal their pound of flesh from the working people
It would be interesting adding the same feature to pihole. Enforcing the use of an hardware appliance is great for non techs, but allowing a standalone usage of the software solution is much better…
Peer-to-peer file sharing, can and is still used to bring people together in a more intimate/Amateur grouping. Usually for more independent public domain film or writing works. Watching "ABC", "UFC", or "I got an STD" through file sharing is your choice, but trying to go public is not going to last. Yes there are many examples to prove two sides correct. That of the publisher/right holder, and the hacker/file bandit. There is no common ground to overcome definitively. The marketing or "common" sales is the crossroads. So you want "free tv", try Pluto or just subscribe with as monthly fee. Remember, your own money is going somewhere. P.S. Did Netflix ever invest in VPN stock?? Why all the support of VPNs, from channels in such a short time?..
@@rexbk09 Um what? Do you really think they can stop torrents considering they haven't been able to do so for 15 years now? And no, the idea in the mass download age that torrents would last long when they contain viruses and maleware is pretty much a myth.
People can't get access content from other countries? Well, I've been sailing the seven seas for 15 years now, so I never thought that was a problem people faced.
This will get blocked by Netflix in no time. It's a game of cat and mouse, and i'll bet that the one to come out on top will be the international, 40-billion worth streaming service that has infinite R&D money.
@@adeadfishdied except that there's no way that these guys are setting up hundreds\thousands of proxy servers in each country they want to offer access to. This scheme reminds me of the old satellite piracy thing, you pay monthly for something that may or may not work at any given time. It worked back in the day because internet speeds were much lower. Legally this is different, but in terms of what the customer get's it isn't.
It costs a few bucks/euros/whatever to rent an off-site seedbox for a month. You could torrent whatever you want with essentially zero risk at blazing speeds. I don't condone it, but it guarantees that the end user will always win :)
@@adeadfishdied no, Netflix also blocks the IP range that belongs to most of the VPS provider. If you're trying to build a private VPN using cloud service provider, chances are, it won't works. Trust me, I've tried
The thing is, a software solution is no cheaper for them to maintain. You're pretty much only paying for the maintenance of the network and IP list. Though I would much rather a software solution too so I can implement it on pfSense rather than adding unnecessary extra hardware that is dramatically less powerful than my existing router.
A free crappy VPN with a WebRTC leak shielding extension has always made the trick to unlock foreign content, as for privacy (and ad removal) a nicely crafted HOSTS file makes the trick.
How does a free crappy VPN and a WebRTC leak prevention browser extension help with bypassing regional content locks on TVs, consoles and etc? Did you watch the video? That's what the device is primarily designed for. And manually adding (even with tools like HostsMan it's still pretty much manual) records to a goddamn HOSTS file sounds like such a dynosaurish approach to solving privacy/security problems, lol. (Especially if you have more that one device on the network; PSA: people, please learn setting up, configuring and monitoring Pi-Hole, *at least* Pi-Hole, it's not hard at all.)
@@icipher6730 A lot of people display on a TV from a computer, that's what HTPCs are for, you could also use a laptop and an HDMI, c'mon buddy, this is not rocket science. As for hosts, there is currently incredible sources of curated hosts files, and with hostsman is absolutelly not a hassle to manage, also, URLs don't change that much, an update a year is more than enough. This is a hardware free solution, which means 0 extra latency, and a software free solution, which means 0 performance degradation and you can tweak it instantaneously if you have issues with any webpage or software, it's also multiplatform as hosts files are standarized across all mayor OSs, Windows, Linux, Android... all compatible.
This looks like a product that could break forever a week after you buy it. It requires constant maintenance by the manufacturer to keep up with unpredictable changes by streaming services.
haven't had any problems ever using a vpn with any streaming service. So they might say that they blocked it, but it doesn't seem to be that effective.
Netflix has them all figured out from what I've seen. What VPN do you use that's capable of consistently streaming Netflix? All the ones I've tried work SOMETIMES, but it's rare to find a server that functions.
Companies : Don't allow VPN's on their site.
Users : Pirates the show
Companies : *shocked Pikachu face*
For some reason, I even pirate things that are completely free.
@@DemeDemetre I mean if I can I get it for free why pay for it, I still pirate games and movies.
Yeah, not to mention that paying for 3 different streaming services just to see a handful of shows you are interested in is ridiculous.
This is one of the few cases where competition hurts customers.
Companies aren't listening to Valve with the whole, "service difficulties, not price difficulties" argument. There's a good reason Valve is doing so well despite being primarily a distributor...
Fuck region locking.
@@kryrins Yes lol. Ever since i got decent internet I don't even look through my subscriptions and just download a film, watch and delete
Companies should really take cues from Gabe Newell:
"One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue. The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates."
Exhibit A: Spotify and other music streaming services. Barely anyone pirates music anymore, because you can access everything from a single service, for a single subscription.
I live in a 3rd world country with decent income but I still can't be bothered to buy games from steam even if they cost 2 bucks 😆
Many companies just want to be lazy though and have you keep paying full price for half-assed mediocre recycled games.
@@gokiburi-chan4255 That's just you. I too live in a 3rd world country, and started buying games when it becomes so convenient that risking my security (both in terms of law and pc) is no longer worth it.
Yeah that is why steam gives me the best prices from any region I wish... Wait...
Honestly, these streaming services are making piracy look more and more attractive again.
When a product like this has to exist, it's really telling about how stupid these streaming services have become and it's sad.
Companies like Netflix are REQUIRED BY LAW to do this... if you want to rant, rant at Disney and Universal.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 never said not to blame Disney and the like, just that things like this and the sheer number of streaming services out there, make piracy attractive again and it's sad.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 are they required by law to have a different selection in each county they operate, and make exclusivity deals for certain shows and markets?
@@TheHenirik Yes. Because content creators demand it.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 i would assume it's the distributors that push for deals that mean 3 countries have the show on Netflix 2 have it on hbo and so on.
The creators don't really win anything on the fact distributors can boast with 'only on..' except that they are willing to pay more for the privilege
The way I see it, streaming companies have 2 options: 1) they turn a blind eye to vpns and region unlocking devices and I pay for their service. 2) they don’t allow region unlocking and I pirate their content and don’t pay for their service. Vote with your wallet and don’t pay for bad services.
It's ridiculous you have to buy a piece of hardware like this just to get around geoblocks. They shouldn't exist.
It’s not the streaming service, it’s the partners. Numbers made up for affect. Say in 2017-2018, Netflix had 1m USA streamers watch universal films, so in 2020 universal ask Netflix for $10m a year based on those #s. Let’s just say Japanese views use USA vpn and that number now looks like 30m views so now universal ask for $30m a year. That why Netflix has a vested interest in streaming. That and some specials get a bonus based on viewership
Yup. I'm somewhere in the middle. I pay for Netflix, but if there is something region blocked, I just pirate it without the slightest remorse. After all, I've already paid for it.
Not only that. I'm an expat and I still have an interest in watching the streaming news from the Public Television of my original country, cause my family lives there, and I have to find myself geo-blocked by the public television, which doesn't even have an income.
@@razemix I don't have a problem with piracy and do it myself, but you didn't actually pay for it if it's not available in your country. The reason is with licensing and that the streaming services don't have the rights to distribute to you so you didn't pay for it.
Netflix: No more VPNs lol
Me: "YAR-HAR FIDDLE-DE-DEE, BEING A PIRATE IS ALRIGHT WITH ME!"
DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE PIRATING IS FREE!!!
@@KuTheKhajiit YOU ARE A PIRATE
@@lacucaracha111111 HA-HAAA! You are a pirate!
@@Chozo_Ghost It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake.... oh... wait...
Me: kizaku oni oriwa ni naru
This wouldn't be an issue if media outlets weren't doing their best to exploit consumers. It's very difficult to wrap my head around the idea of how a service that costs no more to deliver to one region or another can not only cost different prices but may be unavailable entirely. This sort of invented supply and demand disconnect is hard to take seriously, but when you have billions of dollars to throw at it, fairness is just a word we use with children.
It doesn't cost them anything, it's the copyright laws that don't allow them to stream the same content in another country, but that's fine because at the end of the day someone will stream pirated movies instead of using their service so they might wake up and realize that it hurts them in the long run
I'm not sure it's that simple. Cost of living can be different between different countries, along with the potential spending money people living there have. I always understood regional pricing as being about "if we asked them to pay the equivalent of what we ask Americans to, no one here could afford it/would buy it". Doesn't mean the American prices are overpriced, necessarily. Just that the lower prices in other places are underpriced, but since it costs nothing to deliver like you pointed out, getting some customers for less than the service's value is better than no customers for no income at all.
And of course the whole reason for region-locking in addition to regional pricing is that it's illegal for these services to provide you something they have no license or rights to provide to you, because the licenses and laws for that are all by country, not global. Even if they're not technically breaking the law by letting people use VPNs, that's still gonna lead the companies they license content from to pull out and blacklist Netflix, since they only paid for the rights to distribute in certain jurisdictions, but are allowing anyone with a VPN to bypass that. Yeah, these services aren't particularly ethical companies themselves, but they're not the reason for region locking. The blame rests pretty much entirely on government and license-holders; the outlets have pretty much nothing to do with this, but everyone gives them flak instead of the people responsible.
@@cynthius6567 The first paragraph doesn't really make sense, server costs, marketing, employing people in the said regions etc. Cost money, great example is Russia Spotify vs US, Russians make 600$ per 1million streams because their subscription is like 2.50$ a month while US Spotify nets the artist 4000$ per million streams
@@omgmico I'm... confused. My first paragraph was addressing the fact that, as you just said, Russians pay less for Spotify because they can't afford as much for it: their standards of income and spending are far lower, so Spotify can't charge the equivalent of $2.50 US if they want to make optimal profits. What doesn't make sense? If you're selling a luxury for a day's worth of pay in America, why would you demand that same price in a country where it's a month's worth of pay? You wouldn't get any sales. That's why regional pricing exists.
@@cynthius6567 I'm talking about "it costs them nothing to deliver"
This is Why Piracy always Wins
The two comments above me are posted by fucking bots
@@kxrannn.g how do I know you're not a bot?
@@aliabdallah102 spoken like a true bot attempting to act like it's not a bot
@@Real_MisterSir No human will say that. Are you a bot?
@@aliabdallah102 ok bot
"...watch anything you want was over..."
Torrents: allow us to introduce ourselves
lol
Viruses: allow us to introduce ourselves
@@CR7Ashironaldo Literally never gotten a virus from torrenting TBs worth of movies and TV shows
@@CR7Ashironaldo skill issue
@@CR7Ashironaldo if you get a virus from a video, you were asking for it
The problem is more related to getting a method of paying for a foreign service. You need an USA address , but also a creditcard with an USA address. Prepaid card options are stricter to get them, and they are also blocked a lot of times. Look at what Amazon Germany is doing to Dutch customers (for years there wasn't a Dutch Amazon, so we were using the Germany one. When the Dutch Amazon launched last year, they blocked new account registrations for the Germany one to Dutch residents. While the Amazon NL content is empty, the shop as very little stock or even listed and the prices are different). There are actually German people selling prime accounts to Dutch residents).
Anyway, this all rings in my head as 'I am doing a lot of effort and paying a lot of money for a service that can be blocked at any given time'. It's just not worth it to me.
I have a VPN for when I'm forced to use a unsecured wifi access point at places, that's all.
I love hearing about stuff like this. All this geoblocking nonsense is bs and the consumers will always find a way around it, even if we have to pirate it.
Even if ? Lol
Its usually not their fault tbh, Its most of the time your country and how hard Licensing stuffs. Also it slows down people pirating it too.
Long live the pirates of the world
@Suzy Turquoise Blue It only means you dont have every country as your resources. Maybe your imagination is just too big on when I said slowing but thats usually only means scraping which where your godly torrent will be like in few hours and already available on every resources, It only means they will still take time but not as fast as before.
geoblocking is not the issue. Licenses are the issue. if content owners wouldn't be so greedy and sell the rights to their media by country and region, we'd be fine. Some content owners are not greedy and just say that they won't license their content outside of their home country (think BBC). Most media broadcasters don't broadcast all content in all countries at the same time... As a result, Netflix may have a show in the USA but another provider may have it in the UK. Libraries around the world will never match.
Jackery sponsoring LTT like: “Hey tech people. Go touch some grass!”
Nature? Eww.
I honestly lol'd at that.
I just look at the pictures my hiking and camping friends post, and that's good enough for me.
@@MasterKey2004 just turn your head around and you'll see a massive example
I have a Jackery 500 and it's great! I recommend you buy some other brand's panels and use an adapter. They charge a crazy price, like $300 for rugged 100w panels
Linus: "Slower internet speeds" shows 400mbps
Me: with 50mbps WITHOUT VPN
You guys get double digits of speed?
@@prateekkarn9277 yea we get double digit speeds
...
*cri in 10b/min*
LOL I’m crying on my 5mbps connection
you guys getting any speed at all?
Cackles in My family slowing the 800mbps Wi-Fi down to 300 mbps.
I never had the problem of region locked content.
Piracy is the way, it always has and always will be the way.
@@robertcrawshaw9978 Alestorm, nice.
@@robertcrawshaw9978 "Crime doesn't pay" is such an outdated term. Basically anyone making good money or is a US politician uses crime to get ahead compared to those who don't
This. I dont get why the big companies WANTS us to pirate, because blocking legal access to things just incentivices piracy...
i mean you aren't wrong but
@@robertcrawshaw9978 I have Netflix subscription, yet most of the movies or shows I want to watch are not on it.
So I pirate them.
VPN: Live Action
The comment above me is posted by a bot. Fuck this
The comment above me is posted by a bot.
Fuck this
@@whydoiexist3896 actually the bot comment got removed lmao 😂
The comment above me is posted by a bot.
Fuck this
Dumbest comment section I've seen and I love it.
The good old days of Torrents. Anyways, can't wait for the video of HDMI cable comparisons.
How dumb does a bot have to get to copy a comment and reply to it with the same copied comment!!?
Linus: "Our viewers are not going to expect magic"
Me thinks Linus just called us a bunch of Muggles
You can just put a DNS into your device to redirect your traffic also some services will ban you for this like spotify.
I remember pirating things when I was a poor kid.
I then stopped pirating because I had money and it was easier to stream things.
Now, it's so confusing to find where to watch things, that I'm back to pirating almost everything again...
There was no need to pirate anything when I was a kid. Everything was broadcast for free on TV. Now they put all their best shows on streaming services. Although there was no Internet so there was no Internet piracy.
When piracy is more convenient that actually paying for stuff, you know it's the obvious answer. Only drawback to piracy was the inconvenience.
@FBI have fun in jail bud lmaooo
@Fugp Basis Why do you get so upset at people pirating things? You've made tons of comments elsewhere in this comments section, one of which is literally wishing death on people who download things for free. I just can't understand that level of insanity for something so mild.
Especially considering most piracy is literally just not giving multibillion dollar corporations who abuse their employees more profit, I can at least kind of understand being mad at people who pirate indie stuff cause that actually does cause some harm to indie developers.
@@greenfloking agreed, ubisoft and ea games of recent feels like a rip off even for a pirated copy and note piracy isn't illegal everywhere in the world, some places it's rare to find legit stuff and for people living in places where there's no data caps, the repacks with 50% reduced file sizes are a godsend.
It's a useful device, especially if you want to stream Netflix on your TV, where it can be harder to force the traffic through a VPN.
But like you highlighted in this video, Netflix already found a way to block this device.
It's working again now, but I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before they block it again 🤷♂️
Thing about tech is that there is always a way around something. So back and forth like with anything lol.
@@doomy_doomy2225 Not if Netflix just straight up bans your account.
Cat and mouse situation... you wont be able to guarantee a perfect solution that cant get blocked or stay unblocked.
If only all those hackers in warzone etc put their skills into helping the popcorn community , they always seem to be ahead of Game developers !
Netflix already blocking it doesn't bode well. The fact is you've entire FAANG engineering divisions with unlimited resources working on blocking this and a track record of succeeding against similar previous services. Versus whatever a startup of
Original title: This Product Will Pay For Itself
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@@LightningSquad and who gives a fuck?
I was all on board with this being a great simple and user-friendly solution to a fairly common issue as an 85 dollar device. But a subscription fee on top of it is a deal-breaker, especially since they are definitely selling your data. That makes the fee unreasonable. Plus the fact that Netflix already broke it and patched it previously... How is it gonna pay for itself when the major streaming services block it the day after you buy it and you just bought an 85 dollar brick for your network?
At that point you might as well use hola
You just hook onto the residential IPs that they get by providing them with vpn for „free“
Almost 6 bucks per month is also a LOT, you're already paying for very mediocre hw (and no, you can't just do 7*12=84 so you get it for a couple bucks). Imo 2-3$ per month would be a fair price for this. It's not like they're the ones routing all the traffic. No, I'm not asking them to make it free. It's clear they put in effort to make it work.
I really hate how Linus is like lmao btw it's subscription based at the very end. Very bait-and-switchy.
If you're already paying for a VPN you have almost everything you need to not pay for Netflix anyway lol
Agreed.
Most TV is garbage anyway.
Someone [like myself] with a world view of most TV is garbage, will likely view quality content as treasure.
Hand me my cutlass lad, it is life on a corsair for me arrgh
Oh don't worry, you don't have to dispose of it. Because according to their TOS
"When you buy the service we will send you a router to enable the service. This router belongs to us, at the conclusion of your service we may ask you to return the router at your expense.
Company: **blocks you due to geographic location*
Piracy: Hello there old friend
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“Our viewers aren’t going to accept magic as an explanation for how a device on their network functions”
Oh Linus, you highly overestimate my ability to resist the appeal to authority fallacy
Was going to comment the same thing. Don't flatter your viewers (and yourself by proxy), Linus. xD
Appeal to authority fallacy is mainly an issue when there is an appeal to false-authority (or someone who may authoritative in one area but not in the topic being discussed).
As a tech reviewer, Linus has some of trustworthiness and authority on this topic especially since would likely retract his views given contradictory new findings.
@@Neonim true, though appealing to any kind of authority as an argument for evidence falls under the appeal to authority fallacy because even those who know better than most can be wrong
What I would really love and actually use is this exact same concept but on a pi-hole
I was thinking the same thing it sounds like software so why not just put it on a raspberry pi
I mean, it's a little more than just a DNS since it's also analyzing the kind of request more than just DNS to capture the packets from apps and embedded software that are not making DNS requests, plus it's also doing static external paths which is something a pihole doesn't do and can't do unless you're also running a routing software on your raspberry pi.
This however, would be perfectly possible on something like PFsense, opnsense, or openWRT (which they're already using) and I want to be able to run it on my PFsense box without having to buy their hardware.
@@thegriningnumber12 It's definitely possible to make a Pi version, or even an installable package for openwrt routers. Since it's a subscription based service ($7/month), they wouldn't be losing money. However those 2 niche DIY markets are tiny compared to the massive consumer market that just wants a plug, click and play solution.
Still, in light of the 2021 global chip supply shortage, another option using existing hardware could be beneficial in the short term.
“Pay for itself” with the huge asterisk that’s its another ~$100 a year and has no guarantee that it keeps working.
Oh and the content on the other end isn’t free either, so German UFC might be cheaper but you still have to find a way to make a German UFC account. And spend enough per year to make that worth it.
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Don't forget German/Japanese/whatever sites won't let you pay on your local currency so there goes extra bank exchanging fees
Here in Mexico (and Latin America) UFC and boxing PPV are streamed on Star+, Wich cost like 8 us/month, So if you don't pay for just 2 PPV you can afford that white magic router. Also creating a Mexican account isn't that hard for an American or Canadian.
James and David fighting in the parking lot may be the greatest thing I've ever seen
Yes.
Now pay
May be? You must have seen some awesome stuff then. It definitely was for me.
@@jemma2607 how much
There's a much easier and cheaper way to watch whatever you want just by putting on an eyepatch and having a swill of rum
best comment yet
Not for live sports though.
Yar-Harr fiddle dee-dee
How is the quality though? Furthermore isn’t it much harder to get non English content? Never been an eyepatch wearing guy before, but my Parrot is ready.
@@Definitely_Melnyx ooh there's plenty of fish in the sea, even a huge one! 😉
I've been using a range of DDNS services for years. Netflix and many other apps don't work with them, even though browsers do. I'd love to hear more about the differences here. i.e. the i.p. forwarding.
Use Netflix in browser not the app
@@brandon10301991 Yeah my AppleTV and SmartTVs don't have a browser that works. Hence my curiosity.
U don’t need to buy a device, it’s just smart dns
Edit: good smart dns can do it by app. My DAZN is Canada,Netflix USA, ppv Germany etc. you can also set this up at the router level. Change your d.n.s to the “smart dns”. The only reason you’d want this extra router is if you use a goofy smart tv like he said. Btw, it’s a cat and mouse game. Netflix still sees the address ip the smart dns is giving them. Once this blows up, Netflix will block those ip’s
waiting for the moment, when netflix will block everyone except their services ... so no-one would be able to see watch them
Depends on how many IP they have, I'm thinking if they had proxy endpoint severs added into the router, in which case it ends up being as many endpoints as there are users that are infringing basically leading to the IP address being so numerous it'd be hard to block without tons of collateral damage to non-infringing users, add in the fact that most residential IPS reset every week it would be basically impossible to have an effective solution. Idk but that's just me spitballing I don't use any paid streaming service (other then UA-cam premium) so I don't have a hat in the ring here
I dougth that smart tv/custom apps skipp the dns. Maybe they use dns over http like firefox does nowdays, but they cant just hardcode their ips.
I think all that this router does can be done on any router with custom firmware. But you need the time to set it up and especially keep it up to date if some service changes something up.
I mean they can always just block the Proxy IPs if they want to. But that might also kick users that use that proxy but life in the country.
@@jaykoerner that would be using other people's internet and letting other people use yours, a big no no. You would be forwarding other peoples traffic through your ISP, they could be doing literally anything illegal, be completely protected and have you take the fall.
@@s.i.m.c.a they can’t do THAT. But by the end of 2022 all this will stop. Services are changing t.o.s and apps to be region specific. Ie when you sign up, it will be “Netflix Europe” for example. Only androids will be able to defeat this along with smart dns as iOS only allows you to dl your regions app
The fact that it already got blocked once during your test period confirms to me that it will be a constant game of Netflix whackamole.
I think ppl at Netflix can afford to buy one, track what its doing and block that within minutes, if the so choose to. Tbh no point in using any of these... Netflix OWN shows is the reason to sub. And those are same everywhere at the same time. I can get HBO MAX with ~same price of this fucking things monthly payments. Well, in 2 weeks, when it launches here. So whats better, bit more stuff on Netflix or HBO MAX ?
@@PeTe_FIN Netflix originals can be different in different countries. A lot of "originals" in the UK for example are network shows in the US
@@PeTe_FIN Or just download what you want from somewhere.
Do VPN's really not even work anymore on netflix etc? Havent tried it in a while, dont really use streaming services tbh.
@@PeTe_FIN Well some things, even if you know how they work are hard or almost impossible to block. Everybody can see how encryption works, yet you currently are not able to decrypt it.
Ok so you posed that it couldn't be a software solution because you couldn't use other devices on it -- but isn't this something that you could run software on a PiHole to do? I realize it's more setup, but this already has setup and people already running PiHoles wouldn't shy away
Also, the thing is $85, which includes 'service' for a year, then $7/month after. Guess what? 7*12=84. Why would I use this shitty hardware that doesn't seem to cost anything?
I already run OpenWRT on a second router, there's no reason this couldn't be distributed as firmware for a limited set of router hardware. Obviously they only have to support their one hardware configuration as it is, but I don't think the cost is remotely justified.
@@EliJayFly I guess we have to wait on people smarter than me to build this as open source.
@@djr5759 That's already the case. Now it's about if Open Source and the "We the people" or complicated licencing and their paid developers will come out on top, if that is ever decided at all.
well you would have to think of the less tech savvy customers, yes people do have the options, but most people would want to have a simple and easy solution, regardless the cost
why do people pay for VPN when they can make their own VPN then?
why do people pay for software when they can make their own?
because they can, and they will, they don't want the hassle
this is why piracy is so rampant. just watch whatever you want, whenever you want. if companies want people to stop pirating, make your services more accessible, rather than restricting more and more access.
and make it cheaper and don't raise prices. Netflix is perfect example of price hiking. They still offer a SD tier just so it looks 'cheap'. Who streams SD these days?
@@ZX48K Is there Netflix on phone? If so, that's a decent reason to stream SD. Not all phones are high res so it's way more tolerable on such a small screen.
@@GreatYamatanoOrochi that's a fair point actually. But I feel like 95% of phones nowadays are at the bare minimum 720p. It doesn't seem like to me that the kind of people with a super budget $30 smartphone from the grocery store would be paying for a Netflix subscription with the purpose of watching stuff on it but that's just me
@@willwunsche6940 depends, there're countries in the world with internet so slow SD is the only thing they can stream.
@@willwunsche6940 I own a super basic Redmi 9a, $100 phone with a 720p display with an unbelievably good battery. If I cared about Netflix, I'd say that's definitely something I'd do. Don't really need an expensive phone to watch Netflix
Linus: *mentions a jackery product in two videos*
Jackery: "im about to sponsor this man's whole carreer"
i think jackery has sponsored alot more than 2
@@nikoheino3927 Yuki wrote : Linus mentions jackery twice. (That Yuki knows of)
Not
Jackery sponsered only 2 videos. Completely different aint it
@@nikoheino3927 no you missed the point by a mile and a half. What the guy was saying that Linus simply mentioned a jackery product in 2 videos, and then they decided to sponsor him.
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@@damianxavier7343 yup, that's what i meant. But i only noticed jackery sponsoring lmg on 2 recent videos which i think are:
1.The one where they teched the hell out of a boat
2. That one about wifi for a house in a remote area
"The golden age of watching anything you wanted is over" LOL, Piracy is living on and strong and is still the superior viewing experience ;)
Copyright holders *aggressively* not learning the lesson that making access easier than pirating is they way to stop it, that includes removing geoblocking.
The problem is they kind of have a legal obligation to geolock due to streaming rights issues. The issue is systemic in the industry, not directly the fault of the individual streaming services.
@@DanielH212MC I said copyright holders not those licensing that copyrighted material. You're right and I agree, just clarifying.
So it is just a VPN that hat been configured correctly preinstalled on a cheap router.
looks like that.
And takes advantage of FOS, probably without providing source code of changes or returning anything to upstream.
@@leeroyjenkins0 Except it also intercepts DNS requests it's not just a dumb proxy service.
@@leeroyjenkins0 Yeah that's a proxy alright.
If the StreamLocator hardware is just a whitelabel router running OpenWRT, why couldn’t they release the OpenWRT plugin separately. Ideally they could release a Docker container.
I would like to watch more LTT UFC content now
YES!
Same. Hope the have a women division.
Professor Farnsworth - "Well, you see..."
Fry - "Magic. Got it."
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End-of-the-line software would be crappy, but I'd still far rather have software I could integrate into my dedicated gateway than have a cheap consumer hardware device in the network.
This right here is why piracy is never going away. Imagine paying something, yet companies make it extremely hard to get what you want when piracy gets you everything for free.
This is also why I will always get the DVD / blu-ray despite the "convenience" of the digital version
Its not free though. Its $85 plus another $84 every subsequent year. Thats on top of your subscriptions.
@asdfasdf I agree with all those. They're all on point.
@asdfasdf sup, corporate anti-piracy lobbying bot, you're completely wrong, its just companies see making dumb movies/games as an easy way to make millions/billions and they aren't wrong. companies that want to make good single player games actually try and make them. same with movies.
pirates has nothing to do with it.
actually, the most money makes a total crap with hundreds of millions in their budget like that comics movies trash. or a total disappointment like SW7-9 from Disney. you are saying SW7-9 or stupid marvel / dc crap with bad scripts exists "partially because of piracy"? are you okay? turn your brain on and think again. games, movies, and things like Twitch/UA-cam are the way they are because people/kids/advertisers PAY FOR THAT CRAP. money talks and pirates have nothing to do with it.
devs making crap games because there are TOO MANY DEVS and most of them are without imagination or writing skills.
youtube is crap because there are TOO MANY UA-camRS and most of them just aren't smart enough to make better content.
music is crap because there are TOO MANY CRAPPY MUSICIANS.
you just can't see gems in a river of crap that is modern media, again, piracy has literally nothing to do with all of that.
and also modern content just push an agenda more times than not and backed up by huge money, thats why you don't see relatable and smart content. they don't even try to make it.
@Fugp Basis "Waaaah! Pirates are entitled pieces of shit!"
The product ain't worth paying what they're asking for it.
The people who will pirate it, will pirate it. In the absence of piracy, they just wouldn't get the product at all.
What Linus said about a VPN putting all traffic through the tunnel is incorrect. You can use a split tunnel vpn to route specific subnets. Very common in business.
i'm just thinking about the mention how this could be done in software and do think that there should be a computer software one, since in that sense it could pretty quickly evolve into a better alternative to vpns, especially if it's user expandable
Not to mention be incorporated into existing network-level-tweaking solutions, like Pi-hole or other routers running OpenWrt firmware.
Honestly, that UFC fight between James and David....had me rolling on the floor laughing.
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isn't a golden age of watching everything you wanted is torrenting?
why bother. cheap internet is basic fibre nowadays. fast enough to stream. no need to save anything
If you have the storage space
Who tf says it’s gone? AFAIK torrents are still running and booming
@@bigchungus7050 get a seedbox and stream it from there
@@rohanofelvenpower5566 not me lmao. personally i like saving stuff, especially since some of it isn't on streaming sites and is obscure
This should just be a OpenWRT software that people can flash on their existing routers... That just sounds like a money grab / wasted resources to product more redundant hardware
They're just making a wrapper for some stuff that is a bit more complicated then installing Nord or PIA and selecting a region.
If it's cheap and stays cheap that's great, as long as it stays operational it's not a terrible idea.
@@VCNickelsyeah... I gladly use my phones or TVs app to change location before opening a streaming app from another country
The only reason this would be worth using is if it can't be blocked by Netflix, etc. Except since it literally already has been blocked once then it has already shown that it's not some special unblockable solution, it's just a classic cat and mouse situation where it will go between blocked and unblocked, just like any $2 VPN would.
Not the "only reason" as clearly identified in the video, it is far more flexible, although its also more expensive than a VPN if you buy multi-year deals from your VPN provider. Linus forgot to mention there is a monthly fee after the first 12 months to pay for running the proxy servers.
@@alexatkin 9:20
He didn't forget.
This is always a cat and mouse game, unless content industry somehow eases georestrictions or getting rid of it entirely, which, is unlikely.
@@bradhaines3142 so forever cat and mouse game then. Because customers don’t care how media industry think about georestrictions.
Linus: "The golden age of watching everything you want was over"
Me: using internet and torrent
with Plex or Jellyfin
*The power of the darkside, truly is unlimited!*
I remember playing Fallout 4 around a week before it was released, thanks to torrents... But also waiting for a year for the DRM on Rise of the Tomb Raider to be cracked, so it's got its downsides too...
@@tortugatech Yup, "We don't want to pay for 8000 channels of BS we don't want to watch because you guys figure the only way to have anyone pay for it is to bundle it with channels people do want" ... enter streaming services like Netflix ... "ooooooh, this is fantastic and exactly what I asked for, lemme watch this... " >NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR REGION< ..*sigh* "Arh HAR! I ask to be let back into ye brother hood me mateys!"
gaben for all his fault has that one thing on the money
when doing stuff legally is going to be so much more pain than doing it illegally, people will find ways and justification
Since the streaming sites exploded into more than I can keep track off, I went back to the special streaming sites which let you watch them all. No VPN or special hardware requirements. Good to use a VPN still though.
Now that I have my thinkpad as a full blown openwrt router, I’m curious about how they managed to make it work.
Piracy is a hell of a lot easier than this.
Peer-to-peer file sharing, can and is still used to bring people together in a more intimate/Amateur grouping.
Usually for more independent public domain film or writing works.
Watching "ABC", "UFC", or "I got an STD" through file sharing is your choice, but trying to go public is not going to last.
Yes there are many examples to prove two sides correct. That of the publisher/right holder, and the hacker/file bandit.
There is no common ground to overcome definitively. The marketing or "common" sales is the crossroads.
So you want "free tv", try Pluto or just subscribe with as monthly fee. Remember, your own money is going somewhere.
P.S. Did Netflix ever invest in VPN stock?? Why all the support of VPNs, from channels in such a short time?..
Good News :
- Linus said it work good when testing.
Semi Bad News :
- Linus said Netflix kills it in 2 days after release, but it somewhat okay now.
my first thought: "that could really combine with pihole on software level and make insane internet"
I’m confused as to how this saves you any money at all? You have to buy a physical item and then still pay a subscription that’s more expensive than most VPNs?
I think it’s only applicable if you already pay for services that are priced differently from region to region. Their UFC example is quite a good one, with the price in Germany being much lower than US pricing. If that is the case for several services you use, the gains could be greater than the price of the item + subscription.
If it’s just Openwrt with some tweaks and stuff then why can’t we just set up a similar system or even dump their firmware and put it on our existing equipment?
Because we haven't dumped it yet duh. Once they release this shit you know the openwrt bins will be on the net.
Exactly my thought, if it uses OWRT its just a fucking router, so where is the Tutorial for FritzBoxes?
Hardware looks similar to xiaomi r3g or mir4a
Also I would rather setup a proxy / vpn on my own vps than use their server
@Shooty67s we just have to wait and check wrt forums
This looks like an interesting bit of hardware, but keen to figure out how I could use this in combination with a network level adblocker like pi-hole
Netflix watching this video: Yeah about that...
yet you still pay a monthly service fee just as you would a vpn, so what's the actual point?
10:00 The bad news is, that i.e. Netflix could ban you from their service as they can easily see that your account is jumping around the globe daily, so you'd be violating their terms of service.
@@meikgeik not really clickbaity it does what it says but in an indirect way
Yeah, but if they ban you, they get no money from you. They don't want to do that in most cases.
"your account is jumping around the globe daily" - why would your account be jumping around the globe? Lets say for netflix you are in Poland, for amazon in US, for bbc in UK. None of them will see where you are for others
@@ProstoShelMimo When I used the same technology to access different shows I had to move my Netflix account around, because there is not "one country" that has every content available.
Neflix engineers: Ah shit here we go again.
"oh neat whatever"
-everyone already pirating content because they can't afford 25 streaming services
I made the calculation and to subscribe to every major service you need about $70 per month
@@csolisr $70 a month to probably only use about 2-3 of them a month.
Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
Yarr har fiddle dee dee
Being a pirate is alright to be
Do what you want cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate!
You are a pirate!
Yeah! - Lazy Town
These kinds of videos are why I love this channel. I'm a fan of the high seas and Plex. This would be much better since I already pay for those streaming services. I should already have access to what I pay for.
Can't belive Linus held a router for 11 minutes.
and didn't drop it
@@3D_foos Except it wasn't one continuous shot. Edits hide all sins if they want to.
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4:58 Fight of the century 😂
0:41 smoothest and the best segway I've seen
They must make decent money with all these users giving them all their dns requests
The concept of “geo locking” on anything seems so stupid and ancient. From where products can be bought. To sites delivering different content. To where you need to be sitting to stream video you pay for
In a global economy where the internet exists, it should be discouraged by the ever increasing popularity of content piracy
One argument for geolocking is that the cost of life varies drastically depending where you live. If you look on steam db, games prices can be like 5 times lower in developing countries than in developing ones. If content providers had to assign their product one single international price, they'd probably have to pick between making the product available to everyone by making the price very low, or pick a price that's out of reach for half their customer base. In most cases they'd probably pick the second option since it would make more financial sense .
Granted, this is already happening somewhat, piracy is very high in many developing countries for a reason.
(don't get me wrong, I find these "this video is not available in your country" messages as infuriating as you probably do)
I have stream locator for over 18 months now - have to say it’s a brilliant device & can’t recommend it enough
Most VPN’s have split tunnelling which deals with the ping issue.
Oh I was really hoping for some alternate (maybe open source) tools to be mentioned at the end for comparisions.
I'm actually quite surprised to hear this, I've been using a VPN for years to access Netflix and other services and I've never had issues
That's exactly what I thought, I downloaded a show from japanese netflix last week without any issues. Weird
corporations desperately try to enforce artificial scarcity, and fail all the time. piracy always wins
it is time to leave intellectual property in the dustbin of history and find another way to make sure the original creator gets their fair share
Don't most channels that put out sponsored videos by VPN providers still say that it will allow you to access region locked content and a lot of the time have a video of Netflix in the background when saying so?
Yep, they've been lying forever.
It really depends on the VPN and the option you choose.
Public IP addresses are not going to work, they'll get detected and blocked within a day on a major VPN. This means some VPNs offer "dedicated streaming IP addresses" which is an IP allocated purely to you, for an additional cost per month. This will generally work because it's less obvious what's actually going on and the IP is usually also from a different range of IPs (generally residental, versus commerical.)
I do hope your HDMI 2.1 cable review will include long (10 metre plus) fibre-optic cables.
The shirtless fist fight was amazing 👏
Look, I've seen real UFC footage before, and I'm positive LTT will be getting a letter from Dana's attorneys.
Of course James would win that fight was so staged
Linus critiquing Valve Steam Deck Video:
"They just said don't open it and then show us how to open it"
Also Linus:
"I said that it works just like a vpn but I also said before that that it's not a vpn"
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Original title: JAMES is the one who would be able to kill a bear first try.
Imagine region locking content in the digital age when you could just put everything out everywhere for the widest audience
Imagine understand license
imagine
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@Fugp Basis Damn, sounds like you have it tough.
Such is the world in the tyranny that is capitalism. Even when scarcity ceases to exist, commodities must be made artificially scarce for the rich parasites to steal their pound of flesh from the working people
It would be interesting adding the same feature to pihole. Enforcing the use of an hardware appliance is great for non techs, but allowing a standalone usage of the software solution is much better…
As a Iranian person who is actually a VPN just so I can watch this I really do appreciate this content thank you LTT
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World’s first human VPN
@@donquixoteupinhere lost in translation.
Another way to getting around publishers and their rights of what they want to sell you and what you can watch is to just use a torrent.
Peer-to-peer file sharing, can and is still used to bring people together in a more intimate/Amateur grouping.
Usually for more independent public domain film or writing works.
Watching "ABC", "UFC", or "I got an STD" through file sharing is your choice, but trying to go public is not going to last.
Yes there are many examples to prove two sides correct. That of the publisher/right holder, and the hacker/file bandit.
There is no common ground to overcome definitively. The marketing or "common" sales is the crossroads.
So you want "free tv", try Pluto or just subscribe with as monthly fee. Remember, your own money is going somewhere.
P.S. Did Netflix ever invest in VPN stock?? Why all the support of VPNs, from channels in such a short time?..
Arrr, Matey!
@@rexbk09 Um what? Do you really think they can stop torrents considering they haven't been able to do so for 15 years now? And no, the idea in the mass download age that torrents would last long when they contain viruses and maleware is pretty much a myth.
It would be awesome if it had ad blocking functionality included like pihole
The strings on Linus hoodie aren't equally long on each side and now that i have noticed i can't look away.
He's proactively triggering the viewers' CDO on purpose, I bet.
People can't get access content from other countries?
Well, I've been sailing the seven seas for 15 years now, so I never thought that was a problem people faced.
Well, I do live in the tropics (south India) where the rain is always a bit torrential
Baseball fans who pay $140 a year to stream games can't even access live games that are available in other states without a VPN solution.
That might have been my favorite sponsor segue you've done so far
Just straighten that antenna!!! 🙃
This will get blocked by Netflix in no time.
It's a game of cat and mouse, and i'll bet that the one to come out on top will be the international, 40-billion worth streaming service that has infinite R&D money.
@@adeadfishdied except that there's no way that these guys are setting up hundreds\thousands of proxy servers in each country they want to offer access to. This scheme reminds me of the old satellite piracy thing, you pay monthly for something that may or may not work at any given time. It worked back in the day because internet speeds were much lower. Legally this is different, but in terms of what the customer get's it isn't.
It costs a few bucks/euros/whatever to rent an off-site seedbox for a month. You could torrent whatever you want with essentially zero risk at blazing speeds. I don't condone it, but it guarantees that the end user will always win :)
@@adeadfishdied no, Netflix also blocks the IP range that belongs to most of the VPS provider. If you're trying to build a private VPN using cloud service provider, chances are, it won't works. Trust me, I've tried
2:35 "it doesn't affect your security and it doesnt slow you down"
Maaaaagiiic , Got me laughting so loud and for a solid 20 sec.
Nah! We can use a VPS or Raspberry pi mini-computer for this scenario.
Which you still need a VPN that fools the streaming services to achieve and is is not nearly as flexible with that simple region switcher.
We wouldn't need this if licensing wasn't so damn outdated.
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I really wish video titles weren't generic clickbait, but actually descriptive of what the video is about
if this had a cheaper software-only version, I'd strongly consider it. right now I'll just find a VPN route that's not blocked by Netflix
The thing is, a software solution is no cheaper for them to maintain. You're pretty much only paying for the maintenance of the network and IP list. Though I would much rather a software solution too so I can implement it on pfSense rather than adding unnecessary extra hardware that is dramatically less powerful than my existing router.
Me, who watches so little shows and movies that buying any sort of subscription to a streaming service will be a waste of money: interesting...
9:28 Heh, nice _Phantom Menace_ reference.
That UFC fight was epic. We need more Linus. WE NEED MORE!!!
A free crappy VPN with a WebRTC leak shielding extension has always made the trick to unlock foreign content, as for privacy (and ad removal) a nicely crafted HOSTS file makes the trick.
What?
@@iamperplexed4695 Same lmao. I'm not smart enough to understand wtf is even being said.
but where is the SAUCE MAN?
How does a free crappy VPN and a WebRTC leak prevention browser extension help with bypassing regional content locks on TVs, consoles and etc? Did you watch the video? That's what the device is primarily designed for.
And manually adding (even with tools like HostsMan it's still pretty much manual) records to a goddamn HOSTS file sounds like such a dynosaurish approach to solving privacy/security problems, lol. (Especially if you have more that one device on the network; PSA: people, please learn setting up, configuring and monitoring Pi-Hole, *at least* Pi-Hole, it's not hard at all.)
@@icipher6730 A lot of people display on a TV from a computer, that's what HTPCs are for, you could also use a laptop and an HDMI, c'mon buddy, this is not rocket science.
As for hosts, there is currently incredible sources of curated hosts files, and with hostsman is absolutelly not a hassle to manage, also, URLs don't change that much, an update a year is more than enough.
This is a hardware free solution, which means 0 extra latency, and a software free solution, which means 0 performance degradation and you can tweak it instantaneously if you have issues with any webpage or software, it's also multiplatform as hosts files are standarized across all mayor OSs, Windows, Linux, Android... all compatible.
This looks like a product that could break forever a week after you buy it. It requires constant maintenance by the manufacturer to keep up with unpredictable changes by streaming services.
Yeah thinking the same. Also I don't see a reason why this cant be done with something like PFSense and some advanced rules.
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@@NextLevelCode It can, but who runs the proxy servers?
4:16 "routes all*..."
*unless using something like corporate VPN with split tunneling.
Hey even open source wireguard has split tunneling now
@@vincenttjia heck even sshuttle does that. Didn't realize any VPN software *wouldn't*.
PIAs split tunnel is honestly a life saver I wouldn't be able to use discord otherwise.
even free vpn's like proton does that nowadays lmao
"Our viewers are not going to accept 'magic' as the reason why a device on their network works"
- Sent from my magical pocket device via magic beams
_All technology, when sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic._ - Arthur C. Clarke
This as a software package for a raspberry pi or similar SOC would be the shit. I would totally pay the $10 a month for it.
haven't had any problems ever using a vpn with any streaming service. So they might say that they blocked it, but it doesn't seem to be that effective.
yeah me neither, but linus has to sell this product somehow lol
@@jamiemerritt3533 I think this product isn't a sponsor
Netflix has them all figured out from what I've seen. What VPN do you use that's capable of consistently streaming Netflix? All the ones I've tried work SOMETIMES, but it's rare to find a server that functions.