FYI - This wasn’t a review. I was just sharing how excited I was about printing fast with my K1. My X1 gives me so many errors I just can’t get into it. But I especially like the price wars because it will get more people into 3D printing who don’t want to hack an Ender 3. It’s been a lot of fun playing with the K1.
I just bought the K1, really high quality unit , zero assembly , literally take it out the box, remove he packing and print. Amazingly fast and accurate. I cannot speak highly enough of this little monster of a printer. AND DID I MENTION FAST. I have 7 3D printers but this is really next level, when you consider a Prusa 3 would cost you significantly more and the Prusa is toy compared with this
The Prusa MK3 is relatively cheap to come by these days. Especially when buying used. ;o) Maybe you meant the MK4? but i dont get why speed is suddenly sooo important?! I guess many 3D printers are standing still during the night and the best part of the week. So there would be plenty of time to print things in between. So is speed really the most important thing, especially for twice the price of a Sovol SV07
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 A new Prusa Mk3 delivered is $1130 plus AU$ with a two week delay before shipping. That's over $300 more than I paid for the K1 or in real terms 40% more. The print quality on the K1 is second to none and thats at 300mm/sec , so there is no trade off between speed and quailty. Sovol missed the boat when they came out with the SV 07 , it should of been the same as the SV 06 but with the same bearing rods as the SV06 plus for great stiffness. I have both the SV06 nd the SV06 plus which are by far the best budget printers. But the SV07 is a step backwards for Sovol. I want to see a bed slinger with 2000mm / sec acceleration. It would rip the print off the best. Its that fast you literally cant see it move from one part to the next, its just a blur
Prusa is just another cheap product that attracts bougie assholes looking to 1-up their friends. If you’re still using a Prusa, high on the fumes of feeling better than everyone else, probably didn’t notice there’s way better options.
@@NicodemusT Does it really make you feel that smug and superior? That could be a tipping point, a feeling of self worth is indeed valuable. You sold me on it.
I went with the P1S but this current race is great for consumers and the industry. If we want 3D printing to be mainstream, which it will be in a few years, this is how it’s going to happen. We need speed with quality and all for a reasonable price. Can’t wait to see what’s released next.
Speed maybe not the thing people are looking for. Because you can always print over night ... but reliability, easy to use and easy maintenance should be a mayor selling point, especially in the 2nd or 3rd iteration of the product after the first generation failed and got broken and people figured that repairability is a necessity.
I think people massively miss what Bambulab really brought to the table. Speed was already possible. High quality was possible. Exotic materials (undrler 300 c) was possible. Instead they packaged that up into an accessible machine and added features that made it pain free to use.
I own 3 Bambu Lab X1C and one Creality K1 both offer their advantages and disadvantages and it is good that Creatlity fixed some issues. It's good that there is competition in both ends. The K1 got Bambu Lab to release the P1S fixing the open issue and allows competition.
Picked 1 up yesterday and printed great straight out of the box, already had a blockage and a failed print but both due to user error I think, back up and running and working great!
What is never mentioned (except by CNC Kitchen who actually ran this test) is the strength you sacrifice when printing so fast. The plastic needs time for the heat to melt into itself and bond properly for good strength. If you're printing models then all is fine, but if you need strong parts, you're layers may let you down because they aren't properly fused together. Also, your prints are only going to be as good as your filament. Many people assume spending lots of money means better quality an precision. It puts you in a better position to achieve it, but many tinkerers know how to get the best from their machine with a certain brand of filament. It's not always going to be like that though because many manufacturers, particularly Amazon sellers, change their stock to more and more shoddy materials and still sell under the same guise once they got a highly positive review count. I say that people need to really ask themselves if it's worth it for them, and temper their expectations. I'm keeping my A10M for now. It's small enough and lightweight to put away when I'm not using, and I can run it while watching TV without getting a headache. It's reliable and simple and I can access everything as problems arise
The point simply is: you CAN go fast, if you want to. Like with big projects. But you dont have to! What is a bummer to me is: none of this "speed" printers has a "silent and slow" mode integrated which turn down the fans and the speed to actually print in your living room without the noise. But since you can adjust the printing speed in the slicer: you can actually go slow if a part needs the strength or something.
Partly true, but in my tests you can get away with fast printing for more than just models. I print a lot of tool holders that do have some static forces applied to them and they're fine; so long as you're thoughtful about your layer orientation (which you need to be anyway) it's a relatively moderate challenge.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I'm aware you can slow it down and not get the violent sounds, but my question then becomes.... what are you paying for? Don't get me wrong, having the option to go fast would be great, but I feel that people need to temper their expectations. I recently learned that as great as Bambu Labs latest offerings appear to be, they aren't infallible, and many reviewers show off models that look awesome, because of the way they light them. When others show the light directly from above, you still see the flaws in the layers that you see from much cheaper printers. I've also since seen that they still do spaghetti prints and get jams and clogs, despite having settings that are supposed to stop this. Many tinkerers are still playing with these expensive printers to get better prints from them. And some look much more difficult than basic printers to get apart when they go wrong.
@@ed3dnet Can I ask what speeds you get away with for such things? Not that tool holders need to be strong if we're talking about a few Allen keys and snippers. I'm talking about brackets such as those on a toilet seat, where people sit on it and put real strain on it. I print no faster than 28mm/s at 205c to get good strength and accuracy from PLA+ and they are stronger than the broken parts they replace. I also made a shower screen bracket which holds a massive curved glass door with standard PLA. These fixes alone have paid for my dual extruder printer.
@@ArcanePath360 "what are you paying for?" ... Well that would be the option to do it if needed. Just because a sports car can go fast it does not always need to! ;o) I do also like the design of these new, enclosed printers. They do look a lot better! And people are willing to pay for good design, too. You still can start with an open, cheap, much more simple machine like a Sovol SV06. And it's good you have all the options, I guess. And yes those machines are not perfect! A very good print also needs some good profiles and a bit of tuning. But don't get caught with high resolution and perfect lighting detail shots of prints! It's like looking with a microscope on things. After all FDM is not perfect. I also cannot understand why Bambu Lab and Creality do not implement a slower print profile ... maybe half as fast as the normal print speed but with less noise and maybe also an even higher quality. This is something I would go for! Make that printer a bit slower but also much more silent for every day printing, use the enclosed design with a filter like the nevermore to get rid of the fumes and if the time is tight have the option of printing load and fast.
"no one else does" ... Is that so?! To be fair, other reviewers had a more in depth review and more pros and cons listed. But ALL of them liked some aspects of the machine. Take the review of "The 3D Printing Zone" ... just in the first 30 seconds he says, that he likes the machine but does not recommend it. Later on in most reviews the reason is clear: software. It is not as evolved as the software a Bambu machine runs. (Just remember that Bambu Studio slicer is a rip off of Prusa Slicer and they dont wanted to admit that in the first place .... month later they have) That problem was also addressed here, if you watch closely: Chuck says he does not like cloud and does not use the app and uses the good old USB drive instead. So it's up to you, what you make out of that. But all reviews I watched pointed out how impressive the hardware with that price point is! A week ago (before the Bambu P1s was announced) you had to get the X1C for like double the price to get such a fast, enclosed out-of-the-box machine, especially if you dont want to modify it (like enclosing the P1P). The "hope" here is that Creality goes all in with open source and commit to that! A simply accessible Klipper firmware and official profiles for the latest CURA slicer would be a huge improvement with this machine and a big plus over the closed source Bambu Lab printers. Creality is doing Creality things again and presented a not so polished product with the K1. But give it some weeks and most things are going to be improved, like the extruder issue most reviewers had with the first charge of machines.
We really have Comgrow's finest in here, don't we? "We're going to open-source it in the future" doesn't mean they aren't willfully noncompliant now. How are the closed-source Cura fork and the against-the-license Klipper fork "closer to open source" than a fully open-source Bambu Studio (modulo their network connector, which does suck) and a acceptable-by-license homegrown firmware that is not willfully noncompliant with the GPL?
I really appreciate your comment becuase it was like I was taking crazy pills. Like are we really pretending an innovative new company that changed the whole space and doesn't violate licenses is in any way to a company with a litany of on going violations in multiple areas that has bribed reviewers? It's absurd. Creality doesn't just not have a spotless reputation. Creality has a terrible reputation.
They are good printers when they work, when they don't then forget about help from customer services. I belong to a group of disabled pensioners here in the UK, we decided as our bodies weren't working we could at least keep our minds active. So we all (5 of us) decided we would like to do 3D printing. And as usual it's up to me to buy one for testing to show the others how to use them. Anyway it was decided to get an Ender 3 V2 Neo. When it arrived there was no tool kit to assemble it, so I had to go out to buy the Allen Keys. After assembly I noticed filament on the bed and nozzle. On trying out the printer it had a few faults, the levelling adjusters we tight as a drum and I it took ages to release them, the printer had other faults as well and didn't work. So I contacted their customer support and waited, and waited..............and nothing. After numerous complaints they eventually asked me to forward a copy of my receipt and a photo of the serial number on the printer, this I did and emailed them back. And once again no response at all. After more complaints they sent me an email saying "SORRY". And that was it, nothing else, no offer to replace the faulty pre used printer, just SORRY. So after some time the printer was sold as spares. We were going to buy a Bambu but funds are limited and we ended up with another Ender 3 V2 Neo, this time the Snips were snapped in two, so once again I contacted them and eventually they asked for a photo of the broken item. I couldn't believe it when the actually replaced them. The new printer seems to be working ok but looking at more reviews I find I may have made a terrible mistake. So we are looking at other printers and trying to find a reliable model that won't need upgrading soon after buying it. When anyone asks me I am saying to keep well away from Creality/Comgrow printers. Any ideas?
@@kord2003 No, imy problem is that Creality sold me a used, faulty printer, all I wanted was for them to replace it and they ignored all my emails. Anyway by law they have to so I'm going down the legal route.
You often have some filament in the nozzle as they test the machine in the factory, but they make it hard for customers. Overtightened belts indicates a customer return to me.
This hobby is where PCs were in 1996. Seniors today will be deceased by the time printing doesn't require skills much more common to machinists and coders who are just as enthused with learning the machines and correcting garbage lazy design choices (which do not make the product cheaper to produce). The death of Western manufacturing means everything affordable will basically require a rebuild by technician skilled in relevant trades. W. Edwards Deming is a hero in Japan, not China.
I have to point this out - it's astounding how this and other K1 reviews praise the K1 profusely, but the same reviewer slammed Bambu for things both printers have in common. You don't like the Bambu, but you like the Creality because it's open source? Creality Slicer is not open source. Bambu Studio is. Why do you trust Creality is going to make the printer firmware more open when they literally just patched the way people could actually make it open source and put a proper version of Klipper on it?! Meanwhile, Creality isn't publishing the source code for their klipper install, which is openly violating open source software licensing. You criticized the Bambu for not being open source hardware spec. Neither is the K1, but you apparently love it. If you're pro-open source, you should be slamming the K1 as an abomination considering your criticisms of the Bambu Labs X1 Carbon. If you don't like either one since open source is important to you, I get it. But this? C'mon man.
He says in many videos that he does like Bambu Lab printers. Bambu Studio just "made" open source as people found out it was a rip off of Prusa Slicer. Are you really sure Bambu Lab is NOT using Klipper in the background? Because it's closet source nobody can tell. But yes, Creality is acting shady here instead of embracing open source and partnering with Klipper or the community. So I have the feeling they are doing the same thing that BL does. And no, I don't think that Bambu Lab reinvented what the Vorons and Klipper already achieved. They are just hiding it better.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738my guy I don't know whose dick you're riding here but I think this is the 7th or 8th comment that I've seen trying to bash BambuLabs in various comment threads. Log off the internet for a bit.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738People “found out” Bambu Studio is based on Prusaslicer because Bambu was up front and said it was a fork of Prusaslicer. Bambu also made VERY significant contributions to the code. At the time of release, Bambu had tree supports. Prusaslicer did not. Bambu Studio was such a good slicer, the community forked it in the form of Orcaslicer. Bambu Studio is no more a “rip off” of Prusaslicer than Prusaslicer was a stollen Slic3r. You’re spewing absolute nonsense. Bambu complied with open source licensing agreements other than they didn’t initially release the source code as soon as they should have, but they did release it. Creality still has not released their klipper source code they’re required to do, and Chep in the video also mentioned Creality Slicer is based on Cura which is also open source, and where’s the source code for Creality Slicer? You have zero proof Bambu’s printer firmware is based on Klipper. That is purely idle speculation. These two companies are not behaving the same way. I’m not happy with a few things Bambu has done, but that doesn’t mean they’re remotely the equivalent of what Creality is doing and justifies completely unfounded speculation about their firmware.
Good review Chuck! I can’t wait to see what you are able to do with it! I’m wanting a new printer, this, and Bambi are on the list both have their pro’s and some con’s, so I’ll wait a while longer to see if it all improves, in the meantime I’ll continue to use my slow little Ender3. Thanks for sharing with us!
Many reviews of the K1 have positive aspects! But people forget: you have to "read" the review and have in mind that it's only referring to the situation at that time. Things are developing. And Chuck did say that in the video. He also neglected to use the app which other reviewers did. Maybe this would be the first learning out of the first reviews.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I hear what you are saying. I'm going to wait a little to see what Creality does to make things better. On another topic, your name is clearly Scandinavian, but I can't place which country. My first guess would be Swedish, but I don't want to get it wrong so I won't guess! 😜
Love to hear your perspective Chuck. I've had my P1P about 3 weeks now, and I will tell you I will not be going back to an ender three type machine ever again. I was interested in the k1 and the k1 Max but I do too much multi-color printing and without a dedicated AMS solution on the horizon, for me, it put the P1P over the reality machine. . Find the P1P operating system to be much more user friendly, at least for the way that I think and work
@@irbose9895he K1 has a multimaterial system from Fantasyland in that it doesn’t exist. Did you even bother reading his comment before you blindly slammed the Bambu for something that doesn’t matter to him as much?
@RoXolid I am also interested in multicolor printing but the price of that AMS is to high for me for "just having the option". I am also concerned about the waste issues with that AMS. In some cases it produces much more waste than the actual part itself. That why I am thinking about an IDEX machine like the Sovol SV04 IDEX. It reduces the waste because of dual tool head but is only giving 2 color option without changing filament in between. But it's significantly less poop which is a good thing. A manual change of filament during the print is also an option for me. Depending on the model and how it is positioned it would not be a problem if like 3 colors are needed and the last one only at the top... The multi toolhead system that Prusa is working on would be another option! But at what price? And there are concerns with Bambu Lab being closed source, which is a problem for the community I think! They used the PrusaSlicer for their own purposes which benefits also the more "user friendly" handling you mentioned ... but they are not giving anything back to the community and had to be pressured to make Bambu Studio also public on Github. If Creality also goes that route than 3D printing is changing. But since the AMS is a huge selling point for the Bambu machines ... there could be another manufacturer already be working on an alternative.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738Prusa by your logic used Slic3r for their own ends! Those evil SOBs! How dare they fork an open source project openly, improve it, and release the source code! *clutching pearls*
My experience was a little different, I found that there is no toll-free support phone number to call, you have to use chat support. I had 4 different incognito support chat windows open since the morning which extended passed 1 in the afternoon and all chats auto closed on me and asked me to leave an email instead. I am a cyber security person by day and I have to say their support is negatively impactful and you might as well have a brick for a printer WHEN it malfunctions. Great features and all but not if they don't work.
Thanks for the great review of the K1. I received mine 2 weeks ago and it has been a real workhorse. Fast and reliable. My only issue is with their cloud function. Or lack of. I like to send prints to the queue on the printer straight from my laptop. The Creality Cloud sucks. It just doesn’t work over half the time. Trying to do it through the Creality slicer is hit and miss, mostly miss. The slicer itself is quite good, but a little clunky. I have tried Cura and Prusa Slicer, but it is a lot of work to get a good profile. Interestingly Simplyfi3D has an excellent profile for the K1, it is the only reason I am glad that I updated to Version 5.
It's a great time to get into 3D printing, but my 2+ year old Ender 3 v2 with a few mods (mainly dual Z rods, PEI bed & Klipper) prints beautifully, accurately and reliably every time, so I will not be upgrading anytime soon
I took an Ender3 S1 Pro profile from Cura and just increased the print speed and temperature for the K1 and got good results at 200mm/s. My 2 day print was down to 16 hours and looked great. I hope to see a Cura profile specifically for the K1 soon but so far this has worked for me.
Been looking for an upgrade to my beloved Ender 2pro, this seems like a decent option. I'm used to Creality already and am interested in doing ABS with the enclosure.
how can you be "used to creality"? they make a marlin printer, it's literally swappable for Sovol (who use Creality parts, their belt tensioners *are* the ones from a CR-10 Smart and other printers) or Elegoo (who make better stuff) or whatever. Creality doesn't *make* much of anything, though I guess now they figured out how to fab an enclosure. They're an assembler of parts.
You're getting a VIP treatment, you can't objectively review this. Also a big brand that has built millions of printers releasing an early model with a crappy print head is pretty unforgiveable.
And they're also openly in violation of open source licensing since they mutilated Klipper and stopped the way people were able to put a proper version of klipper on it via an update without releasing the source code.
@@heroflying Bambu openly violated Prus Slicer s open source since at the beginning they where NOT giving Prusa Slicer it's credit with their "own" Bambu Studio.
The first Bambu Lab printers had problems, too. Many reviewers said they received spare parts or a second unit. It seems they rushed it out, yes. It seems like a common phenomenon these days also with Smartphone software, triple A video games or 3D printers. The Mk4 was released without the it's real "Klipper like" firmware.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738This is BS. bambu was open from the beginning it was a fork of Prusaslicer. They didn’t release the source code quite as soon as they should have by a month, but they did release the source code. Creality still has not. Bambu also significantly added functionality to Prusaslicer, they didn’t just release a Prusaslicer clone. This is obvious just in them beating Prusaslicer on tree supports by almost a year.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738Bambu printers on release to reviewers did not release with show stopping “the extruder doesn’t work” problems. Many reviewers to this day still don’t have a working extruder. Bambu has only had to make some minor design changes mainly to the AMS to resolve minor issues. The overwhelming majority of X1 Carbons had no major problems upon release with something as simple as basic extrusions. The K1 did, so much so that Nathan Builds Robots designed an adapter because even his new revision extruder didn’t work either. NBR you might also point out had issues with the kinematics in his first bambu - which ended up being if I remember he got skin oil on the rod or something like that which wasn’t the printer’s fault. Sorry, they’re not remotely comparable here.
from multiple reviews and live streams everyone says the K1 sounds like a vacuum when it's running, is in breach of open source license agreements, and the "open source" parts and still just the nozzles. You can't even get a replacement hot end, if your belts wear out you are stuck with third party ones which void your warranty, no extruders (not that you could tune E-Stepping anyway) they don't even have K1 Max buildplates available. I'll take a closed system with easy part availability over a claimed open system with zero repair-ability.
I beat the k1 and ke slicer settings. Whit 2 minutes. In my cura setting for the se . So Nice. Thanks chep. I use a 0.4 nozzle. And the Print speed is set at 500. Whit 5 slower layers. Temp buildplate 70. And petg no problems
I was looking at one of these. Definitely going to be my 3ed printer now. Have a ender 3 v2 and a anycubic koba neo. Love them both but i want something that prints faster. Cant wait to get your amazing profiles for the k1.
This is really intriguing, if they follow through with being open source on this like the ender 3, I would be very interested in buying one at some point. I have the original ender 3 that I still use today, and this would be a fantastic upgrade to bring my hobby up to modern printing standards. Being more compatible with common replacement parts, unlike bambulabs, would be a very attractive factor in justifying the cost.
Great review and enjoying the competition heating up. It can only mean better printers. My interest lies in the K-1 Max size. My heavily modded CR-10 has been my workhorse and a 300mm x 300mm print bed version of the K1 or Bambu or ? is my next purchase and I will be patient. I prefer a truly open printer as we have a great aftermarket community who made my original CR-10 and my other printers even better and trouble free. I hope the same will happen for whoever emerges as the open source leader for this generation.
@@timandrew4515 Well in some way the Bambu Lab X1C is a cheaper "clone" of a Voron 2.4 without the hassle to build it by yourself. The P1P and P1S is a cheaper version of that X1C. Than Bambu Lab had lowered the prices of that P1P. The Sovol SV06 is a cheaper clone of the MK3. But isn't that good for the customer and a byproduct of things developing? And isn't cloning one fundamental aspect of the 3D printing community and the idea behind Rep Rap?!
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I no way is what you said remotely true. To call them a clone of Vorons is to know nothing of manufacturing processes or user experiences. Just for starters, Bambulabs have more in common with computer cases and rc drones build wise than they do vorons, and you show me a voron that auto tunes as much as the Bambulab does. It's ridiculous to call it a clone.
I upgraded most of my older 3d printers to Klipper and am running at about twice the speed. Still very slow compared to these new printers. Nice to to see the improvements. Though I personally can't justify the money for simply a faster printer. Now figure out multi color without wasting so much filament, and faster speed on that end, and few other innovations along with the speed. That is where I will be interested again. Well unless a box full of money falls into my lap. Then I might try :)
My guess is that $539 is only directly thru Creality, as Amazon still shows it at $629. They may have lowered the price to compete the new Bambu P1S, which is bigger(256x256x256), capable of AMS, and also enclosed, and priced at $699.
I received my K1 Max this weekend. I did about 10 pints (Creality's Benchy, Standalone Spool Holder, and misc small stuff) in white Hyper PLA. I decided to try printing Overture PETG and my part printed with issues that look to me like part cooling issues. Basically, the part was oriented in the center of the build plate parallel to the front and back sides. The part cooling fan on the right side was blocked from object side walls to cool interior spaces.After finishing the print I retracted the PETG filament and sealed it up for the night. The next morning, I tried to print with Hyper PLA filament, but I could not extract it. After reviewing Creality's various repair videos, I removed the extruder and found nothing wrong. I moved onto removing the nozzle. Using Creality's supplied cleanout rod I could not feed it through the hotend from either the bottom or the top. After heating up the hot end (with the nozzle removed) I used the cleanout probe again and got some black PETG filament out but I still could not feed the rod all the way through. I used a lighter to heat up the rod and was finally able to clear the hotend or so I presumed. I replaced the nozzle and put the hotend back together. I printed a replacement spool holder with bearings in Amazon Basics PLA and all seemed well. The next day when using Amazon Basic PLA again I could not extrude filament. I removed the filament and the Bowden tube from the extruder. I reused the cleanout tool from the top side and found more filament blocking the throat of the unit. I heated up the nozzle but I still couldn't clear the clog from the topside. I heated the rod for a few seconds with a lighter and this cleared the clog (so I presumed). I was able to extrude Amazon Basics PLA so I started another side mounted spool holder. The first layers had some issues due to not enough glue stick being applied for the size of the part. The first layer wasn't perfect, but I let it go. After about 4 or 5 layers the printer speeded up printing of a cross hatch infill pattern. The cross hatches came out in blobs and didn't stick to the smooth layers printed previously. I stopped the print and decided to use Creality Hyper PLA. This turned out to be worse. First layers were better, but the high-speed infill layer didn't stick at all and globs of filament and small filament pieces were everywhere. The Lidar didn't stop the printing either (not sure if I need to turn it on or what). Looking at the Generic and Hyper PLA filament profiles provided in Creality print the speed for both profiles is identical (300 mm/s first layers, 300 mm/s outer wall speed and infill speed of 500 mm/s). I presume printing was failing at 500 mm/s - I was surprised to see the non-Hyper filament was configured to try using 500 mm/s. Anyway, I am going to try Creality's Benchy with Hyper PLA to see if my printer has a flow issue due to clog remnants. Sorry for the long comment. Keep up the good work. Perhaps some a speed test cubes are needed to tune filament profiles similar to temperature towers.
Benchy is printing fine so I just need to "tune" print speed for the side mount print holder I was trying to make. Oddly this is from someone who made it for their K1 printer. No comments were included with the model. Regarding the Lidar module. I don't see a what looks like a LED on the bottom of the Lidar unit lit. Perhaps when I replaced the nozzle I got the Lidar wiring reversed. I will check this out.
Competition = good. Will I get one? Probably not. I don't trust creality quality controll (it may got better just will belive when I see it). Will have to make choice in three months+ so plenty of time to decide (maybe there will be something new :D). Heard something about issues with cable hitting lid. Was there any issue with that?
I’m looking to buy one of these used. How do I know if it has the new extruder or old? Can you purchase the new version of the extruder anywhere? Thanks.
W8ing for the K1 max. I really want the build area and speed of a VzBot. But it's the old time versus cost dilemma. We'll see where creality lands in that respect b4 I pull the trigger.
the world needs more K1's & bambulab competition i really want to get a k1 especially the max the things that held me back was the lack of being able to buy the ceramic heaters and the plastic extruder gears. the ceramic heaters now seem to be available and there are 3rd party options which is good. but I'm still wary of the long term use of the plastic gears. I'm sure these problems will be addressed but i hope sooner rather than later.
Sadly i am having a ton of issues with mine now. I have about 250 hours of print time logged. It has now started doing funny things like printing out into space at random intervals. I installed the camera, which seems to give 100 false positives for errors, but on some major prints where it printed a full formed spaghetti monster, the ai detection system thought it was AOK. I am on my second extruder, waiting for the third. There is some path issue where filament can break off inside the extruder unit and jam it. Sadly Creality's support has not been super helpful. I am waiting to hear back on the next thing they want me try, which is checking cable runs to the main board (but they did not specify where it is on this machine)
I have this machine now for 3 weeks, its an awesome machine !!!! i only dont like the filamentfeeding and the filament holder on its back, that ive changed with an update from thingiverse. Chuck, maybe you cant find out how colorchanging works during midprints. Cura has a setting to change the filament, but couldnt find that option in creality print. Otherwise its a great great machine !!!
Hope to never have another Creality product again after treating me like a criminal for asking to buy spare parts for my Sermoon D1. Would not talk to me unless I supplied a serial # and receipt. Just wanted extra parts, not repair and they quit support months after I purchased it the first week they released. Still don't understand why you have to jailbreak to pause to change filament colors.
@@NicodemusT my own choices? It was a bad choice to trust a large, established company to provide support after the sale. And all I wanted was an extra build plate and hot end. There aren't any parts listings in the store for a new 3D printer even after 6 months? Good luck with anything new from Creality if it breaks. And the support completely sucks.
@@nathantanti8283 The X1C is TWICE as much! For a hobby 3D printer that maybe is far too much for many people. The P1s is a better comparison, still the K1 is cheaper. The price is the main selling point here ... and for that there have to been made some compromises, especially since Creality is not known for bringing a very polished product to the consumer. The K1 and it's software is going to be improved. But it is good that there is an alternative to the Bambu machines, because competition is always good. Let's see how things are developing.
The fact that the Bambu Slicer requires a login - as best as I understand - leads me back to Creality. I think I will stay with my Ender 3 until all this dust settles. I have been screwed by web dependent software one too many times to take a chance on a new company (Bambu) who just might decide to start charging subscription fees.
@@hugolatra in lan mode u lose access to the mobile app and printer camera for remote monitoring. And you’ll eventually have to do a firmware update where they’ll extract every single log from your machine, rip bambu spies
@@irbose9895Bambu Slicer 1.7 adds camera access in LAN mode. Also, do tell how Creality will allow their smart app access to the printer not connected to the internet. Also also, it’s interesting how you’re so concerned about privacy with Bambu and completely skip over how the Creality smart app is laden with adware. Yes, there’s privacy concerns with Bambu. That’s 100% a valid concern with the printer, but you’re clearly not interested in a fair and balanced conversation here.
@@heroflying Both companies have issues here! Remember Bambu Lab didn't wanted to admit they used PrusaSlicer as a base for their Bambu Studio?! So much of the praises that goes with the software is due to Prusas great work over the years with their slicer... I wouldn't be surprised if also Klipper is running in the background of the Bambu machines with Bambu Lab hiding it better. Closed source is always a problem, especially in 3D printing. Creality seems to be wanting to do the same as Bambu Lab did with their new software. Fingers crossed that they fully commit to open source instead and open up the access to Klipper on this machine! Especially the fluidd interface with a mobile browser - without the need to have any kind of app in a network - could be a huge benefit here! But as it stands now: If you want a "Voron like machine" without the need to build it by yourself and an attractive price point of 600 - 700 bucks you have to make compromises and give something up! That is the idea of open source in the first place, maybe more of your data in the second. The K1 is cheaper than a Bambu P1S or X1, but the software is less finished.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738ven if you say it 1000 times, it still doesn’t make it true that Bambu “stole” from Prusaslicer, they were honest about it being a fork from the get go, released the source code, and contributed lots of code they came up with. Again, Prusaslicer just recently got tree supports in 2.6. Bambu had it on initial release last year. Your claim is horse crap. You know who else did the same thing? PRUSA! Prusaslicer is a fork of Slic3r. Stop spreading BS.
The quality is better than my P1P many times. Reviewers complaining about quality are all using Creality Print for slicing instead of PrusaSlicer or something.
I had Bambu X1C did not work out of the box support took 5 days to respond ( I sent it back ) got the printer and it works out of the box. So impressed I order the K1 MAX not for cos play it will fit more items on the plate. I am waiting for someone to come up with a really good Pursa slicer settings
I ordered a K1 last night a bundle deal 1 kg filliment , 8(4 brass/4 hardened) nozzles , dryer and pirinter delivered 530.. this was cheaper then the printer its self..
Nice review! Since this is an enclosed printer, how well does it print ABS? Im not big on Cura not supporting it, but I may make an exception on this one. 🖖
I want to get this to replace my Ender3 but their slicer doesnt work on my chromebook. I'm waiting for them to update their Linux file to see if that will work. I contacted Ultimaker and they said they have no plans to make a K1 profile right now for Cura. Thats what I use now. Guess I'll just have to wait longer.
€815 on Amazon uk right now, plus €45 for the camera :) Still less than half of what I invested in my printing setup, which was relatively ok just this last December, but it already looks ancient nowadays... And I thought I've waited long enough before jumping in :( What impresses me the most though is its size! Is it really only 25cm wide?? That's less than half the width of the enclosure I built for my printer... I could really do with the much smaller enclosure. Heck, if the size for K1 is indeed 45D x 25W x 50H cm then I could simply put it inside my enclosure while also sitting on a concrete paving slab and a thick foam pad!
I could never buy another Creality machine as I have been stung far too many times, I want a tool changer printer that just works out of the box and does not have Prusa emblazened on it!
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I am not bothered about IDEX or the XL hence my Prusa comment, I had a deposit down for an XL but got so pissed off with all the delays I redeemed my deposit, I already built a fast printer, a Pro 3D V-King 400 which I built from self-sourced best qualility parts, I no longer have the time to build another printer or a carrot feeder for my V-King and so I will hold out for the new Bamboo Lab machine wheich is rumoured to be a direct competitor to the XL.
Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't everything be ok if say for example, I was to create tree supports in Cura...to a model at the correct size... then import it into Creality's slicer and go through the printing process that way. I have the printer on order as from today and as a workaround can't see why this wouldn't work... but I am new at this... Anyone?.. or is there now a slicer that may already support the tree support function that works with the K1?.
The fact they put ads in the app is all I think needs saying about this vs the Bambulab printers that just have fast, straight to the point feature rich and constantly updated apps.
Yeah I saw that as well, that’s gotta go. You don’t spend $550 on a printer only to be flooded with cheesy ads on your phone. I don’t even know what they are thinking with that one.
I didn't like closed source but Creality moving towards it to “defend” the K1 seems really odd to me, in fact using klipper in it’s entrails and lock it up it’s a shame, also using it’s own slicer locking the profiles… I don’t know it’s complicated decision for me that I’m searching to buy a printer capable of 200mm/s enclosed, and now with P1S is out with bigger print surface leans me to Bambu right now, but stills scratching my head on where to put 600-700$.
@@FilamentFridayCreality blocked the Klipper jailbreak. This makes me think the printer is a loss leader and the ultimate goal is to have people sign up for their paid cloud service.
Can I get OctoPrint to hook into this bad boy? I've got an Ender V2 and I hate when I'm in a 3 hour print, something breaks at 2 hours and 45 minutes (Typically something to do with the filament, ranging from snapping to clogs). At least with this, if it supported OctoPrint, I'd be able to get down to 30 minutes before I realized something broke....
K1 max has lidar and camera, it is the only difference of the two machines and of course build area. is it possible to upgrade K1 with lidar, Is it gone be better print with lidar?
its going to be a love hate thing, i am looking forward to getting a P1S we have a X1 at work and no issues, Creality are getting there with a clone of the X1/Voron but not for me, i love my ender 3, service me well for 3 years but time for a change.
Good printer, but just being able to have AMS is a win for bambulab in my opinion. Also Creality has a bad reputation and Bambu basically the opposite, I don't mind for a product being closed source if its really good.
@@akshatshah3717 stolen 3d models on creality cloud, not publishing source codes for replacement parts like the touchscreen. And now stealing open source projects and selling them as their own on the k1. (Klipper and Cura)
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 Seem to have differing prices on which site you go to. I used the link in the video description for creality official and that was the price given. However I have now found a better price by using search engines which point you direct to the creality store for your country. This shows a "Time limited price" of £521.10 after taxes. Normal price is £579 apparently. A bit messed up really.
Thanks for this review Chuck. You were the one that convinced me to get my first Ender 3 many years ago. Does anyone think that the lidar from the upcoming K1 Max will be available for this printer? Also waiting for some news about the announced Nebula pad.
LIDAR is a gimmick, as it's not needed for good prints. And many state that the LIDAR on the X1C is somewhat problematic and works as expected only 50% of the time.
I must say more than other videos this one bothered me in that it's directly sponsored by a Creality distributor then offers a glowing "review" of their printer which is a lower effort version of the actual innovator Bambulab. It says nothing of the ads in their app, their abuse of the klipper GPL license and purposeful attempts to hide it, their lack of anywhere near the software refinement in printer firmware, slicer software or app and the design flaws that have things like the lid popping off during printing. Creality has such a bad reputation for openly paying off reviewers (Tom S has directly talked about his experience and he is trust worthy), not crediting modelers they upload the content of, and being lazy in engineering it's agitating that with reviews like this that forget all their problems, they continue to be successful while being awful in many ways. At bare minimum though, I think this video deserves some sort of disclaimer with a sponsorship so closely linked with the company whose product is being "reviewed". That's just flying too close to the Sun for my taste.
@@FilamentFriday You sure about that? Go back and re watch it again. You said it was "the same qualtiy as my Ender 3 profiles"... Are your Ender 3 quality prints that bad too???
I like the unit a lot. But everyone is talking about how fast it is but from the pictures I'm seeing it still about the same as another printer. If you slow it down some is it any better quality.
All it need is just become open source and its good. But I do hate Creality pulling its BS again in terms of taking free open source (klipper this time) and close it with their software. Wish they could stop doing that.
Fantastic, Chuck! Thanks a bunch for the review! 😃 I was seriously considering the X1... But this is sounding much better! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
FYI - This wasn’t a review. I was just sharing how excited I was about printing fast with my K1. My X1 gives me so many errors I just can’t get into it. But I especially like the price wars because it will get more people into 3D printing who don’t want to hack an Ender 3. It’s been a lot of fun playing with the K1.
6:17 Yes, exactly 6 pins... or sometimes 7 :D
Good catch 😂
I just bought the K1, really high quality unit , zero assembly , literally take it out the box, remove he packing and print. Amazingly fast and accurate. I cannot speak highly enough of this little monster of a printer. AND DID I MENTION FAST. I have 7 3D printers but this is really next level, when you consider a Prusa 3 would cost you significantly more and the Prusa is toy compared with this
The Prusa MK3 is relatively cheap to come by these days. Especially when buying used. ;o) Maybe you meant the MK4?
but i dont get why speed is suddenly sooo important?! I guess many 3D printers are standing still during the night and the best part of the week. So there would be plenty of time to print things in between.
So is speed really the most important thing, especially for twice the price of a Sovol SV07
@@hassosigbjoernson5738
A new Prusa Mk3 delivered is $1130 plus AU$ with a two week delay before shipping. That's over $300 more than I paid for the K1 or in real terms 40% more.
The print quality on the K1 is second to none and thats at 300mm/sec , so there is no trade off between speed and quailty. Sovol missed the boat when they came out with the SV 07 , it should of been the same as the SV 06 but with the same bearing rods as the SV06 plus for great stiffness. I have both the SV06 nd the SV06 plus which are by far the best budget printers. But the SV07 is a step backwards for Sovol. I want to see a bed slinger with 2000mm / sec acceleration. It would rip the print off the best. Its that fast you literally cant see it move from one part to the next, its just a blur
Prusa is just another cheap product that attracts bougie assholes looking to 1-up their friends. If you’re still using a Prusa, high on the fumes of feeling better than everyone else, probably didn’t notice there’s way better options.
@@NicodemusT Does it really make you feel that smug and superior? That could be a tipping point, a feeling of self worth is indeed valuable. You sold me on it.
@@lance5041 you’ll be 5x more smug than me as soon as you plug it in. Feel high on your own fumes, just like someone who drinks bottled water.
I went with the P1S but this current race is great for consumers and the industry. If we want 3D printing to be mainstream, which it will be in a few years, this is how it’s going to happen. We need speed with quality and all for a reasonable price. Can’t wait to see what’s released next.
Speed maybe not the thing people are looking for. Because you can always print over night ... but reliability, easy to use and easy maintenance should be a mayor selling point, especially in the 2nd or 3rd iteration of the product after the first generation failed and got broken and people figured that repairability is a necessity.
I think people massively miss what Bambulab really brought to the table. Speed was already possible. High quality was possible. Exotic materials (undrler 300 c) was possible. Instead they packaged that up into an accessible machine and added features that made it pain free to use.
Anyone notice the 6 pin break actually gave 7 pins?😂
Part of the reason I’m making my own design.
I own 3 Bambu Lab X1C and one Creality K1 both offer their advantages and disadvantages and it is good that Creatlity fixed some issues. It's good that there is competition in both ends. The K1 got Bambu Lab to release the P1S fixing the open issue and allows competition.
I just got it and man I can't believe how affordable it is, $380 enclosed coreXY that works great out of the box
"its going to break off exactly six pins."
breaks off 7 pins 😅
Lol i was counting too i was like that doesnt look like 6
Picked 1 up yesterday and printed great straight out of the box, already had a blockage and a failed print but both due to user error I think, back up and running and working great!
What is never mentioned (except by CNC Kitchen who actually ran this test) is the strength you sacrifice when printing so fast. The plastic needs time for the heat to melt into itself and bond properly for good strength. If you're printing models then all is fine, but if you need strong parts, you're layers may let you down because they aren't properly fused together.
Also, your prints are only going to be as good as your filament. Many people assume spending lots of money means better quality an precision. It puts you in a better position to achieve it, but many tinkerers know how to get the best from their machine with a certain brand of filament. It's not always going to be like that though because many manufacturers, particularly Amazon sellers, change their stock to more and more shoddy materials and still sell under the same guise once they got a highly positive review count. I say that people need to really ask themselves if it's worth it for them, and temper their expectations. I'm keeping my A10M for now. It's small enough and lightweight to put away when I'm not using, and I can run it while watching TV without getting a headache. It's reliable and simple and I can access everything as problems arise
The point simply is: you CAN go fast, if you want to. Like with big projects.
But you dont have to!
What is a bummer to me is: none of this "speed" printers has a "silent and slow" mode integrated which turn down the fans and the speed to actually print in your living room without the noise. But since you can adjust the printing speed in the slicer: you can actually go slow if a part needs the strength or something.
Partly true, but in my tests you can get away with fast printing for more than just models. I print a lot of tool holders that do have some static forces applied to them and they're fine; so long as you're thoughtful about your layer orientation (which you need to be anyway) it's a relatively moderate challenge.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I'm aware you can slow it down and not get the violent sounds, but my question then becomes.... what are you paying for? Don't get me wrong, having the option to go fast would be great, but I feel that people need to temper their expectations. I recently learned that as great as Bambu Labs latest offerings appear to be, they aren't infallible, and many reviewers show off models that look awesome, because of the way they light them. When others show the light directly from above, you still see the flaws in the layers that you see from much cheaper printers. I've also since seen that they still do spaghetti prints and get jams and clogs, despite having settings that are supposed to stop this. Many tinkerers are still playing with these expensive printers to get better prints from them. And some look much more difficult than basic printers to get apart when they go wrong.
@@ed3dnet Can I ask what speeds you get away with for such things? Not that tool holders need to be strong if we're talking about a few Allen keys and snippers. I'm talking about brackets such as those on a toilet seat, where people sit on it and put real strain on it. I print no faster than 28mm/s at 205c to get good strength and accuracy from PLA+ and they are stronger than the broken parts they replace. I also made a shower screen bracket which holds a massive curved glass door with standard PLA. These fixes alone have paid for my dual extruder printer.
@@ArcanePath360 "what are you paying for?" ... Well that would be the option to do it if needed.
Just because a sports car can go fast it does not always need to! ;o)
I do also like the design of these new, enclosed printers. They do look a lot better! And people are willing to pay for good design, too.
You still can start with an open, cheap, much more simple machine like a Sovol SV06. And it's good you have all the options, I guess.
And yes those machines are not perfect! A very good print also needs some good profiles and a bit of tuning. But don't get caught with high resolution and perfect lighting detail shots of prints! It's like looking with a microscope on things. After all FDM is not perfect.
I also cannot understand why Bambu Lab and Creality do not implement a slower print profile ... maybe half as fast as the normal print speed but with less noise and maybe also an even higher quality. This is something I would go for! Make that printer a bit slower but also much more silent for every day printing, use the enclosed design with a filter like the nevermore to get rid of the fumes and if the time is tight have the option of printing load and fast.
Chuck i'm glad you like it , no one else does.
Pipe down bambu paid pumper 😂
"no one else does" ... Is that so?!
To be fair, other reviewers had a more in depth review and more pros and cons listed. But ALL of them liked some aspects of the machine.
Take the review of "The 3D Printing Zone" ... just in the first 30 seconds he says, that he likes the machine but does not recommend it. Later on in most reviews the reason is clear: software. It is not as evolved as the software a Bambu machine runs. (Just remember that Bambu Studio slicer is a rip off of Prusa Slicer and they dont wanted to admit that in the first place .... month later they have)
That problem was also addressed here, if you watch closely: Chuck says he does not like cloud and does not use the app and uses the good old USB drive instead. So it's up to you, what you make out of that.
But all reviews I watched pointed out how impressive the hardware with that price point is! A week ago (before the Bambu P1s was announced) you had to get the X1C for like double the price to get such a fast, enclosed out-of-the-box machine, especially if you dont want to modify it (like enclosing the P1P).
The "hope" here is that Creality goes all in with open source and commit to that! A simply accessible Klipper firmware and official profiles for the latest CURA slicer would be a huge improvement with this machine and a big plus over the closed source Bambu Lab printers.
Creality is doing Creality things again and presented a not so polished product with the K1. But give it some weeks and most things are going to be improved, like the extruder issue most reviewers had with the first charge of machines.
Of course he does! It's a paid review in that he got 2 free printers.
Read the comments, plenty of happy people.
Thanks CHEP. Looks like a great printer.
Waiting for the K1 max. Glad the bugs are getting worked out with the K1
We really have Comgrow's finest in here, don't we? "We're going to open-source it in the future" doesn't mean they aren't willfully noncompliant now.
How are the closed-source Cura fork and the against-the-license Klipper fork "closer to open source" than a fully open-source Bambu Studio (modulo their network connector, which does suck) and a acceptable-by-license homegrown firmware that is not willfully noncompliant with the GPL?
I really appreciate your comment becuase it was like I was taking crazy pills.
Like are we really pretending an innovative new company that changed the whole space and doesn't violate licenses is in any way to a company with a litany of on going violations in multiple areas that has bribed reviewers? It's absurd. Creality doesn't just not have a spotless reputation. Creality has a terrible reputation.
They are good printers when they work, when they don't then forget about help from customer services. I belong to a group of disabled pensioners here in the UK, we decided as our bodies weren't working we could at least keep our minds active. So we all (5 of us) decided we would like to do 3D printing. And as usual it's up to me to buy one for testing to show the others how to use them. Anyway it was decided to get an Ender 3 V2 Neo. When it arrived there was no tool kit to assemble it, so I had to go out to buy the Allen Keys. After assembly I noticed filament on the bed and nozzle. On trying out the printer it had a few faults, the levelling adjusters we tight as a drum and I it took ages to release them, the printer had other faults as well and didn't work. So I contacted their customer support and waited, and waited..............and nothing. After numerous complaints they eventually asked me to forward a copy of my receipt and a photo of the serial number on the printer, this I did and emailed them back. And once again no response at all. After more complaints they sent me an email saying "SORRY". And that was it, nothing else, no offer to replace the faulty pre used printer, just SORRY. So after some time the printer was sold as spares. We were going to buy a Bambu but funds are limited and we ended up with another Ender 3 V2 Neo, this time the Snips were snapped in two, so once again I contacted them and eventually they asked for a photo of the broken item. I couldn't believe it when the actually replaced them. The new printer seems to be working ok but looking at more reviews I find I may have made a terrible mistake. So we are looking at other printers and trying to find a reliable model that won't need upgrading soon after buying it. When anyone asks me I am saying to keep well away from Creality/Comgrow printers. Any ideas?
>Expecting stable 3D printer.
You picked wrong hobby, mate
@@kord2003 No, imy problem is that Creality sold me a used, faulty printer, all I wanted was for them to replace it and they ignored all my emails. Anyway by law they have to so I'm going down the legal route.
@@davidharle952 Creality is a chinese company. Good luck xDDD
You often have some filament in the nozzle as they test the machine in the factory, but they make it hard for customers. Overtightened belts indicates a customer return to me.
This hobby is where PCs were in 1996. Seniors today will be deceased by the time printing doesn't require skills much more common to machinists and coders who are just as enthused with learning the machines and correcting garbage lazy design choices (which do not make the product cheaper to produce). The death of Western manufacturing means everything affordable will basically require a rebuild by technician skilled in relevant trades. W. Edwards Deming is a hero in Japan, not China.
6:13.... Errr... cough... cough... I count 7 pins Chuck
Thanks looks like an amazing printer
My microcenter is selling these for 350, i may have to pick one up
I have to point this out - it's astounding how this and other K1 reviews praise the K1 profusely, but the same reviewer slammed Bambu for things both printers have in common. You don't like the Bambu, but you like the Creality because it's open source? Creality Slicer is not open source. Bambu Studio is. Why do you trust Creality is going to make the printer firmware more open when they literally just patched the way people could actually make it open source and put a proper version of Klipper on it?! Meanwhile, Creality isn't publishing the source code for their klipper install, which is openly violating open source software licensing. You criticized the Bambu for not being open source hardware spec. Neither is the K1, but you apparently love it.
If you're pro-open source, you should be slamming the K1 as an abomination considering your criticisms of the Bambu Labs X1 Carbon. If you don't like either one since open source is important to you, I get it. But this? C'mon man.
He says in many videos that he does like Bambu Lab printers.
Bambu Studio just "made" open source as people found out it was a rip off of Prusa Slicer.
Are you really sure Bambu Lab is NOT using Klipper in the background? Because it's closet source nobody can tell.
But yes, Creality is acting shady here instead of embracing open source and partnering with Klipper or the community. So I have the feeling they are doing the same thing that BL does.
And no, I don't think that Bambu Lab reinvented what the Vorons and Klipper already achieved. They are just hiding it better.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738my guy I don't know whose dick you're riding here but I think this is the 7th or 8th comment that I've seen trying to bash BambuLabs in various comment threads. Log off the internet for a bit.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738People “found out” Bambu Studio is based on Prusaslicer because Bambu was up front and said it was a fork of Prusaslicer. Bambu also made VERY significant contributions to the code. At the time of release, Bambu had tree supports. Prusaslicer did not. Bambu Studio was such a good slicer, the community forked it in the form of Orcaslicer. Bambu Studio is no more a “rip off” of Prusaslicer than Prusaslicer was a stollen Slic3r. You’re spewing absolute nonsense. Bambu complied with open source licensing agreements other than they didn’t initially release the source code as soon as they should have, but they did release it. Creality still has not released their klipper source code they’re required to do, and Chep in the video also mentioned Creality Slicer is based on Cura which is also open source, and where’s the source code for Creality Slicer? You have zero proof Bambu’s printer firmware is based on Klipper. That is purely idle speculation. These two companies are not behaving the same way. I’m not happy with a few things Bambu has done, but that doesn’t mean they’re remotely the equivalent of what Creality is doing and justifies completely unfounded speculation about their firmware.
Good review Chuck! I can’t wait to see what you are able to do with it! I’m wanting a new printer, this, and Bambi are on the list both have their pro’s and some con’s, so I’ll wait a while longer to see if it all improves, in the meantime I’ll continue to use my slow little Ender3. Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi Chuck, please consider a quality test, what is the best quality print you achieve, if you didn't worry about print speed? Thx Andy
I’m working on that. More videos to come.
First review I've seen that actually liked this printer.
That's because everyone's, like mine.. Breaks and you can't get parts from them. Or anywhere. So I have, a brick
First positive review I've watched/read for the k1 as well.
Many reviews of the K1 have positive aspects! But people forget: you have to "read" the review and have in mind that it's only referring to the situation at that time.
Things are developing. And Chuck did say that in the video. He also neglected to use the app which other reviewers did. Maybe this would be the first learning out of the first reviews.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I hear what you are saying. I'm going to wait a little to see what Creality does to make things better. On another topic, your name is clearly Scandinavian, but I can't place which country. My first guess would be Swedish, but I don't want to get it wrong so I won't guess! 😜
Love to hear your perspective Chuck. I've had my P1P about 3 weeks now, and I will tell you I will not be going back to an ender three type machine ever again. I was interested in the k1 and the k1 Max but I do too much multi-color printing and without a dedicated AMS solution on the horizon, for me, it put the P1P over the reality machine. . Find the P1P operating system to be much more user friendly, at least for the way that I think and work
P1p has screen from the 1980s
@@irbose9895he K1 has a multimaterial system from Fantasyland in that it doesn’t exist. Did you even bother reading his comment before you blindly slammed the Bambu for something that doesn’t matter to him as much?
@RoXolid I am also interested in multicolor printing but the price of that AMS is to high for me for "just having the option". I am also concerned about the waste issues with that AMS. In some cases it produces much more waste than the actual part itself.
That why I am thinking about an IDEX machine like the Sovol SV04 IDEX. It reduces the waste because of dual tool head but is only giving 2 color option without changing filament in between. But it's significantly less poop which is a good thing. A manual change of filament during the print is also an option for me. Depending on the model and how it is positioned it would not be a problem if like 3 colors are needed and the last one only at the top...
The multi toolhead system that Prusa is working on would be another option! But at what price?
And there are concerns with Bambu Lab being closed source, which is a problem for the community I think! They used the PrusaSlicer for their own purposes which benefits also the more "user friendly" handling you mentioned ... but they are not giving anything back to the community and had to be pressured to make Bambu Studio also public on Github. If Creality also goes that route than 3D printing is changing.
But since the AMS is a huge selling point for the Bambu machines ... there could be another manufacturer already be working on an alternative.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738Prusa by your logic used Slic3r for their own ends! Those evil SOBs! How dare they fork an open source project openly, improve it, and release the source code! *clutching pearls*
@@irbose9895 Yes, that screen I thought was the first thing that would go during an upgrade, what were they thinking!
My experience was a little different, I found that there is no toll-free support phone number to call, you have to use chat support. I had 4 different incognito support chat windows open since the morning which extended passed 1 in the afternoon and all chats auto closed on me and asked me to leave an email instead. I am a cyber security person by day and I have to say their support is negatively impactful and you might as well have a brick for a printer WHEN it malfunctions. Great features and all but not if they don't work.
Thanks for the great review of the K1. I received mine 2 weeks ago and it has been a real workhorse. Fast and reliable. My only issue is with their cloud function. Or lack of. I like to send prints to the queue on the printer straight from my laptop. The Creality Cloud sucks. It just doesn’t work over half the time. Trying to do it through the Creality slicer is hit and miss, mostly miss. The slicer itself is quite good, but a little clunky. I have tried Cura and Prusa Slicer, but it is a lot of work to get a good profile. Interestingly Simplyfi3D has an excellent profile for the K1, it is the only reason I am glad that I updated to Version 5.
I saw a video of the mobile App. and the ad fest and was genuinely shocked at just how many advertisements there were, it's a constant barrage!
It's a great time to get into 3D printing, but my 2+ year old Ender 3 v2 with a few mods (mainly dual Z rods, PEI bed & Klipper) prints beautifully, accurately and reliably every time, so I will not be upgrading anytime soon
mine arrives on Monday, I'm looking forward to print something with it
I took an Ender3 S1 Pro profile from Cura and just increased the print speed and temperature for the K1 and got good results at 200mm/s. My 2 day print was down to 16 hours and looked great. I hope to see a Cura profile specifically for the K1 soon but so far this has worked for me.
I didn't even know there was a S1 Pro profile, good to know as someone who owns an S1 Pro
Been looking for an upgrade to my beloved Ender 2pro, this seems like a decent option. I'm used to Creality already and am interested in doing ABS with the enclosure.
how can you be "used to creality"? they make a marlin printer, it's literally swappable for Sovol (who use Creality parts, their belt tensioners *are* the ones from a CR-10 Smart and other printers) or Elegoo (who make better stuff) or whatever.
Creality doesn't *make* much of anything, though I guess now they figured out how to fab an enclosure. They're an assembler of parts.
You're getting a VIP treatment, you can't objectively review this.
Also a big brand that has built millions of printers releasing an early model with a crappy print head is pretty unforgiveable.
And they're also openly in violation of open source licensing since they mutilated Klipper and stopped the way people were able to put a proper version of klipper on it via an update without releasing the source code.
@@heroflying Bambu openly violated Prus Slicer s open source since at the beginning they where NOT giving Prusa Slicer it's credit with their "own" Bambu Studio.
The first Bambu Lab printers had problems, too. Many reviewers said they received spare parts or a second unit.
It seems they rushed it out, yes. It seems like a common phenomenon these days also with Smartphone software, triple A video games or 3D printers. The Mk4 was released without the it's real "Klipper like" firmware.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738This is BS. bambu was open from the beginning it was a fork of Prusaslicer. They didn’t release the source code quite as soon as they should have by a month, but they did release the source code. Creality still has not. Bambu also significantly added functionality to Prusaslicer, they didn’t just release a Prusaslicer clone. This is obvious just in them beating Prusaslicer on tree supports by almost a year.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738Bambu printers on release to reviewers did not release with show stopping “the extruder doesn’t work” problems. Many reviewers to this day still don’t have a working extruder. Bambu has only had to make some minor design changes mainly to the AMS to resolve minor issues. The overwhelming majority of X1 Carbons had no major problems upon release with something as simple as basic extrusions. The K1 did, so much so that Nathan Builds Robots designed an adapter because even his new revision extruder didn’t work either. NBR you might also point out had issues with the kinematics in his first bambu - which ended up being if I remember he got skin oil on the rod or something like that which wasn’t the printer’s fault. Sorry, they’re not remotely comparable here.
Just picked one up for $379 @ microcenter. Thanks, Chuck! :)
from multiple reviews and live streams everyone says the K1 sounds like a vacuum when it's running, is in breach of open source license agreements, and the "open source" parts and still just the nozzles. You can't even get a replacement hot end, if your belts wear out you are stuck with third party ones which void your warranty, no extruders (not that you could tune E-Stepping anyway) they don't even have K1 Max buildplates available. I'll take a closed system with easy part availability over a claimed open system with zero repair-ability.
Thanks a lot! I have built and designed a few 3d printers.
But at one time you just want to print and not tinker.
I purchased one.
What a nice review.
That made me take the jump, and ordered the K1👍
Man do I really want a core XY printer. My heavily modified CR10S2 is looking long in the tooth now.
Very interesting! Maybe for xmas. 😁
I love this printer, it's crazy fast! Thanks for the video.
Excellent,
Please let me know when you are able to access the advance Klipper options for K1 and K1 Max
I beat the k1 and ke slicer settings.
Whit 2 minutes.
In my cura setting for the se .
So Nice.
Thanks chep.
I use a 0.4 nozzle.
And the Print speed is set at 500.
Whit 5 slower layers.
Temp buildplate 70.
And petg no problems
Where do you share your profile?
How does print quality compare to Bambu and Prusa mk4 ? Print quality reliability and error detection are the top 3 issues for me.
I was looking at one of these. Definitely going to be my 3ed printer now. Have a ender 3 v2 and a anycubic koba neo. Love them both but i want something that prints faster. Cant wait to get your amazing profiles for the k1.
if you print with the sonic pad on your ender 3's its ok. i dont want to print with marlin anymore on my ender3's
Who cares who steals what Big business does it all the time .Chep is a straight guy !! He's not here to discuss corporate business practices
This is really intriguing, if they follow through with being open source on this like the ender 3, I would be very interested in buying one at some point. I have the original ender 3 that I still use today, and this would be a fantastic upgrade to bring my hobby up to modern printing standards. Being more compatible with common replacement parts, unlike bambulabs, would be a very attractive factor in justifying the cost.
Great review and enjoying the competition heating up. It can only mean better printers. My interest lies in the K-1 Max size. My heavily modded CR-10 has been my workhorse and a 300mm x 300mm print bed version of the K1 or Bambu or ? is my next purchase and I will be patient. I prefer a truly open printer as we have a great aftermarket community who made my original CR-10 and my other printers even better and trouble free. I hope the same will happen for whoever emerges as the open source leader for this generation.
Maybe it'll mean better printers. It might just mean cheaper and cheaper clones. We've certainly seen that before.
@@timandrew4515 Well in some way the Bambu Lab X1C is a cheaper "clone" of a Voron 2.4 without the hassle to build it by yourself.
The P1P and P1S is a cheaper version of that X1C.
Than Bambu Lab had lowered the prices of that P1P.
The Sovol SV06 is a cheaper clone of the MK3.
But isn't that good for the customer and a byproduct of things developing? And isn't cloning one fundamental aspect of the 3D printing community and the idea behind Rep Rap?!
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I no way is what you said remotely true. To call them a clone of Vorons is to know nothing of manufacturing processes or user experiences.
Just for starters, Bambulabs have more in common with computer cases and rc drones build wise than they do vorons, and you show me a voron that auto tunes as much as the Bambulab does. It's ridiculous to call it a clone.
I upgraded most of my older 3d printers to Klipper and am running at about twice the speed. Still very slow compared to these new printers. Nice to to see the improvements. Though I personally can't justify the money for simply a faster printer. Now figure out multi color without wasting so much filament, and faster speed on that end, and few other innovations along with the speed. That is where I will be interested again. Well unless a box full of money falls into my lap. Then I might try :)
There is talk that the other new printer due for release by Bamboo is a tool changer which will have significantly less wastage than the AMS
creality will be offering de ai camera and spare struder and hotend on july 20, another plus
My guess is that $539 is only directly thru Creality, as Amazon still shows it at $629.
They may have lowered the price to compete the new Bambu P1S, which is bigger(256x256x256), capable of AMS, and also enclosed, and priced at $699.
Priced to compete with P1P.
There are several discount codes for $30/€30, no one mentioned, no one forgotten, look around!
i just got the one on amazon for 629 it comes with a 94 dollar coupon code so 535
I received my K1 Max this weekend. I did about 10 pints (Creality's Benchy, Standalone Spool Holder, and misc small stuff) in white Hyper PLA. I decided to try printing Overture PETG and my part printed with issues that look to me like part cooling issues. Basically, the part was oriented in the center of the build plate parallel to the front and back sides. The part cooling fan on the right side was blocked from object side walls to cool interior spaces.After finishing the print I retracted the PETG filament and sealed it up for the night. The next morning, I tried to print with Hyper PLA filament, but I could not extract it. After reviewing Creality's various repair videos, I removed the extruder and found nothing wrong. I moved onto removing the nozzle. Using Creality's supplied cleanout rod I could not feed it through the hotend from either the bottom or the top. After heating up the hot end (with the nozzle removed) I used the cleanout probe again and got some black PETG filament out but I still could not feed the rod all the way through. I used a lighter to heat up the rod and was finally able to clear the hotend or so I presumed. I replaced the nozzle and put the hotend back together. I printed a replacement spool holder with bearings in Amazon Basics PLA and all seemed well. The next day when using Amazon Basic PLA again I could not extrude filament. I removed the filament and the Bowden tube from the extruder. I reused the cleanout tool from the top side and found more filament blocking the throat of the unit. I heated up the nozzle but I still couldn't clear the clog from the topside. I heated the rod for a few seconds with a lighter and this cleared the clog (so I presumed). I was able to extrude Amazon Basics PLA so I started another side mounted spool holder. The first layers had some issues due to not enough glue stick being applied for the size of the part. The first layer wasn't perfect, but I let it go. After about 4 or 5 layers the printer speeded up printing of a cross hatch infill pattern. The cross hatches came out in blobs and didn't stick to the smooth layers printed previously. I stopped the print and decided to use Creality Hyper PLA. This turned out to be worse. First layers were better, but the high-speed infill layer didn't stick at all and globs of filament and small filament pieces were everywhere. The Lidar didn't stop the printing either (not sure if I need to turn it on or what). Looking at the Generic and Hyper PLA filament profiles provided in Creality print the speed for both profiles is identical (300 mm/s first layers, 300 mm/s outer wall speed and infill speed of 500 mm/s). I presume printing was failing at 500 mm/s - I was surprised to see the non-Hyper filament was configured to try using 500 mm/s. Anyway, I am going to try Creality's Benchy with Hyper PLA to see if my printer has a flow issue due to clog remnants. Sorry for the long comment. Keep up the good work. Perhaps some a speed test cubes are needed to tune filament profiles similar to temperature towers.
Benchy is printing fine so I just need to "tune" print speed for the side mount print holder I was trying to make. Oddly this is from someone who made it for their K1 printer. No comments were included with the model. Regarding the Lidar module. I don't see a what looks like a LED on the bottom of the Lidar unit lit. Perhaps when I replaced the nozzle I got the Lidar wiring reversed. I will check this out.
K1 or ender 3 ke? Which one to choose
Competition = good.
Will I get one? Probably not. I don't trust creality quality controll (it may got better just will belive when I see it). Will have to make choice in three months+ so plenty of time to decide (maybe there will be something new :D).
Heard something about issues with cable hitting lid. Was there any issue with that?
I’m looking to buy one of these used. How do I know if it has the new extruder or old? Can you purchase the new version of the extruder anywhere? Thanks.
Your videos are awesome! Thanks a lot!
W8ing for the K1 max. I really want the build area and speed of a VzBot. But it's the old time versus cost dilemma. We'll see where creality lands in that respect b4 I pull the trigger.
So get a P1S at 256x256x256
the world needs more K1's & bambulab competition
i really want to get a k1 especially the max
the things that held me back was the lack of being able to buy the ceramic heaters and the plastic extruder gears.
the ceramic heaters now seem to be available and there are 3rd party options which is good.
but I'm still wary of the long term use of the plastic gears.
I'm sure these problems will be addressed but i hope sooner rather than later.
I like the Qidi Tech Plus 3 - 280x280x270 with Klipper
@riverracer - It looks like an interesting option.
Sadly i am having a ton of issues with mine now. I have about 250 hours of print time logged. It has now started doing funny things like printing out into space at random intervals. I installed the camera, which seems to give 100 false positives for errors, but on some major prints where it printed a full formed spaghetti monster, the ai detection system thought it was AOK. I am on my second extruder, waiting for the third. There is some path issue where filament can break off inside the extruder unit and jam it. Sadly Creality's support has not been super helpful. I am waiting to hear back on the next thing they want me try, which is checking cable runs to the main board (but they did not specify where it is on this machine)
Have you tried the Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro? At sub $300 for a fast printer, I would be interested to see what you think?
Does it have auto leveling?
I have this machine now for 3 weeks, its an awesome machine !!!! i only dont like the filamentfeeding and the filament holder on its back, that ive changed with an update from thingiverse. Chuck, maybe you cant find out how colorchanging works during midprints. Cura has a setting to change the filament, but couldnt find that option in creality print. Otherwise its a great great machine !!!
Hope to never have another Creality product again after treating me like a criminal for asking to buy spare parts for my Sermoon D1. Would not talk to me unless I supplied a serial # and receipt. Just wanted extra parts, not repair and they quit support months after I purchased it the first week they released. Still don't understand why you have to jailbreak to pause to change filament colors.
Christ. Own up to your own choices.
@@NicodemusT my own choices? It was a bad choice to trust a large, established company to provide support after the sale. And all I wanted was an extra build plate and hot end. There aren't any parts listings in the store for a new 3D printer even after 6 months? Good luck with anything new from Creality if it breaks. And the support completely sucks.
Nice ad, will there be a review later?
Also the X1C has lighter carbon rods. How would it ever be rocking around more than a K1?
@@nathantanti8283 those carbon rods won’t last long, they just keep grinding away into dust
@@irbose9895 Dont think so. Carbon has fantastic wear and a low drag coeficcient making it ideal.
@@nathantanti8283 The X1C is TWICE as much! For a hobby 3D printer that maybe is far too much for many people.
The P1s is a better comparison, still the K1 is cheaper.
The price is the main selling point here ... and for that there have to been made some compromises, especially since Creality is not known for bringing a very polished product to the consumer. The K1 and it's software is going to be improved. But it is good that there is an alternative to the Bambu machines, because competition is always good.
Let's see how things are developing.
The fact that the Bambu Slicer requires a login - as best as I understand - leads me back to Creality. I think I will stay with my Ender 3 until all this dust settles. I have been screwed by web dependent software one too many times to take a chance on a new company (Bambu) who just might decide to start charging subscription fees.
Bamboo can be used in local mode, no cloud at all.
@@hugolatra in lan mode u lose access to the mobile app and printer camera for remote monitoring. And you’ll eventually have to do a firmware update where they’ll extract every single log from your machine, rip bambu spies
@@irbose9895Bambu Slicer 1.7 adds camera access in LAN mode. Also, do tell how Creality will allow their smart app access to the printer not connected to the internet. Also also, it’s interesting how you’re so concerned about privacy with Bambu and completely skip over how the Creality smart app is laden with adware.
Yes, there’s privacy concerns with Bambu. That’s 100% a valid concern with the printer, but you’re clearly not interested in a fair and balanced conversation here.
@@heroflying Both companies have issues here! Remember Bambu Lab didn't wanted to admit they used PrusaSlicer as a base for their Bambu Studio?! So much of the praises that goes with the software is due to Prusas great work over the years with their slicer... I wouldn't be surprised if also Klipper is running in the background of the Bambu machines with Bambu Lab hiding it better.
Closed source is always a problem, especially in 3D printing. Creality seems to be wanting to do the same as Bambu Lab did with their new software. Fingers crossed that they fully commit to open source instead and open up the access to Klipper on this machine! Especially the fluidd interface with a mobile browser - without the need to have any kind of app in a network - could be a huge benefit here!
But as it stands now: If you want a "Voron like machine" without the need to build it by yourself and an attractive price point of 600 - 700 bucks you have to make compromises and give something up! That is the idea of open source in the first place, maybe more of your data in the second.
The K1 is cheaper than a Bambu P1S or X1, but the software is less finished.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738ven if you say it 1000 times, it still doesn’t make it true that Bambu “stole” from Prusaslicer, they were honest about it being a fork from the get go, released the source code, and contributed lots of code they came up with. Again, Prusaslicer just recently got tree supports in 2.6. Bambu had it on initial release last year. Your claim is horse crap. You know who else did the same thing? PRUSA! Prusaslicer is a fork of Slic3r. Stop spreading BS.
Its give you 7 pins man :)
Nice…could you confirm that quality-wise we are on par with an ender 3? I saw all the review and the all say “quality is not great BUT at this speed…”
The quality is better than my P1P many times. Reviewers complaining about quality are all using Creality Print for slicing instead of PrusaSlicer or something.
So how about using the magnetic pad from the 3 in the K1. Why not?
I had Bambu X1C did not work out of the box support took 5 days to respond ( I sent it back ) got the printer and it works out of the box. So impressed I order the K1 MAX not for cos play it will fit more items on the plate. I am waiting for someone to come up with a really good Pursa slicer settings
My P1P stopped working after only 10hrs and took a month to get a replacement part. bambu lab printers are over hyped junk.
I ordered a K1 last night a bundle deal 1 kg filliment , 8(4 brass/4 hardened) nozzles , dryer and pirinter delivered 530.. this was cheaper then the printer its self..
Where'd you get that deal?
@@jeffreymeeks9080 Crealitys web site
@@jeffreymeeks9080 Yah from the 4 th of July to the 15 th of July is when the sale was going ...I want back to PayPal $520.24 after 118.?? discount...
Nice review! Since this is an enclosed printer, how well does it print ABS? Im not big on Cura not supporting it, but I may make an exception on this one. 🖖
I want to get this to replace my Ender3 but their slicer doesnt work on my chromebook. I'm waiting for them to update their Linux file to see if that will work. I contacted Ultimaker and they said they have no plans to make a K1 profile right now for Cura. Thats what I use now. Guess I'll just have to wait longer.
If Sylvester Stallone decided to be an engineer instead:
€815 on Amazon uk right now, plus €45 for the camera :) Still less than half of what I invested in my printing setup, which was relatively ok just this last December, but it already looks ancient nowadays... And I thought I've waited long enough before jumping in :(
What impresses me the most though is its size! Is it really only 25cm wide?? That's less than half the width of the enclosure I built for my printer... I could really do with the much smaller enclosure. Heck, if the size for K1 is indeed 45D x 25W x 50H cm then I could simply put it inside my enclosure while also sitting on a concrete paving slab and a thick foam pad!
I could never buy another Creality machine as I have been stung far too many times, I want a tool changer printer that just works out of the box and does not have Prusa emblazened on it!
Tool changer? Prusa is developing one. You got some Voron projects working on. And you could use an IDEX machine in between, like the Sovol SV04.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I am not bothered about IDEX or the XL hence my Prusa comment, I had a deposit down for an XL but got so pissed off with all the delays I redeemed my deposit, I already built a fast printer, a Pro 3D V-King 400 which I built from self-sourced best qualility parts, I no longer have the time to build another printer or a carrot feeder for my V-King and so I will hold out for the new Bamboo Lab machine wheich is rumoured to be a direct competitor to the XL.
Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't everything be ok if say for example, I was to create tree supports in Cura...to a model at the correct size... then import it into Creality's slicer and go through the printing process that way.
I have the printer on order as from today and as a workaround can't see why this wouldn't work... but I am new at this... Anyone?.. or is there now a slicer that may already support the tree support function that works with the K1?.
The link for the single piece of 'Original Header tool' doesn't work. Has anyone found it someplace else?
It’s been fixed. Try again.
The fact they put ads in the app is all I think needs saying about this vs the Bambulab printers that just have fast, straight to the point feature rich and constantly updated apps.
Yeah I saw that as well, that’s gotta go. You don’t spend $550 on a printer only to be flooded with cheesy ads on your phone. I don’t even know what they are thinking with that one.
You can opt out of the ads. and you dont need the app to print. But I dont like this app either.
just ordered my K1 today coming on tuesday via DPD got it for £354.99 why do printer company put the spool holder on the back make no sense all
Where did you pick that up ?
I didn't like closed source but Creality moving towards it to “defend” the K1 seems really odd to me, in fact using klipper in it’s entrails and lock it up it’s a shame, also using it’s own slicer locking the profiles… I don’t know it’s complicated decision for me that I’m searching to buy a printer capable of 200mm/s enclosed, and now with P1S is out with bigger print surface leans me to Bambu right now, but stills scratching my head on where to put 600-700$.
They have a nice acrylic cover to buy for the Ender 5 S1. You can easily add the Sonic Pad so you might consider that.
Waiting for my K1 and prepping to do possible upgrades to make it work correctly. Hoping it doesn’t have the defects others are facing.
What upgrades are you planning?
@@FilamentFriday Extruder swap
@@FilamentFriday Also a jailbreak to fully unlock the klipper firmware
@@FilamentFridayCreality blocked the Klipper jailbreak. This makes me think the printer is a loss leader and the ultimate goal is to have people sign up for their paid cloud service.
@@FilamentFriday the K1 just got delivered 😎 I’ll post my impressions here
K1 Tolerances.
What is the best way to deal with part tolerances on K1?
Can I get OctoPrint to hook into this bad boy? I've got an Ender V2 and I hate when I'm in a 3 hour print, something breaks at 2 hours and 45 minutes (Typically something to do with the filament, ranging from snapping to clogs). At least with this, if it supported OctoPrint, I'd be able to get down to 30 minutes before I realized something broke....
K1 max has lidar and camera, it is the only difference of the two machines and of course build area. is it possible to upgrade K1 with lidar, Is it gone be better print with lidar?
maybe not now but it will surely come because creality likes the modding community.
It’s coming and will be called the K1C.
@@FilamentFriday I got a good black freddy deal, so I jumped at the chance and bought myself a Creality K1 thanks to your reply :)
How's the fume containment if I want to do ABS again someday?
How do I tell if I have the new extruder or the old on my K1?
Old one is shiny
It's not even a bad price
its going to be a love hate thing, i am looking forward to getting a P1S we have a X1 at work and no issues, Creality are getting there with a clone of the X1/Voron but not for me, i love my ender 3, service me well for 3 years but time for a change.
Can you regular pla+ on 600mms ?
Very cool printer😎👍. Unfortunately, creality does not ship to germany so I have to wait until some reseller does😅.
3DJake has the K1 on offer.
K1 "review" sponsored by Bambu lab ? I'm a bit confuse
Are u new to UA-cam lmao 😂
Is it a review?! Chuck says in the video it's not. It's just an opinion.
Good printer, but just being able to have AMS is a win for bambulab in my opinion. Also Creality has a bad reputation and Bambu basically the opposite, I don't mind for a product being closed source if its really good.
The creality can used the voron version of filament change that not youtube are taking about
I've heard some horror stories about bambu. But that AMS multicolor or dissolvable supports is enticing
Since when has creality had a bad rep lmfao
@@akshatshah3717 stolen 3d models on creality cloud, not publishing source codes for replacement parts like the touchscreen.
And now stealing open source projects and selling them as their own on the k1. (Klipper and Cura)
@@CookieEliminator So they do what EVERY company does? Ever heard of a little company called apple?
650 shipped from EU :/
Showing in their store as $679 before taxes (so add another 20% for VAT) in the UK!
@@tinplategeektoo too dear :)
Yeah the 'good' prices are only for the rich 'Americans' LOL 🤣
On sale at the German store (shipped from the EU) for 584 €.
The P1S would be 749 €.
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 Seem to have differing prices on which site you go to. I used the link in the video description for creality official and that was the price given. However I have now found a better price by using search engines which point you direct to the creality store for your country. This shows a "Time limited price" of £521.10 after taxes. Normal price is £579 apparently. A bit messed up really.
Thanks for this review Chuck. You were the one that convinced me to get my first Ender 3 many years ago.
Does anyone think that the lidar from the upcoming K1 Max will be available for this printer? Also waiting for some news about the announced Nebula pad.
The P1P shows: a LIDAR is simply not necessary to print down a good first layer.
The connectors are available on the tool head, I think.
LIDAR is a gimmick, as it's not needed for good prints. And many state that the LIDAR on the X1C is somewhat problematic and works as expected only 50% of the time.
Review or Commercial?
Neither which is said in the video. It's his opinion on another option on the market.
I must say more than other videos this one bothered me in that it's directly sponsored by a Creality distributor then offers a glowing "review" of their printer which is a lower effort version of the actual innovator Bambulab.
It says nothing of the ads in their app, their abuse of the klipper GPL license and purposeful attempts to hide it, their lack of anywhere near the software refinement in printer firmware, slicer software or app and the design flaws that have things like the lid popping off during printing.
Creality has such a bad reputation for openly paying off reviewers (Tom S has directly talked about his experience and he is trust worthy), not crediting modelers they upload the content of, and being lazy in engineering it's agitating that with reviews like this that forget all their problems, they continue to be successful while being awful in many ways.
At bare minimum though, I think this video deserves some sort of disclaimer with a sponsorship so closely linked with the company whose product is being "reviewed". That's just flying too close to the Sun for my taste.
Nice elephant foot at 5:51 there. You sure that is the best quality this new printer can do?
Never said it was best. It was a 7 min CHEPCUBE.
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@@NicodemusT I'm sure there is a cure for you there skippy... Keep trying!
@@FilamentFriday You sure about that? Go back and re watch it again. You said it was "the same qualtiy as my Ender 3 profiles"... Are your Ender 3 quality prints that bad too???
@@hjvanderlinden no! You chill out! LMAO! 🤣
I like the unit a lot. But everyone is talking about how fast it is but from the pictures I'm seeing it still about the same as another printer. If you slow it down some is it any better quality.
the point is to go fast with the SAME quality.
what I'm are missing is a "silent mode" on these speed machines.
Good grief. I wish a reality would be kind enough to send me one of those as well. 🙂
Got a k1 max review?
All it need is just become open source and its good.
But I do hate Creality pulling its BS again in terms of taking free open source (klipper this time) and close it with their software. Wish they could stop doing that.
Fantastic, Chuck! Thanks a bunch for the review! 😃
I was seriously considering the X1... But this is sounding much better!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Does this have an ams system upgrade like the p1s? That’s a huge deal and I’m not sure I can part with it
Not that I know of.