Using Bambu Studio Slicer on the Creality K1
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Chuck shows you how to improve the print quality on your Creality K1 by using the Bambu Lab Studio Slicer (which is based on open source Prusa Slicer). He had to manipulate. a few things to make it work but he shows you those steps and the results on this week's Filament Friday.
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And this is why I switched to PrusaSlicer for my Creality printers! Good video.
Thanks, great test.
It's great that you not only refer to the hardware, you recognize the problems and solve them to get a real result to compare the printers.
Would love to see this done with Cura. Thanks, Chuck!
Creality slicer is cura!
@@kimzor1989 that's like saying a Ford Taurus and a Mustang are the same thing. Sorry, but it seems that you're wrong.
I emailed Ultimaker and they said they have no plans on releasing a K1 profile. Sucks because I've been using Cura for a few years on my Ender3. It's the only thing holding me back from buying the K1.
@@Donorcyclist
@@alpha2turbo wow, imagine not buying a printer because you’re stuck with a Cura.
🤦♂️
Enjoying your journey with both of these printers. Can't wait to see what else you uncover / demystify.
Fascinating results indeed! Thanks a bunch, for testing it! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
As far as I am aware Cura and its clones don't have the option to slow down the print speed for overhangs. This option is a must for high-speed printers. When we were printing at 30mm/s outer overhanging walls it wasn't an issue but now good luck doing that at 100-200mm/s speeds. It just doesn't work. Anyone who still doesn't use Orca Slicer (or Prusa/Bambu Slicer) you are just leaving so much print quality on the table, which is also FREE.
Cura does has the option to print 'bridges' as it calls it in the air, slowing the speed as well as reducing the flow so please stop lying.
@@Ebani You clearly don't understand what I am talking about. I checked and Cura has "Overhanging Wall Speed" and "Overhanging Wall Angle" but the implementation of those is horrible. So if you want to use an inferior slicer and get lower-quality prints with high-speed printers, be my guest I don't mind. I used and loved Cura, but it get to a point where other slicers are just way better. But you do you.
@@PrintingPerspective I literally told you Cura calls them bridges (just checked the option, it's called 'Bridge Settings', right below the ones you named), guess your reading comprehension is horrible no wonder you think the slicer is the problem, i've never had a problem pringting so it seems more of a 'you' problem 🤷♂
@@Ebani Do you understand that bridge = 100% overhang? And there is a range of overhangs from 1% to 100%. So Orca Slicer has dynamic overhang speed depending on the overhanging percentage. Bridge settings have absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying because in the video spots that had poor quality was ~50% overhangs. I sometimes question myself why I bother explaining to people when they already "know" everything. :) Ehhh...
@@PrintingPerspective I have never used Orca Slicer so why would i know how it works? Instead of coming off like the asshole you clearly are actually explaining the differences would add to your point, sadly you prefer to substract from it. 🤷♂
I think the way you went about adjusting the slicer was very intelligent
Thank goodness they built-in K1 in OrcaSlicer now, I'm running my first print on my K1, fingers crossed
It would be interesting to see how Cura’s gcode would work on the K1? And I don’t think there’s ever been an argument as to how much difference the slicer makes. There was a very good reason that simplify3D was so highly regarded for so many years. I, like many others, just wasn’t prepared to spend $200 on slicer software.
The way I see Bambu is much like I see Apple. A closed ecosystem ensures that the company has absolute control over what goes into its machine and ensures it performs well. Whereas open source, windows or Linux in this analogy, can be far worse or far better depending on the amount of effort the customer is willing to put into it. We are starting to hit a more consumer based sales model with 3D printers now which is great for all of us.
Thanks for the video, it shows signs of hope for the k1 max.
If creality would have released this printer as open source in the first place we probably would not even have this conversation.
Thank you for all of your hard work in breaking down problems with printers and how to fix them.
The K1 has already been unlocked to provide full access to Klipper now all we need is the community to put together well tuned profiles for decent slicers and the K1 will be just as good print quality as X1.
Great video chuck, try orca slicer, bet it will have a k1 profile
Thank you for suggesting the switch to Orca slicer. I used Creality's slicer for two prints and ditched it.
That is bad. Try it again.
I just unboxed my K1 Max this weekend. I have some issues printing with Amazon Basics PLA and Overature PETG filaments. I am printing Temp Towers to dial in filament settings. I decided to become a Patreon member tonight because I find your videos so helpful. I also hope if you find any Creality Printer Slicer issues (Orca replacement) or K1 filament profiles I will benefit from your expertise. Keep up the good work.
what issues are you having my k1 max is excellent in printing mostly beating out the x1c from bambu i have....but this guy is right the slicer is hard to use settings are coveluded, bambu slicer on k1 max is what im going to try now....not sure if i can do it becasue this is for k1 regular but we will see
have to remember the k1 has no ai power like x1c and the new k1 max blows the k1 out of the water :)
Let us know your results.
@@FilamentFriday can't use bamboo directly but I have installed orca which is the same , it cuts print time way down, better all around and settings are more abundant than both bambu and x1c and allows you to print over lan with k1 max. So it's good win. Also if you have one I suggest you download the preroot update that allows you to use fluid like the Ender's, it's simple and then can find tune pressure advance, add in x input shaper (k1 max is only using y input shaper from factory) much more. If you want I can show you where to get the info
Where are the Orca k1 profiles?
Good to know. Thanks for sharing.
Maybe it would be interesting to put the settings side by side and compare them.
Hopefully you’ll be releasing some profiles for other slicers as I don’t want to keep using Creality’s! 😅
nail on the head as usual. The lack of time that goes into the first party creality slicer vs the opensource options is just ridiculous.
If you have 7-Zip installed, you can right-click the .3mf file and choose "open archive" (can be done with EXE, MSI, etc. with mixed results). From there, you can navigate the file just like a normal archive file (ZIP), but you don't have to change anything about the original file! Thanks for the video!
7-Zip is THE file extractor
One of the clues I found on the Bambu printer, when using PETG (all I print) the printer sets the temp to 255 for PETG. This, I think, is the magic temp to get it to print so fast and clean. I increased the nozzle size on the K1 Max to 0.6 MM and am working on "tweaking the Creality Print" for that nozzle.
Always great content Chuck. Thank you.
Would like to see Orca slicer as well.
Interestig, but what did the slicers do differently? Were those overhangs in the handle just supported (better)? Speeds? Slicing resolution? Wall overlap? Wall ordering?
Do some videos on using Orca. I want to move away from Cura. Can you do your Fast Cura 0.28 profile for Prusa Slicer? Thanks.
Not only a fast profile. I would also use a "normal" and a "slow and quiet" profile as well, if the K1 does support that.
My overhangs and support are awful as well with creality slicer, which is how I got here. Trying this now. - Printed a calibration cube and one part so far, definitely better with orca slicer and the x1 + E3V2 mashup. Edit: Well, I'm now getting crazy under extrusion which is annoying, since it was fine before.
Great info, I agree, Creality fix or dump your slicer.
Interesting to see that much of a difference in the slicer. We all know that Cura can have issues So interesting to see that creality slicer also has similar issues. I still use Cura for my enders, but I'm really digging using Bambu Studio on my P1P.
you can also use the Prusa slicer for the K1 then you don't have to change the file.
What about giving a try to OrcaSlicer and get a perfect profile for K1 on it? :) I would be glad for that work and a video of it! Loving my K1 but I really hate their slicer
Latest OrcaSlicer Beta comes with K1 and K1 Max profiles.. just saying if anyone else is interested :)
This should get more attention and investigation. I use Cura, and sometimes I get weird issues with extrusion like the one in the video where there really shouldn't be. I hope they can fix that in a future version.
I like to stick to Cura, so I am hoping to see more about how that might work out.
What a boutique the color . Creality does not a AMS unit yet?. Heard anything?
I've got an Ender 6, started off with Simplify3D and got jank prints...moved to the free SuperSlicer and got a heck of a lot better prints with noticeable results!!!
I upgraded my Ender 6 with the Biqu H2V2 extruder. Can't recomend it enough! (I use Cura and Prusa btw)
It would be nice to compare the two gcode files by using any online tool to see which difference between them. IMO, it's more about the settings then anything else. Great content, thanks for sharing.
It’s not as easy as it sounds. It’s not line for line. If you want to try, both slicers can be downloaded for free.
@@FilamentFriday Thanks for letting me know
Orcaslicer has a k1 profile...
I have installed the latest Orca V1.6.3 version and see no reference to the K1 printer. How did you get this sourced and loaded? TIA!!!!!
Agree. I don’t see it either.
Not OrcaSlicer, but GalaxySlicer
Yeah Galaxy slicer has it, and galaxy slicer is basically orca slicer
I have tried Galaxy slicer and am getting good looking prints with my K1. However I cannot get faster prints. My model takes 14m at the default Galaxy Speed rate (300) and when I manually increase these rates to the levels that K1 is capable of (600) it still only prints in 14m. How do we get these great prints and also get the fast speeds like we can get in Creality slicer?@@Dirt33breaks @FilamentFriday
Just use orca slicer for k1 and save yourself half the cost of bambu closed source machine
Are there profiles for K1?
I installed orca slicer but don’t see K1.
@@FilamentFridaymy understanding is that there is a fork of Orca Slicer that has settings for K1
@@abotolo
Please share a link🙂
@@FilamentFriday There are people already uploading K1 profiles for Orca but I don't know how good they are yet. That said there seem to be quite a few people working on it so won't be long before very good profiles become available.
Definitely love the content. Keep it up.
Great video I was thinking about that the other day only thing I couldn't get it right.,..do you mind sharing your profile?
Interesting.
I'm still using Cura myself. I don't feel the need to change, it does what I need, but I'm hoping the arc overhangs plugin will eventually be on it.
Do you use it with the K1?! Because that was the issue here.
Great info CHEP, thank you.
Wow! Amazing results. Can you do a similar test using the Bambu sliver vs. Cura Slicer and show the results?
I was wondering the same thing.
I could if Cura had a high speed profile for K1 but it doesn’t.
@@FilamentFriday Why...does that not surprise me in the least LOL. "We support your printer....but not everything"!
It would be great the other way around, using the creality slicer and print with the Bamboo.
I'm using Orca slicer with my K1C, and I agree, what a difference a slicer can make. I will NOT use CrealityPrint.
Or you can use the latest version of Orca Slicer which has a Profile for the Creality K1 included.
As far as i know Bambu Studio and Orca are more or less the same slicers.
It prints a lot slower than Creality Print.
That depends how you set up the slicer and speed.
I have no issues at all and the speed of the print is finally the same. @@FilamentFriday
@@tuxflyer What adjustments did you make in Orca to get the Creality Print speeds running? How did you compare to ensure the speed and quality is unmatched?
@@musikmaker19 I opened both applications and compared the values (as long as possible)
I am doing individual settings of quality and speed depending on my every day needs.
Sometimes quality is more important than speed, so i slow down the printer. Depends also on the used material.
I am considering the K1 Max; and wonder if I can use the CURA Slicer that I have been using for years on my Ender 5 ??
Yes you can. Creality Print is just a "slimmed down" version of Cura with a few custom addons. You can use whatever slicer you wish
Chuck, do you have the profile you created for bambu slicer for the K1? id like to try it with my K1 Max if thats ok with you? i realy dont like their Creality Print slicer - the prints come out worse than those on a standard ender 3 pro, i think they should release what software theyre using, but currently i dont believe they have done that - its really letting them down, the prints seem ok when printed from the inbuilt folder, but from the slicer, it really is horrendous.. contemplating sending the printer back if i cannot get it to function better than my ender 3 pro - theres no way ill take speed over quality.
many thanks
Just got my K1 last night, so I'm paying special attention to this stuff. Have you tried creating a Cura profile for the K1, and if so, how's it working out? I'm still trying to get used to the Creality Print user interface, but I've VERY comfortable with Cura. Until this point I've been using an Ender 3 Pro and an Ender 5 Pro, so this is a pretty substantial change. Thanks for all your helpful content.
Your videos are amazing. Does that mean that ultimaker cura is dead for the ender 3v2?
I've been using PrusaSlicer for my Ender 3, works great. Haven't gotten OrcaSlicer to work in Manjaro Linux yet. I do wonder *why* the slicers emit different gcode. There has to be a reason for the difference. I'd pull the gcode into Prusa GCode viewer and do a bit of detective work, maybe even look at the file in a text editor.
Thanks. Keep us updated with improvements to the slicer please. Also can you use a standard third party slicer on these machines ?
Yes, but you won’t see high speed.
@@FilamentFriday why not?
Just use Orca as your default slicer, it is a no brainer
I will as soon as they release K1 profiles in their release.
do you want the profiles? i have them@@FilamentFriday
its for the max but easily edited by you to chnage the bed size etc
That's super interesting. Theoretically this method should be able to be applied to different nozzle diameters and different filaments as well right?
I would think so.
Thanks Chuck! Have you considered mapping your Extra Fast Profiles to Orca Slicer? I have tried using your parameters manually, but there are a lot I don't know what the correct parameters would be.
Yeah, but Orca is going things I don’t totally understand completely.
When will you do a profile in Cura for the K1?
I'm waiting for that too! Have some serious cura skills the last couple of years so I don't wanna switch over to prusa or orca.
Great video! I've followed your instructions for the K1, but can't see any way to change the nozzle size to 0.60. Also it only list 3 basic filaments for the K1 although all the rest were installed.
I have not checked, I assume that the fork of Bambu Slicer - "Orca Slicer" would not have the K1 Profile in it yet?
great work, i share the same opinion, thanks for share
Not sure if you were using creality slicer or creality print to slice the files. I'm having awesome results in general with Creality Print
He used Creality Print, which is what is recommended from Creality. Plus Creality Print is the slicer that Creality designed the K1 profiles for. Still, Creality Print is just a slimmed down version of Cura, just like Creality Slicer
Great video, could you perhaps point to where Creality said they will be opening up the firmware in September?
They posted on their UA-cam channel and also on Twitter. twitter.com/creality3dp/status/1682342838586204166?s=46&t=sPdFraw1oYinFzw3Ws8lXw
I am trying to get around the auto bed leveling so I can print lettering on top of a print. I do this all the time on my other printers using simplify3d. I just print 2 files using different processes then print the first one then change filament and print the next one. I can't find a place to even pause the print in creality print!
Thank you!
Wait... You changed the gcode file to zip to metaphorically peek under the slicer's skirt? Why have I never thought about doing something like that?!
Because you weren't that clever?! Who knows ;o)
The Bambu printer has input shaping (so will be baked into it's slicer) and the Creality either does not or not one as good. This may be part of why the gcode for the same part on the two slicers yielded different results. Maybe...food for thought anyway.
Do your Cura profiles work for the K1? I see you have download links in the description...
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@@FilamentFriday Thank you for the quick response. I see you only have the PLA profile, do you have for other filaments like TPU, PETG?
@@InfinityDrones - Not at this time.
For some reason when I try this, the first layer doesn't go down right. It's too smoosh and damages my build plate
I just did something similar I added a ender3max to cura and modified it’s size and start stop Gcode. Then I made a pla profile and now I’m using cura to print on the K1max. It will say it’s not Ai compatible but it still prints
Are you able to print faster with that Cura profile?
@@FilamentFriday printing close to as fast as the creality print it still needs some tweaks I’m not an expert like you and your crew but it does work. I also noticed my head temp was 240 when I set it at 220 so seems like there is an issue there as well
Are you willing to share your profile?
I’d like to check it out.
Send to email: chelleb1 at yahoo if you are willing.
@@FilamentFriday sorry I just saw your message
I sent an email with a link to drop box I put it there to share it with people who ask
what if u compared it the same prints with Cura and Prusa slicers
Chep.. youve used both, which would you recommend? i want to be able to change nozzle types without too much of an overhead, id be happy to use aftermarket/third party parts too - just cant decide between the x1 carbon, the p1p or the k1 max - any chance you could shed some light on the differences and affordability of upgrading/replacing nozzles/parts etc? thanks a bunch
I don’t have a K1 Max or P1P. The X1C is far more expensive but does print quite good. I’d say Bambu has done a better job releasing a new machine. I just don’t prefer closed source. Here’s a good video on replacing the X1 nozzle.
ua-cam.com/video/6RG38PSlzKM/v-deo.html
@@FilamentFriday thanks Chep, one of the biggest reasons I have for not going with Bambulabs is all the proprietary hardware and software. The ability to obtain replacement nozzles etc and tinkering with software if I need to is a big thing for me which is why the k1 max is a concept I can't ignore.. thanks for your reply chep, thanks for the content also.. appreciated very much
@@vagautohaus4492 the k1 max is amazing
Ny Bambu P1S with AMS arrives tomorrow. I've been playing with Bambu Studio and I really like it. The software gave me a popup tip about silk filament requiring different speed and temp than regular PLA. I'm confused, when I pull up a profile for Bambu Silk PLA, no settings change.
Honestly, it's not surprising. Creality has always used an outdated version of Cura that has been as far as almost 2 years behind regular Cura at times. Combine that with PrusaSlicer and its forks being the ones making the most significant progress since Bambu hit the scene, anything Cura based feels like it's losing ground very quickly.
Well, anything based on an *old* Cura maybe... It's not like Cura doesn't make any advancements when compared to Prusorcambooslic3r, quite the contrary, they're adding cool improvements all the time, too, some of which are even picked up by the other team because they're great (e.g. ironing, tree supports etc)
isn't it just the settings in the slicer and not so much the slicer?
slicer change many thing trust me not all slicer slice the same way
the point here is: the manufacturer delivering "good enough" settings right out of the box.
Creality is not and never has been. Which is quite a shame! Imagine them tuning one profile with each printer they were announcing, starting with CR-10 or Ender 2 in 2016/ 2027.
Any slicer can do a good job on a simple part like that. You just need to learn how to set it up.🤘😁
Amen
Thanks for the hint of grabbing the start and end code from the Ender 3 V2 profile, this finally enabled me to make my own K1 profile in Prusaslicer! And by god, prints come out SO MUCH better now than when sliced with Creality Print (which, as I understand, is based on an old Cura)!... Does anyone know if and how the side fan is controlled? P.S: Careful if you have old Linear Advance 1.0 M900 commands in your filament profile, i.e. the ones in the 3-digit range! The K1 (max) chokes on those with an "internal error"!
Do you share the profile anywhere?
It is based on Cura, I don’t know if it’s based on an “old” Cura though. 🤷🏻♂️
@@FilamentFriday When it's done, yes! ;-) Right now it seems to work beautifully, but for some reason the slicer print time estimate is way off (e.g. 8h for a print that takes 9.5 in reality), anyone got any idea why?
Do you have by any chance the K1 MAX profile for bambulab studio?
Get Orca slicer, they are in there
I am waiting for someone to get a profile for pursa slicer when I tried to create on it failed
Why will it take till September to open-source it?
Maybe they want to stream-line, optimize, or even bug-fix their code before it's viewable
Could you make profiles for K1 Max on Orca Slicer for .4 .6 .8 1.0 nozzles?
Get Orca slicer, they are all in there
I regret buying creality k1c and v3 and should have just got a bamboo, best thing I can do is use bamboo slicer on those
Use OrcaSlicer. It’s better for the K1.
@@FilamentFriday I would if I didnt keep getting WiFi connection errors
@@scannaunderscore1 - Ok, I just use USB drive to load files. I tend to watch first later go down anyway.
Soooo i have tried printing this vice but keep getting the same bad results of the screws snapping in half. Would you say that it is a infill problem or that it needs to be oriented differently? How did you do yours (not the handle, the lead screw for the base)? I tried printing hot and slow. I tried different filaments. But every time they snap into peices. I also dried the hell out of the filaments before hand thinking that was the problem. Please help!😢
I printed at 30% infill I believe.
@FilamentFriday thanks. I have tried numerous percents of infill but nothing has worked. Maybe it is the style of infill that does the job? I always use grid but not sure if another way is better. Infill before walls maybe?
Up the temp 5°
@FilamentFriday ok thanks
this can also happen when you have a layer height too high. higher detail like .1 = smooth and proper clearences
Maybe it will be easier with orca slicer
Hi Chep, I'm potentially picking up a K1 to use as my main work horse while I upgrade my Trident and Switchwire. Have you tried Prusa slicer with it? Do you think it would correct the issue in the same way? I use SuperSlicer mainly but I'm hearing good things about the latest version of Prusa Slicer and was thinking of using it on the K1 max.
Don't. Get anything but a Creality printer. They're not built to last.
But what setting(s) caused this?
Less a single setting and more like different code that generates the gcode
Anyone have a profile for cura? the creality print takes forever to slice and crashes on me.
Grab Orca Slicer, it has a K1 profile now that works great.
Good Video, Except the X1 Carbon is $1000 Dollar More Expensive than the K1 so No Comparison
The point of the video was that regardless of the printer you can get better prints by having properly tuned input files. I think the K1 will have a journey, once the software is open sourced, ending with very high quality high speed prints just like the X1. The community will essentially do the profiling work that Bambu already did for their printer.
@Broskisnowski X1, P1P and P1S also do not come with AMS. And since AMS is so expensive it`S like buying another printer (like the Sovol SV07) just to have the option to print multiple colors.
AMS is producing a lot of garbage "poop" and when printing with two colors materials the Sovol SV04 IDEX does a way better job (because of less waste).
But I have the impression that neither Creality or Sovol is not going to recognize the impact the AMS has. And maybe developing a better, cheaper solution. The Chameloen 3D in a solid case could be one ....
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 The price of the AMS is minimal when you figure in the time and aggravation of having to manually switch filaments, especially when running a business. Plus you can flush the waste into the infill or another print on the plate where colors dont matter. Dont get me wrong, Im a huge Creality fan and Id buy a Multi Material option from them in a heartbeat. But right now BL has the market on lock with the AMS as its the best option for the least amount of money. Hopefully Creality will release their own version soon.
It's Friday, July 20. Creality Print is crashing with a critical error. No one's going to be able to use Creality Print on their K-1 OR their K-Max until Creality fixes their error.
Try Lychee Slicer, it supports the K1 and works fantastic.
Isn’t it just for SLA?
nope, it has k1 max support, however no it doesn't, what happened when i tried to import my g code, into my k1 max, the mother board started beeping, danger, lucky i stopped the process immediately, could have been a fire hazard the build plate was burning.. anyway the only slicing program for the k1 max as far as im concerned is the creality print is the safest slicer. I also wouldn't be using Lychee ever again, i deleted it and its also a mungral of a thing.. it very annoying with advertising and waiting time.
@@OG96932 you must have made a mistake, I have 2 Creality K1 working perfectly with the Lychee Slicer
I respect your patience and perseverance, but.........
But one shouldn't even have to think about doing this.
Having to spend all this time monkeying around with a myriad of settings just to get a decent print is nuts and major waste of time and $$$$$$$$$$$$.
Saving profiles helps a lot. But different filaments have different properties, and different projects have different needs. Can't be avoided.
@logicalfundy and one spool from another and even color makes a difference ...
Way too many variables, inconsistencies.
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Jetzt das gleiche bitte nochmal für den k1 Max bitte 😊
Lets watch this video and stop counting attendance.
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Could anyone recommend a cheap $400 machine that's way quicker then ender 3v2 for my son Christmas present?
I would keep an eye on the Ender 3 V2 Neo, I got one refurbished from Comgrow for under $200 and it works great.
@RoXolid but it's not fast
@@graphguy If you use Chuck's .28 cura profiles it'll be pretty speedy for the money. Again, you're looking at a very budget price so what's the fastest you can get for your budget? That would be the way I would go in your price range
@@RoXolidit’s fast with a sonic pad, and it runs clipper with it, better firmware better quality print’s personally I’d go with the creality S1 Pro and a sonic pad if you can find a good deal somewhere, I got both s1 pro and sonic pad used for £200
Get an Ender 3 V2/V2 Neo. Add sonic pad, silicone bed "springs," and either a dual gear extruder with Capricorn tube or a direct drive extruder. Then you'll have 200mms+ speed with input shaping and pressure advance for hardly any money
Edit: add a Spider hotend and you'll go even faster
Just like last week's video... Where the elephant foot was horrendous with this new printer. LOL
Bambu is a better machines in MANY ways... but to your point about the slicer, this is why I trashed Creality Slicer and started using Orca Slicer and get a much better print.
Kind of lame to make a video declaring Bambu/PrusaSlicer to be better than Creality/Cura based on one print without looking into what the actual differences in the gcode is. They may make different slicing decisions for different reasons, such as wall ordering and tradeoffs between surface quality vs dimensional accuracy.
Someone who is a beginner will watch this and think Bambu Studio is “better” without understanding anything.
as an owner of both, x1c is definitely the better machine
I would hope so at twice the price.
Why would you buy both? 😂
I have an X1C and I only bought the k1 max because it’s bigger.
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Hint, I don’t believe that you have both.
Twice the price? Try about x3ol
creality print slicer is garbage. Orca is so much better
I completely agree.
Bambu is made way better. i have come to the conclusion. It puts out better prints.
I've had a bambu for over a year. It won't print anything. Bambu admitted there was an issue and sent me a new bed after a year of asking for help. It didn't fix anything. BambuLab takes months to respond to tickets or any response. So you ask for help, wait 2 months, they response. The responses are a joke, and they will gaslight you. You then have to respond to them and wait another 2 months. It is horrible. Pray you never have an issue with their printer, because they wont help.
Yes they are a complete jike when it comes to help. They gaslight you so bad its annoying. @@goawaybaizuo
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Has Bambu asked for their unit back yet? If I was a hardware engineer on the Bambu project I'd be feeling a bit hostile after watching this.
Nope.
Why would they be hostile lol, they have an Ender 3 preset in Bambu studio
@@RenegadeFury Because the video intimates that the difference between the Bambu unit and Creality unit is only software. That suggests that all of the hardware work is overpriced and over engineered since it's the software that really makes the difference.
Why would anyone buy Bambu hardware now when they can save money buying cheaper hardware?
@@riseandshinejpAs well as their "quality control"
@@Jessterrr If the K1 is a similar quality than the Ender series, the K1 will be down for maintenance a lot more than the X1. Tech support might also be different. Personally, I've got a Prusa on order because they support open source, should have good tech support, and should have good build quality.
This was definitely a Creality ad. This channel is just way too biased to listen to any advice from it.
Fair point. I believe he was trying to highlight that the machine is not the main priority, but the slicer. Which is not a creality ad. He even suggested that Creality step away from their slicer and use the open source prusa or Orca.
Grow up
@@carpaithian He is saying that the K1 is as good as a X1C, which it's not.
@@carpaithian no he was basically arguing that the K1 is just as good because people should buy it since he's basically bought by Creality. The slicer part is just him trying to turn people who are interested in Bambu printers to Creality customers.
This is very clear shilling because his interest is always aligned with Creality's. He even made a video sponsored by Creality talking about how Creality printers are a better deal, while comparing them to other brands. All of that in the name of "open-source" which Creality isn't even that open about. They're just as closed up and steal from Prusa and E3D as any other Chinese company.
@@graphguy blind people entered the chat
You act like trying a different slicer was some genius idea that nobody had ever thought of until now. Have you seriously never teied PussaSlicer on your enders before? I have always found PrusaSlicer and its derivatives give superior results on Creality machines compared with Creality Slicer/Cura.
Awesome info, sir. Thanks!
The newest version of Bambu slicer has the k1 and the k1 max, but not the k1c.
Since the k1 has identical build volume as to the k1c, couldn't I just choose the k1 and run the prints on my K1C?
Yes I have k1 and k1c and they are identical so it will work.
I think everyone is making poor attempts to diminish the quality of Bambu's influence and products just because it's not open source. The prints are NOT identical, so just stop. Seriously, stop. Your video clearly shows the differences. The hardware on the Bambu is just superior and is fully utilized with the Bambu slicer. The K1 is a vast upgrade to the never ending line Ender series, but it's not close with the quality of the Bambu printers. Hence, the quick recall of the crappy extruder they initially released with it. Lastly, what a joke to suggest that these printers are nearly identical in quality using the same slicer. You printed a single model. A single model! Real scientific by using a single model with only one type of filament. Perhaps a variety of models and variety of filaments would be helpful to make such a bold claim. It was clear that you really clear you had zero interest in testing your hypothesis. You had a conclusion drawn well before you even began your farce of a test. It's BS like this that seriously stagnated true progress in 3D printers for five years because everyone was too busy justifying the mods they had were using to get their crappy creality printers just to do print a basic item. This video rates with the LTT "testing" videos -lacking true testing parameters and is highly disingenuous to consumers.
Uh No? Go watch Frankly built he compares ALL the 4 Printers and he was an early Super fan of the bambu printers, He Now changed his mind and likes the K1 Max best over Bambu and he used to say bambu was his favorite. ( Creality QA is a little suspect ( bambu is better but they spent a few years perfecting their deign with Kickstarter , as they releases some wonky stuff sometimes but they always work it out as they have with the K1 series over the last few months.)
Haahaahahaa
Oh man, you really want to justify that cost you spent on the Bambu! "Just stop" LOL. Look at that diatribe, sheesh.
(pets head gently and whispers)...it'll be okay, just keep printing.
Wow, you are really that emotionally attached to 3D printer manufactures aren't you? With everything going on in this world and THIS is what choose to base your existence around? If you need to spend your time defending 3D printer manufactures, then it's YOU that is the sheep. Final point, I own a PRUSA's printers, so what is your point again? - @@musikmaker19
If it’s such a problem then feel free to upload proper testing videos instead of complaining to a brick wall.