I ordered K1C and received week ago 2024-03-01 and it does not have dampeners in the door hinges. I was expecting that from early model reviews, but unfortunately my doors are flapping loose.
Can you do a Thorough review of the Flashforge Adventurer 5M? That machine right now is flying off shelves at the $299 and its a Core XY. I have seen mixed results about build quality and I really would like to know the bottom line on it
Bambu had issues with A1 and recalled/fixed and moved forward. Qidi (my pick) had issues with 3dplus and max and recalled and fixed and moved forward. I hope this trend of customer care continues with Creality also.
Correct me if I'm wrong - Qidi provided their 1st gen plus3 customers with options to fully replace the printer - Creality just introduced a new model w/ the original still being offered. Did 1st gen K1 customers get the same Qidi customer support?
I bought my K1 3 or 4 months ago and it has the newer extruder so no problems only added the camera and rooted it. I really like it so far. I don't know if all buyers that where in the early models where able to get an updated extruder.@@farad37
I've had open source printers and spent 80% of my time tweaking/fixing. It was miserable. I tried Bambu Labs and it just works. It's been the most fun I could have had 3d printing. I don't care a bit if it's open source or not, I care it if will print consistently. 2 weeks after getting the Bambu Labs printer I hauled my Creality out the the trash. Best use for it.
Yup. Brand new to printing. Buddy tried to get me into a K1. I said nope, I don't want to tune/tinker, I want to print. He's still working through issues with his K1. I'm printing. Could care less if it's open source. It effin works and does what I need it to as a novice consumer. I'm blown away at the quality with .08 layers with pla. I'm a bambu sucker, I buy only thier filament, they did the tinkering and tuning. It works.
Ah bro that's so badass. You went to directly talk to the software team in China and it seems you directly were able to bring change to this product for the better in giving users access to full blown klipper. Cool af. Thanks for the hard work!
One of the key takeaways here is that "China" isn't just some gray mass that pumps out faceless products (like many of us living in West instictively might think), but there are actual human beings developing the products. 😅
I totally agree with this standpoint. And I honestly wonder why this wasn’t as much of a priority in the past few years. That should be the most simple requirement, “actually works consistently”
@@pyrokinetic_666 Creality is never pro or reactive lol. They just copy IP and do the whole middle school thing of like "yours prints 500mm? Well ours is SIX hundred. *Sticks out tongue.* Without actually innovating, all at. 😂
Agreed. It's not the K1 we wanted but its the K1 we deserved (in the first place). I got 2 versions of the K1. 1st Version (do not own): Launch Version; The BAD K1 that everyone hears about. Bad aluminum internals extruder, bad hotend, bad alignment and leveling, easily hit by the cable chain WEAK filament engagement switch, 2nd Version (Purchased Aug 2023) had a STEEL (POLISHED SWITCH) Extruder and stronger filament gear switch . It had BLACK silcone covered hotend that had bad thermistor connection that would fail and throw a Error 004 (went throw 3 of them in 2 months before they sent CURRENT Hotend available for K1 and K1 Max. 3rd Version (Purchased Nov 2023) had New Redesigned extruder with better filament path through the extruder (UNPOLISHED SWITCH and NON Unicorn Nozzle) and tighter switch (Now used in the V3 Core XZ). It also now comes with the redesigned RED Silcone covered Hotend with better thermistor connection (These are current Replacements being sold everywhere for K1 and K1 Max). 4th Version (do not own (yet)) SEEMS to be the K1C. I am not seeing any of the K1C upgrades on the newest one I have (3rd Gen).
This is a very important video for every potential K1 buyer. Because of all those issues and the price I got the Flashforge Adventurer 5M instead which also was cheaper. Don´t forget the K1C has still a smaller print surface. 220x220 vs 256x256
Got my K1 mid Jan, no problems extruding, running a lot of ABS, a few mods, top riser, filament runout relocation, and i feed out of a drybox beside the printer. Door is still loose!!! But i haven’t had a problems with that. Swapped the nozzle for a hardened unit and am printing ABS CF with no problems. Oh and i am using double sided pei build plate..
I've had my K1 Max now for about a month, and it has been amazing! I rooted it within the first week, and it is so versatile. Love the AI detection, as it has saved me wasted filament on a couple of prints due to adhesion issues due to wrong settings. Having it be open source, and not a closed system, was a big selling point for me over getting an X1C, as well as the larger build volume. I've done a lot of upgrades to it, and have made it my own, with the smaller pulleys sitting on my desk for my next mod. It came with the updated extruder, and hardened steel nozzle, which I quickly swapped out for a .6mm nozzle. I've printed PA-6 Carbon no problems, as well ABS and ASA with relatively little issues. Can't wait to get another! lol
I hear you, and it's good to have choices, but saying that it's wonderful - after upgrading this, that, and the other - is exactly why people go with the X1. They want to make 3D-printed parts, not have a 3D printer project.
I have been a Creatily customer for 5 years and while it is nice to be able to customize everything, sometimes a simple solution is the best. I recently bought a bambu x1 carbon and have to say, it feels like a different thing. I have had so many creatily printers and bambu really did something special. It feels like Microsoft vs Apple again. Windows tries really hard but fails and stumbles so many times to get there, while Apple just puts stuff out there that works.
I built my own 3D printer from scratch. I learned a lot, and once it was working pretty well, I turned to using it as an actual tool - you know, actually making stuff instead of messing with it. After dealing with failures on parts I actually wanted to, you know, Use, I had enough and bought a Bambu X1. No regrets.
Creality... Not once again... My 1st 3d printer, ender 3 v2, came warped... fixed it Needed a 2nd printer.... Buy a 2nd ender 3 v2 ... Modified both But always Warped frame Warped Bed Random clogs and string Even bought a creality spider v3 and make it DD , and it really make it better... Tried to print a the100 printer, frame came warped because of ender 3 tolerances... Bought a bambu P1s... Oh man, i really never want to see creality ever again... Nice review btw! Hugs from portugal!
The K1 Max doesn't use its lidar for bed leveling, it uses it for pressure advance and flow calibration... relatively poorly I might add. I believe the biggest issue with the k1 series on first layer issues is doing a bed mesh too early while the bed is still heating up and warping as a result. The thin aluminum plate on the k1 and k1max tends to change quite a bit as it heats up, and even at temp needs a few minutes to finish soaking.
I've have a K1C and a P1S in a small print farm printing ABS all day everyday and after using the P1S for 8 months it has failed with no real support from Bambulabs. People have a go at Creality but their support is far better than Bambulabs and after 1 year of continous operation the K1C is still printing ABS parts all day every day just as good as the day i got it. I have K1 Max's as well as the original K1 and have had issues with those but the K1C has been great. I would probably recommend the K1C over the P1S purely because of the stainless steel rods over the carbon rods of the P1S, that is the failure point for the P1S, they seize up over time i (wth ABS, ASA) due to heat warp and new cheaper steel bearings. K1C steel rods can be lubricated and that just keeps them going forever.
ive just recently got a p1s from bambu lab with the ams an its completely changed my expectation from my printers, the p1s was the 13th printer to my collection but everything about it was better than my older machines an its made me realize how much 3d printing has advanced in the past 5 yrs, i knew they had gotten faster but the ease of use of the machines has gotten alot better from what im used to using so im looking at selling off some of my older machines an replacing them with some new machines, ive never been someone who picked a brand an stuck with it but i do have 3 creality machines ender 3 3 max and ender 5 an i ended up with 2 flsun qq-s pro but the rest was gotten because of the differences from what i already had but at this point delta and corexy is going to be my picks, an the new creality ender 3 v3 corexy bed slinger is one id like to try an i had considered the k1 but went with bambu lab p1s instead and im so glad i did but at the same time that k1 max is really tempting an does deal with my biggest complaint about the p1s and thats build volume, thats become something i have to have for alot of the stuff i make so at least a 300x300 build plate for a bambu lab printer would def be my next buy if they release something like that b4 i buy another machine. i never was a big prusa guy either but that new prusa xl looks really nice but i dont know if multiple tool heads would be worth the money for me when something like the ams is available, i dont know how well the mmu work from prusa now but i know when it first came out i read alot of ppl having issues, but if they've worked out all of the bugs for it i wouldn't mind trying one of there multicolor setups with a mk4 or xl with a single tool head cause i cant really see any good reason to spend 500 bux for a 2nd tool head but im def going to check out some of these newer printers.
Thanks for the review! Looks like next time I'm considering a new printer, Creality will be on the table again. It does look like they're trying to do things differently than they used to. Although it is annoying that all of the quick swap designs so far have been proprietary, rather than coming together to come up with a standard.
Just bought a K1, it was a learning experience. I had to replace the hot end, the extruder, and the pcmb in order to get it to work properly. I printed the first test print and failed every print after until I replaced essentially the entire print head. For what I paid to fix it I could have bought a K1C and a few spools. The part that really gets me is to hold me over until everything was fixed I bought a Bambu A1 mini with the AMS. That has been an absolute rockstar.
I just ordered my K1C along with the Creality Space Pi Filament Dryer that you have displayed in your video. I signed up for their "Upgrade Event" and received a coupon code for 15% off the $559 K1C price and 15% off the $69 filament dryer price. Paid for it thru PayPal and got an extra 2% off the order for a total of 17% off. Thanks for your review...I look forward to receiving mine too.
Cancel your order, I've owned 4 creality printers sent the K1 back, broken out of the box, bad hotend, the other 3 are in various stages of being broken, my 1 bambu has printed more successfully than all combined, creality is garbage, spend a little more and save yourself the headache of working on a creality printer as a project instead of your prints.
My Creality business model theory: It is cheaper to over charge or build in return shipping/customer service gaslighting into cost to build, and not have to pay a QC department. They use cheap labor for Manufacturing, Sales/Customer gas-lighting and Shipping. Then have the customer do the run-in QC for them, and roll the dice on people missing the return window gaining a higher non-return of bad printers. I got 2 bad "new" k1's out of the box off Amazon and 1 bad refurbished from Creality Official Refurbished (refurb, thinking I was beating the repair times since both my others came non-functional... that idea failed. It came with no screen and they could not get me a screen). I have one half failed benchy to show for 2 months of my time and 3 Creality printers. I guess UA-camrs only get shipped the "working" ones to bait the rest of us.
Great review. Only printer that I’ve had was an Anycubic mega x. It works flawlessly. It’s just slow. I wanted to print carbon fiber so I went with K1C. About 100 hrs so far. Zero problems. Extremely fine detailed flawless 3d prints. I was worried after I decided to buy after reviewing some reviews or Creality. Turns out I made a lucky choice and it’s extremely fast. Would you please do reviews of 3 d scanners? Thanks
I bought the K1 in August of 2023, and the printer was great for about 2 months, then it had ever problem youtubers talk about, I ended getting rid of it because I couldn't get it fixed! SO I am done with Creality they were less than useless to get it fixed. I donated it to the local library they wanted it for parts for their other K1 printers. I now have two Bambu printers that I love the P1S and the A1 mini. I can't believe how much easier and better the bambu printers are. So when you talked about all the issues with original I can give you 3 other issues ;).
This has me interested. I’m comparing between Creality and Bambu for my printer upgrade. Having the software unlocked out the box is a big deal. I unlocked so much performance from my Ender 3 v2 when I converted it to Klipper but lost the use of the local screen.
I was having frustrating problems with my old Sapphire Pro, and decided to just ditch it and spring for a new printer. I didn't do any significant research and initially ordered a Flashforge. But then I watched a review that it was locked down. I came here and watched this and once you said they'd opened the firmware, I ordered a K1C. Fingers crossed.
I have the k1c and it's absolutely a great machine. I printed so much with it,never had 1 issue. It makes super nice work, and I can back that up with the projects I still have at home made by the k1c. It's far more superior then the first k1 series.
Just how close a look did you take at this printer? They withdrew the marketing about all metal extruder some time back, as it isn't. I also thought the pulleys on the K1C are smaller, not larger and that bed cant really be called flat can it? Have you tried it at different temps to see just how much it distorts with temp?
I’m going to get my K1C this Friday and I am looking forward to getting it, but I am also going to get the silicone socks, as well as brass and hardened nozzles next week, as well as a Maintenance kit that I am supposed to get today. One thing that I don’t think is discussed is the fact that there’s no warranty on any printers that are sold on Amazon, when it comes to things that I think you should discuss on your channel.
Great video. You alluded to it a little bit in the video comparing it to the k1 Max. And it also see in the comments you mentioned that the k1 Max had some warp bed issues. I would appreciate if you put together a quick video on the overall comparisons between the K1C and the k1 Max. At this point I'm leaning towards the k1 Max just for the build volume. Thanks!
Chep had warping issues with the K1 Max as well and it seemed to be the smooth bed surface (A Plate) not having a good enough grip for large scale models. Swapping to a textured PEI bed (B Plate) off Amazon seemed to have fixed it if I remember correctly.
Because you cannot guarantee no clogs. There is a chance of a clog happening even if your printer is perfect. The printers performance is somewhat at the mercy of the filament its using. Also, nozzles start to wear and get buildup, so over time the chances of clogging do go up. So them saying that the chances of a clog happening after a longer print time, based on the anti-clogging changes they made, is valid. If I had purchased the original K1 and had these issues, I would not be happy. I don't like my time and money being used for a companies R&D. If I am doing R&D for Creality, then not only should I not have to pay for the printer, Creality should be paying me for my time. Creality seems to actually be making some good decisions now, and I think their newest printers are very good. Its a shame they wasted 5 years or more playing marketing games by releasing redundant products instead of innovating and making their products better. My first printer was the original CR-10, and that was creality actually being the disruptor and making their name based on their product. Maybe they have come full circle to this again.
Hey Jonathan! Seriously great video! I just posted a video today actually where I show a work around on how you can avoid using Creality Print slicer with the v3 and K1C! It works with basically any slicer and you get access to the web UI again! Im not just tryin to advertise myself though.. I noticed Creality also only sent a single sided build plate with the v3 but it didnt even come with a wiper! I think that Is like my main beef with the v3... I hate having to constantly clean that filament wipe spot. Just doesnt make sense to me for them to do the v3 like that the way they did with the wiper. with the v3 they had the perfect bedslinger kinematic for a MMU also. Not sure why they didnta wait on that tbh. I predict that a larger sized ender 3 v3 is going to be coming out soon, the v3 max and then shortly after that the creality MMU will be out. Mark my words
im a newbie 3d printer user and i got the K1C. i personally believe the set up and software was great for my uses ! well see when i need to step things up!
The K1C probes for the brush before it tries to rub anything on it. I haven’t tested it because I still only own the one build plate, but I imagine that if it doesn’t detect a brush it might not try to clean the nozzle on it.
That is right. If the brush is not there, it will not try to clean the tip. I tested this and that is the case. The brush is just stuck on the build plate using some double sided tape. It will work lose after a while. I found a model where you can glue the brush onto, screw into the printer and then use other build plates.
I have a later K1, which I managed to purchase for only £360 pounds, in time limited deals, direct from them! A whole lot less than any bambu XY printer. The new extruder design has been fine, no issues, other than one, when I ran a temperature torture test one time, it jammed and had to clean the nozzle (since replaced to a new one) so even that was not extruder really. The only issue I find, is that the filament is awkward to load in sometimes. Tried all sorts of different cuts, but in the end, as long as I cut/file a point on the end, it normally loads without having to release the bowden tube. Never have any bed sticking issues, though I do use 3d lac, mainly so I don't have to clean the bed each time, I might go 10 prints out more, and just give a light dusting each time. For disclosure, I also have the use of a Bambu X-Carbon, with AMS, which is a great machine. A real work horse, with the AMS, which is brilliant. But.... I just love my K1, it works, I can mess around with it, I've added all the whistles and bells, filters, camera etc, and it does everything I ask of it.
So, as an owner of an early k1, I have updated the extruder, replaced the stock hotend, raised the roof, printed out the 270° hinges. As a person who likes to fiddle with tools, it's been mostly fun.
2 Weeks ago now?..How on Earth did I miss This Video?.. Would Have been very beneficial, regardless..This is another Home Run!…Good Detail, Good Notes, Great insight… Rad🤙🏻
I don't think they have the quality control part dialed in yet (or maybe they never will) as I see half of the reviews of K1C (all very recent) on their website had some significant issues. Good thing that K1C was unobtanium a couple weeks ago when I was considering it, so I went with P1S AMS combo. I have a feeling I would be one of those 'lucky' people who got faulty units if I had ordered the K1C.
I've bought a K1 Max last week, and received it with the smaller pulleys, unicorn nozzle and magnetic door outlines. So far, so good. Oh, and it came with a warped bed too. 🙄
I have had my k1 for about 1 month now, and I'm happy to say that I haven't had any of the problems the first generation of ,1printers had. It works perfectly
I like the Bambu ecosystem…. But my next, bigger printer is likely to be a Creality or Sovol, w open source and tons of updates and more flexibility in nozzles etc. and especially I like that they have their own cloud solution, too.
Own two K1 Nozzles upgraded to unicorn Build plate upgraded to PEI gold Klipper Orca slicer Added cameras Plus few printed mods designed by myself AHH. Both second hand. Both showing signs of users trying to fix clogging issues
I would like to see more information about noise while printing in different speeds and with different materials. With the current developments in the 3D printer space, noise becomes an issue for those of us that can't afford a seperate room for 3D printing or are otherwise sensitive to noise. Thanks!
Creality has definitely been making some good progress with their offerings as of late, now they just need to learn how to phase out older versions of things there are barely different than the newer renditions..
I got spooked with my K1 Max and returned it after it dugged into the bed so hard. I bet they are doing a lot better but it took some time for them to fix the issue with an update.
Hmm... awesome review!! I recently bought myself a Flashforge adventurer 5m pro on Amazon as my experience with creality in the past has left a lot to be desired. I wonder if maybe I should have given this printer a chance. But then again, the Flashforge just works great right out of the box. I like the fact that creality has granted root access, though.. I am still trying to figure out how to install klipper on the flashforge as the klipper Flashforge provides is just a standard klipper file set.
I’m not sure this is the printer for me, but it at least gives me some hope that we’ll see open source models approaching the polished of the Bambu Labs machines in a year or two.
The biggest mistake Creality made was not selling a kit to upgrade K1’s to K1C’s updates. It is what lead me to ditch Creality after buying a K1 and then seeing the K1C with all issues fixed but on preorder for $250+ extra. Bye bye Creality, hello Bambu.
I have been really tempted to get a Bambu P1S, but the closed nature is just hard for me to accept. In addition to my Ender 5+, Ender 3 v2, I'm much more inclined to get another Creality, so long as they keep things open.
The issue that I have with the K1C is something that I have posted a video of it on my UA-cam channel. One issue is the way they have a yellow hot glue on the connector that goes to the thermostat and the thermistor. I will make another video on this issue soon on my channel. The new extruder is another thing that I will discuss on my next video compared to the old one, which as far as I can see is an outdated version and date that came with my original K1C. I have a flow tech nozzle that I am going to install hopefully with the next video. The flow tech nozzle is what can be used to have different types of nozzles from the hardened steel nozzle to the different types of brass nozzles.
Bed over 100C -> No issues. I've been trying to do PC-ABS with my K1 Max ordered ~12/23 and been running at 310/110 no issues. It's just the PC-ABS i got sucks and can't do any bridging really what's been plaguing me
My K1C has been incredible so far. Print a lot of CF-PETG and ASA and it hasn't clogged or have any issues. It really just works and works. This printer is surprisingly quiet as well, one of the major reasons why I chose it over BL P1S.
@@marcuskethler9908 For similar price I bought a Bambu and bought the AMS. Now I can’t live without the AMS. Bambu just works, I was put off by my creality because they abandoned my first printer in a jenky state and never gave software updates later to make it better. Bambu gets updates regularly to support newer filament profiles. They also sell PLA and PETG for $15 a roll for their refills when you buy 4 at a time, with free shipping. I’ve been buying their filament because it works flawlessly and had automatic rfid detection.
I bought the first gen of the K1 and I had those underextrusion problems. I'm not ready to print on the K1 with CF but I just bought a X1C to use those expensive filaments. There's not any company that manufactures an alternative to the garbage of the extruder. I have the third extruder gen bought with my own money because Creality sent me the "second gen" and I had the same S clogs. Greetings from Spain.
"Why would more hours mean that you would get a clog" If they mean that statistically it makes sense. It's like mtbf numbers. Longer mean time between failure means simply it's statistically less likely.
The Ai detection issues and others follow a Creality trend of releasing things in firmware that don't work. Would have thought they'd learned better from the initial K1 being released with firmware features that were broken. Will be interesting to see how the Phrozen ACRO stacks up to this and the P1S.
I love the channel but as a video pro I’ve gotta recommend you boost your vocals. Every time an ad comes ones my speakers are on the cusp of waking everyone late at night up since I turned the volume up so much. Keep making buddy, your content has been invaluable!
the crazy part is i have my ender 3 v3 se running at two thirds the spped of this with a sonic pad and the new ceramic hot end (the exact same as this printer has). im liking the cross ompatability accross the line
I just sold a K1 Max 7 months old, for 325 after paying 900 for it. I had nothing but problems with it, and Creality customer service drug their rears on every issue and told me this would fix it. It gave the worst prints in my shop. And I am well versed in 3D printers having 26 of them and dealing with (I think) every problem there is possible and finding solutions. I have 12 Creality printers and made many improvements to all of them so they all print professional quality parts for my work. But I don't think I will ever buy another Creality printers because of all the TIME wasted on this printer. At least 40 hours of working ON IT, and little time working with it. It was down most all the time I had it. And when I finally asked them to take it back it was past the 3 month return time. All due to them taking so long on each issue. I put in three new hot ends. and two new extruders, one new PCB, and still even on its best day, it printed with lots of stringing, and artifacts in the surface of the prints. After the last "newest" complet hot end, installed, it clogged. I bought the Micro Swiss all metal hot end, but did not even install it as that would not fix the surface blemishes. I am not a "tinkerer" and I only work on them to improve them not to rebuild them. Just for grins I picked up the original Ender 3 latest version plain old simple printer. And I did the normal dual Z and bimetal heat break adjusted all the rollers and squared up the frames. . Printed all the same prints I did on the K1 MAX and the K1 Max prints are almost usable. The ender 3 although taking 3 times longer to print, all of them were perfect. I mean no stringing, no artifacts, the surfaces were perfect, the supports came of nicely (printing at 248 C and 85 bed PETG 0.12 layer height .4 line width). The K1 supports had to be filed off and sanded off. I am sure the new owner will find the upgrades on UA-cam and fix the printer. The K1 only printed 4 prints that were nearly perfect, but still had a lot of stringing.
It's not a K1C, but my K1 Max has the camera and does the AI detection pretty well. I've had quite a bit of filament/mess saved from it, especially after I started messing with ASA for the first time.
So should I get k1c it I had a bad experience before with creality and an Ender 5 s1 I don’t want to go through that again i just want to know if this is a good printer
Update I just got my printer and it is, very god and a world apart from my old ender 3. And the only negative things that I can point to is the spool placement, and the placement of the runout sensor mount, no file for a good side mount bracket, but I will just design one. And the lid also need a little opgrade with some riser. But very good, quick and easy to use printer, almost to easy to use.
Whelp, here's hoping this little bit of extra competition pushes Bambu into finally releasing their OSS firmware fork version. X1Plus siren song is calling...
P1S with hardened gears and ObXidian nozzle. That's what I am running and it's been great. I wouldn't go to a K1 because I wouldnt be able to run an E3D nozzle. Also, longevity and Creality have not been in the same sentence.
I got a K1C yesterday, it was printing absolutely fine until the 4th print. halfway through the first layer, no more filament was coming out. Long story short, somewhere between the Bowden tube and the nozzle, the filament got jammed. almost the whole head had to be taken apart. Not ideal. don't even know what the cause was (as in, what caused the filament to get jammed). the plastic wasn't fully melted as it was just above the entrance of the nozzle. its printing fine now, but I don't know how long it will last. i believe the issue might have something to do with the extruder assembly just based on where the jam was.
Great video. I am looking at the Creality K1 Max as opposed to the K1 that you keep mentioning in the video. Do you know if they fixed the issues that you mentioned with the K1 in the K1Max version ?
This is not a true Carbon Fiber Printer, still doesnt have a heated chamber, increasing your chance of massive failures on long prints... This printer is still trying to catch up to the massive disruption BAMBU LABS created with the X1C! Also.... you stopped doing Bambu Labs printers... have you been black listed?
Leave my ender 3 v3 SE alone! 😂 Honestly the se is pretty good as a first printer and the price will let so many people get into printing. The simple fact that I can't see a major reason for an upgrade is enough in my book to put the v3 se toward the top of a lot of lists when considering what printer to buy.
I've been printing with the Creality K1C for 1 month, and I really haven't had any printing problems. But I was having problems with the filament xd it took me a while to get a good configuration
yeah - get a K1C - its so fun tinkering and spending time unlocking all the capabilities - the actual 3D printing and getting stuff done is overrated anyway, its the tinkering that's so darn fun, all the little querks and problems with the prints that really lifts the Creality experience to a whole new level.... - you could also just get a P1S if you're into 3D printing.
I ordered K1C and received week ago 2024-03-01 and it does not have dampeners in the door hinges. I was expecting that from early model reviews, but unfortunately my doors are loose like in those early K1 reviews.
Thank You for all of your content. I enjoy your video's. You have a nice studio and produce quality content. I do need to correct you on 1 thing though. Creality's first Core X,Y printer was actually the Ender 6 to the best of my knowledge. This was long before Bambu was even a dream. If anything - Bambu copied the Ender 6 and less known Ender 7 or Voron printers. The Ender 6 came from the factory 90% enclosed also with an available tophat to make it fully enclosed. I have one myself that is pretty heavily modified. Linear Rails and direct drive extruder. The Ender 6 was before the big Klipper craze. Also before input shaping was available in the consumer / off the shelf 3D printer hobby. The Ender 6 shipped with Marlin firmware and also suffers from VFA's.
Not a surprise, both the Ender 6 and Ender 7 had severe issues and Creality has tried hard to bury its mistakes by pretending they never existed. I owned a couple of Ender 7s and Creality just gave up on them almost immediately, dumped stock on the cheap, and moved on. No spares, no firmware updates, no support.
Naming it the K1C is the better approach since it remove any confusion with the original K1. Had they kept the K1 moniker then how would a buyer know if what they are getting is the new version of an original with all the identified issues.
Thank you for your review, it has cleared up many of my doubts. This is especially valuable to me as I am currently waiting for the delivery of my K1C. I am just starting my 3D printing adventure. I have a question, if you can answer: which company's filament do you recommend? Best regards, Adam
Got to give it to creality. Everything they release is semi flawed but at a price point that retains it competitive nature. Then to listen to feedback and fix it.
I got a k1 back when they first come out and damm the issues iv had to deal with my k1 to the point I went mad completely upgrading the machine to eliminate the issues and to be honest my k1 almost prints better than my bambu p1p and iv had nothing but issues with inconsistent extrusion on the outer walls with the p1p my k1 does the same but not as bad as my p1p and hopefully I won't have ghosting anymore as I'm completely replacing my motors and pully wheels and for the extruder issue I'm gonna upgrade it to the orbiter extruder kit hopefully this will fix the inconsistent wall quality massively iv even got my self a linear rail on my x axis I'm trying to do it with the y axis at the moment aswell haha 😄
Hey Jonathan big fan of your videos, I think you should do the announce of you next clip in the same take, then add the clip when you say the next scene, everything in one take, let the editing do the job. The "extruder woes" and announce of different sections of your video are kinda too forced.
I will never buy Bambu Lab; Solely because they are closed and proprietary. HOWEVER, I will always buy Creality because they open stuff and supports FOSS. I don't mind the little quirks, when i have the freedom to fix them as i see fit. That being said, everything creality makes has been super solid reliable for me as a 3d printing farm // Business owner. Whenever i need something reliable? Creality is my #1 pick. Still have like 7x Ender-3 OGs too, 3x CR-30 Belt Printers, K1 Max and plethora from other MFGs too, but Creality tends to be the only one i stock up on and buy more than i need.
K1C-976A - Creality takes a step back, my doors fly as they please. Also the hotend gets clogged on average once every 15h. The JST connector from the thermistor is well glued until it can't be disconnected, it's just a shame that the pins of the female socket are not crimped and the whole socket falls out of the plate.... I'm waiting for the service response....
My K1 is second generation and works fine. The under-extrusion problem has been fixed with the Gen 2 hot end. Literally draw and print. But still there are some irritations with the K1 gen2: The bowden tube hitting and scratching the top and left side of the Acrylic cover. The position of the filament holder at the back is not a good choice. It seems to save space in a print farm, until you have to turn the printer clockwise to replace filament. Although I do not own a print farm, I decided to make a filament holder on the right side which makes filament replacement a lot easier. To come back to your review of the K1C: Yust after purchase of my K1 I started adding a camera, placing a better nozzle etc. So the K1C is an excellent choice and better than the K1 gen2, although the latter is definitely not a bad printer. Thanks a lot for your excellent video's!
I received a new K1C on April 9th, 2024 and had issues with the AI camera until I turned off the first layer detection as that is a LIDAR thing and K1C doesn't have LIDAR. You only want the first switch on and then it will detect things popping off the plate or squirting a rat's nest. So only the first switch needs to be on, the other 2 are for LIDAR. I can't find a retrofit kit for LIDAR on the K1C but I would love to have it.
any company that locks things down has lost me before they even get me... hint hint bambu. Huge credit to creality for opening up the firmware to users without having to jump through hoops. This means this is a legit possibility for me as a future purchase. One of the biggest challenges companies like creality have to overcome is that they don't think like a Western customer. They have their own local way of thinking, which is not a bad thing, but if you want to build to suit your target market you have to THINK like your target market. The things you find important may not be what others find important. Far too often companies get stuck with this mindset and instead of asking their potential customers "what do you want?" they wind up telling them "this is what you get to have" and then they spend more time wondering why their customers went elsewhere.
I used to have that mondset too, until I bought a bambu a1 mini. Within 20 minutes of unboxing it I'm getting perfect prints aside from a bad roll of filament (esun pla+). No necessary out of the box upgrades, tuning or tinkering. Replacement parts and accessories are very inexpensive so I grabbed a few extra nozzles and things that will eventually need replacing like build plates, belts fans. I'm fine with things being "locked down" when the experience is a streamlined as bambu makes it.
@@NWGR I get why someone would want an easy, it is the box expense but I've found that easy isn't really worth anything in the long run. Besides, for me at least, stock is never good enough. I've never owned a car that i didn't upgrade with aftermarket parts. Never had a computer that was left as the manufacturer built it. But for some i guess they're happy to just accept what they're offered. I'm not one of them. To each his own
@@Enjoymentboy That's fine; like you said, different strokes for different folks and all that. I started 3d printing on an ender 3 pro I heavily modified, but these days I want to spend more time with 3d modeling and actual printing.
@@NWGRI don't think being open contradicts having a good out of the box experience. It sounds like the K1C will also have a good out of the box experience, and Prusas also have a good out of box experience. It has more to do with the company paying attention to detail and getting it right, rather than whether or not somebody can flip a switch and do whatever they want.
@@logicalfundy I've already seen a few reviews where the K1C was a very bad out of box experience; creality still has QC issues. Prusa I agree are great printers, but they do take hours to assemble (8 according to prusa for the Mk IV), and the Mk IV is $1100usd, compared to the $600 for a bambu P1P, or even $399 for an A1 once that comes back in stock. So IMHO, they just don't hold the value they used to. In addition, a woodworker on youtube who has 30 something printers (mostly prusa and bambu) recently did a print farm comparison video and the bambu printers had less issues over a two month period. He paid for his printers btw too, so his opinion wasn't skewed. Shop Nation, check it out. Like I said, these days I want to spend time 3d modeling and printing, not tuning a printer and messing with settings.
I wonder if the desire to use open source firmware (Kevin's Klipper3d, Marlin, etc) will go away if the printer just works. If you're not into the hobby of the printer itself (ala reprap), and just need the prints, then it won't matter. Similar to drone software, if DJI has everything you need, you won't want to load Ardupilot/Pixhawk (PX4), etc.
Am I the only one who wonder about the buildplate issues in 3D printing. Because still after several years of printing on the first bed of my sidewinder x1, i never had a problem with to less or to high first layer adhesion. Or am I just lucky with this particular build plate? The only thing i have to take care is the right temperature of the bed. So far i printed pla, pla+, petg and tpu. I also printed a few parts from abs successfully but I would not recommend this because this hotend is not built for it but the build plate did just fine. So the question is why we don't see this kind of build plate everywhere?
Thanks for watching! If you enjoyed, please leave a like so my algorithmic overlord doesn’t frown upon me.
btw they are thinking to make a multicolor option for your printer
I ordered K1C and received week ago 2024-03-01 and it does not have dampeners in the door hinges. I was expecting that from early model reviews, but unfortunately my doors are flapping loose.
Can you do a Thorough review of the Flashforge Adventurer 5M? That machine right now is flying off shelves at the $299 and its a Core XY. I have seen mixed results about build quality and I really would like to know the bottom line on it
You should mark this as a sponsored video. They sent you the printer for free that’s a sponsored deal. Reported
Bambu had issues with A1 and recalled/fixed and moved forward. Qidi (my pick) had issues with 3dplus and max and recalled and fixed and moved forward. I hope this trend of customer care continues with Creality also.
Hope so too.
Correct me if I'm wrong - Qidi provided their 1st gen plus3 customers with options to fully replace the printer - Creality just introduced a new model w/ the original still being offered. Did 1st gen K1 customers get the same Qidi customer support?
I bought my K1 3 or 4 months ago and it has the newer extruder so no problems only added the camera and rooted it. I really like it so far. I don't know if all buyers that where in the early models where able to get an updated extruder.@@farad37
Lmao no, Creality service is dog shit.
@@briankale5977 yeap. and theres no way in hell they will ever do a full recall of anything.
I've had open source printers and spent 80% of my time tweaking/fixing. It was miserable. I tried Bambu Labs and it just works. It's been the most fun I could have had 3d printing. I don't care a bit if it's open source or not, I care it if will print consistently. 2 weeks after getting the Bambu Labs printer I hauled my Creality out the the trash. Best use for it.
Same Here!
dang man shoulda sold the hotend to someone for a side project.
Yup. Brand new to printing. Buddy tried to get me into a K1. I said nope, I don't want to tune/tinker, I want to print. He's still working through issues with his K1. I'm printing. Could care less if it's open source. It effin works and does what I need it to as a novice consumer. I'm blown away at the quality with .08 layers with pla. I'm a bambu sucker, I buy only thier filament, they did the tinkering and tuning. It works.
@@s13kuminachu I tried 3 k1's all were junk from the factory...
@fern_v 3! Man you have patience. Did you get a bambu?
Ah bro that's so badass. You went to directly talk to the software team in China and it seems you directly were able to bring change to this product for the better in giving users access to full blown klipper. Cool af. Thanks for the hard work!
One of the key takeaways here is that "China" isn't just some gray mass that pumps out faceless products (like many of us living in West instictively might think), but there are actual human beings developing the products. 😅
Customers want a working product, who would have guessed.
I totally agree with this standpoint. And I honestly wonder why this wasn’t as much of a priority in the past few years. That should be the most simple requirement, “actually works consistently”
@@Ben...---...It only became a priority once Bambu continued to dethrone them, even after the K1. Why be proactive when you can be reactive?
@@pyrokinetic_666 Creality is never pro or reactive lol. They just copy IP and do the whole middle school thing of like "yours prints 500mm? Well ours is SIX hundred. *Sticks out tongue.* Without actually innovating, all at. 😂
@@briankale5977 nah i had a creality and it was hot garbage. Swapped to a bambu lab printer and its night and day difference
Not creality. I've spent more money getting my cr10s5 working than on the initial printer, sunk cost fallacy at its finest
Agreed. It's not the K1 we wanted but its the K1 we deserved (in the first place).
I got 2 versions of the K1.
1st Version (do not own): Launch Version; The BAD K1 that everyone hears about. Bad aluminum internals extruder, bad hotend, bad alignment and leveling, easily hit by the cable chain WEAK filament engagement switch,
2nd Version (Purchased Aug 2023) had a STEEL (POLISHED SWITCH) Extruder and stronger filament gear switch . It had BLACK silcone covered hotend that had bad thermistor connection that would fail and throw a Error 004 (went throw 3 of them in 2 months before they sent CURRENT Hotend available for K1 and K1 Max.
3rd Version (Purchased Nov 2023) had New Redesigned extruder with better filament path through the extruder (UNPOLISHED SWITCH and NON Unicorn Nozzle) and tighter switch (Now used in the V3 Core XZ). It also now comes with the redesigned RED Silcone covered Hotend with better thermistor connection (These are current Replacements being sold everywhere for K1 and K1 Max).
4th Version (do not own (yet)) SEEMS to be the K1C. I am not seeing any of the K1C upgrades on the newest one I have (3rd Gen).
The newer k1 and k1max will include the new tri unicorn nozzle but brass instead. The k1 max will include an extra hardened nozzle.
Why are you still buying them lol
I will stay with Bambu P1s with AMS and hardened update for hard materials. It does look like they fixed the K1. Thank you.
This is a very important video for every potential K1 buyer. Because of all those issues and the price I got the Flashforge Adventurer 5M instead which also was cheaper.
Don´t forget the K1C has still a smaller print surface. 220x220 vs 256x256
Got my K1 mid Jan, no problems extruding, running a lot of ABS, a few mods, top riser, filament runout relocation, and i feed out of a drybox beside the printer. Door is still loose!!! But i haven’t had a problems with that. Swapped the nozzle for a hardened unit and am printing ABS CF with no problems. Oh and i am using double sided pei build plate..
I've had my K1 Max now for about a month, and it has been amazing! I rooted it within the first week, and it is so versatile. Love the AI detection, as it has saved me wasted filament on a couple of prints due to adhesion issues due to wrong settings. Having it be open source, and not a closed system, was a big selling point for me over getting an X1C, as well as the larger build volume. I've done a lot of upgrades to it, and have made it my own, with the smaller pulleys sitting on my desk for my next mod. It came with the updated extruder, and hardened steel nozzle, which I quickly swapped out for a .6mm nozzle. I've printed PA-6 Carbon no problems, as well ABS and ASA with relatively little issues. Can't wait to get another! lol
I hear you, and it's good to have choices, but saying that it's wonderful - after upgrading this, that, and the other - is exactly why people go with the X1. They want to make 3D-printed parts, not have a 3D printer project.
I have been a Creatily customer for 5 years and while it is nice to be able to customize everything, sometimes a simple solution is the best. I recently bought a bambu x1 carbon and have to say, it feels like a different thing. I have had so many creatily printers and bambu really did something special. It feels like Microsoft vs Apple again. Windows tries really hard but fails and stumbles so many times to get there, while Apple just puts stuff out there that works.
I built my own 3D printer from scratch. I learned a lot, and once it was working pretty well, I turned to using it as an actual tool - you know, actually making stuff instead of messing with it. After dealing with failures on parts I actually wanted to, you know, Use, I had enough and bought a Bambu X1. No regrets.
Creality... Not once again...
My 1st 3d printer, ender 3 v2, came warped... fixed it
Needed a 2nd printer.... Buy a 2nd ender 3 v2 ...
Modified both
But always Warped frame
Warped Bed
Random clogs and string
Even bought a creality spider v3 and make it DD , and it really make it better...
Tried to print a the100 printer, frame came warped because of ender 3 tolerances...
Bought a bambu P1s... Oh man, i really never want to see creality ever again...
Nice review btw! Hugs from portugal!
The K1 Max doesn't use its lidar for bed leveling, it uses it for pressure advance and flow calibration... relatively poorly I might add. I believe the biggest issue with the k1 series on first layer issues is doing a bed mesh too early while the bed is still heating up and warping as a result. The thin aluminum plate on the k1 and k1max tends to change quite a bit as it heats up, and even at temp needs a few minutes to finish soaking.
Yeah that'll happen when you just try to copy a design and don't actually understand why it's applied. 😂
I've have a K1C and a P1S in a small print farm printing ABS all day everyday and after using the P1S for 8 months it has failed with no real support from Bambulabs. People have a go at Creality but their support is far better than Bambulabs and after 1 year of continous operation the K1C is still printing ABS parts all day every day just as good as the day i got it. I have K1 Max's as well as the original K1 and have had issues with those but the K1C has been great. I would probably recommend the K1C over the P1S purely because of the stainless steel rods over the carbon rods of the P1S, that is the failure point for the P1S, they seize up over time i (wth ABS, ASA) due to heat warp and new cheaper steel bearings. K1C steel rods can be lubricated and that just keeps them going forever.
ive just recently got a p1s from bambu lab with the ams an its completely changed my expectation from my printers, the p1s was the 13th printer to my collection but everything about it was better than my older machines an its made me realize how much 3d printing has advanced in the past 5 yrs, i knew they had gotten faster but the ease of use of the machines has gotten alot better from what im used to using so im looking at selling off some of my older machines an replacing them with some new machines, ive never been someone who picked a brand an stuck with it but i do have 3 creality machines ender 3 3 max and ender 5 an i ended up with 2 flsun qq-s pro but the rest was gotten because of the differences from what i already had but at this point delta and corexy is going to be my picks, an the new creality ender 3 v3 corexy bed slinger is one id like to try an i had considered the k1 but went with bambu lab p1s instead and im so glad i did but at the same time that k1 max is really tempting an does deal with my biggest complaint about the p1s and thats build volume, thats become something i have to have for alot of the stuff i make so at least a 300x300 build plate for a bambu lab printer would def be my next buy if they release something like that b4 i buy another machine. i never was a big prusa guy either but that new prusa xl looks really nice but i dont know if multiple tool heads would be worth the money for me when something like the ams is available, i dont know how well the mmu work from prusa now but i know when it first came out i read alot of ppl having issues, but if they've worked out all of the bugs for it i wouldn't mind trying one of there multicolor setups with a mk4 or xl with a single tool head cause i cant really see any good reason to spend 500 bux for a 2nd tool head but im def going to check out some of these newer printers.
Thanks for the review! Looks like next time I'm considering a new printer, Creality will be on the table again. It does look like they're trying to do things differently than they used to.
Although it is annoying that all of the quick swap designs so far have been proprietary, rather than coming together to come up with a standard.
Just bought a K1, it was a learning experience. I had to replace the hot end, the extruder, and the pcmb in order to get it to work properly. I printed the first test print and failed every print after until I replaced essentially the entire print head. For what I paid to fix it I could have bought a K1C and a few spools. The part that really gets me is to hold me over until everything was fixed I bought a Bambu A1 mini with the AMS. That has been an absolute rockstar.
I just ordered my K1C along with the Creality Space Pi Filament Dryer that you have displayed in your video. I signed up for their "Upgrade Event" and received a coupon code for 15% off the $559 K1C price and 15% off the $69 filament dryer price. Paid for it thru PayPal and got an extra 2% off the order for a total of 17% off. Thanks for your review...I look forward to receiving mine too.
Cancel your order, I've owned 4 creality printers sent the K1 back, broken out of the box, bad hotend, the other 3 are in various stages of being broken, my 1 bambu has printed more successfully than all combined, creality is garbage, spend a little more and save yourself the headache of working on a creality printer as a project instead of your prints.
Thanks for feedback. I'll give K1C a shot...but if any issues...will not hesitate to send it back.@@OEFOIFOUPVet
@@OEFOIFOUPVet My Bambu broke after 3 weeks.
My Creality business model theory: It is cheaper to over charge or build in return shipping/customer service gaslighting into cost to build, and not have to pay a QC department. They use cheap labor for Manufacturing, Sales/Customer gas-lighting and Shipping. Then have the customer do the run-in QC for them, and roll the dice on people missing the return window gaining a higher non-return of bad printers.
I got 2 bad "new" k1's out of the box off Amazon and 1 bad refurbished from Creality Official Refurbished (refurb, thinking I was beating the repair times since both my others came non-functional... that idea failed. It came with no screen and they could not get me a screen). I have one half failed benchy to show for 2 months of my time and 3 Creality printers. I guess UA-camrs only get shipped the "working" ones to bait the rest of us.
Great review. Only printer that I’ve had was an Anycubic mega x. It works flawlessly. It’s just slow. I wanted to print carbon fiber so I went with K1C. About 100 hrs so far. Zero problems. Extremely fine detailed flawless 3d prints. I was worried after I decided to buy after reviewing some reviews or Creality. Turns out I made a lucky choice and it’s extremely fast.
Would you please do reviews of 3 d scanners?
Thanks
I bought the K1 in August of 2023, and the printer was great for about 2 months, then it had ever problem youtubers talk about, I ended getting rid of it because I couldn't get it fixed! SO I am done with Creality they were less than useless to get it fixed. I donated it to the local library they wanted it for parts for their other K1 printers. I now have two Bambu printers that I love the P1S and the A1 mini. I can't believe how much easier and better the bambu printers are. So when you talked about all the issues with original I can give you 3 other issues ;).
This has me interested. I’m comparing between Creality and Bambu for my printer upgrade. Having the software unlocked out the box is a big deal.
I unlocked so much performance from my Ender 3 v2 when I converted it to Klipper but lost the use of the local screen.
Creality has done CoreXY before this, my Ender 6 is one such example.
Also ender 7
Idk why people buy a bottom end manufacturers printer and expect top tier performance and features.
@EFLO3D you must be a salesman for the "industrial market".
I was having frustrating problems with my old Sapphire Pro, and decided to just ditch it and spring for a new printer. I didn't do any significant research and initially ordered a Flashforge. But then I watched a review that it was locked down. I came here and watched this and once you said they'd opened the firmware, I ordered a K1C. Fingers crossed.
I have the k1c and it's absolutely a great machine. I printed so much with it,never had 1 issue. It makes super nice work, and I can back that up with the projects I still have at home made by the k1c. It's far more superior then the first k1 series.
i agree with creality k1 series is better than bambulab but creality printers dont
have ams
Just how close a look did you take at this printer? They withdrew the marketing about all metal extruder some time back, as it isn't. I also thought the pulleys on the K1C are smaller, not larger and that bed cant really be called flat can it? Have you tried it at different temps to see just how much it distorts with temp?
Yeah I’m wondering the same
I’m going to get my K1C this Friday and I am looking forward to getting it, but I am also going to get the silicone socks, as well as brass and hardened nozzles next week, as well as a Maintenance kit that I am supposed to get today. One thing that I don’t think is discussed is the fact that there’s no warranty on any printers that are sold on Amazon, when it comes to things that I think you should discuss on your channel.
@@renegadebiker24 how'd it go?
I have a rooted K1 running klipper with added cam, and hardened nozzles. I love it. For 450 bucks it cant be beat.
Great video. You alluded to it a little bit in the video comparing it to the k1 Max. And it also see in the comments you mentioned that the k1 Max had some warp bed issues. I would appreciate if you put together a quick video on the overall comparisons between the K1C and the k1 Max. At this point I'm leaning towards the k1 Max just for the build volume. Thanks!
I actually never got the Max! Maybe if there’s a K1C Max I’ll get it.
Chep had warping issues with the K1 Max as well and it seemed to be the smooth bed surface (A Plate) not having a good enough grip for large scale models. Swapping to a textured PEI bed (B Plate) off Amazon seemed to have fixed it if I remember correctly.
Creality sells the Textured PIE plate for this machine on Amazon. Does not have the brush. So far the K1C has been steller.
My K1C doesn‘t have more friction on the door hinges. It’s as loose as the original K1.
Odd…
Because you cannot guarantee no clogs. There is a chance of a clog happening even if your printer is perfect. The printers performance is somewhat at the mercy of the filament its using. Also, nozzles start to wear and get buildup, so over time the chances of clogging do go up. So them saying that the chances of a clog happening after a longer print time, based on the anti-clogging changes they made, is valid.
If I had purchased the original K1 and had these issues, I would not be happy. I don't like my time and money being used for a companies R&D. If I am doing R&D for Creality, then not only should I not have to pay for the printer, Creality should be paying me for my time.
Creality seems to actually be making some good decisions now, and I think their newest printers are very good. Its a shame they wasted 5 years or more playing marketing games by releasing redundant products instead of innovating and making their products better. My first printer was the original CR-10, and that was creality actually being the disruptor and making their name based on their product. Maybe they have come full circle to this again.
Hey Jonathan! Seriously great video!
I just posted a video today actually where I show a work around on how you can avoid using Creality Print slicer with the v3 and K1C!
It works with basically any slicer and you get access to the web UI again!
Im not just tryin to advertise myself though.. I noticed Creality also only sent a single sided build plate with the v3 but it didnt even come with a wiper!
I think that Is like my main beef with the v3... I hate having to constantly clean that filament wipe spot. Just doesnt make sense to me for them to do the v3 like that the way they did with the wiper. with the v3 they had the perfect bedslinger kinematic for a MMU also. Not sure why they didnta wait on that tbh.
I predict that a larger sized ender 3 v3 is going to be coming out soon, the v3 max and then shortly after that the creality MMU will be out. Mark my words
im a newbie 3d printer user and i got the K1C. i personally believe the set up and software was great for my uses ! well see when i need to step things up!
Please stop calling the k1c open source. They still aren't comliant with the GPL. Various klipper modules are shipped in cpython in binary form.
The K1C probes for the brush before it tries to rub anything on it. I haven’t tested it because I still only own the one build plate, but I imagine that if it doesn’t detect a brush it might not try to clean the nozzle on it.
That is right. If the brush is not there, it will not try to clean the tip. I tested this and that is the case. The brush is just stuck on the build plate using some double sided tape. It will work lose after a while. I found a model where you can glue the brush onto, screw into the printer and then use other build plates.
I have a later K1, which I managed to purchase for only £360 pounds, in time limited deals, direct from them! A whole lot less than any bambu XY printer. The new extruder design has been fine, no issues, other than one, when I ran a temperature torture test one time, it jammed and had to clean the nozzle (since replaced to a new one) so even that was not extruder really. The only issue I find, is that the filament is awkward to load in sometimes. Tried all sorts of different cuts, but in the end, as long as I cut/file a point on the end, it normally loads without having to release the bowden tube. Never have any bed sticking issues, though I do use 3d lac, mainly so I don't have to clean the bed each time, I might go 10 prints out more, and just give a light dusting each time. For disclosure, I also have the use of a Bambu X-Carbon, with AMS, which is a great machine. A real work horse, with the AMS, which is brilliant. But.... I just love my K1, it works, I can mess around with it, I've added all the whistles and bells, filters, camera etc, and it does everything I ask of it.
So, as an owner of an early k1, I have updated the extruder, replaced the stock hotend, raised the roof, printed out the 270° hinges. As a person who likes to fiddle with tools, it's been mostly fun.
have you added the carbon filter? If so did you buy a K1-c replacement filter or did you source the filter and just print a cowl to hold it?
@doro626 I vent the exhaust outside, so no carbon filter
Ok thanks. @@LostChaos1313
2 Weeks ago now?..How on Earth did I miss This Video?.. Would Have been very beneficial, regardless..This is another Home Run!…Good Detail, Good Notes, Great insight…
Rad🤙🏻
I don't think they have the quality control part dialed in yet (or maybe they never will) as I see half of the reviews of K1C (all very recent) on their website had some significant issues. Good thing that K1C was unobtanium a couple weeks ago when I was considering it, so I went with P1S AMS combo. I have a feeling I would be one of those 'lucky' people who got faulty units if I had ordered the K1C.
❤ thanks for that :) i have to say: open source was the reason i ordered a creality k series printer over a bambu!
I've bought a K1 Max last week, and received it with the smaller pulleys, unicorn nozzle and magnetic door outlines.
So far, so good.
Oh, and it came with a warped bed too. 🙄
I have had my k1 for about 1 month now, and I'm happy to say that I haven't had any of the problems the first generation of ,1printers had. It works perfectly
Seems like a lot of companies don't test their own product before shipping. They try to rush it to market which is annoying and bad for the customer.
I like the Bambu ecosystem…. But my next, bigger printer is likely to be a Creality or Sovol, w open source and tons of updates and more flexibility in nozzles etc. and especially I like that they have their own cloud solution, too.
Own two K1
Nozzles upgraded to unicorn
Build plate upgraded to PEI gold
Klipper
Orca slicer
Added cameras
Plus few printed mods designed by myself
AHH. Both second hand. Both showing signs of users trying to fix clogging issues
I would like to see more information about noise while printing in different speeds and with different materials. With the current developments in the 3D printer space, noise becomes an issue for those of us that can't afford a seperate room for 3D printing or are otherwise sensitive to noise. Thanks!
Creality has definitely been making some good progress with their offerings as of late, now they just need to learn how to phase out older versions of things there are barely different than the newer renditions..
I got spooked with my K1 Max and returned it after it dugged into the bed so hard.
I bet they are doing a lot better but it took some time for them to fix the issue with an update.
I couldn't buy another Creality printer, i've spent too much money on this company
Hmm... awesome review!! I recently bought myself a Flashforge adventurer 5m pro on Amazon as my experience with creality in the past has left a lot to be desired. I wonder if maybe I should have given this printer a chance. But then again, the Flashforge just works great right out of the box. I like the fact that creality has granted root access, though.. I am still trying to figure out how to install klipper on the flashforge as the klipper Flashforge provides is just a standard klipper file set.
I’m not sure this is the printer for me, but it at least gives me some hope that we’ll see open source models approaching the polished of the Bambu Labs machines in a year or two.
The biggest mistake Creality made was not selling a kit to upgrade K1’s to K1C’s updates. It is what lead me to ditch Creality after buying a K1 and then seeing the K1C with all issues fixed but on preorder for $250+ extra. Bye bye Creality, hello Bambu.
I have been really tempted to get a Bambu P1S, but the closed nature is just hard for me to accept. In addition to my Ender 5+, Ender 3 v2, I'm much more inclined to get another Creality, so long as they keep things open.
The issue that I have with the K1C is something that I have posted a video of it on my UA-cam channel. One issue is the way they have a yellow hot glue on the connector that goes to the thermostat and the thermistor. I will make another video on this issue soon on my channel. The new extruder is another thing that I will discuss on my next video compared to the old one, which as far as I can see is an outdated version and date that came with my original K1C. I have a flow tech nozzle that I am going to install hopefully with the next video. The flow tech nozzle is what can be used to have different types of nozzles from the hardened steel nozzle to the different types of brass nozzles.
Bed over 100C -> No issues. I've been trying to do PC-ABS with my K1 Max ordered ~12/23 and been running at 310/110 no issues. It's just the PC-ABS i got sucks and can't do any bridging really what's been plaguing me
My K1C has been incredible so far. Print a lot of CF-PETG and ASA and it hasn't clogged or have any issues. It really just works and works. This printer is surprisingly quiet as well, one of the major reasons why I chose it over BL P1S.
Hi. What settings do you use when run PETG? I dont get it to work and i have glued the plate and run creality standard settings.
@@ronnylivbom9721 I use orca slicer with 260c nozzle and 80c bed. I used the generic petg profile.
What do you think of it in comparison to the P1S without the AMS? They are about the same price and I'm not sure which one to go with.
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@@marcuskethler9908 For similar price I bought a Bambu and bought the AMS. Now I can’t live without the AMS. Bambu just works, I was put off by my creality because they abandoned my first printer in a jenky state and never gave software updates later to make it better. Bambu gets updates regularly to support newer filament profiles. They also sell PLA and PETG for $15 a roll for their refills when you buy 4 at a time, with free shipping. I’ve been buying their filament because it works flawlessly and had automatic rfid detection.
have you had one? Which one did you bought?
I bought the first gen of the K1 and I had those underextrusion problems. I'm not ready to print on the K1 with CF but I just bought a X1C to use those expensive filaments. There's not any company that manufactures an alternative to the garbage of the extruder. I have the third extruder gen bought with my own money because Creality sent me the "second gen" and I had the same S clogs. Greetings from Spain.
"Why would more hours mean that you would get a clog"
If they mean that statistically it makes sense. It's like mtbf numbers. Longer mean time between failure means simply it's statistically less likely.
The Ai detection issues and others follow a Creality trend of releasing things in firmware that don't work. Would have thought they'd learned better from the initial K1 being released with firmware features that were broken. Will be interesting to see how the Phrozen ACRO stacks up to this and the P1S.
I love the channel but as a video pro I’ve gotta recommend you boost your vocals. Every time an ad comes ones my speakers are on the cusp of waking everyone late at night up since I turned the volume up so much. Keep making buddy, your content has been invaluable!
And the logo stinger at the end just shook the house lol
Thanks for the tip we will do that!
the crazy part is i have my ender 3 v3 se running at two thirds the spped of this with a sonic pad and the new ceramic hot end (the exact same as this printer has).
im liking the cross ompatability accross the line
I just sold a K1 Max 7 months old, for 325 after paying 900 for it. I had nothing but problems with it, and Creality customer service drug their rears on every issue and told me this would fix it. It gave the worst prints in my shop. And I am well versed in 3D printers having 26 of them and dealing with (I think) every problem there is possible and finding solutions. I have 12 Creality printers and made many improvements to all of them so they all print professional quality parts for my work. But I don't think I will ever buy another Creality printers because of all the TIME wasted on this printer. At least 40 hours of working ON IT, and little time working with it. It was down most all the time I had it. And when I finally asked them to take it back it was past the 3 month return time. All due to them taking so long on each issue. I put in three new hot ends. and two new extruders, one new PCB, and still even on its best day, it printed with lots of stringing, and artifacts in the surface of the prints. After the last "newest" complet hot end, installed, it clogged. I bought the Micro Swiss all metal hot end, but did not even install it as that would not fix the surface blemishes. I am not a "tinkerer" and I only work on them to improve them not to rebuild them.
Just for grins I picked up the original Ender 3 latest version plain old simple printer. And I did the normal dual Z and bimetal heat break adjusted all the rollers and squared up the frames. . Printed all the same prints I did on the K1 MAX and the K1 Max prints are almost usable. The ender 3 although taking 3 times longer to print, all of them were perfect. I mean no stringing, no artifacts, the surfaces were perfect, the supports came of nicely (printing at 248 C and 85 bed PETG 0.12 layer height .4 line width). The K1 supports had to be filed off and sanded off. I am sure the new owner will find the upgrades on UA-cam and fix the printer. The K1 only printed 4 prints that were nearly perfect, but still had a lot of stringing.
It's not a K1C, but my K1 Max has the camera and does the AI detection pretty well. I've had quite a bit of filament/mess saved from it, especially after I started messing with ASA for the first time.
So should I get k1c it I had a bad experience before with creality and an Ender 5 s1 I don’t want to go through that again i just want to know if this is a good printer
No recommend avoiding creality
The open firmware is great. So I think my old faithful highly modified ender 3 pro will me replaced😊.
Thanks for the review
Update I just got my printer and it is, very god and a world apart from my old ender 3.
And the only negative things that I can point to is the spool placement, and the placement of the runout sensor mount, no file for a good side mount bracket, but I will just design one.
And the lid also need a little opgrade with some riser.
But very good, quick and easy to use printer, almost to easy to use.
I am literally about to buy one of these 2 printers... This video is assisting in that choice very much so...
Whelp, here's hoping this little bit of extra competition pushes Bambu into finally releasing their OSS firmware fork version. X1Plus siren song is calling...
P1S with hardened gears and ObXidian nozzle. That's what I am running and it's been great. I wouldn't go to a K1 because I wouldnt be able to run an E3D nozzle. Also, longevity and Creality have not been in the same sentence.
I got a K1C yesterday, it was printing absolutely fine until the 4th print. halfway through the first layer, no more filament was coming out. Long story short, somewhere between the Bowden tube and the nozzle, the filament got jammed. almost the whole head had to be taken apart. Not ideal. don't even know what the cause was (as in, what caused the filament to get jammed). the plastic wasn't fully melted as it was just above the entrance of the nozzle. its printing fine now, but I don't know how long it will last. i believe the issue might have something to do with the extruder assembly just based on where the jam was.
Great video. I am looking at the Creality K1 Max as opposed to the K1 that you keep mentioning in the video. Do you know if they fixed the issues that you mentioned with the K1 in the K1Max version ?
Not sure sorry. I don’t have a max. Hope they’ll do a K1C max though.
This is not a true Carbon Fiber Printer, still doesnt have a heated chamber, increasing your chance of massive failures on long prints...
This printer is still trying to catch up to the massive disruption BAMBU LABS created with the X1C!
Also.... you stopped doing Bambu Labs printers... have you been black listed?
Leave my ender 3 v3 SE alone! 😂 Honestly the se is pretty good as a first printer and the price will let so many people get into printing. The simple fact that I can't see a major reason for an upgrade is enough in my book to put the v3 se toward the top of a lot of lists when considering what printer to buy.
I've been printing with the Creality K1C for 1 month, and I really haven't had any printing problems.
But I was having problems with the filament xd it took me a while to get a good configuration
yeah - get a K1C - its so fun tinkering and spending time unlocking all the capabilities - the actual 3D printing and getting stuff done is overrated anyway, its the tinkering that's so darn fun, all the little querks and problems with the prints that really lifts the Creality experience to a whole new level.... - you could also just get a P1S if you're into 3D printing.
personally I have not really had any issues with my K1 Max..only had to tighten my extruder... got it just as they came out..
The K1 Max had much fewer issues because it came out after the K1 fiasco. It just had bed warp issues.
I ordered K1C and received week ago 2024-03-01 and it does not have dampeners in the door hinges. I was expecting that from early model reviews, but unfortunately my doors are loose like in those early K1 reviews.
Shitty!
Thank You for all of your content. I enjoy your video's. You have a nice studio and produce quality content. I do need to correct you on 1 thing though. Creality's first Core X,Y printer was actually the Ender 6 to the best of my knowledge. This was long before Bambu was even a dream. If anything - Bambu copied the Ender 6 and less known Ender 7 or Voron printers. The Ender 6 came from the factory 90% enclosed also with an available tophat to make it fully enclosed. I have one myself that is pretty heavily modified. Linear Rails and direct drive extruder. The Ender 6 was before the big Klipper craze. Also before input shaping was available in the consumer / off the shelf 3D printer hobby. The Ender 6 shipped with Marlin firmware and also suffers from VFA's.
Wow! I had no idea and have never heard of it. Thanks!
Not a surprise, both the Ender 6 and Ender 7 had severe issues and Creality has tried hard to bury its mistakes by pretending they never existed. I owned a couple of Ender 7s and Creality just gave up on them almost immediately, dumped stock on the cheap, and moved on. No spares, no firmware updates, no support.
Which printer would you recommend, the K1C or the Bambu Lab A1?
Naming it the K1C is the better approach since it remove any confusion with the original K1. Had they kept the K1 moniker then how would a buyer know if what they are getting is the new version of an original with all the identified issues.
Thank you for your review, it has cleared up many of my doubts. This is especially valuable to me as I am currently waiting for the delivery of my K1C. I am just starting my 3D printing adventure.
I have a question, if you can answer: which company's filament do you recommend?
Best regards,
Adam
Https://jle.vi/polymaker is the best out there as far as I’m concerned.
Got to give it to creality.
Everything they release is semi flawed but at a price point that retains it competitive nature. Then to listen to feedback and fix it.
I got a k1 back when they first come out and damm the issues iv had to deal with my k1 to the point I went mad completely upgrading the machine to eliminate the issues and to be honest my k1 almost prints better than my bambu p1p and iv had nothing but issues with inconsistent extrusion on the outer walls with the p1p my k1 does the same but not as bad as my p1p and hopefully I won't have ghosting anymore as I'm completely replacing my motors and pully wheels and for the extruder issue I'm gonna upgrade it to the orbiter extruder kit hopefully this will fix the inconsistent wall quality massively iv even got my self a linear rail on my x axis I'm trying to do it with the y axis at the moment aswell haha 😄
Hey Jonathan big fan of your videos, I think you should do the announce of you next clip in the same take, then add the clip when you say the next scene, everything in one take, let the editing do the job. The "extruder woes" and announce of different sections of your video are kinda too forced.
I will never buy Bambu Lab; Solely because they are closed and proprietary.
HOWEVER, I will always buy Creality because they open stuff and supports FOSS.
I don't mind the little quirks, when i have the freedom to fix them as i see fit.
That being said, everything creality makes has been super solid reliable for me as a 3d printing farm // Business owner. Whenever i need something reliable? Creality is my #1 pick.
Still have like 7x Ender-3 OGs too, 3x CR-30 Belt Printers, K1 Max
and plethora from other MFGs too, but Creality tends to be the only one i stock up on and buy more than i need.
I need an excuse to buy K1C too despite farm has been idle for 2 weeks :/
K1C-976A - Creality takes a step back, my doors fly as they please. Also the hotend gets clogged on average once every 15h. The JST connector from the thermistor is well glued until it can't be disconnected, it's just a shame that the pins of the female socket are not crimped and the whole socket falls out of the plate.... I'm waiting for the service response....
My K1 is second generation and works fine. The under-extrusion problem has been fixed with the Gen 2 hot end.
Literally draw and print.
But still there are some irritations with the K1 gen2: The bowden tube hitting and scratching the top and left side of the Acrylic cover.
The position of the filament holder at the back is not a good choice. It seems to save space in a print farm, until you have to turn the printer clockwise to replace filament.
Although I do not own a print farm, I decided to make a filament holder on the right side which makes filament replacement a lot easier.
To come back to your review of the K1C: Yust after purchase of my K1 I started adding a camera, placing a better nozzle etc. So the K1C is an excellent choice and better than the K1 gen2, although the latter is definitely not a bad printer.
Thanks a lot for your excellent video's!
I received a new K1C on April 9th, 2024 and had issues with the AI camera until I turned off the first layer detection as that is a LIDAR thing and K1C doesn't have LIDAR. You only want the first switch on and then it will detect things popping off the plate or squirting a rat's nest. So only the first switch needs to be on, the other 2 are for LIDAR. I can't find a retrofit kit for LIDAR on the K1C but I would love to have it.
bambu textures both sides of the build plate, unfortunatly it wears out after about 12 prints(at least for me)
any company that locks things down has lost me before they even get me... hint hint bambu. Huge credit to creality for opening up the firmware to users without having to jump through hoops. This means this is a legit possibility for me as a future purchase.
One of the biggest challenges companies like creality have to overcome is that they don't think like a Western customer. They have their own local way of thinking, which is not a bad thing, but if you want to build to suit your target market you have to THINK like your target market. The things you find important may not be what others find important. Far too often companies get stuck with this mindset and instead of asking their potential customers "what do you want?" they wind up telling them "this is what you get to have" and then they spend more time wondering why their customers went elsewhere.
I used to have that mondset too, until I bought a bambu a1 mini. Within 20 minutes of unboxing it I'm getting perfect prints aside from a bad roll of filament (esun pla+). No necessary out of the box upgrades, tuning or tinkering. Replacement parts and accessories are very inexpensive so I grabbed a few extra nozzles and things that will eventually need replacing like build plates, belts fans.
I'm fine with things being "locked down" when the experience is a streamlined as bambu makes it.
@@NWGR I get why someone would want an easy, it is the box expense but I've found that easy isn't really worth anything in the long run. Besides, for me at least, stock is never good enough. I've never owned a car that i didn't upgrade with aftermarket parts. Never had a computer that was left as the manufacturer built it. But for some i guess they're happy to just accept what they're offered. I'm not one of them. To each his own
@@Enjoymentboy That's fine; like you said, different strokes for different folks and all that. I started 3d printing on an ender 3 pro I heavily modified, but these days I want to spend more time with 3d modeling and actual printing.
@@NWGRI don't think being open contradicts having a good out of the box experience. It sounds like the K1C will also have a good out of the box experience, and Prusas also have a good out of box experience. It has more to do with the company paying attention to detail and getting it right, rather than whether or not somebody can flip a switch and do whatever they want.
@@logicalfundy I've already seen a few reviews where the K1C was a very bad out of box experience; creality still has QC issues. Prusa I agree are great printers, but they do take hours to assemble (8 according to prusa for the Mk IV), and the Mk IV is $1100usd, compared to the $600 for a bambu P1P, or even $399 for an A1 once that comes back in stock. So IMHO, they just don't hold the value they used to. In addition, a woodworker on youtube who has 30 something printers (mostly prusa and bambu) recently did a print farm comparison video and the bambu printers had less issues over a two month period. He paid for his printers btw too, so his opinion wasn't skewed. Shop Nation, check it out.
Like I said, these days I want to spend time 3d modeling and printing, not tuning a printer and messing with settings.
I wonder if the desire to use open source firmware (Kevin's Klipper3d, Marlin, etc) will go away if the printer just works. If you're not into the hobby of the printer itself (ala reprap), and just need the prints, then it won't matter. Similar to drone software, if DJI has everything you need, you won't want to load Ardupilot/Pixhawk (PX4), etc.
It wasn't their first corexy pinter, they had the ender6 and ender7
You forgot the Ender 4 (as has Creality)
A good review, thanks!
Just a nitpick, at 0:53 you say that the K1 was the first CoreXY Creality printer. It was actually the Ender 6.
Am I the only one who wonder about the buildplate issues in 3D printing. Because still after several years of printing on the first bed of my sidewinder x1, i never had a problem with to less or to high first layer adhesion. Or am I just lucky with this particular build plate? The only thing i have to take care is the right temperature of the bed. So far i printed pla, pla+, petg and tpu. I also printed a few parts from abs successfully but I would not recommend this because this hotend is not built for it but the build plate did just fine. So the question is why we don't see this kind of build plate everywhere?
Hi can you give some update review for the k1c, looking forward to it. planning to buy a new 3d printer as a beginner hobbyist between p1s and k1c.
I am also beginner and confused between p1s and k1c. Have you decided one of them?