It's also reminded them of Original JoyBoy Nika too, the Flame and that Pipe he hold, it's similar like their Arch-Enemy and his spear like weapon. It's angered them. Also reminded them of Ace son of Roger they ordered the execution to.
This is what I think it was. It had nothing to do with Sabo or the DF. It's the fact that for the first time in 800 years someone dared to strike at him.
it could be a king type of deal he hated when zoro sliced off his mask and reviled his true identity so imu showed himself to corbra on purpose because he wanted him to see because hes gonna die but now someone else seen his image without his permission so he would be piss about his image being reviled and spared like wild fire which is what happened
The story of Lili and Joyboy becoming allies might end up mirroring Alabasta: ViVi was introduced as an antagonist but eventually changed sides to Luffy's crew, the details might be different but the main point is that a Nefertari changes sides and becomes nakama to the person who saved/helped them(Luffy inviting ViVi to join the crew could mirror how people would receive the D initial which is hinted at in the flashback when Ace gives it to Sabo, Joyboy gives that initial to his nakama regardless of blood or race)
Doflamingo was a Celestial Dragon and he knew the secret of the National Treasure of Mariejois. So yeah, I think it's obvious he knew Imu exists as that's why he wanted the Ope Ope Fruit so he could swap bodies with Imu and take over the world or destroy it from there.
@Katakuri Fan True. But if he switched bodies with Imu, he would become immortal plus become King of the World as he told Law he could have taken the world had he gotten his hands on the Ope Ope Fruit.
@@BlackangelKatakuri Dofy specifically said that if only he had both the ability to become immortal AND the personality swap ability of the OPOP fruit on "that day". he Might have also planned to make himself immortal and swap some1 else into IMUs body with personality swap, a person he can control from .. behind-behind the scenes i guess ?
Imagining Luffy picking his nose with his pinky in the throne room, asking Imu if they poop. The camera zooms out as everyone is frozen in place by the sheer audacity and stupidity of this question. The gorosei and Imu stand there with blank expressions on their faces. Even the straw hats standing behind Luffy are at a total loss for words. The tension is simultaneously sky high and dead in the water. Nami shrivels up and dies of cringe.
I'm glad you brought up Sabo taking damage. I noticed Sabo's pain when I read the chapter and was surprised all the chapter reviews had nothing to say about it. Sabo is pretty strong, so doing damage to him in a single attack means something.
The tail stabbed through Cobra which then went through Sabo as well. Of course Sabo is not gonna transform into his element while he's carrying another dude on his back.
@@Tyler_Frenzynot really, tough cobra couldnt dodge, sabo could. If he was capable, but he isnt. The point oda made is that imu has some devilish ability judging by the tail and can damage a guy who van pretty well be compared to a yonkou. Sabo right now can stomp any commander
@@kollen5952 I see wym, but at the same time none of them sensed sabo was there at the first place. Imo the chapter was too chaotic to definitively say something
i have a problem with the "Imu is Mother Ocean" theory, and that is Boa's backstory. It is said there that the Tenryuubito fed Devil Fruits to slaves just for the fun of it, but considering that this all happened in Mariejois, and i doubt that any Tebryuubito would ever care about doing anything in secret, then would said Mother Ocean really allow people to mess around with the thing she hates the most, in such a stupid and useless way, and on her own backyard no less?
True and even if someone has the power to control the sea why that person will fear the ancestral weapons when you literally can obliterated your enemies moving the ocean to your command
I believe (and its greatly hinted) that Imu represents the devil in some capacity. I believe that HE may be the devil who incarnated himself in the "devilfruits". We're also told that Mother Ocean hates the devil, his devilfruits, and anyone who eats them, thus punishing them by causing them to be powerless in water. So wouldn't it make sense that Imu is the devil, as his name "imu" is literally umi in reverse, he's literally the opposite of Mother Ocean, a figure of benevolence, and he's a figure of malevolence. It also makes sense that Imu is the "devil", as he lives at the top of the red line, as far away from the ocean as you can be.
@@jabby4201If you really wanna propose that the ocean is "benevolent" ... You're either disingenuous or just stupid. The ocean isn't out here to help and support you.
*Vulture related comment:* Growing up in/around Seattle I learned a lot about Native American history and folklore. One of my favorite stories is how the sun once fell out of the sky, and a lot of animals look the way they do now because they all took turns carrying the sun for a time till it got back. Like the ancestor of all foxes having black gums because he held it too long in his mouth. Vulture, in this story, once had a beautiful mane of feathers, but resting the sun on his head as he brought it back to it's place caused them to all burn away. Now all cultures are bald. I really recommend looking it up
Thinking about the whole Imu's monster form and how that tail attack looks and how angry he got when Sabo started throwing around fire, what if rather than being the avatar of Mother Ocean and hating the existence of devil fruits, Imu is the devil that created the fruits. What if it wasn't anger at the use of a devil fruit in general but the fact that Sabo was using one of Imu's own fruits against him?
this is a copy from a different reply but: I believe (and its greatly hinted) that Imu represents the devil in some capacity. I believe that HE may be the devil who incarnated himself in the "devilfruits". We're also told that Mother Ocean hates the devil, his devilfruits, and anyone who eats them, thus punishing them by causing them to be powerless in water. So wouldn't it make sense that Imu is the devil, as his name "imu" is literally umi in reverse, he's literally the opposite of Mother Ocean, a figure of benevolence, and he's a figure of malevolence. It also makes sense that Imu is the "devil", as he lives at the top of the red line, as far away from the ocean as you can be.
Wouldn't be surprising his Im/Imu had a Void Void fruit or something. But they may have a power that's outside the normal power systems that OP normally has. (I.E. Devil Fruits, Haki, etc.)
I definitely like the idea of imu being 100% against devil fruits and that being linked to the fruits being affected by water. The dreams of the people and the all powerful smothering darkness of imu opposing that its got some good themes to it
It makes sense thematically but I'm getting tired of all these "powerful haki, no devil fruit needed" characters, I just want to see magic pirates fight each other with wacky powers
I think that Im-sama got so angry beacouse Sabo wasn't supposed to be there. Also Imu probably got angry bcs Sabo saw them and Imu stayed a little to process what happened. I want to mention the fact that when the Gorosei transformed into their shadow forms they didn't seem very happy about that ,like those from Impel Down. Maybe the Gorosei awakened their devil fruits like those from Impel Down and Imu can transform them when he/she wants to.
It's also reminded them of Original JoyBoy Nika too, the Flame and that Pipe he hold, it's similar like their Arch-Enemy and his spear like weapon. It's angered them. Also reminded them of Ace son of Roger they ordered the execution to.
Idk about them having devil fruits, I would be pretty disappointed if it turned out the literal rulers of the world being regular humans like the blue sea people if that was the case, Litterally the strongest people in one piece can defeat the WG easily lol
@@KatieHuni Yeah....about that. If the Devil Fruits are what some people are theorizing, it isn't like regular humans. In fact, its kind of utter madness if it turns out to be true. That they all have godly Mythical Zoans. It would mean that Kaido was effectively trying to climb the tower they were already standing at the top of. He wanted Yamato to be the god of Wano, when they're already the gods of the Red Line.
I love the idea of Imu having like an Ink Ink fruit, and literally being able to manipulate what's written down. Wiping an island off the map. Rewriting the elder star's physical forms. Wiping out a century of written history. What if that's why the history had to be written in poneglyph? That's why it was able to survive.
My understanding: Being a D doesn't mean much today, but back 800 years ago, being a D meant you were an active enemy/combatant against god/Imu. What Lili did with the ponyglyphs was worst case scenario for Imu and they have been spending 800 years thinking it was a "mistake" and an isolated event - Lili was a founding member of the World Government after all. With this Chapter, we witness Imu realizing that not only were the ponyglyphs part of a larger plan directly targeting Imu, but one of the founding members of their power base was a spy and a traitor. This just elevated what was already a "worst case scenario" to something far worse.
A hito hito model ‘Devil’ would be able to make deals… This “blunder” made by lili could have been a bad deal and ultimately gave hope back to the world
@@YouareAToy582 a lot of people would disagree with that just because u dislike doesn't mean everyone else should just stop watching or reading one piece Opinions differ from people to people but u should not force them onto others
@@YouareAToy582 again that's an opinion If u dislike it that much why r u here on video that is about one piece I mean ur acting like the idiots on Twitter
Perhaps Imu has the true Dark-dark fruit and BB has the artificial or downgraded version. If these aren’t silhouettes, it looks like Imu is controlling/shaping darkness like a normal logia would
Imu parallels that I don’t see people talking about and I really would like to hear others’ thoughts on: Oda often uses previous arcs to parallel or invert especially post vs pre time skip So let’s look at 1085, Imu and Blackbeard In 1085, a powerful darkness is confronted by fire aka light. Imu and the elders vs Sabo - referencing Banaro and Blackbeard vs Ace (who even used flame emperor as a move). Who will win, the dark or the sun/light. Chapters 440-441 In 1085, a sick man enters a conflict he knows will likely be his last, speaks of a major taboo, and dies standing after a final blow from a powerful darkness. Cobra, referencing Whitebeards final moments in the Paramount War 1085 also gives us another example of a betrayal - Lily’s betrayal of Imu and/or the 20 kingdoms. I’ve been looking at how this parallels Alabasta (Cobra made to look like a traitor to his people bc of Crocodile’s schemes), Dressrosa (king riku and doffy’s manipulation), and even Wano (the kozuki’s fall from the shogunate at the hands of Orochi and co) There’s also potential parallels between figures like Vivi/Ms. Wednesday, Viola and Hiyori in those arcs connecting to Lily (undercover agents/turncoats within evil organizations). Plus something about how the wording around D being husks of what they once were or unaware of their truth smacks of what Sugar did to the toys… what if the void in history is owing to the fact that the ancient kingdom was destroyed when the D clan were made to somehow forget themselves? (Hiriluk’s quote about true death being when a man is forgotten comes to mind…) Apologies for the super long comment but recent chapters have been too good not to talk about and there’s been so much good coverage but I haven’t seen these threads picked up on!!
Ever since I saw IM’s eyes I immediately thought of Judge Doom from “Who Framed Roger Rabit?”, and Luffy’s gear 5 form just makes me wanna double down on that thought.
With Imu referring to themself as just Mu, it makes me wonder if the I is an honorific prefix of some sort that the Gorosei are using when they refer to them, kinda like O-Lin and O-tama.
My thought after seeing Imu’s appearances and understanding the way they speak from Artur is that Imu is going to turn out to be a Little girl. An ancient little girl with immense power, think Ophis from High school DxD
I think that imu could have some type of void void fruit allowing him/her to open voids and become voids(sort of like black holes but literal nothingness) and can swallow things up kind of like a pocket dimension it would make sense how they were able to swallow up sabos fire attack so easily since a void is nothingness the fire was turned into nothingness. It would in theory be the better version of Blackbeard’s fruit. Also I think the awakening for this devil fruit would be that your body can become a void Rather than you just creating them.
Man I love how even after years tekking wont ask u to subscribe or like but will promote others channels cause he loved them as a fan himself. Always classy.
Maybe lili scattered the poneglyphs with the paw paw fruit, the fact that the paw paw fruit can make bubbles of peoples memories has me convinced that someone from the void century had the fruit and the strawhats are gonna find the memories of someone from that era and i think lili is the perfect candidate since she also has something to do eith getting the poneglyphs into the world
Bro this channel is gas, its the only youtube channel I have notifications on for. And I still check it daily to see if he uploads, I cannot express how much I enjoy your content.
The real question is whether or not Sabo has a "Smother Mate" attack prepared or if he thought of it on the spot. I'm really not sure which is more impressive. He had no way of knowing there was a singular ruler of the world that would be sitting on the empty throne while surrounded by allies, but he also was probably on quite a bit of shock right before he attacked for similar reasons. So is Sabo just Batman levels of preparedness, or can Sabo just think of his feet so well that he could outwit the smartest man in the world, Kinemon?
smothered mate is a really clever attack name but the attack its self basically just looked like a fire fist idk, i think he thought of the name on the spot
I do like the idea that Imu is or fused with a god of some kind. I have had a similar thought in the past, thinking that Imu was fused will the voice of world. I still think it has just as much chance as them seperating/wishing to seperate themselves from fate and the world itself. Either way, Imu is definitely a mortal given the lengths they go to show dominace and that they seperate/above all others. A true God wouldn't have a need of such reassurance, espically in private. Also, as you have stated Imu seems to have become complacent in their rule and blinded to much of what is going on around them. This is a big running theme, espically pre-time skip Villians, they all believe they are unstoppable.
You talking about the gorosei being parts or at least somewhat related to Im has got me thinking about 2 things: 1. Isnt it possible that his full name would be Dracule Im, and that Mihawk is a very far off decendant, which is why Oda wasnt keen on revealing his name yet. Or 2. What if all the Gorosei and Im are of the Garcia family, where Im's existance is basically a secret passed through the Garcia lineage. I still think its odd for both Mihawk and Im being the only 2 people with those pupils. It either has to be something passed on genetically, or it has to indicate complete mastery of something like haki
Maybe Imu is quite literally a celestial dragon. His tail like arrow attack and ability to seemingly eat fire plusnit ties back to the celestial dragon title.
@@declanoconnor3445 Honestly I think he has a devil fruit rather than some weird ass ability like Tekking thinks. If Imu quite literally is that dude from 800 years ago who probably got the eternal youth surgery done on him or something, maybe he's some genetically modified human since Seraphim tech and tech overall was more advance back then
@@MilkyGlint I think he is that guy too, but as for his power source idk. He could have been the creator of the dark dark fruit maybe so maybe he has those powers, but then he would have to have died at some point if blackboard ate the fruit
Can't wait to get the update video in a whole long week Jokes aside. The world government as well as imu will probably get the most update videos with how much we are learning with Seraphims and such.
That's Amazing XD! Mugiwara no Goofy is NO JOKE, the FIRST UA-cam channel I've seen from the recent wave of small one video channel suggestions that I actually love. I was wondering how long it would be until anyone in the established OP reviewing community took notice, of course Tekking is the first I've seen mention him lol. I was so sad when I checked the account and saw only one video, but he's been so consistent and on point with every upload. Tekking gets it. LMAO I remember when TEKKING only had a handful out. They are both on that same "underrated real ones" energy.
Hey Tekking, I know you play DnD. Have you looked into the Curse of Straud campaign? I'm currently running a CoS game, and without spoiling it, there are some similaities between how Im reacts and talks about Lily and Vivi, and the obsession Straud has with Irena Kolyana throughout the campaign. If you know, you know.
See Ive just had this weird feeling like Imu was just the last in line to plunge the sword and after all others had vowed to never sit on the throne, Imu just walked up and sat down and plunged their sword saying "Thank you, I pledge myself to sitting upon this throne." and then everyone else just kinda went "shit..."
Imu absorbed the people who laid their sword down and added their lives to his lifespan hence how he is alive. His power can absorb people into a “void” that allows him to steal life spans. Lili refused and did what she did and this is why imu refers to itself in the third person bc he his technically more than one person. Boom.
We know Shanks can use Conqueror’s Haki to nullify Observation Haki. This got me thinking that maybe Imu is capable of using Conqueror’s Haki to nullify all other types of Haki, essentially leaving their enemies defenseless.
That begs the question of how imu managed to stay alive for 800+ years and maintain his haki? That wouldn't make any sense if it was conquerors, I honestly like the idea of them not being regular human and have greater powers than them just having haki and devil fruits because that would ruin the idea of them being super strong beings that ruled the world for 800+ years by using haki and devil fruits when the blue sea people has those, I really bet it's a greater power than that, We can't compare the rulers of the world with basic powers that anybody can obtain
@@KatieHuni I can’t see that happening because Oda hasn’t set up anything like that. I believe that Imu and the Gorosei* have the highest tier of Devil Fruits as well as the most advanced Haki. At most Imu could be connected to the sea, but I think their power is going to be something like “the original Devil Fruit, the mythical Devil-Devil Fruit, model Sea Devil” or a Water Logia. What drives this home for me is the fact that Imu and the Celestial Dragons sit atop the Red Line, which is as far from the Ocean as they can physically get while remaining on the ground. If Imu really was an embodiment of the Ocean as a lot are speculating, I feel they would want to be closer to the sea. However, if Imu has the most devilish of Devil Fruits, then it makes sense that they would want to be separated as much as possible from the ocean hence why Marie Joise* is on top of the Red Line. As far as the 800+ years goes, I believe that’s why the Op-Op Fruit’s Immortal Life Surgery was introduced into the story. We’ve seen the loyalty and dedication the Gorosei have for Imu, so it’s incredibly likely Imu was able to manipulate or control a previous user to have the surgery done.
My heart hurts I got so excited to see thus video today cuz the other day in the live stream I asked tekking to look into shuimu and I so thought he would mention it 😢😢
What if "D" stands for devil? That would prove Imu's stance against devil fruits even more. Furthermore, if the devil fruits were created from desires, what if that desire that created the devil fruits was "The Will of D", the will of devils or in other words their desire for freedom? Also remember how previous DF user's experiences are recorded into the devil fruits, wouldn't that kind of be something like a last will, something like: "The last will of the devil that is carried to the next generation of DF users is freedom"? Though only members of the "D" or devil family could properly inherit that desire/will. So the devil fruits are quite literally the fruits of the devil's imagination.
I still expect Imus transformed form to be a dragon, I mean, they are, as far as we can tell, a TenRYUbito after all, a "sky-dragon person" to go with a more literal approach, and the general shape as well as being able to just eat fire could certainly check out there.
Reading the chapter and seeing all the amorphous black silhouettes and the arrow really reminded me of the Yami Yami no me. Going along with the whole desires create devil fruit concept, what if the Yami Yami no me was the result of someone desiring power like imu's? So much so that a Devil fruit was born from it. Makes you wonder why rocks and Blackbeard have the fruit in the first place. What desires brought the Yami Yami no to them? Can't wait for oda to give some context to all this.
It makes me think of some liquid logia : the fact imu straight up ate the fire attack, the drop falling from the arrow before striking cobra, and the round or, well, liquid aspect of imu right after. (And sabo gets pierced right through despite him being kinda op) With the whole mother nature who hates devil fruit users thing and of course the dark visuals, I'd say the abyss fruit. Total darkness and water combined. That fits the final boss to me. And more importantly it's cool. With a cool name.
And it's basically the only way to have a coherent and cooler power than bb who has the freaking darkness fruit. Kind of a superior version he didn't know existed simply because nobody knows of it. And as blackbeard is a black hole which absorbs everything but especially light around it to grow bigger, imu would be more like the moon (or the abyss), it's dark until the sun shines on it, then it's beautiful :)
@@YouareAToy582 yep just a blind fanboy I see. Not worth bothering reading these comments. I was expecting a bot not someone who is just wasting time trying a flame war. Goodbye
Hey tekking. Look up Rajin and Fujin on google, all of them have a cloth on the back similar to the one 5 elder. I think the gorosi fruits may be mythical zoans of Japanese gods like susano, Hachiman, Rajin, Fujin. Similar to how sengoku has the Buddha fruit that is similar to a golden Buddha statue because that's how Buddha is remembered, the Jap mytho fruits will look like how those gods were remembered and drawn.
THEORY: Imu ate the Yami-Yami/Dark-Dark fruit and BlackBeard didnt. With all of the “shadow” and “silhouette” usage in every one of Imu’s panels could notion to his fruit being a form of “Darkness.” We also know that Blackbeard is a parallel to Luffy who’s fruit was shown to be a Zoan and not a Paramecia. We know that Blackbeard’s “Logia” does not make him intangible, so in theory if Blackbeard didn’t eat the Yami-Yami/Dark-Dark fruit is it plausible that Imu did? there’s a lot more to my theory than i typed out, i just didn’t want to spam the comments too much.
This is my crazy theory for what Imu is. Maybe they are the original Nika. Either called that directly or the bases for what the Lunarians made their god. Just given the fact that it seems Imu has the ability to shape shift and make what they want real, (possibly how the Gorosei turned into those beast) it could be a big parallel to how the Nika fruit works. Also the fact that Imu is always in silhouette could be in universe them using there power. Similar to how Luffy becomes all white. It would either be the Lunarians either worshiped Imu first and then Imu turned evil for one reason or another or was tricking them. Or it could have been Nika was the savior for the Lunarians as someone who could oppose Imu. This could also explain why the world gov't wants the fruit under it's control. Imu specifically doesn't want someone to gain their powers and have a chance to stand against them.
I'm so excited to figure out more of the 20 kingdom family names and all the prominent characters who's last names we don't yet. Like Nami, Usopp, Sabo, Brook, Buggy, Koby Jinbe, Tashigi, Smoker, Crocodile, etc. I hope Oda draws a giant family tree at the End
Why didnt the Nefertari family pass down the D like every family did? Cobra didnt know he was a D so that means his parents didnt pass it down to him. Saul said his parents passed it to him and they didnt even know what it was, So why didnt the Nefartari do it? That makes me think The D isnt even a name that has always existed but a title given to some people; so that means a person with D in their name could be the unique one of his family where his siblings dont have the D too.
For safety. They would have more knowledge of its significance than some others and the danger it would pose. If their descendants have no knowledge they belonged to the D clan then they were in less danger. To deceive you enemies you must first deceive your allies.
If Imu is really the God of Mother nature (which I kinda believe too) maybe the gorosei powers are inspired by the 5 vertebrates classes, which dominate the modern world (mammals, fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds). I mean we clearly see a bird, the humanlike could be the mammal and maybe the bullfrog as tekking once mentioned for the Gorbatschow is the amphibian. The other two idk maybe the big mouth one is fish and the oni (saturn) could be a reptile maybe.
The fact that sabo experienced intense pain might be linked to the fact that blackbeard has the dark dark fruit and THAT is a property of it too, immense pain, more than normal
Maybe the Gorosei once were independent beings but then Im "ate" them and then turned them through that into beings like him. Part of becoming an Elder Star is being subsumed by the ruler.
What if the D. somehow makes Imu's attacks not hurt as much. Cobra was able to speak after the attack and even stand up but Sabo looked absolutely terrified by it. You know the whole D is the natural enemy of the gods thing.
My thoughts on Imu is that they, like Luffy, are the incarnation of one of the four gods we’ve learned about. Luffy being the Sun God, Dragon may be in some way connected to the Rain/Storm God, and that leaves Imu to be either the Forest or Land god.
from the way i see it, as long as sabo gets to the door of the throne room by the time the go rodeo/im catch up, they aren’t really gonna chase after him and reveal their forms to the world yk
On that like comical devil suggestion for Imu I do actually remember hearing a theory about that I believe by “the hidden island” but it was a theory proposing that perhaps the sun god Nika character never actually existed but in fact he was a comic book character from loooooong ago and after centuries of oppression n shit this happy go lucky comic about leaving the world smiling transformed into this liberating sun god and perhaps Imu is just then the goofy devil bad guy from the comic. And the only reason these beings exist now is because of human desires. While many desired nika to be real many would also cheer for the opposite side as shown with the sora comic and germa 66
Planet was ruled by the Sea God who controlled the sea while the humans controlled the land (Pangea Continent). At some point Joy Boy took control over both groups and planned to bring them together.
mugiwara no goofy is awesome, happy to see you shout him out
nobody dies in one piece hunter x hunter is better
@@YouareAToy582 what the fuck
@@YouareAToy582 Bro someone literally just died this chapter. I know you're a troll but come on find a better criticism.
@@Mordexis that was not even a important character lol wano arc was safe af nobody died facing a Yonko
@@hectorandrade8729 same thing I say about every one piece chapter trash
Tekking is a beast
He made a 40 minute video on a silhouette who’s literally in like 10 panels
I cannot stress enough how much I want that Tekko-Con is just an entire Tekking-Convention
this was my first thought lol. i was like "wow tekking got his own convention??"
And people should cosplay tekking cosplaying anime characters
It's not just that Imu was attacked - it was probably the first time in 800 years that someone dared raise his hand at him.
It's also reminded them of Original JoyBoy Nika too, the Flame and that Pipe he hold, it's similar like their Arch-Enemy and his spear like weapon. It's angered them. Also reminded them of Ace son of Roger they ordered the execution to.
This is what I think it was. It had nothing to do with Sabo or the DF. It's the fact that for the first time in 800 years someone dared to strike at him.
Imu's sitting there as the WG is in shambles thanks to pirates: "Not this shit again"
it could be a king type of deal he hated when zoro sliced off his mask and reviled his true identity so imu showed himself to corbra on purpose because he wanted him to see because hes gonna die but now someone else seen his image without his permission so he would be piss about his image being reviled and spared like wild fire which is what happened
The fact that someone was even able to, revolutionary or not has to be setting them off more than anything.
The story of Lili and Joyboy becoming allies might end up mirroring Alabasta: ViVi was introduced as an antagonist but eventually changed sides to Luffy's crew, the details might be different but the main point is that a Nefertari changes sides and becomes nakama to the person who saved/helped them(Luffy inviting ViVi to join the crew could mirror how people would receive the D initial which is hinted at in the flashback when Ace gives it to Sabo, Joyboy gives that initial to his nakama regardless of blood or race)
love this theory
Imu is just a chair which ate the ruler fruit
hunter x hunter is better than One Piece nobody dies in One Piece
Wow this is the answer
I don't think anyone has really considered the possibility of a Ruler Ruler fruit before this comment.
@@YouareAToy582 king Cobra did Odin and doctor hiriluk too
This is the dumbest but yet funniest interpretation possible.
I think Doflamingo's speech in impel down might directly relate to the current few chapters
Doflamingo was a Celestial Dragon and he knew the secret of the National Treasure of Mariejois. So yeah, I think it's obvious he knew Imu exists as that's why he wanted the Ope Ope Fruit so he could swap bodies with Imu and take over the world or destroy it from there.
well yeah lol the battle for the throne
@@retrogamermax8287 He wanted it so he could become immortal m
@Katakuri Fan True. But if he switched bodies with Imu, he would become immortal plus become King of the World as he told Law he could have taken the world had he gotten his hands on the Ope Ope Fruit.
@@BlackangelKatakuri Dofy specifically said that if only he had both the ability to become immortal AND the personality swap ability of the OPOP fruit on "that day". he Might have also planned to make himself immortal and swap some1 else into IMUs body with personality swap, a person he can control from .. behind-behind the scenes i guess ?
Imagining Luffy picking his nose with his pinky in the throne room, asking Imu if they poop. The camera zooms out as everyone is frozen in place by the sheer audacity and stupidity of this question. The gorosei and Imu stand there with blank expressions on their faces. Even the straw hats standing behind Luffy are at a total loss for words. The tension is simultaneously sky high and dead in the water.
Nami shrivels up and dies of cringe.
IM Sama: 'Yes. Mu poops' (Everyone including the Gorosei - Facefault)
Seeing how Imu reacted to the mention of D in front of him, I'm sure when he meets G5 Luffy, he/she going to snap.
I'm glad you brought up Sabo taking damage. I noticed Sabo's pain when I read the chapter and was surprised all the chapter reviews had nothing to say about it. Sabo is pretty strong, so doing damage to him in a single attack means something.
The tail stabbed through Cobra which then went through Sabo as well. Of course Sabo is not gonna transform into his element while he's carrying another dude on his back.
@@Tyler_Frenzynot really, tough cobra couldnt dodge, sabo could. If he was capable, but he isnt. The point oda made is that imu has some devilish ability judging by the tail and can damage a guy who van pretty well be compared to a yonkou. Sabo right now can stomp any commander
@@Tyler_Frenzy Um mate it happens automatically.
@@kollen5952 I see wym, but at the same time none of them sensed sabo was there at the first place. Imo the chapter was too chaotic to definitively say something
@@kollen5952 It definitely confirms that Imu isn't just a person who sits in a throne. This individual can and will fight if need be.
i have a problem with the "Imu is Mother Ocean" theory, and that is Boa's backstory. It is said there that the Tenryuubito fed Devil Fruits to slaves just for the fun of it, but considering that this all happened in Mariejois, and i doubt that any Tebryuubito would ever care about doing anything in secret, then would said Mother Ocean really allow people to mess around with the thing she hates the most, in such a stupid and useless way, and on her own backyard no less?
True and even if someone has the power to control the sea why that person will fear the ancestral weapons when you literally can obliterated your enemies moving the ocean to your command
I believe (and its greatly hinted) that Imu represents the devil
in some capacity. I believe that HE may be the devil who incarnated himself in the "devilfruits". We're also told that Mother Ocean hates the devil, his devilfruits, and anyone who eats them, thus punishing them by causing them to be powerless in water. So wouldn't it make sense that Imu is the devil, as his name "imu" is literally umi in reverse, he's literally the opposite of Mother Ocean, a figure of benevolence, and he's a figure of malevolence. It also makes sense that Imu is the "devil", as he lives at the top of the red line, as far away from the ocean as you can be.
@@jabby4201If you really wanna propose that the ocean is "benevolent" ... You're either disingenuous or just stupid. The ocean isn't out here to help and support you.
*Vulture related comment:* Growing up in/around Seattle I learned a lot about Native American history and folklore. One of my favorite stories is how the sun once fell out of the sky, and a lot of animals look the way they do now because they all took turns carrying the sun for a time till it got back. Like the ancestor of all foxes having black gums because he held it too long in his mouth. Vulture, in this story, once had a beautiful mane of feathers, but resting the sun on his head as he brought it back to it's place caused them to all burn away. Now all cultures are bald. I really recommend looking it up
Thinking about the whole Imu's monster form and how that tail attack looks and how angry he got when Sabo started throwing around fire, what if rather than being the avatar of Mother Ocean and hating the existence of devil fruits, Imu is the devil that created the fruits. What if it wasn't anger at the use of a devil fruit in general but the fact that Sabo was using one of Imu's own fruits against him?
this is a copy from a different reply but: I believe (and its greatly hinted) that Imu represents the devil in some capacity. I believe that HE may be the devil who incarnated himself in the "devilfruits". We're also told that Mother Ocean hates the devil, his devilfruits, and anyone who eats them, thus punishing them by causing them to be powerless in water. So wouldn't it make sense that Imu is the devil, as his name "imu" is literally umi in reverse, he's literally the opposite of Mother Ocean, a figure of benevolence, and he's a figure of malevolence. It also makes sense that Imu is the "devil", as he lives at the top of the red line, as far away from the ocean as you can be.
Feeling like Imu could be bound to mariejoise in a similar fashion like how davy jones is bound to the sea
That would make sense. All that power and he never leaves his house?
@@codafettImu might just be pretty introvertic
Imu is basically jack sparrow but evil
Wouldn't be surprising his Im/Imu had a Void Void fruit or something. But they may have a power that's outside the normal power systems that OP normally has. (I.E. Devil Fruits, Haki, etc.)
Fitting their constant serious emotionless creepy character Lovecraftian Cosmic Horror like Vibe....
I definitely like the idea of imu being 100% against devil fruits and that being linked to the fruits being affected by water. The dreams of the people and the all powerful smothering darkness of imu opposing that its got some good themes to it
The possibiliy of a Sea God being some king 800 years ago is so fascinating
Had this same thought a long time ago and it'd be amazing if this was true.
It makes sense thematically but I'm getting tired of all these "powerful haki, no devil fruit needed" characters, I just want to see magic pirates fight each other with wacky powers
Yup interesting
Then if it's confirmed that the gorosei has df's wouldn't IM be against them as well?
Bro you’re the most consistent and entertaining one piece UA-camr. Always feeding us some great content every time a new chapter is out.
I think that Im-sama got so angry beacouse Sabo wasn't supposed to be there. Also Imu probably got angry bcs Sabo saw them and Imu stayed a little to process what happened. I want to mention the fact that when the Gorosei transformed into their shadow forms they didn't seem very happy about that ,like those from Impel Down. Maybe the Gorosei awakened their devil fruits like those from Impel Down and Imu can transform them when he/she wants to.
It's also reminded them of Original JoyBoy Nika too, the Flame and that Pipe he hold, it's similar like their Arch-Enemy and his spear like weapon. It's angered them. Also reminded them of Ace son of Roger they ordered the execution to.
Idk about them having devil fruits, I would be pretty disappointed if it turned out the literal rulers of the world being regular humans like the blue sea people if that was the case, Litterally the strongest people in one piece can defeat the WG easily lol
@@KatieHuni Yeah....about that. If the Devil Fruits are what some people are theorizing, it isn't like regular humans. In fact, its kind of utter madness if it turns out to be true. That they all have godly Mythical Zoans.
It would mean that Kaido was effectively trying to climb the tower they were already standing at the top of. He wanted Yamato to be the god of Wano, when they're already the gods of the Red Line.
MNG has put out really good content, he kind of just started and it's crazy to see how fast he's growing.
About to hit a 9 hour shift at my job well before I start I’m glad i can watch this before I start work man I love tekkings work great channel
No one cares, bob
I think the most impressive thing we know about Imu is Australia’s crushing defeat at Imu’s feet in the war between them
I love the idea of Imu having like an Ink Ink fruit, and literally being able to manipulate what's written down. Wiping an island off the map. Rewriting the elder star's physical forms. Wiping out a century of written history. What if that's why the history had to be written in poneglyph? That's why it was able to survive.
Hmmm interesting theory
If this fruit is awakened... IM Sama will have the power to change the very panels of the manga!
That'd be awesome to see
@@omkr0122ngl that against luffys gear 5 would make one piece something else
@@taigaseji We will wait with popcorn and see a replay of Gintama's Character poll arc!
My understanding: Being a D doesn't mean much today, but back 800 years ago, being a D meant you were an active enemy/combatant against god/Imu. What Lili did with the ponyglyphs was worst case scenario for Imu and they have been spending 800 years thinking it was a "mistake" and an isolated event - Lili was a founding member of the World Government after all. With this Chapter, we witness Imu realizing that not only were the ponyglyphs part of a larger plan directly targeting Imu, but one of the founding members of their power base was a spy and a traitor. This just elevated what was already a "worst case scenario" to something far worse.
EVERYTHING Confirmed About Imu:
-Sits on the empty throne
-Has eyes
-Has a mouth
That’s it.
May or May not poop (luffy hasn't asked him yet, still unconfirmed)
-Is of the male gender
-Is pretty fucking strong
Lives in the holy land. Red eyes. Creepy.
Mugiwara no goofy is hilarious, been watching him all week
Oda has managed to make Imu a far more fascinating character than Kaguya ever was .
Kaguya from naruto or? Cause why would you bring that asspull up and compare it to Imu
A hito hito model ‘Devil’ would be able to make deals…
This “blunder” made by lili could have been a bad deal and ultimately gave hope back to the world
Maybe Imu is a dragon, the spear tail and the chomping of the fire fist made it suspect
maybe you should watch hunter x hunter one piece is trash
@@YouareAToy582 your opinion doesn't matter and never will
@@YouareAToy582 a lot of people would disagree with that
just because u dislike doesn't mean everyone else should just stop watching or reading one piece
Opinions differ from people to people but u should not force them onto others
@@Khizar_kt No! its a fact that hunter x hunter is better than one piece
@@YouareAToy582 again that's an opinion
If u dislike it that much why r u here on video that is about one piece
I mean ur acting like the idiots on Twitter
Bruh so glad you shouted out goofy. My ribs have not recovered from laughing so hard 😂
Perhaps Imu has the true Dark-dark fruit and BB has the artificial or downgraded version. If these aren’t silhouettes, it looks like Imu is controlling/shaping darkness like a normal logia would
Be quiet.
Imu parallels that I don’t see people talking about and I really would like to hear others’ thoughts on:
Oda often uses previous arcs to parallel or invert especially post vs pre time skip
So let’s look at 1085, Imu and Blackbeard
In 1085, a powerful darkness is confronted by fire aka light. Imu and the elders vs Sabo - referencing Banaro and Blackbeard vs Ace (who even used flame emperor as a move). Who will win, the dark or the sun/light. Chapters 440-441
In 1085, a sick man enters a conflict he knows will likely be his last, speaks of a major taboo, and dies standing after a final blow from a powerful darkness. Cobra, referencing Whitebeards final moments in the Paramount War
1085 also gives us another example of a betrayal - Lily’s betrayal of Imu and/or the 20 kingdoms. I’ve been looking at how this parallels Alabasta (Cobra made to look like a traitor to his people bc of Crocodile’s schemes), Dressrosa (king riku and doffy’s manipulation), and even Wano (the kozuki’s fall from the shogunate at the hands of Orochi and co)
There’s also potential parallels between figures like Vivi/Ms. Wednesday, Viola and Hiyori in those arcs connecting to Lily (undercover agents/turncoats within evil organizations). Plus something about how the wording around D being husks of what they once were or unaware of their truth smacks of what Sugar did to the toys… what if the void in history is owing to the fact that the ancient kingdom was destroyed when the D clan were made to somehow forget themselves? (Hiriluk’s quote about true death being when a man is forgotten comes to mind…)
Apologies for the super long comment but recent chapters have been too good not to talk about and there’s been so much good coverage but I haven’t seen these threads picked up on!!
Not bad….not bad at all…I like these
@@ivan_d_feets4495 all I can think about since yesterday. Oda is a master!
Ever since I saw IM’s eyes I immediately thought of Judge Doom from “Who Framed Roger Rabit?”, and Luffy’s gear 5 form just makes me wanna double down on that thought.
"Remember me, Luffy? When I killed your brother, I talked! Just! Like! This!!!"
This man Tekking is always giving props to other youtuber what a goat.
With Imu referring to themself as just Mu, it makes me wonder if the I is an honorific prefix of some sort that the Gorosei are using when they refer to them, kinda like O-Lin and O-tama.
My thought after seeing Imu’s appearances and understanding the way they speak from Artur is that Imu is going to turn out to be a Little girl. An ancient little girl with immense power, think Ophis from High school DxD
In terms of how Sabo got hit, the arrow went though Sabo's side and then into Cobra before exiting out the other side. So Sabo got basically skewered.
Imu definitely knows Haki, they wouldn't be able to hurt Sabo otherwise due to him being a Fire Man.
My dawg!!! Preciate the shout out for real!!! 🙏🙏
I feel like people are really underrating sabo, he's strong af and I think hurting him so seemingly easily seems like a pretty impressive feat
I think that imu could have some type of void void fruit allowing him/her to open voids and become voids(sort of like black holes but literal nothingness) and can swallow things up kind of like a pocket dimension it would make sense how they were able to swallow up sabos fire attack so easily since a void is nothingness the fire was turned into nothingness. It would in theory be the better version of Blackbeard’s fruit. Also I think the awakening for this devil fruit would be that your body can become a void Rather than you just creating them.
Kaguya 2.0
@Berd Fly Better Written Version of Kaguya though. They wasn't instantly come out of nowhere in the Finale.
Man I love how even after years tekking wont ask u to subscribe or like but will promote others channels cause he loved them as a fan himself. Always classy.
The real question is whats stronger: The Empty throne or Aizen's Chair-sama?
or one piece plot armor because it is trash watch hunter x hunter
@@YouareAToy582 bait used to be believable, get a job
@@TheSteiner12 im at work right now lol its facts one piece is trash hunter x hunter is better
Maybe lili scattered the poneglyphs with the paw paw fruit, the fact that the paw paw fruit can make bubbles of peoples memories has me convinced that someone from the void century had the fruit and the strawhats are gonna find the memories of someone from that era and i think lili is the perfect candidate since she also has something to do eith getting the poneglyphs into the world
Great channel recommendations
Bro this channel is gas, its the only youtube channel I have notifications on for. And I still check it daily to see if he uploads, I cannot express how much I enjoy your content.
The real question is whether or not Sabo has a "Smother Mate" attack prepared or if he thought of it on the spot. I'm really not sure which is more impressive. He had no way of knowing there was a singular ruler of the world that would be sitting on the empty throne while surrounded by allies, but he also was probably on quite a bit of shock right before he attacked for similar reasons. So is Sabo just Batman levels of preparedness, or can Sabo just think of his feet so well that he could outwit the smartest man in the world, Kinemon?
smothered mate is a really clever attack name but the attack its self basically just looked like a fire fist idk, i think he thought of the name on the spot
The Gorosei and Imu looked like big mom’s incarnations that collect souls.
I do like the idea that Imu is or fused with a god of some kind. I have had a similar thought in the past, thinking that Imu was fused will the voice of world. I still think it has just as much chance as them seperating/wishing to seperate themselves from fate and the world itself. Either way, Imu is definitely a mortal given the lengths they go to show dominace and that they seperate/above all others. A true God wouldn't have a need of such reassurance, espically in private. Also, as you have stated Imu seems to have become complacent in their rule and blinded to much of what is going on around them. This is a big running theme, espically pre-time skip Villians, they all believe they are unstoppable.
You talking about the gorosei being parts or at least somewhat related to Im has got me thinking about 2 things:
1. Isnt it possible that his full name would be Dracule Im, and that Mihawk is a very far off decendant, which is why Oda wasnt keen on revealing his name yet.
Or 2. What if all the Gorosei and Im are of the Garcia family, where Im's existance is basically a secret passed through the Garcia lineage.
I still think its odd for both Mihawk and Im being the only 2 people with those pupils. It either has to be something passed on genetically, or it has to indicate complete mastery of something like haki
Maybe Imu is quite literally a celestial dragon. His tail like arrow attack and ability to seemingly eat fire plusnit ties back to the celestial dragon title.
What if he's a sea devil, like devil fruit? Idfk
@@declanoconnor3445 Honestly I think he has a devil fruit rather than some weird ass ability like Tekking thinks. If Imu quite literally is that dude from 800 years ago who probably got the eternal youth surgery done on him or something, maybe he's some genetically modified human since Seraphim tech and tech overall was more advance back then
@@MilkyGlint I think he is that guy too, but as for his power source idk. He could have been the creator of the dark dark fruit maybe so maybe he has those powers, but then he would have to have died at some point if blackboard ate the fruit
Can't wait to get the update video in a whole long week
Jokes aside. The world government as well as imu will probably get the most update videos with how much we are learning with Seraphims and such.
hunter x hunter is better than one piece nobody dies in one piece too much plot armor
@@YouareAToy582 who asked
@@YouareAToy582 no one cares. Get a life
@@lidric2191 TRIED OF YOU ONE PIECE FAN GAYS
@@YouareAToy582at least one piece doesn’t take 100 years to release a new chapter
That's Amazing XD! Mugiwara no Goofy is NO JOKE, the FIRST UA-cam channel I've seen from the recent wave of small one video channel suggestions that I actually love. I was wondering how long it would be until anyone in the established OP reviewing community took notice, of course Tekking is the first I've seen mention him lol. I was so sad when I checked the account and saw only one video, but he's been so consistent and on point with every upload. Tekking gets it. LMAO I remember when TEKKING only had a handful out. They are both on that same "underrated real ones" energy.
i am so glad you gave mugiwara no goofy a shout out, been loving his vids and one piece from the view of others
You know Imu has not been shown much if tekkings video is less than an hour
Honestly surprised he got as much out of it as he did lol
His videos are usually 20-1hr videos which is still entertaining to watch even when it's not a hour
What if Imu is the monster of the Florian traingle...black blob red eyes
Hey Tekking, I know you play DnD. Have you looked into the Curse of Straud campaign? I'm currently running a CoS game, and without spoiling it, there are some similaities between how Im reacts and talks about Lily and Vivi, and the obsession Straud has with Irena Kolyana throughout the campaign. If you know, you know.
mugiwara no goofy is freaking HILARIOUS! Glad to see you giving him some love!
I dont think the shadow crawling from the ceiling was Imu, that wouldve meant that panel was missing a Gorosei member.
I’m treating these vulture facts as Choujin X SBS trivia 😂
I love Mugiwara no Goofy's videos and I'm just elated that you gave him a shout out like that, his content is amazing
thank you for shouting out Mugiwara no Goofy he has become my favourite channel atm and he deserves that shoutout.
See Ive just had this weird feeling like Imu was just the last in line to plunge the sword and after all others had vowed to never sit on the throne, Imu just walked up and sat down and plunged their sword saying "Thank you, I pledge myself to sitting upon this throne." and then everyone else just kinda went "shit..."
This is funny lol. Very one piece like
Imu absorbed the people who laid their sword down and added their lives to his lifespan hence how he is alive. His power can absorb people into a “void” that allows him to steal life spans. Lili refused and did what she did and this is why imu refers to itself in the third person bc he his technically more than one person. Boom.
scanlations of chapter 1086 are out, and boy is tekking going to have a field day with this one!!!
Thank you for the video! I always enjoy watching your videos!
We know Shanks can use Conqueror’s Haki to nullify Observation Haki. This got me thinking that maybe Imu is capable of using Conqueror’s Haki to nullify all other types of Haki, essentially leaving their enemies defenseless.
That begs the question of how imu managed to stay alive for 800+ years and maintain his haki? That wouldn't make any sense if it was conquerors, I honestly like the idea of them not being regular human and have greater powers than them just having haki and devil fruits because that would ruin the idea of them being super strong beings that ruled the world for 800+ years by using haki and devil fruits when the blue sea people has those, I really bet it's a greater power than that, We can't compare the rulers of the world with basic powers that anybody can obtain
@@KatieHuni I can’t see that happening because Oda hasn’t set up anything like that. I believe that Imu and the Gorosei* have the highest tier of Devil Fruits as well as the most advanced Haki.
At most Imu could be connected to the sea, but I think their power is going to be something like “the original Devil Fruit, the mythical Devil-Devil Fruit, model Sea Devil” or a Water Logia. What drives this home for me is the fact that Imu and the Celestial Dragons sit atop the Red Line, which is as far from the Ocean as they can physically get while remaining on the ground. If Imu really was an embodiment of the Ocean as a lot are speculating, I feel they would want to be closer to the sea. However, if Imu has the most devilish of Devil Fruits, then it makes sense that they would want to be separated as much as possible from the ocean hence why Marie Joise* is on top of the Red Line.
As far as the 800+ years goes, I believe that’s why the Op-Op Fruit’s Immortal Life Surgery was introduced into the story. We’ve seen the loyalty and dedication the Gorosei have for Imu, so it’s incredibly likely Imu was able to manipulate or control a previous user to have the surgery done.
My heart hurts I got so excited to see thus video today cuz the other day in the live stream I asked tekking to look into shuimu and I so thought he would mention it 😢😢
The umi bozu theory is my personal favorite, that would be awesome
Came for imu, stayed for the vulture facts
What if "D" stands for devil? That would prove Imu's stance against devil fruits even more.
Furthermore, if the devil fruits were created from desires, what if that desire that created the devil fruits was "The Will of D", the will of devils or in other words their desire for freedom?
Also remember how previous DF user's experiences are recorded into the devil fruits, wouldn't that kind of be something like a last will, something like: "The last will of the devil that is carried to the next generation of DF users is freedom"? Though only members of the "D" or devil family could properly inherit that desire/will.
So the devil fruits are quite literally the fruits of the devil's imagination.
Instant W vid for the Mugiwara no Goofy shout-out. I just started watching him a week ago myself 💯🔥💯🔥
Damn I got sideswiped by ‘hurts, donut.’ and I can’t stop laughing
I don't think Imu was angry at Sabo, the change in the eye in my opinion is just Imu transforming into whatever that form was.
I still expect Imus transformed form to be a dragon, I mean, they are, as far as we can tell, a TenRYUbito after all, a "sky-dragon person" to go with a more literal approach, and the general shape as well as being able to just eat fire could certainly check out there.
Better to have Imu be from a race of dragons that can assume a humanoid form
I subbed to Mugiwara no goofy about a week ago. He is hilarious. He's channel will grow really fast I'm sure
Reading the chapter and seeing all the amorphous black silhouettes and the arrow really reminded me of the Yami Yami no me. Going along with the whole desires create devil fruit concept, what if the Yami Yami no me was the result of someone desiring power like imu's? So much so that a Devil fruit was born from it.
Makes you wonder why rocks and Blackbeard have the fruit in the first place. What desires brought the Yami Yami no to them?
Can't wait for oda to give some context to all this.
desires create devil fruit concept aka more retarded bs.
Another thought about Im's rage is that Sabo's sudden unexpected appearance represented a loss of control of the situation.
It makes me think of some liquid logia : the fact imu straight up ate the fire attack, the drop falling from the arrow before striking cobra, and the round or, well, liquid aspect of imu right after. (And sabo gets pierced right through despite him being kinda op)
With the whole mother nature who hates devil fruit users thing and of course the dark visuals, I'd say the abyss fruit. Total darkness and water combined. That fits the final boss to me.
And more importantly it's cool. With a cool name.
And it's basically the only way to have a coherent and cooler power than bb who has the freaking darkness fruit. Kind of a superior version he didn't know existed simply because nobody knows of it.
And as blackbeard is a black hole which absorbs everything but especially light around it to grow bigger, imu would be more like the moon (or the abyss), it's dark until the sun shines on it, then it's beautiful :)
Mugiwara no goofy is so fire. Very refreshing to have a new One Piece Tuber in the mix right now!
Mugiwara no goofy is pretty fuckn funny yall! That katakuri video 😂
The latest chapters proof that imu isn't Luffys mom
Imu clearly took over after destroying Australia
hunter x hunter is better than one piece nobody died in wano lol
@@YouareAToy582 clearly you didn't read wano and are probably spamming comments for attention
@@ivanbluecool I did lol the ant arc was danger but Wano is pretty safe luffy should have died or somebody important
@@YouareAToy582 yep just a blind fanboy I see. Not worth bothering reading these comments. I was expecting a bot not someone who is just wasting time trying a flame war. Goodbye
@@ivanbluecool because you know its facts Oda has fallen off trash piece has not been good since pre time skip
Mugiwara no Goofy deserves so much love, thank you for giving him more attention
Probably the coolest thing I've seen someone say is that Lili had the paw paw fruit and that's how she scattered the poneglyphs
Hey tekking. Look up Rajin and Fujin on google, all of them have a cloth on the back similar to the one 5 elder. I think the gorosi fruits may be mythical zoans of Japanese gods like susano, Hachiman, Rajin, Fujin. Similar to how sengoku has the Buddha fruit that is similar to a golden Buddha statue because that's how Buddha is remembered, the Jap mytho fruits will look like how those gods were remembered and drawn.
Maybe the Bird Gorosei is Tengu
THEORY: Imu ate the Yami-Yami/Dark-Dark fruit and BlackBeard didnt. With all of the “shadow” and “silhouette” usage in every one of Imu’s panels could notion to his fruit being a form of “Darkness.” We also know that Blackbeard is a parallel to Luffy who’s fruit was shown to be a Zoan and not a Paramecia. We know that Blackbeard’s “Logia” does not make him intangible, so in theory if Blackbeard didn’t eat the Yami-Yami/Dark-Dark fruit is it plausible that Imu did? there’s a lot more to my theory than i typed out, i just didn’t want to spam the comments too much.
This is my crazy theory for what Imu is. Maybe they are the original Nika. Either called that directly or the bases for what the Lunarians made their god. Just given the fact that it seems Imu has the ability to shape shift and make what they want real, (possibly how the Gorosei turned into those beast) it could be a big parallel to how the Nika fruit works. Also the fact that Imu is always in silhouette could be in universe them using there power. Similar to how Luffy becomes all white. It would either be the Lunarians either worshiped Imu first and then Imu turned evil for one reason or another or was tricking them. Or it could have been Nika was the savior for the Lunarians as someone who could oppose Imu. This could also explain why the world gov't wants the fruit under it's control. Imu specifically doesn't want someone to gain their powers and have a chance to stand against them.
There aren't supposed to be duplicates, but the fruit is likely more similar to Blackbeard's fruit than Luffy's
I'm so excited to figure out more of the 20 kingdom family names and all the prominent characters who's last names we don't yet. Like Nami, Usopp, Sabo, Brook, Buggy, Koby Jinbe, Tashigi, Smoker, Crocodile, etc. I hope Oda draws a giant family tree at the End
Oh yeah been waiting for this vid all morning!
Why didnt the Nefertari family pass down the D like every family did? Cobra didnt know he was a D so that means his parents didnt pass it down to him. Saul said his parents passed it to him and they didnt even know what it was, So why didnt the Nefartari do it? That makes me think The D isnt even a name that has always existed but a title given to some people; so that means a person with D in their name could be the unique one of his family where his siblings dont have the D too.
For safety. They would have more knowledge of its significance than some others and the danger it would pose. If their descendants have no knowledge they belonged to the D clan then they were in less danger.
To deceive you enemies you must first deceive your allies.
because One Piece is filled with plot holes
@@YouareAToy582 rumour has it that those them holes are filled with Blackbeard's Booty
Because he's not originally Nefertari. For Cobra. He's a son-in-law to the Nefertari family, married with Titi Vivi's mother...
If Imu is really the God of Mother nature (which I kinda believe too) maybe the gorosei powers are inspired by the 5 vertebrates classes, which dominate the modern world (mammals, fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds). I mean we clearly see a bird, the humanlike could be the mammal and maybe the bullfrog as tekking once mentioned for the Gorbatschow is the amphibian. The other two idk maybe the big mouth one is fish and the oni (saturn) could be a reptile maybe.
Nice one.
@@kollen5952 thank you!
Love the video and keep up the great work tekking
The fact that sabo experienced intense pain might be linked to the fact that blackbeard has the dark dark fruit and THAT is a property of it too, immense pain, more than normal
Maybe the Gorosei once were independent beings but then Im "ate" them and then turned them through that into beings like him. Part of becoming an Elder Star is being subsumed by the ruler.
Just like how the 'Delightful children down the lane' were made in Kids Next Door by Father who resembles IM Sama to a bit!
And Father Homunculus and his Homunculi
I think the change in imu's eyes when he was attacked was just a part of his transformation which he was doing to be able to eat the attack.
What if the D. somehow makes Imu's attacks not hurt as much. Cobra was able to speak after the attack and even stand up but Sabo looked absolutely terrified by it. You know the whole D is the natural enemy of the gods thing.
My thoughts on Imu is that they, like Luffy, are the incarnation of one of the four gods we’ve learned about. Luffy being the Sun God, Dragon may be in some way connected to the Rain/Storm God, and that leaves Imu to be either the Forest or Land god.
I love how tekking doesn’t comb his hair, just turns on the camera and starts recording
Seriously learned another thing in the next chapter... so your typical perfect timing with these vids strike again.
from the way i see it, as long as sabo gets to the door of the throne room by the time the go rodeo/im catch up, they aren’t really gonna chase after him and reveal their forms to the world yk
On that like comical devil suggestion for Imu I do actually remember hearing a theory about that I believe by “the hidden island” but it was a theory proposing that perhaps the sun god Nika character never actually existed but in fact he was a comic book character from loooooong ago and after centuries of oppression n shit this happy go lucky comic about leaving the world smiling transformed into this liberating sun god and perhaps Imu is just then the goofy devil bad guy from the comic. And the only reason these beings exist now is because of human desires. While many desired nika to be real many would also cheer for the opposite side as shown with the sora comic and germa 66
Planet was ruled by the Sea God who controlled the sea while the humans controlled the land (Pangea Continent). At some point Joy Boy took control over both groups and planned to bring them together.