Justin, in case you read this, God used your ministry and specifically the Clouds Without Water series to open my mind to the truth. This caused me to leave Mars Hill a year before the church shut down. I lost TONS of friends. It was a lonely walk but I had to follow truth once God showed it to me. Please know I'm forever grateful for your work. "For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you." 1 Corinthians 11:19
CESSATIONIST: "When God remained silent for 450 years (from Joshua to Samuel) was God limited or less God?" " CHRISTIAN: How So, God Became... in silence from Joshua to Samuel? (Judges 1.1-2: 1 And it came to pass after the death of Joshua, that the children of Israel asked the LORD, saying, Which of us shall go up first into the Canaanites, to fight against them? 2And the LORD said, Judah shall go up; behold, I have given him the land into his hand; John 2.1,3; 6.8-10, 16, 23; etc. ) I may not know the length of years between Joshua and Samuel, but I do know that "after Joshua died" and before Samuel God spoke several times. Where did you get this statement that God remained silent for 450 years between Joshua and Samuel?
According to the perspective of some cessationists, miraculous gifts ceased immediately at the end of the apostolic era, that is, shortly after the death of the apostle John. These same cessationists often point out that the miraculous gifts were gradually ceasing out. In Acts 19.11, around 53-55 AD, we read about Paul performing extraordinary wonders. Later, in Acts 28.8, approximately between 60-62 AD, we see that he healed Publius' father of dysentery through prayer and the laying on of hands. Subsequently, Paul no longer had the ability to perform miracles to heal diseases, such as those of Epaphrodite (Philippians 2.25-27, around 60-62 AD), Timothy (1 Timothy 5.23, around 62-66 AD), and Trophimus (2 Timothy 4.20, around 67-68 AD). Hebrews 2.3-4 is then used to argue that the writer made clear that signs, wonders, and gifts of the Spirit were things of the past. The absence of references of the continuity of these events at the time of writing this passage demonstrates, from this perspective, that these miraculous gifts had already ceased. 3. Since, according to these cessationists themselves, the miraculous gifts ceased immediately after the death of the Apostle John, this means that the Apostle John was already dead when Hebrews 2.3-4 was written. Not only this, but the Revelation of John should have been written before Hebrews 2.3-4. Meanwhile, these same cessionists insist that Apocalypse is the last book in the Canon of Scriptures. And nothing can be added after him. But if these cessionists are true, then what is the epistle to the Hebrews doing within the canon of scriptures. These same cessationists also say that a book to be recognized as canonical must have been written by an apostle. However, since, according to these cessationists, the apostle John would have already died and the apostle with him, then the writer to the Hebrews could not have been Paul. It has never been so easy to exclude Paul from the debate about the authorship of Aos Hebrews. Can you realize that cessationist theology is a doctrine of demons that systematically subverts the Christian faith? It's too easy to reduce cessationism to absurd. That's because Cessationism is a systematic absurdity. They think they can avoid this nonsense by redefining the terms. The problem is that they don't realize that the cessationist absurd resides in their epistemological and metaphysical axioms and not in secondary propositions. The only way cessationism stops being heretic is to become factual epistemology and metaphysics differently biblical.
According to some cessationists, (1) miraculous gifts are not of the Spirit (Hb 2.4) but OF THE APOSTLES. (2)They are not given by the Spirit for the edification of the church (1Co 12.7), but only by the laying on of the apostles' hands. (3)Not for the main purpose of building up the church, but for the main purpose to authenticate the apostles themselves. I CORINTHIANS 12:7-11 ACCORDING TO THIS CESSATIONISM VERSION: 7But the manifestation of the Apostles is given to every one, for what it is useful. 8For to one is given the word of wisdom through the apostles; and to another through the same apostles the word of science; 9and to another through the Apostles faith; and to another by the Apostles the gifts of healing; 10and to another the working of wonders; and to another prophecy; and to one the gift of discerning spirits; to another the variety of languages; and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11But one and THE SAME APOSTLES operate all these things, distributing individually to each one as he pleases. On the other hand, since miraculous gifts are the exclusive property of the Holy Spirit and not the Apostles, the only way for cessationism to succeed is to postpone the death of the Spirit. This reminds me of that murdering spirit that killed the Son. However you try, you can't kill the Spirit.
@@JustinPetersMin have a listen. Was Derek Prince a false teacher. I think not. If you are wrong in your cessationism, along with John MacArthur and others, you are by definition committing blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. ua-cam.com/video/8RKCF48X3Y0/v-deo.htmlsi=h2cGOH4ITF5jsILC Notice near the end, Derek addresses demons in Christians.
@@anthonyprose4965 There was an apostolic gift of discernment at Pentecost but there is also spiritual discernment that comes from studying the word of God. It has everything to do with discerning what aligns with the bible (right) and what doesnt align with the bible( wrong) as well as discerning what is evil and what is not. We who are born again in Christ who study the word will grow in spiritual maturity, sanctification, and discernment.I have provided you with a few scriptures that back me up but there are more because Gods word explains Gods word. I pray that you study up on this(2Tim2:15) so that you understand what a child of God gains by faithfully applying themselves to Gods word.Blessings Hebrews 5:14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained their senses to distinguish good from evil. Phil 1: 9And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God. Ephesians 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
@@anthonyprose4965 The word for discernment that used means to have judicial disputation. It very much has to do with discerning right from wrong. False doctrine comes from wicked men and evil spirits.
And..... that has what to do with "the works that I do you shall do and greater than these because I go to The Father"... Are you trying to imply salvation and physical miracles are mutually exclusive... are you doing this to justify a lack of the miraculous in your life, the Churches' life, your pastors life...etc...
@@christopherlammons8448 You're gonna do a work greater than an atoning death on the cross and resurrection in the flesh?? Wow man! I can't wait to see that!! Or....maybe that's NOT what that passage means.
Actually friend, there are greater miracles than being transformed in the inner man. There is : healing from sickness, reconstructive miracles, dead-raising, manifesting of food and other needs and more. Jesus DID tell us, (including you, the believer), that greater works than these (Jesus' works) shall you do. But a cessationist would tell you that Jesus has stopped all that. That to me is the preaching of unbelief in what Jesus said. 'My words will never pass away...'
As a cessationist, I can verify my view of the Holy Spirit is quite high. He perfomed a miracle within me. This miracle didn't give me a supernatural vision. It didn’t let me see angels. It didn't give me heat vision. It didn’t let me heal sick people by touching them and repeating nursery rhymes. And it certainly didn't make me wobble around in laughter like a drunken baffoon. But it was a miracle, and that cannot be denied.
My jaw DROPPED when he started describing his ‘vision’ from the ‘Holy Spirit’. I would argue that he himself has some unrepentant sin he has not dealt with in that area, as well as all the lies. Disgusting
My myself lied when I said I had a vision a few times and did it to be more included in the tribe. I made it seem like I had like 30 visions in a year lasting like 1 hour in total. Reality is I had 2 and they all lasted like 10 seconds in total 😂😂😂
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Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing him been mentioned here also Didn't know he has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, i'm in my fifth trade with him and it has been super.
I don't want to put a figure to how much i've made doing that but let's just say it's more than enough to make trading worthwhile. And when i say worthwhile, i mean it.
Thank you for presenting this. I found it helpful. His videos are all over the internet. As someone who experienced abuse as a child, what he supposedly sees and does would be terribly harmful to an abused person. Confronting someone about their abuse without much preparation is unheard of in counseling and dangerous. The way he claims to counsel people is actually harsh and abusive. It takes decades and a lot of work and prayer to deal with the trauma. Casually tossing off questions to the abused person would be humiliating, frightening and sham3ful. People who have been abused take on the guilt and shame of the perpetrator. As far as his marital counseling, tossing out the accusation of infidelity during a joint session would cause terrible harm. I pray that he is lying about how he approaches people because if he is telling the truth he is causing terrible damage to people. Beyond his obvious false claims of visions, he is harming those he claims to help.
I've actually seen a charismatic friend "go there" with a girl I knew... until she was in tears. It's not helpful, it's basically predatory. Hunting for tears to affirm your profound delusion is predatory. Edit: It was a bit creepier than this comment explains though. He was persistent and she was reluctant to talk about it... Like he was getting rocks off making her relive those memories. Idunno man, it was DARK. Anyway... I've listened to Mark a lot and experienced the occasional OOF but yep.... I needed to see this. This is more than OOF.
When I was a "continuationist" (more like a restorationist) I used to think the Holy Spirit's work consisted of making people act crazy and emotional. At that time I was enslaved to every carnal sin that came my way but because I got emotional at church and was in leadership in "Worship", I assumed I was OK. Fast forward to 9 years ago and God called me, a lost sheep, to follow him! Praise God I can tell you the true work of the Holy Spirit has been so much more potent, miraculous and powerful than anything I ever experienced in the NAR/ hyper charismatic movement. The revival of a stone- cold, dead heart into a living heart is far greater than the faux signs and wonders they point to.
I'm a former Catholic, and Catholics believe that miracles can and do happen often (e.g. crying statues of Mary or Jesus, and that sort of thing). They also think relics of saints have powers etc. But they aren't particularly "crazy and emotional" in church. Catholic "continuationism" vs Protestant is an interesting ocmparison.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 that's a very interesting point you make... my parents are still hyper charismatics and when I've brought up the issue of bad theology in the Roman catholic church, my mom countered with "but there are catholics who were filled with the Holy Spirit" referencing the supposed charismatic "outpourings" such as Notre Dame in the 60s. Sadly to most charismatics, that trumps doctrine.
Praise God!! I was also in that same situation before God open my eyes to the Gospel and yes regeneration is beautiful wonderful miracle of God- truly is a new life, 🙌🏼
@@sledawgpilot Isn't that incredible? I remember when my mom first said it to me I almost couldn't believe it...but then I thought back to how I would have felt and because it is believed more surely than gospel truth that it is the "evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit", your critical thinking skills are completely overrun.
Cessationists do not believe that the Holy Spirit is no longer active. We believe that He convicts the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment; He calls and sanctifies His people; He applies Christ's work on the Cross to all who believe; He baptizes Christians into the Body of Christ; He indwells every believer, leading us in truth, sanctification, and service; He continues to give gifts such as mercy, administration, teaching, exhortation, and others.
1Co 12:7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 1Co 12:8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, 1Co 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 1Co 12:10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 1Co 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. So you don't think the HS manifests these gifts mentioned above. That is sad since there is ZERO biblical evidence that these gifts have ceased. Especially utterance of wisdom and knowledge. Unfortunately this is basically blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. There is something Justin Peters and other cessationists do not take into account. Satan and his minions create counterfeit gifts of the spirit. You can not have the counterfeit without the real. For example where the HS manifests tongues so also Satan can manifest tongues
Not sure what you consider a qualitifcation to be a pastor. Pastor Peters is quite qualified. About Pastor Peters: " Justin earned his undergraduate at Mississippi State University (1995) and then a Master of Divinity and Master of Theology (2000, 2002) from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. " @QuietlyContemplating
@@arlynsmith9196 hmmm. I just checked qualifications listed in scripture and nothing you posted was there. lol. Interesting. Are you aware that we have the word of God as our guide and bit your opinions? 1 Tim 3 1 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, 5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God’s church? 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. Seems like you’ve got your faith squarely in the word of man.
One lie about Mark Driscoll makes Justin a slanderous man and is disqualified as a pastor. Justin told many about Mark. And not just Mark. Justin needs to repent of being a liar
Justin thank you for helping guide us to spot false prophets and unbiblical pastors. I’ve been watching your channel for a couple weeks now. Your explanations are practical and easy to digest.
@@williamelliott nope. I personally dislike him. However this is a discussion about gifts of the spirit. Which is a SECONDARY issue. It’s not a gospel issue. Let’s see what God has to say about secondary issues. We don’t even have to guess. His word explains it quite nicely. Roman’s 14. As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master[a] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living. 10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess[b] to God.” 12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. So let’s learn to have grace, as Jesus gives US grace. Surely you’re not foolish enough to believe that you, a sinful wretch have perfect theology on all secondary and tertiary issues. I know I certainly would never claim that. I’m a sinner and a wretch just like you. So I choose to have grace on non gospel issues, as commanded by God. How are you different and special that your theology and interpretation of scripture is flawless?
Thank you mr. Peters for all your hard work! As a couple coming out of the charismatic movement, your videos have greatly blessed us! Keep up the good work
@@JustinPetersMin - JUSTIN PETERS we miss you dear Gospel bro & Kathy 😄 !!!! Hope “y’all “ are doing well.. loved going through the whole One Year Audio Bible [LSB] w/ you guys all of 2023 .. PTL 🙌 ✝️ Still been going to GCC & also to CBC in H.B. [ w/ the blessing of our beloved Ps. JMac … as there are fellowship groups closer etc. ] Been traveling ALOT .. (New Zealand & Australia lately twice for both.. Liberia , El Salvador, Costa Rica .. Central America ..etc. Fly fly fly 😅✈️ ] . We are still receiving quite a bit of feedback re: You & Jim Osman’s videos .. & also you & Costi’s videos as well ..and your one video is nearing 11M .. of which we PTL for the “good work” He did in you with that .. the Lord is so good. // Anyway- lotsa love from above to you & Kathy from your SO4J & GCC bros & sistahs !! 😊💙🙏
The man wrote a book with his wife which is meant to be some kind of perverted handbook with the premise that the Song Of Solomon is basically sexual manual for Christians. That's so evil.
Paul said in the last days that people will not endure sound teaching and will gather teachers who will tickle their ears. This fraudster is one of those false teachers.
it's a grain of sand.. there are thousands of churches worse than that one.. and that church was closed down, don't you see the video clip is like 20 or 30+ years old? That guy doesn't look anything like that anymore lol
This guy is a NUT. Who is going to sit through that?? Are they that blinded?? Why are all those people he has seen not been arrested?? The police should be knocking on his door demanding answers.
No criminal admits guilt just from a question asked. No sinner admits guilt from a "vision" without any proof of the sin. This is the road that leads to false accusations and slander
Maybe he is seeing visions from a spirit, BUT certainly not the Holy Spirit.. my heart aches for anyone sitting under such diabolical teaching. I thank God for you Justin, and other faithful people like you, that have the courage to call out false teachers. 🙏🙏🙏
I had the same thought. He sits with people and says hes going to ask the demons questions that are in them...???? Ummmm and he thinks that the demons are going to tell the truth? ( supposing there were demons) Why didnt he just cast them out ? why sit and chat with them?Its all rediculous .I left the charismatic movement years ago thank God !
He looks at women and sees visions of violence and sexual violence; that is very disturbing. Perhaps he’s possessed by a demon or he is being tormented by one. He never looked at anyone and saw their testimony of salvation and the transformation that they went thru ? Curious 🧐
Wow. What a weirdo. Thank you for exposing this person. You’re right, he isn’t fit for ministry. He’s A narcissist starved for attention, super weird. Grace love and peace to all. I am special prayers prayers for Mark Driscoll
I was in an Acts 29 church in Washington. We used Mark & Grace Driscoll’s book “Teal Marriage”. The anecdote Mark shared about a vision of a church member in sexual sin that he shares in this sermon is in writing in “Real Marriage.” May I say how horrified our study group was to read that??!! Thank the Lord Mark & Grace are gone from the area. 😢
@@hisservants8003 we started attending his church in 2020 and God showed us how mark was currently behaving, and we made quick exit from that community. I praise God for showing what was going on There are so many of his congregation that know how he is, and they actively protect him and shun those trying to tell the truth. It a big operation of intimidation and deceit.
Shocked me to the core. Thanks for coming out and dealing with this. Exposure is necessary for people to realize what the enemy can get up to in a church. Lord let your fire touch this falsehood that so harms us all as biblical truth-seeking Christians.
Justin, I really hope you’re able to read this. I just want you to know what a blessing your ministry has been in my life during my recovery from the severe trauma I’ve experienced during my time spent in the NAR/hyper-charismatic movement. You speak with such gentleness and kindness yet authority that comes from the true Holy Spirit. Thank you for everything you do. I look forward to meeting you someday as my brother in Christ, if not in this life, then in eternity, where I believe your reward will be great.
These false teachers know Cessationists don’t think the Holy Spirit is not active anymore. It’s a thought stopping device they throw out as a sound bite and their followers believe it without investigating. They never argue for the other gifts mentioned in scripture. They ignore the gifts of hospitality or administration. They are the ones who ignore the Holy Spirit’s work and make miraculous gifts into an idol.
Hey Jp, just wanted to say thank you for your unwavering faithfulness to the gospel and to the Church. I really struggle with cervical spinal problems as well as gi. It's really been a pretty depressive last couple of years, with the majority of it being through the pain in my body. Please pray for me and the struggles I have through these issues. Can't imagine what you've been through physically and mentally because of it, but please know it's an encouragement. Thanks again, and praise God. Soli Deo Gloria!
Discernment tells me that Mark Driscoll's "visions" are perverted. The Holy Spirit doesn't work this way and what man of God would ever even want that imagery in his mind. This is so sad and Mr. Driscoll needs to repent.
Please prove for me from scripture that secessionism is not biblical. I think it’s a ploy of the enemy to convince people that certain New Testament gifts are for today and others are not. There is no evidence for this unbiblical doctrine of cessationism.
The problem is the Americanisation of the church. Even in South Africa these churches affect local congregations and cause pastors to partake in the foolishness . The damaging excesses of these mega churches are a blot on the charismatic landscape muddying the true operation of the gifts..
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Heavenly Father, I pray that your Holy Spirit Fire would fall on Justin in such a powerful way that his life will never be the same. Transform his mind Lord and use him to share the truth of your Spirits Power. In Jesus Mighty name. 🙏 Amen
My dad abused my sister and I, and he denied it to the day he died. When he said that I my facial expressions... 🙄🤥 good gracious granny! I didn't need those details in my mind. That's beyond disturbing and makes me wonder what is in his mind. If I walked into a church and heard this, I'd walk right out.
Thanks Pastor Peters for exposing the dark deeds of charismatic teachers like Driscoll I grew up in a hyper dull, Dutch Calvinist Church and as a teen was drawn to these hyper insecure Charismatic frauds who are addicted to 'sensationalism'. I'm so glad to have been drawn to a grounded Reformed faith in our Sovereign Lord.
Haha! I know its not funny but this is the most animated I have seen you in a while. Love you bro Justin. I hope everyone had an amazing Sunday, growing in the knowledge of our Lord.
Mark Driscoll is an absolute disgrace Justin. You hit the nail on the head, he is a liar! Keep up the excellent work Justin, love and blessings to you and Cathy, Bronny 🙏🙏🇦🇺
Justin Peters, appreciated so much the warning of this not being for the youngones(kiddos), as my daughter was watching with, it allowed me to stop the video and save for watch later, thank you
Even IF- at the very least- continualism is real and some people have gifts: IF that were true, these people wouldn’t be defensive- they’d be patient and willing to discuss it. When something is true, it speaks for itself and you aren’t desperate to prove it.
@eternalpeaceandjoy your comment proves mine..as always no real come back..just people that can't defend their belief w the Bible.. The arguments are always That was just for apostles (No biblical basis for that) It says tongues will cease (Yes it says it'll happen when we know as we are known and see face to face..not when we get the canon) The signs were to establish their authority..we don't need that now (Not in Bible) Given ceasatioists are always about context and scripture, the lack of Bible given for this belief is unreal. Cessationists always accuse pentecostal of basing belief on experience not Bible..but really it's cessationists that do that... At the end of the day it's...If its real how come this happen or thay doesn't happen..sorry that's not the Bible.. Cessationism is wring because cessationists can't justify it w nothing but scripture
@eternalpeaceandjoy and no my comment doesn't prove your point..my comment proves that cessationists are frustrating to discuss this w because of their mental gymnastics and quickness to pull scripture of context or give no scripture at all to justify their doctrine..you can't discuss Bible w people that dont really believe the Bible
Thank you so much, Justin That you give us the heads up on these evildoers. I will pray that they get exposed and discredited or come to repentance God’s will be done!
Justin, for sure those so called abusers should have been jailed, lies can’t be jailed however. Crimes should always be reported. You are right, he is a great fabricator of stories. God bless you Justin, have followed you for a very long time. Stay safe!
God bless you and your platform my brother from another mother but with the same Heavenly Father and also for your boldness. Keep up the good work and fight for the Truth.❤🎉😊
Brother Justin, your work is always enlightening and truly helps with exercising my own discernment. Bless you for that. Will you lead your viewers in prayer for the “exposed” in question from now on please? Your prayers are very powerful, and would like to be guided how to pray for lost souls such as Mark, Who I’ve been watching lately and have recently had questions myself. Keeping you and your family in prayers, along with Mark and his congregation. God bless you all.🥰🙏❤️
His behavior at Mars Hill disqualified him from ever being in the pulpit again, or in any position of a church...for life. True repentance would have humbled him and he wouldn't dream of the responsibility (ACCOUNTABILITY) of being a pastor going forward. Driscoll clearly doesn't believe that pastors have a much higher level of accountability to the Lord, and unless the Lord changes his heart, he is going to be one of those Jesus tells, "Get away from me, I never knew you." Very sad. I live not far from where he is preaching in the Phoenix area and know people who attend his church. I try to warn them but they find him dynamic and "filled with the Spirit." They have zero discernment.
You should rip out from your bible every Psalm King David wrote in the Old Testament and every book in the New Testament where his Psalms are quoted starting with the gospels. David committed adultery and attempted to cover that up by murdering the lady's husband. Then rip out all of Peter's letters; he denied his Lord and cussed while doing it.
@@Victory7777Mark Driscoll is not anointed by the Lord, he is not a man after God's own heart like David was. Mark Driscoll is not an apostle. Look up what 1 Timothy 3:2 and Titus 1:6-7 says about church leaders. Nice try though. ;)
I don’t know who MD is but this made me feel physically sick and angry. I’ve never commented before but I am a new Christian and I thank God that I was led to people like Justin, John MacArthur and Paul Washer for the truth. Love from Belfast.
Kaysway811: Consider listening to non calvinists like Mike Winger. He does Q and A videos. You will begin to see the difference in beliefs of Calvinists, like Justin Peters, and Leighton Flowers, a provisionist. Or Kevin Thompson. You need to hear more than calvinists.
❤ Justin Peters, im so glad you brought up Mark Driscoll up. I was on the fence about him for a while because im still learning and I so want to understand all im learning from you, Steven and Paulette Kozar, David Lovi, Melissa Dougherty and all the rest of you all. Y'all have impacted my life so much. I've learned alot about discernment from all of you and im so happy to be on the right side of God's word. I probably didn't word that right but nonetheless im happy also to know that God speaks to us though His word. Thanks Justin, ill get back to your video now. May God bless you and your whole family ✝️🙏❤️
I have to disagree with something here. I confronted a person who sexually abused me as a little kid. She admitted what she'd done and begged me to forgive her. It does happen.
This video is solid confirmation that Driscoll is not only a pathological liar, but he's a complete, total sociopath and narcissist. If someone can look at another person with a straight face and tell them bold faced lies like this, they're twisted sociopaths. God bless you, Justin and thank you for spreading the truth the way you do to help the deceived as well as the lost
I agree with you but we shouldn’t use this psychological language. Psychology is often antithetical to our world view. There’s no need to label him. If he’s a liar and false teacher then that’s all we need to say. What could be worse than those? Sociopath implies that he is afflicted with some kind of disease. Mr Driscoll is affected by sin and evil, not some fake diagnosis that atheists invented 75 years ago. God Bless. I promise I’m not trying to be rude. I used to think the same way and it crippled my spiritual life
I thank you Justin for your videos and for sharing this blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the reproach that falls upon him is heart breaking and He deserves our praise and worship just like God the Father and his Glorious son the Lord Jesus. I pray that all those hearing this and possibly partaking in this practice that they would repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness.
Mark went off the rails a while back. Here he completely redefines, incorrectly, what discernment is. It is no longer about being able to tell the truth from error; with Mark, it is all about visions.
Marc Driscoll is well-known now for his various controversies and likely isnt actually the go-to source for continuationism - if anything going after him is going after low hanging fruit.
@@andrewt2140 that’s the only gift that’s ceased? Or you think God cannot raise dead people today? Talking about Corinthians 12:8-10 mentions wisdom, knowledge, faith, healing, miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, speaking in tongues, and interpretation of tongues. … why are these stopped?
@@JRAMSEY000 he stepped down from that church since then and repented to his congregation for his behaviors. So yes. But if it doesn’t matter to you… well that’s on you and not on me. God bless.
@@4elizabeth How do you know it doesn’t matter to me. I’d like to see a video of him repenting of his pornographic visions specifically, not just a blanket “I’m sorry for my sins”. Do you have a link?
We had a man in our former church who had murdered someone when he was a teen and strung out on drugs. The murder was never solved. Until this man came to Christ as an adult and by the conviction of the Holy Spirit, confessed to it. He went to our Pastor first and told him, and our Pastor told him what he knew he needed to do to make this right. He did, and he did go to prison. He served his time already and he has been out a while now. His son was a teenager at the time of his confession, but our church stepped in and helped with what was needed for his son. There was none of this “vision” garbage. Just a man accepting his consequences for his own sin from many years ago. 😊
Love you my brother in christ. Pastor Justin Peter's you are unbelievable and as always your in context with scripture please do not stop the battle in exposing these Charleton's who are making a mockery out of our Lord and savior's word. May God richly bless my life. And you have blessed many others far beyond what you may realize. Thank you, Justin Peters for being real and for being the example for us to follow. Your brother and Christ Jeffrey Davis..
I'd heard those really salacious descriptions of discernment by Driscoll before. It's more than a little blasphemous to suggest that God shows us X-rated pay per view as "discernment".
I'm so glad I ran into this video. Mark Driscoll is a new "pastor" I've been listening to and thought... Hmmm he's pretty good. But I trust Justin Peters and believe he has the discernment of the Holy Spirit. I'm sure it was the Holy Spirit that led me to Justin Peters video!
Even if what he was saying was true, the way he handled these, in front of the spouse and throwing out sexual abuse like that could be very damaging to those people. It shows how completely unqualified he is. Plus it could cause someone very naive to believe something happened that did not. He is dangerous!
Yep, either way, the fact that he is saying this in public is messed up. But it's all justifiable for Driscoll because it's proof of how spiritual he is.
I am not defending anyone's bad behaviour, but Mark Driscoll at least is attempting to walk in the Spirit. Any who do so will be cut down by the religious, self-righteous spirits who don't even open themselves to this realm themselves.
@phoenixrising8189 A)What he is doing by sharing private situations is HIGHLY irresponsible and inappropriate. B) If he gets anything wrong in his vision he just planted that idea in someone's head and all the dominoes that fall because of that could ruin relationships and families permanently. C) Anyone else who thinks they are having visions from God is now encouraged to do the same thing, consequences be damned. Nope, I wouldn't be defending that.
Justin love everything you do along with grace to you ministries. I have used your videos to not ony help guide me but froends and family away from wolves is sheeps clothing. Your clouds without water presentation started it all for years ago. Thankyou for all you do
My wife was "seeing things" and also "hearing things". Some said she was hearing from God. Things she said did not come true. She is diagnosed with schizophrenia. Sad because she is tormented at times. It's also difficult to be married to someone with mental illness.
That is hard. My late sister was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at age 18 and then was killed in a car accident 3 months after getting out of the hospital. It is sad, I'm sorry for your pain and for your wife's pain. 🙏❤️
I am not a cessationist but I love the ministries of many that are. I don’t believe that’s a reason to bash others from the opposite camp and I would certainly agree with your view of Mr.Driscoll. I love my cessationist brethren and I’d hope they love me as well. The Gospel shouldn’t be deterred by secondary issues. God bless
I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that he stood as a pastor and straight up lied to the congregation or that he’s spoke the things that he did in front of children that you know were listening to the sermon
Driscoll sounds more like a medium or a spiritist than a pastor. Having visions like that are what the mediums do, because they have a familiar spirit. The demons observe and know lots of things, and they share that information with their medium tools, who then use that knowledge to mislead and beguile those who don't read their Bibles. Driscoll is a medium. Sad for the people in his church. I've heard his name before, but I didn't know anything about him. Great video.
Let’s not forget this guys Elephant Room meeting with the failed and shamed James McDonald. Both are horrendous disappointments in so many people’s lives. Lastly his attempt with the lap dog McDonald when they tried to crash the MacArthur’s Strange Fire conference you spoke at.
I was given a video of Mark's "teaching" and it's exactly what I did. I listened to you brother and i shared your video. This is blasphemy and heresy at best. Our pastor said "Justin Peters is a good teacher and brother!" You are! Thank you brother!
Justin, in case you read this, God used your ministry and specifically the Clouds Without Water series to open my mind to the truth. This caused me to leave Mars Hill a year before the church shut down. I lost TONS of friends. It was a lonely walk but I had to follow truth once God showed it to me.
Please know I'm forever grateful for your work.
"For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you."
1 Corinthians 11:19
Thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement. I give God praise that He brought you out of that false church. Blessings to you and yours.
CESSATIONIST: "When God remained silent for 450 years (from Joshua to Samuel) was God limited or less God?" "
CHRISTIAN: How So, God Became... in silence from Joshua to Samuel? (Judges 1.1-2:
1 And it came to pass after the death of Joshua, that the children of Israel asked the LORD, saying, Which of us shall go up first into the Canaanites, to fight against them? 2And the LORD said, Judah shall go up; behold, I have given him the land into his hand; John 2.1,3; 6.8-10, 16, 23; etc. )
I may not know the length of years between Joshua and Samuel, but I do know that "after Joshua died" and before Samuel God spoke several times. Where did you get this statement that God remained silent for 450 years between Joshua and Samuel?
According to the perspective of some cessationists, miraculous gifts ceased immediately at the end of the apostolic era, that is, shortly after the death of the apostle John.
These same cessationists often point out that the miraculous gifts were gradually ceasing out. In Acts 19.11, around 53-55 AD, we read about Paul performing extraordinary wonders. Later, in Acts 28.8, approximately between 60-62 AD, we see that he healed Publius' father of dysentery through prayer and the laying on of hands. Subsequently, Paul no longer had the ability to perform miracles to heal diseases, such as those of Epaphrodite (Philippians 2.25-27, around 60-62 AD), Timothy (1 Timothy 5.23, around 62-66 AD), and Trophimus (2 Timothy 4.20, around 67-68 AD). Hebrews 2.3-4 is then used to argue that the writer made clear that signs, wonders, and gifts of the Spirit were things of the past. The absence of references of the continuity of these events at the time of writing this passage demonstrates, from this perspective, that these miraculous gifts had already ceased.
3. Since, according to these cessationists themselves, the miraculous gifts ceased immediately after the death of the Apostle John, this means that the Apostle John was already dead when Hebrews 2.3-4 was written. Not only this, but the Revelation of John should have been written before Hebrews 2.3-4. Meanwhile, these same cessionists insist that Apocalypse is the last book in the Canon of Scriptures. And nothing can be added after him. But if these cessionists are true, then what is the epistle to the Hebrews doing within the canon of scriptures. These same cessationists also say that a book to be recognized as canonical must have been written by an apostle. However, since, according to these cessationists, the apostle John would have already died and the apostle with him, then the writer to the Hebrews could not have been Paul. It has never been so easy to exclude Paul from the debate about the authorship of Aos Hebrews.
Can you realize that cessationist theology is a doctrine of demons that systematically subverts the Christian faith? It's too easy to reduce cessationism to absurd. That's because Cessationism is a systematic absurdity.
They think they can avoid this nonsense by redefining the terms. The problem is that they don't realize that the cessationist absurd resides in their epistemological and metaphysical axioms and not in secondary propositions. The only way cessationism stops being heretic is to become factual epistemology and metaphysics differently biblical.
According to some cessationists, (1) miraculous gifts are not of the Spirit (Hb 2.4) but OF THE APOSTLES. (2)They are not given by the Spirit for the edification of the church (1Co 12.7), but only by the laying on of the apostles' hands. (3)Not for the main purpose of building up the church, but for the main purpose to authenticate the apostles themselves.
I CORINTHIANS 12:7-11 ACCORDING TO THIS CESSATIONISM VERSION:
7But the manifestation of the Apostles is given to every one, for what it is useful. 8For to one is given the word of wisdom through the apostles; and to another through the same apostles the word of science; 9and to another through the Apostles faith; and to another by the Apostles the gifts of healing; 10and to another the working of wonders; and to another prophecy; and to one the gift of discerning spirits; to another the variety of languages; and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11But one and THE SAME APOSTLES operate all these things, distributing individually to each one as he pleases.
On the other hand, since miraculous gifts are the exclusive property of the Holy Spirit and not the Apostles, the only way for cessationism to succeed is to postpone the death of the Spirit. This reminds me of that murdering spirit that killed the Son. However you try, you can't kill the Spirit.
@@JustinPetersMin have a listen. Was Derek Prince a false teacher. I think not. If you are wrong in your cessationism, along with John MacArthur and others, you are by definition committing blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
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Notice near the end, Derek addresses demons in Christians.
"Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right." - Charles Spurgeon
@@anthonyprose4965 There was an apostolic gift of discernment at Pentecost but there is also spiritual discernment that comes from studying the word of God. It has everything to do with discerning what aligns with the bible (right) and what doesnt align with the bible( wrong) as well as discerning what is evil and what is not. We who are born again in Christ who study the word will grow in spiritual maturity, sanctification, and discernment.I have provided you with a few scriptures that back me up but there are more because Gods word explains Gods word. I pray that you study up on this(2Tim2:15) so that you understand what a child of God gains by faithfully applying themselves to Gods word.Blessings
Hebrews 5:14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained their senses to distinguish good from evil.
Phil 1: 9And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
Ephesians 5:17
Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
@@anthonyprose4965 🤨
Red hot
@@anthonyprose4965 found the tongue speaker 😂
@@anthonyprose4965 The word for discernment that used means to have judicial disputation. It very much has to do with discerning right from wrong. False doctrine comes from wicked men and evil spirits.
There is no greater miracle than having you’re inner nature transformed from being a hater of God and Christ to loving Him and embracing Him
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The wretch the song refers toooooo!
And..... that has what to do with "the works that I do you shall do and greater than these because I go to The Father"... Are you trying to imply salvation and physical miracles are mutually exclusive... are you doing this to justify a lack of the miraculous in your life, the Churches' life, your pastors life...etc...
@@christopherlammons8448 You're gonna do a work greater than an atoning death on the cross and resurrection in the flesh?? Wow man! I can't wait to see that!!
Or....maybe that's NOT what that passage means.
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Actually friend, there are greater miracles than being transformed in the inner man. There is : healing from sickness, reconstructive miracles, dead-raising, manifesting of food and other needs and more. Jesus DID tell us, (including you, the believer), that greater works than these (Jesus' works) shall you do. But a cessationist would tell you that Jesus has stopped all that. That to me is the preaching of unbelief in what Jesus said. 'My words will never pass away...'
I believe Cessationists are wrong but not necessarily what I would call unGodly.
As a cessationist, I can verify my view of the Holy Spirit is quite high. He perfomed a miracle within me. This miracle didn't give me a supernatural vision. It didn’t let me see angels. It didn't give me heat vision. It didn’t let me heal sick people by touching them and repeating nursery rhymes. And it certainly didn't make me wobble around in laughter like a drunken baffoon. But it was a miracle, and that cannot be denied.
Amen
If you're talking about salvation, well enough. Otherwise your "miracle" can very certainly be denied.
@@jeffengstrom8657 and how is that, outside of salvation?
@@jeffengstrom8657 Salvation, all the fruits thereof, and those still to come.
Amen!
My jaw DROPPED when he started describing his ‘vision’ from the ‘Holy Spirit’. I would argue that he himself has some unrepentant sin he has not dealt with in that area, as well as all the lies. Disgusting
It’s no better or worse than Steven furtick or what any other millennial church is saying
Jesus warned us that their would be many false teachers and prophets in the last days. We'll they are here!
My myself lied when I said I had a vision a few times and did it to be more included in the tribe. I made it seem like I had like 30 visions in a year lasting like 1 hour in total. Reality is I had 2 and they all lasted like 10 seconds in total 😂😂😂
Agree with you 100 percent
It's been FINANCIALLY ROUGH for me the last 3 years but I trust God and he will carry me through as I live for him hallelujah!!
That's awesome!!! I know nothing about investment and I'm keen on getting started. What are the strategies?
I'll advise you to work with a financial advisor.....Building a good investment portfolio is more complex so I would recommend you seek Fergus Waylen's support. This way you can get strategies designed to address your unique long/short-term goals and financial dreams
Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing him been mentioned here also Didn't know he has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, i'm in my fifth trade with him and it has been super.
YES!!! That's exactly his name (Fergus Waylen) so many people have recommended highly about him and am just starting with him from Brisbane Australia
I don't want to put a figure to how much i've made doing that but let's just say it's more than enough to make trading worthwhile. And when i say worthwhile, i mean it.
Thank you for presenting this. I found it helpful. His videos are all over the internet. As someone who experienced abuse as a child, what he supposedly sees and does would be terribly harmful to an abused person. Confronting someone about their abuse without much preparation is unheard of in counseling and dangerous. The way he claims to counsel people is actually harsh and abusive. It takes decades and a lot of work and prayer to deal with the trauma. Casually tossing off questions to the abused person would be humiliating, frightening and sham3ful. People who have been abused take on the guilt and shame of the perpetrator. As far as his marital counseling, tossing out the accusation of infidelity during a joint session would cause terrible harm. I pray that he is lying about how he approaches people because if he is telling the truth he is causing terrible damage to people. Beyond his obvious false claims of visions, he is harming those he claims to help.
I've actually seen a charismatic friend "go there" with a girl I knew... until she was in tears. It's not helpful, it's basically predatory. Hunting for tears to affirm your profound delusion is predatory. Edit: It was a bit creepier than this comment explains though. He was persistent and she was reluctant to talk about it... Like he was getting rocks off making her relive those memories. Idunno man, it was DARK. Anyway... I've listened to Mark a lot and experienced the occasional OOF but yep.... I needed to see this. This is more than OOF.
When I was a "continuationist" (more like a restorationist) I used to think the Holy Spirit's work consisted of making people act crazy and emotional. At that time I was enslaved to every carnal sin that came my way but because I got emotional at church and was in leadership in "Worship", I assumed I was OK. Fast forward to 9 years ago and God called me, a lost sheep, to follow him! Praise God I can tell you the true work of the Holy Spirit has been so much more potent, miraculous and powerful than anything I ever experienced in the NAR/ hyper charismatic movement. The revival of a stone- cold, dead heart into a living heart is far greater than the faux signs and wonders they point to.
I'm a former Catholic, and Catholics believe that miracles can and do happen often (e.g. crying statues of Mary or Jesus, and that sort of thing). They also think relics of saints have powers etc. But they aren't particularly "crazy and emotional" in church. Catholic "continuationism" vs Protestant is an interesting ocmparison.
@@historyandhorseplaying7374 that's a very interesting point you make... my parents are still hyper charismatics and when I've brought up the issue of bad theology in the Roman catholic church, my mom countered with "but there are catholics who were filled with the Holy Spirit" referencing the supposed charismatic "outpourings" such as Notre Dame in the 60s. Sadly to most charismatics, that trumps doctrine.
Praise God!! I was also in that same situation before God open my eyes to the Gospel and yes regeneration is beautiful wonderful miracle of God- truly is a new life, 🙌🏼
@@lisfongI’ve encountered that too. Never mind that Catholics preach a different gospel, if they speak gibberish they must be saved.
@@sledawgpilot Isn't that incredible? I remember when my mom first said it to me I almost couldn't believe it...but then I thought back to how I would have felt and because it is believed more surely than gospel truth that it is the "evidence of the filling of the Holy Spirit", your critical thinking skills are completely overrun.
Cessationists do not believe that the Holy Spirit is no longer active. We believe that He convicts the world of sin and of righteousness and of judgment; He calls and sanctifies His people; He applies Christ's work on the Cross to all who believe; He baptizes Christians into the Body of Christ; He indwells every believer, leading us in truth, sanctification, and service; He continues to give gifts such as mercy, administration, teaching, exhortation, and others.
Amen, also we are sealed by Holy Spirit till the day of redemption and it is guaranteed!
@@angelozavala8335 Amen!
Amen!
Amen!
1Co 12:7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
1Co 12:8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit,
1Co 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
1Co 12:10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
1Co 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
So you don't think the HS manifests these gifts mentioned above. That is sad since there is ZERO biblical evidence that these gifts have ceased. Especially utterance of wisdom and knowledge.
Unfortunately this is basically blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
There is something Justin Peters and other cessationists do not take into account. Satan and his minions create counterfeit gifts of the spirit. You can not have the counterfeit without the real. For example where the HS manifests tongues so also Satan can manifest tongues
Thank you for the work that you do Justin. ❤
Thank you for uncovering this and providing awareness.
Thank you for being such a faithful servant of Christ, Pastor Justin. May God continue to bless you, your family and your ministry.
Not sure what you consider a qualitifcation to be a pastor. Pastor Peters is quite qualified. About Pastor Peters: " Justin earned his undergraduate at Mississippi State University (1995) and then a Master of Divinity and Master of Theology (2000, 2002) from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. "
@QuietlyContemplating
@@arlynsmith9196 hmmm. I just checked qualifications listed in scripture and nothing you posted was there. lol. Interesting. Are you aware that we have the word of God as our guide and bit your opinions?
1 Tim 3
1 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, 5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God’s church? 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.
Seems like you’ve got your faith squarely in the word of man.
One lie about Mark Driscoll makes Justin a slanderous man and is disqualified as a pastor. Justin told many about Mark. And not just Mark. Justin needs to repent of being a liar
@@Victory7777please share
Thanks again for pointing out these false teachers and their hypocrisy!
Exactly amen! We as Christians need to be extremely careful of these wolves. Lord, grant us discernment and protect us.
@@johntrevett2944try watching the video first and most importantly paying attention before making foolish comments.
2024 is a year that false teachers are going to be removed from the Pulpit. T D Jake's is a good example of the wrath of God.
Right? Cessationists are the worst
@@thegrigs777I'll take any examples of Acts 2 type tongues today
Justin thank you for helping guide us to spot false prophets and unbiblical pastors. I’ve been watching your channel for a couple weeks now. Your explanations are practical and easy to digest.
Thank you, Justin Peters, for exposing false teachers & all you do. God Bless you 🎉
He should be helping the police. He can see every crime.
He's like a pre-cog from Minority Report!🤦♀
@@lisfongI was gonna say that you beat me to it...🙏
@@lisfong😂
How about the Long Island medium.
Lol
Thank you, Justin, for your bold and unwavering stand against false teaching. Driscoll is a wolf. Mark and avoid!
You know, a wolf like that would make a beautiful throw rug
Y’all need Jesus.
@@geef0813would you be a backer of Mark Driscoll?
@@geef0813Yeah. To come back and deal with wolves like Driscoll.
@@williamelliott nope. I personally dislike him. However this is a discussion about gifts of the spirit. Which is a SECONDARY issue. It’s not a gospel issue. Let’s see what God has to say about secondary issues. We don’t even have to guess. His word explains it quite nicely.
Roman’s 14.
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. 3 Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. 4 Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master[a] that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. 8 For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
10 Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written,
“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess[b] to God.”
12 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.
So let’s learn to have grace, as Jesus gives US grace. Surely you’re not foolish enough to believe that you, a sinful wretch have perfect theology on all secondary and tertiary issues. I know I certainly would never claim that. I’m a sinner and a wretch just like you. So I choose to have grace on non gospel issues, as commanded by God. How are you different and special that your theology and interpretation of scripture is flawless?
Thank you mr. Peters for all your hard work! As a couple coming out of the charismatic movement, your videos have greatly blessed us! Keep up the good work
Thsnk you Pastor. Praise the Lord for teachers like you. Please guide and protect all of your children dearest Lord. In your mighty name amen 🤍✝️
Thanks for the video Justin .. you are spot on .. and yes & Amen- Praying for Mark Driscoll .. ! 💙🙏
Thank you guys. How are y'all doing?
@@JustinPetersMin - JUSTIN PETERS we miss you dear Gospel bro & Kathy 😄 !!!! Hope “y’all “ are doing well.. loved going through the whole One Year Audio Bible [LSB] w/ you guys all of 2023 .. PTL 🙌 ✝️
Still been going to GCC & also to CBC in H.B. [ w/ the blessing of our beloved Ps. JMac … as there are fellowship groups closer etc. ] Been traveling ALOT .. (New Zealand & Australia lately twice for both.. Liberia , El Salvador, Costa Rica .. Central America ..etc. Fly fly fly 😅✈️ ] .
We are still receiving quite a bit of feedback re: You & Jim Osman’s videos .. & also you & Costi’s videos as well ..and your one video is nearing 11M .. of which we PTL for the “good work” He did in you with that .. the Lord is so good. // Anyway- lotsa love from above to you & Kathy from your SO4J & GCC bros & sistahs !! 😊💙🙏
it is my belief that someone who will openly describe these acts is only reveling the lusts of their own heart.
Wow! This is sick. Thoses poor people in his church are so blind if they can't see these lies. Thank you Justin for exposing this.
The man wrote a book with his wife which is meant to be some kind of perverted handbook with the premise that the Song Of Solomon is basically sexual manual for Christians. That's so evil.
Paul said in the last days that people will not endure sound teaching and will gather teachers who will tickle their ears. This fraudster is one of those false teachers.
it's a grain of sand.. there are thousands of churches worse than that one.. and that church was closed down, don't you see the video clip is like 20 or 30+ years old? That guy doesn't look anything like that anymore lol
This guy is a NUT. Who is going to sit through that?? Are they that blinded?? Why are all those people he has seen not been arrested?? The police should be knocking on his door demanding answers.
No criminal admits guilt just from a question asked.
No sinner admits guilt from a "vision" without any proof of the sin.
This is the road that leads to false accusations and slander
Maybe he is seeing visions from a spirit, BUT certainly not the Holy Spirit.. my heart aches for anyone sitting under such diabolical teaching. I thank God for you Justin, and other faithful people like you, that have the courage to call out false teachers. 🙏🙏🙏
I thought the exact same- a spirit knowledge alright, but demonically?? ! 😢
I had the same thought. He sits with people and says hes going to ask the demons questions that are in them...???? Ummmm and he thinks that the demons are going to tell the truth? ( supposing there were demons) Why didnt he just cast them out ? why sit and chat with them?Its all rediculous .I left the charismatic movement years ago thank God !
So demons can talk but the God of All can't? Blasphemous
He looks at women and sees visions of violence and sexual violence; that is very disturbing. Perhaps he’s possessed by a demon or he is being tormented by one.
He never looked at anyone and saw their testimony of salvation and the transformation that they went thru ?
Curious 🧐
Wow. What a weirdo. Thank you for exposing this person. You’re right, he isn’t fit for ministry. He’s A narcissist starved for attention, super weird. Grace love and peace to all. I am special prayers prayers for Mark Driscoll
So thankful for godly men like Justin Peters!
I was in an Acts 29 church in Washington. We used Mark & Grace Driscoll’s book “Teal Marriage”. The anecdote Mark shared about a vision of a church member in sexual sin that he shares in this sermon is in writing in “Real Marriage.” May I say how horrified our study group was to read that??!!
Thank the Lord Mark & Grace are gone from the area. 😢
Driscoll is making a comeback and it is concerning.
@@hisservants8003 we started attending his church in 2020 and God showed us how mark was currently behaving, and we made quick exit from that community. I praise God for showing what was going on There are so many of his congregation that know how he is, and they actively protect him and shun those trying to tell the truth. It a big operation of intimidation and deceit.
How did it happen to effect the person he said that about
How did it happen to effect the person he said that about
Thank you for your faithfulness, Brother Peters.❤
Shocked me to the core. Thanks for coming out and dealing with this. Exposure is necessary for people to realize what the enemy can get up to in a church. Lord let your fire touch this falsehood that so harms us all as biblical truth-seeking Christians.
Justin, I really hope you’re able to read this. I just want you to know what a blessing your ministry has been in my life during my recovery from the severe trauma I’ve experienced during my time spent in the NAR/hyper-charismatic movement. You speak with such gentleness and kindness yet authority that comes from the true Holy Spirit. Thank you for everything you do. I look forward to meeting you someday as my brother in Christ, if not in this life, then in eternity, where I believe your reward will be great.
These false teachers know Cessationists don’t think the Holy Spirit is not active anymore. It’s a thought stopping device they throw out as a sound bite and their followers believe it without investigating. They never argue for the other gifts mentioned in scripture. They ignore the gifts of hospitality or administration. They are the ones who ignore the Holy Spirit’s work and make miraculous gifts into an idol.
Just home from our Sunday night service and I see a premiere for a Justin Peters video!? What a blessed evening! 😁👍🙏
Hey Jp, just wanted to say thank you for your unwavering faithfulness to the gospel and to the Church. I really struggle with cervical spinal problems as well as gi. It's really been a pretty depressive last couple of years, with the majority of it being through the pain in my body. Please pray for me and the struggles I have through these issues. Can't imagine what you've been through physically and mentally because of it, but please know it's an encouragement. Thanks again, and praise God. Soli Deo Gloria!
Discernment tells me that Mark Driscoll's "visions" are perverted. The Holy Spirit doesn't work this way and what man of God would ever even want that imagery in his mind. This is so sad and Mr. Driscoll needs to repent.
This is so disturbing..but what is even more unsettling is the fact there is an entire congregation sitting under him. 😢
With minors present?
Yes, and how many others around the world, but mostly in America I suppose.
What’s wrong with this guy?.
Please prove for me from scripture that secessionism is not biblical. I think it’s a ploy of the enemy to convince people that certain New Testament gifts are for today and others are not. There is no evidence for this unbiblical doctrine of cessationism.
It's like any other cult. An extreme personality can fool alot of, otherwise, intelligent and well meaning people
We have to much false preachers and false churches in the USA 🇺🇸 and the world 🌎 Amen 🙏
The problem is the Americanisation of the church. Even in South Africa these churches affect local congregations and cause pastors to partake in the foolishness . The damaging excesses of these mega churches are a blot on the charismatic landscape muddying the true operation of the gifts..
@@bronzewing1965 Hopefully, this video will warn some, so that they can run from this false teacher.
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This is narcissism TO A PSYCHOTIC DEGREE!
Heavenly Father, I pray that your Holy Spirit Fire would fall on Justin in such a powerful way that his life will never be the same. Transform his mind Lord and use him to share the truth of your Spirits Power. In Jesus Mighty name. 🙏 Amen
My dad abused my sister and I, and he denied it to the day he died. When he said that I my facial expressions... 🙄🤥 good gracious granny! I didn't need those details in my mind. That's beyond disturbing and makes me wonder what is in his mind. If I walked into a church and heard this, I'd walk right out.
Thanks Pastor Peters for exposing the dark deeds of charismatic teachers like Driscoll
I grew up in a hyper dull, Dutch Calvinist Church and as a teen was drawn to these hyper insecure Charismatic frauds who are addicted to 'sensationalism'.
I'm so glad to have been drawn to a grounded Reformed faith in our Sovereign Lord.
Im a continuationist but love your work exposing all the counterfeits brother keep it up!
All continuationist are false
Thanks for shining a light on this sad situation...I too shall pray for this man.
Haha! I know its not funny but this is the most animated I have seen you in a while. Love you bro Justin. I hope everyone had an amazing Sunday, growing in the knowledge of our Lord.
Agreed ❤
The gift of discernment is not seeing visions but understanding truth from error in the Bible.
Discernment is being able to know the truth of the word of God from the devils lies
I have never heard cessationists say miracles don't happen rather, they say miracles happen at Jesus' will.
Justin sir praying for you and your ministry ❤🙏🙏🙏🙏God bless❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Justin for exposing this guy. I look forward to seeing you at the Cessationist Conference in October
Mark Driscoll is an absolute disgrace Justin. You hit the nail on the head, he is a liar! Keep up the excellent work Justin, love and blessings to you and Cathy, Bronny 🙏🙏🇦🇺
Thank you Pastor Justin 🤍
I learned ALOT from you brother 🎚️
2 years before Charles Stanley's death, he said yes Jesus heals, physical healing... yes.... quoting Ps 103
Justin Peters, appreciated so much the warning of this not being for the youngones(kiddos), as my daughter was watching with, it allowed me to stop the video and save for watch later, thank you
You are so welcome - sad that such a warning was necessary. Blessings to you and your family :)
Howdy y'all. New Year, same mess. Bless you Justin 🙏🏾
I agree with Mark on this one. 👍
Even IF- at the very least- continualism is real and some people have gifts: IF that were true, these people wouldn’t be defensive- they’d be patient and willing to discuss it. When something is true, it speaks for itself and you aren’t desperate to prove it.
Oh please ..I've discussed w many cessationists..hard to be patient w people that get their doctrine anywhere but from the Bible
@@thegrigs777 your comment is proving my point
@eternalpeaceandjoy your comment proves mine..as always no real come back..just people that can't defend their belief w the Bible..
The arguments are always
That was just for apostles
(No biblical basis for that)
It says tongues will cease
(Yes it says it'll happen when we know as we are known and see face to face..not when we get the canon)
The signs were to establish their authority..we don't need that now
(Not in Bible)
Given ceasatioists are always about context and scripture, the lack of Bible given for this belief is unreal.
Cessationists always accuse pentecostal of basing belief on experience not Bible..but really it's cessationists that do that...
At the end of the day it's...If its real how come this happen or thay doesn't happen..sorry that's not the Bible..
Cessationism is wring because cessationists can't justify it w nothing but scripture
@eternalpeaceandjoy and no my comment doesn't prove your point..my comment proves that cessationists are frustrating to discuss this w because of their mental gymnastics and quickness to pull scripture of context or give no scripture at all to justify their doctrine..you can't discuss Bible w people that dont really believe the Bible
@@thegrigs777 you didn’t give any biblical context to your argument or provide any verses as well. Have a good day.
Thank you so much, Justin
That you give us the heads up on these evildoers.
I will pray that they get exposed and discredited or come to repentance
God’s will be done!
Justin, for sure those so called abusers should have been jailed, lies can’t be jailed however. Crimes should always be reported. You are right, he is a great fabricator of stories. God bless you Justin, have followed you for a very long time. Stay safe!
God bless you and your platform my brother from another mother but with the same Heavenly Father and also for your boldness. Keep up the good work and fight for the Truth.❤🎉😊
Brother Justin, your work is always enlightening and truly helps with exercising my own discernment. Bless you for that. Will you lead your viewers in prayer for the “exposed” in question from now on please? Your prayers are very powerful, and would like to be guided how to pray for lost souls such as Mark, Who I’ve been watching lately and have recently had questions myself. Keeping you and your family in prayers, along with Mark and his congregation. God bless you all.🥰🙏❤️
God Bless You Pastor and your messages , May the Lord Watch Over and Protect You From All Evil Attacks! Amen 🙏
I've been a christian for 40 years and today is the first time I've ever heard the word cessationist.
Same.....
Me too. At least a Christian term.
Almost that long for me also. That's because most "Christianity" is apostate madness. Glad you found the truth!👍
@@stephenbiggins9114so true
Same here.
This was excellent Grant. Good tone and biblically solid. (2 Tim 2:24-26, Titus 1:9)
Driscoll is a false convert, false teacher. Let's not worry about him.
Justin, thanks for exposing him more.
Thank you for exposing these wicked wolves.
Hi. I used to go to Mars Hill in Seattle. Mark D never had the heart of a pastor. Can't believe he's back at again in Arizona
His behavior at Mars Hill disqualified him from ever being in the pulpit again, or in any position of a church...for life. True repentance would have humbled him and he wouldn't dream of the responsibility (ACCOUNTABILITY) of being a pastor going forward. Driscoll clearly doesn't believe that pastors have a much higher level of accountability to the Lord, and unless the Lord changes his heart, he is going to be one of those Jesus tells, "Get away from me, I never knew you." Very sad.
I live not far from where he is preaching in the Phoenix area and know people who attend his church. I try to warn them but they find him dynamic and "filled with the Spirit." They have zero discernment.
You should rip out from your bible every Psalm King David wrote in the Old Testament and every book in the New Testament where his Psalms are quoted starting with the gospels. David committed adultery and attempted to cover that up by murdering the lady's husband. Then rip out all of Peter's letters; he denied his Lord and cussed while doing it.
@@Victory7777Mark Driscoll is not anointed by the Lord, he is not a man after God's own heart like David was. Mark Driscoll is not an apostle.
Look up what 1 Timothy 3:2 and Titus 1:6-7 says about church leaders.
Nice try though. ;)
I agree with you Justin this man is Demonic , Thank you Justin for calling this false teacher out.
I don’t know who MD is but this made me feel physically sick and angry. I’ve never commented before but I am a new Christian and I thank God that I was led to people like Justin, John MacArthur and Paul Washer for the truth. Love from Belfast.
Thank you so much, Kay! Blessings to you in Belfast, sister :)
God bless you! Trust the Lord with all your heart and continue to believe what is written in the Bible. He will keep you! Be encouraged today!
@@JustinPetersMin thank you so very much for commenting and thanks gain for your ministry 😀
@@Izthefaithful thanks so very much 😀
Kaysway811: Consider listening to non calvinists like Mike Winger. He does Q and A videos. You will begin to see the difference in beliefs of Calvinists, like Justin Peters, and Leighton Flowers, a provisionist.
Or Kevin Thompson.
You need to hear more than calvinists.
I want to thank,you for reading theBible in a year series. I listen to you every day.
❤ Justin Peters, im so glad you brought up Mark Driscoll up. I was on the fence about him for a while because im still learning and I so want to understand all im learning from you, Steven and Paulette Kozar, David Lovi, Melissa Dougherty and all the rest of you all. Y'all have impacted my life so much. I've learned alot about discernment from all of you and im so happy to be on the right side of God's word. I probably didn't word that right but nonetheless im happy also to know that God speaks to us though His word. Thanks Justin, ill get back to your video now. May God bless you and your whole family ✝️🙏❤️
Sound biblical teachers... Justin peters, John macarthur. Steve lawson. Paul Washer. Voddie Baucham, follow these and read your Bible, much love
I have to disagree with something here. I confronted a person who sexually abused me as a little kid. She admitted what she'd done and begged me to forgive her. It does happen.
Some cessasionist are angry, bitter, judgmental & lack teaching the whole counsel of God! Justin is one of those people.
We need to pray that Justin's spiritual eyes and ears are opened. God can help him, God can do all things! We all need Jesus.
@@gandalf0987 agree!
Did we watch the same video?
This video is solid confirmation that Driscoll is not only a pathological liar, but he's a complete, total sociopath and narcissist. If someone can look at another person with a straight face and tell them bold faced lies like this, they're twisted sociopaths. God bless you, Justin and thank you for spreading the truth the way you do to help the deceived as well as the lost
Along w Greg lock
I agree with you but we shouldn’t use this psychological language. Psychology is often antithetical to our world view. There’s no need to label him. If he’s a liar and false teacher then that’s all we need to say. What could be worse than those? Sociopath implies that he is afflicted with some kind of disease. Mr Driscoll is affected by sin and evil, not some fake diagnosis that atheists invented 75 years ago. God Bless. I promise I’m not trying to be rude. I used to think the same way and it crippled my spiritual life
Do you feel better after getting to call someone names? The anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God, friend.
@@geef0813
I didn't call him names. I spoke the truth and not in anger.
@@SuperORION91 lol. Did you speak it in love?
Love you Mr. Peters. Thanks for your discernment. It has helped me greatly.
I thank you Justin for your videos and for sharing this blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the reproach that falls upon him is heart breaking and He deserves our praise and worship just like God the Father and his Glorious son the Lord Jesus. I pray that all those hearing this and possibly partaking in this practice that they would repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness.
Mark went off the rails a while back. Here he completely redefines, incorrectly, what discernment is. It is no longer about being able to tell the truth from error; with Mark, it is all about visions.
If I wasn’t already a cessationist, finding out that Mark Driscoll was bashing that view would cause me to rethink my position
Marc Driscoll is well-known now for his various controversies and likely isnt actually the go-to source for continuationism - if anything going after him is going after low hanging fruit.
You’re right, Driscoll is low hanging fruit, but if he bashes or espouses any view, I’m gonna take a closer look at what I believe
@@mbrdc555can you tell me why you believe the gifts have ceased?
@freedom5941 when was the last dead person you have seen raised from the dead?
@@andrewt2140 that’s the only gift that’s ceased? Or you think God cannot raise dead people today?
Talking about Corinthians 12:8-10 mentions wisdom, knowledge, faith, healing, miracles, prophecy, discerning of spirits, speaking in tongues, and interpretation of tongues. … why are these stopped?
Here we go again with Mark Driscoll! After leaving his former church in absolute disgrace, the guy can’t help himself!
Paint the beauty WE SPLIT.
That video that Peter’s showed was 10 years old
@@4elizabethis that supposed to make it better somehow?
@@JRAMSEY000 he stepped down from that church since then and repented to his congregation for his behaviors. So yes. But if it doesn’t matter to you… well that’s on you and not on me. God bless.
@@4elizabeth How do you know it doesn’t matter to me. I’d like to see a video of him repenting of his pornographic visions specifically, not just a blanket “I’m sorry for my sins”. Do you have a link?
We had a man in our former church who had murdered someone when he was a teen and strung out on drugs. The murder was never solved. Until this man came to Christ as an adult and by the conviction of the Holy Spirit, confessed to it.
He went to our Pastor first and told him, and our Pastor told him what he knew he needed to do to make this right.
He did, and he did go to prison.
He served his time already and he has been out a while now.
His son was a teenager at the time of his confession, but our church stepped in and helped with what was needed for his son.
There was none of this “vision” garbage. Just a man accepting his consequences for his own sin from many years ago. 😊
Love you my brother in christ. Pastor Justin Peter's you are unbelievable and as always your in context with scripture please do not stop the battle in exposing these Charleton's who are making a mockery out of our Lord and savior's word. May God richly bless my life. And you have blessed many others far beyond what you may realize. Thank you, Justin Peters for being real and for being the example for us to follow. Your brother and Christ Jeffrey Davis..
Missed your teachings during the break! Thanks for your work and how much you have taught me! From Mississippi
Blessings to a fellow Mississippian :)
I'd heard those really salacious descriptions of discernment by Driscoll before. It's more than a little blasphemous to suggest that God shows us X-rated pay per view as "discernment".
I'm so glad I ran into this video. Mark Driscoll is a new "pastor" I've been listening to and thought... Hmmm he's pretty good. But I trust Justin Peters and believe he has the discernment of the Holy Spirit. I'm sure it was the Holy Spirit that led me to Justin Peters video!
Thank you Justin!!👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏
Even we assume he had those visions, he use them for his own fame, not to help victims. Therefore, those visions are either lies or from demons.
How could you possibly know this?
Thank you for your vital work, brother.
Hi Justin. Could you please post the Scriptures that categorically state that the gifts have ceased. Many thanks.
He can't.
Keep up the good work Justin!
Even if what he was saying was true, the way he handled these, in front of the spouse and throwing out sexual abuse like that could be very damaging to those people. It shows how completely unqualified he is. Plus it could cause someone very naive to believe something happened that did not. He is dangerous!
Yep, either way, the fact that he is saying this in public is messed up.
But it's all justifiable for Driscoll because it's proof of how spiritual he is.
I am not defending anyone's bad behaviour, but Mark Driscoll at least is attempting to walk in the Spirit. Any who do so will be cut down by the religious, self-righteous spirits who don't even open themselves to this realm themselves.
@phoenixrising8189 A)What he is doing by sharing private situations is HIGHLY irresponsible and inappropriate. B) If he gets anything wrong in his vision he just planted that idea in someone's head and all the dominoes that fall because of that could ruin relationships and families permanently. C) Anyone else who thinks they are having visions from God is now encouraged to do the same thing, consequences be damned.
Nope, I wouldn't be defending that.
Just wearing a Disney shirt while preaching should be disqualifying at this point 😂.
Was thinking the same thing! 😅
Driscoll is doing the same thing that counselors everywhere are doing. Instilling false memories in gullible people, especially about molestation,
Justin love everything you do along with grace to you ministries. I have used your videos to not ony help guide me but froends and family away from wolves is sheeps clothing. Your clouds without water presentation started it all for years ago. Thankyou for all you do
My wife was "seeing things" and also "hearing things". Some said she was hearing from God. Things she said did not come true. She is diagnosed with schizophrenia. Sad because she is tormented at times. It's also difficult to be married to someone with mental illness.
I’m praying for you.
🙏🙏🙏
That is hard. My late sister was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at age 18 and then was killed in a car accident 3 months after getting out of the hospital. It is sad, I'm sorry for your pain and for your wife's pain. 🙏❤️
The nifty rotating planets are gone! Thanks for teaching and informing.
I noticed that, too! They were really cool!
Anytime I see a video by Justin Peters, I definitely want to watch it!!!! I tell people to watch him also. I trust and respect him.
I am not a cessationist but I love the ministries of many that are. I don’t believe that’s a reason to bash others from the opposite camp and I would certainly agree with your view of Mr.Driscoll. I love my cessationist brethren and I’d hope they love me as well. The Gospel shouldn’t be deterred by secondary issues. God bless
I don’t know what’s worse, the fact that he stood as a pastor and straight up lied to the congregation or that he’s spoke the things that he did in front of children that you know were listening to the sermon
Driscoll sounds more like a medium or a spiritist than a pastor. Having visions like that are what the mediums do, because they have a familiar spirit. The demons observe and know lots of things, and they share that information with their medium tools, who then use that knowledge to mislead and beguile those who don't read their Bibles. Driscoll is a medium. Sad for the people in his church.
I've heard his name before, but I didn't know anything about him. Great video.
Let’s not forget this guys Elephant Room meeting with the failed and shamed James McDonald. Both are horrendous disappointments in so many people’s lives.
Lastly his attempt with the lap dog McDonald when they tried to crash the MacArthur’s Strange Fire conference you spoke at.
I was given a video of Mark's "teaching" and it's exactly what I did. I listened to you brother and i shared your video. This is blasphemy and heresy at best.
Our pastor said "Justin Peters is a good teacher and brother!" You are!
Thank you brother!