Mat is referring to workout 20.4 in case anyone is interested. Here is the description: For time: 30 box jumps, 24 in. 15 clean and jerks, 95 lb. 30 box jumps, 24 in. 15 clean and jerks, 135 lb. 30 box jumps, 24 in. 10 clean and jerks, 185 lb. 30 single-leg squats 10 clean and jerks, 225 lb. 30 single-leg squats 5 clean and jerks, 275 lb. 30 single-leg squats 5 clean and jerks, 315 lb. Time cap: 20 minutes He finished in 14:22 for second place and Jeffrey Adler finished in 12:41.
I mean Rich has finished top 10 every single year except last year... covid year.. not surprising he's there this year with limited equipment. He's the crossfit Swiss army knife
I mean in fairness for the men's side... Rich and Mat have won the open 7 times... so that's a 70% open- games winning percentage. Noah, Vellner, Bailey won the others and finished fairly well..Noah was 15th. It's a pretty good hit rate but not a guarantee.
its expected lol. thats like saying when lebron retires or any athlete great in there sport who retires..... just shuts off the TV and never watches any games or knows whats going on. Now that would be weird.
CF is so weird. They act like there aren't 70 years of knowledge on training high level athletes. Athletes who are in the to 5% when it comes to explosive power (track and field, Olympic level Olifters, skill position American Football players..) tend to be at severe disadvantage when it comes to endurance. A nd Vice Versa. A well known fact in combat sports as well. Dan Bayeley was the fastest nan in CF, and was an average speed athlete at best. The CF regionals select for athletes which are explosive power athletes are average speed and strength athletes at best (amongst world class athletes of course) . So the big guys dropping fast in an endurance event is no suprise at all. It's the price you pay to become a top strength and speedd athlete.
The point of CrossFit is to be the best all rounder possible, not the best specialist possible. So of course they won't be the strongest or fastest in the world. And anyone who specializes wouldn't do well at the CrossFit games because they might win an event, maybe, but the do horrible at everything else.
@@crazyfella777 No question. A specialist will always defeat the CF generalist. A 40 year old weekend warrior runner will crush Fraser in a 10K and will arrive several minutes before him. And this runner will probably not be able to do more than 10 pull ups and has zero chance to get a weight of the ground, that Fraser does 12nds of reps with. You can't beat specific adaption. That is the official CF goal. And it is exactly my point that I don't think that CF is honest or consistent there . Since if you really look at the data, the vast majority of the events are above 2 minutes and below 40minutes and hence are specialist events in an actual very narrow metabolic area. That's a very very arbitrary definition of fitness. And I think the definition was t was reverse engineered : first there were Metcons (relatively short, hard and fun)....then came the definition of fitness. You can have a look at the video of Glasssmann "Prupose of CF" (where he throws around terms like "ordinal or cardinal" or "precision vs accuracy" to intimidate his audience) where he just cuts of the graph at a certain time. Arbitrary. I get it, the next argument will be "Bro, you know nothing about CF. CF is more than Metcons." Probably true. But MetCons are that what is tested. You win the regionals/games if you are good at the WOD type of workouts. Period. And it almost doesn't matter if you suck at running a 5K (which the CF elite official does, compared to a decathlete) or suck at a 100m race or can't jump (which CF athletes are also below a national level decathlete). CF selects for specific athletes. And no, they are not "at least good" in all areas. Not at all.
Mat retires, Rich: “hey guys thanks for moving here and training with me, uh I actually have a chance to be dominant and win individual again so you’re no longer needed here at Mayhem lol”
Congrats Rich, but FRA5ER is the CrossFit BEAST! I’ll care more about Rich when he wins 5+ CrossFit Games. Until then, Fraser rules CrossFit as far as I’m concerned... #HOTBEAST
Only Matt competed against rich and lost. Then rich has a fam and moves to teams and still wins championships. Had Matt beaten rich when both were individuals I'd agree with you. But it never happened. Look it up. Matt still an animal though.
@@brandonphilbrick3180 Mat broke more records, and Rich didn’t have the Director of CrossFit trying to sabotage him. Mat probably could have won 2-3 more, but I would have quit too after Castro’s comments - he should be fired. Mat “slipping” after winning 4 and then a 5th? Never heard the Director of CrossFit bash Rich. Rich was probably licking Castro’s a$$ or helping him with his cornrow braids...😂😂😂 Who cares about team events. I’ve never heard people be like “oh boy, let’s talk about the CrossFit team stats!” 🙄😂
@@NVSTGTE AHAHAHAHA you make me laugh. Still avoiding my comment of Matt competed against Rich and never won. Period. Record's will always be broken. Richs will get broken, Matt's will, and will go on and on with the next of them. Lol get a brain without bias.
@@brandonphilbrick3180 I’m not ignoring what you’re saying I just see it a different way. Mat was a rookie who lost against Rich having not even trained that seriously. Then Mat got serious and won 5 in a row beating Rich and setting new records. But to make you happy I’ll say this...CONGRATULATIONS RICH ON BEING SECOND BEST NEXT TO MAT FRASER!
Or let me put it another way... CONGRATULATIONS RICH FOR WINNING BY ONLY 50 POINTS AGAINST A ROOKIE WHO BARELY PREPARED AND ONLY GOT INTO CROSSFIT AS A WAY TO MAKE SOME EXTRA COLLEGE CASH. FRASER = ULTIMATE BEAST!!
Mat is referring to workout 20.4 in case anyone is interested. Here is the description:
For time:
30 box jumps, 24 in.
15 clean and jerks, 95 lb.
30 box jumps, 24 in.
15 clean and jerks, 135 lb.
30 box jumps, 24 in.
10 clean and jerks, 185 lb.
30 single-leg squats
10 clean and jerks, 225 lb.
30 single-leg squats
5 clean and jerks, 275 lb.
30 single-leg squats
5 clean and jerks, 315 lb.
Time cap: 20 minutes
He finished in 14:22 for second place and Jeffrey Adler finished in 12:41.
I mean Rich has finished top 10 every single year except last year... covid year.. not surprising he's there this year with limited equipment. He's the crossfit Swiss army knife
Klokov is a perfect example of the lifting under fatigue thing
Fronning is a beast!! Fraser is a beast! Bridges is a beast! Everyone is a Fuckn beast !!
Best example this year is Klokov “only” hitting 150kg for 21.4.
Thanks guys for sharing... will be back!!! ☺️💪🏿💪🏿
1:06 Mat quickly skirting from the rich convo lol
Love the podcast! I do wish you'd talk more about the women too. :)
Gotta love it! Keep em coming!
Love these. Keep em coming!
Workout they were talking about
20.4 - For time:
30 box jumps, 24 in.
15 clean and jerks, 95 lb.
30 box jumps, 24 in.
15 clean and jerks, 135 lb.
30 box jumps, 24 in.
10 clean and jerks, 185 lb.
30 single-leg squats
10 clean and jerks, 225 lb.
30 single-leg squats
5 clean and jerks, 275 lb.
30 single-leg squats
5 clean and jerks, 315 lb.
Time cap: 20 minutes
1st - Jeff Adler - 12:41
2ns - Matt Fraser - 14:22
Sevan is hilarious, 😂. All these dudes had me rolling at the end.
Had to actually check that Adler beat Fraser by 2 mins cause that sounded crazy but wow 20.4 he really did! My man was moving
87f
Such a great podcast
We do that as a mayhem athlete where we do a metcon before we go into heavy lifts and man it makes a HUGE difference
What's a mayhem athlete ?
@@jimbob7370 training program that Mayhem has. Love it.
News Flash: Winning the Open is not winning the Games.
I mean in fairness for the men's side... Rich and Mat have won the open 7 times... so that's a 70% open- games winning percentage. Noah, Vellner, Bailey won the others and finished fairly well..Noah was 15th. It's a pretty good hit rate but not a guarantee.
I love the chemistry between these three. Too bad it didn't last.
Hilarious! Great content! 😄👏
Can you please start calling this Mosh w/ Sevan
Workout Mat was referring to was 20.4
He is talking 20.4 - Box jumps, clean and jerks, pistols
Interesting that matt is still like very dialed into the sport.... watching like the open and open announcements
its expected lol. thats like saying when lebron retires or any athlete great in there sport who retires..... just shuts off the TV and never watches any games or knows whats going on. Now that would be weird.
Question: do any of you folks know if sponsors pay bonus to placing in qualifiers, say x$ for top 10, y for top 5, etc for open, etc.?
For sure. I had some sponsorships back in the day that had incentive base payments based off of placings.
When are you making the next one?
Open 20.4 is what Mat is referring to
Haha bro this is just so funny.
CF is so weird. They act like there aren't 70 years of knowledge on training high level athletes. Athletes who are in the to 5% when it comes to explosive power (track and field, Olympic level Olifters, skill position American Football players..) tend to be at severe disadvantage when it comes to endurance. A nd Vice Versa. A well known fact in combat sports as well.
Dan Bayeley was the fastest nan in CF, and was an average speed athlete at best. The CF regionals select for athletes which are explosive power athletes are average speed and strength athletes at best (amongst world class athletes of course) .
So the big guys dropping fast in an endurance event is no suprise at all.
It's the price you pay to become a top strength and speedd athlete.
Ok
The point of CrossFit is to be the best all rounder possible, not the best specialist possible. So of course they won't be the strongest or fastest in the world. And anyone who specializes wouldn't do well at the CrossFit games because they might win an event, maybe, but the do horrible at everything else.
@@crazyfella777 No question. A specialist will always defeat the CF generalist. A 40 year old weekend warrior runner will crush Fraser in a 10K and will arrive several minutes before him. And this runner will probably not be able to do more than 10 pull ups and has zero chance to get a weight of the ground, that Fraser does 12nds of reps with. You can't beat specific adaption.
That is the official CF goal. And it is exactly my point that I don't think that CF is honest or consistent there . Since if you really look at the data, the vast majority of the events are above 2 minutes and below 40minutes and hence are specialist events in an actual very narrow metabolic area. That's a very very arbitrary definition of fitness. And I think the definition was t was reverse engineered : first there were Metcons (relatively short, hard and fun)....then came the definition of fitness. You can have a look at the video of Glasssmann "Prupose of CF" (where he throws around terms like "ordinal or cardinal" or "precision vs accuracy" to intimidate his audience) where he just cuts of the graph at a certain time. Arbitrary.
I get it, the next argument will be "Bro, you know nothing about CF. CF is more than Metcons." Probably true. But MetCons are that what is tested. You win the regionals/games if you are good at the WOD type of workouts. Period.
And it almost doesn't matter if you suck at running a 5K (which the CF elite official does, compared to a decathlete) or suck at a 100m race or can't jump (which CF athletes are also below a national level decathlete).
CF selects for specific athletes. And no, they are not "at least good" in all areas. Not at all.
Mat retires, Rich: “hey guys thanks for moving here and training with me, uh I actually have a chance to be dominant and win individual again so you’re no longer needed here at Mayhem lol”
The old guy is literally ruining this podcast ... please get rid of him ASAP!!!!!
He is rude and definitely a hater.
I didn't catch that vibe at all
You don’t know what you’re talking about
Congrats Rich, but FRA5ER is the CrossFit BEAST! I’ll care more about Rich when he wins 5+ CrossFit Games. Until then, Fraser rules CrossFit as far as I’m concerned...
#HOTBEAST
Only Matt competed against rich and lost. Then rich has a fam and moves to teams and still wins championships. Had Matt beaten rich when both were individuals I'd agree with you. But it never happened. Look it up. Matt still an animal though.
@@brandonphilbrick3180 Mat broke more records, and Rich didn’t have the Director of CrossFit trying to sabotage him. Mat probably could have won 2-3 more, but I would have quit too after Castro’s comments - he should be fired. Mat “slipping” after winning 4 and then a 5th? Never heard the Director of CrossFit bash Rich. Rich was probably licking Castro’s a$$ or helping him with his cornrow braids...😂😂😂
Who cares about team events. I’ve never heard people be like “oh boy, let’s talk about the CrossFit team stats!” 🙄😂
@@NVSTGTE AHAHAHAHA you make me laugh. Still avoiding my comment of Matt competed against Rich and never won. Period. Record's will always be broken. Richs will get broken, Matt's will, and will go on and on with the next of them. Lol get a brain without bias.
@@brandonphilbrick3180 I’m not ignoring what you’re saying I just see it a different way. Mat was a rookie who lost against Rich having not even trained that seriously. Then Mat got serious and won 5 in a row beating Rich and setting new records. But to make you happy I’ll say this...CONGRATULATIONS RICH ON BEING SECOND BEST NEXT TO MAT FRASER!
Or let me put it another way...
CONGRATULATIONS RICH FOR WINNING BY ONLY 50 POINTS AGAINST A ROOKIE WHO BARELY PREPARED AND ONLY GOT INTO CROSSFIT AS A WAY TO MAKE SOME EXTRA COLLEGE CASH.
FRASER = ULTIMATE BEAST!!