I hope you guys enjoy this one! I had a lot of fun making it. (: Also, let me know what you thought about the slightly longer video. I can also extend these to include more stuff in the future. And a picture from the guy I'm interviewing for the next video: i.imgur.com/a7cqhiU.jpg (:
I used to be apart of the old dicing clans General rank in Fishy and winallday cc if you want to do any other sort of input on the old school gambling days back in 2011
So some things to take into account. No matter what game you play you will be at a lose. Generally these sites wouldn't need to rob you because they are already doing that the second you put money down. It has to do with the house edge which gets really complicated at times so just look up a video. But essentially after 1000 hands the player will be down. So even if you win in the short term you will end up at a deficit in the long term. I am sure there is some greedy person who does rig the games but not rigging the games would actually create an environment where more money can potentially be won since people who win quickly often will often work themselves and believe they are somehow skilled at a game of chance this leads to them trying to win big again only to lose then betting more to recoup their loses. This can be done with zero cheating and if you ever watch a roulette table for a few hours you'll see it happen at an alarmingly high rate. Remember the only way to win is to not play and all big wins are temporary the average is losing.
Good video. These dudes aren’t making nearly as much as the OG dicers were, Mr J Rune leader of Smokin Mils pulled 1 Million USD, owner of Cora & Dragon Dyce probably close to it as well
They make even more than those shitty dicers ive seen people betting with 10b there daily. Nobody would trust some Scumbags that much for some 45/55 odds [prob even worse] Their Poker software is not suitable for real Money but its atleast more legit than some 10 cent dice script lmao.
Not really... I use this websites to make faucets extra GP. You really don't have to bet real money. Use this services to your advantage not to lose money
It is true, consumers don't get banned. These consumers are also paying for membership you know, they don't want to ban their income. Only the sellers/services get banned.
In the end the house always wins, not worth it. And these RuneScape websites for it have a lot of fishy stuff going on in them - even more reason not to.
My first experience with a casino was positive, probably the worst to have cuz it encourages you to continue. First time I won big time, second time I lost a little... and the next 10 times I also went even or lost. You're just playing a game and don't even notice it is about your own money anymore. I always went with friends so we always had a nice evening, but in the end... all of us lost money. Same for betting (online) on football matches. I started slowly, made a couple of tens a month and within 3 months I had my best month: +€1500. And then the greed started to kick in, lost over €2k in the month after. Football matches are at least predictable, and taking risks are rewarded. I threw away my Casino card and self banned my online betting accounts for the max duration (2 yrs or something?). Not touching that shit ever again. Not worth it! Edit: I was barely 18 at the time with an income of €100/mo...
jakob 123 Main warning is that you get easily hooked, especially if the first few times went good. RS gp might sound innocent, but you don't get just a 'RS gp gambling addiction'. No, you get an actual 'gambling addiction'. Just be careful and stop right after you start thinking the wrong way (i.e. get greedy and continue to play until you lose all, or already lost a lot and trying to cover up your loses with more gambles --> usually this results in even more loses). Nothing wrong with trying, but please stop right after the first signs of addiction appear.
I like this new format. I still enjoy the information you give and how you give it, also with blocking out the names makes it feel more mysterious. These are after all the shady individuals lurking in runescape. I like the anonymity. I hope it encourages more people to talk to you to provide you with more content because I enjoy watching your videos.
This series is going to be the uprising of your channel, it's similar content to what silentc0re was putting out way back in the day. I think it's super good content, keep it up!
You should use fake names for the unnamed rule breakers... I agree that having a name makes it feel more personal and interesting even if it wasn’t their real name
I find it interesting that they don't ban the consumers as you put it. I'm a WoW player, and for a little while during the previous expansion, the game had a problem with dupers. The dupers would sell in bulk to normal players like myself, and we would then sell them at regular prices for large amounts of profit. The dupers were getting banned fairly quickly, but those like me who purchased them for resale were left unpunished. I eventually got a warning and stopped, and not long after, Blizzard cracked down hard by permanantly banning many of those who continued to buy off them, and still do so now. They discouraged and stifled out the dupers not by banning them, but by making their customers too afraid to buy off them anymore. I think Jagex could find a similar solution.
Jagex making player run games of chance is one of the things that made quit rs2. I was vocal on the forums and fansites saying the best course of action was to make it as secure as staking so that the winner got the money. We did not need a rule for this it is already against the rules to scam and rwt. We did not need a new rule to curtaila gambling activity that no barring any scamming was pretty fun.
Welp, since the Xing video was just taken down, I'll post my thoughts here since they pretty much overlap with gambling anyway. Nobody deserves to be swatted or doxxed, but from my perspective I don't really care if these people face repercussions for their actions. They know full well what they're getting into, and if their community is really that toxic then you make your own bedfellows.
I've bought upwards of a few hundred mil from online sites, never been banned. It's just hard to detect is all. Who's to say that person isn't giving their friend money? It's simply just too big of a hastle to do it and has too big of a risk of banning people who indeed did NOT buy GP.
50% of people don't buy gold, I'd be shocked if it was even 1% of people that did. The vast majority of people don't want to spend real life money to get virtual money, and don't.
Auditors everywhere are pulling their hair out at the thought of total lack of internal controls. These businesses are so vulnerable in that sense. Oh, and the term is "vested interest", not invested. Not trying to embarrass you, just for the general knowledge of knowing. Great video man
I remember those hot and cold days, I made a lot of money in IRC channels, then promptly lost it all lol. I doubt they go hard after people who buy, it would be smarter to go after the sellers.
True gambling as a business is fundamentally, mathematically unsustainable. All the "gambling" you see is 100% rigged in the favor of the company. Granted, it's still possible to win big, but the likelihood of that is so low and a false illusion that causes people to become addicted to the site and keep coming back to empty their wallets.
Jagex reporter that 50% of their player base purchases gold from these sites every month... that’s insane! But I don’t think jagex is banning these people... they know it’s happening but know it would effect the game if they went through with banning them...
Crumb I can confirm that buying gold doesn't get you banned. As you said in a previous video 15-50% of players have bought gold (including me) and it's just not efficient to ban the buyers
i can tell you that jagex really doesn't punish consumers. They can't do that even. the huge majority of this game has been involved with this black market & punishing them all would put jagex out of business
A few of the websites actually do legit drop parties and giveaways that do not require any gambling at all. If Jagex took these webites on it would be difficult to differentiate between the gamblers and the legitimate players that win extra gp in a discord roll.
I really enjoy the videos. I do dislike the stuff that was said about you without asking you directly but keeps the videos coming you will definitely grow.
Man I remember when you would go to any world and people would be playing hot or cold using the flowers you plant and get a random color and there were set rules that was completely legit
If anyone or @Crumb is wondering, I've used these sites for YEARS, probably since 2011 or so, not banned once for transfering money between the websites. Easily traded over 500m worth of osrs gp in todays time. I've also aswell purchased probably over 400m through gold buying websites and never been banned once.
In OSRS my buddy was never punished for buying gold irl, he was legit addicted to mage boxing, spent like 30$ in one night at different intervals, I think 10 at a time probably. I've also done gp transfers personally from rs3 to osrs, and there's no issues. I think jag ex probably just treats it the same as if you had a whale friend who you asked for help / a loan. Imagine being mid level and have your friend chuck you like 20m rs3 for a bond, just to get banned for gold purchasing.
@Crumb I have to say. After the recent accusations against you this change in format in this kind of video was amazing! Not only did you do a great job of not endorsing gambling or any specific person. You also maintained the same intriguing underground speculation that your viewers or me at least love to see in your content. I watched the whole video and was entertained the whole way through. Thank you for catering to your haters but at the same time remaining true to the roots you instill in to your videos. Much love brother, please keep this fascinating content coming.
Jagex themselves said that 50% of the player base buys Gold. There's no way they should go about banhammering all of them. Thiss drive for people to gamble through Runescape has kept it alive and has been a huge revenue source for Jagex. Jagex might see some of this as a necessary evil to keep the game one of the most popular mmos.
A lot better not putting names in. I disagree you were doing it intentionally but it really was just a huge advertisement saying this guy won't scam you lol. Very good video man, this type of content normally does not get me but I enjoy your commentary and reporter like style keep it up man.
It's funny you include irl casinos as "legitimate" when they have been proven time and again to constantly rig their games. And the few games they can't rig, they kick out anyone that does well (either counting cards or just being too lucky)
im not watching anyones pockets. I'm saying they were massive suppliers of gp for rwt. getting rid of a major source of supply = reduce rwt. i dont care if anyone sells gold, i dont even play rs anymore, im just explaining why it was a problem for jagex, not for myself.
Econ 101 - decrease supply = increase price = decrease demand = decrease rwt. I never said there was a shortage of gp to rwt. The opposite way to look at this, hosts make lots of money, they sell lots, the price decreases, now more people are willing to buy, demand increase, rwt increase. can't spell out everything for you kid
Longer is always better! I often honestly skip "informative" type videos if they're too short on youtube because I tend to assume that they're skimming over a lot and that I'll find something with more meat to it later lol.
No problem! And thank you as always for actually reading your comments B-) I know I've probably said that before, but it really does show you care about your channel more than most lol.
I worked for someone who done hot and cold betting, he paid myself and 4 of my friends 15m per 5 hours of standing in the g.e performing the bet or advertising, the person who employed myself 50 accounts with max cash, very lucrative activity
Instead of taking gambling out of the game they should have revamped the duel arena with games of chance and instead of players running the games it would be one of their npc imagine how much gold it would have sink
1:31 the entire purpose of a casino is that the odds are in the casinos favor... all the time no matter what site no matter what currency other wise they would all go bankrupt
They are not making as much as you said, the amount of gp staked does not mean that they received that gold, that's how much gold went through that website meaning that someone else won that gold and they paid it back out. I have gambled on csgo when it was big and my account said I have bet off like $250k no I had about grand or two in credits over the year. Say I get $1 credit and won 14 to 1 odd I have $15 now and I bet it all and lost. That count is up to $30 but really I only lost that $1 entry.originally.
That mil number may or may not be inflated but I find it hard to believe third party runescape gp gambling is a multi-million dollar industry. If it is I have to wonder who the fuck is doing it rather than just gambling cash on a semi-legit site.
We can't know Crumbs intentions for sure, just as he is saying regularly that you can't trust the people he is interviewing. That makes it interesting. Of course we want to believe him, but that is merely faith if you look at the facts.
this is very cool. i prefer the anonymous format i think, there is enough trust built up that it wouldn't be fake and if it was a fake interview people would be able to tell
I hope you guys enjoy this one! I had a lot of fun making it. (: Also, let me know what you thought about the slightly longer video. I can also extend these to include more stuff in the future.
And a picture from the guy I'm interviewing for the next video: i.imgur.com/a7cqhiU.jpg
(:
you should reach out to jagex and get their input on the topics you do, even ex-mods
Hey I just realized you took my suggestion and did a longer video. I love it, good shit brother.
The funny thing i do 20 to 30 accounts by hand with nmz ,that is nothing you can fit 19 accounts on one monitor
damn that dude with all those accounts is a nerd
I used to be apart of the old dicing clans General rank in Fishy and winallday cc if you want to do any other sort of input on the old school gambling days back in 2011
8:00 torvesta exposed..
Sike
So glad you kept doing this series, even after all the hate you got. Definitely one of the best series for runescape at the moment.
Thanks man (:
PREPARE FOR ANOTHER OAKDICE VID LMAO.
Whangadu fuck oakdice ! Fucking leach
“ There’s no guarantee that it’s not rigged in their favor... “
Have you EVER even heard of a casino?
"powerful people" I'd rather call them small criminals
Brugllione the biggest fish in the goldfish bowl
So some things to take into account. No matter what game you play you will be at a lose. Generally these sites wouldn't need to rob you because they are already doing that the second you put money down. It has to do with the house edge which gets really complicated at times so just look up a video. But essentially after 1000 hands the player will be down. So even if you win in the short term you will end up at a deficit in the long term. I am sure there is some greedy person who does rig the games but not rigging the games would actually create an environment where more money can potentially be won since people who win quickly often will often work themselves and believe they are somehow skilled at a game of chance this leads to them trying to win big again only to lose then betting more to recoup their loses. This can be done with zero cheating and if you ever watch a roulette table for a few hours you'll see it happen at an alarmingly high rate.
Remember the only way to win is to not play and all big wins are temporary the average is losing.
Although I personally had no problem with how you were doing the previous videos; I must admit, I like this format more.
Cheers man
Good video. These dudes aren’t making nearly as much as the OG dicers were, Mr J Rune leader of Smokin Mils pulled 1 Million USD, owner of Cora & Dragon Dyce probably close to it as well
tell me about GP
They make even more than those shitty dicers ive seen people betting with 10b there daily. Nobody would trust some Scumbags that much for some 45/55 odds [prob even worse] Their Poker software is not suitable for real Money but its atleast more legit than some 10 cent dice script lmao.
MrNoSleep OSRS ah yes stephen we are the og gamblers
David the original owner of Ikov RSPS pulled close to $2m USD, $1m of it being from V1 Ikov alone
Twist (ddyce) made 500k n wasted on drugs, izinc (bbb) made over 1m, para from cora made around 750k enjoy
The house always wins
Foolish the gamble on one of these websites. The duel area is so nice because there is no house edge.
Very iv never once gambled on osrs. Even the duel arena is to risky for me. I work hard for my gp lol.
Heh. Reminds me of fallout new Vegas.
@@CrumbRS what about the tax on osrs? no HOUSE? are you just another shill!?
Not really... I use this websites to make faucets extra GP. You really don't have to bet real money. Use this services to your advantage not to lose money
It is true, consumers don't get banned. These consumers are also paying for membership you know, they don't want to ban their income. Only the sellers/services get banned.
this guy is the john scarce of the rs community
8:00 Torvesta??
irl casino's are already not that trustworthy... let alone an online casino. Never gamble online, or better: never gamble, ever!
In the end the house always wins, not worth it. And these RuneScape websites for it have a lot of fishy stuff going on in them - even more reason not to.
My first experience with a casino was positive, probably the worst to have cuz it encourages you to continue. First time I won big time, second time I lost a little... and the next 10 times I also went even or lost. You're just playing a game and don't even notice it is about your own money anymore. I always went with friends so we always had a nice evening, but in the end... all of us lost money.
Same for betting (online) on football matches. I started slowly, made a couple of tens a month and within 3 months I had my best month: +€1500. And then the greed started to kick in, lost over €2k in the month after. Football matches are at least predictable, and taking risks are rewarded.
I threw away my Casino card and self banned my online betting accounts for the max duration (2 yrs or something?). Not touching that shit ever again. Not worth it!
Edit: I was barely 18 at the time with an income of €100/mo...
Rick 'RlCK' but after watching this video I wanna gamble my RS gp
Rick 'RlCK' unless, you bet your friend a fiver or something.
jakob 123 Main warning is that you get easily hooked, especially if the first few times went good. RS gp might sound innocent, but you don't get just a 'RS gp gambling addiction'. No, you get an actual 'gambling addiction'. Just be careful and stop right after you start thinking the wrong way (i.e. get greedy and continue to play until you lose all, or already lost a lot and trying to cover up your loses with more gambles --> usually this results in even more loses).
Nothing wrong with trying, but please stop right after the first signs of addiction appear.
4:51 * dramatic zoom in * Ye
(:
I like this new format. I still enjoy the information you give and how you give it, also with blocking out the names makes it feel more mysterious. These are after all the shady individuals lurking in runescape. I like the anonymity. I hope it encourages more people to talk to you to provide you with more content because I enjoy watching your videos.
Thanks man (:
loving these video's despite the controversy this is really entertaining, keep it up :O
Warms my heart, thanks man (:
This series is going to be the uprising of your channel, it's similar content to what silentc0re was putting out way back in the day. I think it's super good content, keep it up!
Thanks man (: it really is, my channel has already grown so much
Love your recent videos and this series in general. Keep it coming, very interesting stuff!
Thanks Josh! (: The positivity goes a long way
You should use fake names for the unnamed rule breakers... I agree that having a name makes it feel more personal and interesting even if it wasn’t their real name
Will do man thanks for the suggestion!
Haters say he owns the sites
Havnt watched this yet, but glad you continued the series even after the oakdice fiasco
Golden rule when it comes to gambling:
Remember, the house always wins
I find it interesting that they don't ban the consumers as you put it.
I'm a WoW player, and for a little while during the previous expansion, the game had a problem with dupers. The dupers would sell in bulk to normal players like myself, and we would then sell them at regular prices for large amounts of profit.
The dupers were getting banned fairly quickly, but those like me who purchased them for resale were left unpunished. I eventually got a warning and stopped, and not long after, Blizzard cracked down hard by permanantly banning many of those who continued to buy off them, and still do so now. They discouraged and stifled out the dupers not by banning them, but by making their customers too afraid to buy off them anymore.
I think Jagex could find a similar solution.
Jagex making player run games of chance is one of the things that made quit rs2. I was vocal on the forums and fansites saying the best course of action was to make it as secure as staking so that the winner got the money. We did not need a rule for this it is already against the rules to scam and rwt. We did not need a new rule to curtaila gambling activity that no barring any scamming was pretty fun.
Welp, since the Xing video was just taken down, I'll post my thoughts here since they pretty much overlap with gambling anyway. Nobody deserves to be swatted or doxxed, but from my perspective I don't really care if these people face repercussions for their actions. They know full well what they're getting into, and if their community is really that toxic then you make your own bedfellows.
I've bought upwards of a few hundred mil from online sites, never been banned. It's just hard to detect is all. Who's to say that person isn't giving their friend money? It's simply just too big of a hastle to do it and has too big of a risk of banning people who indeed did NOT buy GP.
Yo man love your videos can't stop watching them. Keep that shit coming.
Thanks man (:
jagex wont ban people buying gold cause they would have to ban 50% of the player base
TriHard Kappa
I think they should just leave people to their devices.
That the core idea of an open MMO anyway, right?
50% of people don't buy gold, I'd be shocked if it was even 1% of people that did. The vast majority of people don't want to spend real life money to get virtual money, and don't.
@@StreakyBaconMan nigga you think too highly of runescape niggas
@@finnanutyo1153 your username made my day, with that being said fuck yo couth nigga
@@StreakyBaconMan just fyi; A Mod announced that approximately 45% of people rwt
Auditors everywhere are pulling their hair out at the thought of total lack of internal controls. These businesses are so vulnerable in that sense. Oh, and the term is "vested interest", not invested. Not trying to embarrass you, just for the general knowledge of knowing. Great video man
Crumb gonna stay using my old bank clip lmao. Another interesting video man!
Haha I'm glad you don't mind
I remember those hot and cold days, I made a lot of money in IRC channels, then promptly lost it all lol.
I doubt they go hard after people who buy, it would be smarter to go after the sellers.
Haha that's how it always goes
these underground videos are really interesting, keep it up bro
Thanks man (:
True gambling as a business is fundamentally, mathematically unsustainable. All the "gambling" you see is 100% rigged in the favor of the company. Granted, it's still possible to win big, but the likelihood of that is so low and a false illusion that causes people to become addicted to the site and keep coming back to empty their wallets.
Jagex reporter that 50% of their player base purchases gold from these sites every month... that’s insane! But I don’t think jagex is banning these people... they know it’s happening but know it would effect the game if they went through with banning them...
They dont ban buyers also i've never been banned for selling, so they are clearly not doing enough
Haven't really ever played runescape, stopped after the tutorial 10 years ago, but these videos are fascinating.
Crumb I can confirm that buying gold doesn't get you banned. As you said in a previous video 15-50% of players have bought gold (including me) and it's just not efficient to ban the buyers
Oliver Frost they don't take small amounts of RWT as seriously anymore
Not just that. Jagex is also guilty of this. You can buy a bond and sell it for gp.
Dude I love your channel, you’ve been coming out with really great content!
Thanks man (:
@crumb where did your other video just go?
i can tell you that jagex really doesn't punish consumers. They can't do that even. the huge majority of this game has been involved with this black market & punishing them all would put jagex out of business
A few of the websites actually do legit drop parties and giveaways that do not require any gambling at all. If Jagex took these webites on it would be difficult to differentiate between the gamblers and the legitimate players that win extra gp in a discord roll.
Other players: (uses the dice for gambiling therefore getting them banned)
Me who just wants to play dnd in runescape: well fuck
Monka I went to bed watching the staking bot video then woke up to it being unavailable....
I really enjoy the videos. I do dislike the stuff that was said about you without asking you directly but keeps the videos coming you will definitely grow.
Take it from someone who’s bought gold since 2006, they do not ban for buying gold.
The term is vested interest, not invested interest ;)
Man I remember when you would go to any world and people would be playing hot or cold using the flowers you plant and get a random color and there were set rules that was completely legit
"invested interests"
I remember the day I gave a fuck about running or escaping. Long time, still haven't escaped.
Love these videos man, keep it up
Glad to hear man the positivity keeps me going! I appreciate it!
I know someone who was banned for buying gold. they had never sold gold.
If anyone or @Crumb is wondering, I've used these sites for YEARS, probably since 2011 or so, not banned once for transfering money between the websites. Easily traded over 500m worth of osrs gp in todays time.
I've also aswell purchased probably over 400m through gold buying websites and never been banned once.
I can across an awesome collection of videos that may help on Alchemy Hasty Fixer
In OSRS my buddy was never punished for buying gold irl, he was legit addicted to mage boxing, spent like 30$ in one night at different intervals, I think 10 at a time probably. I've also done gp transfers personally from rs3 to osrs, and there's no issues. I think jag ex probably just treats it the same as if you had a whale friend who you asked for help / a loan. Imagine being mid level and have your friend chuck you like 20m rs3 for a bond, just to get banned for gold purchasing.
I’ve bought $1,500 worth of OSRS gold with zero issues and 1M is 0.85
What happend to the staking video bro?
Why did you delete it?
got paid to delete it
If this is true it really undermines his integrity.
@Crumb I have to say. After the recent accusations against you this change in format in this kind of video was amazing! Not only did you do a great job of not endorsing gambling or any specific person. You also maintained the same intriguing underground speculation that your viewers or me at least love to see in your content. I watched the whole video and was entertained the whole way through. Thank you for catering to your haters but at the same time remaining true to the roots you instill in to your videos. Much love brother, please keep this fascinating content coming.
What a wonderful comment to wake up to, thanks man you made my day (:
Jagex themselves said that 50% of the player base buys Gold. There's no way they should go about banhammering all of them. Thiss drive for people to gamble through Runescape has kept it alive and has been a huge revenue source for Jagex. Jagex might see some of this as a necessary evil to keep the game one of the most popular mmos.
that's like finding a blackjack dealer that's on his own on the street and betting your life savings
I haven't been banned from buying gold personally and I've spent tons of money doing it throughout the years
Dragondyce is still the biggest gambling community
remember from fallout new vegas it has a good message if you side with mr house "the house always win"
A lot better not putting names in. I disagree you were doing it intentionally but it really was just a huge advertisement saying this guy won't scam you lol. Very good video man, this type of content normally does not get me but I enjoy your commentary and reporter like style keep it up man.
It's funny you include irl casinos as "legitimate" when they have been proven time and again to constantly rig their games. And the few games they can't rig, they kick out anyone that does well (either counting cards or just being too lucky)
I think gambling wasn't a problem in the game, it was just a faster form of staking. The problem was the scamming.
no it was a problem. the people who were hosting the gambling were selling all the gp. they were making like 500m / day.
Djme2 stop watching people's pockets... As a service it's fine. P.S. people still sell gold regardless
im not watching anyones pockets. I'm saying they were massive suppliers of gp for rwt. getting rid of a major source of supply = reduce rwt. i dont care if anyone sells gold, i dont even play rs anymore, im just explaining why it was a problem for jagex, not for myself.
Djme2 there has never been a shortage of GP to RWT with, all that happened was who was getting the money changed.
Econ 101 - decrease supply = increase price = decrease demand = decrease rwt. I never said there was a shortage of gp to rwt. The opposite way to look at this, hosts make lots of money, they sell lots, the price decreases, now more people are willing to buy, demand increase, rwt increase. can't spell out everything for you kid
Most of these Runescape gambling websites very closely resemble old CSGO Gambling websites.
A lot are using the exact same code too that's why :p
Longer is always better! I often honestly skip "informative" type videos if they're too short on youtube because I tend to assume that they're skimming over a lot and that I'll find something with more meat to it later lol.
Glad to hear (:
No problem! And thank you as always for actually reading your comments B-) I know I've probably said that before, but it really does show you care about your channel more than most lol.
(: I think it's important to be active as much as I can on my channel
runescape even said 50% of your player base buy gold, so they would not ban that many people.
I worked for someone who done hot and cold betting, he paid myself and 4 of my friends 15m per 5 hours of standing in the g.e performing the bet or advertising, the person who employed myself 50 accounts with max cash, very lucrative activity
Instead of taking gambling out of the game they should have revamped the duel arena with games of chance and instead of players running the games it would be one of their npc imagine how much gold it would have sink
Kinda surprised that you cover a lot of "underground" shit on osrs and only have 14k subs.... This stuff is pretty fascinating to me
They likely made A LOT more than that if you used RS3 buying ratios and not OSRS ratios.
I went from 25m to 150m twice then lost it all... way better to do it on RuneScape than in real life
True man, same for anyone that has ever gotta scammed - a very valuable lesson to learn on a game before it happens in real life
Logo makes me happy
+Crumb dude what happened to the odd stakers video? i wanted to watch that stuff is interested and almost no one talks about it
I feel like dice bags would be way better for the game
1:31 the entire purpose of a casino is that the odds are in the casinos favor... all the time no matter what site no matter what currency other wise they would all go bankrupt
I love flowers and can't find black or white flowers from mithril seeds apparently because of gambers :(
Ayy cheeky bit of visual studio
Lmfao
Keep up the good work man, you're like the Louis Theroux of runescape
i miss dicing in pre eoc, i remember winning a divine off stokenut on steam right before he got banned for RWT lmao
What is video you used @6:25?
Well the thing is that 1.5m is not quit true. They have a lot of giveaways every week. They have been doing a lot of giveaways for all those years.
I love your videos dude. Keep them up :)
Thanks Logan keeps me making them!
What is the icon below the run
Why did you delete your last video??? i was watching it earlier
They are not making as much as you said, the amount of gp staked does not mean that they received that gold, that's how much gold went through that website meaning that someone else won that gold and they paid it back out. I have gambled on csgo when it was big and my account said I have bet off like $250k no I had about grand or two in credits over the year. Say I get $1 credit and won 14 to 1 odd I have $15 now and I bet it all and lost. That count is up to $30 but really I only lost that $1 entry.originally.
That mil number may or may not be inflated but I find it hard to believe third party runescape gp gambling is a multi-million dollar industry. If it is I have to wonder who the fuck is doing it rather than just gambling cash on a semi-legit site.
might help if you declared your classes and methods, nice vid tho
Only in the states a consumer gets fucked over.
We can't know Crumbs intentions for sure, just as he is saying regularly that you can't trust the people he is interviewing. That makes it interesting.
Of course we want to believe him, but that is merely faith if you look at the facts.
Regardless it's entertaining.
Bought over 1b in gp over the years never been banned
Lost hundreds of irl dollars buying RS gold to gamble with... Lost it all never got banned though
Hey man, might be worth redoing this video. Your new stuff is much better audio edit wise.
I feel like once you ban consumers the playerbase drops and makes the game look bad.
they wont ban the consumers cuz they are the real player of the game even if they take easyways
Bro why did you delete the xing vid
this is very cool. i prefer the anonymous format i think, there is enough trust built up that it wouldn't be fake and if it was a fake interview people would be able to tell
Thanks man I'm glad to hear
Not to mention any names......CEO return of wilderness
fyi it's a "vested interest" not an "invested interest"
there's allways someone -.-