No, a 1- F -2 why do you Americans count wheels instead of axles? I have never seen an 1-3 3 over there and you cannot determine how many powered axles those engine have. We classify powered axles with letters and unpowered front or pony trucks with numbers. Seems more logic to me.
In the US we had the UP 9000 series 4-12-2 locomotives. They actually share a lot with this tank engine, especially the 3 cyl models and the lateral motion devices to help on curves
Hi! Thank you for the interesting info! That locomotive (46.03) is a 2-cylinder model, but from this type there are also 3-cyl models. We have a preserved 3-cyl model, but it needs to be restored in order to be a operating museum locomotive.
They were built for the coal traffic from Bobov Dol and Pernik to Sofia. The original batch including 46.03 were built by HCP in Poznan, Poland. They were 2 cylinder machines. Later during WW II a second batch were built by BMAG in Berlin. They were 3 cylinder machines. The BZD Class 46 locomotives were the largest tank locomotives ever built. However they were not the heaviest! That accolade was held by an American 2-6-6T on the New York New Haven & Hartford Rail Road. In the late 1970's I was privileged to see them in service. Amazing Locomotives!
@@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 There's only 1 set of cylinders, all 12 driving wheels are connected and powered by the same cylinders. If there were 2 sets of 6 driving wheels each side, then it would be a 2-6-6-4.
middle two sets of wheels are flangeless i think. that's how they get it round the curves! what a beast. must have been stored well if it only took a couple of years to get it going again. just dont look under the boiler cladding (asbestos galore!!)
what a beast of a loco, here in the UK we had some heavy frieght tank engines, though they were only measly 2-8-0 (1-4-0) and 2-8-2 (1-4-1) locomotives built by the GWR
What kind of bends can this locomotive go through without popping out of it's track? Or is there some flexibility in those 6 axels that I'm not seeing?
The middle two wheels doesn't have flanges (rims), that's helping for the sharp curves. I'm not technically familiar, but there should be some minimal flexibility on the other wheels.
It is a locomotive without a tender. We say for this type of steam locomotives "tank" engines, because the water tanks and the coal bunker are on the locomotive, not on a separate car (tender). In Europe it is common to count the axles of the locomotive, not the wheels. That why is 1-6-2.
@@IvoRadoev To make things complicated in German a tank engine is called "Tenderlok" and a tender engine is a "Schlepptenderlok". This is beacause "Tender" means the room to store coal and water. A Tenderlok (tank engine) carries coal and water on board, a Schlepptenderlok pulls a wagon for coal and water - the "Tender" is pulled and "to pull" is "schleppen"
@@heikosteffens1661 In Bulgarian we also called the tank engines Tender locomotives (тендерни локомотиви). But as "tender" in English is meaning something completely different, I can't write it, because most of the people won't understand what I mean. As you can see, there are persons, which even can't understand the meaning of "tank engine". :)
@@IvoRadoev Yes - "tender" in English has another meaning if used as adjective. Elvis Presley did not think of a locomotive that asks it´s coal wagon to be friendly when he sang: "Love me tender" (not: "Love me, tender" - the comma is important ;-))
@@bartekszymanski5897 Hast Recht!Man sieht es auf dem Fabrikschild am Zylinder. Irgendwie sieht sie doch sehr deutsch aus,denke mal die wurde mal im Auftrag gebaut, oder ?
2-6-6-4/2-12-4 or in European classification is 1-6-2 (the axle numbers) while Whyte notation counts the wheels). It's all on Wikipedia;-). Counting the axles makes more sense, since there are no WHEELS, but axles with wheels fixed on them!
@@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 European classification is 1´F2´... 1-6-2 is only used in France (as 162) and the UK. Swiss classification would be 6/9 (9 axles in total, 6 of them drivers - "six of nine" as Trekkies would say :-)). A 2-6-6-4 would be a Mallet or something like that, in UIC a (1´C)´C2´ or maybe a 1´C(C2´)´
A 2-12-4.
TANK ENGINE?!
I don’t know what goes on over there in Europe, but I love it!
The Russians even had a 4-14-4 Tender engine :-)
@@heikosteffens1661 yeah but it barely worked so it doesn't count
@@yeoldeseawitch yep as anything else over there😂😂😂😂😂
No, a 1- F -2 why do you Americans count wheels instead of axles? I have never seen an 1-3 3 over there and you cannot determine how many powered axles those engine have. We classify powered axles with letters and unpowered front or pony trucks with numbers. Seems more logic to me.
@@steffenrosmus9177 you have to remember that americans are a very visual learning species. They cant comprehend higher meaning beyond what they see.
In the US we had the UP 9000 series 4-12-2 locomotives. They actually share a lot with this tank engine, especially the 3 cyl models and the lateral motion devices to help on curves
Hi! Thank you for the interesting info! That locomotive (46.03) is a 2-cylinder model, but from this type there are also 3-cyl models. We have a preserved 3-cyl model, but it needs to be restored in order to be a operating museum locomotive.
@@IvoRadoev is it the same as the one in the railroad museum at Ruse ?
@@Please-help-me-i-an-death-lol No, in the railway museum in Ruse there isn't such kind of steam locomotive.
@@IvoRadoev yeah... i checked images and found it have 8 driving wheels i think and looked totally different with its green smoke deflector. Thank you
They were built for the coal traffic from Bobov Dol and Pernik to Sofia.
The original batch including 46.03 were built by HCP in Poznan, Poland. They were 2 cylinder machines. Later during WW II a second batch were built by BMAG in Berlin. They were 3 cylinder machines.
The BZD Class 46 locomotives were the largest tank locomotives ever built. However they were not the heaviest! That accolade was held by an American 2-6-6T on the New York New Haven & Hartford Rail Road.
In the late 1970's I was privileged to see them in service. Amazing Locomotives!
Is the Garratt classed as a tank locomotive?
unusual to see a 2-12-4 steam tank locomotive
anna jeannette Dixon Germans don't use the Whyte Classification, but in the US, it would be a 2-12-4.
actually it would be a 2-6-6-4
@@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 There's only 1 set of cylinders, all 12 driving wheels are connected and powered by the same cylinders. If there were 2 sets of 6 driving wheels each side, then it would be a 2-6-6-4.
The U.S. version was the 9000 class and operated on the straighter railways for obvious reasons. Curves were its major weakness.
@@jordanalexander615 It’s preserved and unlikely to run on any tracks like u said the turns and it’s wheels
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Made in Cegielski
HCP Poznań
Beautiful machine
It's polish machine ! (from Poland before II world war)
Correct. The later three cylinder machines came from BMAG.
what an ABSOLUTE UNIT
middle two sets of wheels are flangeless i think. that's how they get it round the curves! what a beast. must have been stored well if it only took a couple of years to get it going again. just dont look under the boiler cladding (asbestos galore!!)
Apart from the flangeless wheels, the two front axles are in a Krauss-Helmholz truck, and the sixth coupled axle has a lateral motion device.
Awesome locomotive! Thank you for the video.
what a beast of a loco, here in the UK we had some heavy frieght tank engines, though they were only measly 2-8-0 (1-4-0) and 2-8-2 (1-4-1) locomotives built by the GWR
The decapod😋
@@deanwilliams5466 A Decapod is a 1´E (or 2-10-0), not a 1´D (or 2-8-0); the 1´D is nicknamed "Consolidation"... The 1´D1´ (2-8-2) is called Mikado
@@heikosteffens1661 the decapod is a heavy freight British tank engine which was 0 10 0
@@deanwilliams5466 In the US "Decapod" denotes a 2-10-0
@@heikosteffens1661 I'm on about the British tank engine which was the first ten coupled loco ever built
The tank engine cousin of the UP 9000 has been found.
Nice but strange to see a kettle do modern workings
@4:10 looks like anywhere in Southern California
Simply put
AN ABSOLUTE UNIT
What kind of bends can this locomotive go through without popping out of it's track?
Or is there some flexibility in those 6 axels that I'm not seeing?
The middle two wheels doesn't have flanges (rims), that's helping for the sharp curves. I'm not technically familiar, but there should be some minimal flexibility on the other wheels.
@@IvoRadoev Thank you very much
Flangeless wheels according to the Gölsdorff-system
@@DavidWilson-hh2gn Or the Württembergian class K (later German class 59), a 1´F or 2-12-0
The first and sixth can move laterally a bit for curves and the third and fourth are flangeless. Enough to get down to a curve radius of 180m.
The 9000 has three cylinders and the bulgarian 46 class 2-12-4 has two cylinders
Fat controller - time to exercise ..... wait! Where is my steroids ?
Sees this abomination outside his house *
Fat controller - never mind
New wheel arrangement 2-12-4
2-12-4 tank engine? what?
It is a locomotive without a tender. We say for this type of steam locomotives "tank" engines, because the water tanks and the coal bunker are on the locomotive, not on a separate car (tender). In Europe it is common to count the axles of the locomotive, not the wheels. That why is 1-6-2.
@@IvoRadoev To be exact by using UIC classification: it is a 1´F2´... :-)
@@IvoRadoev To make things complicated in German a tank engine is called "Tenderlok" and a tender engine is a "Schlepptenderlok". This is beacause "Tender" means the room to store coal and water. A Tenderlok (tank engine) carries coal and water on board, a Schlepptenderlok pulls a wagon for coal and water - the "Tender" is pulled and "to pull" is "schleppen"
@@heikosteffens1661 In Bulgarian we also called the tank engines Tender locomotives (тендерни локомотиви). But as "tender" in English is meaning something completely different, I can't write it, because most of the people won't understand what I mean. As you can see, there are persons, which even can't understand the meaning of "tank engine". :)
@@IvoRadoev Yes - "tender" in English has another meaning if used as adjective. Elvis Presley did not think of a locomotive that asks it´s coal wagon to be friendly when he sang: "Love me tender" (not: "Love me, tender" - the comma is important ;-))
Amazing loco, great footage! I there a TTscale model version available?
Unfortunately I am not aware of any models of this locomotive.
No there is not
UP 9000 series 4-12-2
Super Lock-gebaut in Deutschland.
es wurde nicht in Deutschland, sondern in Polen hergestellt. Dies ist HCP 1-6-2 „Bulgar“, nur 12 davon wurden für die bulgarische Eisenbahn gebaut

@@bartekszymanski5897 Hast Recht!Man sieht es auf dem Fabrikschild am Zylinder. Irgendwie sieht sie doch sehr deutsch aus,denke mal die wurde mal im Auftrag gebaut, oder ?
So wurde es auf Bestellung gefertigt
Schade, dass kein Unternehmen, weder Piko noch Roco, ein Modell dieser Lokomotive im Maßstab h0 herausgebracht hat
@@bartekszymanski5897 Ja,die als Modell wäre super!
the biggest steam loco was the"big boy" made from Alco,,,with 7000 hp approx.and 70 tons effective traction force.
I know the "Big Boy" is the biggest steam loco in the world. This is the biggest tank steam loco in Europe. Read carefully the description. :)
Big Boy was 6200 HP. The Y6B had greater tractive effort and 5600 HP. The Allegheny was 7600 HP, but less tractive effort.
Now that's a tank engine bud
And I thought American steamers were the most rugged
TOLLER FILM 😃
This loco,,,may have 4000hp...is huge.
The grate area suggests something around 2000 HP maximum. 10 sq.m would get you 4000-5000 HP.
Compared to the UP BIG BOY's traction effort of 602 kN the 46.03 is 381.
👍😄паравози са жуви!
2 -6-6 2- traction system-
2-6-6-4/2-12-4 or in European classification is 1-6-2 (the axle numbers) while Whyte notation counts the wheels). It's all on Wikipedia;-). Counting the axles makes more sense, since there are no WHEELS, but axles with wheels fixed on them!
@@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 European classification is 1´F2´... 1-6-2 is only used in France (as 162) and the UK. Swiss classification would be 6/9 (9 axles in total, 6 of them drivers - "six of nine" as Trekkies would say :-)). A 2-6-6-4 would be a Mallet or something like that, in UIC a (1´C)´C2´ or maybe a 1´C(C2´)´
It's like Javanic locomotive 😅
0-12-0 Locomotive