Steam trips, March 2017 - Locomotive 46.03

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  • @mercury7590
    @mercury7590 6 років тому +41

    A 2-12-4.
    TANK ENGINE?!
    I don’t know what goes on over there in Europe, but I love it!

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +1

      The Russians even had a 4-14-4 Tender engine :-)

    • @yeoldeseawitch
      @yeoldeseawitch Рік тому +3

      ​@@heikosteffens1661 yeah but it barely worked so it doesn't count

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 Рік тому +1

      ​@@yeoldeseawitch yep as anything else over there😂😂😂😂😂

    • @steffenrosmus9177
      @steffenrosmus9177 Рік тому +2

      No, a 1- F -2 why do you Americans count wheels instead of axles? I have never seen an 1-3 3 over there and you cannot determine how many powered axles those engine have. We classify powered axles with letters and unpowered front or pony trucks with numbers. Seems more logic to me.

    • @yeoldeseawitch
      @yeoldeseawitch Рік тому

      @@steffenrosmus9177 you have to remember that americans are a very visual learning species. They cant comprehend higher meaning beyond what they see.

  • @wildcatindustries8030
    @wildcatindustries8030 2 роки тому +8

    In the US we had the UP 9000 series 4-12-2 locomotives. They actually share a lot with this tank engine, especially the 3 cyl models and the lateral motion devices to help on curves

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  2 роки тому +4

      Hi! Thank you for the interesting info! That locomotive (46.03) is a 2-cylinder model, but from this type there are also 3-cyl models. We have a preserved 3-cyl model, but it needs to be restored in order to be a operating museum locomotive.

    • @Please-help-me-i-an-death-lol
      @Please-help-me-i-an-death-lol 10 місяців тому

      ​@@IvoRadoev is it the same as the one in the railroad museum at Ruse ?

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Please-help-me-i-an-death-lol No, in the railway museum in Ruse there isn't such kind of steam locomotive.

    • @Please-help-me-i-an-death-lol
      @Please-help-me-i-an-death-lol 10 місяців тому

      @@IvoRadoev yeah... i checked images and found it have 8 driving wheels i think and looked totally different with its green smoke deflector. Thank you

  • @nicholaskelly6375
    @nicholaskelly6375 3 роки тому +12

    They were built for the coal traffic from Bobov Dol and Pernik to Sofia.
    The original batch including 46.03 were built by HCP in Poznan, Poland. They were 2 cylinder machines. Later during WW II a second batch were built by BMAG in Berlin. They were 3 cylinder machines.
    The BZD Class 46 locomotives were the largest tank locomotives ever built. However they were not the heaviest! That accolade was held by an American 2-6-6T on the New York New Haven & Hartford Rail Road.
    In the late 1970's I was privileged to see them in service. Amazing Locomotives!

    • @nigelslade5276
      @nigelslade5276 8 місяців тому

      Is the Garratt classed as a tank locomotive?

  • @annajeannettedixon2453
    @annajeannettedixon2453 7 років тому +32

    unusual to see a 2-12-4 steam tank locomotive

    • @VASHXKALIBER
      @VASHXKALIBER 6 років тому +3

      anna jeannette Dixon Germans don't use the Whyte Classification, but in the US, it would be a 2-12-4.

    • @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998
      @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 6 років тому

      actually it would be a 2-6-6-4

    • @tomwalker9497
      @tomwalker9497 5 років тому +3

      @@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 There's only 1 set of cylinders, all 12 driving wheels are connected and powered by the same cylinders. If there were 2 sets of 6 driving wheels each side, then it would be a 2-6-6-4.

    • @jordanalexander615
      @jordanalexander615 4 роки тому +2

      The U.S. version was the 9000 class and operated on the straighter railways for obvious reasons. Curves were its major weakness.

    • @ArnavKhode
      @ArnavKhode 3 роки тому +1

      @@jordanalexander615 It’s preserved and unlikely to run on any tracks like u said the turns and it’s wheels

  • @zweitaktdiesel2708
    @zweitaktdiesel2708 6 років тому +15

    👍
    Made in Cegielski
    HCP Poznań
    Beautiful machine

    • @jankazimierz9848
      @jankazimierz9848 5 років тому

      It's polish machine ! (from Poland before II world war)

    • @nicholaskelly6375
      @nicholaskelly6375 3 роки тому +1

      Correct. The later three cylinder machines came from BMAG.

  • @overpoweredsteamproduction513
    @overpoweredsteamproduction513 2 роки тому +3

    what an ABSOLUTE UNIT

  • @bobcannell7603
    @bobcannell7603 6 років тому +7

    middle two sets of wheels are flangeless i think. that's how they get it round the curves! what a beast. must have been stored well if it only took a couple of years to get it going again. just dont look under the boiler cladding (asbestos galore!!)

    • @zerokei9403
      @zerokei9403 4 роки тому +1

      Apart from the flangeless wheels, the two front axles are in a Krauss-Helmholz truck, and the sixth coupled axle has a lateral motion device.

  • @TheRazzzzzzzz
    @TheRazzzzzzzz 5 років тому +3

    Awesome locomotive! Thank you for the video.

  • @NovaCoronaSolarisBlast
    @NovaCoronaSolarisBlast 7 років тому +7

    what a beast of a loco, here in the UK we had some heavy frieght tank engines, though they were only measly 2-8-0 (1-4-0) and 2-8-2 (1-4-1) locomotives built by the GWR

    • @deanwilliams5466
      @deanwilliams5466 3 роки тому

      The decapod😋

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому

      @@deanwilliams5466 A Decapod is a 1´E (or 2-10-0), not a 1´D (or 2-8-0); the 1´D is nicknamed "Consolidation"... The 1´D1´ (2-8-2) is called Mikado

    • @deanwilliams5466
      @deanwilliams5466 3 роки тому

      @@heikosteffens1661 the decapod is a heavy freight British tank engine which was 0 10 0

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому

      @@deanwilliams5466 In the US "Decapod" denotes a 2-10-0

    • @deanwilliams5466
      @deanwilliams5466 3 роки тому

      @@heikosteffens1661 I'm on about the British tank engine which was the first ten coupled loco ever built

  • @charlieray2751
    @charlieray2751 3 роки тому +5

    The tank engine cousin of the UP 9000 has been found.

  • @deanwilliams5466
    @deanwilliams5466 3 роки тому +2

    Nice but strange to see a kettle do modern workings

  • @scorekeepn
    @scorekeepn 6 років тому +3

    @4:10 looks like anywhere in Southern California

  • @Mrfrenchy6883
    @Mrfrenchy6883 3 роки тому +4

    Simply put
    AN ABSOLUTE UNIT

  • @goliathprojects7354
    @goliathprojects7354 3 роки тому +2

    What kind of bends can this locomotive go through without popping out of it's track?
    Or is there some flexibility in those 6 axels that I'm not seeing?

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  3 роки тому +2

      The middle two wheels doesn't have flanges (rims), that's helping for the sharp curves. I'm not technically familiar, but there should be some minimal flexibility on the other wheels.

    • @goliathprojects7354
      @goliathprojects7354 3 роки тому +1

      @@IvoRadoev Thank you very much

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому

      Flangeless wheels according to the Gölsdorff-system

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому

      @@DavidWilson-hh2gn Or the Württembergian class K (later German class 59), a 1´F or 2-12-0

    • @Varinki
      @Varinki 6 місяців тому +1

      The first and sixth can move laterally a bit for curves and the third and fourth are flangeless. Enough to get down to a curve radius of 180m.

  • @Scrat-hp2wl
    @Scrat-hp2wl Рік тому +1

    The 9000 has three cylinders and the bulgarian 46 class 2-12-4 has two cylinders

  • @teerthrajtirpude1950
    @teerthrajtirpude1950 Рік тому +2

    Fat controller - time to exercise ..... wait! Where is my steroids ?
    Sees this abomination outside his house *
    Fat controller - never mind

  • @RalphTheMalaysianRailfan618
    @RalphTheMalaysianRailfan618 Рік тому +1

    New wheel arrangement 2-12-4

  • @o-tuathail
    @o-tuathail 4 роки тому +3

    2-12-4 tank engine? what?

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  4 роки тому +2

      It is a locomotive without a tender. We say for this type of steam locomotives "tank" engines, because the water tanks and the coal bunker are on the locomotive, not on a separate car (tender). In Europe it is common to count the axles of the locomotive, not the wheels. That why is 1-6-2.

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +1

      @@IvoRadoev To be exact by using UIC classification: it is a 1´F2´... :-)

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +2

      @@IvoRadoev To make things complicated in German a tank engine is called "Tenderlok" and a tender engine is a "Schlepptenderlok". This is beacause "Tender" means the room to store coal and water. A Tenderlok (tank engine) carries coal and water on board, a Schlepptenderlok pulls a wagon for coal and water - the "Tender" is pulled and "to pull" is "schleppen"

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  3 роки тому +3

      @@heikosteffens1661 In Bulgarian we also called the tank engines Tender locomotives (тендерни локомотиви). But as "tender" in English is meaning something completely different, I can't write it, because most of the people won't understand what I mean. As you can see, there are persons, which even can't understand the meaning of "tank engine". :)

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому +1

      @@IvoRadoev Yes - "tender" in English has another meaning if used as adjective. Elvis Presley did not think of a locomotive that asks it´s coal wagon to be friendly when he sang: "Love me tender" (not: "Love me, tender" - the comma is important ;-))

  • @chiefchook
    @chiefchook 7 років тому +2

    Amazing loco, great footage! I there a TTscale model version available?

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  7 років тому +1

      Unfortunately I am not aware of any models of this locomotive.

    • @christtking894
      @christtking894 3 роки тому

      No there is not

  • @marceloazzirabelo
    @marceloazzirabelo Рік тому +1

    UP 9000 series 4-12-2

  • @GünterUllrichClausnitzer
    @GünterUllrichClausnitzer 10 місяців тому +1

    Super Lock-gebaut in Deutschland.

    • @bartekszymanski5897
      @bartekszymanski5897 9 місяців тому

      es wurde nicht in Deutschland, sondern in Polen hergestellt. Dies ist HCP 1-6-2 „Bulgar“, nur 12 davon wurden für die bulgarische Eisenbahn gebaut

    • @GünterUllrichClausnitzer
      @GünterUllrichClausnitzer 9 місяців тому

      @@bartekszymanski5897 Hast Recht!Man sieht es auf dem Fabrikschild am Zylinder. Irgendwie sieht sie doch sehr deutsch aus,denke mal die wurde mal im Auftrag gebaut, oder ?

    • @bartekszymanski5897
      @bartekszymanski5897 9 місяців тому

      So wurde es auf Bestellung gefertigt

    • @bartekszymanski5897
      @bartekszymanski5897 9 місяців тому

      Schade, dass kein Unternehmen, weder Piko noch Roco, ein Modell dieser Lokomotive im Maßstab h0 herausgebracht hat

    • @GünterUllrichClausnitzer
      @GünterUllrichClausnitzer 9 місяців тому +1

      @@bartekszymanski5897 Ja,die als Modell wäre super!

  • @nomon95
    @nomon95 7 років тому +2

    the biggest steam loco was the"big boy" made from Alco,,,with 7000 hp approx.and 70 tons effective traction force.

    • @IvoRadoev
      @IvoRadoev  7 років тому +5

      I know the "Big Boy" is the biggest steam loco in the world. This is the biggest tank steam loco in Europe. Read carefully the description. :)

    • @paullangford8179
      @paullangford8179 7 років тому

      Big Boy was 6200 HP. The Y6B had greater tractive effort and 5600 HP. The Allegheny was 7600 HP, but less tractive effort.

  • @sirbarongaming2138
    @sirbarongaming2138 5 місяців тому

    Now that's a tank engine bud

  • @theextremeanimator4721
    @theextremeanimator4721 5 років тому +1

    And I thought American steamers were the most rugged

  • @mikecuper7416
    @mikecuper7416 6 років тому +1

    TOLLER FILM 😃

  • @nomon95
    @nomon95 7 років тому

    This loco,,,may have 4000hp...is huge.

    • @paullangford8179
      @paullangford8179 7 років тому

      The grate area suggests something around 2000 HP maximum. 10 sq.m would get you 4000-5000 HP.

    • @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998
      @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 6 років тому

      Compared to the UP BIG BOY's traction effort of 602 kN the 46.03 is 381.

  • @trainmodel1873
    @trainmodel1873 7 років тому

    👍😄паравози са жуви!

  • @nomon95
    @nomon95 7 років тому +1

    2 -6-6 2- traction system-

    • @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998
      @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 6 років тому

      2-6-6-4/2-12-4 or in European classification is 1-6-2 (the axle numbers) while Whyte notation counts the wheels). It's all on Wikipedia;-). Counting the axles makes more sense, since there are no WHEELS, but axles with wheels fixed on them!

    • @heikosteffens1661
      @heikosteffens1661 3 роки тому

      @@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 European classification is 1´F2´... 1-6-2 is only used in France (as 162) and the UK. Swiss classification would be 6/9 (9 axles in total, 6 of them drivers - "six of nine" as Trekkies would say :-)). A 2-6-6-4 would be a Mallet or something like that, in UIC a (1´C)´C2´ or maybe a 1´C(C2´)´

  • @Hansthess
    @Hansthess Рік тому

    It's like Javanic locomotive 😅

  • @marceloazzirabelo
    @marceloazzirabelo Рік тому +1

    0-12-0 Locomotive