"We carry a firearm because we're hard to kill. But we need knowledge of the law, so that we're hard to convict." Had me hooked. Well spoken. Edit: Subbed!
The concealed carrier mistakenly shooting the store owner situation warrants a educational video all on it's own. Definitely something to process before you get involved. Great and informative video.
Yeah, for real. Lotta details to unpack, I'm sure. There's likelya thousand other instances where good intentions paved the road to hell for a family. HAving the whole story dissected would be a solid and solemn reminder to stay sharp and use the firearm as a last resort, not just a convenient option. Dunno the full story, but I feel bad for the guy that shot as well ast the store owner. There's probably another instance of someone hesitating to help and for this reason and having to watch an innocent die just because they couldn't get the facts in time. All we can do is the best we can do. We would do well to reserve our judgements lest we fail just as badly trying to be a hero or something.
I'm glad this mentions the proportionality. Some of the best videos I've seen are the ones reminding a CCW that you have a supreme responsibility when carrying to be more calm and avoid more confrontations than a regular person. Because 99.9% of confrontations are not risking death, and your firearm must remain hidden and has no place in the argument whatsoever. Good vid.
@@michaelbrown-ne7vo No. The legal standard is what a reasonable person would feel given the same set of facts that were known to you in the same circumstances. The fact that you personally felt threatened doesn't mean that feeling was reasonable or rational.
@michael brown I live in Florida and we have stand your ground law. But the last time I would want to do is to take someone's life. Would I stay an argument with someone just because I don't have to retreat. Absolutely not. I would leave the area if I could safely do so. I believe in avoiding and evading as do most concealed carry people I know.
lotta states now are open carry. that gives you an opportunity to do things a bit quicker because you only have to unbuckle your holster not also unzip something. What I like though about open carry is that it puts every perp out there "on notice". of course they can open carry as well, though even when they ain't legal to even have a firearm in their possession. most perps don't care about law because possession by a felon is a slap on the wrist. yeah these perps need to be going to prison for 10 years.. THAT would stop a lot of illegal possessions.
We have had some cases here where the home owner have killed a suspect, from inside the house, because they were getting into their car parked on the street and claimed, "I feared for my life"...really? We have the castle law, but, if one reads our penal code, that will not apply.
@@kobeandgary the thing of the law is not giving excuse for killing somebody else and justifying that reason of you not killing unless absolutelly necessary to defend your life and that of your loved ones. Our traffic law, for example, it make some pedestrian activities, like selling newspapers or beggars at traffic stop lights illegal, BUT, that same law requires drivers to protect pedestrians on the road "...even if they are making illegal use of the way". You may ask why they did that, and the answer was precisely to prevent drivers from mowing down pedestrians and beggars indiscriminatelly because of their illegal use of the road and using that as defense. Of course, accidents happens, but that is something to be determined by investigations. A guy trying to steal your car which is parked on a street can be easily scared off by you activating the alarm with your remote. Police will check all those small details. And he better be armed if you shoot him.
This video probably one of the best USCCA videos out there for us law abiding CCW holders. No one , including myself wants to draw my weapon for any reason , i always think of my firearm as a last resort after exhausting all options. But if my back is against the wall with no safe exit. Then i would be forced to draw. Awesome video.
Hearing the story about the guy shooting the clerk thinking he or she was the aggressor was heart breaking. Not only for the guy thinking he did something good but the clerk getting shot defending his or her business. Definitely will keep that in mind if I come across a situation like that hopefully not and hopefully never will but definitely an eye opener
The takeaway from that situation is that you cannot assume anything when it comes to involving yourself in a situation like that. Anytime you take your gun out of the holster you are risking your life physically and potentially legally as well. If it's not you personally or a family member you're trying to protect then you better be damn certain you know what is actually going on before you make that call.
Another is a man on top of a woman on the ground and she’s yelling rape. Someone intervenes with a firearm. Turns out that it was an undercover vice officer making an arrest.
I've had a CCW on me for 16 years and I thank God every day I have never had to draw or use it. I pray that continues. I heard a instructor telling people a very long time ago " Behind every bullet is a lawyer" I always think of that.
@@kevinlewis2485 defending yourself in this country is getting more and more expensive, first, pay for the gun, then pay for the ammunition, (2.5 sometimes people pay for attachments) then pay for lawyers to defend yourself in the court of law.
In Florida, castle doctrine actually does mean you can shoot someone for forcibly entering your house or curtilage as long as they don't have a legal reason to be there (cops, invited guests, etc.) The law says that by definition when a person enters a domicile who is not allowed to do so, they are presumed to have intent of committing additional crimes therein and so deadly force is a warranted response. You do not have to wait and see if they are going to attack you, have a gun, or anything. However, that doesn't mean a prosecutor will just roll over. If someone knocks on your door in the middle of the afternoon and you shoot them, or they walk in calmly and happen to be at the wrong house, it is going to be a tougher defense than waking up in the middle of the night to door being kicked in. Both are forcible and unlawful entry and justified use of force, but in one situation, there's a reasonable assumption that you could tell you weren't in imminent fear of your life and could perhaps have attempted to issue a command for the person to retreat before shooting. 'Great bodily harm' is the trickiest one. Someone trying to punch you may not be imminent fear of death, but if it is a guy bigger than you, or two guys, even without weapons they could beat you to a pulp. No way to know until after it happens if they're just going to hit you once or pummel you into the ground. The problem is, Juries don't often understand how dangerous a situation can be.
always assess and analyze the situation before even drawing especially if ya trying to save somebody cause you dont know whose in the wrong whose in the right and ya wanna make the right call
Yep. GTFO is best if you can. It sucks for some people but that is something you don't want to fk up. You never know if that "victim" is really the hunter who has become the hunted.
@@rw7594 Excellent advice--one move has always been to have a "damsel in distress" situation and hope somebody draws, then somebody else who's hidden shoots him, and the gang gets a free gun and a free wallet. The heroic victim, of course, gets a free corpse--his own.
Thank you for the wisdom you have shared Sir! Most Respectfully Michael Weeks, a new USCCA member, San Antonio, Texas. I've been shooting for 50 years-damned humbling to realize how little I know....
Kudos to those of us that try to learn all we can about self defense laws, so we can be in the best position for protecting ourselves. I for one have learned a lot just from watching these USCCA videos.
You must also as it is said plenty of times on these videos, Know your state laws concerning the use of deadly force!!! The laws (statues) are on-line and able to be printed out for free. Ignorance is no excuse!!!! I try to make sure I do not become involved in being forced to defend others when I can, but in Arizona I can open or conceal carry without a permit. That does NOT give me the right to blast at someone when I could have avoided it. I carry and am aware I must Know where the bullet is going that I just shot out of my firearm!!!!
That was heavy the store clerk had a shotgun and the bad guy was behind the counter I would’ve felt real bad if that was me with the CCW having my gun pointed at the wrong person FYI I really appreciate the knowledge you guys give us
Never walk into a store blind, as you approach you should be looking inside to see if anything is "odd", like no-one at the counter, or just anything not looking right. This really applies to late at night, when few people are around, few/no cars in the parking lot.
@@jonathandargin4180 TY, also stay aware when you are in a store late at night, and be aware of who walks into the store while you are there. This is what cashiers do constantly (if they are any good). Hell ,you should be doing this(being aware) even before, or as you pull into a store parking lot. No cars or one-two cars out front/gas-line, start thinking. 4 cars ? less stress. (please note night shift workers will park cars out front as a means to deter late night robberies). This is real chit in that world/field of employment. I spent many years as a small store manager and later a night shift manager at a truck stop. While I never was robbed myself, I did have a cashier who was robbed at gunpoint*, and watched that vid more than few times,, and also saw many corporate video's of robberies of one store-chain, I worked for. *- Interesting enough, about that robbery of my cashier, I knew an old dude(local homeless-Vietnam Vet Crack-head, but a good friend), who knew the local gangs of that area, and he said the robbery was simply a gang member from a nearby town- (making his bones), by doing an "armed robbery" , the dude did not want to shoot anybody, the money was not important, just a requirement to move up in rank in his gang. weird how that chit works I also knew a local store manager who was murdered over a pack of Newports, because he did not sell to two "teens" because they did not have an ID. That happened on a lazy afternoon. So there is that. You never know what might going on, when you drive up into a small store, but especially at night /not a lot of traffic/business/people. Usually nothing is going on , but be aware and stay aware. Guns or not.
@@chrisperrien7055 damn good advice for everyone, that...situational awareness and "keeping your head on a swivel" is the only way you're getting through life without some hard lessons (if you're lucky; otherwise that's all she wrote).
Excellent points about the third party. My CCW instructor was an LEO from a nearby city and also gave us an excellent example about knowing your third party. We were examining whether or not we were criminally protected vs civilly protected after a shooting and it opened up my eyes. Everything you said is spot on. Thanks for sharing.
That third party situation I fear a lot especially since I live where many are armed. I don't want to get shot because someone thinks I'm the bad guy in a situation where I was defending myself or another.
Something similar happened in Arvada last summer. Cop got ambushed and killed and a a guy concealed carrying dropped the guy but decided to pick up his rifle and ended up getting shot by police.
@@bigdog4574 That's why you put your gun in your car before the cops arrive. Heard that in another of his videos. I think it is the one on what to do after a self defense situation.
That situation has been brought up to me by several people before I got my cpl, and my answer has always been that while I don't want to get shot (and there are a few things you can do to help lessen the chance you can never completely mitigate it), I personally can't think of any better way to die than while protecting an innocent person/people. That being said I don't have a spouse or any children I would leave behind and I don't judge anyone who doesn't share that mindset.
Very true ..even though I was the victim and was attacked in my business ,I still had to go to court about 5 times to prove my innocence..rather be safe than sorry.
gary g. Exactly. I have decided to not CC because of potential legal problems and expense. I am careful in evaluating people around me. High situation awareness. I wait at the ATM until there are zero people around. I would rather run then fight.
@@tebelshaw9486 naw if you don’t kill them they can sue you, and they will win that court case I promise you. Always shoot to kill or it’s gonna be a lot worse for you
This stuff is really tough to grasp but really important and I went to law school. Most lawyers and police hate civilians having firearms so you need to be super careful. You need to be super careful about drawing your gun or you will be charged with brandishing. If you carry a gun then you must carry pepper spray since you can only use the gun for lethal encounters and the pepper spray is for everything else.
Problem is too many people watch too much TV and think they can draw because they think they MIGHT be going to face a deadly threat. Before they actually face it. They watch cops on TV preemptively draw all the time and think because they do it, I can too. Wrong. If you draw you better be ready and justified to shoot.
This type of video of instructional video is exactly what needs to be showed to new gun owners. Even as a avid firearms supporter, it blows my mind how some states don’t require classes to carry. This alongside proper conceal carry 101, crossfire type videos, and proper storage would really do a lot in properly informing new firearm owners the importance of safety when choosing to carry. I want to stress that I love our 2nd amendment, but owners need to understand the severity of reveling your firearm and/or shooting.
I've seen enough examples to know that the answer is always 'it depends'. The law is written, but it's never absolute. There are always arguments to everything and people that try to spin situations in their favor, etc. For example, would you be right in knowing that, if a larger and much stronger person were to threaten you with physical harm, that would justify lethal force because there is a high likelihood of you ending up at the ER if he were to get his hands on you. The law says no, you can't, because he didn't have a weapon or an object to assist, or that he was only using his hands and not kicking you in the head. But, common sense tells us that the law is totally ridiculous because the threat of giving you permanent injury is very real should that strong guy decide that one punch wasn't good enough, or something to that effect. It's always a permanent gray area, which is why I hate the law so much. The law protects criminals as much, if not more, than victims.
You have to remember; laws are made by lawyers for lawyers. They see good law as what every puts the most money in a lawyers pocket. If we wanted the best law, we would ban lawyers from being in the legislature.
There's a thing called disparity of force. For example if a 250lb guy jumps on a 100lb woman. I believe she can give him a bang bang Bad. That's my belief
Florida just had a case involving a man shooting and killing a man. Both where in a theater. The gun toting man was upset with the younger man using his cell phone. The situation escalated and the retired police officer shot the man. Because he threw popcorn at the retired police officer. Who was found innocent and justified killing.
If a big guy catches you just right with a hit, it’s lights out!! Then what is he going to do to you? Now in Ohio we can stand our ground, is it legal if they don’t have a gun or weapon? Are they aloud to beat you? I say if they are going to take the chance on beating me I’m going to do what I need to do to survive, I’m not taking a chance on getting beaten to death. The law says you can’t escalade the threat by pulling a firearm and shooting them if they don’t have a weapon. I don’t know how to fight, but I know how to shoot.
Always attempt to flee no matter what, even in a stand your ground state. This will definitely help your self-defense case. Edit: I am seeing some dumb Fudd replies. So to further clarify you should retreat from a threatening situation only if you can do so with complete safety. Hopefully you Fudds can understand that but I doubt it.
Especially if you are shot in the back. A great defense in court. "Your Honor, he shot me in the back several times with wadcutters. But I still stood my ground".
Sub'ed immediately. My friend, excellent delivery, love the silent room, no music, great delivery with a calm collected demeanor. Just what a real warrior sounds like.
I pulled mine on two would be muggers. Been carrying since the late 90’s. This is the only time I’ve ever had to produce my weapon. The presents of the firearm stopped them in their tracks and made them retreat. I have CCW safe the defender’s plan. For what it’s worth. And I’ve very happy with them.
Not necessarily true, some states Castle Doctrine if someone kicks in your door it's a assumed fact there to harm you or family and don't need a weapon or a threat so depends on your states law.
Police receives wrong report that there is a child abducted in your house and they kick in the door and you instantly shoot one of them and kills him... You're going to jail for murder.
@@mmafanatic-tz5or That is such a ridiculous analogy only some one untrained and not knowledgeable in the law would make such a statement. It doesn't work that way, you were obviously not LEO
I think he's referring to the mere entering of home. Forced entry changes everything. You can't just shoot someone that entered an open, or even unlocked door.
@@mmafanatic-tz5or READ MY COMMENT KICKED IN DOOR FORCE ENTRY and actually if they are attempting a forced entry you can legally shoot them through the door. Depending on State law and case law. Take a class
Nice and easy. Clear and concise. An excellent reminder that we may not know anything about a situation, so WATCH, call the po po, stay on the line, answer questions promptly, not starting with: "Well I was on the way to my mother's house and she always makes me feel fat, and I saw a dog without a leash then I went to the store then came here..." Just stick to the topic, and WAIT until you DO know.
Question? What do you do in this situation? Shooter shows up. Starts shooting. Takes out a few people before you have time to respond. You maybe shoot or get into a gun fight. Then say the "bad guy" darts out an exit door and flees. But you don't know if he is headed to take out anyone else . Say people are around where he is fleeing and the person has already taken out people. Even tho they are fleeing. Do you take out the person or not? Do you follow? Cause if you didnt he might take out other people. But at the same time if he fleeing he not attacking. So what's the rule in that?
If I am armed and someone hits me first then I have waited far too long to draw. I don't know if I will get up or be knocked senseless. At 55 I won't take chances. Hand to. Hand is good for the fight game but in life and death 2nd place is no option.
Just when I thought I had a pretty good grasp of situations, this scenario where the guy with the shotgun in the store with the guy behind the counter (no pun intended) blew me away. I didn't see that one coming! What an eye-opener! Nice job
Fantastic video and a very well spoken man. He did a good job of bridging the gap between an experienced and well knowledge fad viewer and somebody who may be new to the subject. All learning and not even a sense of condescension
Okay, so I am taking my time and educating myself before getting my first handgun. I love how Mr. Chip Eberhart has presented these 5 pillars! My thanks to USCCA and Mr. Chip Eberhart for posting this. I am grateful.
I have absolutely no problem walking away from a confrontation, and having a CCW would give me the confidence to do just that, assuming it was a scenario where a dude or a bunch of dudes were threatening me but didn’t have an obvious weapon present to cover the proportionality criteria. I wouldn’t draw unless I thought someone had a weapon or I was surrounded and couldn’t reasonably get away.
That was really helpful. I’m always mindful of the legal dangers of self defense. The guy in Florida who was convicted of manslaughter for shooting a guy who shoved him to the ground at a convenience store is an important example of what not to do.
This. While it's important that we all defend the innocence of those that rightfully defend themselves, we should just as loudly condemn the thundering dumbasses that abuse their power. Like that dude and the guys that shot Ahmaud Arbery
@Harv Dog no this dude was yelling at the victims girlfriend outside a gasstation and the victim runs up and shoves him away (becuase he was getting close), the guy falls to the ground and draws, the victim raises his hands and steps away, the guy shoots the victim, the victim runs into the gas station but unfortunately bleeds out
That was a cowardice act. Fcuk him. Bringing a gun to a fist fight ng. Can’t show your gun to intimidate that’s a menacing charge. People need to take 5 hr justification course before purchasing a weapon
I have a quick question regarding the definition of lethal force bit at 3:20. A few years ago I was in a car accident that gave me permanent brain damage, and multiple neurologists told me that another brain trauma would most likely put me into a coma, if not kill me. If someone is becoming physically violent towards me and is throwing punches at me, would I be justified in using lethal force to defend myself? Would them throwing punches at me with the intent to knock me out (which is a head trauma) be considered lethal force?
Im just some guy so dont hold much weight to my opinion but i would think they would have to at least landed one punch on you before you could legally defend yourself. If not, you would need to prove in court their attempt at lunging towards you violently with intent to punch you (or whatever) which may be difficult
Excellent information!! The first thing I did before getting my carry permit and carrying a firearm was I bought the book THE LAWS IF SELF DEFENSE!!! Very important to me to know what I CAN and CANT DO! Because as a normal citizen, we who carry are held to a MUCH HIGHER STANDARD when it comes to using a firearm!!!!
Thank for furthering our education on conseal carrying. It is so very important to know & understand our laws. Signed John Gregory, from Munster Indiana.
The instructors of both CCW classes I took said pulling your gun is basically the same as pulling the trigger to the law. They both said even if you pull your gun and the bad guy runs away, call the police and file a report. You want to say that you felt your life was in danger, you pulled your gun and the bad guy ran away. You want to make sure your name is on the victim line of the police report. You don't want the bad guy calling and claiming you pulled your gun for no reason.
I am currently dealing with guy who tried to shoot my pregnant wife and our two daughters. I was able to step between them and disarm him. He followed your advice here and now I have to fight him in court despite him trying to murder my pregnant wife and two daughters on Mother's Day. He is trying to charge me with civil harassment,, I am charging him with assault with a firearm.
I have always been told that if you are pulling your gun, you had better feel your life is in danger and you should be firing your gun at the threat, if you don't feel threatened enough to have to fire, you shouldn't have pulled your gun.
Excellent presentation - clear, concise, simple (without being overly simplified), understandable and with practical examples. More presentations should be delivered in this manner. Too many include unnecessary blah, blah, blah.
Always good to have a reminder that just because we carry ,we have a responsibility to know the law ,too many people fail to lead with self control. Thanks for the video .stay safe ,or call for backup.
We have absolutely no responsibility to know what their edicts are. They have made it so that it is virtually impossible to do so anyways. If you can show me one individual who knows every single law even in one state, I will be amazed. If they do not know what every single law is, they can never be sure that there are not more that contradict what other ones say just to trap us. Just because they haven't FOUND a "law" prohibiting you from drawing a gun at all does not mean that one does not exist unless they have read every single one of them.But I have tried to acquire their "laws" from them and they just send me back and forth between the court and the dmv. Then the lady had the gall to tell me it was my responsibility to learn the laws when that is what I was attempting to do! Natural law is the only law we have a moral obligation to follow. Arbitrary edicts carry no moral obligation.
@@molonlabe8470 you can find all your state and local laws online. You sound like a whiny brat who doesn't want to put effort in and just wants everyone else to do the work for them
I was walking my Frenchie one night in an area where coyotes and foxes are a frequent sight. On some weeks, I would see at least a coyote or a fox roaming around. However on this night, we were approached by a bunch of coyotes as I was walking my Frenchie. I made it a habit of "packing heat" every time I take him out for a walk so in case we get approached by wild animals, I'm ready. So I took out my Bersa Firestorm and fired a round at the coyote that was only a few feet away from us. I never found out if that coyote bled itself to death or I missed my target. Nevertheless, all the other coyotes sped away after that burst of gunfire. I don't have a CCW permit. So I guess what I did that night was, technically, illegal, right?
Always good to hear re-hear what is legal and to consider, on your own, what will be your trigger, within the law. I made sure to carry heading to a gas station on New Year's night and a wild acting fellow in a Santa hat approached me as I had my wallet out at the pump. We had brief stare down, then he walked on. I think in some instances, a brief 'brandishing' should be legal, but the cops seem to really want that to be an arrestable offense. As in, I was walking home one night wearing a jacket, with a hip tabbed holster that fits a small 38 snub, and an Officer driving by stopped to inform me he could see the bottom of the holster when reached up to tap a cross the street button. Maybe he was just being helpful. I won't crotch carry, so it goes on my hip or back.
This is tough, depending on the physical size of the aggressor.. if they swing at you slap or closed fist what do you do? If they continue to approach you..
I wish you would ask this articulate well-spoken gentleman to look into these brandishing laws. This was a very good speech about the law philosophy of our country. I have read some of the laws about brandishing but I don't have the audience to be worth a presentation on my part. This guy could keep a lot of your membership out of jail if he had a brandishing video for us all.
One thing to add- Don't ever talk to the police right after you're involved in a shooting, except maybe one sentence like "The guy came after me with a knife". Get a lawyer immediately, hopefully you have carry insurance.
@@KevinNordstrom The problem with not having insurance is the legal system today and lawyers that consider anyone with decent net worth a target. God forbid you get a jury of "woke" morons that have no ability to put 2 thoughts together. Of course if you have little to zero net worth a lawyer won't bother.
@@KevinNordstrom Can you afford to pay out of pocket for a really good criminal defense attorney who specializes in firearms and self-defense law? Because if you can't, you kinda need insurance.
When I was taking my CC class, the instructor told us that if it's not your life at stake, you better make sure you know exactly what transpired before you pull your gun and shoot someone. Like he said, you don't know if the person you shoot might just be defending themselves against an attacker. I was also instructed that if you pull your gun out and the attacker backs off, you no longer have legal grounds to shoot them because the threat is no longer imminent. Personally, unless the threat is against me/my family personally, I'm not pulling out my gun to shoot an attacker for this very reason. I carry to protect me/my family. I'm not a vigilante out to give justice to those wronged. If you're eager to shoot someone, then you're likely going to get into trouble for it. Edit: for those that disagree with this mentality, that's fine. But also know that I don't care if you agree with it. Simply saying that it's the wrong mentality to have isn't going to change anyone's mind. It's hard to protect anyone when you're sitting in a prison cell because you shot the wrong person, or you had a shot ricochet and kill an innocent bystander.
@@jsprite123 it's intended to be broad. Generally when faced with a gun pointed at you, the initial reaction for people is to step back and put their hands up. Unless someone keeps advancing (or doesn't lower their own gun) when your gun is pointed at them, your have no legal ground to shoot them. Again, the law is intentionally vague, so if they can't prove that your life wasn't in imminent danger, then you are in the clear.
Based on your third paragraph- 1- I pray my family will never be put into a situation in which they are fearing for their lives with you present. 2- I pray I’ll never have to be put in a situation to have to protect your family…. Because I will. Ps… if an attacker is backing away, it doesn’t mean that person is no longer a threat to you or your family. Plenty of cops have been justified in their actions of shooting to kill an individual backing away from them as long as they “felt threatened “. Is your CCW training better than the training that LEO’s go through?
@@irietree3148 First of all, thank you for the insult. But again, I'm not a cop, nor am I trying to be a vigilante. My first duty is to make sure my family is safe and provided for. If I prematurely pull my gun and shoot somebody because I perceive that someone else may be in danger, I could very easily be convicted of murder, which means that my family will no longer be provided for, and my children will basically grow up without me in their lives. Second, cops are often able to justify use of force in more situations because they wear the uniform, and often people will attack even after they back away. If someone like you or me shoots someone after they have backed away, we will be charged with murder, because they are no longer an immediate threat, and our use of force is no longer justified. There are different sets of training that CCW's go through.
I'd argue that if an attacker is armed with a firearm, "backing off" could just be a way for him to take cover and gain a tactical advantage over you. With that in mind, I think you should fire at an attacker armed with a gun if he's in your home. In public, however, it's up to the individual if they choose to fight or flee.
I once skipped a Walmart greeting lady and didn’t show receipt, completely ignoring her. I can see her eyeing me, so I turned around halfway to the door and she pointed a finger pistol at me and pulled it as if she was firing at me… 😅
Also when the alarm beeps when walking through the door I usually drop to my knees and put my hands up and scream as loud as I can " Don't shoot, I'm unarmed, call off the dogs"
Did you feel that your life was in danger ? You don't have to stop for those greeters. They don't want the bad publicity of calling the law. Simply ignore them.
What I would like to see covered (if not already) is, how the law differs if at all for people with medical issues or disabilities where just a simple punch can possible be life threatening. Like in my case I have had surgery a few years ago for a very bad hernia and I now have a mesh over the weakened area and I'm guessing a hard blow to that area can be very damaging or lead to possible death do to internal bleeding or a rupture. Thanks..
@@SK-me9by I'm not knowledgeable in this field. I think it's protecting yourself from bodily harm, and that includes surgeries and stuff. If someone is going to hurt you, and for you it would be very badly, then you should be able to defend yourself.
Upon the start of this video I realized just how tied our hands really are. Rules of engagement? In the streets there are no rules. But the powers see fit to proscribe laws that can leave a person hesitant for fear of going to jail and even in a justified shooting as innocent people are consistently getting sent to prison for any kind of incident. No one should be attacking anyone so when they do, even just a fist fight, we need to be able to take the gloves off and respond with the same prejudice that the criminal enacts. After all he is not worried about jail, so why do we have to be..
If you carry concealed, then you should also carry a gun owner's liability insurance policy. Another policy for legal fees is also recommended. Google it per your state...
@@MrJasonteal Burning a house down can kill all of the people there-in. If walls or trusses fail due to weakening from a fire they can crush you. I would think you can shoot if they start a fire, it is arson of an occupied structure!!!!
Sad. It's better to not get involved because of the way the laws are. We need to overhaul our rules on this topic. The good guys have soooo much to worry about and think about just to do the right thing.
When using the 5 principles and the catch phrase "a gun makes you hard to kill, knowledge of the law makes you hard to convict" you should give credit to the person who came up with them: Andrew Branca!
Nonsense, knowing the law doesn't make you hard to convict. It's entirely up to the courts, you have no say in the matter. That's why some people are proponents of suppressed guns for home defense--greater chance of not having to deal with any government BS afterward if nobody heard anything go down.
@@devilsoffspring5519 Read my comment again: 1: I never said it's impossible to be convicted, it's merely hard (or harder) to get in trouble with the law. Exactly for the reasons you described, i.e., the uncertainty o the U.S. legal system. 2: Even if you have a beef with the phrase, please don't complain to me because I'm not the one who coined the phrase (Andrew Branca) and I'm not the one who blatantly plagiarized Branca's phrase without proper credit (USCCA). My whole post was about my complaint that USCCA plagiarized content from other providers (potentially even trademarked content!). 3: What "some people" (i.e., you???) propose is murder + tampering with evidence. That will surely get you in trouble with the law. May God have mercy on you!
Wow this is the most direct simplified with scenarios presented for anyone to understand this must be shared. I'm going to do it myself now! Thank you Chip for lifting this particular veil of ignorance
A good friend of mine is a licensed instructor. I thought I knew a lot about confronting a threat until he told me someone with a knife 15 feet away can stab you before you can even draw. Keep your eyes up and scan your environment.
@@ericschneider8524 More like your willingness to pay attention and scan your situation by not walking, staring at a phone screen or looking at your feet.
I was infantry combat Nam, MMA/self defense instructor and CQC instructor Iraq. If the guy with the knife is inside 15 ft, some studies say 20 ft, he can cut you before your perception/reaction time allows you to pull the trigger even if you are already pointing your firearm at him. there are several videos on UA-cam demonstrating this.
most citizens are ignorant to the law the govt knows that so they do not care ive carried for over 35yrs never got bothered never drew my gun and never had a license
I just started watching but if I pull mine? I'm using it unless the aggresser backs off. I don't go looking for trouble or stick my nose where it doesn't belong. Love from SE Texas 🤟
Great information I live in the state of Pennsylvania and everytime I renew my permit at the courthouse I also grab the free book they have about firearms in my state and I know it so well now but I still check it cause laws change. But this man is correct it is imperative you know the laws of your state.
Most States allow you to draw your gun in defense...BUT you cannot point it at anyone unless they advance at you in a life threatening manor. I have had several situations where I had to pull and usually kept it pointed down, and the cops always had to explain to the other person that it is perfectly legal for my defense.
Thank you guys for this excellent video. I currently have no weapons but have thoughts of enrolling in a gun training program and doing Open carry. Things are very bad out there and I just want to be able to protect myself, my family and our home. Again, THANKS !!! 😇😇😇
We're glad to see that you are getting value from our content, Larry. It's great to see that you are looking to take some training so that you can be a properly prepared defender.
Why would you want to open carry? If I'm a bad guy and I wanna cause chaos you would be the first target because I see a gun on your waist. Concealed carry makes more sense. I don't want the bad guy to know I have a gun.
WOW that situation where the 3rd party defender shot the store owner thinking he's the robber is for one the biggest problem with our trigger happy ass cops...and exactly why I agree on not getting involved with anything 3rd party unless I've witnessed the ENTIRE situation from the start
A wise man told me this regarding domestic disputes. You go to save the woman and then she attacks you from behind to save the guy that kicking her teeth in. Yeah... shark tank. The 3rd party isn't my friends or family. I'm not jumping into that tank to save someone who should've had a concealed carry themselves...
@@SGxShadow I like that train of thought, risking loosing your life, livelihood and everybody you love if you wind up getting locked up and loosing in court for a wild card... Couldn't agree more friends or family only 🍻
@@easternyankee2096 lol he did say the shotgun was pointed at the man behind the counter... Who happened to have just shot the store clerk, doesn't change anything on why 3rd party deadly force is something I'd almost never get involved with
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"We carry a firearm because we're hard to kill. But we need knowledge of the law, so that we're hard to convict." Had me hooked. Well spoken. Edit: Subbed!
Hmm, that sounds like what Andrew Branca says. 😏
I really liked this spokesman, he was clear and direct, informative and easy to listen to. And everything he said made perfect sense.
Good luck trying to learn every single law that they came up with which are not written in English!
We carry a firearm so we're hard to kill...he didn't say because we are hard to kill. Lol. There is a huge difference.
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I hope he caught that. Lol
The concealed carrier mistakenly shooting the store owner situation warrants a educational video all on it's own. Definitely something to process before you get involved. Great and informative video.
That sent a chill down my spine. Who couldn't see themselves walking into that same exact situation?
@@newhorizon1355 went right over your head huh?
@@newhorizon1355 😂 your brain must be SMOOOOTTTTHHHHH
Best way to think about that: Just walk tf out. Your job isn't to protect a gas station or anyone who isn't your family.
Yeah, for real. Lotta details to unpack, I'm sure. There's likelya thousand other instances where good intentions paved the road to hell for a family. HAving the whole story dissected would be a solid and solemn reminder to stay sharp and use the firearm as a last resort, not just a convenient option. Dunno the full story, but I feel bad for the guy that shot as well ast the store owner. There's probably another instance of someone hesitating to help and for this reason and having to watch an innocent die just because they couldn't get the facts in time.
All we can do is the best we can do. We would do well to reserve our judgements lest we fail just as badly trying to be a hero or something.
I'm glad this mentions the proportionality. Some of the best videos I've seen are the ones reminding a CCW that you have a supreme responsibility when carrying to be more calm and avoid more confrontations than a regular person. Because 99.9% of confrontations are not risking death, and your firearm must remain hidden and has no place in the argument whatsoever. Good vid.
it is all dependent on the individuals thought of threat of harm to ones' self it is never the same for all
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No. The legal standard is what a reasonable person would feel given the same set of facts that were known to you in the same circumstances. The fact that you personally felt threatened doesn't mean that feeling was reasonable or rational.
@@michaelbrown-ne7vo Cause that'll totally hold up in court.
@michael brown I live in Florida and we have stand your ground law. But the last time I would want to do is to take someone's life. Would I stay an argument with someone just because I don't have to retreat. Absolutely not. I would leave the area if I could safely do so. I believe in avoiding and evading as do most concealed carry people I know.
lotta states now are open carry. that gives you an opportunity to do things a bit quicker because you only have to unbuckle your holster not also unzip something. What I like though about open carry is that it puts every perp out there "on notice". of course they can open carry as well, though even when they ain't legal to even have a firearm in their possession. most perps don't care about law because possession by a felon is a slap on the wrist. yeah these perps need to be going to prison for 10 years.. THAT would stop a lot of illegal possessions.
Finally someone that actually knows what the self defense laws actually are.
I love his shark tank thing, more gun owners need to think like this.
We have had some cases here where the home owner have killed a suspect, from inside the house, because they were getting into their car parked on the street and claimed, "I feared for my life"...really? We have the castle law, but, if one reads our penal code, that will not apply.
@@MoondancerRec in my opinion, if somebody is stealing your vehicle, you should have every right to put them in the ground.
@@kobeandgary That can be your opinion, which I respect, but it is not what the law says.
@@MoondancerRec of course it isn't what the law says. Unfortunately our laws highly favor giving criminals the upper hand in most situations.
@@kobeandgary the thing of the law is not giving excuse for killing somebody else and justifying that reason of you not killing unless absolutelly necessary to defend your life and that of your loved ones. Our traffic law, for example, it make some pedestrian activities, like selling newspapers or beggars at traffic stop lights illegal, BUT, that same law requires drivers to protect pedestrians on the road "...even if they are making illegal use of the way". You may ask why they did that, and the answer was precisely to prevent drivers from mowing down pedestrians and beggars indiscriminatelly because of their illegal use of the road and using that as defense. Of course, accidents happens, but that is something to be determined by investigations. A guy trying to steal your car which is parked on a street can be easily scared off by you activating the alarm with your remote. Police will check all those small details. And he better be armed if you shoot him.
Videos like this are an ABSOLUTE MUST for any CCW holder. Keep putting out great, educational content like this. You just got yourself another sub
I try to learn everyday to be prepared. You have to know and understand these rules….AND integrate them into your daily life.
he forgot to mention ADA and how that apply's it's totally different if your a disabled person
Maine has open carry you don’t need ccw
@@shorty808100 is it different laws or perception? Being disabled myself I’d like to know more about your comment.
Ccw are unconstitutional.
This video probably one of the best USCCA videos out there for us law abiding CCW holders. No one , including myself wants to draw my weapon for any reason , i always think of my firearm as a last resort after exhausting all options. But if my back is against the wall with no safe exit. Then i would be forced to draw. Awesome video.
Hearing the story about the guy shooting the clerk thinking he or she was the aggressor was heart breaking. Not only for the guy thinking he did something good but the clerk getting shot defending his or her business. Definitely will keep that in mind if I come across a situation like that hopefully not and hopefully never will but definitely an eye opener
I have this fear about confronting a shooter and then being mistaken by the police or bystanders for the shooter and getting shot myself
@@larrybrock6811 How often does the police try to find a connection to the other shooters and cant find one?
Yep. That's one of the reasons why my mantra is "don't be a hero." A cell phone is a better weapon in these cases.
The takeaway from that situation is that you cannot assume anything when it comes to involving yourself in a situation like that. Anytime you take your gun out of the holster you are risking your life physically and potentially legally as well. If it's not you personally or a family member you're trying to protect then you better be damn certain you know what is actually going on before you make that call.
Another is a man on top of a woman on the ground and she’s yelling rape. Someone intervenes with a firearm. Turns out that it was an undercover vice officer making an arrest.
I've had a CCW on me for 16 years and I thank God every day I have never had to draw or use it. I pray that continues. I heard a instructor telling people a very long time ago " Behind every bullet is a lawyer" I always think of that.
Behind every bullet is a lawyer. I like 👍
@@kevinlewis2485 defending yourself in this country is getting more and more expensive, first, pay for the gun, then pay for the ammunition, (2.5 sometimes people pay for attachments) then pay for lawyers to defend yourself in the court of law.
@@shadowyyCFH then, if you made the wrong decision pay for it in the penitentiary.
what do you call a thousand lawyers chained to the bottom of the ocean?????? a good start lol
@@sethtenrec just change your party to DEM it is a get out of jail free card, when did you hear of a DEM going to jail??? not 1 in our government
In Florida, castle doctrine actually does mean you can shoot someone for forcibly entering your house or curtilage as long as they don't have a legal reason to be there (cops, invited guests, etc.) The law says that by definition when a person enters a domicile who is not allowed to do so, they are presumed to have intent of committing additional crimes therein and so deadly force is a warranted response. You do not have to wait and see if they are going to attack you, have a gun, or anything.
However, that doesn't mean a prosecutor will just roll over. If someone knocks on your door in the middle of the afternoon and you shoot them, or they walk in calmly and happen to be at the wrong house, it is going to be a tougher defense than waking up in the middle of the night to door being kicked in. Both are forcible and unlawful entry and justified use of force, but in one situation, there's a reasonable assumption that you could tell you weren't in imminent fear of your life and could perhaps have attempted to issue a command for the person to retreat before shooting.
'Great bodily harm' is the trickiest one. Someone trying to punch you may not be imminent fear of death, but if it is a guy bigger than you, or two guys, even without weapons they could beat you to a pulp. No way to know until after it happens if they're just going to hit you once or pummel you into the ground. The problem is, Juries don't often understand how dangerous a situation can be.
Those 5 pillars where great to be reminded of. Thank you!
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That last bit at the gas station was eye opening, never thought about that.
always assess and analyze the situation before even drawing especially if ya trying to save somebody cause you dont know whose in the wrong whose in the right and ya wanna make the right call
Yep. GTFO is best if you can. It sucks for some people but that is something you don't want to fk up. You never know if that "victim" is really the hunter who has become the hunted.
@@rw7594 Excellent advice--one move has always been to have a "damsel in distress" situation and hope somebody draws, then somebody else who's hidden shoots him, and the gang gets a free gun and a free wallet. The heroic victim, of course, gets a free corpse--his own.
Thank you for the wisdom you have shared Sir! Most Respectfully Michael Weeks, a new USCCA member, San Antonio, Texas. I've been shooting for 50 years-damned humbling to realize how little I know....
Kudos to those of us that try to learn all we can about self defense laws, so we can be in the best position for protecting ourselves. I for one have learned a lot just from watching these USCCA videos.
You must also as it is said plenty of times on these videos, Know your state laws concerning the use of deadly force!!! The laws (statues) are on-line and able to be printed out for free. Ignorance is no excuse!!!! I try to make sure I do not become involved in being forced to defend others when I can, but in Arizona I can open or conceal carry without a permit. That does NOT give me the right to blast at someone when I could have avoided it. I carry and am aware I must Know where the bullet is going that I just shot out of my firearm!!!!
That was heavy the store clerk had a shotgun and the bad guy was behind the counter I would’ve felt real bad if that was me with the CCW having my gun pointed at the wrong person FYI I really appreciate the knowledge you guys give us
Never walk into a store blind, as you approach you should be looking inside to see if anything is "odd", like no-one at the counter, or just anything not looking right. This really applies to late at night, when few people are around, few/no cars in the parking lot.
That is some good insight I will be more aware as always appreciate you
@@jonathandargin4180 TY, also stay aware when you are in a store late at night, and be aware of who walks into the store while you are there. This is what cashiers do constantly (if they are any good). Hell ,you should be doing this(being aware) even before, or as you pull into a store parking lot. No cars or one-two cars out front/gas-line, start thinking. 4 cars ? less stress. (please note night shift workers will park cars out front as a means to deter late night robberies). This is real chit in that world/field of employment.
I spent many years as a small store manager and later a night shift manager at a truck stop. While I never was robbed myself, I did have a cashier who was robbed at gunpoint*, and watched that vid more than few times,, and also saw many corporate video's of robberies of one store-chain, I worked for.
*- Interesting enough, about that robbery of my cashier, I knew an old dude(local homeless-Vietnam Vet Crack-head, but a good friend), who knew the local gangs of that area, and he said the robbery was simply a gang member from a nearby town- (making his bones), by doing an "armed robbery" , the dude did not want to shoot anybody, the money was not important, just a requirement to move up in rank in his gang. weird how that chit works
I also knew a local store manager who was murdered over a pack of Newports, because he did not sell to two "teens" because they did not have an ID. That happened on a lazy afternoon. So there is that.
You never know what might going on, when you drive up into a small store, but especially at night /not a lot of traffic/business/people. Usually nothing is going on , but be aware and stay aware. Guns or not.
@@chrisperrien7055 damn good advice for everyone, that...situational awareness and "keeping your head on a swivel" is the only way you're getting through life without some hard lessons (if you're lucky; otherwise that's all she wrote).
@@penny8579 You need training. The guy with the shotgun could quickly take you out. In less than a second he can rotate and shoot.
Excellent points about the third party. My CCW instructor was an LEO from a nearby city and also gave us an excellent example about knowing your third party. We were examining whether or not we were criminally protected vs civilly protected after a shooting and it opened up my eyes. Everything you said is spot on. Thanks for sharing.
That third party situation I fear a lot especially since I live where many are armed. I don't want to get shot because someone thinks I'm the bad guy in a situation where I was defending myself or another.
Something similar happened in Arvada last summer. Cop got ambushed and killed and a a guy concealed carrying dropped the guy but decided to pick up his rifle and ended up getting shot by police.
Yeh that’s what scares me also.. someone else like a rookie trigger happy cop mistaking me for a bad guy
@@bigdog4574 That's why you put your gun in your car before the cops arrive. Heard that in another of his videos. I think it is the one on what to do after a self defense situation.
That situation has been brought up to me by several people before I got my cpl, and my answer has always been that while I don't want to get shot (and there are a few things you can do to help lessen the chance you can never completely mitigate it), I personally can't think of any better way to die than while protecting an innocent person/people. That being said I don't have a spouse or any children I would leave behind and I don't judge anyone who doesn't share that mindset.
@@jeremyc4893 In your holster is good enough.
Very true ..even though I was the victim and was attacked in my business ,I still had to go to court about 5 times to prove my innocence..rather be safe than sorry.
gary g. Exactly. I have decided to not CC because of potential legal problems and expense. I am careful in evaluating people around me. High situation awareness. I wait at the ATM until there are zero people around. I would rather run then fight.
Damn same here lol shushhh🤣 nobody's knows about it jk 😜
government wants you to be a victim. not a citizen.
@@tebelshaw9486 naw if you don’t kill them they can sue you, and they will win that court case I promise you.
Always shoot to kill or it’s gonna be a lot worse for you
Which state is this
This stuff is really tough to grasp but really important and I went to law school. Most lawyers and police hate civilians having firearms so you need to be super careful. You need to be super careful about drawing your gun or you will be charged with brandishing. If you carry a gun then you must carry pepper spray since you can only use the gun for lethal encounters and the pepper spray is for everything else.
Knowing your own state laws, it’s a pretty easy concept.
I liked this guy. He laid down some excellent information in a clear and decisive manner.
If I am facing a deadly threat, the last thing I will worry about is whether it is legal for me to draw my firearm.
And that is when it's legal. You won't have any doubt.
@@ericschneider8524 tell that to a jury when a white person kills a non-white...Whites get the book thrown at them
lol dont let it get to you some people are looking to murder.
Problem is too many people watch too much TV and think they can draw because they think they MIGHT be going to face a deadly threat. Before they actually face it. They watch cops on TV preemptively draw all the time and think because they do it, I can too. Wrong. If you draw you better be ready and justified to shoot.
Did you watch the video? That’s exactly what he agreed upon.
This type of video of instructional video is exactly what needs to be showed to new gun owners. Even as a avid firearms supporter, it blows my mind how some states don’t require classes to carry. This alongside proper conceal carry 101, crossfire type videos, and proper storage would really do a lot in properly informing new firearm owners the importance of safety when choosing to carry.
I want to stress that I love our 2nd amendment, but owners need to understand the severity of reveling your firearm and/or shooting.
I've seen enough examples to know that the answer is always 'it depends'. The law is written, but it's never absolute. There are always arguments to everything and people that try to spin situations in their favor, etc. For example, would you be right in knowing that, if a larger and much stronger person were to threaten you with physical harm, that would justify lethal force because there is a high likelihood of you ending up at the ER if he were to get his hands on you. The law says no, you can't, because he didn't have a weapon or an object to assist, or that he was only using his hands and not kicking you in the head. But, common sense tells us that the law is totally ridiculous because the threat of giving you permanent injury is very real should that strong guy decide that one punch wasn't good enough, or something to that effect. It's always a permanent gray area, which is why I hate the law so much. The law protects criminals as much, if not more, than victims.
You have to remember; laws are made by lawyers for lawyers. They see good law as what every puts the most money in a lawyers pocket. If we wanted the best law, we would ban lawyers from being in the legislature.
There's a thing called disparity of force. For example if a 250lb guy jumps on a 100lb woman. I believe she can give him a bang bang Bad. That's my belief
Florida just had a case involving a man shooting and killing a man. Both where in a theater. The gun toting man was upset with the younger man using his cell phone. The situation escalated and the retired police officer shot the man. Because he threw popcorn at the retired police officer. Who was found innocent and justified killing.
If a big guy catches you just right with a hit, it’s lights out!! Then what is he going to do to you? Now in Ohio we can stand our ground, is it legal if they don’t have a gun or weapon? Are they aloud to beat you? I say if they are going to take the chance on beating me I’m going to do what I need to do to survive, I’m not taking a chance on getting beaten to death. The law says you can’t escalade the threat by pulling a firearm and shooting them if they don’t have a weapon. I don’t know how to fight, but I know how to shoot.
not true, again in states that have castle laws and no obligation to retreat laws...
Always attempt to flee no matter what, even in a stand your ground state. This will definitely help your self-defense case.
Edit: I am seeing some dumb Fudd replies. So to further clarify you should retreat from a threatening situation only if you can do so with complete safety. Hopefully you Fudds can understand that but I doubt it.
Especially if you are shot in the back. A great defense in court. "Your Honor, he shot me in the back several times with wadcutters. But I still stood my ground".
Would walking backwards quickly while shooting count? Asking for an idiot.
I certainly wouldn't say "Always"...That could get someone killed.
If someone robbing you at gun point? Flee???😂😂
Some states the way the law is written you have to flee if somebody invades your home, so stupid
Sub'ed immediately. My friend, excellent delivery, love the silent room, no music, great delivery with a calm collected demeanor. Just what a real warrior sounds like.
I pulled mine on two would be muggers. Been carrying since the late 90’s. This is the only time I’ve ever had to produce my weapon. The presents of the firearm stopped them in their tracks and made them retreat. I have CCW safe the defender’s plan. For what it’s worth. And I’ve very happy with them.
Not necessarily true, some states Castle Doctrine if someone kicks in your door it's a assumed fact there to harm you or family and don't need a weapon or a threat so depends on your states law.
Police receives wrong report that there is a child abducted in your house and they kick in the door and you instantly shoot one of them and kills him... You're going to jail for murder.
@@mmafanatic-tz5or That is such a ridiculous analogy only some one untrained and not knowledgeable in the law would make such a statement. It doesn't work that way, you were obviously not LEO
I think he's referring to the mere entering of home. Forced entry changes everything. You can't just shoot someone that entered an open, or even unlocked door.
You can't just shoot someone just because they walk into your house.
@@mmafanatic-tz5or READ MY COMMENT KICKED IN DOOR FORCE ENTRY and actually if they are attempting a forced entry you can legally shoot them through the door. Depending on State law and case law. Take a class
Nice and easy. Clear and concise. An excellent reminder that we may not know anything about a situation, so WATCH, call the po po, stay on the line, answer questions promptly, not starting with: "Well I was on the way to my mother's house and she always makes me feel fat, and I saw a dog without a leash then I went to the store then came here..." Just stick to the topic, and WAIT until you DO know.
This has to be one of the most informative videos I've ever watched
Love this guy's reasonable discussion. Everyone needs to hear this.
Question? What do you do in this situation? Shooter shows up. Starts shooting. Takes out a few people before you have time to respond. You maybe shoot or get into a gun fight. Then say the "bad guy" darts out an exit door and flees. But you don't know if he is headed to take out anyone else . Say people are around where he is fleeing and the person has already taken out people. Even tho they are fleeing. Do you take out the person or not? Do you follow? Cause if you didnt he might take out other people. But at the same time if he fleeing he not attacking. So what's the rule in that?
If I am armed and someone hits me first then I have waited far too long to draw. I don't know if I will get up or be knocked senseless. At 55 I won't take chances. Hand to. Hand is good for the fight game but in life and death 2nd place is no option.
This is the best uscca video yet. Priceless content that could save you or someone else. Well done!
EXACTLY RIGHT. THE PRESENTER WAS GOOD AND THE TOPIC VERY TIMELY. This is the best uscca video yet [BIG THUMBS UP]
It’s never illegal to draw your gun. It’s only illegal to color it in.
Just when I thought I had a pretty good grasp of situations, this scenario where the guy with the shotgun in the store with the guy behind the counter (no pun intended) blew me away. I didn't see that one coming! What an eye-opener! Nice job
Fantastic video and a very well spoken man. He did a good job of bridging the gap between an experienced and well knowledge fad viewer and somebody who may be new to the subject. All learning and not even a sense of condescension
the store situation is crazy. no matter how tough it might be minding your business saves you from alot
Okay, so I am taking my time and educating myself before getting my first handgun.
I love how Mr. Chip Eberhart has presented these 5 pillars!
My thanks to USCCA and Mr. Chip Eberhart for posting this.
I am grateful.
You get that handgun yet?
@@Rended_ YES! H&K VP9 and I started teaching my daughter. I got her a Taurus G3C. Thank you for asking! My CCL was granted on April Fools Day (LMAO).
Incredibly informative episode, the clarity is crystal and the delivery is impeccable. Thank you for the refresher!
Amazing you all don't know ???. If you could read minds right ?
I have absolutely no problem walking away from a confrontation, and having a CCW would give me the confidence to do just that, assuming it was a scenario where a dude or a bunch of dudes were threatening me but didn’t have an obvious weapon present to cover the proportionality criteria. I wouldn’t draw unless I thought someone had a weapon or I was surrounded and couldn’t reasonably get away.
That was really helpful. I’m always mindful of the legal dangers of self defense. The guy in Florida who was convicted of manslaughter for shooting a guy who shoved him to the ground at a convenience store is an important example of what not to do.
This. While it's important that we all defend the innocence of those that rightfully defend themselves, we should just as loudly condemn the thundering dumbasses that abuse their power. Like that dude and the guys that shot Ahmaud Arbery
@@russellcontreras394 yes 👏
@Harv Dog no this dude was yelling at the victims girlfriend outside a gasstation and the victim runs up and shoves him away (becuase he was getting close), the guy falls to the ground and draws, the victim raises his hands and steps away, the guy shoots the victim, the victim runs into the gas station but unfortunately bleeds out
That was a cowardice act. Fcuk him. Bringing a gun to a fist fight ng. Can’t show your gun to intimidate that’s a menacing charge. People need to take 5 hr justification course before purchasing a weapon
@@russellcontreras394 You can yell at people, that doesn't justify assault.
Excellent presentation !! Impressive speaking and the information is rock solid. Thank you Chip and Kevin. Do this MORE often !!!!!!
I have a quick question regarding the definition of lethal force bit at 3:20. A few years ago I was in a car accident that gave me permanent brain damage, and multiple neurologists told me that another brain trauma would most likely put me into a coma, if not kill me. If someone is becoming physically violent towards me and is throwing punches at me, would I be justified in using lethal force to defend myself? Would them throwing punches at me with the intent to knock me out (which is a head trauma) be considered lethal force?
Im just some guy so dont hold much weight to my opinion but i would think they would have to at least landed one punch on you before you could legally defend yourself. If not, you would need to prove in court their attempt at lunging towards you violently with intent to punch you (or whatever) which may be difficult
Excellent information!!
The first thing I did before getting my carry permit and carrying a firearm was I bought the book THE LAWS IF SELF DEFENSE!!! Very important to me to know what I CAN and CANT DO! Because as a normal citizen, we who carry are held to a MUCH HIGHER STANDARD when it comes to using a firearm!!!!
Thank for furthering our education on conseal carrying. It is so very important to know & understand our laws. Signed John Gregory, from Munster Indiana.
Howdy, Bob from Fortville Indiana
Our education on WHAT?
I like the calm delivery and the good information.
The gas station clerk story is actually so powerful. You have GOT to know what's going on before you enter as a 3rd party and make things worse
Unless you are police like in the Arvada, CO incident
It seems by the time you guys are ready for your "gun give-away", it will have the technology of Star Trek phasers.
The instructors of both CCW classes I took said pulling your gun is basically the same as pulling the trigger to the law. They both said even if you pull your gun and the bad guy runs away, call the police and file a report. You want to say that you felt your life was in danger, you pulled your gun and the bad guy ran away. You want to make sure your name is on the victim line of the police report. You don't want the bad guy calling and claiming you pulled your gun for no reason.
Sounds like you won’t have your CCW long
@@noahcarter1056 why?
I am currently dealing with guy who tried to shoot my pregnant wife and our two daughters. I was able to step between them and disarm him. He followed your advice here and now I have to fight him in court despite him trying to murder my pregnant wife and two daughters on Mother's Day. He is trying to charge me with civil harassment,, I am charging him with assault with a firearm.
Very informative. Especially the story of the gas station robbery.
Yep, civilians do not have Qualified Immunity only the police do.
@@BigJon410 also communication is key
I have always been told that if you are pulling your gun, you had better feel your life is in danger and you should be firing your gun at the threat, if you don't feel threatened enough to have to fire, you shouldn't have pulled your gun.
Pretty much
@@UpNorthOutWest not in my state. If someone breaks in my car all I can do is call the cops.
Hm. I'd rather neutralize the threat without having to end a life. If that means I pull to deter, I pull to deter.
@@MrJasonteal warning shots shouldn't be illegal either if you don't shoot at the assailant or into the air of course
Naw I don’t take chances. I’m not getting put on the news because I didn’t wanna fight a court case
Excellent presentation - clear, concise, simple (without being overly simplified), understandable and with practical examples. More presentations should be delivered in this manner. Too many include unnecessary blah, blah, blah.
Incredible video thank you USCCA- I’m a proud member
Its legal when my "Spidey Sense" starts to tingle....
Always good to have a reminder that just because we carry ,we have a responsibility to know the law ,too many people fail to lead with self control. Thanks for the video .stay safe ,or call for backup.
We have absolutely no responsibility to know what their edicts are. They have made it so that it is virtually impossible to do so anyways. If you can show me one individual who knows every single law even in one state, I will be amazed. If they do not know what every single law is, they can never be sure that there are not more that contradict what other ones say just to trap us. Just because they haven't FOUND a "law" prohibiting you from drawing a gun at all does not mean that one does not exist unless they have read every single one of them.But I have tried to acquire their "laws" from them and they just send me back and forth between the court and the dmv. Then the lady had the gall to tell me it was my responsibility to learn the laws when that is what I was attempting to do! Natural law is the only law we have a moral obligation to follow. Arbitrary edicts carry no moral obligation.
@@molonlabe8470 you can find all your state and local laws online. You sound like a whiny brat who doesn't want to put effort in and just wants everyone else to do the work for them
I was walking my Frenchie one night in an area where coyotes and foxes are a frequent sight. On some weeks, I would see at least a coyote or a fox roaming around. However on this night, we were approached by a bunch of coyotes as I was walking my Frenchie. I made it a habit of "packing heat" every time I take him out for a walk so in case we get approached by wild animals, I'm ready. So I took out my Bersa Firestorm and fired a round at the coyote that was only a few feet away from us. I never found out if that coyote bled itself to death or I missed my target. Nevertheless, all the other coyotes sped away after that burst of gunfire. I don't have a CCW permit. So I guess what I did that night was, technically, illegal, right?
@@shikat2371 ,unless you were on your own property, you committed a felony just by concealed carrying.
@@donnaldostrom Geez, thanks for the info..
Always good to hear re-hear what is legal and to consider, on your own, what will be your trigger, within the law. I made sure to carry heading to a gas station on New Year's night and a wild acting fellow in a Santa hat approached me as I had my wallet out at the pump. We had brief stare down, then he walked on. I think in some instances, a brief 'brandishing' should be legal, but the cops seem to really want that to be an arrestable offense. As in, I was walking home one night wearing a jacket, with a hip tabbed holster that fits a small 38 snub, and an Officer driving by stopped to inform me he could see the bottom of the holster when reached up to tap a cross the street button. Maybe he was just being helpful. I won't crotch carry, so it goes on my hip or back.
This is tough, depending on the physical size of the aggressor.. if they swing at you slap or closed fist what do you do? If they continue to approach you..
Very well spoken. Thanks.
Chip is top notch! Thank You, Fantastic refresher!
Thanks for the support!
One of the best training spokesmen ever. Reminded me of an instructor at the FLETC in Artesia.
All these laws make it extremely confusing. They should be boiled down to a basic understanding that the majority of the public can learn quickly.
that would be much too easy. we like to make it difficult to defend yourself and to spice it up we make every state has different rules!
True, and planes should only have one joystick control, no other dials, gauges. So everyone can fly a jet .
@@miguelservetus9534 I feel like flying a plane a completely irrelevant
Should be everyone’s right to protect yourself, property and love ones
I wish you would ask this articulate well-spoken gentleman to look into these brandishing laws. This was a very good speech about the law philosophy of our country. I have read some of the laws about brandishing but I don't have the audience to be worth a presentation on my part. This guy could keep a lot of your membership out of jail if he had a brandishing video for us all.
Well said and well written. Someone explaining it all with good sense and knowledge of the law.
One thing to add- Don't ever talk to the police right after you're involved in a shooting, except maybe one sentence like "The guy came after me with a knife". Get a lawyer immediately, hopefully you have carry insurance.
Do you have to have carry insurance in Florida?
@@metube2824 Not mandatory.
@@KevinNordstrom The problem with not having insurance is the legal system today and lawyers that consider anyone with decent net worth a target. God forbid you get a jury of "woke" morons that have no ability to put 2 thoughts together. Of course if you have little to zero net worth a lawyer won't bother.
@@KevinNordstrom Can you afford to pay out of pocket for a really good criminal defense attorney who specializes in firearms and self-defense law? Because if you can't, you kinda need insurance.
And for Gods sake don’t recount the event to the press.
Does size account for anything
When I was taking my CC class, the instructor told us that if it's not your life at stake, you better make sure you know exactly what transpired before you pull your gun and shoot someone. Like he said, you don't know if the person you shoot might just be defending themselves against an attacker.
I was also instructed that if you pull your gun out and the attacker backs off, you no longer have legal grounds to shoot them because the threat is no longer imminent.
Personally, unless the threat is against me/my family personally, I'm not pulling out my gun to shoot an attacker for this very reason. I carry to protect me/my family. I'm not a vigilante out to give justice to those wronged. If you're eager to shoot someone, then you're likely going to get into trouble for it.
Edit: for those that disagree with this mentality, that's fine. But also know that I don't care if you agree with it. Simply saying that it's the wrong mentality to have isn't going to change anyone's mind.
It's hard to protect anyone when you're sitting in a prison cell because you shot the wrong person, or you had a shot ricochet and kill an innocent bystander.
"Back Off" is too broad. Does that mean the other guy throws away his weapon? Or just lowers his arm with the weapon still on his hand? Etc....
@@jsprite123 it's intended to be broad. Generally when faced with a gun pointed at you, the initial reaction for people is to step back and put their hands up.
Unless someone keeps advancing (or doesn't lower their own gun) when your gun is pointed at them, your have no legal ground to shoot them.
Again, the law is intentionally vague, so if they can't prove that your life wasn't in imminent danger, then you are in the clear.
Based on your third paragraph-
1- I pray my family will never be put into a situation in which they are fearing for their lives with you present.
2- I pray I’ll never have to be put in a situation to have to protect your family…. Because I will.
Ps… if an attacker is backing away, it doesn’t mean that person is no longer a threat to you or your family.
Plenty of cops have been justified in their actions of shooting to kill an individual backing away from them as long as they “felt threatened “.
Is your CCW training better than the training that LEO’s go through?
@@irietree3148 First of all, thank you for the insult. But again, I'm not a cop, nor am I trying to be a vigilante. My first duty is to make sure my family is safe and provided for. If I prematurely pull my gun and shoot somebody because I perceive that someone else may be in danger, I could very easily be convicted of murder, which means that my family will no longer be provided for, and my children will basically grow up without me in their lives.
Second, cops are often able to justify use of force in more situations because they wear the uniform, and often people will attack even after they back away. If someone like you or me shoots someone after they have backed away, we will be charged with murder, because they are no longer an immediate threat, and our use of force is no longer justified. There are different sets of training that CCW's go through.
I'd argue that if an attacker is armed with a firearm, "backing off" could just be a way for him to take cover and gain a tactical advantage over you. With that in mind, I think you should fire at an attacker armed with a gun if he's in your home. In public, however, it's up to the individual if they choose to fight or flee.
Great video chip ! Well explained
Excellent articulation in Standard American English. Much appreciated.
Is anybody else going to mention how great Chip’s voice is?
I think he would be great for narrating an audio book
Pro tip: if you're in a pickup truck chasing someone who's unarmed and fleeing on foot, you shouldn't draw a firearm
n k. Good advice because shooting someone for property could get you a life sentence.
Never in todays world that defends a criminal over a citizen.
I once skipped a Walmart greeting lady and didn’t show receipt, completely ignoring her. I can see her eyeing me, so I turned around halfway to the door and she pointed a finger pistol at me and pulled it as if she was firing at me… 😅
I would have fell on the floor and not gotten up until paramedics arrived. Sued for emotional damage. Easy 50 grand LOL
Also when the alarm beeps when walking through the door I usually drop to my knees and put my hands up and scream as loud as I can " Don't shoot, I'm unarmed, call off the dogs"
@@johnbauer9628 lol
Did you feel that your life was in danger ? You don't have to stop for those greeters. They don't want the bad publicity of calling the law. Simply ignore them.
@@ericschneider8524 thanks for that. No, it was just a joke.
This is a fantastic video, thanks for the information.
This videos more needed than ever. Alot of people seem confused about that one now.
What I would like to see covered (if not already) is, how the law differs if at all for people with medical issues or disabilities where just a simple punch can possible be life threatening. Like in my case I have had surgery a few years ago for a very bad hernia and I now have a mesh over the weakened area and I'm guessing a hard blow to that area can be very damaging or lead to possible death do to internal bleeding or a rupture. Thanks..
But some people can punch hard enough to be lethal to most anyone.
@@NANA-lq5md I do realize that fact but, I'm wondering if a person's health matters in the eyes of the law.
@@SK-me9by I would think so, but I'm no cop.
@@NANA-lq5md Yea, but that's why we have USCCA. Also I carry the jpx pepper gun as well for a non-lethal option.
@@SK-me9by I'm not knowledgeable in this field. I think it's protecting yourself from bodily harm, and that includes surgeries and stuff. If someone is going to hurt you, and for you it would be very badly, then you should be able to defend yourself.
Upon the start of this video I realized just how tied our hands really are. Rules of engagement? In the streets there are no rules. But the powers see fit to proscribe laws that can leave a person hesitant for fear of going to jail and even in a justified shooting as innocent people are consistently getting sent to prison for any kind of incident. No one should be attacking anyone so when they do, even just a fist fight, we need to be able to take the gloves off and respond with the same prejudice that the criminal enacts. After all he is not worried about jail, so why do we have to be..
The morality of murder, something to think about... look it up!
@@laurelwilloughby6762 please elaborate. Are you calling a self defender a murderer? Or the one who murders a self defender?
If you carry concealed, then you should also carry a gun owner's liability insurance policy. Another policy for legal fees is also recommended. Google it per your state...
USCCA insurance covers both
Great content as usual!
one of the best explanations I've seen. My personal policy is and what I teach my kids is, "We protect people never property."
"We're gonna burn your house down."
"Let us all get out before you do."
Nope.
@@MrJasonteal Burning a house down can kill all of the people there-in. If walls or trusses fail due to weakening from a fire they can crush you. I would think you can shoot if they start a fire, it is arson of an occupied structure!!!!
We spend so much time working on firearm skills and not enough on the legal part. Very important.
Sad. It's better to not get involved because of the way the laws are. We need to overhaul our rules on this topic. The good guys have soooo much to worry about and think about just to do the right thing.
When using the 5 principles and the catch phrase "a gun makes you hard to kill, knowledge of the law makes you hard to convict" you should give credit to the person who came up with them: Andrew Branca!
Nonsense, knowing the law doesn't make you hard to convict. It's entirely up to the courts, you have no say in the matter.
That's why some people are proponents of suppressed guns for home defense--greater chance of not having to deal with any government BS afterward if nobody heard anything go down.
@@devilsoffspring5519 Read my comment again:
1: I never said it's impossible to be convicted, it's merely hard (or harder) to get in trouble with the law. Exactly for the reasons you described, i.e., the uncertainty o the U.S. legal system.
2: Even if you have a beef with the phrase, please don't complain to me because I'm not the one who coined the phrase (Andrew Branca) and I'm not the one who blatantly plagiarized Branca's phrase without proper credit (USCCA). My whole post was about my complaint that USCCA plagiarized content from other providers (potentially even trademarked content!).
3: What "some people" (i.e., you???) propose is murder + tampering with evidence. That will surely get you in trouble with the law. May God have mercy on you!
Wow this is the most direct simplified with scenarios presented for anyone to understand this must be shared. I'm going to do it myself now! Thank you Chip for lifting this particular veil of ignorance
A good friend of mine is a licensed instructor. I thought I knew a lot about confronting a threat until he told me someone with a knife 15 feet away can stab you before you can even draw. Keep your eyes up and scan your environment.
Your 1st line of defense is your brain.
@@ericschneider8524 More like your willingness to pay attention and scan your situation by not walking, staring at a phone screen or looking at your feet.
I was infantry combat Nam, MMA/self defense instructor and CQC instructor Iraq. If the guy with the knife is inside 15 ft, some studies say 20 ft, he can cut you before your perception/reaction time allows you to pull the trigger even if you are already pointing your firearm at him. there are several videos on UA-cam demonstrating this.
What about breaking and entering?
This was a very informative and succinct explanation of self defense. Nice video!
Man. Carrying is like walking on eggshells now. Why can’t we hold the government to the same standards?
most citizens are ignorant to the law the govt knows that so they do not care ive carried for over 35yrs never got bothered never drew my gun and never had a license
Also it to depends on your state laws!!
I just started watching but if I pull mine? I'm using it unless the aggresser backs off. I don't go looking for trouble or stick my nose where it doesn't belong. Love from SE Texas 🤟
"I hadda couple beers, your honor. I thought he was a wild boar!" hehehehe
"We carry a firearm so we're hard to kill, but we need knowledge of the law so we're hard to convict" Perfectly said.
Great information I live in the state of Pennsylvania and everytime I renew my permit at the courthouse I also grab the free book they have about firearms in my state and I know it so well now but I still check it cause laws change. But this man is correct it is imperative you know the laws of your state.
Most States allow you to draw your gun in defense...BUT you cannot point it at anyone unless they advance at you in a life threatening manor. I have had several situations where I had to pull and usually kept it pointed down, and the cops always had to explain to the other person that it is perfectly legal for my defense.
This needs to be discussed
Some blue states that would be illegal. And I wish it wasn't.
Thank you guys for this excellent video. I currently have no weapons but have thoughts of enrolling in a gun training program and doing
Open carry. Things are very bad out there and I just want to be able to protect myself, my family and our home. Again, THANKS !!! 😇😇😇
We're glad to see that you are getting value from our content, Larry. It's great to see that you are looking to take some training so that you can be a properly prepared defender.
Why would you want to open carry? If I'm a bad guy and I wanna cause chaos you would be the first target because I see a gun on your waist. Concealed carry makes more sense. I don't want the bad guy to know I have a gun.
Safer to conceal carry.
That was an excellent description of the castle doctrine!
WOW that situation where the 3rd party defender shot the store owner thinking he's the robber is for one the biggest problem with our trigger happy ass cops...and exactly why I agree on not getting involved with anything 3rd party unless I've witnessed the ENTIRE situation from the start
A wise man told me this regarding domestic disputes. You go to save the woman and then she attacks you from behind to save the guy that kicking her teeth in. Yeah... shark tank. The 3rd party isn't my friends or family. I'm not jumping into that tank to save someone who should've had a concealed carry themselves...
@@SGxShadow I like that train of thought, risking loosing your life, livelihood and everybody you love if you wind up getting locked up and loosing in court for a wild card... Couldn't agree more friends or family only 🍻
Amen!
What he didn't say is whether or not the shotgun was POINTED at the guy who shot the guy with the shotgun !
@@easternyankee2096 lol he did say the shotgun was pointed at the man behind the counter... Who happened to have just shot the store clerk, doesn't change anything on why 3rd party deadly force is something I'd almost never get involved with
By the time I think thru these 5 pillars I have lost my advantage of concealed carry with a round in the chamber.. 🤔
Very good explanation.
I tend to not take legal advice from LEO. A few month of training doesn’t make them versed in law. I’ll listen to the people who have studied it.
Not at all, not to mentjon most I know werent too bright at all in school.
Thank you!!!!!! I’ve been thinking this same thing for years!
The way the laws are written across our country, the Laws protect the criminal !!!