He didn't say "I have a gun". He said. "Sir I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me" in a very calm voice. the cop seemed calm at first and then freaked out.
Mr. Ayoob, Thank you very much for your concern and efforts to educate the public. Your thoughts are representative of a common sense approach. Many of the subjects of your presentations are topics that need to be considered before there is an actual requirement to respond to the circumstances in question. Thank you again, DC
From what I remember hearing is Castile's Permit to carry was expired on the day he was shot. I don't see it explained in Wiki or other places but that would be important evidence, not that he deserved to die, but he did cause his fatality by being "High" and not being able to articulate "Right & Wrong".
I’m so used to carrying I keep forgetting my gun is on me. I don’t say anything. I very rarely get pulled over as it is but when I do I just smile and comply with whatever I’m asked to do and then I’m on my way. In our town if you have a permit, the cops don’t want to hear about it. They don’t care. People with permits usually don’t commit crimes. I can’t even afford a simple fist fight. If I get out of line just a tinch, I could lose everything! Having this right to arm myself is a real privilege and I don’t want to lose it for any reason. I’m actually more passive since I started carrying. I reconsider everything. You have to. With all the paperwork and litigation that follows a shooting, not to mention the taking of the weapon after it’s been used, I don’t even want to deal with that.
I've found that letting the cops know that I have a gun they start acting funny. Told cop it was inside waistband at 4 o'clock and when I reached for gloves he said wanted to know what I was doing. I told him I was getting insurance and registration. He said ok he was making sure I wasn't going for gun. I told him its inside my pants. Some get nervous.
When you realize anyone with a couple hours practice can go from relaxed to gun drawn and a first shot fired in under 1 second while carrying in the waistband..... it starts to make sense why they'd be jumpy. Next time, announce you are going to make a move before you do it. "Officer, I'm going to reach my right hand over to the glove box so that I can retrieve my paperwork." That way he knows you aren't moving for the draw.
Exactly. Don’t do it. Telling cops anything they didn’t ask about is dumb. Unless it’s purposefully misleading or distracting to change the tone of the conversation (I use this one a lot)
All valid points. I just watched the video and I have to say this is a pretty gray area. The guy says I have a gun and then goes to handle it presumably to give it to the officer. The officer has to make a split second decision keeping on mind that this guy could be wanted for a crime committed earlier. Additionally there is a woman and child in the back seat. What if the officers rounds hit one of them. This was a cluster fuck on so many levels. You can't Second guess the officer but if after seeing the gun the officer retreated to the rear of the car instead of doing a mag dump on the guy things could have gone differently. Had the driver not touched the gun things could have gone differently. Now an officer and a civilian are both either dead or scared for life. A total messed up stop from start to finish. I feel for everyone involved. The moral if the officer says don't touch the gun don't touch the gun. Just sit there and wait for instructions. Bad day all around.
And last Mr. Ayoob: The police officer who shot Philando Castile was Jeronimo Yanez, a member of the St. Anthony Police Department in Minnesota. Yanez had been with the department for four years and had a generally unremarkable record prior to the shooting. However, there were some complaints against Yanez for unprofessional conduct and excessive use of force prior to the shooting. During the trial, it was revealed that Yanez had attended a training session on responding to armed suspects just two days before he shot Castile. However, the prosecution argued that Yanez's response during the shooting was not in line with the training he had received. Yanez was charged with second-degree manslaughter and two counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm. In June 2017, he was found not guilty on all charges by a jury in Ramsey County. The verdict sparked protests in Minnesota and across the United States, with many people criticizing the criminal justice system for failing to hold police officers accountable for shootings of unarmed Black men.
Until recently here in Ohio, we had a duty to notify. The one time I was stopped while carrying, I told the officer I was carrying. He said, “if you don’t take yours out, I won’t take mine out.”
@@texasblueboy1508 no shit. Same thing with carrying a clone of a common model. A sizable portion of people carrying guns are carrying guns like that in nylon clip on holsters
Yes...saying "I have a gun" can sound threatening. But that is not what he said. He calmly and respectfully said, "sir, I do have to tell you, I have a firearm on me", which doesn't sound threatening at all. Therfore with all due respect, due to such a drastic misquoting of what Mr Castile actually said, it really puts into question the rest of your assessment and opinion on the matter.
Uh oh, are you questioning the Almighty God King himself? Naughty naughty boy.🤣. With that all said you are spot on with your comment. Mas is not speaking for people of color (even though he himself is of color), and is simply putting the blame on Mr. Castille and not the mindset of police when it comes to people of color. This is the same gentleman as well as James Yeager that made videos during the protest about “if you had to shoot into a crowd”. That should explain everything there.
Actually, you can play the doubt-casting game all you want, which is what defense attorneys hope to accomplish with sheep (and many times defense attorneys successfully accomplish this with sheep), but the statement makes absolutely no difference to the rest of the factual content, sage advice, and analysis provided by Massad here. Nice try though. You may have succeeded in fooling yourself and a number of sheep, but not anyone who is more than a half-wit.
What did he actually start to take out the weapon is the real Nitty Gritty of it all?? Someone can calmly say whatever and they can pull that gun out and shoot you did he actually start retrieving the firearm?? Anytime you pulled over by police in your caring and they ask you if you having a weapon should immediately say yes officer I have a concealed carry permit and make sure he sees your hands right hand at 10:00 o'clock left hand hanging out the door is what I do some of these guys are paranoid and they will kill you and get away with it that's the sad part
Just watched the dashcam vid for the first time. The victim did not say “I HAVE A GUN!”. He politely said “Sir, I have to tell you I have a firearm on me”. Pretty big difference there. Also - while I agree that reaching for his pockets (for whatever) was a move that could be considered threatening - it was not an imminent threat. Especially when combined with the knowledge that the suspect had just voluntarily and politely notified the officer that he was carrying. Yes. The officer was justified to draw his weapon at that point and command the suspect to keep his hands visible. But to start pulling the trigger? No. In my mind - he would have to see that suspect’s weapon actually being drawn to justify pulling that trigger. Mind you, at this point the officer had the drop on the suspect - having already pulled his weapon first. So long as the suspect’s weapon remained holstered - there was no imminent threat. Regardless of what the hands were doing. Personally, I do not believe this was a good shoot.
Yt people hate blk people and the cops are a force to keep us in our place. that man did nothing wrong when he alerted the cop that he had a fire arm. That man was in the car with his wife and child if I remember correctly. We would not try to fight a cop, with our love ones in the car.
Stupidity of reaching at his pocket is not an “immediate threat”. That’s beyond stupidity. Regardless of what he said, it’s an immediate threat and he was not stopping when police wanted him to. Jonathan Diller was killed in seconds. It already too late when he pulled out that gun.
It wasn't a good shoot. And anybody who carries better think the same way, or the same thing can happen to them. This case set a precedent that you can be killed legally carrying a firearm by law enforcement, and they can be justified in doing so, as has happened in this case.
The point of the channel and of this video in particular is to try to avoid situations like this. It isn’t to justify what the cop do or did. It’s simply trying to avoid being killed and as stated in other videos, it’s better to be right and then get a settlement later, not be dead. In other words, I can learn from Castillo’s mistakes while also not believing the cop was justified.
There was no evidence by autopsy, Marijuana in the car or statements from the girlfriend to support the allegation of "odor" in the car and that's a common claim by police officers to escalate a routine stop. As to "fitting the description", I doubt many felons in flight do so with a child in the backseat. The cop had backup, granted the language used was incorrect, but being an idiot isn't a capital offense. There were alternatives and this cop acted out of irrational fear, not training or duty.
This was my first thought too. They ALWAYS lie about smelling an "Odor". So who cares if the officer said he smelled something. Stop lying, then maybe we'll believe you.
I recall having seen this video a long time ago, and your take on it just didn’t seem right so I had to watch it again. “Sir I have to tell you I have a firearm on me”, at which point it immediately escalated. The officer was afraid of his own shadow and that is why this person is dead. You should be making a video for the officers how to better handle this. The officer may have been acquitted of murder, but that doesn’t mean he did everything right.
Exactly. If I recall, 1. the officer asked for is credentials 2. The deceased stated he has a gun (which at that time,the officer is on high alert and don’t want him reaching for anything). 3. The deceased reaches for his GUN. 4. Officers sees gun, NOT HIS CREDENTIALS which was in another pocket and fired his service weapon
@@kittysaywut ...Typical cop-hating troll trying to stir up even more hatred where it doesn't belong. Castile caused his own death with Diamond instigating it. Plain & simple for educated people like myself. Sheesh !!!
I have contempt for your misstatement of the events prior to the murder of Castile. He was also before he was killed told to present his ID. If police are to be obeyed, they are solely at fault when their poor training and communication result in their giving a person what that person can only perceive as being contradictory instructions. I have also seen that video, no, there were no attempts made to pull a firearm by Castile, and nothing a reasonable person could pretend were such. Neither am I impressed by the bought lies of a supposed expert, nor persuaded of their probity by your endorsement. You are telling me the sun rises in the West. It was a grotesque miscarriage of justice for Yanez not to be convicted of manslaughter. If police are going to claim extraordinary power to arrest and give orders on pain of death to people, they must be extraordinarily correct in their apprehensions, and pay a fair penalty when they are not. Such a forked tongue as I have just heard from Ayoob destroys all respect I have had for him individually, as the compliance of officers not too long ago in "taking a knee" has ended my respect for the profession as a whole. Also should be acknowledged by you that Yanez fellow police officer agreed there was no excuse for Yanez to shoot Castile.
At first I thought Castile got shot because he wasn't following directions and acting like a squirrel, the more I thought about it I think it was lack of communication between Castile and the cop. "Don't pull it out" was the order given by the cop after asking for Castile's drivers license. Castile was probably only reaching for his wallet and the cop panicked. Same thing happened to me when stopped. I had to get my wallet out of my back pocket near my pistol.
I'm also thrown off by his take on the "smell of marijuana indicating recklessness". I'd say that when a cop places his hand on his firearm when no crime or suspected crime (with evidence) has been committed, that is in itself reckless and escalates the situation.
@daviddale2570 I used to drive an old beat up silver Impala, nd I'd get pulled over for fitting descriptions, and one time, it must've been an armed violent crime, cause they ran up, one on each side, guns drawn and pointed. Id turned off the car and was rolling the window down and saw that in my mirror, so I shot my hands too the wheel so they could see them, and when they got level with the car, they saw me, shook their heads at eachother, holstered their guns and jogged back to their cars and tore off past me. Didn't even talk to me. And I had the thought "That'd be brandishing if I did it."
Yeah I just re watched that video massad and I might recommend you rewatch it. He didn't say I have a gun. He said "I do have a firearm on me" very respectfully. The officer said okay don't reach for it. He said I won't then boom he shot seven times with A CHILD IN THE VEHICLE. you know I had a LOT of respect for you massad. But I just lost a ton of that respect
Exactly! How many times has someone had a beer, is far from drunk and an officer smells the alcohol. Does that one beer or glass of wine make you irresponsible with your family, he may have smoked a joint and was perfectly fine. I have noticed this guy always tries to frame a picture of the black guys in a negative light. He did the same for Ahmad Aubrey in his take. You watch the video and it is clear. The officer waa straight scared. Just because he is calm speaking doesn't mean he doesn't have his own opinions.
@@show2ime Yeah police have this Brotherhood it's us against them mentality and all he ever does is make excuses for the police. The police in this country have unfettered power and because of that we should be holding them to a higher standard. Not a "benefit of the doubt" standard
The area that shooting took place was my old stomping grounds when I was a kid. I didn't have anybody tell me this but I figured it out myself, when the party lights come on whether you're carrying or not you keep your hands glued firmly to the steering wheel.when the officer walks up. In my case I always turn the dome light on and roll all down the windows. Because it's always seems to happen at night. While my hands are firmly glued to the steering wheel if I am carrying I inform the officer at that time.. every time I have been pulled over while carrying I walked away with a warning or nothing at All the police seem to appreciate the fact that I'm up front and I'm trying to do whatever I can to make sure the situation does not escalate
Castile had his hands on the steering wheel until ordered to retrieve his license. Castile did absolutely nothing wrong. Yanez's own sergeant informed the courts that officers are supposed to order a person to keep their hands on the steering wheel, and then ask questions concerning the location of the firearm. Yanez did not do this. His is a piece of shit officer, and Ayoob is a piece of shit for trying to paint Castile as a bad guy.
I did this and still got a ticket for 10 over headed directly 100yds from that sign where my 10 would’ve been the limit. Small town cops don’t give a shit. They want the money.
2:06 "Philando Castile says 'I have a gun.' " That is a lie. What Mr. Castile said was "Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.” That is *_very_* different from "I have a gun." It's a shame that Massad's long career in law enforcement has biased him in favor of the police so much that he is willing to lie in order to make a fellow cop look less trigger-happy than he actually was.
7:13 that is assuming too much. Is one to defend himself against the confirmed use of deadly force or against the assumption that deadly force could potentially be forthcoming? No actual weapon drawn out, no defensive shots fired. If I had done the same this trigger-happy officer did not being in blue, I would not have been acquitted of all charges, I am afraid.
With your hands on the wheel: "I am legally carrying a firearm. How would you like me to proceed?" I've been stopped 3 times while carrying and that's pretty exactly what I said. No shots fired in any of the stops.
As Max says, you show your hands and then clearly state something along the lines of "I am legally carrying a weapon/s, it is in my X pocket/X holster. How do you want me to proceed?"
What the hell are you talking about, Mas? Castile wasn't shot while reaching into his pocket. He was shot while reaching for the glove box. The officer said so and his body cam shows so. The shooting was bad because Castile was shot without presenting an imminent threat, acting aggressively, or even disobeying the officer's instructions. The officer kept telling Castile not to reach for the gun. Castile _wasn't_ reaching for his gun (which was under the seat, IIRC) and replied as such, which you can hear on the body cam. Still the officer only repeated his flawed instruction instead of switching to the clear, all-encompassing "freeze" or "stop moving". He pulled the trigger never having been in imminent danger or reasonably believing he was. He saw no gun, yet fired anyway, based on his assumption that the gun was in the glove box and that Castile was going to pull it out and point it at him. It was at least manslaughter. The man was fired for good reason. Fear consumed him to an extent that just can't happen in a police officer.
Exactly. Lot of boot licking happening in these comments, He’s off his rocker on this one. Completely making up a fairy tale to connect dots that don’t exist.
@Joseph Steaphens The subjectivity of concepts like reasonableness and imminency combined with the pathological degree to which many people (including prosecutors, often) give cops the benefit of all doubt, no matter how unreasonable. Far too few seem capable of asking themselves (and honestly evaluating) how they'd see it if the person weren't a cop.
"sir, I have a firearm".........is not "I have a gun". You wildly misquoted Mr. Castile. I went and watched the link. That police office jumped way to quick and point plank emptied that firearm into that man who willingly informed that officer after he was pulled over for a tail light. The camera doesn't show the outfit nor anything inside the car so we have only the officer's POV. Everything else aside, that police officer jumped way too easy for "sir I have a firearm" with no follow up questions like "do you have a permit for that firearm". His own direction of " don't reach for it" told HIMSELF that any move other than hands on the wheel is reaching for a firearm, and there was no direction to put hands on wheel. The family won a large settlement because they wouldn't have been able to win because it was a wrongful death. You have to be so blatantly clear with your words and direct a person in that moment. A "license and registration please"....."sir I have a firearm"..........."don't reach for it".........right there is where he convinced himself that any movement was a threat to himself. As Castile reached for his license and registration could only mean that he was reaching for a gun from the cops perspective because of his own direction. No business being a cop.
Have you ever been in a situation like the officer was in? By the time he stood placidly by while the driver got around to informing him he had a permit the officer could very well have been dead. I once had to draw and fire against a drawn weapon while working undercover. The thing that saved me was the criminal's response time. He was not expecting such a move thinking everything was going his way, but I had no choice. Had his response time have been quicker I would have been shot, and I was looking at being shot for being a cop with a lot worse odds in my favor.
@@tiredofbullcrap You mean scared shitless at his own shadow? Clearly, that officer has no business being an officer. I know saying it's a tough job understates it by a factor of 100 but some aren't cut out for it and he displayed extremely poor decision making. Your situation was totally different because your life was in imminent danger and common wisdom dictates that you never draw when someone has the drop on you. Whatever window you had, you exploited and the only thing I can hope for is that the criminal is dead, one less a-hole in the world, thanks. You did state that you were facing "being shot for being a cop." But you were working undercover so I don't understand that part. If your cover was blown, you're lucky you didn't get dispatched immediately. Some people are just plain evil.
@@tiredofbullcrap *Have you ever been in a situation like the officer was in?* irrelevant! What the op said still stands! If the cop was so worried, he could have gotten him out of the car!
According to the dash cam video of the incident, here is the transcript: [Officer Politely explains reason for stop] [Philando Castile (polite tone)]: "Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me" [Officer (calmly)]: "Ok.. ok... don't reach for it then, dont pull it out" [PC (calmly)]: "I'm not pulling it out" [Officer (firmly)]: "Don't pull it out!" Officer shoots multiple times [Girlfriend]: "You just killed my boyfriend" [PC (still alive, but mortally wounded)]: "I wasn't reaching!" [Girlfriend]: "He wasn't reaching!" [Officer (extreme yell)]: "DONT PULL IT OUT!" [Girlfriend]: "He wasn't!" [Officer (extreme yell)]: "DONT MOVE!" [Girlfriend]: "He wasn't!" According to Massab, here's the transcript: [PC] "I have a gun." [Officer]"Don't take it out" [Officer (escalates)]: "Don't take it out! [Officer (escalating more)] DONT TAKE IT OUT!" Officer shoots multiple times PC is dead I'll leave you to decide if there is a substantive difference between Massab's telling and the dash cam's telling.
This is the same situation in Trayvon Martin's case. George Zimmerman didn't listen to the police officer And stayed put. Instead, he went and stalked Trayvon Martin and shot and killed him, and got away with it because the jury didn't hear the 911 tape. And Massab in a magazine article uses every excuse in the book To justify George Zimmerman's murder of Trayvon Martin. I don't listen to Any advice from Massab.
The fact that Massab is a longtime acquaintance of the cop’s defense attorney says everything you need to know about his ability to analyze this situation objectively.
I live in the state of Georgia and currently, there is no requirement to inform an officer of the law that I am carrying or that I have a permit. Also, our state legislature has recently done away with the permit requirement for carrying concealed. So, what I've gleaned from this video is that in a traffic stop, it is a good idea to have my necessary documentation (license and registration) already out where it is visible and to have both hands on my steering wheel. After that, I will use my discretion as to whether or not I should inform an officer of my carry status in a non-threatening tone (not "I've got a gun") and ask for instruction on how to proceed.
yeah, the same technique has worked for me for decades. Give the cop the drivers license along with the CCW Permit. Follow it up with both hands on the wheel and a big smile.
Due to duty to inform, Beyond Handing over, DL, CCW, Registration & Insurance Per My State Law for the documents I’m legally required to turn over during a a traffic stop. Besides, That Any Answering of Questions on your part no matter HOW NICE the Officer Seems, IF you want to ignore the fact that they are Prodding you in order to then USE that info in order to ASSIST the officer is Fining, Incarcerating, & Taking Your Freedom From you. He/She is NOT chatting you up for shits & giggles. They are NOT doing so to establish a cordial “working” relationship with you for the remainder of the interaction. They are speaking to you in order to obtain information which they can then use in order to Arrest/Charge/Incarcerate You. IF you willingly ASSIST the Officer in throwing your own ass in jail that’s your prerogative. That said, you have a 5Th Amendment Right For a REASON the SAME AS YOU HAVE A 4th Amendment Right Against Unlawful Searches seizure. As, IF the Officer pulls the old, “Well, IF you have nothing to HIDE THEN Why NOT let me VIOLATE your Right to Be secure in Against UnLawful/UnJust Searches & Seizures. If they want to search your Vehicle, Then FORCE Them to (1.)-Pretend the “Smell Weed” (2.)-Call a Damn K9, Make the Handler Signal the Dog to Preform a False Alert, & when they come up EMPTY, sit back n watch them try and state, “We’ll, You MUST’VE previously had drugs in the car for the dog to “Signal” Line of Horse Shit. (3.)-Watch them bypass Any Legal Justification for a Search, Tear Your shot into Bits on the RoadSide & Then Use the States Pay out to you for Ignoring the proper methods to search a vehicle which also will guarantee that, On OFF Chance they do Discover Anything, since “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree Argument” Nothing discovered will be admissible in court. You don’t have to be s Complete Prick, yet 99% of the time no one successfully talks their way out of jail, BUT plenty of idiots on a regular basis DO INFACT Talk Themselves INTO JAIL….
Keep in mind that furtive movements as an officer approaches whether reaching for documents or other things can ramp up a cop and give reason for searches. It is better to simply sit with hands in view and comply with all legal instructions. Dash cams are your best defense.
As a mechanic who regularly has to access insurance and registration, and often times have to search everywhere to find it, because the customer hides it in some random place, I'm left wondering, what is this person's plan when they get pulled over?
Seems like if the door breaks in and the people busting it down are yelling "POLICE, SEARCH WARRANT", it might be a bad time to try and defend yourself. But I hope we can all sit back and agree that no-knock warrants are absolute garbage and have no place in a free society, period.
What I'm hearing from this is: * Fitting a description of a vehicle is not a crime. * Being a "scoff-law" is not a crime. * Even if it was, Yanez wasn't aware of it. * Jumping from "the car smells like weed" to "therefore, he doesn't care about others" to "therefore, he doesn't care about me" to "therefore, he's likely to kill a police officer in broad daylight in front of witnesses" is a hell of a feat of mental gymnastics.
I was stopped for speeding about 6 months ago, I told the officer in a calm manner that I had a firearm. He told me that he was OK with that. I was calm and respectful and was given a warning to slow down. I think a calm demeanor goes a long way when dealing with law enforcement.
Then it seems not all cops respond the same way as they're human. Saying you have a gun to a cop can be implied as saying you are allowed to have it, not a threat. If Phil wanted to kill the cop he wouldn't need to warn him.
@@nomad155 Exactly! I am a retired cop. Unless said in a threatening tone of voice, I would never have taken "I have a gun" as a threat. I grew up in a 2A household. I grew up around cops. Even before my state had permits for everyday citizens and not just the connected and privileged, I recognized that many good citizens did carry outside of the law. Unfortunately, our Academies for the last thirty or more years, in trying to teach officer survival, have instilled a lot of "us vs them" paranoia into the officers they trained. Too many cops have adopted the stupid and simplistic mindset that if it has a gun and is not in a uniform, it must be a bad guy and therefore is a threat. IMHO, Philando C did nothing wrong in saying he had a gun. Reaching for it and continuing to reach for it after being told not to, was what sealed his fate.
@@grigorirasputin5020 Aren't LEO's trained to "freeze the situation/person. People/LEO who feel this officer did the right thing...always conveniently leave that out
I won't even have a beer with a steak dinner out because I value my gun rights over having a beer. That being said it's a shame that our society has become so uptight in my lifetime that we've decayed to this point. I don't know what happened in that shooting but I carried a loaded SAW for a year in Iraq, in and around Baghdad and other hostile cities where everyone I encountered I automatically presumed was hostile. I still didn't go around lighting people up. I've witnessed other soldiers panic-fire on a crowd of people because they didn't have line of sight when other troops down the line were firing over that crowd at a threat behind it, down the street. Some service members have cooler heads than others. I suspect police officers are no different. In Iraq we couldn't deny civilians the right to carry fully automatic AK-47s until we had justifiable cause to deny them the right to live. They had to be pointing the weapon at someone before we could shoot them. Those were the ROE once major combat was declared ended. Perhaps our society has too many rules for it's private citizens and not enough for those who are considered to be of elite status and supposed to be public servants? Just a thought.
What really tamed the "wild west" was not rules, regs, or judges. It was having enough people carrying guns for self defense who never concealed them and made it plain they would darn well use the gun if you made threats to them or theirs. Our forefathers and mothers were taught how to shoot both to put food on the table and as sport. Since we have fewer and fewer hunters we have fewer people learning safe gun handling. Those people with no "safe gun" knowledge are the ones who think guns can only be a danger. Those folks are the ones who jump on every police shooting knowing the gun and the cop are criminal. Even people who are licensed for open carry will be harassed by non gun types for "endangering" the public. And since these same folks have never learned anything about the Constitution and Bill of Rights they in their ignorance think THEY are the ones looking out for society. I am very sad for my country.
@@348Tobico I'm not against law and order but the fact of the matter is that law enforcement has become a fraternal masonic order within our society. We have a two tiered justice system by which the political class and bureaucracy are not held to the same standards as the common man or woman on the street. The constitution means nothing as long as the swamp creatures can get away with using it to wipe their backsides. I'd go even further as to say that nobody should need a permission slip from the government to carry a weapon, and in many states that's already the case. I'd take it another step In saying that nobody should need permission to buy a weapon either and that the way to balance out the criminal element in society would be with tougher punishment for real crime and a nationwide stand your ground culture. The fact that these conditions do not exist and that we've had half a century of a war on drugs as an excuse to incarcerate crimes without victims proves that we have a parasitic government that is the problem. When people consent to be ruled, the political class will always come up with new ways to rule them. Such has been the sum of all human history. People have always been more comfortable with chains than with freedom.
In my state there is no duty to inform, so I don't. The fact that I have a CHL comes up when an officer runs my driver's license. I've never been asked if I'm carrying, but I do have the impression that I'm treated more respectfully because I've been vetted as "good citizen" through being a CHL holder.
Exactly. I was just talking about this today with a coworker. I'm not worried about people with concealed carry licenses. Criminals don't want cops to know that they are carrying a gun and most of them wouldn't be able to get one if they tried due to having criminal record.
@@norwegianblue2017 right, but the guy on this video claims that it’s bad practice to state “I have a gun”, as if declaring such a thing is somehow evidence of ill intention unless you also declare that you have a permit. Your logic is correct that a criminal would ever want to declare their possession of a weapon, nor a would-be-criminal who is allowed to have a gun, who is planning on jumping the officer, they’d never declare they had a gun or their trap would fall apart. Any officer who becomes worried when a citizen declares they have a gun should instead become more respectful of that citizen from that point onward during the interaction. It’s the reason criminals and citizens are usually calm and respectful when interacting with cops, so it should be a two-way street. Giving that advice to not just say “I have a gun” also undermines the 2nd Amendment because in reality every citizen should be presumed to own a firearm, though unfortunately not every citizen has the wisdom to see the benefit of having one. A cop who treats everyone like they have a gun should seemingly not panic when that ubiquity is reinforced by a citizen. Instead his mentality should be to say “yep I know”, rather than “ok don’t reach for it”. If a citizen does put their hands on their gun like Philando then an officer should immediately step clear away from the window to ensure that both he and the citizen are safe from any split second movements/reactions. Then the officer can continue to retreat as he yells and instructs the citizen to place the gun on the ground outside the vehicle. It could be the simple mistake of an innocent citizen, but it helps the cop have control of an abnormal situation. And if the citizen had bad intentions then the cop can disarm the man from a distance this way, or if the citizen does not disarm himself then the cop is safely away and able to wait for backup.
My one time this happened, I was the passenger and the firearm was in the glove box, my state does not have a requirement to advise, but I consider it best practice what I said was " I need to inform you that I have a concealed pistol license and the firearm is in the glove box, what would you like me to do" his response was to leave it where it was and he thanked me for informing him after issuing the traffic warning, did not ask for my license or my CPL, everyone was safe and happy.
I don't care if the man was reaching for a wallet. He told the officer he had a gun then immediately started reaching for something in a pocket while the officers says "don't reach for it, don't pull it out, don't pull it out." then the officer rightfully shot no matter what the man was pulling out after he was told dont reach for it and don't pull it out. Stupid dies when it doesn't follow simple instructions meant for the safety of everyone. What if he was the armed robber and was pulling out a gun with the intent to shoot the officer which easily could have been the case.
Philando Castile wasn’t killed because he said that he had a gun. That’s not even remotely the problem in what happened to him. I too am a former police officer with 10 yrs., experience. I spent 90% of time, as a police officer, making traffic stops as I worked in a street crimes unit as well as a traffic unit, primarily working DWI’s. So, I’ve stopped ten of thousands of drivers on traffic stops. I’ve stopped drivers who were armed and told me that they had a firearm, which in Texas, they are required to do as a licensed citizen. I provided them with clear, concise instructions on how to proceed and I also made sure to ask where the gun was located, as well as instruct them to leave their hands where I could see them and to be slow in their movements. No one had to die the day that Philando was stopped and that falls on both the officer and Philando himself. Obviously, Philando shouldn’t have been smoking marijuana and then carrying a firearm. Unfortunately, that was just a dumb move. If the officer was thinking that this was a robbery suspect, why not do a felony stop? He admitted that he was already afraid and a felony stop makes the most sense for him to have done, since he suspected that Philando was possibly this suspect. I haven’t seen the court transcripts but since you brought it up, I can only imagine that Philando’s past traffic violation history was discussed in the trial, even though that has nothing to do with him being shot dead. Well, the officer, being trained in dealing with people who are under the influence of drugs and alcohol, probably also knew that when dealing with such people, you must be slow, repetitive and give concise instructions. In fact, if the person appears to be having comprehensive issues, it’s best to ask if they understand and before informing them to proceed. That wasn’t done. As for this not being a “race” issue because the officer is a Native American, has nothing to do with the issue as well. Police shootings hasn’t been disproportionate against “people of color”. Police shootings have been disproportionate against African Americans, specifically in multiple studies. So, this officer’s ethnicity has nothing to do with what happened. That’s the problem with most people in the U.S., we don’t study history or try to learn from it. Unfortunately, most would rather just forget the dark history of the U.S., and just write it off as a bad dream but unfortunately it did happen and it’s not pretty. People of African descent have been badly portrayed as villains throughout American history up until the 90’s. Why is that relevant? Easy, because things don’t just change in 30 years or even a century, for that matter. In the end, none of us really know what happened that day. Court trials don’t reveal all of the facts of any situation. In fact, court trials really aren’t about the truth at all. Ultimately, it all comes down to who can tell the best story and paint a picture that a jury is most likely to believe. Hence, Philando’s past traffic violation history was probably discussed in court in order to paint a picture of a person, as we heard in the video, of a someone who had no regard for the law or following rules. That’s also why most defense attorney’s have far more court experience than any assistance district attorney. I’ve also spent a lot time testifying in criminal cases also and I’ve seen it, firsthand. So, don’t be afraid to tell an officer that you have a firearm in your possession. I would suggest that you first don’t engage in any alcoholic beverages or any drugs, which would leave you under the influence, and carry a firearm. I would also suggest that you keep your hands on your steering wheel and try to relax. Being nervous, unfortunately, may put the officer on edge. Let the officer know what you’re doing before you do it and make sure that the officer is ok with you proceeding to do what you said you would do. Lastly, listen to the officer and ask any questions if you have any, without moving your hands.
Most of your comment is BS!!!! Will ARTICULATE with confidence latter!!!! SMH!!!! Have to get back to work for now!!!! HOWEVER, being very good at analyzing one's language, i will do with yours!!!! After, i then CHALLENGE you to a livestream debate!!!!
We live on the water so when we are "pulled over" we can be boarded without regard to our non-existent 4th Amendment "rights" since our home is a "vehicle" or marine vessel subject to random "safety" searches and whatever the water LEO feels is necessary without regards to any theoretical non-existent "constitutional rights" which don't actuallyp apply out on the water in practice, apparently.
Maritime rules, regulations and laws differ from land based legalities. Best to be compliant and advise officers if you have firearms on your watercraft.
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Philando Castile was WRONGFULLY MURDERED and did nothing wrong at all. He did exactly as we are all taught to do. He even had his CHILD in the vehicle. Law abiding citizen who followed the orders of the officer and went above and beyond to politely and respectfully inform the officer of his concealed carry status while he extracted his drivers license and vehicle registration. The police officer is a MURDERER who WRONGFULLY and RECKLESSLY took the life of an INNOCENT man in front of his WIFE AND CHILD. Officer should do time for manslaughter at the bare minimum.
Bad policing...cop was a twitchy, trigger-happy, nervous guy. Killing somebody over brake lights the cop would have never seen if the guy hadn't touched the brake pedal is inexcusable.
Thank you for this. I have been through a few license checks and was a passenger in a car involved in a minor traffic accident. Identifying myself as a CCW permit holder and following the Officer's instructions got me through each encounter with no negativity what so ever. One officer even joked with me and said he wanted me for his backup. So these people who try to claim it's a race issue that cause tragedies like this miss the point. If you communicate and follow instructions and make no threatening moves or comments, things go just fine.
fair enough but all the race stuff has flipped now. Blacks are now more often let go, charges dropped, etc, when compared to whites. A law abiding CCW white man now has more to fear from police than a law abiding CCW black man does. Law enforcement have become far too leery of any kind of 'hate crime' infraction. These trends are done on purpose, its called social engineering.
That’s not always the case. It sounds good, but there’s some tyrants in police uniforms that harass everyday citizens minding their business or exercising their rights. I’m glad you didn’t have any negative experiences, but unfortunately not everyone is lucky.
Cool, very good to hear. I will rember that-in the event I am in the same situation. I would hope that would help gain respect. The people who "Know it all" and "Dislike the police" have missed the big picture. My thinking maybe not popular, as my brother is LAPD.
Mas, Philando Castile didn’t say “I have a gun.” He said “Sir, I do have to tell you, I have a firearm on me.” You need to re-watch the dash cam footage and amend this. The officer instructed him not to get it out, and Castile said that he was not. It’s all on video. What is NOT on video is any evidence to support the officer’s claims.
Since you wrote," In The Gravest Extreme ", you have been a wealth of knowledge ,for the armed citizen and Law Enforcement, alike. Mr. Ayoob's tutorials should be included in every CCW class!
Back when I had the funds to do so, I used to buy copies of _In the Gravest Extreme_ to give away to acquaintances who made reckless comments about when they thought they'd be able to use lethal force.
Yeah I'm the second amendment advocates through-and-through and I have to say you're wrong sir. I watched an entire video and that man was murdered in front of his family by police. He had no way was acting threatening whether he fit the description or not is irrelevant he wasn't the individual they were looking for and he was shot to death in front of his four-year-old daughter. End of story
Firstly, Mr. Ayoob, toxicology reports were conducted as part of the investigation into the shooting of Philando Castile. The reports showed that Castile did not have any drugs or alcohol in his system at the time of his death. This information was released by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA), which conducted the investigation into the shooting. The toxicology report was one of several pieces of evidence considered during the trial of the police officer who shot Castile. So there goes you accusation of the victim being "high" or "driving around high"
@@whiteheatmarohn9827And you know that how exactly? From the videos of it you can't really tell. From what I could tell the cop acted like a coward though. Whether acquittal was right or not is different. Do I think the cop is innocent? No I think the cop should have to pay civil damages personally, but I simply can't tell without a shadow of a doubt that they are for sure guilty from the footage. Just more likely than not which isn't good enough for the criminal standard, but is for the civil one. There's a reason the PD fired the guy.
I disagree with this man. He did let the officer know he had a permit. His girl was driving, not him. His firearm was on the right side, which stands to reason sense he was right handed. His left was almost severed sense he was reaching for his wallet on his left side. The officer testified he smelled Marijuana. Not justification to shoot. Marijuana he would have had the munchies. The reason the officer was fired, the police chief said his actions were reckless. The reason officer was aquited, juries are hesitant to come down with a guilty verdict against police.
Where are you getting this stuff? Did you even watch the video? He was driving, not the girl. He didn’t say he had a permit. He said he had a firearm. He was fired because of politics, and unjustly so. He was acquitted because he did nothing wrong, and was in no way reckless.
@@jamesjohnson4159 He was fired because he is unfit to carry out police duties. The civil claim ended in the family getting $3 million in compensation for wrongful death.
@@johnnyguitar6697 He was fired because of politics. Sacrifice someone because you can get away with it and because it makes you look good. It has nothing to do with the truth. The same with the settlement. It was a nuisance amount paid to end it. Insurance carriers and Cities often settle not on the basis of what is right but what costs the least. It’s wrong but it’s what’s done.
I've had police make up all kinds of reasons for probable cause to pull me over. My dad was a master at arms in the navy (police) so I'm not anti cop but some of them want to go tactical sir
Do you ever think it might be something about how you appear or act that might get you extra attention? I drive hundreds of miles a week and have for nearly 20 years and I've been pulled over once. And on that occasion I was speeding and didn't realize traffic was going slow because the cop was there, lol.
I live in a community where cops use any excuse to pull cars over. I’ve been pulled over many times for BS reasons and all of them give me a warning…I drive an older truck and I’m a middle aged white male. I think the cops want to make sure people have car insurance and no warrants outstanding.
@@michaelhall7546 Believe it or not, when cops are behind you they can barely tell what you look like. Vehicle appearance is even more important. And driver behavior also plays a big role. The idea is to blend in. If you look like every other car, sound like every other car, drive like every other car.... Probably gonna be left alone like every other car too.
If I am stopped, I take three cards from my wallet and hold them up to the window: License, registration and concealed carry permit. That has always kept both sides comfortable. Only once was I chewed out and that was because I was NOT carrying at the time. I was advised that certified, good people (such as the two of us) should always carry.
i just put my whole wallet on the dash with my hands high up on the steering wheel. Then I don't need to reach for any pockets just the clearly visible wallet on the dash
"Sir, I do have to tell you that I have a firearm on me" is nowhere near "I have a gun." It's difficult to fathom how any rational human being can misconstrue one statement for another. Even moreso when we take into account the calm and clear manner with which Castile informed Yanez that he was in possession of a firearm. It was stated as a matter of fact, not a threat. When I was an active-duty Marine it was drilled into us that we have a professional responsibility to safeguard civilians. American or otherwise. It was our responsibility to accurately assess a situation, even a dynamic situation such as this, and apply force as necessary. Fear does not absolve an authority figure of this professional responsibility, nor should it absolve them of being held accountable for their actions. Yanez was afraid. I get that, but he swore an oath to protect and serve the public and his community. That includes putting himself in harm's way so that others may live. Yanez failed in this endeavor and resorted to lethal force under the influence of fear. The man has clearly demonstrated that he lacks the composure and judgement required of a police officer. He is fundamentally unfit for the responsibilities entrusted to him.
Yeah, Philando got murdered because he said "I've got a gun". Yeah that's why. The guy calmly told the officer he had a gun instead of just blowing his head off. Logical enough for some. Disingenuous and downright betrayal of the oath he took to others. Me in particular Then just like a rogue police officer you mention the man's traffic tickets as if that is somehow germaine to the subject at hand. As if the officer was aware of that little detail when he stopped him. No, you mentioned it to color our perception of the kid who got murdered. You should be ashamed for this one mas.
I've just lost quite a bit of respect for Mr Ayoob after this one. Using the parking tickets (which the officer wouldn't have known about) and the smell of marijuana to justify the complete overreaction of the officer is pretty disgraceful.
I see. The police officer was so concerned for the child in the backseat - due to the alleged smell of marijuana…that he fired 7 rounds into the car seat in front of the child.
This analysis is weird. If I'm a "bad guy " the LAST thing I would do is tell the officer "Sir I just wanted to tell you that I have a gun" You don't necessary have to say "Permit" or "license " I mean after all: That's COMMON SENSE if I'm CALMLY informing a Police officer that I have a Gun. If I didn't have proper documentation why would I open my mouth about a weapon to begin with. He shot this man for simply being a good citizen following the law. You can easily infer that Officer #1 was on some bullshit because if you look at the video officer #2 didn't even know what was going on or why his partner was shooting. He literally backed away like "What the hell is his problem." This whole video was wrong. "Don't tread on me" yet y'all lick the boots and kiss the ass of TYRANTS! Shameful!
In all due respect Mr. Ayoob, you just lied to everyone about what happen that day. I understand cops are skittish like a doe, but Mr. Castile assured the cop he wasn't pulling out a gun. For a better understanding, what in the hell would someone say that if they were about to shoot him? Cause he literally said, what everyone else is saying. And yes I know people have before done that and pulled out a gun but still. There was no reason why Yendez though he was. Only his word against what actually happened. Also just because his wallet is in a different pocket doesn't mean his license is there in that wallet. Secondly, even if we was high, it doesn't mean he isn't a responsible and collected person because cannibis doesn't effect you like you think it does. I've met people who are more collected and know about how to defend themselves better than you who smoke weed almost everyday. If you've never smoked how can you even cast judgment on something you know nothing of? I'd say the schmutziger schweinehunden murder caused more of a danger shooting into the car with 2 other people than if Mr. Castile was even high at the time of the shooting. Massad please, don't defend that piece of shit Yendez unless you want to be considered one too. Stop lying about what happen, cause who's to say you won't be next because some dumb cop though you were reaching after you gave them your CCL...
I don't know if that's what I would have done, actually. Guns can make one jumpy, but if the man is there with his family, and in faith, albeit stupidly and high, trying to say he does indeed have a firearm so there is no surprises. Why shoot him? Seems the man was peaceful and compliant, albeit being disoriented from the weed.
To this day...you will never get me to believe that after this man tells the cop he has a gun, its visible AND that this man is still gonna try to pull out on him when the cop is in a clearly superior position and his wife and children are in the car? Furthermore...if the cop can yell "don't do it" three times he could've pulled his taser before his gun. Forget your colleagues defense perspective and smell of marijuana. He chose to shoot that man.
There's a lot of incompetent officers and people in all professions. Frankly, this murder is a result of just that. It's a shame that we can find circumstances to mask incompetence.
Mas, do you have any specific recommendations or considerations for handling an LEO encounter as an armed citizen carrying without a permit in states that allow this?
I reviewed the video. Castillo did politely say I have a gun. Agreed he should have the officer he had a CCL. Still, I’m sure this would not of happened if Castillo was white. I wish I could have seen video from the officer’s body cam. Did the officer have any history of problem behavior.
Well unfortunately, that doesn't change the situation or make what the officer did any better or worse. Whatever happened, happened for certain reasons, and it wasn't because someone deserved to die or that anyone wanted to shoot anyone.
I teach my students to put both hands on the steering wheel at 10 & 2. Roll down the window no matter the weather and when the officer approaches, to say "My DL and CCW/CCL are in my wallet and say exactly where that wallet is located. I am 'carrying' today and my FIREARM is.... How do you want to proceed?" That puts everything in the officer's hands and makes it all clear. The two students of mine who have been stopped for a traffic violation and followed those directions were both complemented by the officer and were not issued citations.
That is exactly what I do. I was stopped last year for a tag light being out. I told the officer that my DL is in my wallet, my insurance is in the glove compartment, I have a license to carry and I have a pistol in my console - what do you want me to do? How did it end? A warning.
@@FreeAmerican-mm2my Well stated. The question: "What do you want me to do?" is a valuable one in this context and in many others. It takes the responsibility off of oneself and onto the other party, while inviting direct dialogue instead of conflict. It also makes the other party responsible for their response and they need to make it a reasonable one if it is a request.
I am not telling them about my weapon. At that point he can should do reach for it and shoot. No sir. The cops should assume the person has a gun and be cautious.
I believe the majority of LEO are worthy of my respect. I have had occasion to inform officers I was carrying. They simply asked where it was. I showed them and no further issues. A little respect goes a long way....
Never tell a police officer you have a gun. It introduces a weapon into a situation where a weapon has no place. This will likely also introduce the handling of a loaded weapon, adding unnecessary risk to what otherwise would be a routine traffic stop. This may also put the officer on edge. If asked, be honest or remain silent (as your right) but don't lie. It's better to just treat it like a normal traffic stop, then you and the officer can juat be on your way, without introducing unnecessary hazards and concerns. This is not legal advice, this is safety advice. Do with it what you will.
I was approached by LEOs while open carrying, was doing a private sale in a public place, the officer closest to me noticed my postol...he Asked me to keep my hand a away from it, I inturn, keeping my hands on the hood, told him to relieve me of it so everyone would be at ease, he did and put it in my car...they told me after all was done they wished more people would be understanding and thanked me for my cooperation.
Imbecile! If you're legally open carrying, in an open f==kin carry state, no one, cop(s) included should have said sh!+ to you! If anyone had a problem with it, they were free to leave!
@@TyroneLangam The video that shows a guy bleeding and nothing else? The guy said "i have a gun" then reaches. Do you expect a cop to just watch? have you watched the videos of cops being shit in an instant?
I just watched the video again, he said sir I have a firearm, not I’m licensed to carry, saying I have a firearm or I have a gun is the same weather you say sir or not, it’s still threatening, then he reaches for his right side where most people carry their CC, Rt he cop was justified in my opinion, he should have done exactly what the cop told him to do, it’s part of the responsibility of the licensed citizen to do so, it’s common sense as well, Mass is 100% on this, and it’s such a tragic situation, but it’s also justified.
You don't care about the life of your child because your car smells like marijuana? Holy hell. That is violently insane. Any of us would do the same if we were in the same situation and knew what he knew? That is patently false. I may have, if I believed my life was in jeopardy. I certainly would not have fired at the same point in time. You may say if he waited he would have been shot himself, I don't agree, and I believe even tenths of seconds more could have revealed fully the intent of the driver and a more reasonable determination to fire the weapon or not could have been made. Personally, even if the driver did intend to shoot me, I would have backed off and sought cover with a backstop of someone's wife and a child in the car. This is all a very gross and basic analogy, and is hyperbole, so please hold your comments.
I've always had my D.L. AND my CCW out and present so that's the first thing they see. Then I explain them that is my CCW and by Law am required to let the Officer know that I am Armed along with where the Pistol is located on me. Don't take chances. It should be just like Using a firearm, Muscle Memory. It automatically done w/o even thinking about it because I've gone over it in my mind many times. Never had any issue.
Here in North Carolina I was taught this. When pulled over by law enforcement #1 keep both hands on the steering wheel period. #2 when given the opportunity to speak, inform the officer that I have a CCH permit and either I do or I do not have a weapon on my person. I have never had a situation where "I" made an officer feel uncomfortable. If you don't want to get shot or tazed do this one simple thing , Follow instructions. Period
@@brentfarvors192 Which translates into, "I'm not going to cooperate," or even, "I'm planning to be a dick." (I will, however, allow that tone of voice and demeanor can make a major difference in how they respond.) "I don't answer questions," no matter how voiced, signals that you intend to escalate the contact into a confrontation. The cop's anxiety level rises, even if he or she is in control enough to not let it show. Both hands still on the wheel as Danny described will decrease their anxiety. The first words out of your mouth should be, as appropriate, "Police officer," "retired police officer," "concealed carry license" or whatever then #1 where the weapon is and #2 where your ID is. "Retired police officer, weapon is on my right hip, wallet is in my left hip pocket," then shut up and wait for them to tell you how to proceed.
@@neilmarsh1904 Yeah; I dont give a FCK about ANY of that!!! Never in the history of the Police has answering questions gotten someone OUT of trouble. Like it or not (This is a %100 FACT); They don't give a SINGLE chit about you, OR your innocence. All they care about is making ARRESTS!!! It's up to YOU to protect yourself, because they sure as HELL aren't going to do it!!! DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS!!!! Your lawyer will thank you later!!! NOWHERE did I say to be confrontational; "I don't answer questions, thank you (Smile)"; Then,( this is the most important part): STFU!!! Don't keep answering questions. Remain SILENT. The ONLY thing you (kind of) need to agree to, is a roadside BREATHALYZER( NEVER, EVER, EVER consent to any searches, OR most definitely not roadside "sobriety tests". Take my free advise, OR pay a lawyer $5000.00 to teach it to you.
@@neilmarsh1904 police state much? This is not how are free man behaves. I’m not a whipped dog because there’s people out there that don’t know how to obey the law
@@castiron2932 It's how a grown-up behaves. You want to bow your neck and argue? That's what courtrooms are for - do it there. I'll be blunt, you are a God damned fool if you do something that you know bloody well can escalate a contact into a confrontation just because your ego says, "Fuck with the Man."
Why would a driver, who intended to shoot a cop, first notify the cop that he had a gun? Why would a driver, who had a girlfriend and a child in the car with him, decide it was a good time to get into a shootout with a cop? While I agree with Mass that this was not a case of racial bias, obviously, I believe it was a case of gross overreaction. If the cop had time to pull his gun, he also had time to retreat toward the rear of the car, putting the driver at a distinct disadvantage and giving himself a few more seconds to assess the driver's intentions. If this sort of policing is considered acceptable, we're in big trouble.
I watched the video and read transcript again. I take it all back. My 1st impression of the case 4 yrs ago stands. The officer was afraid of his own shadow and didnt know what compliance looks like. He may have been acquitted, but he was let go by the PD and is no longer a police officer: For good reason!
imagine killing someone and all you get is fired from your job. then you have officers and formers officers defending you to the hilt despite KNOWING you were wrong. thats why people hate cops.
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.” Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.” Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
The Castle shooting was an Execution by Officer Chickenshit ! Officer CS way way over reacted , Castle announced he had a gun in a low non threatening manner and by the woman's account Castle was reaching for his wallet , but CS couldn't see because he immediately moved to the front wheel of the car , Officer CH should have taken a step to the right and he would have been able to see better of what Castle was reaching for and if Castle did pick up the gun Officer CS would have had a better chance of not getting shot in a battle , That Police Officer should not be carrying a gun , a desk job would be more appropriate and no caffeine , CS over reacted and a man is dead .
James was it because he was driving a car that matched an armed robbery or because he had a brake light out or maybe because CS smelled weed , Watch the video , At the end CS realizes he imagined that Castle had his hand on the gun , CS knew he Fk'ed up . I'm 60 and something I learned when I was a teen , When getting pulled over and the officer is existing his car I put both of my hands out the window and before he gets out of his car I put my wallet on the dash , because Police officers like to drink , I know , I have 2 in my family .
But Officers of the Law are certainly SHOT AT a lot more than any of those groups! They have no duty to receive a potentially highly lethal bullet first just to prove somebody really was trying to kill them!..........................................elsullo
Fairly disappointed in Mr Ayoub in this assessment especially giving incorrect facts. 1. It was not a “suspect” from earlier that day, it was from several days earlier that week. Yanez thought Castile was a suspect because “wide nose” 2. If Yanez truly thought he was dealing with an “armed robbery suspect” he should have employed a high risk car stop and not the casual tactics he used. A felony stop involves bringing the suspect out at gunpoint while officers are in a position of cover and having them lie on the ground until they can identify who that individual is. 3. Castile did not say “I have a gun”, he said “Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.” Those are 2 quite different statements. 4. The idea the smell of burnt marijuana is an indicator of a threat to cops safety and made Yanez fear for his life is preposterous, and typical “save a cop tactic” when it is known that marijuana tends to decrease aggression in people under its effects. Plus no marijuana was found in the car. 5. Ayoub refers implies that Castile is a scofflaw. According to reports he (Castile) had a lot traffic violations, however nearly half of them were dismissed. Unfortunately he was a victim of racial profiling. A Minnesota state commissioned study found that minority drivers were more likely than white drivers to be both stopped and searched, even though officers found contraband more often when searching white drivers. Myron Orfield, a University of Minnesota professor who was a co-author of the study, said that the findings strongly suggested widespread racial and ethnic bias in traffic enforcement. Unfortunately we can’t see what happened in the car which ultimately lead to Yanez’ acquittal. But no where does Ayoub put responsibility on the cop for not doing his job better. Castile did not deserve Capital punishment. At the end of the day we all want to go home to our families.
Thank you Same NO excuse for murder And the people that say they understand Are government jack boot lickers He probably loves gun laws I'd bet he supported all gun laws That are unconstitutional If you support any gun law. Your not pro2a If you support the law Out gunning the public Your the problem
Excellent retort. I thought I was the only one smelling the Ayoub's B.S.! His mischaracterization of Castile, the events in question and his lack of empathy for Castile's death is exactly why responsible Black gun owners fear encountering law enforcement. Oh and cops lie. I say that as a relative of former law enforcement officers. Even they were afraid of the police while out of uniform.
I respectfully disagree. I believe Castile was clearly guilty of exercising EXTREMELY poor judgement. Firstly, the strong odor of marijuana in a moving vehicle just pulled over (regardless of who was smoking) will be perceived by any police officer as a “red flag”, and a reason to be very cautious with this individual. Secondly, telling the officer you have a firearm, and then ignoring the officer’s repeated instructions to NOT take out the gun will rapidly further the appearance of threatening behavior. Even if Castile was simply trying to retrieve his permit, the police officer has no way of knowing what his actual intentions are. All the officer knows at this point is this driver’s behavior is consistent with possibly driving while impaired, the driver has announced he has a gun and permit, and is now trying to draw his weapon... All the while completely ignoring the repeated instructions to leave the weapon where it is. This kind of behavior is likely to get anyone shot, regardless of skin color.
As soon as the suspect announced that he had a gun the officer should have instructed him to show his hands and put them out the window you cannot reach for a gun with your hands out the window. I'm going to have to say this one sounds like a bad shooting.
I made a bad turn down near Vero Beach in Florida and got pulled over after I had taken my boys fishing on MLK day. When the officer walked up to my window I had my license, insurance card and my CCW in my hand with both hands on the wheel. He took the info, looked at the license, handed it back to me and thanked me. He didn’t even ask where the firearm was. He went back to his car to run my details and came back. We discussed what happened, I also had the windows down so he could see my teenage boys in the back and there was nothing hidden by my tinted windows. I got let off with a warning.
Point number 1:There was NOT a taillight out on castille's car. That was a falsehood from the police. Point number 2: Geronimo Yanez was a dangerously nervous man. When he was a participant in a traffic stop some weeks earlier, body camera video (later obtained by reporters) of him revealed that his pulse raced up to 120 BPM plus, and STAYED ELEVATED to that level for TEN MINUTES after the incident had concluded. If this had been on a live feed he probably would have been pulled off the line for medical reasons. That kind of racing heart is typical of an ongoing life or death struggle, if you are having that reaction ten minutes after driving away from a non confrontational traffic stop, you have some sort of anxiety disorder.
If you're going to make a video about exactly what to say and what not to say, don't misquote. "I've got a gun!" isn't the same as "I have to inform you I have a firearm." Whatever side of the issue you're on, accuracy matters. Stretching the truth like this isn't a good look.
Massad is a great resource but WAY off on this one. I get he wants to take the side of the police but he really laid it on thick this time and totally disregarded the well-known practice of policing in this area and the fact that Mr. Castille was pulled over 49 times in 13 years and NEVER found guilty of any serious crime/felony. Not to mention that stops were routine in this municipality to generate revenue for the state which has been well documented! A clear case of implicit bias, and state-sanctioned financial agenda to squeeze revenue from citizens with limited resources that ultimately escalates due to the interaction with a poorly trained officer. I support police, but not those clearly unfit for the job. OR needless interactions with LEOs to simply tax citizens in a municipality Ponzi scheme! Bringing up his history without evidence or context serves only to paint him as being responsible for his own death, and provide a defense for the LEO's questionable response. That is a bridge too far for me.
This sounds more like projection to me; a clear case of implicit bias on your part that you fail to recognize. Nothing that you wrote disputes anything Masaad stated in this video. Just cause he got pulled over 49 times in 13 years without conviction has no bearing on whether or not he's in the act of committing a crime in the here and now. Nor does a municipality Ponzi scheme have anything to do with it either. The officer had reason to believe the man was pulling a gun on him then and there and acted accordingly.
Around here, if you see someone pulled over.. you know they screwed up bad to be pulled over. and it's a large 600, 000 population municipality . and under Ontario law All motor vehicles are required to have a minimum of two and a maximum of four white or amber lights to the front and a minimum of one red light to the rear. So burnt out lights are not a factor. Now manufacturers need to provide more..but functionality on road is not the same under law.
@@elbryan9 Nice story. except for the fact that there is no proof whatsoever that the victim was pulling a gun. Only the Officer's word for it, after he shot the victim 7 times at point blank in a car containing a passenger and a child.
@@johnnyguitar6697 Well, apparently there was enough evidence to convince 12 jurors who had access to all the evidence to unanimously acquit the officer of all charges.
We have a duty to notify in my state. I’m also a retired officer and I teach many firearms classes. I vehemently tell my students not to use the gun word, that it causes a Pavlovian response from officers. That response usually involves them drawing their own weapon. Simply say you have a carry permit and explain where your firearm is. Don’t use the “G” word.
Yes, Yanez testified at trial that he saw a gun, but in an earlier interview after the event, he did not say he saw a gun. According to Wikipedia, the Minnesota Department of Public Safety's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension interviewed Yanez with his attorneys present. In a transcript of the interview, reported by the local newspaper City Pages, Yanez "could never state definitively ... that he saw a firearm that day". Yanez uses "various terms to suggest the presence of a firearm". Yanez states, "it appeared to me that he was wrapping something around his fingers and almost like if I were to put my hand around my gun. It was dark inside the vehicle ..." At another point "it seemed like he was pulling out a gun and the barrel just kept coming." "I know he had an object and it was dark. And he was pulling it out with his right hand." At trial, Yanez said that he saw the gun. So it depends on what you believe -- Yanez' first account of the shooting, or his second account of the shooting after he had been prepared to testify by his lawyers.
I have handed them my carry permit with my driver's license with out saying any thing. And have not had any problems at all . Massad Ayoob what is your thoughts on this approach. Thanks.
I read somewhere years ago that if you're carrying, to hand your CCW license and your driver's license together to the officer. He'll understand what you're saying and if he asks "Are you carrying?", you can say yes, tell him where the weapon is and ask him what he would like for you to do while keeping both hands on the steering wheel. That way you won't freak him/her out by saying "I have a gun". Sounds logical to me so if I ever get stopped, that's my plan of action.
The issue with that is thats not an official policy. And who’s to say saying “i have a gun” “ i have a permit” or “i have a firearm” or whatever would make a difference. There are several states where you can conceal carry without a permit so what do those people in those states so or do since a permit is nonexistent and unnecessary in those states.
@@biscaynesupercars Getting the permit is still heavily encouraged for reasons like these, so that you do have this safety net if the need arises. Here in Indiana, our Attorney General, in his Gun-Owner's Bill of Rights, encourages obtaining the CCW permit, even though we have constitutional carry.
@@Kagawwy “encouraged” still does not mean required or necessary so again permits aren’t required or mandatory in many states and more and more states are making it so that they aren’t needed at all
I'm not saying anything.....if they gotta search my car. Ima say I was scared to say anything, I didn't want you to shoot me. I'm black, rules are different for me.
Mr Ayoob, I was very much impressed with your teachings. My first exposure to your wisdom was likely in shooting magazine articles, followed by my purchase of self defense books of yours. The things that stick with me in your presentations is the calm, sensible manner you present proven practices on how to stay alive, stay within the law etc. Many people will benefit from how you show the best ways to be prepared for emergency events before they happen so we how we respond leaves us with practiced and rehearsed procedures to give us our best chances for survival should the needs arise.
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.” Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.” Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
@@Kagawwy That isn't what he said. He said, " Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.". The reason that it is important to clarify this is because the main premise of Ayoob's lie is built around the idea that the victim called out aggressively. " I HAVE A GUN!". A quick google search will show that this isn't the case. When the main premise of an argument is refuted, the entire argument falls apart. The officer pulled the victim over due to him believing that he fit the description of an armed robber. ALL police are trained to call for backup and order the suspect out of the car at gun point when it is believed that they are armed and dangerous, as an armed robber would be. The reason for this is that it creates the safest possible situation for the officer and the suspect. The officers are a safe distance away, with guns drawn and behind cover of their vehicle. The suspect's safety is increased as well, since the officers are not in close range immediate danger. Essentially, there is space between the suspect and the officer. Rather than do this, the officer proceeds to conduct a relatively normal traffic stop, even going so far as to tell the victim that he was pulled over for his broken taillight. He approaches the vehicle and is handed documents. During the conversation, the victim states , " Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me."while reaching for his insurance. The officer tells him not to grab it, and the victim says that he isn't. The officer repeats this, draws his gun, and shoots him 7 times. The victim tries to continue dispelling the officer's suspicions while dying. Some of his last words were " I wasn't reaching." The officer, yells "fuck" repeatedly. The officer never makes an attempt to secure the victims firearm. The victim was still alive, if the officer truly thought he was a threat, he would have removed the firearm. The officer never made the attempt to secure the victim. Even after shooting them, they still will handcuff the suspects. The officer easily guilty of manslaughter. His negligence led to the death of an innocent man.
@@TheRealSwampOperator Ayoob is a piece of crap. taking the word of your fellow officer to the exclusion of evidence and fact makes him a piece of crap officer.
This video from Mas has been out for nearly a year. Mas has had plenty of time to amend this or correct himself. Out of respect, I assumed he was just wrong. Now, I think he's being dishonest on purpose. It's really disappointing to see from someone I used to respect.
There was someone with no profile and no videos and no information on their channel whatsoever who made the comment, "You said, "I have never had a situation where "I" made an officer feel uncomfortable." That's a two-way street. What about the public "feeling uncomfortable"? I mean, we have no way of knowing if the person pulling us over is who they are claiming to be; There is this thing called 'impersonating an officer.' It happens all the time." ....But then, one should ask this "no name no picture" commenter this: Do you really think that the chances of a cop impersonator stopping you is GREATER than that of an irate driver (or guilty felon) with an over-developed authority issue itching to escalate any situation against the police?
Thirdly Mr. Ayoob, There are several arguments in favor of Castile's case, such as: Castile was a law-abiding citizen: Castile had a valid permit to carry a firearm and was in compliance with Minnesota state law. He had no criminal record and was not a threat to anyone. The fact that he was shot and killed despite his compliance with the law suggests that something went wrong with the police officer's judgment. The officer used excessive force: The officer who shot Castile used lethal force without adequate justification. Castile was not reaching for his weapon, nor was he behaving in a threatening manner. The officer's actions demonstrate a lack of proper training in de-escalation techniques and the use of force. Racial bias may have played a role: Castile was a Black man, and studies have shown that Black people are more likely to be killed by police officers than white people. Furthermore, the officer involved in Castile's shooting had a history of racial bias complaints. While it cannot be conclusively proven that racial bias was a factor in Castile's shooting, it is a reasonable hypothesis that cannot be ignored. The shooting was avoidable: The encounter between Castile and the officer escalated quickly and could have been de-escalated with proper communication and calmness. It is the duty of police officers to maintain the peace and protect citizens, and in this case, that duty was not fulfilled. Overall, the shooting of Philando Castile was a tragedy that could have been avoided with proper training, communication, and judgment on the part of the police officer. The case highlights the need for systemic changes within law enforcement to ensure that incidents like this do not occur again in the future.
I mean he knows more the case than I do so I'm not questioning him on this particular instance, but I'm just saying that the idea that if you say "I have a gun" means you're going to get shot is pretty ludicrous. I especially love the notion that everything will be just fine if you tell the government revenue collector that you've been a good little subject, and paid your government the appropriate amount of money so that you can exercise your right... People need to realize that police officers literally get away with murder,. Don't say a word, just hand over your license and your 2A permission slip. That's what you do in countries ruled by tyrannical government...
I’ve had several encounters with law enforcement with my firearm on me. Let them know up front and let them know you have a permit. During a accident a few years ago. The trooper was at my passenger window. Asked for my credentials. I said ( this center console has a pistol in it) before opening the lid. He said just open it and I’ll grab the gun. He took it to his car for the entire accident scene. Then gave it back to me. Another encounter was just as smooth. I stated that I have a firearm on me. The cop replied. Glad you let me know. It’s the ones that don’t tell me I’m worried about…
@@seanburnett2463 He’s referring to the people he interacts with that don’t tell him they have a firearm. The ones that don’t mention it,more than likely are the ones that are trying to surprise him with a ambush. Most criminals don’t tell a officer they have a weapon before they try to use it on them.
@@zoticus1 I know I’m not obligated to. If it makes the LEO more comfortable during the interaction fine with me. At that particular time I’m not in need of it. My firearm is to protect me from bad guys. At a traffic stop/accident scene. No bad guys are out to try an mug me. Also,it drops my percentage of being shot by a LEO significantly. Type in the search bar here on UA-cam office involved shootings. I don’t want to be featured in one.😂
When Maine adopted permitless carry in October 2015, a duty to notify became part of the law. The one time I've had contact with an officer while I was carrying (a deer crashed into my car late one night, and then fled the scene), I said "I have to notify you that I'm doing 'constitutional carry'." and he said he was fine with that.
Ayoob, with all due respect, if the cop was COMPLETELY RIGHT, he would still be a COP in Minnesota. Instead, he was EXILED. I am a "gun friendly" citizen, if I thought that this cop was justified in emptying his handgun into this motorist, I would say it, but I cannot. His own police department fired him. I agree with that. That cop either didn't have enough or GOOD ENOUGH training, or he was just a LOOSE CANNON waiting to FIRE. In my opinion, he should have been convicted of manslaughter. If he had fired only 1 or 2 rounds, maybe he would be "innocent", but when he emptied his mag into the driver, that suggests to me that he freaked out, lost all control, then stated that he "feared for his life" as a legal defense. That might work for the average civilian, but it should NOT work for a LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, who is supposed to be a HIGHLY TRAINED, DISCIPLINED, and RELIABLE human being.
He didn't say "I have a gun". He said. "Sir I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me" in a very calm voice. the cop seemed calm at first and then freaked out.
Right. Ayoob for some reason is exaggerating Castille and de emphasizing the cop.
@@palmwineguy “some reason”? He was a cop himself
Castle still did not phrase it right. Nor should be have begun to display it.
Mr. Ayoob, Thank you very much for your concern and efforts to educate the public. Your thoughts are representative of a common sense approach. Many of the subjects of your presentations are topics that need to be considered before there is an actual requirement to respond to the circumstances in question. Thank you again, DC
Thank you, Mr, Ayoob for your dedication.
Words to live by... Literally. Thank you for your wisdom.
From what I remember hearing is Castile's Permit to carry was expired on the day he was shot.
I don't see it explained in Wiki or other places but that would be important evidence, not that he deserved to die, but he did cause his fatality by being "High" and not being able to articulate "Right & Wrong".
Thank you sir for sharing your experience and insight
I’m so used to carrying I keep forgetting my gun is on me.
I don’t say anything. I very rarely get pulled over as it is but when I do I just smile and comply with whatever I’m asked to do and then I’m on my way. In our town if you have a permit, the cops don’t want to hear about it. They don’t care. People with permits usually don’t commit crimes. I can’t even afford a simple fist fight. If I get out of line just a tinch, I could lose everything! Having this right to arm myself is a real privilege and I don’t want to lose it for any reason.
I’m actually more passive since I started carrying. I reconsider everything. You have to. With all the paperwork and litigation that follows a shooting, not to mention the taking of the weapon after it’s been used, I don’t even want to deal with that.
I've found that letting the cops know that I have a gun they start acting funny. Told cop it was inside waistband at 4 o'clock and when I reached for gloves he said wanted to know what I was doing. I told him I was getting insurance and registration. He said ok he was making sure I wasn't going for gun. I told him its inside my pants. Some get nervous.
When you realize anyone with a couple hours practice can go from relaxed to gun drawn and a first shot fired in under 1 second while carrying in the waistband..... it starts to make sense why they'd be jumpy. Next time, announce you are going to make a move before you do it. "Officer, I'm going to reach my right hand over to the glove box so that I can retrieve my paperwork." That way he knows you aren't moving for the draw.
Exactly. Don’t do it. Telling cops anything they didn’t ask about is dumb. Unless it’s purposefully misleading or distracting to change the tone of the conversation (I use this one a lot)
All valid points. I just watched the video and I have to say this is a pretty gray area. The guy says I have a gun and then goes to handle it presumably to give it to the officer. The officer has to make a split second decision keeping on mind that this guy could be wanted for a crime committed earlier. Additionally there is a woman and child in the back seat. What if the officers rounds hit one of them. This was a cluster fuck on so many levels. You can't Second guess the officer but if after seeing the gun the officer retreated to the rear of the car instead of doing a mag dump on the guy things could have gone differently. Had the driver not touched the gun things could have gone differently. Now an officer and a civilian are both either dead or scared for life. A total messed up stop from start to finish. I feel for everyone involved. The moral if the officer says don't touch the gun don't touch the gun. Just sit there and wait for instructions. Bad day all around.
the problem is Philando Castile did NOT mention the word "gun" at all during the entire event
And last Mr. Ayoob:
The police officer who shot Philando Castile was Jeronimo Yanez, a member of the St. Anthony Police Department in Minnesota. Yanez had been with the department for four years and had a generally unremarkable record prior to the shooting. However, there were some complaints against Yanez for unprofessional conduct and excessive use of force prior to the shooting.
During the trial, it was revealed that Yanez had attended a training session on responding to armed suspects just two days before he shot Castile. However, the prosecution argued that Yanez's response during the shooting was not in line with the training he had received.
Yanez was charged with second-degree manslaughter and two counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm. In June 2017, he was found not guilty on all charges by a jury in Ramsey County. The verdict sparked protests in Minnesota and across the United States, with many people criticizing the criminal justice system for failing to hold police officers accountable for shootings of unarmed Black men.
Until recently here in Ohio, we had a duty to notify. The one time I was stopped while carrying, I told the officer I was carrying. He said, “if you don’t take yours out, I won’t take mine out.”
Arizona same way, told the officer it was on my right hip, he said, so is mine, you don't use yours I won't use mine
Now any mope can stick a hipoint in their waistband and not say a word to the officer during a traffic stop until they decide to deploy it. Yay!
@@JJ_SDWR That's what criminals already do regardless of permits or duty to notify.
@@JJ_SDWR If you carry a hipoint your not a gun person
@@texasblueboy1508 no shit. Same thing with carrying a clone of a common model. A sizable portion of people carrying guns are carrying guns like that in nylon clip on holsters
Yes...saying "I have a gun" can sound threatening. But that is not what he said. He calmly and respectfully said, "sir, I do have to tell you, I have a firearm on me", which doesn't sound threatening at all. Therfore with all due respect, due to such a drastic misquoting of what Mr Castile actually said, it really puts into question the rest of your assessment and opinion on the matter.
Uh oh, are you questioning the Almighty God King himself? Naughty naughty boy.🤣. With that all said you are spot on with your comment. Mas is not speaking for people of color (even though he himself is of color), and is simply putting the blame on Mr. Castille and not the mindset of police when it comes to people of color. This is the same gentleman as well as James Yeager that made videos during the protest about “if you had to shoot into a crowd”. That should explain everything there.
Actually, you can play the doubt-casting game all you want, which is what defense attorneys hope to accomplish with sheep (and many times defense attorneys successfully accomplish this with sheep), but the statement makes absolutely no difference to the rest of the factual content, sage advice, and analysis provided by Massad here.
Nice try though. You may have succeeded in fooling yourself and a number of sheep, but not anyone who is more than a half-wit.
What did he actually start to take out the weapon is the real Nitty Gritty of it all?? Someone can calmly say whatever and they can pull that gun out and shoot you did he actually start retrieving the firearm?? Anytime you pulled over by police in your caring and they ask you if you having a weapon should immediately say yes officer I have a concealed carry permit and make sure he sees your hands right hand at 10:00 o'clock left hand hanging out the door is what I do some of these guys are paranoid and they will kill you and get away with it that's the sad part
You're exactly right. Asked for ID. How was he supposed to get it. That officer should have been convicted !!
Duh he makes an excuse for every white guy who shoots anyone
Just watched the dashcam vid for the first time. The victim did not say “I HAVE A GUN!”. He politely said “Sir, I have to tell you I have a firearm on me”. Pretty big difference there.
Also - while I agree that reaching for his pockets (for whatever) was a move that could be considered threatening - it was not an imminent threat. Especially when combined with the knowledge that the suspect had just voluntarily and politely notified the officer that he was carrying.
Yes. The officer was justified to draw his weapon at that point and command the suspect to keep his hands visible. But to start pulling the trigger? No. In my mind - he would have to see that suspect’s weapon actually being drawn to justify pulling that trigger.
Mind you, at this point the officer had the drop on the suspect - having already pulled his weapon first. So long as the suspect’s weapon remained holstered - there was no imminent threat. Regardless of what the hands were doing.
Personally, I do not believe this was a good shoot.
Yt people hate blk people and the cops are a force to keep us in our place. that man did nothing wrong when he alerted the cop that he had a fire arm. That man was in the car with his wife and child if I remember correctly. We would not try to fight a cop, with our love ones in the car.
Stupidity of reaching at his pocket is not an “immediate threat”. That’s beyond stupidity. Regardless of what he said, it’s an immediate threat and he was not stopping when police wanted him to. Jonathan Diller was killed in seconds. It already too late when he pulled out that gun.
It wasn't a good shoot. And anybody who carries better think the same way, or the same thing can happen to them. This case set a precedent that you can be killed legally carrying a firearm by law enforcement, and they can be justified in doing so, as has happened in this case.
The point of the channel and of this video in particular is to try to avoid situations like this. It isn’t to justify what the cop do or did. It’s simply trying to avoid being killed and as stated in other videos, it’s better to be right and then get a settlement later, not be dead.
In other words, I can learn from Castillo’s mistakes while also not believing the cop was justified.
@@carsondenny1986 So just what mistake did you learn from Philando Castile?
Ayoob believes all cops are good cops,He's wrong.
There was no evidence by autopsy, Marijuana in the car or statements from the girlfriend to support the allegation of "odor" in the car and that's a common claim by police officers to escalate a routine stop. As to "fitting the description", I doubt many felons in flight do so with a child in the backseat. The cop had backup, granted the language used was incorrect, but being an idiot isn't a capital offense. There were alternatives and this cop acted out of irrational fear, not training or duty.
Felons run from the cops with kids all the time.
Amen
The officer discharged 7 rounds into the vehicle containing a passenger and a child...
This was my first thought too. They ALWAYS lie about smelling an "Odor". So who cares if the officer said he smelled something. Stop lying, then maybe we'll believe you.
If any citizen had made the same mistake as the officer they would have been charged with manslaughter..
"Sir, I have to tell you, I do have a firearm on me."
I recall having seen this video a long time ago, and your take on it just didn’t seem right so I had to watch it again. “Sir I have to tell you I have a firearm on me”, at which point it immediately escalated. The officer was afraid of his own shadow and that is why this person is dead. You should be making a video for the officers how to better handle this. The officer may have been acquitted of murder, but that doesn’t mean he did everything right.
Exactly. The officer is supposed to be the professional not the citizen.
AMEN!
@@brettb5089 As Massad iterated the officer was investigate and found he was not at fault, that Philando was.
@@KeyserSoze23 "We investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong."
@@KeyserSoze23 wow, you’re a real surface level guy, I take it.
"Officer I have a permit to carry and I am carrying tell me what you want me to do" Has worked for me every time.
“Sir I need to se your drivers license…don’t reach!!!…POPx7”
PC In heaven: …bruv…
@@kittysaywut: Utterly not what occurred.
Exactly. If I recall, 1. the officer asked for is credentials 2. The deceased stated he has a gun (which at that time,the officer is on high alert and don’t want him reaching for anything). 3. The deceased reaches for his GUN. 4. Officers sees gun, NOT HIS CREDENTIALS which was in another pocket and fired his service weapon
@@kittysaywut ...Typical cop-hating troll trying to stir up even more hatred where it doesn't belong. Castile caused his own death with Diamond instigating it. Plain & simple for educated people like myself. Sheesh !!!
@@tonyrenteria3186 ...He's a cop-hating troll with no education !!
I have contempt for your misstatement of the events prior to the murder of Castile. He was also before he was killed told to present his ID. If police are to be obeyed, they are solely at fault when their poor training and communication result in their giving a person what that person can only perceive as being contradictory instructions. I have also seen that video, no, there were no attempts made to pull a firearm by Castile, and nothing a reasonable person could pretend were such. Neither am I impressed by the bought lies of a supposed expert, nor persuaded of their probity by your endorsement. You are telling me the sun rises in the West. It was a grotesque miscarriage of justice for Yanez not to be convicted of manslaughter. If police are going to claim extraordinary power to arrest and give orders on pain of death to people, they must be extraordinarily correct in their apprehensions, and pay a fair penalty when they are not.
Such a forked tongue as I have just heard from Ayoob destroys all respect I have had for him individually, as the compliance of officers not too long ago in "taking a knee" has ended my respect for the profession as a whole. Also should be acknowledged by you that Yanez fellow police officer agreed there was no excuse for Yanez to shoot Castile.
I totally agree with you.
At first I thought Castile got shot because he wasn't following directions and acting like a squirrel, the more I thought about it I think it was lack of communication between Castile and the cop. "Don't pull it out" was the order given by the cop after asking for Castile's drivers license. Castile was probably only reaching for his wallet and the cop panicked. Same thing happened to me when stopped. I had to get my wallet out of my back pocket near my pistol.
I'm also thrown off by his take on the "smell of marijuana indicating recklessness". I'd say that when a cop places his hand on his firearm when no crime or suspected crime (with evidence) has been committed, that is in itself reckless and escalates the situation.
@daviddale2570 I used to drive an old beat up silver Impala, nd I'd get pulled over for fitting descriptions, and one time, it must've been an armed violent crime, cause they ran up, one on each side, guns drawn and pointed.
Id turned off the car and was rolling the window down and saw that in my mirror, so I shot my hands too the wheel so they could see them, and when they got level with the car, they saw me, shook their heads at eachother, holstered their guns and jogged back to their cars and tore off past me. Didn't even talk to me.
And I had the thought "That'd be brandishing if I did it."
Yeah I just re watched that video massad and I might recommend you rewatch it. He didn't say I have a gun. He said "I do have a firearm on me" very respectfully. The officer said okay don't reach for it. He said I won't then boom he shot seven times with A CHILD IN THE VEHICLE. you know I had a LOT of respect for you massad. But I just lost a ton of that respect
Exactly! How many times has someone had a beer, is far from drunk and an officer smells the alcohol. Does that one beer or glass of wine make you irresponsible with your family, he may have smoked a joint and was perfectly fine. I have noticed this guy always tries to frame a picture of the black guys in a negative light. He did the same for Ahmad Aubrey in his take. You watch the video and it is clear. The officer waa straight scared. Just because he is calm speaking doesn't mean he doesn't have his own opinions.
@@show2ime Yeah police have this Brotherhood it's us against them mentality and all he ever does is make excuses for the police. The police in this country have unfettered power and because of that we should be holding them to a higher standard. Not a "benefit of the doubt" standard
Glad to see so many people calling him out on this horrible take.
@@JohnathanHendrix Right this guy is full of it.
The area that shooting took place was my old stomping grounds when I was a kid. I didn't have anybody tell me this but I figured it out myself, when the party lights come on whether you're carrying or not you keep your hands glued firmly to the steering wheel.when the officer walks up. In my case I always turn the dome light on and roll all down the windows. Because it's always seems to happen at night. While my hands are firmly glued to the steering wheel if I am carrying I inform the officer at that time.. every time I have been pulled over while carrying I walked away with a warning or nothing at All the police seem to appreciate the fact that I'm up front and I'm trying to do whatever I can to make sure the situation does not escalate
Hahaha putz
Castile had his hands on the steering wheel until ordered to retrieve his license. Castile did absolutely nothing wrong. Yanez's own sergeant informed the courts that officers are supposed to order a person to keep their hands on the steering wheel, and then ask questions concerning the location of the firearm. Yanez did not do this.
His is a piece of shit officer, and Ayoob is a piece of shit for trying to paint Castile as a bad guy.
I did this and still got a ticket for 10 over headed directly 100yds from that sign where my 10 would’ve been the limit. Small town cops don’t give a shit. They want the money.
2:06 "Philando Castile says 'I have a gun.' "
That is a lie. What Mr. Castile said was "Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.” That is *_very_* different from "I have a gun."
It's a shame that Massad's long career in law enforcement has biased him in favor of the police so much that he is willing to lie in order to make a fellow cop look less trigger-happy than he actually was.
That's the way I recall the footage.
No, it's not. Firearm = gun. Just like how in the 2nd Amendment, "arms" protects modern firearm ownership.
7:13 that is assuming too much. Is one to defend himself against the confirmed use of deadly force or against the assumption that deadly force could potentially be forthcoming? No actual weapon drawn out, no defensive shots fired. If I had done the same this trigger-happy officer did not being in blue, I would not have been acquitted of all charges, I am afraid.
So many excuses for officers every time I give this channel a chance. What would a person say if youre carrying in a constitutional carry state?
Nothing.
Maybe don’t draw your weapon after the first sentence?
With your hands on the wheel: "I am legally carrying a firearm. How would you like me to proceed?"
I've been stopped 3 times while carrying and that's pretty exactly what I said. No shots fired in any of the stops.
As Max says, you show your hands and then clearly state something along the lines of "I am legally carrying a weapon/s, it is in my X pocket/X holster. How do you want me to proceed?"
Goodness, some of you guys here. It was a rhetorical question. Officers should have better training, period.
What the hell are you talking about, Mas? Castile wasn't shot while reaching into his pocket. He was shot while reaching for the glove box. The officer said so and his body cam shows so.
The shooting was bad because Castile was shot without presenting an imminent threat, acting aggressively, or even disobeying the officer's instructions. The officer kept telling Castile not to reach for the gun. Castile _wasn't_ reaching for his gun (which was under the seat, IIRC) and replied as such, which you can hear on the body cam. Still the officer only repeated his flawed instruction instead of switching to the clear, all-encompassing "freeze" or "stop moving". He pulled the trigger never having been in imminent danger or reasonably believing he was. He saw no gun, yet fired anyway, based on his assumption that the gun was in the glove box and that Castile was going to pull it out and point it at him. It was at least manslaughter. The man was fired for good reason. Fear consumed him to an extent that just can't happen in a police officer.
Exactly. Lot of boot licking happening in these comments, He’s off his rocker on this one. Completely making up a fairy tale to connect dots that don’t exist.
@Joseph Steaphens The subjectivity of concepts like reasonableness and imminency combined with the pathological degree to which many people (including prosecutors, often) give cops the benefit of all doubt, no matter how unreasonable. Far too few seem capable of asking themselves (and honestly evaluating) how they'd see it if the person weren't a cop.
Where is the testimony from the cop about reaching for the glove box. I just read the transcript. Be so kind as to point out where the cop said that.
"sir, I have a firearm".........is not "I have a gun". You wildly misquoted Mr. Castile. I went and watched the link. That police office jumped way to quick and point plank emptied that firearm into that man who willingly informed that officer after he was pulled over for a tail light. The camera doesn't show the outfit nor anything inside the car so we have only the officer's POV. Everything else aside, that police officer jumped way too easy for "sir I have a firearm" with no follow up questions like "do you have a permit for that firearm". His own direction of " don't reach for it" told HIMSELF that any move other than hands on the wheel is reaching for a firearm, and there was no direction to put hands on wheel. The family won a large settlement because they wouldn't have been able to win because it was a wrongful death. You have to be so blatantly clear with your words and direct a person in that moment. A "license and registration please"....."sir I have a firearm"..........."don't reach for it".........right there is where he convinced himself that any movement was a threat to himself. As Castile reached for his license and registration could only mean that he was reaching for a gun from the cops perspective because of his own direction. No business being a cop.
Have you ever been in a situation like the officer was in? By the time he stood placidly by while the driver got around to informing him he had a permit the officer could very well have been dead. I once had to draw and fire against a drawn weapon while working undercover. The thing that saved me was the criminal's response time. He was not expecting such a move thinking everything was going his way, but I had no choice. Had his response time have been quicker I would have been shot, and I was looking at being shot for being a cop with a lot worse odds in my favor.
@@tiredofbullcrap Are you implying that Castile was a criminal or that he had the intention of shooting that officer?
David Griffith
I totally agree with your assessment
Of what happened.
@@tiredofbullcrap You mean scared shitless at his own shadow? Clearly, that officer has no business being an officer. I know saying it's a tough job understates it by a factor of 100 but some aren't cut out for it and he displayed extremely poor decision making. Your situation was totally different because your life was in imminent danger and common wisdom dictates that you never draw when someone has the drop on you. Whatever window you had, you exploited and the only thing I can hope for is that the criminal is dead, one less a-hole in the world, thanks.
You did state that you were facing "being shot for being a cop." But you were working undercover so I don't understand that part. If your cover was blown, you're lucky you didn't get dispatched immediately. Some people are just plain evil.
@@tiredofbullcrap
*Have you ever been in a situation like the officer was in?*
irrelevant! What the op said still stands!
If the cop was so worried, he could have gotten him out of the car!
According to the dash cam video of the incident, here is the transcript:
[Officer Politely explains reason for stop]
[Philando Castile (polite tone)]: "Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me"
[Officer (calmly)]: "Ok.. ok... don't reach for it then, dont pull it out"
[PC (calmly)]: "I'm not pulling it out"
[Officer (firmly)]: "Don't pull it out!"
Officer shoots multiple times
[Girlfriend]: "You just killed my boyfriend"
[PC (still alive, but mortally wounded)]: "I wasn't reaching!"
[Girlfriend]: "He wasn't reaching!"
[Officer (extreme yell)]: "DONT PULL IT OUT!"
[Girlfriend]: "He wasn't!"
[Officer (extreme yell)]: "DONT MOVE!"
[Girlfriend]: "He wasn't!"
According to Massab, here's the transcript:
[PC] "I have a gun."
[Officer]"Don't take it out"
[Officer (escalates)]: "Don't take it out!
[Officer (escalating more)] DONT TAKE IT OUT!"
Officer shoots multiple times
PC is dead
I'll leave you to decide if there is a substantive difference between Massab's telling and the dash cam's telling.
This is the same situation in Trayvon Martin's case. George Zimmerman didn't listen to the police officer And stayed put. Instead, he went and stalked Trayvon Martin and shot and killed him, and got away with it because the jury didn't hear the 911 tape. And Massab in a magazine article uses every excuse in the book To justify George Zimmerman's murder of Trayvon Martin. I don't listen to Any advice from Massab.
The fact that Massab is a longtime acquaintance of the cop’s defense attorney says everything you need to know about his ability to analyze this situation objectively.
@lukegpb177 The sad thing is. Massad is known for looking at these situations objectively.
It looks like he dropped the ball this time.
Yea, he’s just dead wrong on this one
@@Leslie-es5ij well, I still have plenty of respect for a boob, but my opinion of Massab did go down a bit
There was no marijuana in anyones system in car when they tested so that was a lie.
I live in the state of Georgia and currently, there is no requirement to inform an officer of the law that I am carrying or that I have a permit. Also, our state legislature has recently done away with the permit requirement for carrying concealed. So, what I've gleaned from this video is that in a traffic stop, it is a good idea to have my necessary documentation (license and registration) already out where it is visible and to have both hands on my steering wheel. After that, I will use my discretion as to whether or not I should inform an officer of my carry status in a non-threatening tone (not "I've got a gun") and ask for instruction on how to proceed.
yeah, the same technique has worked for me for decades. Give the cop the drivers license along with the CCW Permit. Follow it up with both hands on the wheel and a big smile.
Due to duty to inform, Beyond Handing over, DL, CCW, Registration & Insurance Per My State Law for the documents I’m legally required to turn over during a a traffic stop.
Besides, That Any Answering of Questions on your part no matter HOW NICE the Officer Seems, IF you want to ignore the fact that they are Prodding you in order to then USE that info in order to ASSIST the officer is Fining, Incarcerating, & Taking Your Freedom From you. He/She is NOT chatting you up for shits & giggles. They are NOT doing so to establish a cordial “working” relationship with you for the remainder of the interaction. They are speaking to you in order to obtain information which they can then use in order to Arrest/Charge/Incarcerate You. IF you willingly ASSIST the Officer in throwing your own ass in jail that’s your prerogative.
That said, you have a 5Th Amendment Right For a REASON the SAME AS YOU HAVE A 4th Amendment Right Against Unlawful Searches seizure. As, IF the Officer pulls the old, “Well, IF you have nothing to HIDE THEN Why NOT let me VIOLATE your Right to Be secure in Against UnLawful/UnJust Searches & Seizures.
If they want to search your Vehicle, Then FORCE Them to (1.)-Pretend the “Smell Weed” (2.)-Call a Damn K9, Make the Handler Signal the Dog to Preform a False Alert, & when they come up EMPTY, sit back n watch them try and state, “We’ll, You MUST’VE previously had drugs in the car for the dog to “Signal” Line of Horse Shit. (3.)-Watch them bypass Any Legal Justification for a Search, Tear Your shot into Bits on the RoadSide & Then Use the States Pay out to you for Ignoring the proper methods to search a vehicle which also will guarantee that, On OFF Chance they do Discover Anything, since “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree Argument” Nothing discovered will be admissible in court.
You don’t have to be s Complete Prick, yet 99% of the time no one successfully talks their way out of jail, BUT plenty of idiots on a regular basis DO INFACT Talk Themselves INTO JAIL….
Keep in mind that furtive movements as an officer approaches whether reaching for documents or other things can ramp up a cop and give reason for searches. It is better to simply sit with hands in view and comply with all legal instructions. Dash cams are your best defense.
I don't get pulled over often, but when I do my hands are on the 10/02 steering wheel position as the officer approaches.
As a mechanic who regularly has to access insurance and registration, and often times have to search everywhere to find it, because the customer hides it in some random place, I'm left wondering, what is this person's plan when they get pulled over?
cool. now do amir locke. I'd love to hear the mental gymanastics of you justifying a legally armed person defending themselves.
Seems like if the door breaks in and the people busting it down are yelling "POLICE, SEARCH WARRANT", it might be a bad time to try and defend yourself. But I hope we can all sit back and agree that no-knock warrants are absolute garbage and have no place in a free society, period.
What I'm hearing from this is:
* Fitting a description of a vehicle is not a crime.
* Being a "scoff-law" is not a crime.
* Even if it was, Yanez wasn't aware of it.
* Jumping from "the car smells like weed" to "therefore, he doesn't care about others" to "therefore, he doesn't care about me" to "therefore, he's likely to kill a police officer in broad daylight in front of witnesses" is a hell of a feat of mental gymnastics.
Yes. Not all fears are reasonable fears.
I was stopped for speeding about 6 months ago, I told the officer in a calm manner that I had a firearm. He told me that he was OK with that. I was calm and respectful and was given a warning to slow down. I think a calm demeanor goes a long way when dealing with law enforcement.
Yes
Then it seems not all cops respond the same way as they're human. Saying you have a gun to a cop can be implied as saying you are allowed to have it, not a threat. If Phil wanted to kill the cop he wouldn't need to warn him.
@@nomad155
Exactly! I am a retired cop. Unless said in a threatening tone of voice, I would never have taken "I have a gun" as a threat. I grew up in a 2A household. I grew up around cops. Even before my state had permits for everyday citizens and not just the connected and privileged, I recognized that many good citizens did carry outside of the law. Unfortunately, our Academies for the last thirty or more years, in trying to teach officer survival, have instilled a lot of "us vs them" paranoia into the officers they trained. Too many cops have adopted the stupid and simplistic mindset that if it has a gun and is not in a uniform, it must be a bad guy and therefore is a threat.
IMHO, Philando C did nothing wrong in saying he had a gun. Reaching for it and continuing to reach for it after being told not to, was what sealed his fate.
@@grigorirasputin5020 Aren't LEO's trained to "freeze the situation/person. People/LEO who feel this officer did the right thing...always conveniently leave that out
That's exactly how you should act. Being rude or confrontational only makes it worse.
I won't even have a beer with a steak dinner out because I value my gun rights over having a beer.
That being said it's a shame that our society has become so uptight in my lifetime that we've decayed to this point.
I don't know what happened in that shooting but I carried a loaded SAW for a year in Iraq, in and around Baghdad and other hostile cities where everyone I encountered I automatically presumed was hostile. I still didn't go around lighting people up.
I've witnessed other soldiers panic-fire on a crowd of people because they didn't have line of sight when other troops down the line were firing over that crowd at a threat behind it, down the street. Some service members have cooler heads than others. I suspect police officers are no different.
In Iraq we couldn't deny civilians the right to carry fully automatic AK-47s until we had justifiable cause to deny them the right to live.
They had to be pointing the weapon at someone before we could shoot them.
Those were the ROE once major combat was declared ended.
Perhaps our society has too many rules for it's private citizens and not enough for those who are considered to be of elite status and supposed to be public servants? Just a thought.
100%
Well said sir and thanks for your service
Thank You Sir.
What really tamed the "wild west" was not rules, regs, or judges. It was having enough people carrying guns for self defense who never concealed them and made it plain they would darn well use the gun if you made threats to them or theirs. Our forefathers and mothers were taught how to shoot both to put food on the table and as sport. Since we have fewer and fewer hunters we have fewer people learning safe gun handling. Those people with no "safe gun" knowledge are the ones who think guns can only be a danger. Those folks are the ones who jump on every police shooting knowing the gun and the cop are criminal. Even people who are licensed for open carry will be harassed by non gun types for "endangering" the public. And since these same folks have never learned anything about the Constitution and Bill of Rights they in their ignorance think THEY are the ones looking out for society. I am very sad for my country.
@@348Tobico I'm not against law and order but the fact of the matter is that law enforcement has become a fraternal masonic order within our society.
We have a two tiered justice system by which the political class and bureaucracy are not held to the same standards as the common man or woman on the street.
The constitution means nothing as long as the swamp creatures can get away with using it to wipe their backsides.
I'd go even further as to say that nobody should need a permission slip from the government to carry a weapon, and in many states that's already the case. I'd take it another step In saying that nobody should need permission to buy a weapon either and that the way to balance out the criminal element in society would be with tougher punishment for real crime and a nationwide stand your ground culture. The fact that these conditions do not exist and that we've had half a century of a war on drugs as an excuse to incarcerate crimes without victims proves that we have a parasitic government that is the problem. When people consent to be ruled, the political class will always come up with new ways to rule them. Such has been the sum of all human history. People have always been more comfortable with chains than with freedom.
In my state there is no duty to inform, so I don't. The fact that I have a CHL comes up when an officer runs my driver's license. I've never been asked if I'm carrying, but I do have the impression that I'm treated more respectfully because I've been vetted as "good citizen" through being a CHL holder.
Exactly. I was just talking about this today with a coworker. I'm not worried about people with concealed carry licenses. Criminals don't want cops to know that they are carrying a gun and most of them wouldn't be able to get one if they tried due to having criminal record.
@@norwegianblue2017 right, but the guy on this video claims that it’s bad practice to state “I have a gun”, as if declaring such a thing is somehow evidence of ill intention unless you also declare that you have a permit. Your logic is correct that a criminal would ever want to declare their possession of a weapon, nor a would-be-criminal who is allowed to have a gun, who is planning on jumping the officer, they’d never declare they had a gun or their trap would fall apart. Any officer who becomes worried when a citizen declares they have a gun should instead become more respectful of that citizen from that point onward during the interaction. It’s the reason criminals and citizens are usually calm and respectful when interacting with cops, so it should be a two-way street.
Giving that advice to not just say “I have a gun” also undermines the 2nd Amendment because in reality every citizen should be presumed to own a firearm, though unfortunately not every citizen has the wisdom to see the benefit of having one. A cop who treats everyone like they have a gun should seemingly not panic when that ubiquity is reinforced by a citizen. Instead his mentality should be to say “yep I know”, rather than “ok don’t reach for it”. If a citizen does put their hands on their gun like Philando then an officer should immediately step clear away from the window to ensure that both he and the citizen are safe from any split second movements/reactions. Then the officer can continue to retreat as he yells and instructs the citizen to place the gun on the ground outside the vehicle. It could be the simple mistake of an innocent citizen, but it helps the cop have control of an abnormal situation. And if the citizen had bad intentions then the cop can disarm the man from a distance this way, or if the citizen does not disarm himself then the cop is safely away and able to wait for backup.
My one time this happened, I was the passenger and the firearm was in the glove box, my state does not have a requirement to advise, but I consider it best practice what I said was " I need to inform you that I have a concealed pistol license and the firearm is in the glove box, what would you like me to do" his response was to leave it where it was and he thanked me for informing him after issuing the traffic warning, did not ask for my license or my CPL, everyone was safe and happy.
And as we see your encounter could've turned out differently had you ran across a Philando Castile type officer.
I don't care if the man was reaching for a wallet. He told the officer he had a gun then immediately started reaching for something in a pocket while the officers says "don't reach for it, don't pull it out, don't pull it out." then the officer rightfully shot no matter what the man was pulling out after he was told dont reach for it and don't pull it out. Stupid dies when it doesn't follow simple instructions meant for the safety of everyone.
What if he was the armed robber and was pulling out a gun with the intent to shoot the officer which easily could have been the case.
Philando Castile wasn’t killed because he said that he had a gun. That’s not even remotely the problem in what happened to him. I too am a former police officer with 10 yrs., experience. I spent 90% of time, as a police officer, making traffic stops as I worked in a street crimes unit as well as a traffic unit, primarily working DWI’s. So, I’ve stopped ten of thousands of drivers on traffic stops. I’ve stopped drivers who were armed and told me that they had a firearm, which in Texas, they are required to do as a licensed citizen. I provided them with clear, concise instructions on how to proceed and I also made sure to ask where the gun was located, as well as instruct them to leave their hands where I could see them and to be slow in their movements. No one had to die the day that Philando was stopped and that falls on both the officer and Philando himself.
Obviously, Philando shouldn’t have been smoking marijuana and then carrying a firearm. Unfortunately, that was just a dumb move. If the officer was thinking that this was a robbery suspect, why not do a felony stop? He admitted that he was already afraid and a felony stop makes the most sense for him to have done, since he suspected that Philando was possibly this suspect. I haven’t seen the court transcripts but since you brought it up, I can only imagine that Philando’s past traffic violation history was discussed in the trial, even though that has nothing to do with him being shot dead. Well, the officer, being trained in dealing with people who are under the influence of drugs and alcohol, probably also knew that when dealing with such people, you must be slow, repetitive and give concise instructions. In fact, if the person appears to be having comprehensive issues, it’s best to ask if they understand and before informing them to proceed. That wasn’t done.
As for this not being a “race” issue because the officer is a Native American, has nothing to do with the issue as well. Police shootings hasn’t been disproportionate against “people of color”. Police shootings have been disproportionate against African Americans, specifically in multiple studies. So, this officer’s ethnicity has nothing to do with what happened.
That’s the problem with most people in the U.S., we don’t study history or try to learn from it. Unfortunately, most would rather just forget the dark history of the U.S., and just write it off as a bad dream but unfortunately it did happen and it’s not pretty. People of African descent have been badly portrayed as villains throughout American history up until the 90’s. Why is that relevant? Easy, because things don’t just change in 30 years or even a century, for that matter.
In the end, none of us really know what happened that day. Court trials don’t reveal all of the facts of any situation. In fact, court trials really aren’t about the truth at all. Ultimately, it all comes down to who can tell the best story and paint a picture that a jury is most likely to believe. Hence, Philando’s past traffic violation history was probably discussed in court in order to paint a picture of a person, as we heard in the video, of a someone who had no regard for the law or following rules. That’s also why most defense attorney’s have far more court experience than any assistance district attorney. I’ve also spent a lot time testifying in criminal cases also and I’ve seen it, firsthand.
So, don’t be afraid to tell an officer that you have a firearm in your possession. I would suggest that you first don’t engage in any alcoholic beverages or any drugs, which would leave you under the influence, and carry a firearm. I would also suggest that you keep your hands on your steering wheel and try to relax. Being nervous, unfortunately, may put the officer on edge. Let the officer know what you’re doing before you do it and make sure that the officer is ok with you proceeding to do what you said you would do. Lastly, listen to the officer and ask any questions if you have any, without moving your hands.
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We live on the water so when we are "pulled over" we can be boarded without regard to our non-existent 4th Amendment "rights" since our home is a "vehicle" or marine vessel subject to random "safety" searches and whatever the water LEO feels is necessary without regards to any theoretical
non-existent "constitutional rights" which don't actuallyp apply out on the water in practice, apparently.
This is just reality.
That's messed up
yeah bs coastal maritime laws applied to inland waters.
You can always buy a double-wide trailer.
Maritime rules, regulations and laws differ from land based legalities. Best to be compliant and advise officers if you have firearms on your watercraft.
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Philando Castile was WRONGFULLY MURDERED and did nothing wrong at all. He did exactly as we are all taught to do. He even had his CHILD in the vehicle. Law abiding citizen who followed the orders of the officer and went above and beyond to politely and respectfully inform the officer of his concealed carry status while he extracted his drivers license and vehicle registration. The police officer is a MURDERER who WRONGFULLY and RECKLESSLY took the life of an INNOCENT man in front of his WIFE AND CHILD.
Officer should do time for manslaughter at the bare minimum.
Bad policing...cop was a twitchy, trigger-happy, nervous guy. Killing somebody over brake lights the cop would have never seen if the guy hadn't touched the brake pedal is inexcusable.
Thank you for this. I have been through a few license checks and was a passenger in a car involved in a minor traffic accident. Identifying myself as a CCW permit holder and following the Officer's instructions got me through each encounter with no negativity what so ever. One officer even joked with me and said he wanted me for his backup. So these people who try to claim it's a race issue that cause tragedies like this miss the point. If you communicate and follow instructions and make no threatening moves or comments, things go just fine.
fair enough but all the race stuff has flipped now. Blacks are now more often let go, charges dropped, etc, when compared to whites. A law abiding CCW white man now has more to fear from police than a law abiding CCW black man does. Law enforcement have become far too leery of any kind of 'hate crime' infraction. These trends are done on purpose, its called social engineering.
That’s not always the case. It sounds good, but there’s some tyrants in police uniforms that harass everyday citizens minding their business or exercising their rights. I’m glad you didn’t have any negative experiences, but unfortunately not everyone is lucky.
Same experience for me.
The race baiters don’t like your statement! To them you are a victim and you should be scared of police and guns.
Cool, very good to hear. I will rember that-in the event I am in the same situation. I would hope that would help gain respect. The people who "Know it all" and "Dislike the police" have missed the big picture. My thinking maybe not popular, as my brother is LAPD.
Mas, Philando Castile didn’t say “I have a gun.” He said “Sir, I do have to tell you, I have a firearm on me.” You need to re-watch the dash cam footage and amend this.
The officer instructed him not to get it out, and Castile said that he was not. It’s all on video. What is NOT on video is any evidence to support the officer’s claims.
Ayoob probably saw the whole report on the incident. You did not.
@@MrTPF1 I’ve seen the dashcam footage. Freely available on YT. Look it up. Mas is wrong here.
Exactly!!!!! They are trying to paint Phil in a bad light and I'm not having it!
@@MrTPF1 eat one
@@CarolinaRimfire exactly
Since you wrote," In The Gravest Extreme ", you have been a wealth of knowledge ,for the armed citizen and Law Enforcement, alike. Mr. Ayoob's tutorials should be included in every CCW class!
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Yeah I'm the second amendment advocates through-and-through and I have to say you're wrong sir. I watched an entire video and that man was murdered in front of his family by police. He had no way was acting threatening whether he fit the description or not is irrelevant he wasn't the individual they were looking for and he was shot to death in front of his four-year-old daughter. End of story
Firstly, Mr. Ayoob, toxicology reports were conducted as part of the investigation into the shooting of Philando Castile. The reports showed that Castile did not have any drugs or alcohol in his system at the time of his death. This information was released by the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA), which conducted the investigation into the shooting. The toxicology report was one of several pieces of evidence considered during the trial of the police officer who shot Castile.
So there goes you accusation of the victim being "high" or "driving around high"
He did not say he was high he said the car smelled of weed.
@@RiverrockphotosWhich officers regularly lie about as justification when they're in hot water
Irrelevant, the guy reached for his gun. He paid for his stupidity.
@@whiteheatmarohn9827And you know that how exactly? From the videos of it you can't really tell. From what I could tell the cop acted like a coward though. Whether acquittal was right or not is different. Do I think the cop is innocent? No I think the cop should have to pay civil damages personally, but I simply can't tell without a shadow of a doubt that they are for sure guilty from the footage. Just more likely than not which isn't good enough for the criminal standard, but is for the civil one. There's a reason the PD fired the guy.
@Lady-V you must be fun when you are pulled over with your Karen attitude. Have a happy day.
I disagree with this man. He did let the officer know he had a permit. His girl was driving, not him. His firearm was on the right side, which stands to reason sense he was right handed. His left was almost severed sense he was reaching for his wallet on his left side. The officer testified he smelled Marijuana. Not justification to shoot. Marijuana he would have had the munchies. The reason the officer was fired, the police chief said his actions were reckless. The reason officer was aquited, juries are hesitant to come down with a guilty verdict against police.
Where are you getting this stuff? Did you even watch the video? He was driving, not the girl. He didn’t say he had a permit. He said he had a firearm. He was fired because of politics, and unjustly so. He was acquitted because he did nothing wrong, and was in no way reckless.
@@jamesjohnson4159 He was fired because he is unfit to carry out police duties. The civil claim ended in the family getting $3 million in compensation for wrongful death.
@@johnnyguitar6697 He was fired because of politics. Sacrifice someone because you can get away with it and because it makes you look good. It has nothing to do with the truth. The same with the settlement. It was a nuisance amount paid to end it. Insurance carriers and Cities often settle not on the basis of what is right but what costs the least. It’s wrong but it’s what’s done.
I've had police make up all kinds of reasons for probable cause to pull me over. My dad was a master at arms in the navy (police) so I'm not anti cop but some of them want to go tactical sir
Do you ever think it might be something about how you appear or act that might get you extra attention? I drive hundreds of miles a week and have for nearly 20 years and I've been pulled over once. And on that occasion I was speeding and didn't realize traffic was going slow because the cop was there, lol.
I live in a community where cops use any excuse to pull cars over. I’ve been pulled over many times for BS reasons and all of them give me a warning…I drive an older truck and I’m a middle aged white male. I think the cops want to make sure people have car insurance and no warrants outstanding.
@@theKashConnoisseur I look like a preppy guy. Polo shirts, slacks. Nice haircut
@@michaelhall7546 Believe it or not, when cops are behind you they can barely tell what you look like. Vehicle appearance is even more important. And driver behavior also plays a big role. The idea is to blend in. If you look like every other car, sound like every other car, drive like every other car.... Probably gonna be left alone like every other car too.
@@theKashConnoisseur this small town Arkansas. Pop. 7500. 35mph Yes can see you and probably know you
If I am stopped, I take three cards from my wallet and hold them up to the window: License, registration and concealed carry permit. That has always kept both sides comfortable. Only once was I chewed out and that was because I was NOT carrying at the time. I was advised that certified, good people (such as the two of us) should always carry.
i just put my whole wallet on the dash with my hands high up on the steering wheel. Then I don't need to reach for any pockets just the clearly visible wallet on the dash
"Sir, I do have to tell you that I have a firearm on me" is nowhere near "I have a gun." It's difficult to fathom how any rational human being can misconstrue one statement for another. Even moreso when we take into account the calm and clear manner with which Castile informed Yanez that he was in possession of a firearm. It was stated as a matter of fact, not a threat.
When I was an active-duty Marine it was drilled into us that we have a professional responsibility to safeguard civilians. American or otherwise. It was our responsibility to accurately assess a situation, even a dynamic situation such as this, and apply force as necessary. Fear does not absolve an authority figure of this professional responsibility, nor should it absolve them of being held accountable for their actions.
Yanez was afraid. I get that, but he swore an oath to protect and serve the public and his community. That includes putting himself in harm's way so that others may live. Yanez failed in this endeavor and resorted to lethal force under the influence of fear. The man has clearly demonstrated that he lacks the composure and judgement required of a police officer. He is fundamentally unfit for the responsibilities entrusted to him.
Yeah, Philando got murdered because he said "I've got a gun".
Yeah that's why. The guy calmly told the officer he had a gun instead of just blowing his head off. Logical enough for some. Disingenuous and downright betrayal of the oath he took to others. Me in particular
Then just like a rogue police officer you mention the man's traffic tickets as if that is somehow germaine to the subject at hand. As if the officer was aware of that little detail when he stopped him. No, you mentioned it to color our perception of the kid who got murdered.
You should be ashamed for this one mas.
I've just lost quite a bit of respect for Mr Ayoob after this one. Using the parking tickets (which the officer wouldn't have known about) and the smell of marijuana to justify the complete overreaction of the officer is pretty disgraceful.
I see. The police officer was so concerned for the child in the backseat - due to the alleged smell of marijuana…that he fired 7 rounds into the car seat in front of the child.
This analysis is weird. If I'm a "bad guy " the LAST thing I would do is tell the officer "Sir I just wanted to tell you that I have a gun"
You don't necessary have to say "Permit" or "license " I mean after all: That's COMMON SENSE if I'm CALMLY informing a Police officer that I have a Gun. If I didn't have proper documentation why would I open my mouth about a weapon to begin with. He shot this man for simply being a good citizen following the law. You can easily infer that Officer #1 was on some bullshit because if you look at the video officer #2 didn't even know what was going on or why his partner was shooting. He literally backed away like "What the hell is his problem." This whole video was wrong. "Don't tread on me" yet y'all lick the boots and kiss the ass of TYRANTS! Shameful!
In all due respect Mr. Ayoob, you just lied to everyone about what happen that day. I understand cops are skittish like a doe, but Mr. Castile assured the cop he wasn't pulling out a gun. For a better understanding, what in the hell would someone say that if they were about to shoot him? Cause he literally said, what everyone else is saying. And yes I know people have before done that and pulled out a gun but still. There was no reason why Yendez though he was. Only his word against what actually happened. Also just because his wallet is in a different pocket doesn't mean his license is there in that wallet. Secondly, even if we was high, it doesn't mean he isn't a responsible and collected person because cannibis doesn't effect you like you think it does. I've met people who are more collected and know about how to defend themselves better than you who smoke weed almost everyday. If you've never smoked how can you even cast judgment on something you know nothing of? I'd say the schmutziger schweinehunden murder caused more of a danger shooting into the car with 2 other people than if Mr. Castile was even high at the time of the shooting.
Massad please, don't defend that piece of shit Yendez unless you want to be considered one too.
Stop lying about what happen, cause who's to say you won't be next because some dumb cop though you were reaching after you gave them your CCL...
I don't know if that's what I would have done, actually. Guns can make one jumpy, but if the man is there with his family, and in faith, albeit stupidly and high, trying to say he does indeed have a firearm so there is no surprises. Why shoot him? Seems the man was peaceful and compliant, albeit being disoriented from the weed.
To this day...you will never get me to believe that after this man tells the cop he has a gun, its visible AND that this man is still gonna try to pull out on him when the cop is in a clearly superior position and his wife and children are in the car? Furthermore...if the cop can yell "don't do it" three times he could've pulled his taser before his gun. Forget your colleagues defense perspective and smell of marijuana. He chose to shoot that man.
There's a lot of incompetent officers and people in all professions. Frankly, this murder is a result of just that. It's a shame that we can find circumstances to mask incompetence.
You obviously didn't listen to this very clear explanation of why this case was not a murder or even manslaughter.
Mas, do you have any specific recommendations or considerations for handling an LEO encounter as an armed citizen carrying without a permit in states that allow this?
Good question. Georgia just became a constitutional carry state.
Yeah, don’t even mention it unless they ask. That’s a good way to handle police in general.
@@Baman21 it’s cop protecting cop narrative and old school racism if I had to guess why he is paraphrasing “ I gota gun!” Not what he says at all …
I reviewed the video. Castillo did politely say I have a gun. Agreed he should have the officer he had a CCL. Still, I’m sure this would not of happened if Castillo was white. I wish I could have seen video from the officer’s body cam. Did the officer have any history of problem behavior.
Philandro Castille was my buddy's cousin. He was a good man. He didn't deserve to die.
Well unfortunately, that doesn't change the situation or make what the officer did any better or worse. Whatever happened, happened for certain reasons, and it wasn't because someone deserved to die or that anyone wanted to shoot anyone.
Sorry for your loss but he did 2 stupid things which cost him his lifle
@@robertfink1126 Living in Minnesota and legally carrying a pistol?
@@bbeen40being black and living in Minnesota seems to be a death sentence
@@bilboswaggens2975🧢
I teach my students to put both hands on the steering wheel at 10 & 2. Roll down the window no matter the weather and when the officer approaches, to say "My DL and CCW/CCL are in my wallet and say exactly where that wallet is located. I am 'carrying' today and my FIREARM is.... How do you want to proceed?"
That puts everything in the officer's hands and makes it all clear.
The two students of mine who have been stopped for a traffic violation and followed those directions were both complemented by the officer and were not issued citations.
That’s exactly right.
That is exactly what I do. I was stopped last year for a tag light being out. I told the officer that my DL is in my wallet, my insurance is in the glove compartment, I have a license to carry and I have a pistol in my console - what do you want me to do? How did it end? A warning.
@@FreeAmerican-mm2my Well stated. The question: "What do you want me to do?" is a valuable one in this context and in many others. It takes the responsibility off of oneself and onto the other party, while inviting direct dialogue instead of conflict. It also makes the other party responsible for their response and they need to make it a reasonable one if it is a request.
Not mumble..."yo pig" as hand dives into the console?
I am not telling them about my weapon. At that point he can should do reach for it and shoot. No sir. The cops should assume the person has a gun and be cautious.
I believe the majority of LEO are worthy of my respect. I have had occasion to inform officers I was carrying. They simply asked where it was. I showed them and no further issues. A little respect goes a long way....
Lol, watch a month of First Amendment Auditors and that'll cure your problem.
Don’t show them where your gun is - tell them. No unnecessary (and dangerous) movements until the cop is sure you’re one of the ‘good guys.’
@@m4rvinmartian I believe those "audits" to be tailored to elicit an unsatisfactory response. I know I would give one.....
You're in the minority. You're also suffering from Dunning Kruger effect. It's not to late to be a real American Benedict Arnold
@@mtkoslowski You're internalizing the commands of your oppressors. I mean this with all due respect,,,grow a pair!
Never tell a police officer you have a gun. It introduces a weapon into a situation where a weapon has no place. This will likely also introduce the handling of a loaded weapon, adding unnecessary risk to what otherwise would be a routine traffic stop. This may also put the officer on edge.
If asked, be honest or remain silent (as your right) but don't lie.
It's better to just treat it like a normal traffic stop, then you and the officer can juat be on your way, without introducing unnecessary hazards and concerns.
This is not legal advice, this is safety advice. Do with it what you will.
They were both in the wrong. That being said a police officer is not just a normal person. Police SHOULD be held to a higher standard then civilians.
I was approached by LEOs while open carrying, was doing a private sale in a public place, the officer closest to me noticed my postol...he Asked me to keep my hand a away from it, I inturn, keeping my hands on the hood, told him to relieve me of it so everyone would be at ease, he did and put it in my car...they told me after all was done they wished more people would be understanding and thanked me for my cooperation.
Wait, he approached and detained you because he saw you open carrying? In a open carry state? If so he needs to be fired...
the proper reply was to tell him to F off and that he should get a job in a Nazi Democrat state...
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@@BadCaseAn interaction doesn’t necessarily equate to detained.
Imbecile! If you're legally open carrying, in an open f==kin carry state, no one, cop(s) included should have said sh!+ to you! If anyone had a problem with it, they were free to leave!
Thank you for good solid teachings on how to and how not to handle situations that can make all the difference in the world.
Bruh Philando was the most calm and nonthreatening human in that video.
@cameraflyer Did you actually watch the video
@@TyroneLangam The video that shows a guy bleeding and nothing else? The guy said "i have a gun" then reaches. Do you expect a cop to just watch? have you watched the videos of cops being shit in an instant?
I just watched the video again, he said sir I have a firearm, not I’m licensed to carry, saying I have a firearm or I have a gun is the same weather you say sir or not, it’s still threatening, then he reaches for his right side where most people carry their CC, Rt he cop was justified in my opinion, he should have done exactly what the cop told him to do, it’s part of the responsibility of the licensed citizen to do so, it’s common sense as well, Mass is 100% on this, and it’s such a tragic situation, but it’s also justified.
You don't care about the life of your child because your car smells like marijuana? Holy hell. That is violently insane. Any of us would do the same if we were in the same situation and knew what he knew? That is patently false. I may have, if I believed my life was in jeopardy. I certainly would not have fired at the same point in time. You may say if he waited he would have been shot himself, I don't agree, and I believe even tenths of seconds more could have revealed fully the intent of the driver and a more reasonable determination to fire the weapon or not could have been made. Personally, even if the driver did intend to shoot me, I would have backed off and sought cover with a backstop of someone's wife and a child in the car. This is all a very gross and basic analogy, and is hyperbole, so please hold your comments.
Massad, I have owned all your books on self protection for years and love hearing about your experiences on video too.
You're the best! 👍🏻
I've always had my D.L. AND my CCW out and present so that's the first thing they see. Then I explain them that is my CCW and by Law am required to let the Officer know that I am Armed along with where the Pistol is located on me. Don't take chances. It should be just like Using a firearm, Muscle Memory. It automatically done w/o even thinking about it because I've gone over it in my mind many times. Never had any issue.
Here in North Carolina I was taught this. When pulled over by law enforcement #1 keep both hands on the steering wheel period. #2 when given the opportunity to speak, inform the officer that I have a CCH permit and either I do or I do not have a weapon on my person.
I have never had a situation where "I" made an officer feel uncomfortable. If you don't want to get shot or tazed do this one simple thing , Follow instructions. Period
I personally just go with "I don't answer questions"
@@brentfarvors192 Which translates into, "I'm not going to cooperate," or even, "I'm planning to be a dick." (I will, however, allow that tone of voice and demeanor can make a major difference in how they respond.)
"I don't answer questions," no matter how voiced, signals that you intend to escalate the contact into a confrontation. The cop's anxiety level rises, even if he or she is in control enough to not let it show.
Both hands still on the wheel as Danny described will decrease their anxiety. The first words out of your mouth should be, as appropriate, "Police officer," "retired police officer," "concealed carry license" or whatever then #1 where the weapon is and #2 where your ID is. "Retired police officer, weapon is on my right hip, wallet is in my left hip pocket," then shut up and wait for them to tell you how to proceed.
@@neilmarsh1904 Yeah; I dont give a FCK about ANY of that!!! Never in the history of the Police has answering questions gotten someone OUT of trouble. Like it or not (This is a %100 FACT); They don't give a SINGLE chit about you, OR your innocence. All they care about is making ARRESTS!!! It's up to YOU to protect yourself, because they sure as HELL aren't going to do it!!! DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS!!!! Your lawyer will thank you later!!! NOWHERE did I say to be confrontational; "I don't answer questions, thank you (Smile)"; Then,( this is the most important part): STFU!!! Don't keep answering questions. Remain SILENT. The ONLY thing you (kind of) need to agree to, is a roadside BREATHALYZER( NEVER, EVER, EVER consent to any searches, OR most definitely not roadside "sobriety tests". Take my free advise, OR pay a lawyer $5000.00 to teach it to you.
@@neilmarsh1904 police state much? This is not how are free man behaves. I’m not a whipped dog because there’s people out there that don’t know how to obey the law
@@castiron2932 It's how a grown-up behaves. You want to bow your neck and argue? That's what courtrooms are for - do it there.
I'll be blunt, you are a God damned fool if you do something that you know bloody well can escalate a contact into a confrontation just because your ego says, "Fuck with the Man."
Why would a driver, who intended to shoot a cop, first notify the cop that he had a gun? Why would a driver, who had a girlfriend and a child in the car with him, decide it was a good time to get into a shootout with a cop? While I agree with Mass that this was not a case of racial bias, obviously, I believe it was a case of gross overreaction. If the cop had time to pull his gun, he also had time to retreat toward the rear of the car, putting the driver at a distinct disadvantage and giving himself a few more seconds to assess the driver's intentions. If this sort of policing is considered acceptable, we're in big trouble.
I watched the video and read transcript again. I take it all back. My 1st impression of the case 4 yrs ago stands. The officer was afraid of his own shadow and didnt know what compliance looks like. He may have been acquitted, but he was let go by the PD and is no longer a police officer: For good reason!
imagine killing someone and all you get is fired from your job. then you have officers and formers officers defending you to the hilt despite KNOWING you were wrong. thats why people hate cops.
Thank you for the calm level headed commentary... or explanation
Most appreciated!!
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
The Castle shooting was an Execution by Officer Chickenshit !
Officer CS way way over reacted , Castle announced he had a gun in a low non threatening manner and by the woman's account Castle was reaching for his wallet , but CS couldn't see because he immediately moved to the front wheel of the car , Officer CH should have taken a step to the right and he would have been able to see better of what Castle was reaching for and if Castle
did pick up the gun Officer CS would have had a better chance of not getting shot in a battle , That Police Officer should not be carrying a gun , a desk job would be more appropriate and no caffeine , CS over reacted and a man is dead .
This was stupidity by Castillo. The officer reacted appropriately. Castillo was responsible for his own death.
Correction, Castile.
James was it because he was driving a car that matched an armed robbery or because he had a brake light out or maybe because CS smelled weed , Watch the video , At the end CS realizes he imagined that Castle had his hand on the gun , CS knew he Fk'ed up .
I'm 60 and something I learned when I was a teen , When getting pulled over and the officer is existing his car I put both of my hands out the window and before he gets out of his car I put my wallet on the dash , because Police officers like to drink , I know , I have 2 in my family .
The cop panicked! It was not a justifiable shoot. I do not agree with your opinion. Today I lost respect of your professional opinion
Police or ex-police will always defend their fellow officers so his "expertise" means nothing.
For people who die on the job a lot less than truckers, farmers, and pizza delivery drivers, police sure do spook easily.
Even railroad workers are at more danger!
Add Loggers, Roofers, Oil Field Workers, Road Crews, and some others
But Officers of the Law are certainly SHOT AT a lot more than any of those groups! They have no duty to receive a potentially highly lethal bullet first just to prove somebody really was trying to kill them!..........................................elsullo
Fairly disappointed in Mr Ayoub in this assessment especially giving incorrect facts.
1. It was not a “suspect” from earlier that day, it was from several days earlier that week. Yanez thought Castile was a suspect because “wide nose”
2. If Yanez truly thought he was dealing with an “armed robbery suspect” he should have employed a high risk car stop and not the casual tactics he used. A felony stop involves bringing the suspect out at gunpoint while officers are in a position of cover and having them lie on the ground until they can identify who that individual is.
3. Castile did not say “I have a gun”, he said “Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.” Those are 2 quite different statements.
4. The idea the smell of burnt marijuana is an indicator of a threat to cops safety and made Yanez fear for his life is preposterous, and typical “save a cop tactic” when it is known that marijuana tends to decrease aggression in people under its effects. Plus no marijuana was found in the car.
5. Ayoub refers implies that Castile is a scofflaw. According to reports he (Castile) had a lot traffic violations, however nearly half of them were dismissed. Unfortunately he was a victim of racial profiling. A Minnesota state commissioned study found that minority drivers were more likely than white drivers to be both stopped and searched, even though officers found contraband more often when searching white drivers. Myron Orfield, a University of Minnesota professor who was a co-author of the study, said that the findings strongly suggested widespread racial and ethnic bias in traffic enforcement.
Unfortunately we can’t see what happened in the car which ultimately lead to Yanez’ acquittal. But no where does Ayoub put responsibility on the cop for not doing his job better. Castile did not deserve Capital punishment. At the end of the day we all want to go home to our families.
Thank you
Same
NO excuse for murder
And the people that say they understand
Are government jack boot lickers
He probably loves gun laws
I'd bet he supported all gun laws
That are unconstitutional
If you support any gun law.
Your not pro2a
If you support the law
Out gunning the public
Your the problem
Excellent retort. I thought I was the only one smelling the Ayoub's B.S.! His mischaracterization of Castile, the events in question and his lack of empathy for Castile's death is exactly why responsible Black gun owners fear encountering law enforcement.
Oh and cops lie. I say that as a relative of former law enforcement officers. Even they were afraid of the police while out of uniform.
I respectfully disagree. I believe Castile was clearly guilty of exercising EXTREMELY poor judgement. Firstly, the strong odor of marijuana in a moving vehicle just pulled over (regardless of who was smoking) will be perceived by any police officer as a “red flag”, and a reason to be very cautious with this individual. Secondly, telling the officer you have a firearm, and then ignoring the officer’s repeated instructions to NOT take out the gun will rapidly further the appearance of threatening behavior. Even if Castile was simply trying to retrieve his permit, the police officer has no way of knowing what his actual intentions are. All the officer knows at this point is this driver’s behavior is consistent with possibly driving while impaired, the driver has announced he has a gun and permit, and is now trying to draw his weapon... All the while completely ignoring the repeated instructions to leave the weapon where it is.
This kind of behavior is likely to get anyone shot, regardless of skin color.
@@r.stanley1049 he wasn't driving
And this bootlicking at it finest
I really hope you live in commie California and or New York
Where you belong
I smell pot
He's a dangerous to everyone in the car
So I'll shoot it up with 7 rounds of 45
There... now everyone is safe
As soon as the suspect announced that he had a gun the officer should have instructed him to show his hands and put them out the window you cannot reach for a gun with your hands out the window. I'm going to have to say this one sounds like a bad shooting.
*Just because it smells like Marijuana doesn't mean he didn't care for others.*
I made a bad turn down near Vero Beach in Florida and got pulled over after I had taken my boys fishing on MLK day. When the officer walked up to my window I had my license, insurance card and my CCW in my hand with both hands on the wheel. He took the info, looked at the license, handed it back to me and thanked me. He didn’t even ask where the firearm was. He went back to his car to run my details and came back. We discussed what happened, I also had the windows down so he could see my teenage boys in the back and there was nothing hidden by my tinted windows. I got let off with a warning.
Treating police interactions like a wild bear encounter maybe suggests that things aren't the way they're supposed to be.
Point number 1:There was NOT a taillight out on castille's car. That was a falsehood from the police. Point number 2: Geronimo Yanez was a dangerously nervous man. When he was a participant in a traffic stop some weeks earlier, body camera video (later obtained by reporters) of him revealed that his pulse raced up to 120 BPM plus, and STAYED ELEVATED to that level for TEN MINUTES after the incident had concluded. If this had been on a live feed he probably would have been pulled off the line for medical reasons. That kind of racing heart is typical of an ongoing life or death struggle, if you are having that reaction ten minutes after driving away from a non confrontational traffic stop, you have some sort of anxiety disorder.
If you're going to make a video about exactly what to say and what not to say, don't misquote.
"I've got a gun!" isn't the same as "I have to inform you I have a firearm."
Whatever side of the issue you're on, accuracy matters. Stretching the truth like this isn't a good look.
He’s wrong on this one. Calm and confidently wrong
It's crazy how yall are sooooo pro 2a until it's a black person.
Massad is a great resource but WAY off on this one. I get he wants to take the side of the police but he really laid it on thick this time and totally disregarded the well-known practice of policing in this area and the fact that Mr. Castille was pulled over 49 times in 13 years and NEVER found guilty of any serious crime/felony. Not to mention that stops were routine in this municipality to generate revenue for the state which has been well documented! A clear case of implicit bias, and state-sanctioned financial agenda to squeeze revenue from citizens with limited resources that ultimately escalates due to the interaction with a poorly trained officer. I support police, but not those clearly unfit for the job. OR needless interactions with LEOs to simply tax citizens in a municipality Ponzi scheme! Bringing up his history without evidence or context serves only to paint him as being responsible for his own death, and provide a defense for the LEO's questionable response. That is a bridge too far for me.
I try to believe the 2A family wants everyone but I'm really not sure anymore
This sounds more like projection to me; a clear case of implicit bias on your part that you fail to recognize. Nothing that you wrote disputes anything Masaad stated in this video. Just cause he got pulled over 49 times in 13 years without conviction has no bearing on whether or not he's in the act of committing a crime in the here and now. Nor does a municipality Ponzi scheme have anything to do with it either. The officer had reason to believe the man was pulling a gun on him then and there and acted accordingly.
Around here, if you see someone pulled over.. you know they screwed up bad to be pulled over. and it's a large 600, 000 population municipality .
and under Ontario law
All motor vehicles are required to have a minimum of two and a maximum of four white or amber lights to the front and a minimum of one red light to the rear.
So burnt out lights are not a factor.
Now manufacturers need to provide more..but functionality on road is not the same under law.
@@elbryan9 Nice story. except for the fact that there is no proof whatsoever that the victim was pulling a gun. Only the Officer's word for it, after he shot the victim 7 times at point blank in a car containing a passenger and a child.
@@johnnyguitar6697 Well, apparently there was enough evidence to convince 12 jurors who had access to all the evidence to unanimously acquit the officer of all charges.
We have a duty to notify in my state. I’m also a retired officer and I teach many firearms classes. I vehemently tell my students not to use the gun word, that it causes a Pavlovian response from officers. That response usually involves them drawing their own weapon. Simply say you have a carry permit and explain where your firearm is. Don’t use the “G” word.
@Captain Skippy he did not use the gun word. He said “Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.”
Yes, Yanez testified at trial that he saw a gun, but in an earlier interview after the event, he did not say he saw a gun.
According to Wikipedia, the Minnesota Department of Public Safety's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension interviewed Yanez with his attorneys present. In a transcript of the interview, reported by the local newspaper City Pages, Yanez "could never state definitively ... that he saw a firearm that day". Yanez uses "various terms to suggest the presence of a firearm". Yanez states, "it appeared to me that he was wrapping something around his fingers and almost like if I were to put my hand around my gun. It was dark inside the vehicle ..." At another point "it seemed like he was pulling out a gun and the barrel just kept coming." "I know he had an object and it was dark. And he was pulling it out with his right hand."
At trial, Yanez said that he saw the gun.
So it depends on what you believe -- Yanez' first account of the shooting, or his second account of the shooting after he had been prepared to testify by his lawyers.
I have handed them my carry permit with my driver's license with out saying any thing. And have not had any problems at all . Massad Ayoob what is your thoughts on this approach. Thanks.
I read somewhere years ago that if you're carrying, to hand your CCW license and your driver's license together to the officer. He'll understand what you're saying and if he asks "Are you carrying?", you can say yes, tell him where the weapon is and ask him what he would like for you to do while keeping both hands on the steering wheel. That way you won't freak him/her out by saying "I have a gun". Sounds logical to me so if I ever get stopped, that's my plan of action.
The issue with that is thats not an official policy. And who’s to say saying “i have a gun” “ i have a permit” or “i have a firearm” or whatever would make a difference. There are several states where you can conceal carry without a permit so what do those people in those states so or do since a permit is nonexistent and unnecessary in those states.
@@biscaynesupercars Getting the permit is still heavily encouraged for reasons like these, so that you do have this safety net if the need arises.
Here in Indiana, our Attorney General, in his Gun-Owner's Bill of Rights, encourages obtaining the CCW permit, even though we have constitutional carry.
@@Kagawwy “encouraged” still does not mean required or necessary so again permits aren’t required or mandatory in many states and more and more states are making it so that they aren’t needed at all
I'm not saying anything.....if they gotta search my car. Ima say I was scared to say anything, I didn't want you to shoot me. I'm black, rules are different for me.
You can craft plans of action and practice lines until the cows come home, doesn't mean it's gonna work.
Mr Ayoob, I was very much impressed with your teachings. My first exposure to your wisdom was likely in shooting magazine articles, followed by my purchase of self defense books of yours. The things that stick with me in your presentations is the calm, sensible manner you present proven practices on how to stay alive, stay within the law etc. Many people will benefit from how you show the best ways to be prepared for emergency events before they happen so we how we respond leaves us with practiced and rehearsed procedures to give us our best chances for survival should the needs arise.
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
"I have a firearm" Is what he says. firearm = gun
@@Kagawwy
That isn't what he said. He said, " Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.". The reason that it is important to clarify this is because the main premise of Ayoob's lie is built around the idea that the victim called out aggressively. " I HAVE A GUN!". A quick google search will show that this isn't the case. When the main premise of an argument is refuted, the entire argument falls apart.
The officer pulled the victim over due to him believing that he fit the description of an armed robber. ALL police are trained to call for backup and order the suspect out of the car at gun point when it is believed that they are armed and dangerous, as an armed robber would be. The reason for this is that it creates the safest possible situation for the officer and the suspect. The officers are a safe distance away, with guns drawn and behind cover of their vehicle. The suspect's safety is increased as well, since the officers are not in close range immediate danger. Essentially, there is space between the suspect and the officer.
Rather than do this, the officer proceeds to conduct a relatively normal traffic stop, even going so far as to tell the victim that he was pulled over for his broken taillight. He approaches the vehicle and is handed documents. During the conversation, the victim states , " Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me."while reaching for his insurance. The officer tells him not to grab it, and the victim says that he isn't. The officer repeats this, draws his gun, and shoots him 7 times.
The victim tries to continue dispelling the officer's suspicions while dying. Some of his last words were " I wasn't reaching." The officer, yells "fuck" repeatedly. The officer never makes an attempt to secure the victims firearm. The victim was still alive, if the officer truly thought he was a threat, he would have removed the firearm. The officer never made the attempt to secure the victim. Even after shooting them, they still will handcuff the suspects.
The officer easily guilty of manslaughter. His negligence led to the death of an innocent man.
Ayoob is a cop
@@TheRealSwampOperator Ayoob is a piece of crap. taking the word of your fellow officer to the exclusion of evidence and fact makes him a piece of crap officer.
This video from Mas has been out for nearly a year. Mas has had plenty of time to amend this or correct himself. Out of respect, I assumed he was just wrong. Now, I think he's being dishonest on purpose. It's really disappointing to see from someone I used to respect.
There was someone with no profile and no videos and no information on their channel whatsoever who made the comment, "You said, "I have never had a situation where "I" made an officer feel uncomfortable."
That's a two-way street. What about the public "feeling uncomfortable"? I mean, we have no way of knowing if the person pulling us over is who they are claiming to be; There is this thing called 'impersonating an officer.' It happens all the time."
....But then, one should ask this "no name no picture" commenter this: Do you really think that the chances of a cop impersonator stopping you is GREATER than that of an irate driver (or guilty felon) with an over-developed authority issue itching to escalate any situation against the police?
Thirdly Mr. Ayoob,
There are several arguments in favor of Castile's case, such as:
Castile was a law-abiding citizen: Castile had a valid permit to carry a firearm and was in compliance with Minnesota state law. He had no criminal record and was not a threat to anyone. The fact that he was shot and killed despite his compliance with the law suggests that something went wrong with the police officer's judgment.
The officer used excessive force: The officer who shot Castile used lethal force without adequate justification. Castile was not reaching for his weapon, nor was he behaving in a threatening manner. The officer's actions demonstrate a lack of proper training in de-escalation techniques and the use of force.
Racial bias may have played a role: Castile was a Black man, and studies have shown that Black people are more likely to be killed by police officers than white people. Furthermore, the officer involved in Castile's shooting had a history of racial bias complaints. While it cannot be conclusively proven that racial bias was a factor in Castile's shooting, it is a reasonable hypothesis that cannot be ignored.
The shooting was avoidable: The encounter between Castile and the officer escalated quickly and could have been de-escalated with proper communication and calmness. It is the duty of police officers to maintain the peace and protect citizens, and in this case, that duty was not fulfilled.
Overall, the shooting of Philando Castile was a tragedy that could have been avoided with proper training, communication, and judgment on the part of the police officer. The case highlights the need for systemic changes within law enforcement to ensure that incidents like this do not occur again in the future.
I mean he knows more the case than I do so I'm not questioning him on this particular instance, but I'm just saying that the idea that if you say "I have a gun" means you're going to get shot is pretty ludicrous.
I especially love the notion that everything will be just fine if you tell the government revenue collector that you've been a good little subject, and paid your government the appropriate amount of money so that you can exercise your right...
People need to realize that police officers literally get away with murder,. Don't say a word, just hand over your license and your 2A permission slip.
That's what you do in countries ruled by tyrannical government...
He didn't get shot because he said he had a gun. He got shot because he DREW it after he was told not to touch it.
I’ve had several encounters with law enforcement with my firearm on me. Let them know up front and let them know you have a permit. During a accident a few years ago. The trooper was at my passenger window. Asked for my credentials. I said ( this center console has a pistol in it) before opening the lid. He said just open it and I’ll grab the gun. He took it to his car for the entire accident scene. Then gave it back to me. Another encounter was just as smooth. I stated that I have a firearm on me. The cop replied. Glad you let me know. It’s the ones that don’t tell me I’m worried about…
That’s a clown comment 100s if thousands of people have a gun around him everyday that he doesn’t know about.
@@seanburnett2463 He’s referring to the people he interacts with that don’t tell him they have a firearm. The ones that don’t mention it,more than likely are the ones that are trying to surprise him with a ambush. Most criminals don’t tell a officer they have a weapon before they try to use it on them.
Why would you hand over your weapon when you haven't a legal obligation to?
@@zoticus1 I know I’m not obligated to. If it makes the LEO more comfortable during the interaction fine with me. At that particular time I’m not in need of it. My firearm is to protect me from bad guys. At a traffic stop/accident scene. No bad guys are out to try an mug me. Also,it drops my percentage of being shot by a LEO significantly. Type in the search bar here on UA-cam office involved shootings. I don’t want to be featured in one.😂
When Maine adopted permitless carry in October 2015, a duty to notify became part of the law. The one time I've had contact with an officer while I was carrying (a deer crashed into my car late one night, and then fled the scene), I said "I have to notify you that I'm doing 'constitutional carry'." and he said he was fine with that.
Cool no one asked.
Ayoob, with all due respect, if the cop was COMPLETELY RIGHT, he would still be
a COP in Minnesota. Instead, he was EXILED. I am a "gun friendly" citizen, if I
thought that this cop was justified in emptying his handgun into this motorist,
I would say it, but I cannot. His own police department fired him. I agree
with that. That cop either didn't have enough or GOOD ENOUGH training,
or he was just a LOOSE CANNON waiting to FIRE.
In my opinion, he should have been convicted of manslaughter. If he had
fired only 1 or 2 rounds, maybe he would be "innocent", but when he
emptied his mag into the driver, that suggests to me that he freaked out,
lost all control, then stated that he "feared for his life" as a legal defense.
That might work for the average civilian, but it should NOT work for
a LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, who is supposed to be a HIGHLY
TRAINED, DISCIPLINED, and RELIABLE human being.