@@yaboipete4678 It's not enough for me that this game will be "right" on PC. I wanted this game to be right on all systems (PS4 for me), but only the modders on PC will be able to properly play Sonic 3 & Knuckles
The worst part is that some members of MJ's music team (Cirocco Jones and Doug Grigsby III) have passed away, meaning these tracks will remain forever frozen in legal limbo.
@@yoman8027 No idea to be honest. Even if all the members of MJ's team die Sega still has to deal with their legal representants (if they had hired one) as well the MJ Estate for any legality involved to these tracks and Sega doesn't seem interested in dealing with them and going through legal headaches just for a few songs given the few ports of S3 in the past and now, the music replacement.
This was actually the first Sonic game I managed to beat, actually, I think this was the first game I beat Period. Then I found out it's supposed to be just the first half of a full game XD
@@jamrah8713 That's pretty subjective. The Classic Sonic music is entirely different from Modern Sonic music. Even in the Modern titles, some people might prefer 90s rock and pop of the Adventure Games.
@@That_Guy- Honestly I’d prefer if the proto played in act 2 rather than the original ice cap act 2 theme. Even if it’s not as good, it fits the snowy surface of ice cap very well and would have added more variety than just having the same song with a few instruments removed.
Origins ost is literally the proto but with a few flat notes and it sounds like the device was shoved under a pillow and is muffled. I was dissapointed, as someone who enjoys the proto tracks, they really screwed up
It's definitely the way the music is. As someone who didn't grow up with Sonic 3 but heard the song in multiple fangames, I can't help but feel the nostalgia.
I never owned a Genesis but my cousin did and this music reminds me of the times I used to go over his house just to play this game and other ones too.
The #1 Runaway Guys Fan I guess so...i just feel sad. I'm not that old, just 26, yet generations of teens today don't even know what it was like to grow up being a Genesis or SNES kid with the legitimate originals of these games...it feels strange to hear the first meeting with the original Sonic games being on Gamecube. Soon enough teens will only remember their first meeting with Sonic being on phone and iOS too, or worse, youtube let's plays, or what the internet has created out of the legacy of the Sonic fandom, how strange will that be i wonder..?
I don't know if anybody else feels like this but whenever I listen to this song it has this weird emotional/nostalgic aura around it, it's hard to describe but this song is great
I'm just now hearing where this song comes from, it's one of the "omnipresent internet songs" along with Kevin Mcleod's classic's and the Undertale soundtrack
The song in origins completley changes the tone of the level. This was always my favourite part of Sonic 3 and this song is a big part of it. Ah well, atleast I can mod in the original music.
@@xtrwombat4876 You can emulate Sonic 3 on damn near any computer/cheap emulation handheld/hacked console with 100% accuracy. Like, you find an old piece of crap computer with Windows XP, a tiny hard drive, and 512MB of RAM in a dumpster and it can run Sonic 3. Shit, buying a Genesis on eBay and a copy of Sonic 3 isn’t even that expensive.
I try to not turn Super at all during the stage itself because the Invincibility theme gets really repetitive really quick. I only do it at the boss fights, that's where things get boring for me What really stinks is that if I try to fly, I go Super, and ruins the music.
@@Love2HateU dude Hydrocity still plays the same music from the og sonic 3. They only changed the music tracks for Carnival Night, Ice cap and Launch base zones.
@@toyotagazooracer4455 It would've been great, but copyright is a bitch. I choose to think that it's good enough that we got the scene at all to begin with.
Fun fact: Did you know Brad Buxer's team also worked on their own compositions for Angel Island, Hydrocity and Marble Garden? That means we almost lived in the timeline where they composed for every zone. Just wanted to put that out there.
@@cattysplat I wouldn't count on it. The OST we have was handpicked from the two sets of songs that each team made, and it was decided that Sonic Team's versions fit the first three zones better. We only know about the missing songs because Cirocco Jones' old website Music Powers had a section for "Levels 2 & 3", meaning he worked on Hydrocity and Marble Garden. It's likely those songs will never reach the public though.
Rest in Peace SonicKai. I didn’t see any of your videos until recently, and I only found out about your passing a few days ago. Today marks 4 years since your passing, so I’d just like to pay my respects…
Ah the overwhelming feeling of nostalgia, how I welcome it. Every track was a banger. It's amazing how these great tracks were created back in the day when technology wasn't as advanced as today. I had a great childhood, and I'll always have a blast when I play these games again.
Cada año la escucho en mis cumpleaños...y recuerdo lo feliz que era en mi infancia, es cómo volver en el tiempo por unos minutos y sentir que el mundo era mucho mas cálido.
Every year I listen to it on my birthdays ... and I remember how happy I was in my childhood, it's like going back in time for a few minutes and feeling that the world was too warm.
***** well the reason im cautious is that sega could not get the rights to the vocals of toot toot sonic warrior you can do anything, or cosmic eternity for the jp soundtrack of sonic cd because the lead singer died, same situation as Michael Jackson
Ahaha, some of my first memories ever are from me playing Sonic 1 and 2, so my life (at least what I can remember from it) did start around that time xD
Yeah. I hate it if I become super sonic and have to hear that annoying SS theme instead off this amazing song. I purposely keep my shield up to the boss.
I prefer this a lot over the ACT 2 version. It's a lot more calm and nostalgic, it gives off a weird vibe, like I'm about to cry when I pay too much attention to it or listen to it for a longer amount of time. It's so sentimental, yet encouraging you to stay determined, so calm, yet expressive.
Although I am happy that they are going to use the music of the prototype, I will not deny that losing Hard times is a hard blow :(. At the very least I wish the remix would recover part of that essence or melody, so that it is not lost completely.
Honestly this is the only one i liked more than the beta ones Mj music is great but it wasn't that great on the game in comparision to the original ones But hard times? That's a *hard* punch in the ass that they are gonna change it
Today it was announced by an inside source for the Sonic Origin devs that the OST has been compromised with a new soundtrack based on the prototype, meaning that even beloved Ice Cap Zone theme has become obsolete... "We can't use all of the original sounds [from S3&K]. Jun Senoue has been working really hard to adapt the original music that was composed in 1993 for Origins" Rip OG Sonic 3 and Knux music 1994-2022
I didn't even know... This is one of those rare moments where I'm not even sad, just disappointed. I know we're not going to get another collection like this for a long time.
@Axeldorf I'm pretty sure SEGA just needs to pay up to use the tracks, but they refuse to do so, so SEGA let their fans down AGAIN. How they gonna call this Sonic Origins, and remove the ORIGINAL experience from the game? SEGA knows their upsetting fans, but I guess they don't care enough to make things right for their fans
@@awesomeboss2020 Well, to be fair I don't think SEGA owns ANY of the classic sonic music except for CD and a majority of the sonic 3 soundtrack. They still gotta pay royalties for Sonic 1 and 2, so in reality the royalties were probably higher than it would be to finish their old prototype songs. Not like those are bad either, Launch Base Prototype slaps.
Goodbye Hard Times, it's likely that these Ice Cap Zone tracks along with some other S3&K tracks are gonna be replaced with the original music adapted by Jun Senoue in Sonic Origins.
As I can remember guys, YES! Michael Jackson "composed" Ice Cap Zone, but the song was inspired from the song Hard Times, Ice Cap Zone is a remix of Hard Times, so we can say that Michael Jackson was the main arranger of this song :) (AS I REMEMBER)
***** Giordan Diodato I put "composed" because Michael Jackson fans xD :'v but Jackson was the main arranger, that is so true :) I was trying to explain to Michael Jackson fans that he is not the composer, I'm one of his fans, of course! but I know that Buxer composed this :) but.. for the other Michael fans is another thing :/
MJ and Brad did such an excellent work together (Beautiful Girl, Im The Loser, Stranger In Moscow, Days in Gloucestershire, and many unheard ones), i believe they also did MJ's "Space Dance" from Space Channel 5, or at least Brad using MJ ad-libs... Update: in 2016 Brad stated that they worked on almost 41 high-instrumental-quality tracks (i mean, not SEGA console compressed sound). >> mjhideout.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2275874&postcount=47
+TheLNashProject Ha, the one you have to push up and down to make move? I had to call Sega's tip hotlline and the guy told me they had more calls about that than anything else in the entire time he had worked there.
+TheLNashProject Me too! I felt so dumb when I finally figured out how to do it. Just jump into it and hold down when you land on it, then repeating till you sink low enough, then jump off on the lower level!
+TheLNashProject Hahaha omg I know the barrel you mean!! I was the exact same (was always desperately trying to get to the Ice Cap Zone cause it's my fav!) but you have to go up down up down on that damn barrel lol (I was pretty good at computer games but that bit took me aaaages to figure out lol). Great comment made me laugh anyway. Ahhh those were the good ole days! :-D
@@UltimatusMemelus Have you heard the lyrics of the song that this is based off of? (Hard Times by The Jetzons) Cuz the lyrics go even more emotional...
Ice Cap is the reason I love Ice levels in videogames so much. The music and the stage itself are so wonderfully crafted and I guess as a kid wanting to experience this feeling over and over again made me really appreciate Ice/Snow levels.
this music always makes me feel so emotional, i'm so sad it was replaced in origins as well as some other classics :( sonic 3 will always hold a special place in my heart
There was a part where Sonic leaped and scraped the side of the mountain and a crescendo played and my heart jumped thinking it was the start of this song and that we were going to hear a remix of it play next. Definitely a missed opportunity...
RIP Ice Cap Zone. You've officially been retconned out by (a butchered remix of) your prototype predecessor and will be dearly missed. Hopefully someone mods you back into the PC version one day...
Oh god, it took me watching a UA-cam video 15 years later to figure out that Casino Nights Zone barrel. Not even joking. Before that, the only way I was able to pass it was by glitching through it as Super Sonic.
This has always been my favorite Sonic soundtrack from the Genesis days! I couldn't believe when I found out it's also so closest to a real song, probably the closest out of any Sonic 3 song. Of course, several songs in Sonic 1 & 2 were based very closely on actual songs by Dreams Come True.
Ice Cap is my favorite Classic Sonic game level. I wish they put this level in Sonic Generations instead of Sky Sanctuary. Don't get me wrong Sky Sanctuary is a fantastic level. Well that's what mods are for I guess.
That was because SEGA don't own the rights to the song, something about have multiple composers and shit, one of which may or may not have been MJ, which is why on the PC version of S3&K the music for carnival night, ice cap and launch base were changed.
Sky Sanctuary is my second favorite level in Generations, though I don't care for it in S&K.. I kind of agree with you, but then again, I'd love to play a modern remake of EVERY classic Sonic's levels, not only Ice Cap, so yeah.. The snowboarding would be awesome btw
While I do agree, I'm sure you're aware of the legal struggle this song (as well as others) faces preventing its use. Or I dunno! Maybe they totally could have used it and just missed tf out! Fairly certain the former is the main reason for its lack of appearance, though.
This is my favorite theme from this game, hands down. I remember making a remix of this with two cassette tapes and pause/cutting them together. Good times. Should do a proper remix sometime.
“There are three things that we cry for in life; things that are lost, things that are found, and things that are magnificent.” - Douglas Coupland …To call the original Ice Cap music lost would be an understatement… RIP to this amazing soundtrack
I come back to this song at least once a year to cry at 3 AM. I miss playing my DSI at night and listening to the music. This one was always my favorite but I flew through the levels so fast. So I restarted after beating this zone to listen to it more. I didn’t have a computer to listen to it on YT so I just stayed on this zone..
This song has to be one of the best winter/snow themes in a video game ever, along with Snowman from the Mother series and that one ice level from Metriod Prime. I will the play Sonic 4 and Knuckles just to hear this.
@@Sososaure No, the MJ enterprise has been basically impossible to work with since his death. They simply could not get the rights to the songs, and it seems like they really tried as before this they never re-released Sonic 3&K in any modified sense
The Music in the Original Sonic games is musically more talented then virtually 98% of anything that's been on the actual pop music top 40 in like 15-20 years.
After the nightmare that was the Carnival Zone arriving to the Ice Cap Zone, Sonic landing on a snowboard while this tune playing is one of the most badass moments of my childhood
@3rd Way They aren't garbage. Carnival night prototype is better than the original. Origins just butchered them. This is FACTUAL Ice Cap- Original>Prototype Carnival Night- Original>Prototype Launch Base- Original=Prototype This is fact
@@chilliorganism I still listen to this since this game came out in the 90's.Still have the original genesis model 1 and i can agree that this is the most beautiful song specially with headphones
Pra muitos que não tiveram a honra: a fita do sonic the hedgehog 3 era acoplado num adaptador do sonic knuckles após isso vc jogava a campanha dos 2 jogos juntos... simplesmente espetacular... mega drive forever,😍😍
![Sonic the Hedgehog 3 - 8 Minutes of Movie Scenes [HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcJG3_MLyk4/mqdefault.jpg)
We lost a real one today. Pour one out for the loss of a great song
Riiipp :((
😥 It just won't be the same
Noooooo
Best song in Sonic 3 & Knuckles
We've mourned it so many times and continue to do so. I wish the parties involved in the legal cases cared about the fans more than self-interest
You haven't lived until you've snowboarded to this.
Cover it, I know you wanna do it
bruh now i wanna try it
yes
Will do
This is the best song in the whole game. I played Sonic The Hedgehog 3 so much during my childhood.
Ice Cap is just not the same without this
I'm glad someone agrees
I wonder if I could run Sonic 3 AIR with the ROMs I get from Sonic Origins...
Remember modders
@@yaboipete4678 It's not enough for me that this game will be "right" on PC. I wanted this game to be right on all systems (PS4 for me), but only the modders on PC will be able to properly play Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Yeah it really isn't the same.
The worst part is that some members of MJ's music team (Cirocco Jones and Doug Grigsby III) have passed away, meaning these tracks will remain forever frozen in legal limbo.
Doesn't the rights expire after certain time after the author's death?
@@yoman8027 No idea to be honest. Even if all the members of MJ's team die Sega still has to deal with their legal representants (if they had hired one) as well the MJ Estate for any legality involved to these tracks and Sega doesn't seem interested in dealing with them and going through legal headaches just for a few songs given the few ports of S3 in the past and now, the music replacement.
@@death_the_d0g Fuck... copyright laws are a headache.
@@yoman8027 Yes, 70 years after the author's death, or 95 years after publication for corporations. It will be a long wait.
This song is nothing to do with MJ. It's Hard Times by The Jetzons from 1984: ua-cam.com/video/q9sdsclDwas/v-deo.html
I'll admit that getting through this game as a kid was indeed hard times, but they were still the happiest days of my life
*jetzons intensifies*
I see what you did thare
When I get hurt in life, I have to quickly ask myself, "Who is it?"
This was actually the first Sonic game I managed to beat, actually, I think this was the first game I beat Period.
Then I found out it's supposed to be just the first half of a full game XD
Hard Times.
We are gathered here today to mourn the loss of a much loved Ice Cap... you will be missed in Origins.
Hey look it's an unleash
@@reservoir4798 wow, havent seen one in years
Unless the fans mod it back in which I think they already did
screw origins its og lockon time
MODS MADE IT HAPPEN 🥳
It continues to blow my mind how every single Sonic song is just banger after banger after banger after banger...
fr tho there literally isn’t one bad song
Except sonic 06 music?
@@Patrick-wc8lt Even Sonic 06 has music like Wave Ocean
@@Patrick-wc8lt sonic 06 arguably has the best sonic soundtrack for any sonic game
@@jamrah8713 That's pretty subjective. The Classic Sonic music is entirely different from Modern Sonic music. Even in the Modern titles, some people might prefer 90s rock and pop of the Adventure Games.
Feels good to come back to this after the origins track replacement
Neither Origins or the Beta work as well as hard times, dude, it's just too good
@Fish_Gaming420 the proto sucks and you know it, the origins version is even worse
@@That_Guy- Honestly I’d prefer if the proto played in act 2 rather than the original ice cap act 2 theme. Even if it’s not as good, it fits the snowy surface of ice cap very well and would have added more variety than just having the same song with a few instruments removed.
@@That_Guy- The Origins version sounds almost identical to proto aside from a few instrumental differences.
Origins ost is literally the proto but with a few flat notes and it sounds like the device was shoved under a pillow and is muffled. I was dissapointed, as someone who enjoys the proto tracks, they really screwed up
@Nuko_Giko proto is too cheesy
i've never really played sonic but listening to this music makes me feel nostalgic about how i miss playing the game
I swear shared nostalgia must be a real thing.
Wait, i'm confused.
you've never played Sonic. but you miss it?
how does that make sense?
It's definitely the way the music is. As someone who didn't grow up with Sonic 3 but heard the song in multiple fangames, I can't help but feel the nostalgia.
I never owned a Genesis but my cousin did and this music reminds me of the times I used to go over his house just to play this game and other ones too.
@@TheFormalFools the soundtrack for sonic was that good😁
10 years later and I'm still listening to this
Actually it's 9 1/2 But Close Enough
+Heather Radtke Bro do you even Sega Genesis? This game came out in 1994
+Spoodermen More like 20
MrInuhanyou123 I'm sure he meant on a compilation for the Gamecube.
The #1 Runaway Guys Fan
I guess so...i just feel sad.
I'm not that old, just 26, yet generations of teens today don't even know what it was like to grow up being a Genesis or SNES kid with the legitimate originals of these games...it feels strange to hear the first meeting with the original Sonic games being on Gamecube.
Soon enough teens will only remember their first meeting with Sonic being on phone and iOS too, or worse, youtube let's plays, or what the internet has created out of the legacy of the Sonic fandom, how strange will that be i wonder..?
Hard times happiest days of my life
+Wegra Hard times alriiight
+Wegra the jetszons, right?
hgxnorton yep.
Hard to sing along with, ice cap has a remixed version
hey wegra man
I don't know if anybody else feels like this but whenever I listen to this song it has this weird emotional/nostalgic aura around it, it's hard to describe but this song is great
Fr
I'm just now hearing where this song comes from, it's one of the "omnipresent internet songs" along with Kevin Mcleod's classic's and the Undertale soundtrack
I feel ya, u ain't alone @GDDr0id
You ain't alone ma guy, I feel the same. I never managed to get to the stage but hearing it makes me miss playing the classics...man I miss that shit
It's because the key and melody invoke a sense of tension.
Am I the only one that loves Ice Cap for not only the music, but also the zone itself?
*U are not alone.
Also, I made my own version of ice cap zone in Mario Maker 2.
(I have to edit because for how sucky my grammar is).
@@SpeedyFAST2006 nice
No
Do you also enjoy the PC/Prototype IceCap theme?
I love the underground ice cities gleaming in the back drop.
The song in origins completley changes the tone of the level. This was always my favourite part of Sonic 3 and this song is a big part of it. Ah well, atleast I can mod in the original music.
Yeah in the original it sounds quite mysterious and mystical but in origins it sounds like a jolly ride in the snow
I prefer almost every beta track over the normal ones, but damn, nothing can replace the hard times ice cap
Or you can just emulate the original music
To bad for us console players, we have to suffer and incomplete game forever
@@xtrwombat4876 You can emulate Sonic 3 on damn near any computer/cheap emulation handheld/hacked console with 100% accuracy. Like, you find an old piece of crap computer with Windows XP, a tiny hard drive, and 512MB of RAM in a dumpster and it can run Sonic 3. Shit, buying a Genesis on eBay and a copy of Sonic 3 isn’t even that expensive.
I hate that they give you so many rings at the beginning, because it makes me more likely to turn Super and thus ruin the music.
Don't double jump without a shield then.
omg for real lmao
omg for real lmao
ThisSonicGamer Muscle memory tells me to insta-shield so I turn Super on accident
I try to not turn Super at all during the stage itself because the Invincibility theme gets really repetitive really quick.
I only do it at the boss fights, that's where things get boring for me
What really stinks is that if I try to fly, I go Super, and ruins the music.
This is without a doubt the song that will be most missed in Sonic Origins😔
Dude I legit threw a fit when I loaded up after carnival zone and it wasn’t the original ice cap music.
It's hydrocity zone 1 and 2 for me. Sonic 3
@@Love2HateU dude Hydrocity still plays the same music from the og sonic 3. They only changed the music tracks for Carnival Night, Ice cap and Launch base zones.
Yes
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 carnival was the only good change
RIP to this legendary soundtrack
sega does not won sonic 3's music
@@MeowcatsAndFriends I mean the game is trade marked so..
Also rip sonickai (the uploader of the song)
But not for me😏. I have the original s3&k in Steam waiting to be played again.
It not a real person if it doesn't have any life, that was just a replacement music.
OH GREAT, IT'S THE WINTER SOLDIER.
They almost referenced Ice Cap Zone Act 1 but missed the chance
@@toyotagazooracer4455 that whole scene was an Ice Cap Zone reference.
@@Ekraelum I’m talking about Act 1’s theme. They probably played the first few notes and then blew the reference
@@toyotagazooracer4455 It would've been great, but copyright is a bitch. I choose to think that it's good enough that we got the scene at all to begin with.
“I’ve been training for this moment my entire life!”
A fitting theme when going to conquer Mt. Everest.
The Michael Jackson inspiration in this track is strong.
***** soooo... I'm not the only one who hears smooth criminal here?
Nooope. It's in there. xD
***** yes. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
more like skiing in mountains :P
Fun fact: Did you know Brad Buxer's team also worked on their own compositions for Angel Island, Hydrocity and Marble Garden? That means we almost lived in the timeline where they composed for every zone.
Just wanted to put that out there.
Finding out what the heck these versions of the zones would’ve sounded like is the real mystery now
Bet they all would have been bangers too.
@@cattysplat I wouldn't count on it. The OST we have was handpicked from the two sets of songs that each team made, and it was decided that Sonic Team's versions fit the first three zones better.
We only know about the missing songs because Cirocco Jones' old website Music Powers had a section for "Levels 2 & 3", meaning he worked on Hydrocity and Marble Garden. It's likely those songs will never reach the public though.
thx
@@jomaq9233 or imagine if the game never got split and MJ’s team got hired to do all 14 zones
this song helped me through some hard times
i see what you did there :3
I needing this right now for hard times as the nostalgia reminds me of how peaceful times were back then.
Yep, literally.
As well as the happiest days of my life
@@boru25 It's *_*were_* , NOT where.
My childhood called it wants its nostalgia back
*Do I have to do everything?* *sigh* Ill be right back.
Oh sorry bro i can't come my wheel popped
I brought the nostalgia now give it to your childhood.
+ITSNOUSECUZIMSILVER can you good ask childhood if we could split the nostilga
AJRogers25 Tell it to call later.It's not here
This is probably the greatest song to ever come out of the Sega Genesis
Closely tied with Streets of Rage 2 Go Straight
Streets of Rage 1 too
Hell no
Rest in Peace SonicKai. I didn’t see any of your videos until recently, and I only found out about your passing a few days ago. Today marks 4 years since your passing, so I’d just like to pay my respects…
Nooooo(
Ah the overwhelming feeling of nostalgia, how I welcome it. Every track was a banger. It's amazing how these great tracks were created back in the day when technology wasn't as advanced as today. I had a great childhood, and I'll always have a blast when I play these games again.
Dang you watch JoJo too
Cada año la escucho en mis cumpleaños...y recuerdo lo feliz que era en mi infancia, es cómo volver en el tiempo por unos minutos y sentir que el mundo era mucho mas cálido.
Every year I listen to it on my birthdays ... and I remember how happy I was in my childhood, it's like going back in time for a few minutes and feeling that the world was too warm.
@@SBeef2 I think he got an error on the autocorrect.
Yo tengo El sonic 3 solo se descarga la application en la play store retroland pro
@@SBeef2 Se re copio
como me asia sufrir ice cap con sus cosos de hielo que se rompían zona de remil miarda pero muy recordada
turns out the PC version was the original one and this one was the replacement
This version is like 100 times better
@@fuckooo true
@@fuckooo i agree but the old version is not too bad imo
Source to this?
@@gjtrue there was a sonic 3 prototype released a few months ago
This music is miles better than in Sonic Origins and they could have put more of an effort into the prototype versions of Ice Cap's music. :(
F
....yeee
F real Ice Cap music
I really like your song remixes!
Should of put your music instead
Most requested retro stage for Sonic Mania
yeah, but Michael jackson probably owned the rights to this song, thus why this lvl was not in sonic generations
They would have payed Jackson to make the music for them. He wouldn't own the rights.
***** idk for sure, but look up and videos about Michael jacksons involvement
Jian Costa Again, just because Jackson wrote the music doesn't mean he owns the rights.
***** well the reason im cautious is that sega could not get the rights to the vocals of toot toot sonic warrior you can do anything, or cosmic eternity for the jp soundtrack of sonic cd because the lead singer died, same situation as Michael Jackson
My life began when i knew Sonic 1, 2 & 3.
Ahaha, some of my first memories ever are from me playing Sonic 1 and 2, so my life (at least what I can remember from it) did start around that time xD
Same, i can back saw myself playing on Emerald Hill very long time ago. xD
And knuckles
@@jakemclean7563 & Knuckles
@Dylan eagar emulated or remake? :0
This tune distracts from the actual gameplay.
*you're
Daniel Mejia EVERY tune does.
Yeah. I hate it if I become super sonic and have to hear that annoying SS theme instead off this amazing song.
I purposely keep my shield up to the boss.
To me, this sounds like an ice-cream-truck version of "Hard Times".
The song is just so good. That’s why.
Man I thought no copyright law in the universe could stop sonic
It killed the archie comics so...
:/
Sonic Chronicles:
This stage is one of the whitewater marks for 16 bit, doesn't get much better
Mike G Good choices! Mega Man is great too.
Facts facts facts facts
huh i thought sonic 3 was 32 bit
Daniel Money Well, now you know. This is Genesis/Mega Drive 16-bit game.
@@danielmoney4151 You're thinking of Knuckles' Chaotix for the Sega Genesis 32X/Sega CD 32X.
I prefer this a lot over the ACT 2 version. It's a lot more calm and nostalgic, it gives off a weird vibe, like I'm about to cry when I pay too much attention to it or listen to it for a longer amount of time. It's so sentimental, yet encouraging you to stay determined, so calm, yet expressive.
Five years later and this is still one of the best ost I’ve ever heard for a game
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If you ain't played the game with this track in it, then you ain't experienced true greatness.
So? I never got a chance to get the Sega genesis because of how much it costed
@@BluLobstaDude ok
@@BluLobstaDude I'm sad to hear that. You can always play origins with slightly less greatness of music. Still a great game regardless.
@@MountaineerVapes hear me out- close games music during that level, open the original track in your phone max voice :D
@@justachaoticperson1906
My thoughts exactly.
Although I am happy that they are going to use the music of the prototype, I will not deny that losing Hard times is a hard blow :(. At the very least I wish the remix would recover part of that essence or melody, so that it is not lost completely.
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Honestly this is the only one i liked more than the beta ones
Mj music is great but it wasn't that great on the game in comparision to the original ones
But hard times? That's a *hard* punch in the ass that they are gonna change it
🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣💰💰💰💰💰
Literally “one” of the best songs out of all the sonic games and they removed it from origins :(
Copyright moment
@@skydub7844 I guess the copyright laws of the universe finally caught Sonic
the best song is flight battery zone but ice cap zone is a 2
And that’s why Sega won’t have my money this time.
they are going to make it sound very similar
Today it was announced by an inside source for the Sonic Origin devs that the OST has been compromised with a new soundtrack based on the prototype, meaning that even beloved Ice Cap Zone theme has become obsolete...
"We can't use all of the original sounds [from S3&K]. Jun Senoue has been working really hard to adapt the original music that was composed in 1993 for Origins"
Rip OG Sonic 3 and Knux music
1994-2022
I didn't even know... This is one of those rare moments where I'm not even sad, just disappointed. I know we're not going to get another collection like this for a long time.
Hanging on to my copy of Mega Collection for dear life
@@HellRider_ Facts, I need the right music to experience the game the way it's supposed to be
@Axeldorf I'm pretty sure SEGA just needs to pay up to use the tracks, but they refuse to do so, so SEGA let their fans down AGAIN. How they gonna call this Sonic Origins, and remove the ORIGINAL experience from the game? SEGA knows their upsetting fans, but I guess they don't care enough to make things right for their fans
@@awesomeboss2020 Well, to be fair I don't think SEGA owns ANY of the classic sonic music except for CD and a majority of the sonic 3 soundtrack. They still gotta pay royalties for Sonic 1 and 2, so in reality the royalties were probably higher than it would be to finish their old prototype songs.
Not like those are bad either, Launch Base Prototype slaps.
Losing ice cap is giving long-time fans some hard times
Bro pulled a line from bickuribox12’s review onto here
2020 y sigue siendo una de las mejores canciones
si
Muy cierto
**2021**
@@estrenandonuevacuentaxdkkk4140 *2022*
@@nix5524 ya no mas, llego soundtrack de mgr
17 years later and this song is still amazing
30 years old actually🤓☝️
Never forget this. Never. Even if Origins took this away, never forget this song
This is why you buy sonic games on PC. Mod the good stuff back in. I bought Origins and Colors Ultimate for this exact reason.
that’s the good part about sonic having a passionate community
It sucks bruh sonic 2 got way better songs get real
@@youngjmaryland3729Is slamdunking on something other people like your fetish or what?
Goodbye Hard Times, it's likely that these Ice Cap Zone tracks along with some other S3&K tracks are gonna be replaced with the original music adapted by Jun Senoue in Sonic Origins.
As I can remember guys, YES! Michael Jackson "composed" Ice Cap Zone, but the song was inspired from the song Hard Times, Ice Cap Zone is a remix of Hard Times, so we can say that Michael Jackson was the main arranger of this song :) (AS I REMEMBER)
Woah
WRONG!!
he didn't compose it.
The reason it sounds like Hard Times is because the guy who composed Hard Times also composed this.
***** Giordan Diodato I put "composed" because Michael Jackson fans xD :'v but Jackson was the main arranger, that is so true :) I was trying to explain to Michael Jackson fans that he is not the composer, I'm one of his fans, of course! but I know that Buxer composed this :) but.. for the other Michael fans is another thing :/
Brad Buxer did most of the composition.
That dude has some serious powers to be able to make such a beautiful soundtrack.
MJ and Brad did such an excellent work together (Beautiful Girl, Im The Loser, Stranger In Moscow, Days in Gloucestershire, and many unheard ones), i believe they also did MJ's "Space Dance" from Space Channel 5, or at least Brad using MJ ad-libs... Update: in 2016 Brad stated that they worked on almost 41 high-instrumental-quality tracks (i mean, not SEGA console compressed sound). >> mjhideout.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2275874&postcount=47
never could make it to this level. cause of that barrell in that circus level. #butthurt
+TheLNashProject Ha, the one you have to push up and down to make move? I had to call Sega's tip hotlline and the guy told me they had more calls about that than anything else in the entire time he had worked there.
+TheLNashProject Me too! I felt so dumb when I finally figured out how to do it. Just jump into it and hold down when you land on it, then repeating till you sink low enough, then jump off on the lower level!
Samer Khammash damn it !!!!
me too and my brothers
+TheLNashProject Hahaha omg I know the barrel you mean!! I was the exact same (was always desperately trying to get to the Ice Cap Zone cause it's my fav!) but you have to go up down up down on that damn barrel lol (I was pretty good at computer games but that bit took me aaaages to figure out lol). Great comment made me laugh anyway. Ahhh those were the good ole days! :-D
This music makes me emotional everytime. I always wanna cry to this. So beautiful
Oh yeah? You should hear the original lyrics...
what u mean?
@@UltimatusMemelus Have you heard the lyrics of the song that this is based off of? (Hard Times by The Jetzons) Cuz the lyrics go even more emotional...
No I will check it out
@@UltimatusMemelus Got even more emotional, right?
Ice Cap is the reason I love Ice levels in videogames so much. The music and the stage itself are so wonderfully crafted and I guess as a kid wanting to experience this feeling over and over again made me really appreciate Ice/Snow levels.
At least we finally have confirmation that MJ did really work on this track.
This is actually Hard Times by The Jetzons.
30 years ago, on 2/2/94
Sonic 3 released
May this song rest in peace. Didn't make it into Origins
this music always makes me feel so emotional, i'm so sad it was replaced in origins as well as some other classics :( sonic 3 will always hold a special place in my heart
This was my favorite stage as a kid. That snowboard section always got me hyped af lol
so sad this wasnt in the movie
There was a part where Sonic leaped and scraped the side of the mountain and a crescendo played and my heart jumped thinking it was the start of this song and that we were going to hear a remix of it play next. Definitely a missed opportunity...
@@davidlares2986 TRUE i was waiting to hear some sort of soundtrack reference during that scene but we didnt get it 💔
couldn’t. mj made it and they really cant release it. sadly its not gonna b in origins but the new one is going to sound very similar hopefully 🙏🏾.
I never appreciated the Carnival Night music until we lost it... but this, this was always appreciated. RIP.
RIP Ice Cap Zone. You've officially been retconned out by (a butchered remix of) your prototype predecessor and will be dearly missed. Hopefully someone mods you back into the PC version one day...
That happened on day 1
Or turn on ice cap on Spotify if you're on Ps and xbox
Listen to The Jetzons - Hard Times if you haven't yet.
It really is this song, not just saying that they're similar. Same keyboardist and everything.
The europhoria that awaited after figuring out that damned barrel in the previous level
Oh god, it took me watching a UA-cam video 15 years later to figure out that Casino Nights Zone barrel. Not even joking. Before that, the only way I was able to pass it was by glitching through it as Super Sonic.
The fact that I had to wait years to hear this music because of the barrel of Carnival Night Zone makes it more special
Happy 30th birthday, Sonic 3
the fact that the "Hard times" music got in my recommended section is just wholesome
wHoLeSoMe
What does hard times have to do with this
@@michaelg4981 i was dumb 8 months ago
RIP to the people playing origins not on pc
u can mod on xbox using a file manager
@@Akkurz Ayo for real?
@@BallisticGhast6 yep
@@BallisticGhast6 i mod minecraft with it
Use Spotify
Best song in the entire game, and one of my absolute favorites.
This song is always great to listen to when you're going through some Hard Times
This has always been my favorite Sonic soundtrack from the Genesis days! I couldn't believe when I found out it's also so closest to a real song, probably the closest out of any Sonic 3 song. Of course, several songs in Sonic 1 & 2 were based very closely on actual songs by Dreams Come True.
This game was such a masterpiece.
Raegus Lol hardly. This game has horrible level design. Unlike the classic earlier Sonic games
@@maforo85 no, what the hell are you saying?
@@maforo85 It was actually a masterpiece. You haven't even played it
@@maforo85 you probably haven’t play sonic 3 to be honest
Sonic: "Oh great, It's the Winter Soldier!"
I go through lots of hard times but this song reminds me of the happiest days of my life :)
Ice Cap is my favorite Classic Sonic game level. I wish they put this level in Sonic Generations instead of Sky Sanctuary. Don't get me wrong Sky Sanctuary is a fantastic level. Well that's what mods are for I guess.
:3
Sky sanctuary wasn't memorable at all, at least this stage had a song.
That was because SEGA don't own the rights to the song, something about have multiple composers and shit, one of which may or may not have been MJ, which is why on the PC version of S3&K the music for carnival night, ice cap and launch base were changed.
I think they did that because after Sky Sanctuary in S&K you go to the death egg so it makes more sense maybe?
Sky Sanctuary is my second favorite level in Generations, though I don't care for it in S&K.. I kind of agree with you, but then again, I'd love to play a modern remake of EVERY classic Sonic's levels, not only Ice Cap, so yeah.. The snowboarding would be awesome btw
Sonic the Movie 2 really, REALLY messed up by not featuring this track. You know what I'm talking about!
Tbf this level wasn't in Sonic 2? Wouldn't of made sense to put an Ice Cap theme in this. 🤦♂️
@@TheCheshireCat. Sonic 2 the movie was a mix of Sonic 2 & 3, So it would've made sense.
It should have been a remixed version of this with the yeahs been audible
While I do agree, I'm sure you're aware of the legal struggle this song (as well as others) faces preventing its use.
Or I dunno! Maybe they totally could have used it and just missed tf out! Fairly certain the former is the main reason for its lack of appearance, though.
The thing is, the snowboard scene looked serious so no way they would put a chill song like this into the scene
I used to leave my Genesis on overnight at the end of act 2 just so i could listen to this while i slept.
Until 10 minutes later when Sonic dies because of a Time-Up
@cloudshines812 after you beat robotnik time stops. Allowing you to listen to the music indefinitely.
If Michael was still here, he'd probably give some great interviews about this. RIP MJ, you were the best.
We won't forget it. R.I.P., old Ice Cap zone theme
Over a million views for 16-bit Sonic music? Keep it up Sonic fans!
Fuck sonic, I'm here for the music
its at 3.2 mil now
3.3mil
This is my favorite theme from this game, hands down. I remember making a remix of this with two cassette tapes and pause/cutting them together. Good times. Should do a proper remix sometime.
“There are three things that we cry for in life; things that are lost, things that are found, and things that are magnificent.” - Douglas Coupland
…To call the original Ice Cap music lost would be an understatement… RIP to this amazing soundtrack
Origins. You took one of the BEST if not the best sonic 3 track away from us.
I come back to this song at least once a year to cry at 3 AM. I miss playing my DSI at night and listening to the music. This one was always my favorite but I flew through the levels so fast. So I restarted after beating this zone to listen to it more. I didn’t have a computer to listen to it on YT so I just stayed on this zone..
I’m back
Man, sonic origins removing this is just chilling, it is a hard time knowing they removed this.
Hahah. Chilling. Silly goofy funny
@@ownsundae indeed it is silly, goofy and funny!!! i laughed so hard!!! ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
@@michaelthecoolgamergaming hehe hard times funi goofi reference
goofy poopy scoopy doofy!! ahahhaahhaekls.dfaeskdf@@CybertrooperOfficial
Takes me back to when I was 8, one night i played sonic 3 on a sketchy emulator site and this song has always been stuck with me to this day.
RIP to this legendary song…
Never die 😍
This song has to be one of the best winter/snow themes in a video game ever, along with Snowman from the Mother series and that one ice level from Metriod Prime. I will the play Sonic 4 and Knuckles just to hear this.
Don’t forget Ristar Stage 5-1!
@@cyrusvail And In A Snowbound land from Donkey Kong Country 2.
You mean sonic 3 and knuckles not sonic 4
POV: You're all here because you like this song better than what we got in Sonic Origins.
Even if Jun Senoue hadn't lost his touch long ago, there's no replacing the Ice Cap theme.
Yes still strongly better than that bullsh*t at origins, that's why I made a decision to not purchase Origins
I'm here because I was listening to hard times for the 50th time and wanted a taste of ice cap again
@@nadhirmemmiche7171 petty
No
RIP Ice Cap zone music. You may be gone, but not forgotten.
Hard Times...
This level gave me hard times.
Geeetitiiimaaaddeeajooke
ooR reppiR. Your Face It Matches
lol
Cinko420 Is that an orgasm face of disappointment?
Cynical Toast can i get that knuckles pfp
mmmmmMMMMMmmmm
FUNNNNNYYYYYYYY JOKE
Sadly we won’t have this masterpiece, this work of art in sonic Origins, thank you Sega and copyright
How is this Sega’s fault? They had no choice but to remove it
@@thatsprettyfarfetchd9888 oh c’mon if they truly wanted we could’ve got our beloved musics. They’re just lazy and greedy
Anyway it’s back on PC 🙃🙃
@@Sososaure No, the MJ enterprise has been basically impossible to work with since his death. They simply could not get the rights to the songs, and it seems like they really tried as before this they never re-released Sonic 3&K in any modified sense
@@thatsprettyfarfetchd9888 anyway god created « mods » 👀
@@Sososaure Lol no people like you and me created mods
rip Ice cap zone. I will never forget you
The Music in the Original Sonic games is musically more talented then virtually 98% of anything that's been on the actual pop music top 40 in like 15-20 years.
So true so true.
That's cuz it was made by the impeccable MICHAEL JACKSON!@ HEEEE-HEEEE!
Make that 100%.
Hell yeah
well thats a opinion that i agree with but it;s still a opinion not a fact
I love the older sonic games they were so simple and fun.
Legend still say The Jetzons are playing this game to get through their Hard Times!
Memory unlocked, its been a pleasure
After the nightmare that was the Carnival Zone arriving to the Ice Cap Zone, Sonic landing on a snowboard while this tune playing is one of the most badass moments of my childhood
This and Launch Base act 1 are the songs I will absolutely go to war with the prototype cats over.
All of the prototype songs are mid as hell and completely change the tones of the levels that they appear in.
@3rd Way Lol, honestly I probably am being way too generous in calling them "mid".
@3rd Way They aren't garbage. Carnival night prototype is better than the original. Origins just butchered them.
This is FACTUAL
Ice Cap- Original>Prototype
Carnival Night- Original>Prototype
Launch Base- Original=Prototype
This is fact
I prefer prototype Carnival Night, but final Ice Cap and Launch Base are definitely better,
@@dreamcastdazia4753 Your opinion isn't a fact.
put on headphones and listen to this song its A DIFFRENT SONG TRY IT
I did and I heard the best thing to be heard by human ears.
@@chilliorganism I still listen to this since this game came out in the 90's.Still have the original genesis model 1 and i can agree that this is the most beautiful song specially with headphones
adriano fangueiro ikr
The greatest soundtrack to a level to exist
The nostalgia vibe to this is Just fire
I wish SEGA would just pay to get these tracks, instead of side stepping the issue
We miss you sad 😔
Pra muitos que não tiveram a honra: a fita do sonic the hedgehog 3 era acoplado num adaptador do sonic knuckles após isso vc jogava a campanha dos 2 jogos juntos... simplesmente espetacular... mega drive forever,😍😍
Como eu queria ter vivido isso
Sonic 3 is such a masterpiece.
Today is a very sad day...
I feel so dang shattered worn and torn with the state of this zone in origins.