Take it as a Death Guard player who kitbashed his entire army: the best part of DG/Nurgle is just how permissive the conversions and paintjobs are. Melted by plastic glue or encrusted by superglue? Greenstuff goop sticking out? Who cares, they're in canon covered in filth, slime, ooze, fungus and ten flavors of inexplicable techno organic chaos shit. They literally already look like shit smeared kitbashes in universe.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Put them off even more by covering more Fantasy, TES, or BattleTech. Win-win, and the delayed procrastination will cascade into another Chaos God.
was surprising honestly, thought he finally ran out of 1d4chan (now 1d6chan, bless) to pull from. I guess none of us can be as spiteful as actual dwarfs. What's next, Do or Don't Bretonnia? lmao.
@@pancreasnowork9939For as much as you hate Khorne, I'm excited for when you eventually get around to the World Eaters. Is this because I'm a Khorne fan? Yes. But that's beside the point.
It makes sense that the Death Guard had no agency in their fall, when you consider how Nurgle operates. Out of all the Chaos Gods, Nurgle has the least respect for free will, and that's saying a lot. As far as Nurgle is concerned, you will accept and spread his love, whether you like it or not.
let's be fair, when he does cover a faction he gives them proper props. It's understandable to be a little bit salty that Imperial/Chaos factions get the most lore and models compared to every other faction.
I have a saying: “the Death Guard are the coolest army you’d never want to be a part of.” They have an awesome aesthetic and a unique play style, but you don’t want to have 30,000 illnesses at once, with said illnesses getting worse over time (in Lords of Silence a Plague Marine talks about how the buildup of phlegm and water in his lungs over the decades has made his life much harder than he’d like)
Thousand Sons would also really suck if you weren't lucky enough to be a psyker. The rubric marines might not be aware of what's happening, but they're still at least vaguely conscious, and it turns out not having a proper body is a really bad thing to experience.
@@screamingcactus1753Weren’t lucky enough to be a Psyker in Thousand Sons? Not possible. This is a legion OF Psykers. Every member is one. Of course not every member is equal which is why you have Rubrics that didn’t quite retain all their sentience after being ground into magic sawdust.
@@AppalachianAlexwe will not tolerate Ahriman slander for trying to save his brothers. Unlike Typhus, Ahriman had a legitimate reason for the rubric, it just didn’t turn out how he expected, which is why he’s trying to undo it
One of my favorite things about the Death Guard how they are characterized in a lot of the stories, it's all too easy to make them bumbling, slow idiots but most of the time they're treated as empathetic, patient, intelligent and understanding. They'll still turn you into a mass of gross slime though
Mortarion, in my eyes, is the only story which matches Angron in tragedy. Maybe it’s the fandom warping my view but the aspect of ‘I finally have brothers’ and then not one of those brothers being even vaguely willing to associate with you or try to understand you besides Horus has always just been so heartbreaking.
I've liked how Morty didn't want any of this. Not just the chaos stuff, he didn't wanna be part of the Imperium, or involved with anything outside his planet He just wanted to farm, and got flung into all this BS
@@pole8740 There’s a conversation between Vulcan and Konrad in a crack fanfic that I love that your therapy point reminds me of: “Konrad dear brother, you seem remarkably calm today; did those novelty balloon power-claws truly make you so amused?” “They were amusing. However, I suspect it’s more that Valdor forced enough Prozac to kill an elephant down my throat.”
I still to this day cannot get how one would come to be tempted to worship Nurgle, and neither could GW, other than fucking blackmail lmao: "I was an honourable warrior who in time forget everything I fought for till only the fighting was left", "I was a scholar obsessed with unraveling the secrets of the universe and the warp, and my thirst for knowledge outweighed self preservation and morality", "I lived life to the fullest, loving, eating and listening to music, but I always wanted to feel more and more, till I lived only from high to high", and of course "not-Cartman gave me space AIDS".
"My brothers are all dead and I must continue living to honour their memory, yet the universe continues to punish me" probably makes you seek Nurgle for comfort. Only looking at the surface level is possible for the other Gods too. Wow I can't imagine people just wanting blood all the time, people get tired, people need to eat, people need to maintain their living spaces, how do World Eaters even function? (Shoutouts to the Blood Pact from the Gaunts' Ghosts novels, far more believable functional Khornate faction depiction). Man I'd love to be powerful and don't really mind paying the ultimate price because I'm suuuch an edgelord (turns out Tzeentch knows how to break the ground under you once you hit actual rock bottom, fall eternally dipshit, become a gribbling mess of mutations). Slaanesh. Do I even need to say more. But yeah point is, the problem with 40k is how surface level most depictions are. Read "The Lords of Silence" by Chris Wraight. Its a one-off and an excellent depiction of the Death Guard and also contains DG charas that aren't just Mortarion or Typhus (who aren't all that great either).
One who has been hurting for a long time, has given up hope of ever being happy again, and just wants to stop feeling all together might be tempted by Nurgle. Or someone who is so desperate for belonging that they’ll take any family, even one as abusive as Nurgle’s. Nurgle worship is the ultimate way of giving up, given his themes of despair and decay. Unfortunately, 40K rarely explores these kinds of motives for Nurgle temptation, which Warhammer fantasy did better through characters like Valnir the Reaper.
See the DG actually embrace the reason why you'd always choose nurgle when falling to chaos. For the entire Great Crusade they suffered insurmountable battles that forced them to embrace the most devastating weapons mankind ever developed. They were subjected to pain beyond any other legion because it was their born duty to endure the very worst their enemies could throw at them. Morty embraces this. Telling his suns they are weak if they can't embrace the ways of Barbarous and literally drink poison that'd kill any other Legionary. So the time comes and Horus gives them a chance to rebel. To end the mistreatment of the legion and to expel the Emperor and the Imperium that chastised them for being the monsters Big E made them to be. So Mortarion convinces them that ending the suffering of mankind under the thumb of the Tyrant Emperor would be justice. The Death Guard know only one way of ending Tyranny and thats with extreme force and brutality that scars generations into submission. Then, during the journey to Terra, the Death Guard experiences the greatest pain any creature has ever known. Mind Shattering, gut wrentching pain that melted the resolve of warriors who endured the trenches of Istavann III and the living hell that was Istavann V. These immortal beings begged for a death that would never come. Mortarion presented with the endless suffering of his sons, his only true family in his years of mistakes and missteps. Makes a deal with the God of Plagues to end their suffering. Nurgle, without the ability to cure, can only subside the pain. He turns their pain into ecstacy. Suddenly the Death Guard can see the meaning if life through their induced mutation and the stench of their living death. Life if decay. Devay is life. A cycle mankind can't escape. A role the Death Guard must play in bringing the reality of death
There are lots of reasons one might choose Nurgle blackmail free. 1. No more pain. Nurgle boys are sturdy and mostly pain free. 2. No more worries. Nurgle boys are happy. 3. No more dying of illness. You have a terminal disease? Nurgle makes you not die and not care that you have it. 4. No more not getting revenge. Wanna ruin the shitty hive world that makes your life hell? Help Nurgle spread his gifts while receiving his favor.
I am glad at least one person can acknowledge that the Death Guard are really scary. They have the highest body count probably (which is a win itself for chaos). They still have their primarch and function pretty solidly under his authority. They are not coke snorting grapist. They don't eat glue for substance. And Nurgle Demons are the one faction of hell with the power of friendship and general cohesion. As a bad guy the Death Guard are pretty badass in my opinion.
@@DavidLopez-en6el Would have also nicely fitted into this feeling that everything is slowly decaying in the empire. Once they had they had the emperor, then the Primarchs, now only Astartes remain who are impressive but only pale shadows of their fathers... I dunno, I think it could work, probably needs a little more thought but I can see it.
My fondest memory of dealing with the Deathguard, was back in 7e when my Blood Angels army got out blitzkrieged by a bunch of plague marines in a land raider. The dice royally kept fucking me till they ran me off the board.
Personally, i think taking nurgle down a peg or two was a good call. Plague, as you point out, kills more soldiers than combat IRL and, despite the imperiums amazing ability to keep inquisitors and high lords alive for centuries, i dare such medical advancements are not shared with the billions in a hive city. Anyway, love your video mate! Absolute legend you are. 👏
There was an STC discovered called the Panacea, which could cure pretty much any and all disease, but the Dark Eldar stole it because they thought the Imperium not having it would be funny.
Not gonna lie, I just started and Mortarion becoming loyalist again is probably something I'm looking forward to most with the lore. Though if he does go loyalist he better take the daemon engines with him. The marines can't just leave their pups behind
I'd like to see him abandon chaos but also reject being a loyalist. He was wrong about Horus, but right about the Emperor: that dude is genuinely not someone who should be in charge of anything, let alone an entire species.
Also, you know the theme of positive side of Nurgle? Determinance and resilience. After all those millenia of challenges, he's pure and himself once more and got tech from his previous chefs, this too should help
@@ConfusedGeriatric Khorne would get a Bonsai Tree in his throne room(and NOT just to destroy in later) before Pancreas stops making videos about Elves.
Since they made the Harlequins part of the Craftworld in this edition wouldn't have been for it, but now he still could though will most likely wait for the Craftworld Codex and see if there is a detachment inspired by them.
I chose Death Guard as my first army as I thought they'd be fun to paint and I was right. What I didn't think about was how you can make a small mistake while painting and it just fits in with the rest of the filth. Any time anyone asks what army to start painting with I suggest Death Guard for that reason, you can learn and your mistakes help the model stand out. Hell my Death Guard have have like 10 different colours of flesh as I decided pink wasn't my thing early on and started experimenting with yellows and greens. As for playing DG I find that opponents tend to underestimate them. They don't realise 2 attacks with Lethal Hits really hurts after a couple of rounds and that those 2 Blight Haulers and a Bloat Drone with Plaguespewers tearing around the flank are actually a threat, especially to vehicles. I had one Ultrasmurf opponent decide to attempt being sneaky-funny at the first round and try blazing a Rhino filled with Marines up the edge of the map. My only Blight Hauler (at the time) and Plaguespewer Bloat Drone on that side that destroyed all of them.
The Biologus Putrifier can be a great C’tan counter with his free grenade. I found this out the hard way when my Void Dragon took two grenades to the face.
You also forget that DG are one of the only factions that are having fun. When they aren't bombing and infecting the universe with papa nurgles love, they are gardeners who take pride and passion in turning their realm into a sickly Eden
Well them and the Ork. Especially after the Great Rift the Orks are having the time of their lives and when Ghazgkull finally assembles that epic WAAAGH he's been working on things shall get interesting
As a DG player, I hate when people say Mortarion is a hypocrite. Even if he knew what would happen to him if he agreed to Nurgles offer, he still chose to become the very thing he hated most because his sons were suffering and this was the only way to stop it. He's the only Good Dad in 40K and it's High Time people know about it.
3:56 It's not just the clever wordplay and *unique descriptions* you bring, it's the catchy inflections like this that are part of what make you standout and so engaging to listen to.
Trust me, buddy, it's hard to feel bad for people trying to put me in the dirt in one of the most gruesome ways possible which is chemical, biological and radiological warfare done in such a way it makes all IRL ways of it look tame by comparison. I'd turn a spaceship engine into an improvised flamethrower like the humans in Avatar did when they came back to Pandora before I felt a single iota of pity for these guy's.
Some of the best models I've ever seen painted have been Death Guard. An amazing looking army when painted by someone with skill. One of my buddy's recently started collecting them and he said they aren't doing the greatest for him in games. Great video dude.
I was listening/watching while painting my Thousand Sons and when he commented on "at least you're not painting Thousand Sons" all I could do is drop my head and chuckle at my chosen fate.
Imagine being such a bitch that out of all the Primarchs, Emperor treated you the least worst compared to the other traitors and you still bitch about being “wronged”
29:45 To be fair. Even when they look like shit, they can still look pretty damn phenomenal so they can be pretty great for beginner painters in that regard
I gotta say, the new plague marine models look so sanitized compared to the old ones, way less rot and way more tzeentchian looking, the dow2 models were the ones that really nailed the tone of the faction in my opinion
I would've loved to see them as loyalist in 40k, just to see how badass their named characters would turn out to be. Considering you have people like Garro, absolute tank and beast of a man
In my world, the Death Guard are loyalists and that smurf Garro is a traitor. Why? First thing any soldier learns: Hierarchy of command goes down, hierarchy of loyalty goes up. Easy as that. If you are grunt, you owe less loyalty to your commanding lieutenant than to your fellow grunts. Even less to some general who does not even know your name. And none at all to the politicians sending you to die, especially if it's some moronic aristocrats. Thus, Death Guard Nathaniel Garro owes more loyalty to Mortarion than to the Emperor, betraying Mortarion is worse than betraying the Emperor, ergo Garro is the traitor. This is not some BS I made up. The soldier next to you is your lifeline. Without him, you are dead. Some president chancellor king emperor whatever is useless, without him, you are not even in danger of getting killed.
The sad thing is in 9th Death Guard has the slow and tanky but now they get rid of the tanky and replace it with the debuff you can put on enemies you feel horrible. You’re just slow and sometimes feel like you can’t do anything. But hey, whatever happens, just be happy you’re not Necrons in 9th edition.
The death guard aura and characters are a hard counter to Drukhari lists. Most Drukhari lists have a rush down fighting style, meaning they’re doing the DG’a job of getting close and then getting reduced to t2 across the board. It’s rough.
I desperately what Mortarion to meet the Tau. I imagine it going this way… “Shadowsun looked on as the horrifying abominations advancing towards her. For all the firepower they had, all the hits they took they would not stop moving. As if they were immune to damage. ‘What are these things’ she wondered to herself, ‘These tainted Gue’vesa?’ She would not get to ponder for long. For then a voice rang out… “XENOS!” All attention was turned to where the voice came from. And what they all saw stunned every Tau fighter present. It was a Gue’vesa. On of the tainted ones, but much more than that. It was enormous. At least 20 feet tall, with moth like wings, a torn cloak, massive scythe, clad in the green rustic infected style armor as the rest and, like many Gue’vesa, wore no head protection of any kind. It was reminiscent of the Astarte chapter master that the empire killed in the Damocles Gulf war. But the comparison didn’t do the being justice. It was as more that chapter master was to this being what a normal Astarte, or even basic Gue’vesa, was to a chapter master. In fact, in perhaps a in an ironic twist of both fate and history repeating, had it not been tainted and mutated she would have assumed that such a person could *only be* the Emperor the Imperials go on and on about. Just like with the Chapter Master all those years ago. But then the being spoken once more… “I am Mortarion! Primarch of the Death Guard, Champion of Nurgle, Lord of the 14th legion, and Son of the Emperor.” That last part caught Shadowsun’s attention. *Son* of the emperor? If this is his son, what was *he* like? “Rejoice, for your suffering and misery has come to a blissful end. For I spread upon you the gifts of the unholy grandfather himself.” As he spoke green mist spread out from his being and onto the closest front line combatants. They screamed in agony and pain all the while physically melting and turning to literal mush of meat and bones. Never in all her years had the commander see such a horror. “Do not cry” the gaint continued, “You not dying, it is merely the consequence of rejecting the Plague father’s embrace. Embrace Nurgle, join our family, embrace his love, accept his gifts, and Ypu will know no pain. No more suffering, no more loneliness, no more death. Only euphoria, acceptance, love, peace, and happiness. For Poppa Nurgle loves us all for who we are, and all you need to do is love him back and you too be part of a world of truly pure perfection.” Shadowsun was no fool. This “Mortarion” was a liar. His words may be honeyed and sweet, but his actions showed the truth. He was no herald of a benevolent god, but a reaper of souls. Shadowsun looked at her troops and saw a horrifying sight as some began to mutate into a similar forms as the invaders. They were weak willed and sought the easy way out. Turning their backs on the Greater Good. But to the Tau commander there was only one choice to make. Calmly, she rose her arm, aim her cannon at the Tainted Gue’vesa leader, and fired at him. "Never" she yelled, 'I will never lower myself! I am Shadowsun and I serve only the Greater Good!" The shot hit him square in the upper chest. And didn’t even register as a speed bump. “So you have chosen death” the one called Mortarion replied. “We offered you friendship and you spit in your face. Well then, let me enlighten you as to what happens to those who reject Nurgles gifts.” “I have faced your kind before, Human” Shadowsun said in Gothic. “I know how to face Astartes.” Mortarion just laughed. "You may have met a space marine chapter before Shadowsun” he said gleefully, “but you've never met a Legion." Imagine Mortarion has the voice of John Nobles Scarecrow from Arkham Knight and Shadowsun has the voice of FemShep from Mass Effect.
Just so you know, there is a book where the Death Guard are the main characters. Its called the Lords of Silence and it's pretty good in my opinion. Its got all your faves, Typhus, Morty, and even a helbrute shows up
i have a small death guard army (1k pts) my headcanon-lore for them is that theyre a specialised force, made to harvest geneseed for the legion, each squad has a plague surgeon (for obvious reasons), and their modus operandi si to attack isolated space marine forces, or cause problems in an area to lure them in, before attacking in full force due to the important nature of their mission, theyre lead by one of mortarions deathshroud (they can be more than 47 steps away if theyre on special missions, or acting as his voice elsewhere)
Death Guard have surprisingly become my favourite. I really didn't like the models at first but then I built and painted a kill team as a hobby project and ended up falling in love with them. I now have about 4000 points of them. 😂
At this point I’m embracing the Votann meme as an encouraging push from the rest of the fandom. The tone is always “we see you, and we sympathise”. Which is nice. One day we’ll get a novel. One day.
Death Guard also have one of the better CSM books under their belt: the Lords of Silence. I'm a bit burned out on 40k books, but this one was a banger.
To be fair to the Emperors Children, Fulgrim was an Drug Addict on the verge even before he got the dick sword, after the dick sword it just became complete addiction and delusion about that addiction.
Not to sound weird or anything, but after watching a shit ton of panc's videos, i think the best part of them is his voice. It is soothingly chaotic and the direct opposite of what he looks like.
Heresy that it takes you so long to cover heresy. (Cmon over to chaos Pancreas, we have hedonism, entropy and decay, blood and skulls, and more plot twists than the twighlight zone)
can we get some Raven Guard love next? Corvus is still stalking the traitors in the warp like a .... well nightmare made from the warp really the only imperial faction i like start in their face and refuse to budge until point win. (also Nids FTW)
I personally have a funny in a very loose-canon story me and some friends are writing about a Chaos Warband that ends up outside of their universe into an entirely new reality all together thanks to the Warp 'accidentally' (Tzeentch) overextending into a universe that wasnt quite touched by Chaos yet. ...The medbays on the ship - including the head apothecarian ... are all run by Nurgle troops. Its not quite an Undivided warband but more or less a quartet of warbands that ended up on the same ship together and now have interesting adventures in a realm beyond their familiarity. Big surprise however that nobody on the ship is particularly excited about their medical checkups when they're run by a Nurgle-touched Sister.
Do or don't Chaos Daemons in the future perhaps? They can be played in both games, have Belakor, fun to paint, and are fun if you want more supernatural and fantasy aspects. Plus, Soul Grinders make people cry.
Thanks. You brought Death Guard up from the fetted swamp of Chaos to possibly the best Chaos faction that is not a meme like the Alpha Legion or the Dark Angels. Typhis is still in that swamp. He likes it there.
I've been watching your vids for a few years now and I must finally let you know: Placing red, or any singular color, text on the screen ends with very poor legibility. But a white/black outline immediately remedies that. Cheers.
Personally I feel like the extra Nurgle lore is at least partially cus 1) They're not great at coming up with compelling enough stuff for Tzeentch, 2) Have overdone it a little with Korne, and 3) They just really don't wanna focus on Slaanesh if they can at all help it since for some reason sex, drugs and rock and roll is way worse to present to your audience than brutal gory murder and slaughter.
@@supermagnificence7503 honestly youre on the money, its the low hanging fruit for them to do something with. i really do wish they would do more stuff with tzeentch apparently they are gonna be a main villian in spacemarine 2. but yeah slaanesh will prob never see much light, sex and drugs are too much of a taboo outside of Europe
Am I the only one that byes Typhus as much as Erebus? Also whenever I read Typhus I hear either the Gilbert Godfrey tts voice or Malcolm McDowell’s Death voice from Castlevania. I can’t decide which is better.
I know you hate Khorne, so for the World Eaters episode I recommend Angron: Slave of Nuceria, since it's about how Angron and the legion got the butcher's nails. It's kind of sad and Khorne doesn't show up until the epilogue Edit: spelling
I agree with your opinions on the primarchs however it’s pretty clear by now that they are not going anywhere and more are coming so I kinda wish they would just bring them all back so everyone can be happy, I know as a Corvus/Raven Guard fan I still have a very long wait to get my primarch back
Someone might’ve already mentioned this, but the death guard do have a dedicated book with them as the main characters, lords of silence & and honestly, one of my favorite 40 K books along with the fabius bile trilogy. Imo one of the best chaos characters , Vorx. Spoiler: Dude outplayed/destroyed a loyalist chapter, a word bears war band & The dissenters in his own war band at the same time
If you want to play Death Guard, here are some tips: 1. Use rhinos so your plague marines can actually get somewhere 2. Use nurglings as a cheap unit to deep strike in to do objectives 3. Know where you are going with your infantry from turn one, and commit to the destination. You don't want to backtrack. 4. Have your units sit on the center objectives and have the enemy come to you. DG have abilities and stratagems that make them better on objectives, use them. 5. If your opponent deep strikes unit(s) into your deployment zone and takes your home objective; nine times out of ten, it's just better to accept that you've lost your home objective, instead of backtracking back to your deployment zone. Unless you have fast (10 or better inch) movement near by. 6. When you deep strike in your terminators; don't put them in the back corner of your opponent's deployment zone because if they fail their charge roll, they aren't going anywhere with a four inch movement. And nothing feels worse than watching your opponent's units just casually walk away from your terminators, knowing that they can't catch up. 7. To bring down something big, use either a predator annihilator and/or a wardog brigand (remember, you can have one chaos knight or up to three wardog allies).
@@TheBerchie Yep, their infiltration can be used to buy some time to get your other boys into position is all I see them as now. Niche, but still usable.
@@TheBerchie Nurglings still have a -1 to hit aura in close combat. This stacks with the Death Guard -1WS/BS contagion aura, which means the majority of units will be hitting you on 5+ or 6+. It wrecks against World Eaters, Blood Angels and Orks.
Finally, the chaos legions, oh boy, I will definitely wait patiently the video about my beloved Thousand Sons, good video as always pancreas, your videos always put a smile in my face. Btw all is dust.
I like that not all Death Guard legionnaires blindly followed their primarch and about third of them remained loyal. Also before Heresy they did even dirtier work than Iron Warriors, fought in most hazardous and horrible warzones but never complained (unlike Perturabo and his sons).
I was going to not argue,but state my love of The Hersey and the Primarchs… but you might be onto something. I might be mistaking my love of power scale for interesting characteristics.
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Pls do a flesh eater courts video
For another chaos legion, you should do the word bearers.
That opening statement man, look in any direction these days. you'll see that everywhere.
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Take it as a Death Guard player who kitbashed his entire army: the best part of DG/Nurgle is just how permissive the conversions and paintjobs are. Melted by plastic glue or encrusted by superglue? Greenstuff goop sticking out? Who cares, they're in canon covered in filth, slime, ooze, fungus and ten flavors of inexplicable techno organic chaos shit. They literally already look like shit smeared kitbashes in universe.
Much like orks, you have to try to fuck it up
Death guard is s much fun
This is why I’m glad Nurgle was my first proper Warhammer army. It took so much pressure off of me as a new painter.
@@wingedhussar8552 To be fair you CAN fuck up a Death Guard miniature (I sure did a few times!) but its not as punishing as other armies.
Good to know that!
The start of Panc begrudgingly covering Chaos
I can’t keep putting it off like I have been for 40k because they’re like half the remaining factions.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Put them off even more by covering more Fantasy, TES, or BattleTech. Win-win, and the delayed procrastination will cascade into another Chaos God.
was surprising honestly, thought he finally ran out of 1d4chan (now 1d6chan, bless) to pull from.
I guess none of us can be as spiteful as actual dwarfs. What's next, Do or Don't Bretonnia? lmao.
@@pancreasnowork9939For as much as you hate Khorne, I'm excited for when you eventually get around to the World Eaters. Is this because I'm a Khorne fan? Yes. But that's beside the point.
@@Sercotani what's the current 1d4chan fork address
1d4 is dead, 2d4 is down, and i can't figure out what 1d6's address is
It makes sense that the Death Guard had no agency in their fall, when you consider how Nurgle operates. Out of all the Chaos Gods, Nurgle has the least respect for free will, and that's saying a lot. As far as Nurgle is concerned, you will accept and spread his love, whether you like it or not.
damn panc nobody told me you could use guns to paint minis
Holy Shit it’s the Sword and Shield Catboy!!!
JOCAT LIVES!
@@firedeath21**STOMP** **STOMP**
Just vomit on them and you have the best speedpaint method for DG
Jocat!
I’m surprised that “they’re not Eldar, Nagash, or the Skaven” isn’t a con for every other faction.
Or Karl franz
let's be fair, when he does cover a faction he gives them proper props. It's understandable to be a little bit salty that Imperial/Chaos factions get the most lore and models compared to every other faction.
Hahahaha!
Or Necrons.
this is such a weird circlejerky comment to make considering he's been really fair with all of his do or dont's so far
I have a saying: “the Death Guard are the coolest army you’d never want to be a part of.”
They have an awesome aesthetic and a unique play style, but you don’t want to have 30,000 illnesses at once, with said illnesses getting worse over time (in Lords of Silence a Plague Marine talks about how the buildup of phlegm and water in his lungs over the decades has made his life much harder than he’d like)
Thousand Sons would also really suck if you weren't lucky enough to be a psyker. The rubric marines might not be aware of what's happening, but they're still at least vaguely conscious, and it turns out not having a proper body is a really bad thing to experience.
@@screamingcactus1753Weren’t lucky enough to be a Psyker in Thousand Sons? Not possible. This is a legion OF Psykers. Every member is one. Of course not every member is equal which is why you have Rubrics that didn’t quite retain all their sentience after being ground into magic sawdust.
@@israeldelarosa5461I’m pretty sure they’re not all psykers- just had a lot of them
They’re a tiny minority in the chaos legions, Ahriman was evil
@@AppalachianAlexwe will not tolerate Ahriman slander for trying to save his brothers. Unlike Typhus, Ahriman had a legitimate reason for the rubric, it just didn’t turn out how he expected, which is why he’s trying to undo it
One of my favorite things about the Death Guard how they are characterized in a lot of the stories, it's all too easy to make them bumbling, slow idiots but most of the time they're treated as empathetic, patient, intelligent and understanding.
They'll still turn you into a mass of gross slime though
Ah, nothing better to fall asleep on than some good ol' stories about grandfathers' love. Thanks Pancreas, and may Nurgle bless your soul.
Papa Nurgle has already bless Pancreas with diabetes
Mortarion, in my eyes, is the only story which matches Angron in tragedy. Maybe it’s the fandom warping my view but the aspect of ‘I finally have brothers’ and then not one of those brothers being even vaguely willing to associate with you or try to understand you besides Horus has always just been so heartbreaking.
That must be rough, buddy.
I've liked how Morty didn't want any of this. Not just the chaos stuff, he didn't wanna be part of the Imperium, or involved with anything outside his planet
He just wanted to farm, and got flung into all this BS
him and Konrad should’ve just talked and ditch those losers and go hang out, well after like a decade of group therapy
@@pole8740 There’s a conversation between Vulcan and Konrad in a crack fanfic that I love that your therapy point reminds me of:
“Konrad dear brother, you seem remarkably calm today; did those novelty balloon power-claws truly make you so amused?”
“They were amusing. However, I suspect it’s more that Valdor forced enough Prozac to kill an elephant down my throat.”
I still to this day cannot get how one would come to be tempted to worship Nurgle, and neither could GW, other than fucking blackmail lmao:
"I was an honourable warrior who in time forget everything I fought for till only the fighting was left", "I was a scholar obsessed with unraveling the secrets of the universe and the warp, and my thirst for knowledge outweighed self preservation and morality", "I lived life to the fullest, loving, eating and listening to music, but I always wanted to feel more and more, till I lived only from high to high", and of course "not-Cartman gave me space AIDS".
"My brothers are all dead and I must continue living to honour their memory, yet the universe continues to punish me" probably makes you seek Nurgle for comfort.
Only looking at the surface level is possible for the other Gods too.
Wow I can't imagine people just wanting blood all the time, people get tired, people need to eat, people need to maintain their living spaces, how do World Eaters even function? (Shoutouts to the Blood Pact from the Gaunts' Ghosts novels, far more believable functional Khornate faction depiction).
Man I'd love to be powerful and don't really mind paying the ultimate price because I'm suuuch an edgelord (turns out Tzeentch knows how to break the ground under you once you hit actual rock bottom, fall eternally dipshit, become a gribbling mess of mutations).
Slaanesh. Do I even need to say more.
But yeah point is, the problem with 40k is how surface level most depictions are. Read "The Lords of Silence" by Chris Wraight. Its a one-off and an excellent depiction of the Death Guard and also contains DG charas that aren't just Mortarion or Typhus (who aren't all that great either).
It's mostly because people don't wanna feel pain anymore and want to feel "loved" by their patron
One who has been hurting for a long time, has given up hope of ever being happy again, and just wants to stop feeling all together might be tempted by Nurgle. Or someone who is so desperate for belonging that they’ll take any family, even one as abusive as Nurgle’s. Nurgle worship is the ultimate way of giving up, given his themes of despair and decay.
Unfortunately, 40K rarely explores these kinds of motives for Nurgle temptation, which Warhammer fantasy did better through characters like Valnir the Reaper.
See the DG actually embrace the reason why you'd always choose nurgle when falling to chaos. For the entire Great Crusade they suffered insurmountable battles that forced them to embrace the most devastating weapons mankind ever developed. They were subjected to pain beyond any other legion because it was their born duty to endure the very worst their enemies could throw at them. Morty embraces this. Telling his suns they are weak if they can't embrace the ways of Barbarous and literally drink poison that'd kill any other Legionary. So the time comes and Horus gives them a chance to rebel. To end the mistreatment of the legion and to expel the Emperor and the Imperium that chastised them for being the monsters Big E made them to be.
So Mortarion convinces them that ending the suffering of mankind under the thumb of the Tyrant Emperor would be justice. The Death Guard know only one way of ending Tyranny and thats with extreme force and brutality that scars generations into submission.
Then, during the journey to Terra, the Death Guard experiences the greatest pain any creature has ever known. Mind Shattering, gut wrentching pain that melted the resolve of warriors who endured the trenches of Istavann III and the living hell that was Istavann V. These immortal beings begged for a death that would never come.
Mortarion presented with the endless suffering of his sons, his only true family in his years of mistakes and missteps. Makes a deal with the God of Plagues to end their suffering. Nurgle, without the ability to cure, can only subside the pain. He turns their pain into ecstacy. Suddenly the Death Guard can see the meaning if life through their induced mutation and the stench of their living death. Life if decay. Devay is life. A cycle mankind can't escape. A role the Death Guard must play in bringing the reality of death
There are lots of reasons one might choose Nurgle blackmail free.
1. No more pain. Nurgle boys are sturdy and mostly pain free.
2. No more worries. Nurgle boys are happy.
3. No more dying of illness. You have a terminal disease? Nurgle makes you not die and not care that you have it.
4. No more not getting revenge. Wanna ruin the shitty hive world that makes your life hell? Help Nurgle spread his gifts while receiving his favor.
Luthor harkon doesn't like the smell of video, but he did like to learn about them. But not enough pirates
The PancreasNoWork video of all time.
Yeah!
I am glad at least one person can acknowledge that the Death Guard are really scary. They have the highest body count probably (which is a win itself for chaos). They still have their primarch and function pretty solidly under his authority. They are not coke snorting grapist. They don't eat glue for substance. And Nurgle Demons are the one faction of hell with the power of friendship and general cohesion. As a bad guy the Death Guard are pretty badass in my opinion.
Coke snorting grapist lmao. I know hes purple but bro you just destroyed fulgrim forever
I forgot to make a smegma joke so instead just picture what Mortarion must be cheesing it up with down there.
Make a night lord video, coward.
I hate you for that
Sir, none of those words are in the bible.
@@IudexAlexandyr why that's word for word John 15:25
Absolute ass, never cook again
I liked it when the Primarchs were mythological figures that only Chaos Space Marines lived long enough to have first hand memories of.
This, the heresy should have remained obsucre lore we only get snippets from
@@DavidLopez-en6el Would have also nicely fitted into this feeling that everything is slowly decaying in the empire.
Once they had they had the emperor, then the Primarchs, now only Astartes remain who are impressive but only pale shadows of their fathers...
I dunno, I think it could work, probably needs a little more thought but I can see it.
I somewhat agree but the plot must progress at some point
@@baneblade__ Why?
It's not a story, it's a setting.
@@Sue_Me_Too because a ton of books are being written and a story is happening so it's nice when that story progresses once every 10 years
My fondest memory of dealing with the Deathguard, was back in 7e when my Blood Angels army got out blitzkrieged by a bunch of plague marines in a land raider. The dice royally kept fucking me till they ran me off the board.
Personally, i think taking nurgle down a peg or two was a good call.
Plague, as you point out, kills more soldiers than combat IRL and, despite the imperiums amazing ability to keep inquisitors and high lords alive for centuries, i dare such medical advancements are not shared with the billions in a hive city.
Anyway, love your video mate! Absolute legend you are. 👏
There was an STC discovered called the Panacea, which could cure pretty much any and all disease, but the Dark Eldar stole it because they thought the Imperium not having it would be funny.
Didn't disease stop killing more than combat around the mid-1900s? I remember at least the US in WWII having about a 50/50 ratio on that.
4:40 I know you mean Rad weaponry, but I can only hear rat weaponry, yes-yes
Warpfire thrower: "Roasted man-thing. Yum-yum!"
Eh, same thing
0:01 this seems familiar
Holy shit
Woo! The stinky boys are the first CSM to be Do or Don’t’d! Glad to have my good friend Nexus is getting a spotlight, the anthrax breather.
Not gonna lie, I just started and Mortarion becoming loyalist again is probably something I'm looking forward to most with the lore. Though if he does go loyalist he better take the daemon engines with him. The marines can't just leave their pups behind
no. loyalists are bland boring ad cucks. this would be the worst outcome for the buboes bois.
I'd like to see him abandon chaos but also reject being a loyalist. He was wrong about Horus, but right about the Emperor: that dude is genuinely not someone who should be in charge of anything, let alone an entire species.
Also, you know the theme of positive side of Nurgle? Determinance and resilience. After all those millenia of challenges, he's pure and himself once more
and got tech from his previous chefs, this too should help
@@NukefandangoHe just wanted to farm wheat n shi in the first place
Clicked faster than Guardsman 10273022 sharting his pants when Papa Nurgle rolled through.
I wonder if the Harlequins on their own would be enough for a "Do or Don't"?
I don't remember them being mentioned in the Eldar video.
It’s elves. All he needs is an excuse to make a video on them.
@@ordo_draigo_assault_hamman does love elves but has he made that many videos on them?
@@ConfusedGeriatric Khorne would get a Bonsai Tree in his throne room(and NOT just to destroy in later) before Pancreas stops making videos about Elves.
Since they made the Harlequins part of the Craftworld in this edition wouldn't have been for it, but now he still could though will most likely wait for the Craftworld Codex and see if there is a detachment inspired by them.
I chose Death Guard as my first army as I thought they'd be fun to paint and I was right. What I didn't think about was how you can make a small mistake while painting and it just fits in with the rest of the filth. Any time anyone asks what army to start painting with I suggest Death Guard for that reason, you can learn and your mistakes help the model stand out. Hell my Death Guard have have like 10 different colours of flesh as I decided pink wasn't my thing early on and started experimenting with yellows and greens.
As for playing DG I find that opponents tend to underestimate them. They don't realise 2 attacks with Lethal Hits really hurts after a couple of rounds and that those 2 Blight Haulers and a Bloat Drone with Plaguespewers tearing around the flank are actually a threat, especially to vehicles. I had one Ultrasmurf opponent decide to attempt being sneaky-funny at the first round and try blazing a Rhino filled with Marines up the edge of the map. My only Blight Hauler (at the time) and Plaguespewer Bloat Drone on that side that destroyed all of them.
That Contagion -1 to hit debuff is a killer to all who are in range of it.
Especially Orks.
so stinky they cant hit
wow! i was just watching the Silent King breakdown and refreshed to find The Death Guard staring at me! Awesome!
Yes! All factions deserve a do or don't video, I'll always watch these!
The Biologus Putrifier can be a great C’tan counter with his free grenade. I found this out the hard way when my Void Dragon took two grenades to the face.
Who would win:
a shard of a void god that represents a fundamental law of the universe
One stinky boi with grenades.
Love this power gladius in the art at 12:54
You also forget that DG are one of the only factions that are having fun. When they aren't bombing and infecting the universe with papa nurgles love, they are gardeners who take pride and passion in turning their realm into a sickly Eden
Well them and the Ork. Especially after the Great Rift the Orks are having the time of their lives and when Ghazgkull finally assembles that epic WAAAGH he's been working on things shall get interesting
As a DG player, I hate when people say Mortarion is a hypocrite.
Even if he knew what would happen to him if he agreed to Nurgles offer, he still chose to become the very thing he hated most because his sons were suffering and this was the only way to stop it.
He's the only Good Dad in 40K and it's High Time people know about it.
Preach brother!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
That doesn't change him being a hypocrite. It may give him a morally justified reason to become a hypocrite, though
Finally someone gets it!
@@anna-flora999If he doesn't actually want to, then it's not hypocrisy because he is technically being forced by Nurgle.
3:56 It's not just the clever wordplay and *unique descriptions* you bring, it's the catchy inflections like this that are part of what make you standout and so engaging to listen to.
Trust me, buddy, it's hard to feel bad for people trying to put me in the dirt in one of the most gruesome ways possible which is chemical, biological and radiological warfare done in such a way it makes all IRL ways of it look tame by comparison. I'd turn a spaceship engine into an improvised flamethrower like the humans in Avatar did when they came back to Pandora before I felt a single iota of pity for these guy's.
Hey, there’s a difference between Righteous Human Destiny™️ and “Anti-vaxxers who own war crime guns”
Some of the best models I've ever seen painted have been Death Guard. An amazing looking army when painted by someone with skill. One of my buddy's recently started collecting them and he said they aren't doing the greatest for him in games. Great video dude.
I was listening/watching while painting my Thousand Sons and when he commented on "at least you're not painting Thousand Sons" all I could do is drop my head and chuckle at my chosen fate.
mortarion in goblight: im no ones slave!!!! (cant help but imagining him as the outraged soyjak, what a major loser)
Imagine being such a bitch that out of all the Primarchs, Emperor treated you the least worst compared to the other traitors and you still bitch about being “wronged”
I humbly request the Dusty Bois and their daddy Magny Magic for the next Do or Don't. ALL IS DUST
29:45 To be fair. Even when they look like shit, they can still look pretty damn phenomenal so they can be pretty great for beginner painters in that regard
"Mom. Mom, wake up. Quick, the tiny soldier man with the broken insides posted a new video."
Yeah!
I gotta say, the new plague marine models look so sanitized compared to the old ones, way less rot and way more tzeentchian looking, the dow2 models were the ones that really nailed the tone of the faction in my opinion
I would've loved to see them as loyalist in 40k, just to see how badass their named characters would turn out to be. Considering you have people like Garro, absolute tank and beast of a man
loyalists are bland,boring and for wannabe normies. this would be the worst outcome.
@@Uthandolwomp womp traitor.
@@thenerfkid9228 Keep cucking to the emp.
In my world, the Death Guard are loyalists and that smurf Garro is a traitor. Why? First thing any soldier learns:
Hierarchy of command goes down, hierarchy of loyalty goes up. Easy as that. If you are grunt, you owe less loyalty to your commanding lieutenant than to your fellow grunts. Even less to some general who does not even know your name. And none at all to the politicians sending you to die, especially if it's some moronic aristocrats. Thus, Death Guard Nathaniel Garro owes more loyalty to Mortarion than to the Emperor, betraying Mortarion is worse than betraying the Emperor, ergo Garro is the traitor.
This is not some BS I made up. The soldier next to you is your lifeline. Without him, you are dead. Some president chancellor king emperor whatever is useless, without him, you are not even in danger of getting killed.
@@rumpelstilzz Well said brother!
Man i just got close to a panic attack due to my final exam tomorrow. I cant explain how much i needed this video for my nerves. Thank you so much man
16:30 "HATSUNE MIKU?! IS THAT YOU, HAVE YOU COME TO PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY?!"
The sad thing is in 9th Death Guard has the slow and tanky but now they get rid of the tanky and replace it with the debuff you can put on enemies you feel horrible. You’re just slow and sometimes feel like you can’t do anything. But hey, whatever happens, just be happy you’re not Necrons in 9th edition.
2:23 This room is incredible, I'm enthralled by this ceiling situation
The death guard aura and characters are a hard counter to Drukhari lists. Most Drukhari lists have a rush down fighting style, meaning they’re doing the DG’a job of getting close and then getting reduced to t2 across the board. It’s rough.
Grandfather Nurgle blessed me with pancreasnowork as well
Describing the White Scars Vs the Death Guard as a 'grimdark Tom & Jerry chase' is now my favourite thing ever. :)
We need to get you a Doctor Squach sponsorship for this video
I desperately what Mortarion to meet the Tau.
I imagine it going this way…
“Shadowsun looked on as the horrifying abominations advancing towards her. For all the firepower they had, all the hits they took they would not stop moving. As if they were immune to damage. ‘What are these things’ she wondered to herself, ‘These tainted Gue’vesa?’ She would not get to ponder for long. For then a voice rang out… “XENOS!” All attention was turned to where the voice came from. And what they all saw stunned every Tau fighter present. It was a Gue’vesa. On of the tainted ones, but much more than that. It was enormous. At least 20 feet tall, with moth like wings, a torn cloak, massive scythe, clad in the green rustic infected style armor as the rest and, like many Gue’vesa, wore no head protection of any kind. It was reminiscent of the Astarte chapter master that the empire killed in the Damocles Gulf war. But the comparison didn’t do the being justice. It was as more that chapter master was to this being what a normal Astarte, or even basic Gue’vesa, was to a chapter master. In fact, in perhaps a in an ironic twist of both fate and history repeating, had it not been tainted and mutated she would have assumed that such a person could *only be* the Emperor the Imperials go on and on about. Just like with the Chapter Master all those years ago.
But then the being spoken once more…
“I am Mortarion! Primarch of the Death Guard, Champion of Nurgle, Lord of the 14th legion, and Son of the Emperor.” That last part caught Shadowsun’s attention. *Son* of the emperor? If this is his son, what was *he* like? “Rejoice, for your suffering and misery has come to a blissful end. For I spread upon you the gifts of the unholy grandfather himself.” As he spoke green mist spread out from his being and onto the closest front line combatants. They screamed in agony and pain all the while physically melting and turning to literal mush of meat and bones. Never in all her years had the commander see such a horror. “Do not cry” the gaint continued, “You not dying, it is merely the consequence of rejecting the Plague father’s embrace. Embrace Nurgle, join our family, embrace his love, accept his gifts, and Ypu will know no pain. No more suffering, no more loneliness, no more death. Only euphoria, acceptance, love, peace, and happiness. For Poppa Nurgle loves us all for who we are, and all you need to do is love him back and you too be part of a world of truly pure perfection.”
Shadowsun was no fool. This “Mortarion” was a liar. His words may be honeyed and sweet, but his actions showed the truth. He was no herald of a benevolent god, but a reaper of souls. Shadowsun looked at her troops and saw a horrifying sight as some began to mutate into a similar forms as the invaders. They were weak willed and sought the easy way out. Turning their backs on the Greater Good. But to the Tau commander there was only one choice to make. Calmly, she rose her arm, aim her cannon at the Tainted Gue’vesa leader, and fired at him. "Never" she yelled, 'I will never lower myself! I am Shadowsun and I serve only the Greater Good!" The shot hit him square in the upper chest. And didn’t even register as a speed bump. “So you have chosen death” the one called Mortarion replied. “We offered you friendship and you spit in your face. Well then, let me enlighten you as to what happens to those who reject Nurgles gifts.”
“I have faced your kind before, Human” Shadowsun said in Gothic. “I know how to face Astartes.” Mortarion just laughed. "You may have met a space marine chapter before Shadowsun” he said gleefully, “but you've never met a Legion."
Imagine Mortarion has the voice of John Nobles Scarecrow from Arkham Knight and Shadowsun has the voice of FemShep from Mass Effect.
and then she's saved by a member of the Custodian guard.
Yeah, that's just about cringe enough for the Black Library.
Ayooo I thought I was the only one who had that as morty's headcannon voice, very based and greenpilled
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@@garretthochmuth4522NOT FUCKING CANON
love your background music, age of empires, mythology, rimworld, diablo 2. Some of my favorites of all time
Just so you know, there is a book where the Death Guard are the main characters. Its called the Lords of Silence and it's pretty good in my opinion. Its got all your faves, Typhus, Morty, and even a helbrute shows up
i have a small death guard army (1k pts)
my headcanon-lore for them is that theyre a specialised force, made to harvest geneseed for the legion, each squad has a plague surgeon (for obvious reasons), and their modus operandi si to attack isolated space marine forces, or cause problems in an area to lure them in, before attacking in full force
due to the important nature of their mission, theyre lead by one of mortarions deathshroud (they can be more than 47 steps away if theyre on special missions, or acting as his voice elsewhere)
Typhon : BRO, All the people here are traitors!
Mort : Source?
PancreasNoWork, amazing content keep it up bro
Death Guard have surprisingly become my favourite. I really didn't like the models at first but then I built and painted a kill team as a hobby project and ended up falling in love with them. I now have about 4000 points of them. 😂
At this point I’m embracing the Votann meme as an encouraging push from the rest of the fandom. The tone is always “we see you, and we sympathise”. Which is nice.
One day we’ll get a novel. One day.
UA-cam notifications are on point today
Sir. You have single single handedly gotten me into 40k over the years. Thank you for your service.
Death Guard also have one of the better CSM books under their belt: the Lords of Silence.
I'm a bit burned out on 40k books, but this one was a banger.
To be fair to the Emperors Children, Fulgrim was an Drug Addict on the verge even before he got the dick sword, after the dick sword it just became complete addiction and delusion about that addiction.
Love these kinds of videos. Informative and entertaining! Happy to see you include AoS armies. 😊
2:06 "I was expecting a giant khar"- Drift
Finally, a new video to put on replay for the next week
Not to sound weird or anything, but after watching a shit ton of panc's videos, i think the best part of them is his voice. It is soothingly chaotic and the direct opposite of what he looks like.
And now you'll have me wanting for a do or don't: Emperor's Children
Looking forward to it
Heresy that it takes you so long to cover heresy. (Cmon over to chaos Pancreas, we have hedonism, entropy and decay, blood and skulls, and more plot twists than the twighlight zone)
Death Time.
Me at my execution
My favorite part was when the Death Guard showed up and said, “it’s time to guard the death” and Nurgled all over the place
I had an artist friend paint my deathguard, and she had a lot of fun doing those. She hated painting the primaris because they all felt samey to her
"Do or Do Not... There is no try!" - A very small psyker Gretchin
can we get some Raven Guard love next? Corvus is still stalking the traitors in the warp like a .... well nightmare made from the warp really the only imperial faction i like start in their face and refuse to budge until point win. (also Nids FTW)
Gotta love that darkest dungeon pic reference. A man of culture I see
I personally have a funny in a very loose-canon story me and some friends are writing about a Chaos Warband that ends up outside of their universe into an entirely new reality all together thanks to the Warp 'accidentally' (Tzeentch) overextending into a universe that wasnt quite touched by Chaos yet.
...The medbays on the ship - including the head apothecarian ... are all run by Nurgle troops.
Its not quite an Undivided warband but more or less a quartet of warbands that ended up on the same ship together and now have interesting adventures in a realm beyond their familiarity. Big surprise however that nobody on the ship is particularly excited about their medical checkups when they're run by a Nurgle-touched Sister.
Do or don't Chaos Daemons in the future perhaps? They can be played in both games, have Belakor, fun to paint, and are fun if you want more supernatural and fantasy aspects. Plus, Soul Grinders make people cry.
Haveing recently read Lords of Silence wich was awsome. Ima start a death guard army
Thanks. You brought Death Guard up from the fetted swamp of Chaos to possibly the best Chaos faction that is not a meme like the Alpha Legion or the Dark Angels. Typhis is still in that swamp. He likes it there.
I've been watching your vids for a few years now and I must finally let you know: Placing red, or any singular color, text on the screen ends with very poor legibility. But a white/black outline immediately remedies that.
Cheers.
i dont think you mentioned it but another positive would be gw is giving nurgle a lot of focus rn in lore really making them more of a threat.
Personally I feel like the extra Nurgle lore is at least partially cus 1) They're not great at coming up with compelling enough stuff for Tzeentch, 2) Have overdone it a little with Korne, and 3) They just really don't wanna focus on Slaanesh if they can at all help it since for some reason sex, drugs and rock and roll is way worse to present to your audience than brutal gory murder and slaughter.
@@supermagnificence7503 honestly youre on the money, its the low hanging fruit for them to do something with. i really do wish they would do more stuff with tzeentch apparently they are gonna be a main villian in spacemarine 2. but yeah slaanesh will prob never see much light, sex and drugs are too much of a taboo outside of Europe
I’m sure C.S. Gato is treating the Votan with the same respect and well thought out approach he brought to other stories.
Am I the only one that byes Typhus as much as Erebus?
Also whenever I read Typhus I hear either the Gilbert Godfrey tts voice or Malcolm McDowell’s Death voice from Castlevania. I can’t decide which is better.
4:35 that is the “arm wrestle handshake” style popularized in the movie Predator
I know you hate Khorne, so for the World Eaters episode I recommend Angron: Slave of Nuceria, since it's about how Angron and the legion got the butcher's nails. It's kind of sad and Khorne doesn't show up until the epilogue
Edit: spelling
I agree with your opinions on the primarchs however it’s pretty clear by now that they are not going anywhere and more are coming so I kinda wish they would just bring them all back so everyone can be happy, I know as a Corvus/Raven Guard fan I still have a very long wait to get my primarch back
One other positive: Fart jokes are not just allowed and enjoyed, but expected.
Talking about slow and tough armies, when do or don't dwarfs, i need my dwarf video
Someone might’ve already mentioned this, but the death guard do have a dedicated book with them as the main characters, lords of silence & and honestly, one of my favorite 40 K books along with the fabius bile trilogy. Imo one of the best chaos characters , Vorx. Spoiler:
Dude outplayed/destroyed a loyalist chapter, a word bears war band & The dissenters in his own war band at the same time
Vorx is awesome
I can't wait for Do or Don't reloaded for each new codex of each faction once Pancake man finishes them all!
Perfekt video to fall asleep to. Thank you! ;)
I’m not the biggest fan of the death guard but DAMN I love Mortarion’s model
If you want to play Death Guard, here are some tips:
1. Use rhinos so your plague marines can actually get somewhere
2. Use nurglings as a cheap unit to deep strike in to do objectives
3. Know where you are going with your infantry from turn one, and commit to the destination. You don't want to backtrack.
4. Have your units sit on the center objectives and have the enemy come to you. DG have abilities and stratagems that make them better on objectives, use them.
5. If your opponent deep strikes unit(s) into your deployment zone and takes your home objective; nine times out of ten, it's just better to accept that you've lost your home objective, instead of backtracking back to your deployment zone. Unless you have fast (10 or better inch) movement near by.
6. When you deep strike in your terminators; don't put them in the back corner of your opponent's deployment zone because if they fail their charge roll, they aren't going anywhere with a four inch movement. And nothing feels worse than watching your opponent's units just casually walk away from your terminators, knowing that they can't catch up.
7. To bring down something big, use either a predator annihilator and/or a wardog brigand (remember, you can have one chaos knight or up to three wardog allies).
The new Pariah Nexus rules nuked our cheap objective scoring unit sadly.(Nurglings)
@@tylercarr392 Damn, that sucks. Poor Nurglings went from the best unit in three armies to almost useless outside of zoning during deployment.
@@TheBerchie Yep, their infiltration can be used to buy some time to get your other boys into position is all I see them as now. Niche, but still usable.
@@TheBerchie Nurglings still have a -1 to hit aura in close combat. This stacks with the Death Guard -1WS/BS contagion aura, which means the majority of units will be hitting you on 5+ or 6+.
It wrecks against World Eaters, Blood Angels and Orks.
Quality ad read. Moved me from a 0% desire to buy one to a 4% desire to buy one.
Finally, the chaos legions, oh boy, I will definitely wait patiently the video about my beloved Thousand Sons, good video as always pancreas, your videos always put a smile in my face.
Btw all is dust.
"Have you ever looked at someone and thought something along the lines of 'God, you are pathetic.'"
Yes, I have perused Twitter.
So I wasn't the only one
Great video today, get to watch it while relaxing in chemotherapy treatment for pancreatic cancer. My pancreas no work right either.
This came out while I'm sick. Great timing
I like that not all Death Guard legionnaires blindly followed their primarch and about third of them remained loyal.
Also before Heresy they did even dirtier work than Iron Warriors, fought in most hazardous and horrible warzones but never complained (unlike Perturabo and his sons).
I was going to not argue,but state my love of The Hersey and the Primarchs… but you might be onto something. I might be mistaking my love of power scale for interesting characteristics.
Blight haulers are surprisingly fast and point efficient for how good they are. They really should get used more often.
Fuck yeah! Do or Don't for Death Guard! My favourite Traitor Legion and main 40k army alongside Necrons