Against the Odds: Abzan Thran-Fall (Modern)
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2024
- What are the odds of winning with Fall of the Thran in Modern? Let's find out!
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Games: 8:25
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh eucunh
I did this deck in standard
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Avenger of Zendikar seem like a dead card in the deck. Has soon you hit 6 mana you want to Fall of the Thran and when you hit 7 you did most of your land drops anyway.
I think you should play Lingering souls instead to help vs faster and grindy match up.
“Did they topdeck a path?” -Seth one turn after he surgically extracts all the paths from his opponent’s deck
Had this same thought.
on MODO everything is possible lol - scry to the bottop?
@@N1ghthavvk that doesn't exist
Drake the troll wooosh
@@ahunter7563 ohhhhh
This was awesome Seth. You were playing some good cards, but Fall of the Thran won games, too. Ob Nixilis is pretty Against the Odds on its own so the whole thing was amazing.
This is one of your brewer crown jewels. I love your decks, you crazy mad scientist.
This and the 5 color Zubera are the most fun/high success decks in Against the Odds of all time!
Obzedat Vengeance was the most succesful deck of all times in Against the Odds
zubera's better imo.
+Ahunter, and more fun imo =)
I liked Elemental Breach
Those are some nice lands there 'ponent. Shame if something were to happen to them.
Surgicals Path.
"Did they draw a Path???"
Goldfish Memory.
Came here to write this. Seems like every episode Seth has a good "dude..." sentence
Seth, you can hear the joy in your voice when you’re playing this deck. It’s absolutely infectious and makes you so much fun to watch. Love Against the Odds, Goldfish podcast and your articles too. Thanks for being awesome!!
sonnymkatz it would be aMAYzing-of-you if you could click the like button and subscribe, it’s a great way to support the channel Aand the site for FRee
Aww, thanks :)
When I saw the deck I did not believe. I thought the deck would go 0-5. I will never doubt Seth again, this was the best mtg video ive seen in a long time. Thank you Seth.
This was one of my favorite against the odds decks in a while. Totally a fall of the Thran deck and super sweet.
That was Mono-Red Living End. It's a pet project of a guy in the Living End group I'm in on Facebook. He was actually really excited that he was caught in a video by you.
Dude that deck looks awesome! Is there a list?
@@TheSteakShow www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1309412#online
@@TheSteakShow he's still tweaking it, the first change that I would personally make is splash blue for As Foretold. Redundancy is great for combo.
That deck looks so cool.
This was my favorite against the odds in a very long time. The combination of some of radar good cards like tracker and knight and fall of the thran, what is just a very fun card made this very enjoyable. I would love to see some goldfish replay of this deck, I loved it! :)
Deck Name: Seth was really P.O’ed at tron vecause he played 5 matches and got tron’d in 6 of them so he built PLEASE GAWD DONT LOSE TO TRON.dec
All you need to cripple tron is wait til a tower comes down then pay 2 and surgical extraction now they will never have tron simple as rhat
Ha! It's actually probably not a very good match against Tron. Tron not only goes super fast to win under a Fall of the Thran, but even if you cast it, the two lands they get back from Chapter Two of the Fall of the Thran are nearly all they need.
@@ecoKady na if he drops fall of the thran then follows up with bujoka bog its lights out for tron whether he can sneak that play in under tron though who knows
If we’re being real you’re only chance is fast ramp+ghostquarter+fall of the thran. Also, they could have turn 4 not 3, maybe they play a wurlcoil instead of karn or karn and tick up. Its probably 40-60% in trons favor.
This has to get some upgrades (Flagstones, something cheaper instead of Avenger, sideboard looks clunky to me) and I would love to see this played again on stream. Deck looks wonderful 5/5
This, the Glorious End deck, and the Timestream Navigator Combo deck are in my opinion perfect against the odds decks. So much fun to watch, so creative, and definitely surprising.
that game against eldrazi and taxes was super impressive
Best against the odds deck ever looked like. I was wondering how long I would have to wait to see a 5-0 sweep, and I'm super glad this is the deck that did it because it's the perfect level of janky goodness I love seeing on this channel. Really amazing deck list, if Hiearch wasn't so pricey I would build it myself.
This isn't even the best record he's had with an ATO deck though this deck is pretty sweet
Can you link me to the deck article with the best win rate if you don't mind?
You remember when you were tweeting about looking for a deck to commit to in modern? Found the one
8rack, 8whack and this are all really good budget options right now.
This one runs over 1,000 in paper. wouldn't call that budget but I do agree that it seems like it should be a budget deck. Not even sure besides lands what drives this into a crazy amount.
@@zdude1793 heirarch plus some bits in the board. To be honest, you could probably go up some basics and slowly collect the bits you need. It's not even a bad investment since they're all modern staples.
the deck on the video isnt budget to me ? :D
can it be this deck in different colors too ?
Gg... gg. Awesome deck, awesome matches, awesome commentary, 10/10 quality content. Keep up the good work
Thanks!
That deck killed it... Even I'm surprised...
Not even surprised to see mah boy CrazyBaloth playing a crazy deck like Narset Combo.
Out of every deck I've seen you do, this is absolutely my favorite. Would love to see more gameplay of it!
Hopefully someone is actually testing the deck right now. Also want to see more of this!
It makes sense that this went well. The Maverick shell has always been solid, even though it's fallen out of favor in recent years. Getting to slot in a wombo combo that works with the deck's plan anyway pushes it back to relevance.
Well done, Seth! That was a lot of fun to watch.
one of the sweetests against the odds ever! I vote for replay!!
I'd love to see a deck list of the mono red living end/hollowone/young pizzie deck Seth played against.
Could be a good budget magic.
Modern Advice for Newbs in 2018: Graveyard hate and hope.
PS - Some really heads up plays tonight, Seth! GGWP.
Discard and hope you mean
Eh, discard is only available to one color. Every deck can run a Relic or two :)
Seth getting continual punishment at 38:00 LMAO
Opponent: Casts spoils of the vault
Seth: DIE, DIE! DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!
Never, ever change Seth.
"I don't know how mono-red deals with worship"
back in the day, I used an ice age card called Anarchy
Nothing better than a sweet brew like this doing great! Awesome content.
One of the sweetest deck and video in a while, keep it up!
This is top notch Seth Magic.
Unsubbed.
So I could sub again.
would really like to see this deck again sometime later. really sweet deck.
Man, I'm so impressed by some of these against the odds decks. You might have to change the name of this series to something that assumes less immediate doubt in the deck.
Seth, this deck is nuts! I love it! Looks so fun😀👍
This looks like a deck I would legitimately play at FNM. Kinda reminiscent of Todd Stevens' Value Town deck.
Very much so, but with payoff of being a jerk, my favorite type of payoff :D
@@BeCurieUs you think this is being a jerk? My sweet sweet child... there Is hope for you yet
“As innocent as a Tireless Tracker” -Seth as he talks about a standard and now modern allstar
In a landfall heavy deck on top of that :D
I mean, we have much more powerful landfall creature. Tracker just draws us cards ;)
Are you saying there are something better than DRAWING cards?
That last game showed up tho. It's very rare I get that excited to watch a game.
I may or may not have replaced the lyrics to "Free Falling" with Thran Falling as it played in my head while watching this.
"if we only had something as innocent as a tireless tracker..."
Loved the deck, one of my favorite you made yet.
27:00 holy crud that line. That was amazing
This deck was so sweet! Avenger of Zendikar is great, but it didn't seem to find its place here though. Maybe find a replacement?
Yeah, Avenger didn't actually do anything, we could definitely cut it.
Seth: *surgicals path*
Seth 2 seconds later: “Oh no did he top deck a path?!?!”
After watching how the deck plays and your acknowledgement in the wrap up, it feels like Avenger of Zendikar is just a dead card too often. Looking through the land fall creatures I didn't find anything else exciting to replace it with, but then I thought about Ramunap Excavator just as a utility 3 drop. I'd rather have a pair of those in my opening hand than a pair of Avenger of Zendikar. It might seem like they'd be competing for a congested 3 drop slot, but I'd think of them more as lightning rods for removal with some mid game utility that might just get you the extra clue you needed. I think they may appear more important to your opponents than they are, but if they stay on the battlefield they aren't just a bluff, you'll get value out of them, although less once you've run out of lands to fetch. They may even prove a viable threat from time to time.
Watching Ob Nixilis and Fall of the Thran destroying UW control was one of the best things I've ever seen in Magic.
Games @ 8:23
lsmith12341985 xoxo
Absolutely brutal games against control at the end. Sweet deck.
Not sure if Avenger of Zendikar would be better as something like Reveillark? Avenger seems a little expensive, and being able to recur threats (albeit not everything) does seem pretty good.
I love it that you surgical away all their Paths.. and wonder if they top decked a Path in response to your Ob Nix @ 44:34 -.-
This was the greatest against the odds of all time.
hey, a fun and entertaining abzan deck on against the odds, that's great
its 11 bois we get some spicy brews
39:40 birds of poirodais.
This is a sweeet deck!
So fun! Great work!
Hey Seth, I was playing the mono red living end deck, Id love for you to take a look at what you would do with it. Watching back i actually messed up game 3 when i had a chance to win after the living end. Ill be uploading the game play if you want to see the full deck...its pretty budget. Edit: I went 3-2 only losing to yourself and infect. Beat humans, skred dragons and burn
MTG Tavern deck looks sweet my dude. I would love to see the decklist and Seth playing it as well.
It looked super sweet!
Seth: Hey guys I'm going to play an awesome white green lands deck
*6 games later after losing to tron 18 times
Seth: *searches google: mass land destruction in modern*
Seth: hey guys great against the odds deck here using a white green fall of thran
*Puls off the thran, the opponent puts two of the tron pieces from the grave to the battlefield then draws the last peice
Seth: Hey guys today I'm bringing you this awesome abzan lands deck where the combo is to destroy tron players and everything that they love
The only thing I would change is that I would add some flagstones of trokair to the manabase
Flagstone could be sweet.
Awesome deck! Watching it again it seems as if getting to Avenger of Zendikar was a bit ambitious given that you're attempting to Armageddon at 6. Also, Scooze didn't seem to work well with the combo as it was too difficult to get all the green mana to make it work. Given this do you recommend cutting them if you're going to play the deck competitively? And if so what are your recommendations for replacing them?
Greatest deck ever! I hope to see more somehow :D
the best thing to do with Ob Nixilis the Fallen is in black white tokens, using settle the wreckage on yourself to win on the spot.
So happy for how the last match went! :’D
Battle of the Funny Hats!
Maybe fall of thran and knight of the reliquary are what frogtown was missing
39:40 "B I R T Z U P A B O I T E S"
Great seeing you stick it to uw control
I just want to say that the name of this deck is very clever.
That spicy mono red Hollow End needs your attention Seth...Make it so
Wau. That last game was insane:)
To avoid getting flooded you could put in some man-lands. Or you could put in cat-jesus, path and lizard-crucible. Or just 1 good sword, maybe fire and ice? Anyway awesome deck.
Thanks! I think there's definitely some other possibilities with the deck. Could take more advantage of King of the Reliquary tutoring things up.
Excellent deck, probably lose the avengers. Maybe bring in some more discard or consider adding primal commands to find your combo pieces.
Looks like a great deck, maybe with some changes could be even better.
Have you considered Admonition Angel or Emeria Shepherd changing avenger of Zendicar?
Maybe Bloodgast could work.
Wonder if Avenger is good in this deck? Didn't really need it, maybe Baloth?
"Bojuka Bog" is a fun word to say.
I finally get to see another 5-0 dream. Things were looking bad against that blue-white deck, but for once you actually top-decked the win.
if there was a feasible way to make this deck like 400 bucks, i'd scoop it up instantly. good stuff seth. B)
Splendid Reclamation + Ob Nix is a kill condition in this deck..
SPBKASO is never happier than when he is destroying lands.
Ugh this channel and especially this video makes me happy :)
I think you should ditch the avengers for some combination between birds, courser, or scavenging ooze. Awesome deck
I know that it's not in the spirit of against the odds, but the deck should really play 2x retreat to coral helm over avenger of zendikar
This deck is sweeeeet!
I kinda thought fall of the Thran was garbage but this proves me wrong!
Landfall of the Thran
Avenger of zendikar feels like flex slots. I would love to see worm harvest here. Just saying :P
this was such a deadly combo
Githrog for avenger?
@10:40 play cobra, play ghost quarter, make 2 mana, sac gq targeting self, make 2 mana, tap land for 5 and play a t3 baneslayer!!!!
Sacrificing GQ is the cost of activation, so how can it target itself?
I just mean targeting one of your own lands, either the forest or the swamp.
He meant that you target the Forest or Swamp to grab another basic for 1 Cobra trigger and a fresh land, ya dink.
@@PandaSquared I read as if it is said how I would say it, and if I were referring to one of the other lands, I would use that lands name, not self.
Say what you mean, and you will always mean what you say.
Hey Seth awesome work on the deck love destroying lands. Do you think there is any way of making it work in standard with World Shaper, multani and mending of dominaria? Want to make it work but also don't forget about to be dead on turn 4
Hmm, there might be. Tatyova gives us a landfall creature of sorts and Scavenger Grounds can be a bad Bojuka Bog, the deck is just slow, with all of the important cards being expensive.
@@MTGGoldfish yeah very much agree, maybe selesnya gives it a way to survive early on, and convoke with tokens to break the symmetry
35:00 The opponent should not have scooped it up. As long as he had a bolt or two you could not have beaten him if you were not thinking about being careful about milling out. Which in all honesty you probably weren't thinking about.
Super sweet Deck!
44:35 But you've already exiled them all, Seth... 😅
This might be the coolest deck you've posted on here and it might be powerful as well. But it's not budget that's for sure.
LOL that taxes players name .... 😂😂😂
Why no ramunap excavator or crucible I feel like that effect is a natural fit
God I bet that’s tilting to receive that combo
I think he got the Pull from Eternity because he scryed Pull From Eternity to the top of his deck and then just cast the Spoils to get it immediately.
I love this deck!
Now THIS is a modern deck I would be happy to play. Any advice about making it more budget? I've been thinking about trying out modern with a budget list.
deckbox.org/sets/2117030
Anyway, deck looked really fun. Now I just need three more Noble Hierarchs and 2 Explosive Engineering.....
Thanks, Modern price insanity...
Hear me out real quick... a five-color deck with each color represented by 15 cards, with the fifth color in the sideboard. Can it be done?
Smash no because the way that math works there won’t be any pads in a 60 cad deck.
Wow! So good!
What could your opponent side different between knowing you use Fall of the Thran + Ob Nixilis as opposed to just knowing you're an Abzan midrange deck?
Game 2 they might keep a hand light on lands, not knowing Fall is there to take them. Hiding information, especially your win-cons, makes a big difference in a competitive setting
The information is trivial and the board state is not beyond redemption. The matter is that there are very few (if any) cards that GR eldrazi would be playing in their sideboard that can deal with a Fall of the Thran and few unique answers to bring in for Ob Nixilis. You don't bring in enchantment hate for it. the graveyard hate typically run by GR eldrazi is relic of progenitus or grafdigger's cage, which aren't effective answers to it. Seth admitted he scoops too early and one of the biggest reasons I see that happen is his desire to keep the opponent in the dark, even if the information gained is less valuable than the chance to be up a game.
I'm not 100% sure, but we were close to 0% to win the game, so there's not really any upside to letting them see our spicy cards.