If you imagine going through a difficult situation for 4 years in SCJ, imagine me after 12 years! I Understand your situation perfectly, my starting point was 2020, I imagine this happened across the world, where SCJ exists. Everything that seemed to make sense stopped doing so with the start of the pandemic, "in which SCJ said it was the tribulation". That was the beginning of the end. Even so I stayed until the end of 2023 to get more answers, which didn't happen. It was not spoken to me directly but indirectly; Either I obeyed the new change in doctrine or I left, I decided to leave, 1. because the doctrine no longer makes sense with so much change. 2. because it is perfectly clear that the doctrine was changed, especially in Revelation 7, that the prophecy that was taught for so many years changed, ceasing to follow the biblical doctrine, to following the direction of the mind of a sick man. And 3. I think it's the most important point, the heart! If I stayed so long it was because I truly believed in SCJ, but at a time when there was a change in doctrine, without anyone knowing what was going on and no one offering an explanation. This only proves that SCJ is not the truth and that Man Hee Lee is nothing more than a false prophet and didn't see anything in the Revelation. If the heart is no longer present, nothing else can be done there, and no one works well if the heart is no longer in that direction, and especially if there is no longer that fire, or as many say "burning heart". Everything that Man Hee Lee says in her thousands of testimonies and in writing too, is nothing more than a hoax to deceive. Because he has been telling lies for so many years that these lies have become truth for him. I wish you all the best and may you be happy. I left there in January 2024, so I'm very recent, but I already feel much better than staying in a place where I didn't feel good. Success in your life and be happy, that's what matters now, be happy. Thank you for your testimony
So I have a lot of friends and family in that church, and I just got kicked out because I was really skeptical about how they put faith in one man, human being besides God. What is some tips on convincing people to leave, I feel even the leaders are either brainwashed or they are also maybe in the same boat, or they know it's a cult and just decide to stay in
Those on the fence, please please think about why they would put the question “Has perception of cults” in the FMC(Faith maintenance card ) when evangelizing. It is by design that they redefine “cult vs Orthodoxy “ after entering
I just got recently got messaged on social media from a member inviting me. I immediately said no and that I've already gone to two meetings, Googled New Heaven New Earth church and immediately backed right out. Sadly one of my friends I think got sucked in.
Hola, necesito su ayuda y si información. Yo salí de SCJ pero mi esposo aún está vendado y ciego y quiero entender de dónde vienen sus enseñanzas y toda esta falsedad. Gracias
Dose the church ever ask for money for charity, membership or anything else ?? How are they funding events? did you ever feel coursed into spending money for their benefit in any kind of way? I’m trying too find where the church not the people in it, could possibly stand to benefit.
Shincheonji. This is a Korean word. “Shin” means “New”, “Cheon” means “heaven”, and “Ji” means “earth. That’s why they often call themselves as “New Heaven New Earth.” Also, as the length is the word Shincheonji is long, people often prefer to just SCJ instead of Shincheonji.
Why even bother tthe lord when a government official could just step in and stop all this from happening over and over again. I call South Korea government to be accountable for all this. They should pay for the damage at least.
@@cailou5075maybe some politicians there are also connected to cults. There was a huge scandal back in 2016 when their president had to step down because her political decisions were allegedly influenced by a cult.
Ex members' reports are usually onesided. The other side has usually no chance to respond. The truth is: SCJ-members do not force people to join their congregation nor do they hinder anybody to leave them. They do not want that anyone leaves his or her family and friends. They do not steal money from anybody. They are Christian believers, they love God's word in the Bible, they learn and teach the word intensively. They find this very important. They believe in Jesus Christ and pray for their enemies. They obey the Ten Commandments, they commit no crimes! They have a world-wide Peace Organisation (HWPL) and want to restore peace on earth. They think that Lee really understood the parables and the Revelation, but he is, of course, a human beeing, and they know this. They do not adore him, they adore God. Their congregational life is intensive. You may like that or not. But their religious life is guaranteed by the Declaration of Human Rights. Therefore, please, let us tolerate and respect them as we respect other religions and denominations.
@@TrooperJ16869 yes, there are still churches out there and also many pastors saying they can prophecy the second coming. But what I am telling the world is that - without LMH there is only so little one can do. LMH can perform miracles the others can't
Hi friend, Thanks for your reply. Shincheonji is the fulfillment of Revelation... Yes, that is the core doctrine of Shincheonji. If you believe so, you have to prove all the details of the physical fulfillment according to 5W1H. Your SSN says, “When reading prophecy or verifying its fulfillment, one must inquire precisely according to the questions who, what, when, where, why, and how. Anyone who fails to acknowledge the physical fulfillment when it comes according to prophecy proves that he or she does not believe in God, Jesus, or the Bible.” (The Creation of Heaven and Earth, p.181-182) Who received the letters of your SSN according to the Rev. 2-3? What kind of contents was in the letter? When, where, and how? When was your SSN anointed by Jesus? What year was it exactly? Where was the location? If you don't know about it exactly, you don't "believe in God, Jesus, or the Bible." That's what your SSN says.
If you imagine going through a difficult situation for 4 years in SCJ, imagine me after 12 years! I Understand your situation perfectly, my starting point was 2020, I imagine this happened across the world, where SCJ exists. Everything that seemed to make sense stopped doing so with the start of the pandemic, "in which SCJ said it was the tribulation". That was the beginning of the end. Even so I stayed until the end of 2023 to get more answers, which didn't happen. It was not spoken to me directly but indirectly; Either I obeyed the new change in doctrine or I left, I decided to leave, 1. because the doctrine no longer makes sense with so much change. 2. because it is perfectly clear that the doctrine was changed, especially in Revelation 7, that the prophecy that was taught for so many years changed, ceasing to follow the biblical doctrine, to following the direction of the mind of a sick man.
And 3. I think it's the most important point, the heart! If I stayed so long it was because I truly believed in SCJ, but at a time when there was a change in doctrine, without anyone knowing what was going on and no one offering an explanation. This only proves that SCJ is not the truth and that Man Hee Lee is nothing more than a false prophet and didn't see anything in the Revelation. If the heart is no longer present, nothing else can be done there, and no one works well if the heart is no longer in that direction, and especially if there is no longer that fire, or as many say "burning heart".
Everything that Man Hee Lee says in her thousands of testimonies and in writing too, is nothing more than a hoax to deceive. Because he has been telling lies for so many years that these lies have become truth for him.
I wish you all the best and may you be happy. I left there in January 2024, so I'm very recent, but I already feel much better than staying in a place where I didn't feel good.
Success in your life and be happy, that's what matters now, be happy.
Thank you for your testimony
So I have a lot of friends and family in that church, and I just got kicked out because I was really skeptical about how they put faith in one man, human being besides God. What is some tips on convincing people to leave, I feel even the leaders are either brainwashed or they are also maybe in the same boat, or they know it's a cult and just decide to stay in
Those on the fence, please please think about why they would put the question “Has perception of cults” in the FMC(Faith maintenance card ) when evangelizing. It is by design that they redefine “cult vs Orthodoxy “ after entering
Hello. I would also like to give my testimony on doing their bible study and how I almost joined this cult if thats possible?
Of course, can you send me a message through my email address? windoflifec@gmail.com
@@freeofshincheonji1604 Cool. I have sent you an email.
I need some help I think I’m a part of this group rn, how can I escape and help my other friend to leave too :/
Hi friend, I am. sorry to hear that:( I can help you to leave and help others. Please send me an email. freeofscj@gmail.com
I just got recently got messaged on social media from a member inviting me. I immediately said no and that I've already gone to two meetings, Googled New Heaven New Earth church and immediately backed right out. Sadly one of my friends I think got sucked in.
Let me know if your friend can talk to me. I can talk to him about this organization and the bible study. freeofscj@gmail.com
I got suck in to but not actually been to the church/meeting place
I need help I’m in scj I’ve been studying with them about 10 months I’m so confused if I should leave or not
Hi Gabrielle, I am sorry to hear that:( Yes, I can help you. Can you send me a message via my email? windoflifec@gmail.com
Hola, necesito su ayuda y si información. Yo salí de SCJ pero mi esposo aún está vendado y ciego y quiero entender de dónde vienen sus enseñanzas y toda esta falsedad. Gracias
Thank you
Dose the church ever ask for money for charity, membership or anything else ?? How are they funding events? did you ever feel coursed into spending money for their benefit in any kind of way? I’m trying too find where the church not the people in it, could possibly stand to benefit.
i've gone to two scj events and they were either $5 or $10 entry, I don't remember which one
They’re planning to build a temple and want members to donate money monthly for 3years
is there a document, whith all the collected unlocical arguments? none were mentioned in the video
docs.google.com/document/d/17P062sgDcp3PfmRaE_Znw9iSxkJXq4s2zOVR9kfCJcw/edit#heading=h.tyxpixl05r2v
I got baptized with Zion which is Shincheonji. Is the baptism fake?
Shincheonji doesn't do baptism. Is the "Zion" you entered Shincheonji?
Maybe it was wmscog
Si
What SCJ stand for plss
Shincheonji. This is a Korean word. “Shin” means “New”, “Cheon” means “heaven”, and “Ji” means “earth. That’s why they often call themselves as “New Heaven New Earth.” Also, as the length is the word Shincheonji is long, people often prefer to just SCJ instead of Shincheonji.
Praise the Lord!!
Why even bother tthe lord when a government official could just step in and stop all this from happening over and over again. I call South Korea government to be accountable for all this. They should pay for the damage at least.
@@cailou5075maybe some politicians there are also connected to cults. There was a huge scandal back in 2016 when their president had to step down because her political decisions were allegedly influenced by a cult.
@@cailou5075 I just want you to know God loves you and there is hope outside of SCJ CHurch there are people who can help you
Ex members' reports are usually onesided. The other side has usually no chance to respond. The truth is: SCJ-members do not force people to join their congregation nor do they hinder anybody to leave them. They do not want that anyone leaves his or her family and friends. They do not steal money from anybody. They are Christian believers, they love God's word in the Bible, they learn and teach the word intensively. They find this very important. They believe in Jesus Christ and pray for their enemies. They obey the Ten Commandments, they commit no crimes! They have a world-wide Peace Organisation (HWPL) and want to restore peace on earth. They think that Lee really understood the parables and the Revelation, but he is, of course, a human beeing, and they know this. They do not adore him, they adore God. Their congregational life is intensive. You may like that or not. But their religious life is guaranteed by the Declaration of Human Rights. Therefore, please, let us tolerate and respect them as we respect other religions and denominations.
@@TrooperJ16869 yes, there are still churches out there and also many pastors saying they can prophecy the second coming. But what I am telling the world is that - without LMH there is only so little one can do. LMH can perform miracles the others can't
How did u leave?
Shincheonji is the fulfillment of Revelation,you must repent of what you've done 😢.
Hi friend, Thanks for your reply. Shincheonji is the fulfillment of Revelation... Yes, that is the core doctrine of Shincheonji. If you believe so, you have to prove all the details of the physical fulfillment according to 5W1H. Your SSN says, “When reading prophecy or verifying its fulfillment, one must inquire precisely according to the questions who, what, when, where, why, and how. Anyone who fails to acknowledge the physical fulfillment when it comes according to prophecy proves that he or she does not believe in God, Jesus, or the Bible.” (The Creation of Heaven and Earth, p.181-182) Who received the letters of your SSN according to the Rev. 2-3? What kind of contents was in the letter? When, where, and how? When was your SSN anointed by Jesus? What year was it exactly? Where was the location? If you don't know about it exactly, you don't "believe in God, Jesus, or the Bible." That's what your SSN says.