Nissan E-NV200 electric van review incl running costs v diesel
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2022
- So much pollution is caused by diesel vans so at last it’s great to see more electric vans coming to the market by various manufacturers. However the Nissan ENV200 has been with us for a while so what do I think of it? I’ve had a few over the years which I’ve bought and sold but this is one of the newer post 2018 models with larger battery.
I take a look around the van, the space, the spec, why it’s like to drive, real range and running costs.
I think they’re great, and hope to see more electric vans on the road over the coming years …
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James Cotes of Cleevley EVs used an E-NV200 for doing mobile maintenance and repairs on EVs. He would travel hundreds of miles in a week (sometimes over 1,000 miles). The 150 mile range was more distance than he ever needed to do in one stretch. Because a lot of the EV owners he helped had home charging he was also able to keep his van charged at most destinations without having to seek public units. Of course, if he used public units they would have been Rapid chargers and even more convenient. The point is: are we really still flogging this dead range horse? A 40kw E-NV200 is more than adequate for the kind of work a van of than size would do. I used to drive a similar sized petrol van for work and I would travel less than 20 miles in a 10 hour day. It was lots of small distances not 90 mile treks. That's typical of a large number of jobs carried out by vans of all sizes.
Would you recommend this van if you didn’t have access to home charging compared to a diesel van?
Can you do a vlog on your solar panels? Would love to know how much it costs to install etc 👍🏻
I’ve got the e Vivaro supplied by my employer. Absolutely love it. Only do 60 miles a day so ideal.
Hi Richard, great differing content. Also, could I hopefully assume you will be doing a video on the transition to solar and costing /benefits? On a different note as just received my new M3 and looking to get my rear windows tinted - will book in etc…
Great review mate
Will you be making a video about your new solar panels ? id love to see that .
❤😊 I'm just thinking about having one for a conversion to a campervan for myself ❤
I have one of these for my Aerial business it's great! Although I only get 100 miles in the winter with a 50/50 mix of motorway and normal roads. 0-60 sub 10 seconds with ladders on top 😁 also charge up at home for £2.50 a night for 75%
But you lose the cash you can put in your tank that the taxman doesnt see with an ICE, easy to save hundreds of quid a week that the taxman never sees.
This the 40kw version?
@@davidlewis4399
Not sure what you’re talking about , most accountants will use the mileage of the van to work out its liability
People need a honest review
Like where do you charge when you live on a council estate
Winter driving range
Long term ownership charging batteries then discharging brings down the life of batteries the list goes on
Electric vans are for the big top
If you work locally,this makes sense,but if you do 150 miles a day every day,that’s a lot of downtime charging,apart from that great van,good review.
Richard, this is almost a classic car by now :) Thanks for the review, I considered the Evalia Version back in 2018… How’s your EQV doing, BTW?
We need to see a lot more electric commercial vehicles… finally fleet managers are seeing the light and they are changing not due to environmental reasons (most of them), but due to financial reasons, total cost of ownership of EVs…
Local “posties” have some EV vans (old Merc eVito and Vauxhalls) and they love them… 😊
Bit late to this video, but a couple of points.
1, the electric seats and steering wheel aren't there because it is an especially well equipped van, they are there because it uses less battery power to keep the occupants warm that way than using the heater. And if you are using less battery power to heat the occupants, you will go further on a charge, simples!.
2, The running costs comparison isn't very realistic because an equivalent ICE van of that size is going to be averaging at least 40mpg, not 30.
Thing is whilst I understand that for local trips this van would be and are great, Amazon uses alot of electric vans for example but really the range of such vehicles is still not great.
Another great review Rich, but being a van owner as well, I wonder how the range is affected when the van is fully loaded up etc - after all it is a workhorse & will be carting heavy stuff at back. Maybe you can stick in max load capacity & see how that affects range - that's where ice vans are still popular compared to cost of electric vans.
Anecdotally (from watching other vids) - weight seems not to be too much of a range killer, aerodynamics is the killer - someone has done some youtube vids on this van with a load but i can't remember who it was
Richard, do a comparison with the Maxus e-deliver 3.
People ask about running costs of an EV Van so here are some real figures.
I have had an e-expert since January.
It has done 36,500 miles since January. (Average 3000 per month, lots of motorway driving about 60-65mph)
Efficiency 2.4 - 3.0 depending on temperature, wind, rain.
Usually run in Normal mode (not ECO)
Real world costs of home charging and rapid charging is £6100 for the year which equates to 16.9 pence per mile average for the year. (The rapid charging costs have doubled since the start of the year too!)
£136 on servicing (25,000 miles)
Still on the original tyres!
No other costs.
Diesel equivalent (based on quoted 32.6mpg for same van at £1.80 per litre) = 25 pence per mile. (If you can squeeze the claimed 40mpg out of an equivalent van it’s 20 pence per mile or £1131.50 per annum)
Running cost savings for this year on fuel alone - 8.1 pence per mile or £2956.50 per annum. (3.1 pence per mile at claimed mpg)
Service costs comparison I have no figures.
But your running costs didn't include the price of the vehicle 🤷
@@stepheng8779 Price of the vehicle is not a running cost, depreciation would be.
@@stepheng8779fair question. Also fair to point out his fast charging costs are high because he didn’t charge at home using off peak rates. For most ev drivers, those charging costs are much less. Say 30% of what he quoted.
Wrt purchase costs, ev’s are now something like 40% premium over ice equivalent
When you go down a mountain with load it can change with regenerative braking
Is it the same battery as the leaf? Air cooled I suppose? Pity Nissan stick with the Chademo plug.. they are becoming very rare in some places.
Hi Richard. Very informative as always. Is there any chance you could do a video giving us your take on the slow down in Tesla new car sales ?
Elon has gone a little crazy ?
Well. In the uk inflation at 11%, energy crisis, borrowing now expensive, mortgage rates on the rise. I think that covers it. Let me know if I missed anything. 👍🏻
Byd T3 is same car but with better battery. Will get to UK soon.
Interesting that all electric vans have about the same range. Like you pointed out electric vans are an alternative to diesel in a lot of cases especially now cities like Bristol and Bath are charging for vans / commercials that enter the city but not old high emission diesel cars which is bonkers. Hybrid vans would be a way forward with 50 mile electric range. One thing to note is the van load will also reduce range.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did you manage to make it through the whole video with out saying "Leaf"? After all the E-NV-200 is closely related isn't it?
I'm not in the market for a van, but I enjoy your reviews as always. I've said before, you need to get yourself a TV programme on one of the Sky channels perhaps. How about Mr EV for a title.
Andrew Till is Mr EV
@@judebrown4103 Never heard of him before, shows how little I know. I was just offering a helpful suggestion. It'll have to be Mr Tesla Authority then until Elon gets in touch.
@@paulfisher5501 😂 sorry, I seemed abrupt but I wrote quickly in between... stuff... Yes, do check out Andrews channel, he has some good stuff on there with plenty of humour too especially the ones with his wife...😄
Love the alternative suggestion 🤣👍
Why when people do comparison videos, they rarely add the monthly cost on PCP etc. You have to take into account the diesel would cost. Me £300 a month and the EV is £500 a month. That is part of the running cost so the EV needs to make up that difference before being cheaper surely?
Because you have forgotten about depreciation..... The EV will depreciate slower and in my case because I bought at the right time not depreciate at all.... I have run an eNV for over 6 years that I bought as an exdemo with 25 miles on the clock and its worth today what I paid for it
I guess he was talking about buying the van outright (though didn't mention average cost of similar ICE van), so different circumstances. But I totally agree with your point regarding PCPs
Also the cost of fast charging for them as well very expensive, he does sell EV's so going to be biased in some part.
@@andygardner6016 Same as an ICE pretty well and they were cheaper to buy in the first place.
@@andygardner6016 A decent 2nd hand van hardly depreciates in the same time frame you mention and there's thousands of those to pick from at much cheaper prices.
CHAdeMo or CCS? Hope Nissan sold them with CCS in the UK.
Hi Richard, did you manage to avoid all the chaos over Christmas around the E,V. charging hubs?
Yes I did. Thanks for asking 🙂
Seeing the huge queues made me realise that EV's arent ready for mainstream transport yet and only going to get worse. Good for some folks as they are hugely tax efficient but as a cheap means of transport not good.
Pedantry corner. Naughty boy doing a 0 to 60 test in the national when everybody knows that vans not being a car derived van is limited to 50 on a single carriageway. 😬
I drive quite a few EVs and I have to admit I have a bit of a soft spot for the E-NV200. It is easy to drive with good visibility and the spec of the Tekna is quite impressive. As Richard pointed out these are great for local tradesmen as the volume of space and access is better than on most vans in its class. Only downsides are the hard plastics in the cab (although this applies to many cheap vans) and the disappointing range. You would have thought that the front shape would have given it a more aerodynamic profile. Whilst I can understand that the cost of developing a bespoke replacement model would have been uneconomic I don’t think the new model based on the Renault Kangoo is nearly as an attractive proposition.
Continued…
Interestingly, chatting to my postman before Christmas and remarking on his change of van he said that jumping in and out of his old Vauxhall Corsa van was giving him no end of back pain so he had finally been able to get his manager to give him a higher seating position Peugeot Expert - even though it was a bit big for his delivery requirements. Goes to suggest that a higher driving position is better for those jumping in and out.
We have one of these at work, the headlights are dangerously bad
Its not bad that Nissan E-NV200 electric van
That thing is noisier inside than an old diesel, as we can hear from here as you drive?
Unfortunately with the commercial rates being about 60p/kWh it makes it a hard sell for electric vans at present, I guess that’s why your unit had scaffolding up the side, solar on the way?
The charging away from home heavy cargo and winter weather means they cost more to run than a ICE.
I’m assuming this is running on something very similar to the Leaf running gear?
Identical apart from having a battery cooling system
@@andygardner6016 Thanks. Battery cooling is a good difference.
It looked like your range dropped from 146 miles to just 115 after the 0-60mph run!!!
Ask Ian Sampson what he thinks about ENV200 batteries now, after his van battery is
u/s along with his vehicle after only half the life expectancy of an ice vehicle because of time and cycle degradation. Not fit for purpose.
Yeah good for delivery of flowers local
If you drive bile you'll save even more!
But if you load that van with 3000kilos it won't move at all!
No matter how much they force you to buy new and new cars or vans Diesel will remain the best!
Hello mate
Hey
I know you Brits talk about the infamous "white van man". I guess now it will end up as the "electric van man".
But great application for electrification as most vans do lots of small trips and stops where EVs are so efficient.
Introduce it in Kenya
I'm getting 7p per kWh for any leccy generated that ends up being exported.
So Leccy from solar panels is NOT FREE. Just very very cheap. 🤣
When everyone is electric money is digital this is when the powers that be can take your money for driving with out your say so
Prefer the looks of the #townstarEV
Once you load these things up with heavy stuff especially if a builder or plumber they dont make any sense as the range is no good. If you are self employed you cant afford to spend 40 mins or so charging daily time is money. If you lose 3 hours a week charging all the savings and more are gone in lost revenue especially if you do loads of cash in hand. Filling up the old Diesel van is a self employed persons best tax reduction scheme going you cant offset with an EV.
Too bad it uses chademo for DC fast charging. It's basically obsolete technology.
OK, I'll bring my diesel car or van and let's go for a 600 mile drive around the remote areas of the UK or a non stop Calais to Marseille drive and see how your electric van gets on.
Richard mentioned at the start of the video that it wouldn’t suit if you had long journeys to do, but was very suited to shorter local use.
And therein lies the crux of the problem: No one can take their time travelling anymore. “Must get from A to B in as short a time as possible…”
What a stupid comment 😏
Wow. Such a revelation. Nobody has ever said this before.
This 1 only lasted 6.5 years. Once battery gone = SCRAP
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So much pollution caused by old Electric vans
....lets see if that comment rings true in 5 or 10 years time. Concern is i hear 7 year warrantee etc on batteries so vehicle a write off 10 thousand pound bill plus to replace. And Hybrid a joke like Ford's 1 litre 'EcoBOOM'