Nissan e-NV200 HV Battery Upgrade - Simple Install
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2021
- In today's video Sam takes us through upgrading a 2014 24kWh Nissan e-NV200 van to 40kWh using one of our easy to install HV Battery Translator Kits. Please visit evsenhanced.com/product/nissa... for more info
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Now watching the UK salvage market for a replacement 40kWh pack for my eNV200,
The 40kWh e-NV battery packs aren't particularly easy to find as they were never made in large numbers, but good luck with your hunt and we'll be happy to help when you find one.
Such a distinctive antipodean style. Boots that could kick a hole in a wall and shorts.
Nice work! Would love to upgrade our 2011 LEAF one day. Thanks for making adapters to make this possible!
Thanks and no problem. No rush, but we'll be happy to help when you are ready.
Thank you for your prompt reply and I am waiting for the movie on this topic. Best wishes.
One of these vans was the first vehicle I saw when I was taking my leaf home from the car yard at the charging station on my way home. Great to see these being used.
My leaf is getting a replacement leaf hopefully in the next week or so from this team. Although I’m in Hamilton, they have made the effort to help a local team to do the swap. Can’t wait.
Thanks and no problem. We hope you enjoy your LEAF even more with its upgraded battery.
Brilliant solution!
Look at all of those awesome Leafs in the background.
Yes, between our own fleet of EVs and customer's cars that come and go, there are always plenty of them around here.
Fantastic. Can you add additional cells to the pack for these?
I have a 2015 e~NV200 and mine does not have the liquid cooling system. It’s strictly a passive cooling system like the Leaf but I have had no issues and travel all over Japan in my awesome van! Absolutely love this van and even with a 24kWh pack it gets us everywhere we want to go. 🙂👍
That is really interesting. We have not seen a non-cooled e-NV from Japan before. Are you sure? What sort of spec is your van? How did you figure out that it didn't have the cooling system?
@@EVsEnhanced In Japan if you want to buy the 7 passenger e~NV200 you only get one choice. They actually call this van a wagon so it doesn’t get confused with the work vans. All the work vans come with the active cooling and the 5 passenger wagon does as well, but the 7 passenger wagon~van comes with an extra air~conditioning unit for the back of the van. Since the extra row of seats and the extra air~conditioning add quite a bit of weight to the van Nissan pulled the active cooling out. Like I said before, if I want the 7 passenger van I don’t get any choice of configuration or options. At least it is the top of the line model so it comes with full airbags including side curtain air bags that run to the very back as well as a 1,500 watt inverter that runs off the traction battery.
Unfortunately, shortly after the 40kWh NV’s started to ship, Nissan Japan stopped selling them over here. They were incredibly expensive at $50,000 so the only people buying these things were the city halls around Japan for the most part. Still, it’s a shame because it really is a wonderful van even if it’s made in Spain. 😉
@@JamessNissanLeaf Thanks very much for the detailed explanation. We learn something new every day :) Yes, we were aware that there were very few 40kWh e-NVs sold in Japan and that they have stopped selling them altogether which is a shame for us here in NZ as we source many of our EVs as used imports from Japan. It sounds like the e-NV200 replacement might be a re-badged Renault electric van.
@@EVsEnhanced Interesting, not sure how I feel about Renault though.
@@JamessNissanLeaf I do have a 7-seater E-NV200 Evalia, year 2017, 24 kWh. This clearly has active battery management (as soon as you plug it into DC in the summer, the AC unit kicks in, and the AC fan also).
Yeah go kiwi...my eNV200 van needs this!
👌👌
Hi can you also make video how to make nissan NV 200 (2016) to be hybrid like Toyota primus? how easy\cheap will it cost what part is needed? How easy is to add Nissan ProPILOT Assist to old car? Is part compactible with nissan E-NV200 nisssan to E-nv200 or leaf?
Have you guys thought of doing an aftermarket cooling kit for the leaf 40&62? Forced air cooled maybe?
Hi. Firstly, the 40 and 62 are completely different situations. The 40 is pretty bad on any kind of long-ish trip with multiple fast charges involved whereas the 62kWh takes a lot more effort to cook. There is very little spare space in a 62 pack which is pretty packed full of cells so adding anything else in there isn't feasible. We have put considerable thought into cooling a 40, but decided against it mainly because the original module design really doesn't lend itself to very effective cooling. It makes more sense to put good 40 packs into earlier cars and replace with a well engineered replacement pack with a decent cooling system. We're planning on releasing more videos this year on this topic.
Wondering if it is possible to put the bigger 62kwh pack from the newer Leaf into an env200? I'm contemplating an env200 based camper van and the extra range would really be helpful in more remote parts.
The Leaf packs are quite a different shape as shown in the video so this isn't feasible. However, approx. 60kWh is definitely feasible in these vans as an aftermarket solution.
What cost is this upgrade
Great
How do you change the power delivery module in a e nv 200 van
Mindblowing to see that Nissan didnt Change the battery Pack Shape. That could Open Up the possibilities to produce Aftermarket Battery Packs even when the car is 40 years old. But I wonder how much a 40Ah Pack costs!
They’re a car manufacturer/seller, not a battery seller. Also, Japan makes disincentives for older vehicles (that’s why we get their cheap 2nd hand). Needs some policy changes to keep EV’s on the road for as long as possible and upgrade/recycle/refurbish batteries.
@@chrisgorman1652 from a car manufacturers perspective it wouldnt make sense to keep those older electric cars Up to Date. Car Dealers would experience a massive crisis as at least half of the customers would Stop going for a new car. But for that theory I need to know at what total Cost you could restore your old Leaf. But youre right I gotta look that Up somewhere Else , thanks for the explanation. 👋
How to keep warm in winter .. i can't use heating of vehicle .bcz it give less than 100 miles ..
Lit
How does the inside of the e-nv200 battery look like ? Would like to see how the cooling works. Thanks
Have a look at this:ua-cam.com/video/ZgeQVhmm9mA/v-deo.html
Wonder if they will sell the wheels, they look great 😁
P.s I'm in Chch too and would love to have a 40kwh pack in my Env200. What's the rough costs? My one is at 84%SOH
Yeah they are old rally car wheels and look pretty cool. We're struggling to source more 40kWh e-NV battery packs at the moment unfortunately and that will completely determine the price we need to charge. The battery in this van was a lucky find.
@@EVsEnhanced yeah they look like Method wheels from the US. Would love a pair.
Maybe double 2x24s instead 🤣
Are you contemplating a 40kWh Battery translator for the 2011 leafs? I think that will be the sweet kWh spot for those little cars.
Yes. One of our test cars has that exact translation, but our standards are very high and we haven't quite released it yet. Nissan did some very weird things in the firmware on 2011/2012 cars that need to be carefully undone to give a flawless user experience.
@@EVsEnhanced As always I'm impressed by your work. I would humbly caution not to let the flawless be the enemy of the good. Many Leaf driver's are ok with functional but imperfect :)
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions It's hard to argue with that. However, there is something to be said for being satisfied with the product you sell.
Boggles my mind why they didn't use the same active cooled pack in the leaf.
Yes. Considering this cooling system ware released in these vans in 2014, it is surprising that they didn't do something similar with the Leaf on the 30, 40 or 62kWh battery.
Or why Ford made an all-electric Ranger truck in the late 90's. Then recalled them for no reason, and didn't make any effort to electrify transport for 20 years. Same exact story for GM from the EV1 to the Bolt. Legacy automakers have displayed contempt if not outright hostility toward EVs -even their OWN damn EVs- for decades. Nissan's irrationality was, . . normal in this regard. I love the Leaf because it offers people an electric option for under $4kUSD. I have no sympathy however for Nissan, Ford, GM, and what they have coming. They made their bed for 20 years with decisions like the one mention.
Because the leaf don’t have a cool pack system lol
No 62kw packs
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Agreed. You can love the cars without liking how the manufacturer behaves.
Is there going to be a 16-blade battery pack available for the ENV200 as well?
Hi. Unfortunately, the 16 Blade platform is very specific to the Leaf and wouldn't be compatible with the e-NV200. However, we do have tentative plans for the e-NV200 that we'll re-visit more seriously once 16 Blade Green is in production. We're also currently playing around with re-packaging 40kWh Leaf modules into e-NV packs as we expect to be pulling a lot of 40kWh Leaf packs out of ZE1s to upgrade to 16 Blade Green.
Good day! I guess I already asked you !?
Tell me, is it possible to put a 62 kW battery in the e-HB200?
What is the best way to do this? Move all the elements to the old case? Will there be room for a cooler?
Thank you!
Hi. Using modules from a 62kWh Leaf wouldn't be possible with the standard eNV200 battery enclosure. However, with a custom made battery enclosure, wiring loom, bus bars, battery translator and enough time/effort anything is possible.
@@EVsEnhanced Спасибо!
How much to do the upgrade? I got a 24kwh NV200 that I would really like to upgrade!
QUESTION: Will the mobile app be working after the battery swap ?
Here in New Zealand the mobile app doesn't work on any of our imported Leafs or e-NV200s, but our battery upgrade shouldn't effect this in other areas where the app was working previously.
I have the option to buy a battery from Nissan Leaf 40 kWh and I have an e-nv200 24kWh, the question is if I take out individual batteries from the 40 kWh leaf, can I put them in the e-nv200 24kWh
Hi. Good question. The answer is yes and no. You can use most of the modules from a 40kWh Leaf battery pack, but not all of them. You need a few e-NV200 specific half modules and trying to split 40kWh Leaf modules in half is not recommended. Also, the 40kWh Leaf BMS needs to be reprogrammed and a different current sensor is required. We just happen to be doing an e-NV200 40kWh upgrade this way very soon and we will make a video showing and explaining the whole process.
Where do you get your 40kWh battery from? and how much does it cost? It appears not possible to buy thease from Nissan UK or am I wrong?
Hi. The battery pack came from a lightly damaged 2018+ e-NV200. There were very few of these vans ever made, so finding these packs is quite difficult. We are working on another solution though which we will be doing a video on in the future. Subscribe to our channel if you want a notification on that when we release it.
Fenix power in Raleigh, NC builds REAL active cooled packs with cylindrical cells, installed for $7k and offers a BETTER warranty than nissan. SAD WHEN AN AFTER MARKET COMPANY BUILDS A BETTER PACK THAN NISSAN BUILDS for their OWN car. or? exciting I guess if you own a leaf.
Are you sure Fenix has an aftermarket liquid cooled Leaf battery available for sale now? If so then that is great news and we would love to see more details. However, we don't see any new information on their website or social media to confirm this so suspect that it is something they are either still working on or have given up on.
my 24kw is fine at the moment,but i,ll be looking to upgrade poss for the 60kw? ,,
Nissan hasn't make an e-NV200 with larger than a 40kWh battery and it is very unlikely to at this point as the current e-NV200 is close to the end of production. Anything larger than that will need to be an aftermarket battery.
@@EVsEnhanced end of production?
@@Breaks4Breaks Yes. All e-NV200s for all markets are built in Nissan's Barcelona plant. That plant is supposedly being closed at the end of this year and it has been reported that the e-NV200 will stop production. It has already been removed from being offered in the Japanese market. Nissan has said that the e-NV200 will be replaced with a re-badged Renault van, but we haven't heard if that is using an existing van or a new design.
@@EVsEnhanced would this be the Renault/Nissan deal to rebadge the kangoo car based van? I like the e-nv200 for the size.
@@Breaks4Breaks Yes, we have heard some rumors that it could just be a rebadged Kangoo, but that may or may not be true. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
What happens with the old battery?
Hi. Good question. This is actually being covered in our next video which we are working on currently.
Changing a battery pack is this easy?! multiple times easier than an ice swap. Are their other steps not in the video?
Hi. The only part which was mentioned, but not shown here is the de-gassing and re-gassing of the air conditioning system which is used to cool the battery on most e-NV200s. Other than that - yes it is super easy compared to an ICE swap.
@@EVsEnhanced But then doesn't really compare to an ICE swap - more like replacing the fuel tank. Analogy for ICE swap would be changing the whole motor/inverter/reduction stack.
Do you have a retailer in Canada?
Hi. We do indeed. Check out www.precisionautoservice.com/ev/
@@EVsEnhanced they are 5700 km west of us. Anyone on the east coast of Canada?
Where are you located in Norway ? :-)
Hi. We are in New Zealand. But we sell the kit shown in this video internationally. The link is evsenhanced.com/product/nissan-e-nv200-hv-battery-translator-40-2-me0e/
You could probably sell the translator in the UK, have you seen the video below?
Watch "New Batteries for Old EVs : 150% more range for a Nissan LEAF | FULLY CHARGED" on UA-cam
ua-cam.com/video/C4nS_tSQiVQ/v-deo.html
Yeah, they certainly make the process look a lot more complicated than it needs to be with hacking into the wiring and having to send files away.
Cost and range increase? Come on, don't be coy...
The range after the upgrade is 200-250km depending on the driving conditions. The price is almost entirely based on the cost of the replacement 40kWh battery pack and the e-NV packs are in short supply. Right now we have no more stock stock and a waiting list. So it isn't going to be a common conversion down in our part of the world. We're happy customers that have found or have access to one of these battery packs though. The cost of our translator kits alone are our our website evsenhanced.com
Can i have your email
Sure. enquiries@evsenhanced.com
@@EVsEnhanced please check email
So your AC must be on all the time to cool these ...not very good for the environment is it....these EV burn oil and gas just like a petrol or diesel...the difference is the old oil from a diesel or petrol can be reintegrated back to a oil burning power station and burned to make energy...very good that.....
The AC is used only to cool the battery and is not required often. The AC system is powered from the high voltage battery. How is this anything like burning petrol or diesel?