Can I leave my Oculus Quest 2 charging overnight | How charging affects your VR HMD's battery life
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Does leaving your Oculus Quest 2 charging for long periods of time, such as when using the new Anker Quest 2 docking station, cause any damage to your VR headset? A lot of people are convinced that you can really hurt the battery on devices if you overcharge them by leaving them plugged in overnight and in this video we take a look at what is happening when you leave a device like the Quest charging for long periods of time.
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0:00 - Intro
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You may have implied it, but didn't mention that the new ANKER charger cuts off when the Oculus Quest has fully charged. I don't have one yet, missed the first string... looking forward to Feb 2021.
It's a smart design...
dang i should get one for mine
A buck converter shouldnt be sending charge to a fully loaded battery anyway
that actually is a pretty useful tip maybe I’ll take that one instead
Ahhh, welp, now I know I need one of those, even though I really kinda don't mind plugging my headset up instead, BECAUSE I have a VR Power Bank attached that also needs to be charged, and I don't remove it, and so I charge through its passthrough port to charge it and the Q2 with the USB c to usb c thats included with the Q2.
@@mrflashspam what’s wrong with you
slowly puts my quest back on charge
same, I immediately unplugged my quest when I watched this then plugged it back in at the summary
Lol same, I unplugged mine asap but plugged it back it afterwards
@@kode5030 wanna play
Lol I immediately unplugged it but I thought I was the only person that did that
@@rv829 I just left somewhere but didn't bring my oculus 2 that is still on the charger. I can't go back there for 3 days and I'm depending on someone to take the charger out. And It's not like I got a good 5 months out of it. I GOT IT YESTERDAY.
Next video: Does not charging my quest preserve it for eternity?
lol, but it will die the minute the AR Quest 3 glasses come out Q42021. :-)
the voltage would* get screwed up to where even if you left it charging for days, it wouldn't work.
Lol init
As long as there's still a full charge before you put it away for all eternity it might be good
@@darkknight8244 No, batteries naturally deplete and degrade over time.
TL;DR it might just get warm, but nothing else basically
Even tho oculus says you should still unplug it at full charge
And in case of the quest 1, aloot of people left it charged all the time, even if it isnt close to 0
So basically all thats gonna happen is its gonna get a bit warm and it might lose a few minutes of battery time but that is only gonna happen after a few months
*TL;DW
@@Notabl3 what?
@@dylster2662 too loong; didnt watch
Lol my friend would use it, then plug it in, then use it again. Repeat. Would always have that thing charging
I haven’t left mine off of charge unless on holiday practically, after a year of it either being in use or charging, almost never not in use and not charging, it’s still fine
Thx youtube for recommending this when I literally just charged it overnight
same
Same lol
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I woke up after plugging it in for the night, and found this video :/
The slower charging above 80% isn't just deliberately slowed down, it's actually a law of batteries, which the easiest way to explain is to compare it to inflating a balloon. The more full the balloon gets harder it is to inflate it more.
The current attempting to charge the battery is only as effective as its relative power compared to the battery.
Hi, I work in the tech repair and studying electronics in college and I deal with replacing lithium batteries in devices a lot. The battery used is lithium ion, these batteries like to be charged, best state to store for long term is 50%, but the battery likes to stay between 20% and 80% letting it die completely can be just as bad for the battery as a full charge. And temperature has an effect as well, if you live in freezing temperatures then the battery is only affected by 3% over a long period of time, above that it can move up to 18% charge lost. (This is based off scholarly articles, feel free to look up studies on lithium ion batteries if you want to verify) many lithium ion batteries in mobile devices like phones can handle 500 charge cycles (meaning the full capacity of the battery being charged as a summation of all charges, charging from 95 to 100 twenty times makes one full charge cycle) and most modern devices do not overcharge the battery due to safe guards, but the way they do this is slightly discharge the battery and then recharge it over and over once it reaches 100% on the charger, this takes away small amounts of rated charge cycles. The battery is safe, but this can cause deminished life to the battery over time faster than if unplugged. Hope this helps. If enough people ask I'll provide sources for the studies done on lithium ion batteries and charger cycles.
I appreciate the more detailed info! :)
I thought about looking into some scholarly articles regarding other similar batteries, but decided against it to keep the video simple. Same message still applies. Over time you will lose some charge, but if you use an external battery, it won't matter.
@@VirtualPandaVR Exactly, and it's much cheaper to replace an external battery than having to come into a shop and pay someone to open up your device and put a new battery in
The sweet spot is actually storage at 40% charge, and the temperature is not that important at this charge state, but if you store it at 100% charge at 25 celcius, it can loose 20% capacity in a year. But as said in the video, 100% charge in the quest UI does probably not mean that the battery is 100% charged (4,2V), so our batteries will most likely not loose 20% capacity per year at room temperature.
And saying that a typical phone battery can handle 500 charge cycles is a bit too simplified. This relies heavily on how deep the charge cycles are. eg. If you cycle the battery between 85% and 25% it should endure twice as many charge cycles, than if you cycle it between 100% and 25%. - And if you keep it between 75% and 45%, it could live for 5x as many cycles(!).
Bebopsplat with the 600 page book
I just stick it on charge when I go to bed like I do with my phone, then I take it off charge when I wake up in the morning
Same
On their forum it says leaving it on the charger after fully charged can reduce battery life overtime
@@hightimetrev did you even watch the video
does it damage it or. i am worrying cause I wanna get a vr
Yh it seems like mine never charges too 100 or maybe it’s cause I’m not charging it enough
I own a Rift S why am I watching this?
Id like to think it's cuz im entertaining, but I know that's not it.
@@VirtualPandaVR I mean, you're pretty freaking entertaining.
@squiddy yes he is
Its probably one of those 1 am videos or something
I own both :) and still Rift S is better than quest if you have a good pc.
Quest has a lack of good games sort of Asgarth Wrath or Alyx (by lack I mean standalone games because you can play via wifi but still if you want to play games this way you need a good pc therefore Rift is better)
It really depends on what "kind" of battery they use in Quest 2. Some batteries need to be almost fully discharged by using them long enough before you recharge them in order to have long lifespans. Some batteries don't like to be overcharged, but some wouldn't mind. Oculus should really make some suggestion on their webpage about how to keep the battery life of Quest 2 better.
haven't seen a comment about this yet, but the visuals for the vocal lines, it's so satisfying and cool. thank you.
I starred at those waves from the bottom the whole time of the video
Alright! Nice video, contained all the info to make ur own choice while giving u all the info about it.
Im so glad that this vid has come out, i got the Q2 for Christmas and have been terrified of overcharging, this has really calmed my nerves!
I love this video so much, no click bait, no time wasted, no bullshit, you get an answer for your question right off the bat. Great video.
Neat. I've been eyeballing VrPower for a few weeks now but it's good to hear someone else give an endorsement for them. I usually don't charge my Q2 unless it's near-dead and I just play a different game during the couple of hours it takes to charage so it's never too much of an issue. Didn't know there are charging bases coming, though.
Thanks so much for this vid! I watched another one of your videos last night not knowing it was you, so you've helped me quite a lot with my new quest 2, I've learned a lot and Im very thankful for the information that you provide us 😊
I almost always use link exclusively so it's plugged in constantly. I've seen zero differences in battery life while not using link. Truly your always safe to charge as much as you please.
I’m literally watching this video on the quest
Awesome
Cool
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lol same
The Oculus Quest v1 was released mid 2019 and now with the Oculus Quest 2 we are starting to see Quest games that will only run on the V2. This suggest a ~2.5 to 3 year cycle. Therefore there is little need to worry about the battery as the headset will likely be obsolete before the user sees any noteworthy battery degradation.
I know people who their batteries degrade in a matter of months because they didn't charge the Q2 properly.
honestly better quality video than a lot of big youtubers.
I absolutely love the visualizer.
Thank you! I got a oculus for christmas and ive been watching your videos
1:27 UH OH NOT GOOD FOR ME
lmao
same lol
I live in ohio its mostly cold.
i also live in arizona lol
💯 degree hate club here
can't believe I didn't find you sooner I really like your voice it's kinda soothing ngl
Great waveform graphics in this video- well done!
These vids are so good. Thanks man
Thank you. This was helpful. I just got mine today and it's late, and at low battery at the time of me commenting this. I just wanted to be extra cautious since it's my first day. Merry christmas
I just got the quest 2 today. I played all day using the Oculus link cable. It only charge to 80 to 85% so it is smart charging. So happy so thankful. I came from the rift original version in 2015 and this quest is amazing. It has 2.7 times more pixels than the rift and I no longer see each individual pixels like I did with the rift. For $300 this is amazing. This is always what I wanted from VR. No more pixels in my vision it is so incredible and wonderful I can’t believe it. Also the tracking is Very good! So thankful for this quest number two. 2.7 times better than the rift 2015 version. I love the 4K display it has. 7 million pixels in the display on the quest two versus 2.6 million pixels on the rift 2015 version it is incredible
Thanks man I just got one and I had no idea about this subject
Thanks my man for this video just got my Quest 2 I’m getting a cable so I’m not to worried about battery life when I get it.
what program did you use to have those recording frequencies displayed like that? it looks really cool !
I did this without thinking and now I don’t have to worry thanks! I got mine on Xmas!
Thanks for this, very appreciated👍
You deserve more attention for what you help with
Good freaking video bud just extremely well done.
Thanks for the info, leaving a sub 👍
Good video very helpful thank you
I’ve been wondering this, I knew modern safeguards existed but I had no way of knowing if that was in effect for Quest 2. Definitely seems like they have it handled, though
Great video dude! As always :)
Bruh this was rly helpful, thanks!
Thanks for the great vid dude!
Actually charging will slow down even on older devices. This is simply to avoid potentially overcharging a lithium battery, which would be very dangerous. However what a lot of devices do now is they actually use machine learning to predict the behavior of the user and automatically pausing charging at about 80% if it expects to be left on the charger for a prolonged period of time. (eg like when you’re sleeping)
I just got an Oculus and was wanting to be safe so thanks for the help!
Thank you this was Helpful
hey bro, thanks for the video and now i know!
I use a wemo plug in outlet for charging any battery. It allows you to set a timer on the outlet. You plug a device into it for charging and press the button on the outlet to turn on and start the timer. The wemo app allows you to adjust the interval.
Great video - thanks for sharing. I think this is a valid concern since its similar to asking is it safe to keep cell phones charged in all night. Glad someone did the research. :)
Nice video, and especially thank you about confirming the overcharging myth because I always get super anxious about doing that. However, Idk if I missed it, but I had a question about leaving the Oculus turned on or off? Lately, I've noticed that my quest 2 drains battery completely even when its turned off, so in that case, should I leave it plugged in even when its off? I'm curious to know if you leave ur Oculus turned on all the time or how often u turn it off.
Video: overcharging is not dangerous.
Me: *remembers neighbors house who caught on fire after overcharging*
Also me: whatever it’s fine
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The issue with leaving it plugged in isn’t the worry of over charging, as there’s quite a few safeguards in place to prevent overcharging, but rather the issue of trickle charging. Which is the act of charging to 100%, then having it drop a % causing charging to kick back in, causing to cycle the battery causing wear.
I dont think people know what cycling is. I know I dont and its used all the time. It has little meaning because no one explains it.
@@johndor7793 Basically, batteries have a certain amount of cycles [full to empty] that they typically can withstand prior to no longer holding enough charge to power the device you're attempting to power. Each time you fully charge a battery, you degrade the total capacity the battery can hold by just a little bit. Fully charging a battery from 99% doesn't degrade the battery anywhere near as much as a full cycle from 0% to 100%, but it does still degrade the battery a little bit. Thus the more you trickle charge, the more the battery is harmed. It is worth noting that companies such as apple have implemented anti-trickle charging features that will only finish charging the device right before it expects you to unplug the device based on previous history. Hopefully that helps a little bit.
@@Rennaii I understand it through context clues what's implied at least anyways. No one charges from completely empty to full. I'm pretty sure the term is used too much and there's no differentiation between just saying charging the battery.
@@johndor7793 Cycling is the act of charging and draining. Not just charging. Sorry if I didn't explain it well above.
I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure it just cuts the current and it can't overcharge or trickle at all. Could be wrong.
1:29 being in Arizona yeah the battery is a pain in the ass but most come with warranty but it’s a change ever 2-5 years
Thank you for making this video
Hey panda can u do a video on how to attach the rebuff reality battery pack to the oculus quest elite battery strap?and that was a great video by the way keep it up man.
Ok I don’t own the quest 2 but I have a quest 1. I have figured out after a year of owning it that keeping it on the charger does in fact increase battery life. It’s really useful.
I leave it plugged in. Mainly because I don’t always use the headset everyday, but when I do (and haven’t plugged it in recently), it is almost always dead upon pickup. Got the Q1 early into its release, it’s battery is still longer than Q2’s.
I like to charge it once overnight then I would just unplug it then when it’s low I charge overnight again
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why is this mesmerizing to watch because of the audio bars while he is talking.
I use my Quest 2 to play active game like Beat Saber, so after I am done, I plug it in to charge, go take a shower and when I come out the Yellow light has turned Green, so I unplug the charging cable. This is a good pattern of use that ensures you are not leaving battery in depleted state, nor charging it when it is already at max unnecessarily.
I do similar with my smart phone, where I only charge it in the morning at my computer desk while working for couple of hours. Then it lasts rest of day and through the night until next day no problem. I easily go over 3 years without any battery issues making me swap phones doing things this way. The only reason I upgrade phone is when I want the significantly better camera or some other improvement that makes the upgrade worthwhile.
This video is epic... also i am stuck at watching that strange graph haha
Underrated channel
The only thing I'll add is I'm curious how Quests will be in another year's time as We still haven't reached the 2 year mark for the Quest 1 yet (May 2019 was earliest models IIRC) so prolonged sustained trickle charging of the Quests battery hasn't had time to be tested fully yet (if you take most mobile phones their batteries tend to spec'd to work for at least the 2yrs contract cycles they are usually on, or a specific amount of cycles of you want to be particular, so being charged this way i.e. Leaving on charge will no doubt be the same as if we left a mobile phone like this due to the battery components being very very similar if not identical.
Manufacturers state to remove your device from charging once full as there will always be a benefit to removing your device from charging and not leaving in a trickle state.
I have personally seen a marked difference in battery longevity when only charging my battery to the 80% and charging again at the 15% mark (with a one a month full reconditioning drain and recharge cycle of 0%-100%) this is due to dendrites that can form in lithium-ion batteries over multiple frequent charging cycles under certain conditions.
As you say I don't think there is any Safety issues but there will definitely be longevity issues around how long said Quests battery will last per play cycle. One old pixel 2's battery barely lasts a day now (always left on over night while sleeping and left on charge all the time) whereas the other one we have was only ever charged to the above specs (80% max and 15% min except for the once per month cycle) and this phone still has over 93% of it's original capacity IIRC the last I checked.
This is not definitive but is what I have experienced with Lithium-Ion batteries that are from mobile devices (I use some apps and smart plugs with my Android devices to ensure the above charging is adhered to).
Thanks for sharing those fire batteries, im now scared to put my phone in my pocket 😎👍
Unless you regularly get stabbed you should be fine
Yeah I got a quest 2 for Christmas and if it’s low on battery I leave it on over night and immediately unplug it when I wake up. Noticing nothing wrong with the battery and no time loss since the first ever charge
There is a common misconception that power is pushed to a device, instead for a modern device it should be the device pulling power from the power brick or whatever, this means as long as the device knows when to charge or not, it is completely safe to keep it plugged in overnight, or ever for weeks.
Thanks for the vid thanks for the help
Any modern device with a lithium polymer battery which is basically all of them has charging circuitry in the charger that stops IT from charging when the battery is full. this has to happen because overcharging a lithium battery can cause catastrophic failure. this means that you can leave a modern device on the charger indefinitely with no ill effect.
Thank you man I just got one
your voice just made an entire mountain range
Thx this help me I didn’t know if it will kill it 😅
Thanks for the video
To sum up this video, don’t keep it plugged in for several days BUT it is completely fine to keep it plugged in over a night or two, just practice good charging habits and unplug it when it’s fully charged
Thanks this guy could’ve said it just like this but made this long ass video.
Thanks
Such a good video 👏 👏 👏
Vr power battery is definitely a must have accessory for the quest 2 !
I have been leaving it plugged in overnight thank you for letting me know
If you use the oem Quest power supply, it stops actively charging when it reaches 100% Can't speak for other chargers. I'm sure the new anker charger, being "certified" on Occulus's website, also has this optimized charging available
The summer breeze in Arizona is very accurate
Im new to vr I've been looking for a battery pack I bought the one in the link thanks yo.
I like how he uses sound waves in the backround
I usually keep a portable charger in my pocket and plug it in when I play. I don’t like cables that much but I don’t mind the one in my pocket because it’s still feel like it’s standalone
@@pyscholife-7544 been doing it for about a year and nothings happened so I think I’m fine
In two days from when I post this, I'm getting a occulus quest 2 so this info is very helpful, thanks.
Did ya get it?
@@shalinrajguru3146 not yet, just my luck, I get the money and the stores out of them.
I have to wait till Wednesday for it in the mail...
@@EyeOfJaegar oh mannn sorry about that dude
@@EyeOfJaegarI just looked and their in stock
@@shalinrajguru3146 well too late now. But thank you.
Watching this like I own one...
this helps me out alot
I just realized that wierd mountain stuff is showing your voice like a audio visualizer
Thanks man 😅
Thank you this really helped I had 1 friend yelling at me to never do this and the other saying it is fine
This is the same age old question for all rechargeable devices. The short answer is no, it will not deal any immediate damage to your device. You could leave it on for over a year and you would hardly notice any difference. Ideally you can maintain a charge level between ~25% and ~85%. That range of charge is pretty efficient for long charge life cycles.
But realistically speaking, it is negligible degradation over a year of regular use. Also no lithium based batteries last forever. They will crap out after a few hundred charge cycles.
4:45 Guess he forgot to put "sponsored" for this ad.
Truth is, I thought it was funny how he was explaining his battery with what sounded like a word for word reading off the vendors website.
Then he said he left a link in description which made me even more convinced.
Definitely not sponsored. But the link is an affiliate link :P
I’d say practice good habits when you can. Don’t worry about it, but if you see a green light on your quest, just go ahead and unplug it. Leave it on overnight if you want, but unplug it if it’s already at a good charge before you go to bed. If that means it’s at 80% or so in he morning, just plug it in when you wake up and eat breakfast.
I've been skeptical because I just got it today this commet is pretty useful thank you
What about charging while playing? I read somewhere that could cause damages. Sorry if I missed it being mentioned In the video.
As someone that didn’t buy the VR power battery bank right away I would absolutely recommend anyone that’s looking in to getting the quest 2 to get it right at the beginning. You’ll be very annoyed when your headset dies mid play session of half life alix or bone works.
I use an anker cable for quest 3 link and when I'm done playing I leave it plugged in because I'll never have to charge it. So whenever I want to play I can play.
VR gamers unite. ^^ Prolonging is definitely the aim here!
I am a little Confused. How do you replace the battery or do you need to replace the battery that originally comes with a Quest 2? If the battery they came with the quest headset is bad can you just buy a battery pack and plug it in?
Modern lithium batteries are pretty much all the same with little exception. Been recycling and repurposing lithium batteries for a couple years.
Ideal usage you want to keep battery charge between 20 and 80%. At the minimum for longevity you want to avoid draining the battery all the way down on a regular basis. Lithium batteries do not get a memory like the old ni-cd.
my new s22 ultra and I suppose lots of new phones have extend battery feature you can enable which limits charging to 80%, and it also says like you mentioned don't go below 20 percent. i actually use the feature at night in case i forget to unplug it because even though these batteries don't go past the danger point, they trickle down then charge back up, over and over and I guess that uses up cycles over time shrinking battery life. personally, I think they all die significantly after 2 years.
Well i only have the first quest but honestly i pretty much have it plugged in 24/7 lmao except on occasion when im playing a game that requires more movement or when im not near an outlet for whatever reasons i still get that 2 hour battery life it gets. Also i dont see the harm since the quest 2 has that elite battery strap you would charge the fully internal battery with. Batteries and chargers now days are built to not overcharge things so no harm is caused. The only annoying thing is i havent been getting a low battery warning since quite a good number up updates ago, having my quest randomly die on me sucks x)
Is the battery pack you were talking about able to connect to the elite strap battery
I’m planning to get the HTC vive deluxe strap and the adapter to use it with the quest 2, will the charging dock still fit in it or no?
is there a way of getting a notification of when its fully charged from the app or any other ways