0. 0:09 - Introduction 1. 1:00 - Duck sounds! 2. 2:00 - Buzzer noise and distortion 3. 4:17 - Add the distortion to the duck sounds to create a basic kargyraa 4. 6:13 - Sustain the kargyraa, 5. 7:32 - Play around with different tones, vowels, shapes of the mouth and tongue to modulate the sound as you like!
You all should listen to this guy! I'm a 26 year old woman from Sweden who has always wanted to be able to do harsh vocals but never been able to even come close to making any type of scream or distortion happen. Until i watched your videos and started with by learning throat singing. And then that unlocked everything! Now i can do throat singing, sub harmonics, fry screams, false fold screams and I've even been able to make some totally wacky sounds by combining a bunch of techniques to sound unlike anything I've heard online. And that's all because of this guy!
Thank you so much for sharing that story - I am very happy to read about your progress, great job! If you release a song or even just record something during your practice, please let me know, I will gladly listen :)
Sore throat here. 😊 Thank you for your tutorial. You have really helped me to understand how to do the technique. I’ve had more success listening to your pointers than other UA-camrs giving pointers on how to sing this way. Hopefully I will get there one day.
Thank you for the kind words :) The discomfort and sore throat might be signs that your vocal folds are working way too hard and there's an extra friction that irritates them. Normally, it shouldn't appear and the level of comfort should be at least on 7/10 (when 10/10 feels like "heaven" and 1/10 means that you feel like you are about to lose your voice). The most common traps causing the discomfort are: 1. Lack or not sufficient work of the breath support, 2. Flexing abs way too hard, 3. Pushing too much air through the throat, 4. Aiming for too loud or too high sound, 5. Tension in the neck, jaw or larynx. You can also try a simpler method: ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
You are born to be a teacher. You have very precise awareness of your own inner vocal mechanisms (a form of body awareness) and are able to communicate these precisely and clearly. I hope you are able to earn some money off of this! With a little exploration of awareness of your jaw and tongue positions, you would probably be able to master a variety of language accents and teach those as well.
Thank you, it means a lot to me! The awareness you mentioned is mostly a result of the fact that I was quite bad at vocals when I started and I needed to develop a deeper connection with my body to make any progress :D I needed to observe my body, the flow of air, the muscle work, look for various patterns and learn how to make sounds using various tissues inside of the larynx. For quite a few years it felt as wandering in a dark hall and bouncing of the walls in order to eventually find the proper way or as digging in a mine to discover something valuable. If everything went smoothly from the start of my vocal adventure, I don't think that I would understand what I do, and how to teach it to someone else. :D
Dude thanks so much, this technique has helped me greatly in my journey to throat singing master haha. I love black metal and recently got into this norse pagan music like Wardruna and Heilung which has had me feeling very inspired to learn this style!
Thanks for the video. Someone on the screaming Reddit recommended Kargyraa to me to help get more tone/remove the breathyness from my False Chord screams. Picked it up quickly over the last few days with your help. Still feels a bit raw in my throat though after doing it. Need some more work. Thanks for the video. Regards, Red.
Thank you for the comment and feedback! Indeed, kargyraa can help to get rid of the extra air from growl and false chord scream. If this method still feels rough, feel free to try this one, it's a bit less intense approach towards the kargyraa: ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html What can also help to improve the texture of false chord is practicing with the glottal compression. That's another thing that really helps my students (and my self too): ua-cam.com/video/uXLb0M916NY/v-deo.html
@@sibilaextremevocal Thanks, yes I have indeed checked those out too. Getting better thanks to your help. Sorry for my comment with a link, that was silly of me. Went to delete it myself after thinking about it but it's already gone. Thanks for the videos, hope to see more in the future. Regards, Red.
I didn't see the comment with a link :D Anyway, I am happy that your vocals get better! In case of any questions about vocals or if you record something, feel free to write anytime - xvocalcenter@gmail.com
I just got myself to what I'd call the first stage of learning these techniques. This is the perfect video to take me to the next level. Great explanations. I have subscribed. One thing I've learned in my first couple of weeks of practicing this, as with anything, practice every day, but recognize when it's time to stop for the day. A lot can be achieved in 15-20 minutes at the beginning.👍
The urge to cough might be a sign that your vocal folds are working way too hard and there's an extra friction that irritates them. Normally, it shouldn't appear and the level of comfort should be at least on 7/10 (when 10/10 feels like "heaven" and 1/10 means that you feel like you are about to lose your voice). The most common traps causing the discomfort are: 1. Lack or not sufficient work of the breath support, 2. Flexing abs way too hard, 3. Pushing too much air through the throat, 4. Aiming for too loud or too high sound, 5. Tension in the neck, jaw or larynx. You can also try a simpler method: ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
That's true - if your vocal folds work too hard, such sounds will be uncomfortable. Kargyraa is coordinating the engagement of true and false vocal folds but there has to be a balance between their work, otherwise it's easy to create extra tension, friction and discomfort.
I find if I try the buzzer or like revving a motorcycle that no matter what I do it scratches the bottom area of my throat where I'm generating the sound. Feels like it's constricting the walls together and gets dry and scratchy immediately, reminds me of like how if I screamed as a kid it just tears up my voice and hurts right away. I can get something that sounds and feels kinda right by doing what I've heard from a metal scream video which I think is more of a vocal fry thing? It happens either above or below the spot where I try to make buzzer noises, like if I try to do a groan like getting out of bed, it vibrates really low, and then I can shift that up by going towards the nasal duck sound. So it feels and sounds interesting and it gives a lot of flexibility but I cant do the growl of the buzzer sound without pain. Anything I do that doesn't hurt just makes it not sound like a buzzer anymore
Hello! The most common traps causing the discomfort are: 1. Lack or not sufficient work of the breath support, 2. Flexing abs way too hard, 3. Pushing too much air through the throat, 4. Aiming for too loud or too high sound, 5. Tension in the neck, jaw or larynx. It's more about precision, not about extreme force or very high air pressure. Here's a tutorial with a different way of getting a vocal distortion: ua-cam.com/video/Bmoq7WGrGEk/v-deo.html Here's a different way of learning the kargyraa: ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html The lighter sound you described is called the vocal fry. It's created by the true vocal folds when they vibrate very slow and irregularly. It can be helpful for improving the vocal cord connection (to avoid using too much air while singing), achieving a delicate raspiness for singing or learning the sub-harmonic singing (you create overtones that make you sound like you were singing an octave lower). It won't directly lead to the false cord distortion necessary for producing the kargyraa (kargyraa coordinated the work of the true and false vocal folds).
It’s because he (the guy in the video) just said that you have to get distortion on the voice, and every human knows how to yell with grit, but the grit that untrained people use is super super bad for your vocals ! What you need to do is learn falsecord vocals with out any kind of makeup over it, a tip is to stick your tongue out and make falsecord noise for consistency. After practicing falsecord sounds for a year you’ll definitely have everything in unlocked already with out you knowing. For high vocal fry check out mixed voice tutorials by crazy singing
Kargyraa is coordinating the work of true and false vocal folds. Singing with distortion does it as well. Kargyraa has more distortion and false vocal folds are more active. While singing with distortion, the amount of distortion is smaller. If you combine raised voice with a lot of distortion, you get a yell scream (e.g. Slipknot). If you are able to hit the notes with or almost "sing with the scream", you get a pitched scream (e.g. Architects).
Now I will relate directly to your comment part by part: "It’s because he (the guy in the video) just said that you have to get distortion on the voice" - as I mentioned earlier, and I didn't invent it but it's something discovered by far smarter people than me, the kargyraa coordinates the work of true and false vocal folds. However, it requires a proper technique and precision to do it correctly, otherwise you can create constrictions, too high air pressure etc. that will cause discomfort. " and every human knows how to yell with grit" - first of all, not "every human knows how to do it" because some people are not used to making such sounds or they never made a sound like this. I observe it during lessons and I practiced with over 500 people. Some people need to discover their false vocal folds and it often feels for them abstract, as if they had to unlock a part of their body that they weren't aware of or never used it. Often it's related to their character and mild temper - they don't yell, grunt or make animalistic noises so they require a bit different approach to get a good sounding and comfortable distortion. " the grit that untrained people use is super super bad for your vocals !" - any type of distortion achieved by unhealthy technique will be "super super bad for your vocals", wow. Sometimes it also relates to "trained people" who are professional vocalists, play tours etc. but they were trained in a different field than extreme vocals (e.g. opera or jazz) or they learned how to sing with grit or scream but it's not 100% comfortable, although it sounds good, and they need to repair their technique (usually it's about fixing the precision of placement, breath support resonance and figuring out how much energy and volume is necessary to produce various sounds). I worked with people in such a situation.
"What you need to do is learn falsecord vocals with out any kind of makeup over it" - if a person aims for learning false chord growl or scream, or "pure false cord distortion", then sure, but if someone aims for singing with distortion or kargyraa, then it's crucial to learn how to coordinate the distortion with the voice. You can learn false chord in the first place, if it was easier or more comfortable, but in the end it's necessary to coordinate the work of the false vocal folds with the true vocal folds in the right proportions. "a tip is to stick your tongue out and make falsecord noise for consistency." - and how to achieve this "falsecord noise"? That's a serious question because I really want to learn something and I have no idea how sticking the tongue out by itself can activate the false cords. If someone tends to tighten or retract the root of the tongue, it might help to stick it out or even hold its tip during the exercise, that's for sure. It's also helpful for singing.
I practiced exactly the same way 10 years ago :D It reminded me a bit of a way how monks sing but I didn't know the term "throat singing" (not mentioning the "kargyraa" xD) back then.
If it hurts, it would be good to check if: 1. You use enough twang, 2. Enough support (from the right muscles), 3. Placement of distortion is precise enough, 4. There is no extra air in the sound, 5. The pitch isn't too high (or too low). Feel free to check a vocal distortion tutorial or other kargyraa exercises on the channel (there are playlists dedicated to distortion and kargyraa).
Hey! Thanks for the tutorial! Can You reccomend any songs for kargyrra beginners to practice on? I know I could try this on any Song but I would like to have a reference! Merci
Hello, personally I practice with the first verse of Sad but true by Metallica (a cappella because I am probably out of key as fuck xd). Beside that, I do anything that comes to my mind. It's much easier with the songs that you know. Sometimes I am just talking like a robot
So does kargyraa uses nasal cavity as well? I've been trying for a few weeks to throat sing but I feel like I'm stuck on which parts of the throat/palate/? are used 🤔😩
Hi! I've been Tuvan style throat singing for a while, I'm not an expert by any means, but there is a specific style called chalandyk that combined the lowness of Kargyraa, and the overtones of Sygyt. You first get into the Kargyraa, then you almost plug your nose (kind of like how they do certain sounds in the French language, nasally) and you place your tongue towards the top of your mouth.
Today I've uploaded a new, much better kargyraa throat singing tutorial. I highly recommend you checking it out! ua-cam.com/video/5IGqkdykLyA/v-deo.html
If it hurts, it would be good to check if: 1. You use enough twang, 2. Enough support (from the right muscles), 3. Placement of distortion is precise enough, 4. There is no extra air in the sound, 5. The pitch isn't too high (or too low). Feel free to check a vocal distortion tutorial or other kargyraa exercises on the channel (there are playlists dedicated to distortion and kargyraa). If discomfort is above 2-3/10, then it's a sign that probably one or more things from the list above need fixing.
A slight discomfort, like 1 or 2 out of 10 is tolerable during the first tries, but overall it shouldn't hurt. A few viewers asked about it. You can look up for a reply to a similar question for more details :)
Hello, hello, hellooo 👋🏻. Hope you're doing well, I'm better now, starting to be happy again 🙃. Teacher, I watched the video of your new song, Who I Am? and reminded me of one of my songs, named I Am, and it's from my second album 😃😉. I loved very much your screaming 🤗, aaand... I'd like to know better your band Imperial Sin, interesting, interesting 🧐✨️. I think I'll love it too and I'm likely to become a fan of yours! 🔥 Nachsatz: You look photogenic in thumbnail again 😋🙌🏻📸.
@@sibilaextremevocal No teacher, I'm so sorry 😭😭😭. I don't have my band yet and haven't finished the first album ☹️. What I have are just names of all my themes 🧏♂️. Some of my songs are already done but I'm currently modifying the guitar solos only... Ahhh, Suppress, Your poisonous bite in me, Prince of Shadows, Rise of the Realm... they're transforming into their best version now 👌🏻. I think you'll be the first person who's gonna see my art 🫵🏻😉.
Overall, it's good to observe which vowels work best for you, master the basics with them and then transition from them to the ones that are more challenging. You don't need to practice everything at once, just focus on those things that are easy, comfortable and consistent, and gradually increase the level of advancement (gradually longer sounds, different vowels and syllables, transistions between different vowels, syllables, different pitches etc.).
This is honestly one of the best tutorials out there, I want to thank you for getting me to where I am now with my vocals. I've done inhales for so long since my 17 years of age, but never managed to actually master or get used to exhales. After a while, even if it was for hobby and fun I decided to put my best effort into it, it's been a year following many tutorials and practicing daily. This video has been so far the biggest help I got, and the easiest to understand and feel. After a while, practicing from 5-40 hours while taking rests, one day I finally found my voice. I wake up every day and growl or scream by nature like it's a habit. I can sing the whole alphabet with no problems in either mode, and even count to a thousand. It's been quite a ride, here's an example short of how my vocals feel now: https: // www. youtube. com/shorts/VnGJJNEW6FU . Something casual really, been posting some stuff up since I got hyped and next I might post a full scream vid. Pay close attention to Sibila's video everyone, and trust me you will get far if you focus on this early, experiment, and start feeling the changes over the days. For those who already have managed to pull inhales preety well, this should not take you that much. Some people take between 2 or 4 years to finally find their voice, strenghts, and weaknesses. But everyone is different, with time and dedication you will start to notice how you evolve as a vocalist. At the beginning I remember I had a lot of falls and mistakes that needed correction, that and the fact my throat, chest, ears, nasal zone, hurt depending on how I did it. One day I just basically woke up and found out everything has been balanced somewhat? I really don't know how to explain it, but it feels like your low, mid, and high voice end up in synergy. It doesn't hurt, you can growl, scream, and talk without getting stuck or even having complications doing it. The body gets used to it, your lungs, throat, and diaphragm as well. So yeah, it's just about practicing and not giving up. Every minute or moment wasted, is golden. Doesn't matter how much time it takes, keep it up and you will find your inner voice sooner or later. The only thing I'm having trouble for now is perfecting my exhaled squeals, since in inhale mode they are no trouble at all. Anyways just wanted to put this little message up for everyone, and those who are still wondering if this actually works like it is supposed to, or if the video is really helpful? Well, to answer that? It covers the basic modus operandi like it should, by a professional, and someone who had to deal with it for so much time before being one with his own brutality. For those struggling so much, let me tell you the following: If you have managed to actually sing the whole ABC's at max vocal speed, or in a slower more brutal way, then you know you may already have complete control over your lungs and air compression (Here's an example as well www. youtube. com/shorts/0gyBeu5XTgs). One of the most important things to me is knowing your limit, and how much time you can keep up with your vocals before the breakdown/beatdown/pause hits. If you already feel comfortable controlling the air in and out like you were talking casually, then you are one step close to just feeling it all as a habit. Cheers, good luck to everyone, and thanks for everything Sibila Extreme Vocal. Stay Metal lml.
Hello, I'm happy that my stuff helped you! I've listened to your recording and I can hear that the placement of your false chord is there, you can smoothly switch between lower, darker and higher, brighter sound which is great! You can also pronounce words and perform longer phrases - that's a great foundation for the further growth :) The next step that can help you to further perfect your technique is working on the breath control and compression. More specifically, it's about learning how to prevent that much air from leaking with the sounds that you produce. I sounded similar about 3,5 years ago, when I've got sick, probably on co,vid, which made me loose 10 kg, of which the most was the muscle mass that I've been building for almost two previous years, and my respiratory system got so weak that even walking upstairs, just two floors, was making me exhausted, although I kept on doing the breathing exercises (in a moderate way) and cancelled only one lesson (of course, online lessons :D) during the time of illness. I write about it, because I went through a process that in the end helped me to get my false chord back and even improve it, make it less breathy, fuller and lower, so maybe these things will also turn out helpful for you. I will add to them also the things that I didn't know back then. Shortly - doing a bit of cardio - in the beginning just walks, then faster walks, then swimming or exercising with an orbitrec, treadmill, or cycling, etc. The next step was practicing holding the "sss" and "fff" sound for as long as possible, while paying attention to letting the belly and lower ribs area slightly expand on inhale, keeping the lower ribs expanded and letting the belly button move to the back as I was holding the "sss" or "fff" longer and longer. At the same time, the solar plexus area should gently move forward and muscles along the spine flex a bit. The next step was practicing with the clean voice and improving my ability to hold a note for as long as possible. Usually the vowel "oo" and mid or mid-high pitch were the easiest options to use at first. Overall, strengthening the middle part of the vocal range, both with cleans and false chord helped a lot. Introducing some exercises that strengthen the core, like those, also helped: ua-cam.com/video/tD8uZNVL4wM/v-deo.html Another thing that was extremely helpful was practicing vocal distortion and kargyraa throat singing (you can find some tutorials on this channel). Then learning how to go from kargyraa or distortion to false chord helped me to achieve a richer texture, higher density and better breath control. The thing that I started to practice next was the glottal compression. I've been using it for fry scream, but I checked if it can be also used for false chord and it turned out to be an extremely helpful trick as well. Once the middle part of the voice was stronger, I've started to practice singing and growling lower, compress the sounds more, engage the support in a firmer, but not stiff manner, try to hold the sounds for longer time and recording songs. I still need to work on my breath control with false chord, because it's not where it could be (I've started practicing vocals to solve my problems with breathing so it's been an issue since start), but it's getting there. I write about it also because from what I've observed during lessons with the people that were using mostly inhaled screams or learned them in the first place, for some reason their vocals are much breathier, less supported and less compressed than in case of the people that start with a regular voice emission (exhaled vocals) practice. I will read the rest of your comment once I'm free, because now I must get back to the Complete Vocal Technique course that starts :D
"One day I just basically woke up and found out everything has been balanced somewhat? I really don't know how to explain it, but it feels like your low, mid, and high voice end up in synergy" - this is a sign that the technique has matured and everything became coherent, connected - awesome! Thank you for sharing your story - I think that a lot of people can need to read it and use it as an inspiration for continuing their vocal journey, even if it's not always perfect!
Feel free to try out simpler tutorials: 1. Vocal distortion: m.ua-cam.com/video/Bmoq7WGrGEk/v-deo.html 2. Kargyraa throat singing: m.ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html If you still had problems, it would be good to work on the foundations of the voice emission to make sure your voice is properly supported and set in a way that allows it to produce various sounds without excessive effort. Recently I released a new vocal course that I've been working on for the last year and it covers the most important principles of the voice emission and various ways of learning kargyraa throat singing and other techniques including distortion in safe ways that have been tested for many years with hundreds of students from all around the world. Here's a link with a $15 discount: www.udemy.com/course/a-complete-guide-to-extreme-vocals/?couponCode=YOU-ONLY-LIVE-ONCE
It might mean that: 1. The placement isn't precise enough and instead of using your false vocal folds, you are forcing your true vocal folds, 2. You are trying too hard and there's too high air pressure, too much air or you tighten your abs too hard, 3. Your breath support doesn't work properly which makes your voice box work too hard.
It shouldn't hurt. A delicate discomfort, like 1-2 out of 10, is tolerable but everything higher than that can mean that you practice too hard or your technique needs improvement.
0. 0:09 - Introduction
1. 1:00 - Duck sounds!
2. 2:00 - Buzzer noise and distortion
3. 4:17 - Add the distortion to the duck sounds to create a basic kargyraa
4. 6:13 - Sustain the kargyraa,
5. 7:32 - Play around with different tones, vowels, shapes of the mouth and tongue to modulate the sound as you like!
You all should listen to this guy! I'm a 26 year old woman from Sweden who has always wanted to be able to do harsh vocals but never been able to even come close to making any type of scream or distortion happen. Until i watched your videos and started with by learning throat singing. And then that unlocked everything! Now i can do throat singing, sub harmonics, fry screams, false fold screams and I've even been able to make some totally wacky sounds by combining a bunch of techniques to sound unlike anything I've heard online.
And that's all because of this guy!
Thank you so much for sharing that story - I am very happy to read about your progress, great job! If you release a song or even just record something during your practice, please let me know, I will gladly listen :)
Sore throat here. 😊 Thank you for your tutorial. You have really helped me to understand how to do the technique. I’ve had more success listening to your pointers than other UA-camrs giving pointers on how to sing this way. Hopefully I will get there one day.
Thank you for the kind words :)
The discomfort and sore throat might be signs that your vocal folds are working way too hard and there's an extra friction that irritates them. Normally, it shouldn't appear and the level of comfort should be at least on 7/10 (when 10/10 feels like "heaven" and 1/10 means that you feel like you are about to lose your voice).
The most common traps causing the discomfort are:
1. Lack or not sufficient work of the breath support,
2. Flexing abs way too hard,
3. Pushing too much air through the throat,
4. Aiming for too loud or too high sound,
5. Tension in the neck, jaw or larynx.
You can also try a simpler method:
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
@@sibilaextremevocal I've not seen a reply having even more info dude you're the best
dude you are a master coach with how well you did this tutorial :) cheers
Thanks a lot! Brilliant simple explanation, very helpful)
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it a lot!
Thank you so much maaan. It makes low false cords to a next level
Hey you reading this - I have this nailed, totally pain free and badass. This dudes videos work if you put the work in.
You are born to be a teacher. You have very precise awareness of your own inner vocal mechanisms (a form of body awareness) and are able to communicate these precisely and clearly. I hope you are able to earn some money off of this! With a little exploration of awareness of your jaw and tongue positions, you would probably be able to master a variety of language accents and teach those as well.
Thank you, it means a lot to me!
The awareness you mentioned is mostly a result of the fact that I was quite bad at vocals when I started and I needed to develop a deeper connection with my body to make any progress :D
I needed to observe my body, the flow of air, the muscle work, look for various patterns and learn how to make sounds using various tissues inside of the larynx. For quite a few years it felt as wandering in a dark hall and bouncing of the walls in order to eventually find the proper way or as digging in a mine to discover something valuable.
If everything went smoothly from the start of my vocal adventure, I don't think that I would understand what I do, and how to teach it to someone else. :D
Dude thanks so much, this technique has helped me greatly in my journey to throat singing master haha. I love black metal and recently got into this norse pagan music like Wardruna and Heilung which has had me feeling very inspired to learn this style!
2:25 Me when Ooga booga steals my rock again
Ooga booga are my favorite words - they fit most of the behavior of people and animals :3
Thanks for the video. Someone on the screaming Reddit recommended Kargyraa to me to help get more tone/remove the breathyness from my False Chord screams. Picked it up quickly over the last few days with your help. Still feels a bit raw in my throat though after doing it. Need some more work. Thanks for the video. Regards, Red.
Thank you for the comment and feedback! Indeed, kargyraa can help to get rid of the extra air from growl and false chord scream. If this method still feels rough, feel free to try this one, it's a bit less intense approach towards the kargyraa:
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
What can also help to improve the texture of false chord is practicing with the glottal compression. That's another thing that really helps my students (and my self too):
ua-cam.com/video/uXLb0M916NY/v-deo.html
@@sibilaextremevocal Thanks, yes I have indeed checked those out too. Getting better thanks to your help. Sorry for my comment with a link, that was silly of me. Went to delete it myself after thinking about it but it's already gone.
Thanks for the videos, hope to see more in the future.
Regards, Red.
I didn't see the comment with a link :D Anyway, I am happy that your vocals get better! In case of any questions about vocals or if you record something, feel free to write anytime - xvocalcenter@gmail.com
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I just got myself to what I'd call the first stage of learning these techniques. This is the perfect video to take me to the next level. Great explanations. I have subscribed. One thing I've learned in my first couple of weeks of practicing this, as with anything, practice every day, but recognize when it's time to stop for the day. A lot can be achieved in 15-20 minutes at the beginning.👍
Best tutorial i've seen on UA-cam. Great work man!
Loved how easy it was to get it and follow along.
Well done.
woah, that was quick! your tips are awesome! you really explain the feeling well which helped me to get it down! practice time haha!
the James Hetfield yeah actually helped me to find my false cords, TYSM!
Your step-by-step explanation was very helpful! I was able to get the technique down in an afternoon! Thank you!
Awesome, I'm happy it worked!
great class I hope I become as good singer as you one day! 🤘🤘
I hope you will become better than me :D
:D
I burst out with laughter as soon as my chest started vibrating
:D
Nice tutorial! Thank you
Thank you!
Le sabes mi bro
I cough every time on the buzzer
The urge to cough might be a sign that your vocal folds are working way too hard and there's an extra friction that irritates them. Normally, it shouldn't appear and the level of comfort should be at least on 7/10 (when 10/10 feels like "heaven" and 1/10 means that you feel like you are about to lose your voice).
The most common traps causing the discomfort are:
1. Lack or not sufficient work of the breath support,
2. Flexing abs way too hard,
3. Pushing too much air through the throat,
4. Aiming for too loud or too high sound,
5. Tension in the neck, jaw or larynx.
You can also try a simpler method:
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
I had the same problem, you might be using your true cord instead of false vocal cords
That's true - if your vocal folds work too hard, such sounds will be uncomfortable. Kargyraa is coordinating the engagement of true and false vocal folds but there has to be a balance between their work, otherwise it's easy to create extra tension, friction and discomfort.
Don't use your lower throat but the upper
When he started doing the 3rd step, he sounded like the old clippers I used to use ✋💀
Thanks Master!
I find if I try the buzzer or like revving a motorcycle that no matter what I do it scratches the bottom area of my throat where I'm generating the sound. Feels like it's constricting the walls together and gets dry and scratchy immediately, reminds me of like how if I screamed as a kid it just tears up my voice and hurts right away.
I can get something that sounds and feels kinda right by doing what I've heard from a metal scream video which I think is more of a vocal fry thing? It happens either above or below the spot where I try to make buzzer noises, like if I try to do a groan like getting out of bed, it vibrates really low, and then I can shift that up by going towards the nasal duck sound. So it feels and sounds interesting and it gives a lot of flexibility but I cant do the growl of the buzzer sound without pain. Anything I do that doesn't hurt just makes it not sound like a buzzer anymore
Hello!
The most common traps causing the discomfort are:
1. Lack or not sufficient work of the breath support,
2. Flexing abs way too hard,
3. Pushing too much air through the throat,
4. Aiming for too loud or too high sound,
5. Tension in the neck, jaw or larynx.
It's more about precision, not about extreme force or very high air pressure.
Here's a tutorial with a different way of getting a vocal distortion:
ua-cam.com/video/Bmoq7WGrGEk/v-deo.html
Here's a different way of learning the kargyraa:
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
The lighter sound you described is called the vocal fry. It's created by the true vocal folds when they vibrate very slow and irregularly. It can be helpful for improving the vocal cord connection (to avoid using too much air while singing), achieving a delicate raspiness for singing or learning the sub-harmonic singing (you create overtones that make you sound like you were singing an octave lower). It won't directly lead to the false cord distortion necessary for producing the kargyraa (kargyraa coordinated the work of the true and false vocal folds).
It’s because he (the guy in the video) just said that you have to get distortion on the voice, and every human knows how to yell with grit, but the grit that untrained people use is super super bad for your vocals !
What you need to do is learn falsecord vocals with out any kind of makeup over it, a tip is to stick your tongue out and make falsecord noise for consistency.
After practicing falsecord sounds for a year you’ll definitely have everything in unlocked already with out you knowing.
For high vocal fry check out mixed voice tutorials by crazy singing
Kargyraa is coordinating the work of true and false vocal folds. Singing with distortion does it as well.
Kargyraa has more distortion and false vocal folds are more active. While singing with distortion, the amount of distortion is smaller.
If you combine raised voice with a lot of distortion, you get a yell scream (e.g. Slipknot). If you are able to hit the notes with or almost "sing with the scream", you get a pitched scream (e.g. Architects).
Now I will relate directly to your comment part by part:
"It’s because he (the guy in the video) just said that you have to get distortion on the voice" - as I mentioned earlier, and I didn't invent it but it's something discovered by far smarter people than me, the kargyraa coordinates the work of true and false vocal folds. However, it requires a proper technique and precision to do it correctly, otherwise you can create constrictions, too high air pressure etc. that will cause discomfort.
" and every human knows how to yell with grit" - first of all, not "every human knows how to do it" because some people are not used to making such sounds or they never made a sound like this. I observe it during lessons and I practiced with over 500 people. Some people need to discover their false vocal folds and it often feels for them abstract, as if they had to unlock a part of their body that they weren't aware of or never used it. Often it's related to their character and mild temper - they don't yell, grunt or make animalistic noises so they require a bit different approach to get a good sounding and comfortable distortion.
" the grit that untrained people use is super super bad for your vocals !" - any type of distortion achieved by unhealthy technique will be "super super bad for your vocals", wow. Sometimes it also relates to "trained people" who are professional vocalists, play tours etc. but they were trained in a different field than extreme vocals (e.g. opera or jazz) or they learned how to sing with grit or scream but it's not 100% comfortable, although it sounds good, and they need to repair their technique (usually it's about fixing the precision of placement, breath support resonance and figuring out how much energy and volume is necessary to produce various sounds). I worked with people in such a situation.
"What you need to do is learn falsecord vocals with out any kind of makeup over it" - if a person aims for learning false chord growl or scream, or "pure false cord distortion", then sure, but if someone aims for singing with distortion or kargyraa, then it's crucial to learn how to coordinate the distortion with the voice. You can learn false chord in the first place, if it was easier or more comfortable, but in the end it's necessary to coordinate the work of the false vocal folds with the true vocal folds in the right proportions.
"a tip is to stick your tongue out and make falsecord noise for consistency." - and how to achieve this "falsecord noise"? That's a serious question because I really want to learn something and I have no idea how sticking the tongue out by itself can activate the false cords. If someone tends to tighten or retract the root of the tongue, it might help to stick it out or even hold its tip during the exercise, that's for sure. It's also helpful for singing.
I think of the chorus in freezing moon by mayhem and that’s how I learned
I practiced exactly the same way 10 years ago :D It reminded me a bit of a way how monks sing but I didn't know the term "throat singing" (not mentioning the "kargyraa" xD) back then.
Really like Kargyraa! Wish my vocal chords wouldn't hurt like hell after practising. 😅
If it hurts, it would be good to check if:
1. You use enough twang,
2. Enough support (from the right muscles),
3. Placement of distortion is precise enough,
4. There is no extra air in the sound,
5. The pitch isn't too high (or too low).
Feel free to check a vocal distortion tutorial or other kargyraa exercises on the channel (there are playlists dedicated to distortion and kargyraa).
Hey! Thanks for the tutorial! Can You reccomend any songs for kargyrra beginners to practice on? I know I could try this on any Song but I would like to have a reference! Merci
Hello, personally I practice with the first verse of Sad but true by Metallica (a cappella because I am probably out of key as fuck xd). Beside that, I do anything that comes to my mind. It's much easier with the songs that you know. Sometimes I am just talking like a robot
@@sibilaextremevocal lol, I appreciate people who analyse themselves ;) allright thanks for responding🤘
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Amazing!! 😄 I will try this out! Haha
Awesome! Let me know how it worked :D
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So does kargyraa uses nasal cavity as well? I've been trying for a few weeks to throat sing but I feel like I'm stuck on which parts of the throat/palate/? are used 🤔😩
There are a couple of sources of the overtones, nasal cavity is one of them :) A position of tongue and soft palate also matters.
@@sibilaextremevocal allright, thank you!
Hi! I've been Tuvan style throat singing for a while, I'm not an expert by any means, but there is a specific style called chalandyk that combined the lowness of Kargyraa, and the overtones of Sygyt. You first get into the Kargyraa, then you almost plug your nose (kind of like how they do certain sounds in the French language, nasally) and you place your tongue towards the top of your mouth.
Try mimicking Chewbacca also
Hell yeah
Today I've uploaded a new, much better kargyraa throat singing tutorial. I highly recommend you checking it out!
ua-cam.com/video/5IGqkdykLyA/v-deo.html
Is it supposed to make my throat feel hot??
It might feel warm but not itchy, constricted or irritated.
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like a car motor revving!
Yes, that's a very good visualisation! :D
You look like metal Theo Vaughn.
I look just like a guy who can do (and effectively teach) 16 different types of distorted vocals and doesn't get enough credit for it xd
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The next one will be about identifing as a penguin but I have no idea what sounds they make xD
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Is ist normal that it really hurts?
If it hurts, it would be good to check if:
1. You use enough twang,
2. Enough support (from the right muscles),
3. Placement of distortion is precise enough,
4. There is no extra air in the sound,
5. The pitch isn't too high (or too low).
Feel free to check a vocal distortion tutorial or other kargyraa exercises on the channel (there are playlists dedicated to distortion and kargyraa).
If discomfort is above 2-3/10, then it's a sign that probably one or more things from the list above need fixing.
Is it normal that it hurt?
A slight discomfort, like 1 or 2 out of 10 is tolerable during the first tries, but overall it shouldn't hurt. A few viewers asked about it. You can look up for a reply to a similar question for more details :)
Hello, hello, hellooo 👋🏻. Hope you're doing well, I'm better now, starting to be happy again 🙃.
Teacher, I watched the video of your new song, Who I Am? and reminded me of one of my songs, named I Am, and it's from my second album 😃😉. I loved very much your screaming 🤗, aaand... I'd like to know better your band Imperial Sin, interesting, interesting 🧐✨️. I think I'll love it too and I'm likely to become a fan of yours! 🔥
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Hello! Is your song published? I will gladly listen :D
@@sibilaextremevocal No teacher, I'm so sorry 😭😭😭. I don't have my band yet and haven't finished the first album ☹️. What I have are just names of all my themes 🧏♂️. Some of my songs are already done but I'm currently modifying the guitar solos only... Ahhh, Suppress, Your poisonous bite in me, Prince of Shadows, Rise of the Realm... they're transforming into their best version now 👌🏻. I think you'll be the first person who's gonna see my art 🫵🏻😉.
im struggling to transition between vowels without stopping :(((
Overall, it's good to observe which vowels work best for you, master the basics with them and then transition from them to the ones that are more challenging. You don't need to practice everything at once, just focus on those things that are easy, comfortable and consistent, and gradually increase the level of advancement (gradually longer sounds, different vowels and syllables, transistions between different vowels, syllables, different pitches etc.).
This is honestly one of the best tutorials out there, I want to thank you for getting me to where I am now with my vocals. I've done inhales for so long since my 17 years of age, but never managed to actually master or get used to exhales. After a while, even if it was for hobby and fun I decided to put my best effort into it, it's been a year following many tutorials and practicing daily. This video has been so far the biggest help I got, and the easiest to understand and feel. After a while, practicing from 5-40 hours while taking rests, one day I finally found my voice. I wake up every day and growl or scream by nature like it's a habit. I can sing the whole alphabet with no problems in either mode, and even count to a thousand. It's been quite a ride, here's an example short of how my vocals feel now: https: // www. youtube. com/shorts/VnGJJNEW6FU . Something casual really, been posting some stuff up since I got hyped and next I might post a full scream vid. Pay close attention to Sibila's video everyone, and trust me you will get far if you focus on this early, experiment, and start feeling the changes over the days. For those who already have managed to pull inhales preety well, this should not take you that much. Some people take between 2 or 4 years to finally find their voice, strenghts, and weaknesses. But everyone is different, with time and dedication you will start to notice how you evolve as a vocalist. At the beginning I remember I had a lot of falls and mistakes that needed correction, that and the fact my throat, chest, ears, nasal zone, hurt depending on how I did it. One day I just basically woke up and found out everything has been balanced somewhat? I really don't know how to explain it, but it feels like your low, mid, and high voice end up in synergy. It doesn't hurt, you can growl, scream, and talk without getting stuck or even having complications doing it. The body gets used to it, your lungs, throat, and diaphragm as well. So yeah, it's just about practicing and not giving up. Every minute or moment wasted, is golden. Doesn't matter how much time it takes, keep it up and you will find your inner voice sooner or later. The only thing I'm having trouble for now is perfecting my exhaled squeals, since in inhale mode they are no trouble at all. Anyways just wanted to put this little message up for everyone, and those who are still wondering if this actually works like it is supposed to, or if the video is really helpful? Well, to answer that? It covers the basic modus operandi like it should, by a professional, and someone who had to deal with it for so much time before being one with his own brutality. For those struggling so much, let me tell you the following: If you have managed to actually sing the whole ABC's at max vocal speed, or in a slower more brutal way, then you know you may already have complete control over your lungs and air compression (Here's an example as well www. youtube. com/shorts/0gyBeu5XTgs). One of the most important things to me is knowing your limit, and how much time you can keep up with your vocals before the breakdown/beatdown/pause hits. If you already feel comfortable controlling the air in and out like you were talking casually, then you are one step close to just feeling it all as a habit. Cheers, good luck to everyone, and thanks for everything Sibila Extreme Vocal. Stay Metal lml.
Hello, I'm happy that my stuff helped you!
I've listened to your recording and I can hear that the placement of your false chord is there, you can smoothly switch between lower, darker and higher, brighter sound which is great! You can also pronounce words and perform longer phrases - that's a great foundation for the further growth :)
The next step that can help you to further perfect your technique is working on the breath control and compression. More specifically, it's about learning how to prevent that much air from leaking with the sounds that you produce.
I sounded similar about 3,5 years ago, when I've got sick, probably on co,vid, which made me loose 10 kg, of which the most was the muscle mass that I've been building for almost two previous years, and my respiratory system got so weak that even walking upstairs, just two floors, was making me exhausted, although I kept on doing the breathing exercises (in a moderate way) and cancelled only one lesson (of course, online lessons :D) during the time of illness.
I write about it, because I went through a process that in the end helped me to get my false chord back and even improve it, make it less breathy, fuller and lower, so maybe these things will also turn out helpful for you. I will add to them also the things that I didn't know back then.
Shortly - doing a bit of cardio - in the beginning just walks, then faster walks, then swimming or exercising with an orbitrec, treadmill, or cycling, etc. The next step was practicing holding the "sss" and "fff" sound for as long as possible, while paying attention to letting the belly and lower ribs area slightly expand on inhale, keeping the lower ribs expanded and letting the belly button move to the back as I was holding the "sss" or "fff" longer and longer. At the same time, the solar plexus area should gently move forward and muscles along the spine flex a bit. The next step was practicing with the clean voice and improving my ability to hold a note for as long as possible. Usually the vowel "oo" and mid or mid-high pitch were the easiest options to use at first. Overall, strengthening the middle part of the vocal range, both with cleans and false chord helped a lot. Introducing some exercises that strengthen the core, like those, also helped:
ua-cam.com/video/tD8uZNVL4wM/v-deo.html
Another thing that was extremely helpful was practicing vocal distortion and kargyraa throat singing (you can find some tutorials on this channel). Then learning how to go from kargyraa or distortion to false chord helped me to achieve a richer texture, higher density and better breath control. The thing that I started to practice next was the glottal compression. I've been using it for fry scream, but I checked if it can be also used for false chord and it turned out to be an extremely helpful trick as well.
Once the middle part of the voice was stronger, I've started to practice singing and growling lower, compress the sounds more, engage the support in a firmer, but not stiff manner, try to hold the sounds for longer time and recording songs.
I still need to work on my breath control with false chord, because it's not where it could be (I've started practicing vocals to solve my problems with breathing so it's been an issue since start), but it's getting there.
I write about it also because from what I've observed during lessons with the people that were using mostly inhaled screams or learned them in the first place, for some reason their vocals are much breathier, less supported and less compressed than in case of the people that start with a regular voice emission (exhaled vocals) practice.
I will read the rest of your comment once I'm free, because now I must get back to the Complete Vocal Technique course that starts :D
"One day I just basically woke up and found out everything has been balanced somewhat? I really don't know how to explain it, but it feels like your low, mid, and high voice end up in synergy" - this is a sign that the technique has matured and everything became coherent, connected - awesome!
Thank you for sharing your story - I think that a lot of people can need to read it and use it as an inspiration for continuing their vocal journey, even if it's not always perfect!
I just sound like I'm throwing uip lol
Feel free to try out simpler tutorials:
1. Vocal distortion:
m.ua-cam.com/video/Bmoq7WGrGEk/v-deo.html
2. Kargyraa throat singing:
m.ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
If you still had problems, it would be good to work on the foundations of the voice emission to make sure your voice is properly supported and set in a way that allows it to produce various sounds without excessive effort.
Recently I released a new vocal course that I've been working on for the last year and it covers the most important principles of the voice emission and various ways of learning kargyraa throat singing and other techniques including distortion in safe ways that have been tested for many years with hundreds of students from all around the world.
Here's a link with a $15 discount:
www.udemy.com/course/a-complete-guide-to-extreme-vocals/?couponCode=YOU-ONLY-LIVE-ONCE
What if I feel irritation in the throat when trying to add the distortion? :c
It might mean that:
1. The placement isn't precise enough and instead of using your false vocal folds, you are forcing your true vocal folds,
2. You are trying too hard and there's too high air pressure, too much air or you tighten your abs too hard,
3. Your breath support doesn't work properly which makes your voice box work too hard.
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at beginning your throat hurt
It shouldn't hurt. A delicate discomfort, like 1-2 out of 10, is tolerable but everything higher than that can mean that you practice too hard or your technique needs improvement.
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Siema, tak :D