My pleasure Sunny. Yeah what special body control he had right? And what he is showing and talking about here can be all understood with physics so anyone can understand it, but not very easy to do without the correct practice of the Wing Chun forms 😊
Thank you, Sifu Nima. I am genuinely grateful that you carry on this great tradition. Even though I am a handicapped senior, knowing you are not only teaching your students proper techniques of self-defence but instilled an excellent set of values with gentleness and humility. Take Care, Sunny Fung Surrey, Canada
Yeah, such amazing control he has with his body. and it was mind blowing to feel it. I guess some people have the eye for it and can see the effects on video but to feel it would still be surprising and unexpected for everyone.
Sooo, in the last section from 06:32, is it a) focusing (all mass) to the point of contact and manipulating (turning, shifting) _that point_ , or b) focusing on one point (e.g. contact point) with a strong connection (relaxed flow of energy) to the center of mass and than manipulating _the center of mass_ and the the contact point as a consequence? The latter reminds me of the word "outlet"
Its actually focusing the mass beyond the point of contact and into the opponent. So we were feeling that the contact point is a fulcrum and light but our balance was being affected
Won't be surprised if Si Gung doesn't need to hold onto handrails when the bus driver is speeding 😆 Jokes aside, I travel to work by train, and I practice standing and not getting toppled over by the train's rocking for fun. I wonder if this can aid at all in Wing Chun, or if it might even be unproductive for whatever reason, and I'd love to know if there are other supplementary exercises to familiarise myself with my center(s) of mass. Thank you for considering my question, your story and your mission inspire me very much! Love from Sydney!
I actually do the same on train and busses. Sigung said he did the same. haha Even Rickson Gracie said he would do it and in Brazil the minibus drivers used to drive very fast and furious style according to him. So, I think it's great practice for balance and therefore helpful for Wing Chun for sure
I always amaze to his explaination is so correlate to my practice in aikido, I think CST sifu is a genius person, his teaching are need years to understand and practice maybe 30 years are not enough, I have been practicing martial arts 40 years now, still his explanation so fascinating
You seem like a very bright and switched on person yourself to be able to see the level of CST as a teacher and a practitioner. 40years of Martial Arts will do that to a man 😊 Respect!!
Watching this video I dont know what I did is a martial art or only sport. Now I dont know how deep is the ocean and how high is the mountain, and the infinite of the knowledge are, only sky is the level. Even though I practice until I die I might not understand anything at all !!!
I think he's discussing about root at a high level. In the beginning it's about ground path and allowing force to fix at the spine where it can be recieved and used. At a even higher level the root line that goes heaven to earth is condensed to a single point and this point can be fixed to a point in space(floating root). This point once understood can be put in different locations to act as a base for recieving and sending force as well as a fulcrum for levers to work with maximum efficiency.
Yeah sounds about right, just using different words to explain the same thing I think. he tried to keep it in line with physics as much as he could and so would explain that way. Having said that, he was very open about saying he doesn't know what Nim Lik (Qi) is. He would say " I can fo it and demonstrate it clearly but I can't explain what it is that is flowing"
@@MindfulWingChun I love how he shows and discusses putting this center of mass point outside of the body. I have seen this from very few teachers as most want you to keep center of mass in your torso. Some styles like Emei fire dragon move and twist like Bagua but their center point of mass/rotation is actually kept in front of themselves. In some Taiji practice the center point of expansion is in front if the body in between the two elbows.
Sorry I talk like a "know it all" but I am just thinking with my keyboard. I personally have strong foundation in several modalities but am still trying to understand/unravel/comprehend the advanced while I test and strengthen my basics to mid level understanding. I have only really begun to understand and experience stuff like floating root in the last few yrs even though I have been practicing internal arts since early 90's. I am grateful for CST for preserving these advanced skills and to you Nima for sharing it with the rest of us while also keeping it grounded in reality.
@@jasonsecretsword7606 In high level of tai chi, intention of force to opponents shoulder/spine then to hip or dead angle (between foot) is better than his root. In other words instead of focusing on where to put center of mass, focus should be where you want most force to go in. By just intention, contacted parts of body properly use will converge and seize the areas (force going to those areas) Great tai chi practitioners can transfer force to part of body and tell you “now I put my force, shoulder, spine, hip” etc etc If focus is higher up center of mass that force will go to shoulders and spines first If your center of mass focus is opponent hip areas. Then force going there. Intention to body parts is better approach than “now my center of mass is here then control opponents”
@@jasonsecretsword7606 In partners practice There is no time nor control of putting center of mass here and there, because partner also receives/gives back force. Center of mass is by product of many things and in real contacts practice or fight, one does not have control over it. What he has control is his intention, to transfer force into opponent areas or between their leg, or one side of leg etc etc. Also properly done forms his balance is always proper(even his center of mass move here and there) so it’s not concern in taichi. Center of mass is always changing as it moves. But our nervous system takes care of that other wise we fall down. Taichi uses nervous system to take care of his balance. It’s practitioners intention to where to put force
connecting body and putting whole body weights in different location via intention will have different effects than just connecting body and grounded then rotating or other movements. Putting more weights on opponents create more stronger resistance then others tight up more
I find it most interesting when he says that the lower legs are separated from the COM. I speculate that it's maybe related to how our bodies are similar to tensegrity structure
Lower body should be exclude in term of generating power this is the foundation of cst teaching, I think Shaolin Tse martial art exclude it since their adopting bodhi dharma teaching of yi jin jing
So in the first clip he's talking about the center of mass and the fact that every object had a center of mass and it depends on the shape of the object as to where that is inside the object. In the 2nd video he's talking about the center/axis in which he turns the body around. if the axis is put outside the body for example, then the mass would travel through the circle's circumfrance (the circle being from his spine to the parnters spine).
And of course combining the two internal and external force in multiple directions is important, you can't defeat even small force coming from multiple directions by resisting in only one direction maybe two
yes exactly. that's how we describe the goal of the Chum Kiu form: 1. to find and utilize your Center of Mass and 2. the use and application of Multi-vector force created with the limbs and body
@@MindfulWingChun and then of course through manipulation of your center of mass, say you are able to actually change it's location within the body, at speed, you can powerfully strike or block with virtually no external movement
@@MindfulWingChun but yes you do a very wonderful job on this. I've watched basically all the videos lol master chu is quite proud of you and your work I'm sure
Yes another thing many misunderstand, like we've talked about before yes the physical muscles of you core etc are important, you couldn't stand without them lol, but many miss the part where your "center of mass", center of gravity etc is not a physical object but more of a magnetic field of energy within your body(and mind btw your brains number one focus and function is keeping your body balanced)
We activate the very deep core muscles through what is called Taigung in Cantonese which can literally be translated to contract anus. however the abdominal muscles, lower back, glutes and hip flexor are all soft when felt by someone else. there is no external muscle tension
@@wdalts No! we definitely don't want to thing about tucking the tailbone as that results is tucking the pelvis (anterior tilt) which is not good for the lower back, and ends up tightening the hips.
@@MindfulWingChun yes they are not the same, and it is internal "relaxation" as well which is different when you use the internal release of power to manipulate the external body than it is when you do it just through the muscles. From what I gather atleast the taigung is essentially opening up the source of the power and allowing it to flow to the rest of the body
How do you use any of this in a self defense situation against a aggressive unpredictable opponent.Just standing there letting someone perform techniques on you without any resistance whatsoever is all you wing chun peoples do.In all my years in martial arts practice and fighting i have never seen or encountered a wing chun fighter that was worth a crap.
this is to demonstrate how force is generated. It's not a 'technique' dude. If you don't understand that part there is no point explaining to you and I suggest you watch the other videos on our channel to get a better idea first
It's incredible how Grandmaster Chu used his internal energy to move his opponents. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure Sunny. Yeah what special body control he had right? And what he is showing and talking about here can be all understood with physics so anyone can understand it, but not very easy to do without the correct practice of the Wing Chun forms 😊
Thank you, Sifu Nima.
I am genuinely grateful that you carry on this great tradition. Even though I am a handicapped senior, knowing you are not only teaching your students proper techniques of self-defence but instilled an excellent set of values with gentleness and humility.
Take Care,
Sunny Fung
Surrey, Canada
He can freely flow his ki, I wonder how does his Ki felt like?
Grandmaster able to shift and transfer the centre of mass outwards without any movement. Really amaze by the move.
Yeah, such amazing control he has with his body. and it was mind blowing to feel it. I guess some people have the eye for it and can see the effects on video but to feel it would still be surprising and unexpected for everyone.
Is it different with tai chi approach? Since his ki should penetrate the body outward right but tai chi hit internal organs
This is a jewel of knowledge and understanding, enlightment
Yeah he had a lot of nuggets in his teachings. Was such a blessing to train with him every night while he was still around
Sooo, in the last section from 06:32, is it a) focusing (all mass) to the point of contact and manipulating (turning, shifting) _that point_ , or b) focusing on one point (e.g. contact point) with a strong connection (relaxed flow of energy) to the center of mass and than manipulating _the center of mass_ and the the contact point as a consequence?
The latter reminds me of the word "outlet"
Its actually focusing the mass beyond the point of contact and into the opponent. So we were feeling that the contact point is a fulcrum and light but our balance was being affected
Won't be surprised if Si Gung doesn't need to hold onto handrails when the bus driver is speeding 😆
Jokes aside, I travel to work by train, and I practice standing and not getting toppled over by the train's rocking for fun. I wonder if this can aid at all in Wing Chun, or if it might even be unproductive for whatever reason, and I'd love to know if there are other supplementary exercises to familiarise myself with my center(s) of mass.
Thank you for considering my question, your story and your mission inspire me very much!
Love from Sydney!
I actually do the same on train and busses. Sigung said he did the same. haha
Even Rickson Gracie said he would do it and in Brazil the minibus drivers used to drive very fast and furious style according to him.
So, I think it's great practice for balance and therefore helpful for Wing Chun for sure
I always amaze to his explaination is so correlate to my practice in aikido, I think CST sifu is a genius person, his teaching are need years to understand and practice maybe 30 years are not enough, I have been practicing martial arts 40 years now, still his explanation so fascinating
You seem like a very bright and switched on person yourself to be able to see the level of CST as a teacher and a practitioner. 40years of Martial Arts will do that to a man 😊 Respect!!
Watching this video I dont know what I did is a martial art or only sport. Now I dont know how deep is the ocean and how high is the mountain, and the infinite of the knowledge are, only sky is the level. Even though I practice until I die I might not understand anything at all !!!
I think he's discussing about root at a high level. In the beginning it's about ground path and allowing force to fix at the spine where it can be recieved and used. At a even higher level the root line that goes heaven to earth is condensed to a single point and this point can be fixed to a point in space(floating root). This point once understood can be put in different locations to act as a base for recieving and sending force as well as a fulcrum for levers to work with maximum efficiency.
Yeah sounds about right, just using different words to explain the same thing I think. he tried to keep it in line with physics as much as he could and so would explain that way.
Having said that, he was very open about saying he doesn't know what Nim Lik (Qi) is. He would say " I can fo it and demonstrate it clearly but I can't explain what it is that is flowing"
@@MindfulWingChun I love how he shows and discusses putting this center of mass point outside of the body. I have seen this from very few teachers as most want you to keep center of mass in your torso. Some styles like Emei fire dragon move and twist like Bagua but their center point of mass/rotation is actually kept in front of themselves. In some Taiji practice the center point of expansion is in front if the body in between the two elbows.
Sorry I talk like a "know it all" but I am just thinking with my keyboard. I personally have strong foundation in several modalities but am still trying to understand/unravel/comprehend the advanced while I test and strengthen my basics to mid level understanding. I have only really begun to understand and experience stuff like floating root in the last few yrs even though I have been practicing internal arts since early 90's. I am grateful for CST for preserving these advanced skills and to you Nima for sharing it with the rest of us while also keeping it grounded in reality.
@@jasonsecretsword7606
In high level of tai chi, intention of force to opponents shoulder/spine then to hip or dead angle (between foot) is better than his root.
In other words instead of focusing on where to put center of mass, focus should be where you want most force to go in.
By just intention, contacted parts of body properly use will converge and seize the areas (force going to those areas)
Great tai chi practitioners can transfer force to part of body and tell you “now I put my force, shoulder, spine, hip” etc etc
If focus is higher up center of mass that force will go to shoulders and spines first
If your center of mass focus is opponent hip areas. Then force going there.
Intention to body parts is better approach than “now my center of mass is here then control opponents”
@@jasonsecretsword7606
In partners practice
There is no time nor control of putting center of mass here and there, because partner also receives/gives back force. Center of mass is by product of many things and in real contacts practice or fight, one does not have control over it.
What he has control is his intention, to transfer force into opponent areas or between their leg, or one side of leg etc etc.
Also properly done forms his balance is always proper(even his center of mass move here and there) so it’s not concern in taichi. Center of mass is always changing as it moves. But our nervous system takes care of that other wise we fall down.
Taichi uses nervous system to take care of his balance.
It’s practitioners intention to where to put force
connecting body and putting whole body weights in different location via intention will have different effects than just connecting body and grounded then rotating or other movements.
Putting more weights on opponents create more stronger resistance then others tight up more
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I find it most interesting when he says that the lower legs are separated from the COM. I speculate that it's maybe related to how our bodies are similar to tensegrity structure
Lower body should be exclude in term of generating power this is the foundation of cst teaching, I think Shaolin Tse martial art exclude it since their adopting bodhi dharma teaching of yi jin jing
Yeah I actually myself found that interesting the first time I heard him say that too...
Its still hard to understand what he's talking about. All he keeps is saying is 'the center is here and rotate here' I still dont get it
So in the first clip he's talking about the center of mass and the fact that every object had a center of mass and it depends on the shape of the object as to where that is inside the object.
In the 2nd video he's talking about the center/axis in which he turns the body around. if the axis is put outside the body for example, then the mass would travel through the circle's circumfrance (the circle being from his spine to the parnters spine).
@@MindfulWingChun love this explaination
@@jasonsecretsword7606 👍🏼🙏🏼
@@MindfulWingChun Thank you for the explanation. 🙏
@@MindfulWingChun does it mean the outside axis is determined by where you position your spine in relation to the other's spine?
And of course combining the two internal and external force in multiple directions is important, you can't defeat even small force coming from multiple directions by resisting in only one direction maybe two
yes exactly. that's how we describe the goal of the Chum Kiu form:
1. to find and utilize your Center of Mass and
2. the use and application of Multi-vector force created with the limbs and body
@@MindfulWingChun and then of course through manipulation of your center of mass, say you are able to actually change it's location within the body, at speed, you can powerfully strike or block with virtually no external movement
@@MindfulWingChun but yes you do a very wonderful job on this. I've watched basically all the videos lol master chu is quite proud of you and your work I'm sure
Yes another thing many misunderstand, like we've talked about before yes the physical muscles of you core etc are important, you couldn't stand without them lol, but many miss the part where your "center of mass", center of gravity etc is not a physical object but more of a magnetic field of energy within your body(and mind btw your brains number one focus and function is keeping your body balanced)
We activate the very deep core muscles through what is called Taigung in Cantonese which can literally be translated to contract anus. however the abdominal muscles, lower back, glutes and hip flexor are all soft when felt by someone else. there is no external muscle tension
@@MindfulWingChun is taigong the same thing as tingyiu, to tuck in the tailbone?
@@wdalts No! we definitely don't want to thing about tucking the tailbone as that results is tucking the pelvis (anterior tilt) which is not good for the lower back, and ends up tightening the hips.
@@MindfulWingChun yes they are not the same, and it is internal "relaxation" as well which is different when you use the internal release of power to manipulate the external body than it is when you do it just through the muscles. From what I gather atleast the taigung is essentially opening up the source of the power and allowing it to flow to the rest of the body
As well as the energy will not properly flow if you are holding muscular tension it is the opening up or release that allows the power to flow
How do you use any of this in a self defense situation against a aggressive unpredictable opponent.Just standing there letting someone perform techniques on you without any resistance whatsoever is all you wing chun peoples do.In all my years in martial arts practice and fighting i have never seen or encountered a wing chun fighter that was worth a crap.
this is to demonstrate how force is generated. It's not a 'technique' dude.
If you don't understand that part there is no point explaining to you and I suggest you watch the other videos on our channel to get a better idea first