Wing Chun's CHI / Nim Lik - Chu Shong Tin
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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In this video Grandmaster Chu Shong Tin discusses and demonstrates the use and transmitting of Chi/Nim Lik/ Energy.
The clips are from seminars at Mindful Wing Chun in Hong Kong.
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What a wonderful Sifu and character. Thanks very much for sharing this.
My pleasure. And yeah he was an amazing human being with such a likable personality.
Great master and this is what wing chun really is. Wish I had a chance being his student. Really love your videos.
Keep up good work, thank you for sharing
Thanks very much for your comment :)
@@MindfulWingChun is there any chance you make Siu Nim Tao video ? I used to practice Leung Tings WC because that was best I could find where I live. Nowdays I work out of town during the week and would like getting back in Wing Chun by doing Siu Nim Tao as this is what I could do in a hotel room
I’ve been doing kamon wing chun for about 4 or 5 months now I’m loving it 🤜👋respect for this Channel thank you very much
Thanks Jack and happy that you find this channel useful. All the best in your training and hope that you get addicted to it :)
Really Appreciate this video.. tq Nima.. i'm from sym Lineage
My pleasure :)
Such a fun loving GM. Thanks very much for sharing this great personality.
Yeah he was a very special human being indeed. Cheers!
Awesome Video Sifu Nima not many people can see the difference of what Master CST was doing in this video, I do energy work myself and people who are not expose to this type of practice won't be able to see of even feel. I would like to feel you Nim Lik Sifu Nima, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment. If you can get to Hong kong or one of our seminars then please do, and that way you can get hands-on experience 👍🙏
Very informative. I am studying the Sunny Tang ( Dun Wah ) Ving Tsun. Moy Yat and Dun Wah were disciples of Ip Man.
bobby mars whoA I do kamon wing chun 👍💫👍 keep up good work then
Nice Bobby. I have a couple of online friends who are also studying Moy Yat lineage too. I dont know much about the actual style of the lineage but from me online interaction with the people in that lineage they seem to all be very humble and open minded people. A few instructors of the Moy Yat lineage are also on my Online School program too
@@MindfulWingChun My Sifu is GM Walter Jakimchuk in Ottawa Canada. He is a disciple of Sunny Tang. Very humble and knowledgeable.
內氣是由放鬆而來，念力是令關節加強力量
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Exactly!! :)
Nima, as always great video!)) Can you please do a subtitles for those who can't understand the interpreter's speech?) For non native English speakers (as I am) it's sometimes very hard to understand.
If somebody does english subtitles I can translate it also into spanish so more people can learn and benefit from this
Francisco José García Vizcaíno I'm willing to do it, but ask permission and message him
Sure, go ahead. I'm extremely busy at the moment and my video editing skills are not very good so it takes a long time for m!e to add subtitles. but if you would like to add it, please feel free :) cheers guys
Nima. Your videos are awesome. Your students were so blessed to witness a GM from the Ip Man lineage
Cheers from Canada
Real Jedi
haha, he was a special guy thats for sure!
Hi, Sifu Nima, I am waiting for your on-line course.
Hi Jason, wont be too long now. hopefully 2 more months and then ill launch it. Wanna have it perfect and exceed expectations and will launch it once im happy with it :)
Very interesting video, many things mentioned in the video by GM Chu as well as some of the effects are similar to the Taichi I'm practicing, I'm kinda curious if he discovered this on his own, or was Ip Man and his other disciples able to do this too.
Im not too sure if any other Ip Man student attained the same level as Chu Shong Tin did. One man who is still alive and teaching in Sydney is named Sifu Derek Fung. Sifu Derek is one of the early students of Ip Man who started in the 50s. He actually learned a lot from Chu Shong Tin and has said that he believed Chu Shong Tin was the best student of Ip Man.
Sifu Derek talks about the internal side of Wing Chun and is very highly skilled (and so are some of his students).
Master Chu did say that Ip Man had a high level of internal control - but on the other hand, Ip Man crowned him 'The King of Siu Nim Tao' so perhaps he acknowledged something in Chu Shong Tin that he didn't have within himself.
Chu Shong Tin told us a few times that Ip Man talked about 'Lop Nim' or the power of the mind and he mentioned that his master Leung Bik had a very high level of this "Mind-Power". He said Leung Bik was very small built and very old when Ip Man began his training under him and Ip was amazed at his effortless method of developing tremendous power.
Hope this helps,
Nima
Hi thx for the reply, what you said do make sense considering how majority of the ppl do Wingchun and how GM Chu's version is so different, I do think its highly likely that he has discovered something that others in the same line did not, and what is really interesting for me is that what he describe correspond to many other high level internal masters I've met from other systems, its pretty rare for someone to be able to discover this on their own I must say.
Thanks Nima for the shout out to Sifu Derek Fung. He is incredibly dedicated to teaching the internal way which is a rare gem in the Wing Chun world. Thank you for being Sibak CST’s spokesman in the internet age.
Magic!
Yeah he had some crazy, very hard to believe ability. He himself didnt know what it was and couldn't really explain it. I wouldn't believe this stuff by watching it on a video. This needs to be felt directly to be believed for majority of people.
very important to describ Nim li
here is an article you can check out by chu shong tin: mindfulwingchun.online/the-hidden-power-of-siu-nim-tao/
I want to feel you Energie... I don't believe this is possible...
I totally understand. Usually in open seminars, 10% of people attend cause they don't believe it and wanna feel it. I was also a skeptic before I felt it. I think its great to have an objective mindset. I would also like to meet you to be able to show you (but I myself am not as the level of CSt where he was transferring energy into people), but Im sure after feeling the basic joint control from me your mind will open up to believing the levels beyond that too
your videos are amazing. just i question Nima. Its a great loss that Chu Shong Tin passed away :(
So relaxing the spine and Dai Kong gives already extra force.
Sigong's Qi is the next level ? how much extra power does it give ? (i heard 5 times greater) ? but how much is the power (Qi) is more than just "relaxing, and dai kong" just like what you did Nima ?
Hey man sorry for the very late reply!! Yes when he used what he called Nim Lik it was not only much more powerful but if felt different too. It felt like our force would bounce back towards us as soon as contact was made. The relaxation and use of center of mass didnt have that feeling. So there was something definitly added and changed when he applied Nim Lik. According to him the texture of the muscles changed and became more elastic with Nim Lik too.
So ,
practicing a lot of siu nim tao we can get that energy?
Yes! but at first, try to use as little effort as possible. relax totally and fully and in this way. after prolonged practice, energy will flow on its own.
Hi
when doing extended time sil limtao, the bottom of the feet feels numb after a while, does it mean the stance is not correct ?
Hey, yes its due to lack of blood circulation due to tension somewhere in the legs. There is a video in this channel titled: 'Wing CHun's correct Stance'. check that out and see if it helps
Does it feel weird to have Nim Lik and Chi passed to you? Also, do you think Chu Shong-Tin learned to pass it on by Ip Man? Can you explain Chi and Nim Lik again and their differences? It's a little hard to understand the translator.
It feels relaxing and opening as it travels through, so its very comfortable. there is also a sense of confidence with it like a knwing that the joints can take on a lot of force. And No Ip Man didn't do this but he had heard of it from his teacher La=eung Bik (according to what he verbally told CST).
And you can say Nim Lik and Chi are the same thing. Energy, or intention traveling through the body...
Interesting placebo effect, but I’d like to see some science on this.
yeah man, hopefully we can get it tested one day as it is real so therefor science should be able to detect something.. We could say it placebo if he was just touching someone and saying ' yeah no you can do it', but actually as shown in the vid, if you held his forearm when he was mobilizing the energy, it is very very clear that there is something flowing in it. as i mentioned in the vid, he was able to make it go in the opposite direction too. and it wasn't just in his forearms, you could feel it in his palms, upper arms, legs and even (smaller pulsations) in the head.
only problem is that he passed away 3 yrs ago. so Im working very hard to try and pick up what he was doing and see if it can be put under test. Give me 5 to 10 years and perhaps I can attain a small level of it and out it under test :)
From my understanding chi is- its massive muscle control and the manifesto of complete uncloudy focus. We've all been there, where you're sparring and everything flows slower you can see things like you're in the moment, some primal clarity. I can't explain it but many experience.
Also this imo relates to chi and the internal forces like how the high ranks at my school move like a whip and can punch but the fist is still in your chest after it hits. (I beleive it also has to do with a perfect blend of two philosophies. Western boxings elastic recoil, and easterns bone stacking.)
www.healthguidance.org/entry/17392/1/The-Kinetic-Chain--How-to-Plug-Energy-Leaks-for-Better-Form-and-Fewer-Injuries.html
Also if this seems like voodoo do know one of the most popular Physical therapist on UA-cam talks about it. (Jeff caviler?) Atheleanx.
And legendary martial artist DK yoo is phenomenal at this. (Look em up)
Another thing to note. If you plug leaks and control the energy flow. We know that like in physics a pipe with compressed fluids has more pressure
I think it's Gay Lussacs law?or maybe boyles, one of the gas laws. Pressure goes up if volume goes down. (Inversly proportional.) So tight control means the pressure when released is explosive.
And the mental state thing. In Psychology I studied the plasticity of the brain and it's ability to change and grow and develop pathways. The transfer of info is dependant on the neurons. I believe the mental aspect of chi is possibly just developing pathways in the brain that lead to quicker reflexes and that focus state. (Flow state" according to Mind Smash on UA-cam. )
This is all I can offer at the moment until I learn much more and apply my engineering and science education to the eastern arts "magic " ("magic is science we don't understand yet.")
Sincerely just some meager Kung fu student and boxing chump.
I agree it looks like placebo from a force generation point of view. Having said that, I've myself experienced "energy" put into my body and felt it as a very powerful sensation before I knew anything like that was supposed to be happening. So I think there's an effect you can feel. However, from a forces/useful effect point of view, it looks very obvious e.g. at 10.08 when CST puts his hand on Nima's head that Nima is sinking down (watch the top of his head relative the sign behind), and from that advantageous angle is able to quickly slide the other persons fook sao up his forearm almost to his elbow gaining a significant mechanical advantage.
i agree that if you don't look at key elements of action and reaction... you may not see what the power generation is, but you can see an effect that has no explanation... but yes,senses can be manipulated, and if that's not done in a lab its more of a working theory, and I'm glad CST is so transparent with that.
@@MindfulWingChun
Blind men never believe in color. Chi is real. It is Spirit. But there are many "kinds" [which can only be "seen" as movements]. The "idea" is the type used, but each must be formed or combined: like water in a cup. The Word is the pattern set which the chi must follow. The Water is the spirit which takes the "shape" of the cup it fills. When one "speaks", the lips form the "breath" [vapor] which go outward and affect those it falls upon Just as the cup pours out essence through the "lip" or mouth of the glass. So it is with inner energy. When you use "weight", it adds weight to your attack, the "movement" is secondary to the spirit. Each idea is a kind which must be put in order and may be added upon other ideas until the same movement contains more power than before. But one can only use what is in one's "cup". Not everyone has the same kinds of chi within. And each kind of chi is counteracted by another "kind". Every man and woman is unique in what he possesses.
In other words: the chi is spirit which is "water" and feminine. The Word is masculine, which is the shape or intent given. The will of the user affects the strength of the effect.
Mundane force is mundane. Movement is effect, not cause. All things begin with stillness [an empty cup is of no use], then the idea and "will" send out the Chi to perform what it is meant to do. Every martial art has inner ideas or patterns filled with the invisible. The invisible moves the visible. The sail is flesh. The power to move ships is not in the obvious fabric, but in the unseen wind which drives it.
Don't worry about "skeptics", for they do not seek truth and prefer the dark. No one can argue with such force when they experience it. You have dedicated your life to this because it is real and important. CST sought the truth and found a hidden aspect. It goes deeper than the "martial", and will forever be vital to who we truly are.
can this be a placebo effect??
Dont think so man. you could literally feel a flow of something in his arms, it wasn't just imagination. He was scheduled to have scientific tests done at the university of Sydney but then when he was diagnosed with cancer he stopped traveling...
man, that's the only thing holding a lot of people back from believing. I wouldn't be surprised if hes one of the real masters that might offer to be tested. I wish i would have gotten the chance to meet what seems like such an amazing entity as CST.... I guess ill have to make sure i meet you Nima.
How long did Sigung take to master Wing Chun in general and then master Nim Lik after that?
He said he found handling his class mates like Wong Shun Leung, Lok Yiu and Leung Sheung easy to handle within the first few years of practice. But it took him a total of 14 years full time (7hrs a day) practice to finish the system under Ip Man before he started his own school
Mindful Wing Chun
Mindful Wing Chun did GM chu finally pass on his amazing nim lik knowledge to you ?
haha, I think he did a great job of passing on the knowledge. Now we just need to dedicate our life to practicing and applying the knowledge in the hopes that one day we will tap into the level of Nim Lik that he had :)
motivation, nop, Magic
Haha, yeah it does look like magic and this aspect even Chu Shong Tin didn't know how to explain. He was a very scientific man and he tried his best to explain everything through physics, but with this aspect even he was scratching his head in terms of what it is and how to explain what he could do.
If wasn't there and feel this from him for so many years and just saw a video on it, I know myself and I'd be extremely skeptical too
lol instant power buff on nima
ITS OVER 9000!
haha, yeah what am amazing feeling it was when he did that. towards the later years of his life when I was a bit more relaxed it was even more of a charge up. But man, nearly 10years later and I still cant do it on my own. Check in with me 10years from now and hopefully I will then :)
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Haha, it seems like magic but is very real. This is the highest level of Wing Chun Kung Fu as far as we know...
Translation not perfect
Yes unfortunately there weren't too many around him that could translate well. That's why I learned Cantonese myself as best as I could to not have a middle man to communicate with him.
I really doubt this teaching, not even found from Ip Man teaching. Also, one wouldn't have time to defend like that in a real fight even if this works. Also, not that many people can do it even if CST can.
Up to you what you want to belive mate. I'm merely wholeheartedly sharing and practicing what CST taught. I travel the world and touch hands with all types of martial artists and was a doorman for many years in Sydney's Kings Cross so have had my fair share of street fights and therefore can fathom what would be useful in a realistic situation. This type of training is not for everyone and ppl can choose their method according to their temperament, attitude, time etc... Thanks for your comment though man
I am pretty sure 1 WC Great Grand Master you never met. He is the best among those in Foshan though he wasn't that high profile as Ip Man. But he had a higher rank than Ip Man. He was short, very slim and looked very weak but he was very strong in term of skill. People was cheated by his outlook. I saw his photo that I won't even believe that. Foshan has also official documentary about him. This lineage which emphasizes internal energy and footwork. It also has Qi Kung which is to strengthen the health. Unfortunately, not that many people has the luck to learn from this lineage as there are not many masters teaching it. I am worried that it will lose its lineage in the next generations.
Its all bullshit non of this crap works in a real situation just little tricks todays wing chun is a sickness of arrogance they aint not one single wing chun famous fighter of today all.hype jobs of the masters wsl bruce lee only wing chun legends can any one show me one today
Chi is nothing more than magic.
It's Jinn related.
Not good and should be avoided as you're trying to use a different life form to give you energy.
Other aspects of Wing Chun are good such as body mechanics.
Not sure what you mean as its Magic and should be avoided?
@@MindfulWingChun Not everyone will understand.
The energy that's being generated doesn't seem logical.
It seems like it's from Jinns, search that up on Google.
Also if you want to try that same Chi while playing a recitation of the Qur'an, we can see if it works or not.
Sorry, you might not believe in Islam, but it's just a test to see what happens.