Echo Carb Modification EPA Plug Removal for High Speed Adjustment

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  • Опубліковано 28 січ 2025
  • Did you buy an echo that never ran right from day one? Stay tuned as I undo EPA Doodoo...

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  • @JoeClarke6819
    @JoeClarke6819 4 роки тому +13

    Keith Davis
    I've pulled that plug out of several echos and other trimmers. The heated small screw driver or small drill bit works great. Just heat and insert and then WAIT about thirty seconds. Once it cools it holds on much better. You can't just heat, insert and start immediately twisting or pulling. Give it a little time to set up.

    • @alexlist2032
      @alexlist2032 9 місяців тому

      The heat poke works like a charm

  • @johnrice1212
    @johnrice1212 5 місяців тому

    T8 fit like a glove and worked it right out! Thanks. Always used the heat and cuss method before .cheers

  • @SM-zf6ye
    @SM-zf6ye 6 місяців тому +2

    Small drill bit, heat the bit and insert it into the plastic plug, leave the bit in, let it cool and pull it out with pliers

  • @mferrarorace
    @mferrarorace 3 роки тому +10

    Yup, it works just fine. EPA is creating problems where none existed before Again.

    • @skybison_9
      @skybison_9 2 роки тому

      To push their stupid green agenda....
      Long live Respectful Americas and the and citizens of the world.

  • @heavymechanic2
    @heavymechanic2 Рік тому +1

    One point no-one mentioned is CARB (California Air Resource Board) has mandated Zero Emission on small equipment requiring all small engines be replaced with battery packs. 2-Cycle has been banned in Calif for many years and now everything under 50HP is outlawed. How long until all states follow their master plan? I saw a Ryobi push mower for 900$ in another video, the replacement battery packs (2) were 219 each.

    • @SomeoneVx
      @SomeoneVx Рік тому

      gotta love commieforina. Its always such bs with that state.

    • @ThisTimeTheWorld
      @ThisTimeTheWorld Рік тому

      CARBifornia is gay and semitic communist. Battery powered weeders are trash.

  • @Behringer765
    @Behringer765 5 років тому +5

    Thank you, been searching through youtube and it was your video that helped! I used the 7/64 bit method and it worked flawlessly.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому +1

      I'm glad it helped. I appreciate the feedback

  • @marknye51.thefixitguy
    @marknye51.thefixitguy Рік тому +1

    The brass piece is removable if you disassemble the carb and use a good pair of pliers , like Knipex pliers to remove the plug. I think I might invest in the Echo 2.5mm tool.
    My problem is the compression and the carburetor itself.
    Compression is 88 psi.
    I ordered a new carb so we will see if that's the issue or is it the compression. Spark arrestor and port are very clean.
    Thanks for the video.
    I have owned Echo for years with the High Low and Idle screws that are very visible and I wish they would have never changed to these , so called , fixed carburetors

    • @ThisTimeTheWorld
      @ThisTimeTheWorld Рік тому

      I bought a 26/28cc goped "High performance " carb and the screws were easy to access.

  • @dcsguy2546
    @dcsguy2546 5 років тому +6

    Thank you so much for this video I drilled out the plug with the 7/64 drill bit worked like a charm THANK YOU!!! subscribed and liked!!!

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      Thanks I appreciate it! Glad it worked good for you.

  • @benjaminschmidt7964
    @benjaminschmidt7964 4 роки тому +2

    Didn't realize how bad my weed eater was running until I tried this modification, now I'm getting twice the power at half the throttle I normally use. Thank you!!

  • @johnenriquez7044
    @johnenriquez7044 4 роки тому +3

    If you remove that plug. Does it void out the warranty.

  • @Alkatraz415
    @Alkatraz415 3 роки тому +2

    I took the carburator off and there is enough of he brass sticking up that I was able to grab the brass with mini channel locks and unthread it.

  • @markharris4260
    @markharris4260 Рік тому +1

    Just grab a drill bit that will fit snugly into the brass plug , the end of the drill bit that fits in the drill ,, NOT the cutting end , after getting a bit that fits snugly into the brass just pop it out sideways !

  • @thomasauto4862
    @thomasauto4862 5 років тому +2

    GREAT JOB! I got my plug out the same way and unscrewed the jet to clean but forgot to screw it in for the baseline setting. Trail and error didn't get it running. I'm going to start at 1 1/2 turns out and adjust. My new Ebat $15 card runs the same as the old one , so I have two carbs to experiment with. Thanks for the video!!

  • @davidrasmussen2975
    @davidrasmussen2975 2 роки тому +1

    That TACH will help guide you to optimum high speed jet. Engine can rev to about 9000 rpm max and then enrich to 8000 rpm.

  • @daninuesca3801
    @daninuesca3801 5 років тому +11

    Use a drywall screw at an angle it gets it right out..

  • @magicone9327
    @magicone9327 3 роки тому

    How do you sync the main meter screw, the idle meter screw and the the throttle barrel positioning screw?

  • @bubbajay4044
    @bubbajay4044 2 роки тому

    would this boost torque?

  • @demolaj1
    @demolaj1 3 роки тому

    OK SO how many turns did you end up on the screw ?? counter or clockwise ?

  • @petev5545
    @petev5545 4 роки тому +1

    Hey guy great video. Can you tell me the size of the thin carb adjustment tool your are using. Is it a packman or half D?
    Thanks

    • @andybecker2693
      @andybecker2693 4 роки тому

      On a 225 it’s just a slotted screw behind the plug. On the 2620 there’s no plugs, the high and low adjustments have to be made with a “micro d” tool. I was lucky enough to find the Echo adjustment set with a “micro d” tool and a “single d” tool but they’re kinda pricey.but well made.

    • @chewarmstrong
      @chewarmstrong Рік тому

      @@andybecker2693 hey Andy where can I buy the tools for the 2620? I recently bought a new 2620 trimmer and it vibrates more than my old one. What could the issue? Thanks!

    • @andybecker2693
      @andybecker2693 Рік тому

      No one will sell the Echo micro d adjustment tool, but just Google it and there are a couple of options.

    • @chewarmstrong
      @chewarmstrong Рік тому

      @@andybecker2693 I bought a brand new 2620 Trimmer and it vibrates a lot. My 4 year old 2620 is butter smooth. What do you think could be the issue? Thanks

    • @andybecker2693
      @andybecker2693 Рік тому

      @@chewarmstrong Not sure but I would take it back to the dealer unless you bought it online.

  • @beebopsnosering
    @beebopsnosering 5 років тому +2

    LOVE YOU BRO! I’m back in business! Thanks!

  • @1thess523
    @1thess523 3 роки тому

    I just got my carburetor rebuilt and now my SRM210 is running super fast, even without the gas on the head is turning like I'm giving ot gas.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  3 роки тому +2

      Could just be idle screw adjustment. Otherwise I'd check for a lean condition

  • @92EGcxGSR
    @92EGcxGSR 2 роки тому

    Do you have it at full or partial throttle when making your adjustment?

  • @omantoodle2437
    @omantoodle2437 3 роки тому

    Great lighting

  • @Vanguardcredit
    @Vanguardcredit 3 роки тому

    Can you burn the engine this way? since your are making it go faster?

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  3 роки тому

      The rpm is fine. If anything it will last longer bot running so lean

  • @seabass22
    @seabass22 4 роки тому +3

    Wish I would have thought of putting hour meters on my equipment. I would be curious to know how many hours are on my redmax 8500 in the past 7 years.

    • @nickgrottenthaler1809
      @nickgrottenthaler1809 4 роки тому +1

      I had a Redmax that lasted 12 years commercially, would've loved to know the hrs. on it!

    • @seabass22
      @seabass22 4 роки тому

      Nick Grottenthaler I got a trimmer with 8 years use on it. Still running good. Have another that got a donor engine off an edger, still running good. Lightweight trimmers, don’t vibrate much. My dad uses maruyama. He tears stuff up but they’re still running strong. Changing the grips and throttle cable out on two of them right now 😂

  • @tidakadaide
    @tidakadaide 3 роки тому

    I like the hour meter. I bought a couple to put on my machines....just have not done it yet :/

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  3 роки тому +1

      Yea I hear you, it's neat though. People think I'm crazy but it's interesting and helpful. I'm always surprised at how many hours I really do put on equipment in a season

  • @batmantiss
    @batmantiss 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks stud! You just saved me up to SIXTY DOLLARS on a new carb!

    • @set3777
      @set3777 Рік тому

      Prison time and/or fine for violating EPA rules will cost more than SIXTY DOLLARS.

    • @batmantiss
      @batmantiss Рік тому

      @@set3777 you're probably the stupidest person in the room. Every time.

  • @timtoomuch
    @timtoomuch 3 роки тому

    If you take a punch the size of the plug heat it up let it cool on the plug you can pull it right out

  • @TheLittlered1961
    @TheLittlered1961 5 років тому +4

    You have to love the EPA. Is the equipment being run at sea level or at 7000 feet? Makes big difference for the carb adjustment for a carb that can not be adjusted. No, one size does not fit all. I have lived at both elevations. Thanks to you, I now know how to adjust them.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому +1

      Yea haha. I'd be curious to know if dealers run into issues at higher altitudes. If they have customers complaining do they have to adjust 1000s? Glad it helped out!

    • @TheLittlered1961
      @TheLittlered1961 5 років тому +1

      @@jasonfrat9813 I have no idea. I currently live near sea level. When I lived at 7000 feet, you could adjust them. This was over 20 years ago. Today, almost every piece of equipment I have bought, 2 cycle, bogs. Guessing that they adjust at factory for about 3000 foot. Bet that they are all running to lean. Looking at more than a little adjusting here.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому +2

      @@TheLittlered1961 Its a shame really. I do know that the stihl dealers will test and tune purchased equipment for people. I recommend most people that cannot do it themselves to go the dealer route. Ive heard so many people complain of poor performance from brand new equipment and if there is no anti tamper it can be tunned in a couple minutes (allowing for warm up).

    • @TheLittlered1961
      @TheLittlered1961 5 років тому +2

      @@jasonfrat9813 Sadly not all of us can afford Stihl. Most of us go to home des pot. $80 vs $120 or more is a big thing. Yes, I know, Chinesiam vs good quality. Then again not big fan of our Stihl dealers here. Fuel intake hose rotted out on my Stihl chainsaw. They gave me the wrong part. Took same saw to another dealer for a tune up. Do not have RPM meter that can read 13,0000 RPM. They replaced the spark plug. Used 2 cycle gas, then starting fluid. Would not start and lost compression. Let it sit for a year or two thinking I screwed up the cylinder. For S&Gs I tried to start it again. Good compression. Think the rings got stuck. Still would not start. Checked the spark plug. No spark and plug was clean as a whistle. Engine never ran with that new plug they put in. Put new plug in and ran great. Moral of the story. Price does not guarantee good results.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      @@TheLittlered1961 Wow that's terrible they jerked you around like that. Believe been I know what you mean about the cost. That echo I have has been great so far. Cheap too

  • @mattyt6986
    @mattyt6986 3 роки тому

    You sound like a celebrity but I just can't think of who it is 😂 😂

  • @TheSpidersoftheworld
    @TheSpidersoftheworld 4 роки тому +2

    get a paper clip heat the tip to red hot plunge it into the plug let it cool then it pulls right out .

  • @franleck
    @franleck 2 роки тому

    I think these were added so they could be sold in California.

  • @wildeyedandbuckwild8639
    @wildeyedandbuckwild8639 4 роки тому +1

    if you push the gray button on your hour meter will show you the RPM's

  • @Patrioticweasel
    @Patrioticweasel 5 років тому +2

    Thanks so much, best video out there for this issue!

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      Thanks I appreciate it, glad it helped you!

  • @andybecker2693
    @andybecker2693 4 роки тому +2

    I know you’re limited on space but I would move that hour meter away from the back where you have it. It’s an air cooled engine forced by the fan and exits out the back. The engine could overheat.

  • @michaelparker5640
    @michaelparker5640 2 роки тому +1

    Always take the crappy factory carb off of the 225 and buy a 30$ carb off Amazon

  • @bullmastiff9991
    @bullmastiff9991 5 років тому +1

    Ouch Finally got down to the brass jet to find an flat surface instead of a slot, How difficult to remove and change jet? Thx

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      If it is smooth across the surface of the brass you're seeing, I would say you have just a brass plug. Perhaps that carb is a different model and that is just a plug for cleaning purposes?

    • @bullmastiff9991
      @bullmastiff9991 5 років тому +1

      Thanks , Maybe so, after the drill didn't remove all the plug I tried a 1/8"reverse thrd screw , it backed the plug out along with the brass ring around it! The echo looks identical to yours , being 2 year old maybe the EPA change the carb design so its not possible to set , my luck.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      @@bullmastiff9991 Yea very possible. Good luck with it!

  • @jamesmordovancey517
    @jamesmordovancey517 3 роки тому

    So you've adjusted it and now what? Do you replace that plug somehow or just leave it out?

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  3 роки тому +1

      Just leave it out. It serves no positive purpose, only a negative one by blocking your access.

  • @sun622
    @sun622 5 років тому +2

    I ruined the screw getting the plug out. Tried torx and drilling. It's difficult to tell when you're thru the plug until it's too late. HAS to be a better way.

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому +1

      Sorry to hear that, the only other thing I thought of was a small perhaps dental pick that you could pierce through the plastic plug and then hook it from the back and pull it out. However there is not much room between the plastic plug and the jet. Still worth saving the carb if you buy that jet online.

    • @sun622
      @sun622 5 років тому

      The blower works. The problem is worse now. I'll order another. Do they sell them without the plugs?

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      @@sun622 you can buy them without it but you can also just buy the Jet and save the cost of getting a new carb

    • @Bluesky-bx2ig
      @Bluesky-bx2ig 5 років тому +2

      My method, as suggested by another tuber, was to use a picture hanger screw small enough to fit. Forcing it in with needle nose pliers. Then when I feel its in far enough, I then wiggle and pull on it and out it comes easy easy! Hope this helps someone!

    • @jasonfrat9813
      @jasonfrat9813  5 років тому

      @@Bluesky-bx2ig Thanks for the advice.

  • @tacx1
    @tacx1 Рік тому

    E-P-A…….extreme-people-aggregation !!!!