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Did Kylo Ren Secretly Save Leia's Life Six Years Before The Force Awakens - Featuring Bryan Young
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2018
- Bryan Young explores some compelling evidence that Kylo Ren may have saved his mother from assassination in the book Bloodline by Claudia Gray.
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I want to address the timeline of Ben's fall to the dark side. I've always assumed that since Bloodline takes place six years before The Force Awakens, Ben must have fallen after the events of the book. But we really don't know when he fell. All we know for sure is that Leia didn't know. It's also possible that Snoke already had his hooks in Ben. Maybe he was somewhat involved in the First Order, but hand't massacred the other Jedi yet. Maybe he heard about the senate bombing and got a note to Leia. I don't know, but I do think the link between the handwritten note and the calligraphy set, both intentionally included in separate stories by the same man, is more than coincidence. But that's just my opinion. :)
And my view was that he fell BEFORE Bloodline. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
Pretty sure it's revealed in TLJ Novelization that Snoke had either met or known of Ben Solo back when the later was very young, like a baby or toddler/young kid. So yeah, I think it's very likely Snoke could have been influencing Ben to the dark side for a long while.
This could still happen without Ben having joined the First Order already or working through them. Remember Anakin had Force dreams about Padme dying, perhaps Ben had a similar dream given to him by the Force that showed his mother dying in a bombing of the Senate, so he found a way to get a message to her just in time.
I get the feeling Filoni will be the one to explain this whole thing.
Star Wars Explained In the novel, Ben is off somewhere with Luke. Perhaps Leia THOUGHT Ben was with Luke. Have you tried tweeting at Pablo Hidalgo or Claudia Gray to ask them? They might be their usual evasive selves though to their credit they are surprisingly interactive with fans but maybe they would say if they at least KNOW who gave Leia the napkin warning. I hope Dave Filoni’s next show is Star Wars Resistance as rumored so we can delve further into the beginnings of The First Order and The Resistance. Also, we could have more Leia.
I think Rian’s original idea was that Leia would be the one to redeem Kylo. Luke wasn’t capable of it, he accepted as much in TLJ, it would be like Obi Wan redeeming Anakin, couldn’t be done, the right person was needed and Leia was that person. Problem is that’s not possible anymore.
Daniel Ortiz it is possible. Rey Will reedem him,leia couldn't
I think Ben will redeem himself with motivation from Rey, just meeting her has already changed his life for the better. He’s killed his tormenter and is free to choose his own destiny for once. He will need to do the brunt of the work or else it won’t mean anything. I want to see him do it, continuing to suffer intensely, but it all being worth it in the end, Han’s death will mean mean everything in the end ♥️
well would you look at that
I LOVED THE Last Jedi. I think that the reason most of these questions are answered in books and comics is because only hard core fans are the ones asking the questions. Casuals that see the movies only are just in it for lightsabers and the force. Or they are children and can only view it from face value anyway. I also find it hard to have anger for unanswered questions when we still have a third movie in the ST. Both TFA and TLJ left me with the same feeling "I can't wait to see the next one and see how it all gets tied together." I think when it all gets tied together the fan base will have a collective sigh of relief and the full 3 part story will be told for them. I love the ST just as much as the OT and PT. my 3 favorite SW movies are Return Of The Jedi, Revenge of the Sith, and The Last Jedi.
Jacob Leevai Ostrer I really enjoyed it, too! I think in the long run, TLJ will not be seen by most as a blot on the franchise, as some would like you to think now. We forget that at first, Empire Strikes Back also had a pretty mixed reception, because part of human nature is to react against sudden change that we don't think we want. There were lots of fans (especially kids) that hated the Vader reveal, and didn't even want to believe it was true, which is why Yoda has to confirm it for Luke in Return of the Jedi! In the end, we all cherish ESB, and while I don't think TLJ is going to have exactly that same effect, I do think it will play an important role in Star Wars' future. It has already made the ST a lot more enjoyable for me, and out of all 9, I'd have to put it at 4th place, after Rogue One and a tie for 2nd with Revenge/Return.
aw it's kinda cute that Ben is a writer as Carrie is a writer in real life
Bryan Young is the man. He is a MUST FOLLOW on Twitter for Star Wars fans
You know, and I'm usually not like this, but he really gets on my nerves sometimes. Mike and Holly are always great and Bryan is usually too. But some times he is like nails on a chalk board.
"BuT tHe LaSt JeDi WaS tHe WoRsT mOvIe EvEr!"
No, that is awesome. If this is true, this is awesome. I loved Bloodline and thought it made up for the lack of the Senate on screen in TFA. As a fan of the Kylo Ren character, this only pours more into the story of Ben's emotional turmoil inside himself as he tries to attain greatness and truly "let the past die".
This also further cements Kylo Ren as a hipster if you just replace the calligraphy set for a typewriter =P
+Victor Balestrin LOL!!! "let the past die, unless it's a rare vinyl in mint condition."
Totally agree, it really bugged me watching TFA that nothing was explained in regards to the New Rebublic and the First Order and why there was a resistance group. I've since read the books and they've done an okay job at explaining the situation but the films shouldn't rely on books.
Lungorthin But this is the exact reason why the past Star Wars films feel so fleshed out. They released novel after novel, game after game, comic after comic filling in every blank they could.
For example, between ANH and ESB, we know some time passes by and people use that as an excuse for how Luke was able to train etc. When in the film, we don't even know how much time has passed and obviously he doesn't receive any training until ESB when he see's Obi Wan again. And because of exterior sources, people say he's been training for years! Yea right.
Just finished reading Bloodline a couple weeks ago. I never did buy off on the reasoning they guessed at for why anyone would warn them. It seems that Kylo would be the only one with both the knowledge of the bombing and the motive to save Leia. Very plausible theory, and borderline confirmed it seems with the calligraphy easter eggs.
Something else here I had not seen before: On Ben's desk there, is that also the compass Luke acquired in BF2 and later kept in TLJ? Very curious why Ben would have it at that time. More info needed. :3
I noticed that as well. Is that the same compass, or another one that just looks similar? Could they both have been trying to find Ahch-To together?
Carter Elkins very interesting thought, maybe Luke found it after Ben's fall, and that's why Kylo need it the map to skywalker.
Catherine Nyxsera luke had the compass in his hut
Yes, well aware of the compass in Luke's hut.
This makes me remember how much I enjoyed bloodline. Then I’m reminded of how much more I enjoyed lost stars.
Same haha. I'm not sure if they're books I'd read a second time but they were phenomenal
Both books were top notch
My brother has both books lying around, and I’ve been tempted to read them. Which one should I start with?
Execute Order 66
Why? Did they even have luke in it?
This reminds me of the Rogue One Visual Guide giving Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazaan a reason to be on Jedha.
I like it. All it needs is an explanation on how Ben knew the bombing would happen.
Alex Greaney It was a First Order operation, he probably knew already.
Fulcrum 67 But nothing in Bloodline indicates he’s with the First Order yet.
Alex Greaney I don't think he necessarily needs to know about the bombing at all. We know Luke could sense his friends were in danger from across the galaxy. It's only a small step further to say that Ben could sense that the danger would materialize at that time. Or, as some have speculated, he could already be under Snoke's influence, and found out about it/sensed it through him.
Talk about great timing since I just finished bloodline yesterday.
Bryan is a good dude and loves Star Wars, this was another great collaboration Alex has put together.
Brilliant - on Bryan's part to notice and on Ryan's part to do it; Last Jedi just keeps getting cooler
Speaking of things not happening by accident, nothing makes they final cut of a movie by accident either. I think Johnson also wanted the pen to cross his Jedi lightsaber as A.) Foreshadowing for his crossguard later, and B.) MAYBE shows that Ben's intelligence may be his second weapon. Sorta like his cross guard saber is. Maybe Ben uses this skill in Ep 9 to carry out a task he has it something. Really interesting!
From the understanding we have now, Ben Solo didn't find out that his grandfather was Darth Vader until after all of this. How I've understood it is the was the catalyst that pushed him to darker side of the force. (Luke's betrayal is the real turning point but this may have accelerated things). If he became Kylo Ren before this we don't know, but from reading Bloodlines it sounds doubtful. Also the people in charge of the Napkin bombing was a front but not the actual First Order so it's doubtful Kylo Ren would be apart of it. The representative of the First Order was pissed when she found out about this.
Unless Luke spilled the beans before this because let's be real. He has a track record of not being able to keep a secret about his family for long.
It's possible that it was Ben and not Kylo Ren yet either. Remember, the Force would give Anakin dreams about Padme dying, perhaps Ben also had a dream about his mother dying in a bombing so sent the warning to her.
David Underwood yes, but Ben Solo could have written that.... Maybe he forsaw it in a vision and sent someone to leave that paper in her plate....
The only thing that Bloodline confirms for us is that Leia is unaware of the situation with Luke and Ben entirely. His turn could have happened long before this and she simply doesn't know.
I assumed his turn had either happened very recently, or was just about to occur during the time of the book.
Very interesting theory, I had forgotten about this part in bloodline, great book
This was good. Great job by Alex to bring in another sound minded Star Wars Explainer!
Hearing Bryan Young’s voice when starting this video made me smile with delight :)
When did this channel get this many subscribers? Very happy for the well deserved recognition.
Well if you scrolled this topic in tumblr, the Reylo Community had already knew about this. They pointed out about Kylo's redemption and what not.
Because Reylos are the only ones to correctly predict a lot of the plot points of TLJ, whereas most other theories were completely bombed because they were too far fetched and not based on anything in the books/screenplay/scripts/movies/etc. Keep an eye on the Reylos, they'll probably have a lot of answers for episode IX and they'll be about 99% correct.
DragonRebelRose I am a covert Reylo. I didn't even like most of TLJ to be honest. But Reylo is really the only thing keeping me remotely interested in the trilogy.
Same, because honestly it's something we haven't seen in Star Wars yet on the big screen, a romance between two enemies, a romance between a dark side user and a light side user. It's the most original thing in the new trilogy and I can't wait to see where they take it. ^-^
DragonRebelRose Indeed! I agree that it is something fresh and new. They have been trying new ideas in places where they might not belong(Luke). But Reylo is something I was able to jump onboard with immediately. Not to mention the fact that it could be symbolic. If Ben and Rey were to be together, it would almost be like a form of healing for the Skywalker bloodline. The Skywalkers seem to have a problem with relationships in general. Anakin's dysfunctional/possessive relationship with Padme, Luke pretty much became a monk in regards to romance(as far as we know), And Leia couldn't make it work with Han...nor was she really the best mother for Ben due to her busy life and lack of trust in her son.
I think if Ben can redeem himself, he would be able to mend a lot of his family's wounds. As of now, he his a completely toxic person for Rey. But one of his redeeming qualities is his powerful capacity for empathy and being able to read other people. Rey might just be the person who can bring that out of him. She seems to be the only person who can get through to him on any level.
If Ben was with Luke at the time it is hard to believe Snoke would allow him to be in on the plot. How long was this before the temple burns? Also does this excuse Luke for his actions, because Ben was already so far gone he was involved in a plot to kill Leia
Have to point out that i've read most of the coments and i'm so happy to notice that pretty much everyone was positive in thread. What i mean is that people explained themselve and didn't fall into the insults. You guy were respectfull even if some disagred. That give hope for the fanbase.
Great connection, and a likely theory. Also, love Bryan's tweets, cool to see him featured.
I read Bloodline and certainly loved the book by Claudia Gray due to her well-versed knowledge and love for Leia, one of my favorite classical SW heroines. What an INTERESTING fun fact!! 🙂😮👍📚💖
I find it really bizarre that Rian Johnson had to be the one to flesh this out and not JJ Abrams. I used to have a lot of faith in the story group, they have handled the non-movie continuity really well. The lack of real planning for the course of the sequel trilogy is just really bizarre to me thought. There doesn't appear to be much thought in it at all. I appreciate giving directors freedom to do what they want in their own movies, but it seems to be making the trilogy lack cohesion. I like Rian's work, and I think his trilogy will be great because he will be helming all three films.
Jon Taylor It's not unusual for film productions. Normally, only simultaneous productions or adaptations have a full outline from the start. The original trilogy itself is a great example of how a series develops and changes from installation to installation. The sequel trilogy was planned to be made by different directors from the start, so that meant that things were intentionally left vague to leave space for future ideas
Jon Taylor That's exactly my problem as well. I didn't want to believe they would actually be so aimless with the new trilogy especially with the story group in place, but with the inside info coming out about how there may have not been any outlines in place for the story as a whole..it's just upsetting.
Jon Taylor except the story group doesn’t decide on overarching story for a trilogy, they’re just the ones making sure canon stays intact and that no one is deviating too much and if there is deviation then they step in the bridge the gaps - saying that the sequel trilogy lacks cohesion of an overarching story plot and then saying you used to have faith in the story group is really a misplaced blame - the story group doesn’t make the decisions, that’s up to the directors and writers and studio heads like Kathleen Kennedy and Bob Iger - they’re the ones with the power, the story group only looks over what is already decided to make sure it doesn’t go completely out of whack. So really your sentence should be, you used to have faith in Lucasfilm and not targeted at the story group itself. They can only give advice, they have no power to decide for a director or writer or studio head if that person wants something
Agreed. If they had a basic story line for these three movies each director could still very much put his own twist on it, i.e. how it looks, sounds, minor storyline beats and so on. Either way, I think what we got was okay. Like you said though, I definitely look forward to his trilogy as they will all likely have a plan laid out for them in the beginning.
Agreed. It's probably best if a single trilogy is written by one director, and not two or more, so my hopes are on RIan to direct his new trilogy.
Impressive. ...
Most impressive.
Jk Not really .
This can’t be right. Most of the references to Ben in the book are about how Leia misses him but she doesn’t know where he is or how to contact him because he is off training with Luke. If Ben was able to somehow find out about this First Order assassination attempt long before he even joined the first order, and somehow get to the planet his mother was on why would he just leave a note on a napkin and not just tell her himself? Would he and Luke have at least talked to Leia if they were on the same planet and in such a close vicinity? This is a real reach and I don’t think there’s any chance it could be right. Ryan Johnson might just like ink and quills, but don’t we all?
I think Ben's turn happened before Bloodline.
I thought it was implied to be after since it became public knowledge that Leia is the daughter of Vader and she states that she didn't want Ben to find out that way and wanted to tell him in person so she could tell him that in the end Vader turned back to the light.
But what would have felt like more of a betrayal? That Snoke told him and that his parents were keeping it from him and then, finally, they try to tell him only after it was public? Or if he just saw it on the news.
I think he's known for a loooong time who his grandfather was. Snoke had been in his heart for a long time.
Bryan Young nope, after
There's nothing in canon that says he turned after. Bloodline is from Leia's perspective and the only thing we know is that she doesn't KNOW he's turned yet if he already has.
more Bryan Young videos in the future! His insights are great!
I'm not sure I buy this. How would Ben know about this and how would he have gotten this note to her? He wasn't involved in the First Order at the time. In fact, he was still training with Luke during this time.
Well, he can sense most likely sense it through the force, but getting that note there.. He probably had to sneak out at night to leave that note there.
Ben might've been Kylo by then. Leia was never able to talk to Luke or Ben throughout the book because of "bad transmissions".
I don’t know why we are under the assumption that because he was training with Luke he just stayed in the temple. He was a 23 year old Jedi with almost complete training. I’m pretty sure Luke allowed him to get around. Maybe even commanded him to do missions helping people in other planets.
Reginald Mizer we don't know that for sure, that's what Leia thinks, but she hasn't been in contact with luke or Ben in a lot of time. Maybe he was with the first orden, but Leia didn't know.
I just started listening to Full of Smith, I love it.
blade users throughout time have used fancy handwriting as sword fighting basics. You see it alot in Japanese history and even to an extent Calligraphy. Why because of the precise turns of the pen is the expression in how the characters are made are all used to enhance saber training.
only thing that kinda debunks this is that Ben is still with luke at the time cause leia is worried about him finding out about the whole vader thing
I thought The Last Jedi was great because of some of the reasons brought up here and I think his new trilogy will be great
All I’m gonna say is...The Last Jedi is
ABSOLUTELY AWFUL.
I thought the Last Jedi was a bad Star Wars movie!!! It had so many problems and it ruined many great characters for me and brought new ones in that are pointless characters for the Skywalker trilogy!!!!
Gonzales98 I can't take you seriously kid
Wow! Full detective instincts here.. Nice!
Thanks, Bryan! 💜 Thanks, Alex! 💜
This is a pretty fun theory, but I have a problem with this theory to be honest:
1. Luke was training Ben on another planet at the time when the assassination attempted took place, so I don't think Ben would've been able to deliver that napkin to Leia when that happened.
He is a double agent I'm telling you.
What First Order do with Snoke body?
What else did kylo write with his calligraphy set? Dark poems, letters to his mom, love Poems to some pretty jedi students girl or boy, homework for Luke's jedi academy, notes for his training? I low want him to write a poem about the dark presence he felt before turing to the Dark.
Wow! this is an amazing and solid theory!!
More questions could come out from this: was Ben already in the First Order at the time? How did he get the napkin to Leia’s table? Did Leia know his son was actually a handwriting man?
Very interesting
Very intriguing, as Jerec the dark Jedi would say...
Wow! Now that is a awesome connection. I never really notice it before. I was always curious about who left that note for Leia in bloodlines. Now I am pretty sure Ben did it to save his mom. Which kind of brings another question to mind, why was is so easy for Ben to murder his father when he mentions being neglected and unwanted by both his parents in the last jedi novelization. Did he have more hatred for Han and why so?
i love tlj....come at me
HOW DARE YOU! /s
But seriously, TLJ is my number 1 SW movie. ESB had to move from the top to make a place for it.
Natalia Kępa yeahs it’s my favourite Star Wars movie
IM COMING AT YOU! To hug you :3
Matthew McCauley No, my friend. Not most people hated the movie. Those who hated it are still minority, they’re just louder and more vocal about it on the internet.
I loved TLJ and I can’t wait to watch it again :D I’m gonna get my Blue Ray this weekend!! ❤️
Same
Confirmation that the majority of the movie going public that saw TLJ will have no clue what the connection was nor care as they will never read any of the books.
How do we know that this is what Claudia Gray intended when she wrote the book and not a Rian Johnson retcon to alter previous established canon.
Awesome! Great video congrats.
Mind blown!
Anyone else find it interesting Kylo Ren can kill his father but can’t bring himself to kill his mother?
Anonymous Mills Well he killed his father and days (if not, hours) later he tried to killed his mother. Killing Han was very much traumatizing enough for him so he couldn’t bare another shock like that so quick. That’s what I think :P
I think it fits with his character. In the Force Awakens, he is a real basket case. Makes since that a basket case would hate his father and be a mamma's boy.
He didn't kill his mother because he felt she wasn't angry at him. When he killed Han he thought he would turn to the dark side fully, but it left him broken.
So, it's confirmed that Kylo Ren/Ben wrote depressing poetry. No wonder he fell to the dark side.
Can you do a video explaining everything we know about the mandalorians so far in Canon?
That is a cool theory but it’s wrong it says in the book that it wasn’t an assassination attempt but a distraction to get Leia off the investigation of Wynnriven dye. The the lady that was the head of the Amaxine warriors who planted the bomb wrote it on the napkin.
Cool video Star Wars Explained. This makes sense from what Rian Johnson showed in the Last Jedi. I actually really like this idea.
I doubt Kylo is the only person in the galaxy who owns a pen
This is amazing 😱
I didn't read the book so I wouldn't have known this. I don't know if it kylo for a fact but it may infact be from luke.
Rian
Wow, i never though that paper could be from Ben.
Most impressive.
That's a very interesting story, but it's kind of funny to think about: Ben went out of his way to save his mother, and refused to kill her, despite being given the chance to. His father however can burn in hell! .....I think someone's got daddy issues :P
J.J and Rian talked? That's funny
Woah a very interesting thing that I would like to see more of.
this video is soo awesome!!
Nice one!
During the time of Bloodline Ben was still with Luke but he was being manipulated by Snoke so it’s possible he may have known about the attempt However if he was with Luke how did he place the napkin on Hosnian Prime where his mother was??
Which of these shall I read?:
Thrawn, Bloodline, Phasma, Lost stars
Or he could have just verbally warned his mother and ensured she got the message?
There's must be a sign of Ben Solo somewhere in Kylo Ren's Sith like soul.
Aaron Samuels if there was one, there certainly isn’t anymore, this movie definitively made sure Kylo Ren is really just evil in the end - Luke isn’t saving him, Leia has let him go, and Rey closed the doors on him and has no more compassion - this film is the end of Ben Solo
Kylo Ren is not a sith.
Brilliant!
The answer is NO because hes not cannon.
Jason Langdon Yes she is not a cannon.
Thanks brain thank you for this hint bro.
This is really cool! I wonder how he got the note there exactly. Surely he didn't go there by himself so he must've appointed the mission to some random First Order member or a First Order sympathiser within the senate... I don't think we'll ever know lol
Could Kanan from REBLES use the force to influence the midiclorians to create life
AWESOME
This is really interesting. It raises some important questions. Chief among them:
Was the napkin one-ply or two-ply?
Why did Han and Leia name their kid "Ben"?
Ben probably because of Obi-Wan Kenobi. Satine Kryze called Obi Wan, Ben. Obi Wan used Ben as his name for hiding out on Tattooine. Most likely Han & Leia named their son after Ben (Obi Wan) Kenobi.
@@FireheartSamurai Right, but In-Universe it seems unlikely Han or Leia would choose to do that.
Common Tater It depends in all honesty. Leia could’ve named her son Ben because of Bail Organa. Bail helped raised Leia on Aldeeran, & Bail told Leia stories of Obi Wan Kenobi about how he was a good guy & all. Irl people get named after different characters like Zelda from the Zelda games, after celebrities, after someone like a deceased loved one, or other things. So it’s not that surprising Leia named her son after a respectable Jedi that her father knew & heard stories of.
Love it
Cue Ryan Johnson hate
I HAte RyiAN JohnsoON!1111!!!!1!
Director Kid I liked the movie, and that does not mean I’m blind. The exact same can be said on the other side of the coin. There is a lot of blind hate for the film as well. I acknowledge the criticism, but I take the film as a story connecting a universe, as what Star Wars is. I do praise you on being very mature in your comment though. Not many people explain there side, thus where much of the blindness is from.
The implication of that is Ben was affiliated with the first order before the news of his ancestory even came out. And he some how managed to get a hand written note from the Academy to Hosian. And that his affiliation with the First Order was both force and politics based, to the extent he'd be aware of the actions of the Amaxine Warriors.
I wonder if Leia saved herself in The Last Jedi or if Kylo did?
I've wondered the same thing. The movie definitely makes it obvious that she's consciously trying to save herself, but it would be cool if he were helping her along a little as well. Maybe he was, who knows.
The fan in me wants Rian Johnson to be a genius. Part of TLJ feels sloppy but I think it is just going to take time to disect everything.
R.i.p Carrie Fisher
Bloodlines?
Were is republic army in the force awakens and the last jedi??
Muhd Ikhwan the new republic didnt have a military
Yes they did. They had a fleet in orbit when Hosian Prime was destroyed.
Muhd Ikhwan the New Republic demilitarized, also, the ships they had were destroyed in the Hosnian attack
At the foundation of the New Republic, they passed a de-militarization act, so they did not have much of any army and navy. They left the individual systems to defend for themselves. Whatever we see in episode VII is probably almost all of it.
The plot happened
Ben solo
Lets get my friend here to 1Million subs.
Is this canon?
So Kylo was already involved in the first order and salved Leia's life.
Kylo u softy. Doesn't deserve to be supreme leader. He will plunged the FO into chaos
Hmm
i told all about this it had to be ben even before i saw tlj lol i was right ..
Very interesting indeed. I feel like I need to re-read Bloodline again
Brilliant. I would have never made that connection!
Damn. Very good deduction.
I can't get into the idea. I think the calligraphy is more of a callback to Seven Samurai, and foreshadowing the connection to his grandfather. I feel like that revelation that Darth Vader is connected to him would be an important part of his resentment that drives him down the path he follows. I'm sure Snoke had been stoking his emotions, but I don't think he'd revealed that before Bloodline. I can just imagine the other students reactions to Ben after that revelation, isolating him from his peers, and that feels appropriate to the story.
You also have to jump onboard with the idea that Ben would have almost certainly needed to be present to do this, hidden from Leia both physically and in the force (not to mention Luke failing to bring up Ben's fall to the darkside for several months). On the other hand, if you assume it was just the Amaxine sewing chaos that's much easier to put together.
like, like, LIKE!
Bloodline was as painfully boring as Aftermath was annoying and random.
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reach further,, further,,, nah,, too much of a reach.
40th like jedi bob
I don’t buy this. I still think Ben was good at this point or at least not involved with the First Order or certainly not involved enough that he would know the exact details of the plot to kill his mother. It’s simply a coincidence to set off an action scene in the book. The use of handwriting is there because it was hastily written and supposed to be hidden. If someone recorded a Star Wars universe Snapchat to warn Leia, it would just lead to more logistical questions as to its creation and delivery than a note would.
this is weak. honestly you guys are just trying to draw a connection here beyond what is probably thought out by anyone at lucasfilm.
not only that but the how would ben (he was still ben at around the book bloodline) find out about the bombing? let alone know exactly the moment to deliver a message on a napkin. even if through the force he had a vision, how would it be possible to get the note on a napkin to his mom from the jedi temple unless for some reason he travelled there to write it. but how and why.
it makes far more sense that the note came from someone in the know of the plot nearby.
your theory is pushing suspension of disbelief here. it isn't mind blowing at all. next you're gonna say ben used the world between worlds to get a napkin note to his mother.
For anyone who knows of this plot point, the calligraphy easter egg is VERY on the nose. I have a hard time believing that was put there by coincidence. Not to mention, who else in the galaxy would have both the knowledge AND the motive to warn Leia?
but why warn her through an anonymous letter though? if he had a vision, he would have warned luke who would contact her.
Well how many people in Star Wars write with ink? as far we know, one.
Always in motion is the future. How indeed.
with some time to digest this theory i would like to say that it is a neat headcannon that could open a range of story telling opportunities.
we know next to nothing about the ben to kylo path. we know almost nothing about ben and luke and their time training and ben's seduction to the dark side.
it is definitely noteworthy that ben and the students of luke's school learned calligraphy and read from real physical books. rian johnston seems to want to place grounded, older and less technologically reliant seeds into star wars and i'm not saying that's something to be ignored when it's clearly deliberate.
but i don't see it directly implying that ben wrote a note on a napkin with his calligraphy set.
if anything the note shows that in a galaxy as large as the star wars one, even old fashioned means of communication can save the day.
perhaps the note came from a lower class servant who had only outdated and largely primitive tools available to them. or perhaps there is some other origin of the note.
star wars is an ever evolving story and as different creative minds tinker with threads left around sometimes it's picking up subtle and barely connected threads that can make a neat story.
so while i continue to say it's a weak connection to make a snoke theory about, i don't mean weak to imply it's impossible or silly or a wasteful thing to pose as a question. perhaps it could turn out true that there is indeed something to be expanded upon.
i don't want it to seem like i'm one of those perpetually bitter star wars fans that scoff at all theories or questions. but my initial reaction to this theory has somewhat eased. now all that's needed is to wait and see what other details might be added as we go forward.
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