OMG, "you're never going to hear me talk about pressing on the outside ski... I align to the outside ski to receive" is just perfect! I could never figure out how to say this... I always tell my kids to be "patient" with the turn but that doesn't quite capture it... the pressure will come to them, they don't have to create it. Great chat.
I counted 20 "Gems" so far! I.e.1. inside half going up (instead of simply shortening inside leg), 2. Edging dominant skiers having problems in bumps & Rotational dominant skier's had issues with arcing skis. --I know that from my own skiing! 3. best description of alignment I've seen 4. The "Baseline" of how body should align through the turn 5. "Align to Receive"--getting spiritual! 6.have a conversation with the snow! --communicate through pressure! and so much more.. Must-see for instructors and all level skier's looking to level up. Phenomenal job Deb & Jonathan!
Deb, as always, what a great video at the right time of my life. Last year, I was ski instructing in El Colorado, here in Chile, this year I moved to Valle Nevado cause I got my ISIA Stamp. Anyway, it has been an Epic season, and this year, I've been to do much more the things that Jonathan has said in the video and I have discovered this season a totally new world in the slopes, putting myself into the slope, great video, at rhe right time, 😘 thanks Deb, appreciated 🙏🏽
Love this! Thank you Jonatan and Deb!. Love the angle of thought about receiving pressure. It will add another dimension to my skiing and coaching this season!
I read the title and thought "what the heck does receiving pressure mean?" and after watching this I feel like if I just had some snow I would be on the verge of one of those "breakthrough" moments that change your skiing forever! What an amazing video. Thank you so much, Deb.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Also loved the discussion on pressure vs edge angle vs rotary. Edge angle and rotary as appropriate to work with the pressure being received for the desired outcome.
Absolutely. Changing “shorten inside leg” to “entire inside half up” is a eureka moment. Kind of mind blowing. Can’t wait to work that into my early season approach this year. Thanks Deb and Jonathan!
This is amazing. I've never heard it explained like this. I have been trying to describe something like this to folks over the years. My visualization was a cable winch running through the spine between the legs downward into the ground. Top of the turn is the free-spool section. Slight changes of direction and speed acceleration in a body mass moving downward kind of thing. Like in salmon fishing when you get a bite you let some line out first. Let em take it. Feel the nibble coming through the skis. Mid turn with skis just starting to come around, tips have crossed over center line is where you start to compress against the forces pushing back on your skis. You are now starting to reel in the cable or shorten the length, mass is falling and in this you can feel the load up. Then depending on how fast you drop your mass through this section is the relationship with how much load you allow the snow pressure to put into your skis. Wind it up baby. The ski is the bow and your mass is the arrow. Right before you release the arrow or your accumulated energy you have allowed to push back on your skis, my mass is just over the rear binding shifting that energy through the ski and getting ready for the energy dump out of the tails. The winch is wound tight, loaded with potential. Then you release the arrow and try to catch up to it by sort of letting everything reset through the weightless glide section. Body mass chasing the arrow. I was a student of the White Pass Turn. Northern Division racer in the late 80's. We had a 92' gold medal winner in our division. I watched Franz Klammer win the gold in Innsbruck with my grandparents at 5yrs and it changed my life forever. Speed skied with my idol Franz Weber in the 90's leading up to the 92' demonstration event at Les Arc. I have been a long time Tele skier coming out of leather boots and cable bindings into the new world of NTN. I still ride 223's a few times a yr. "Flying through the air with the greatest of ease, oh that daring young man young man on his 223's." Sung by my hippie ski coaches at SnowBowl in Missoula in the late 70's. We learned how to pre-jump for DH on the Gelande jump landing at SnowBowl. As kids we spotted for our coaches who came down the in-run out of a cloud of smoke and tossing shotgunned beers, then they would launch, big time. The ol' daze. Thank you for this. Keep it coming. energy dynamics.
This is a very helpful conversation. Thinking of pressure, and receiving pressure as a means of navigating and in turn managing one's descent using skis on snow is as wonderfully practical as it is insightful. It is also wonderful to to become acquainted if but barely with Johathan Ballou, who I read grew up skiing on Mt. Brighton in Michigan. When skiing on a 70 meter ski hill, turns are naturally where the fun is. Of course, the taller the ski hill the more turns between resting on the lift. 😃
His discussion from 5:30 on makes a lot of sense. You have to be on the outside ski even when you lean inside to fight the centrifugal force. Many simply lean inside and lose pressure on the outside ski.
U2 make a wonderful combination for these videos. Working with Jonathan at a clinic was by far one of the best learning experiences I’ve ever had in snoww sports.
Managing energy, same concepts we have in ballroom dance and use for teaching. All about give and take and how you respond to it and coordinate with your partner. Also why picking up skiing later in life as a dancer was super easy because isolating the centers of mass (head, shoulders, and hips) is what we do for every style.
And that's why I am limited in bumps and powder, I really suck at it high edge angles poor pressure control not enough rotation. plus I need to ski it more. Thank you for the clarity totally agree with your assessment.
Totally agree. The snow has to push. It's not aways ready to if it's the wrong snow type or the ski isn't prepared or your speed is too low. This push from below is smooth and easier to handle if it bends the ski and the arc is graceful.
Deb, perhaps sometime in a future video you can expand on Jonathan’s comment about the benefit of having “…a degree of separation in transition because it promotes release.” Thanks, Marshall
One way to think of it is anticipation. All a matter of degree depending on the turn size, outcome desired, compensation from the previous turn, where the separation originates from, etc
This is where people go wrong about fat ski. Line outline 117, super soft in tip and back. My daily driver. You can ski this ski at high speeds like a slalom ski, gs turns, on the edge carving, or smiring like a fat powder ski. A good skier can dictate the radius of a soft ski. Stay away from the stiff designated carving skis if you want variety out of only one ski Go Deb
If someone is a good skier they can get performant out of a quality carving ski or fat ski in any conditions. The key is a good skier with a quality ski. Then it’s about preference. Thanks for your comment
Skiing is life, which includes sensation, experience, exhilaration, explanation, poetry, song, rhythm, spontaneity, dialogue, physics, definitions, technique, bias, interpretation, culture, Skiing is life
Skiing can be as simple or complex as one likes. Simple is outside ski to outside ski and keep moving to maintain balance. Complex can go in many directions, what defines balance, when does one ski become the new outside ski, etc. like playing the piano, what kind of sheet music does one want to play, playing complex sheet music takes years to master
ski technology and design. Sidecut and camber. Placing the ski on edge the ski bends into reverse camber as it carves through the snow. That increases pressure
Wait a minute, if you create the force by turning \ carving that causes the snow pushing on the ski you must exert an equal force against the ski to counter that force. Or you will explode.
I would love to really understand what these two are talking about. I’m an intermediate casual skier and even though I’m a practicing engineer, I have a difficult time translating their insights into cues I should focus on to improve my technique.
A lot of typical instructor gobbledegoop, but I like that he says he doesn't press on the outside ski like many suggest. There is no pressing involved.
Good stuff. I ski better the faster I go and some of that may come from when I first learned to race back in the late 70's, early 80s and the long (198cm straight race skis). I am a good slalom skier but not as good in GS until it's more of a Super G.
My first Deb Armstrong video of the season. I know it is time to start ski preparation but when The Beach Boys’ Surfin’ USA played in the background of the video my mind wandered away from skiing. JK
I can't fit my 205 skis on the bus. Those skis give their own feeling from camber. I can last longer on the old ones; but, no room on the bus. Got to use some new style, short ski.
Hi Deb, if you're in the mood for taking requests and don't see a problem commenting on another skier's UA-cam video could you explain what Mikala is working on with some of these drills please ua-cam.com/video/062XMAlpCVo/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
OMG, "you're never going to hear me talk about pressing on the outside ski... I align to the outside ski to receive" is just perfect! I could never figure out how to say this... I always tell my kids to be "patient" with the turn but that doesn't quite capture it... the pressure will come to them, they don't have to create it. Great chat.
Well said
I'm looking forward to another season of the highest quality ski content available to us mere mortals. Thanks for what you do, and take care!
Thank you
I counted 20 "Gems" so far! I.e.1. inside half going up (instead of simply shortening inside leg), 2. Edging dominant skiers having problems in bumps & Rotational dominant skier's had issues with arcing skis. --I know that from my own skiing! 3. best description of alignment I've seen 4. The "Baseline" of how body should align through the turn 5. "Align to Receive"--getting spiritual! 6.have a conversation with the snow! --communicate through pressure! and so much more.. Must-see for instructors and all level skier's looking to level up. Phenomenal job Deb & Jonathan!
This might be a game changer : "Inside half going up". I'll need to remember that in a month or so⛷. Thanks for that bit of wisdom.
Exactly
Jonathan is my favorite tech skier to watch, so much life and fun in his skiing, not just technical perfection!
"Inside half going up." I like that. I have skied with Jonathan. He is very knowledgeable. You too Deb.
So many great explanations, Jonathan! Thanks to both of you for making this video. Awesome! /Janus
Here's to another season of great insights! Loved the Ballou talk.
Thank you for supporting the channel. Happy you appreciate the videos😉
receive pressure from the snow and have a conversation with it --- such a cool way to think about skiing. Thanks for this video!
Deb, as always, what a great video at the right time of my life. Last year, I was ski instructing in El Colorado, here in Chile, this year I moved to Valle Nevado cause I got my ISIA Stamp. Anyway, it has been an Epic season, and this year, I've been to do much more the things that Jonathan has said in the video and I have discovered this season a totally new world in the slopes, putting myself into the slope, great video, at rhe right time, 😘 thanks Deb, appreciated 🙏🏽
Best one yet! Pieces of this will be played and replayed for our U16 and U18’s all winter. Thank you
Deb! Your videos always ALWAYS get me sooo psyched for the coming season! This discussion is no exception What a grest interview!
Glad you appreciate it!
Thanks for sharing this incisive conversation between two thinkers about the conversation between skis and snow.
The best ski channel ever! The wording to explain concept is very crucial.
Love this! Thank you Jonatan and Deb!. Love the angle of thought about receiving pressure. It will add another dimension to my skiing and coaching this season!
Thanks!
Thank you very much
I read the title and thought "what the heck does receiving pressure mean?" and after watching this I feel like if I just had some snow I would be on the verge of one of those "breakthrough" moments that change your skiing forever! What an amazing video. Thank you so much, Deb.
This video was just the kick start I needed for the 2024/2025 season! Thank you, again!
6:08 Love this, “Entire inside half up!!” Like Deb walking backwards up the stairs in her boots!
Hi David, we will be at it soon enough!!!!
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Also loved the discussion on pressure vs edge angle vs rotary. Edge angle and rotary as appropriate to work with the pressure being received for the desired outcome.
Absolutely. Changing “shorten inside leg” to “entire inside half up” is a eureka moment. Kind of mind blowing. Can’t wait to work that into my early season approach this year. Thanks Deb and Jonathan!
@@kirklwaAlso, it’s almost impossible to have excessive inside lead if the entire inside half is up! Keeps everything together!
This is amazing. I've never heard it explained like this. I have been trying to describe something like this to folks over the years.
My visualization was a cable winch running through the spine between the legs downward into the ground.
Top of the turn is the free-spool section. Slight changes of direction and speed acceleration in a body mass moving downward kind of thing. Like in salmon fishing when you get a bite you let some line out first. Let em take it. Feel the nibble coming through the skis.
Mid turn with skis just starting to come around, tips have crossed over center line is where you start to compress against the forces pushing back on your skis. You are now starting to reel in the cable or shorten the length, mass is falling and in this you can feel the load up. Then depending on how fast you drop your mass through this section is the relationship with how much load you allow the snow pressure to put into your skis.
Wind it up baby. The ski is the bow and your mass is the arrow. Right before you release the arrow or your accumulated energy you have allowed to push back on your skis, my mass is just over the rear binding shifting that energy through the ski and getting ready for the energy dump out of the tails. The winch is wound tight, loaded with potential.
Then you release the arrow and try to catch up to it by sort of letting everything reset through the weightless glide section. Body mass chasing the arrow.
I was a student of the White Pass Turn. Northern Division racer in the late 80's. We had a 92' gold medal winner in our division. I watched Franz Klammer win the gold in Innsbruck with my grandparents at 5yrs and it changed my life forever. Speed skied with my idol Franz Weber in the 90's leading up to the 92' demonstration event at Les Arc.
I have been a long time Tele skier coming out of leather boots and cable bindings into the new world of NTN.
I still ride 223's a few times a yr.
"Flying through the air with the greatest of ease,
oh that daring young man young man on his 223's."
Sung by my hippie ski coaches at SnowBowl in Missoula in the late 70's. We learned how to pre-jump for DH on the Gelande jump landing at SnowBowl. As kids we spotted for our coaches who came down the in-run out of a cloud of smoke and tossing shotgunned beers, then they would launch, big time. The ol' daze.
Thank you for this. Keep it coming. energy dynamics.
Great video Deb and Johnathan! More please!
The good times are right around the corner!
Lots of valuable insights! Definitely will try to practice them this season. Thank you both so much 🙏
This is a very helpful conversation. Thinking of pressure, and receiving pressure as a means of navigating and in turn managing one's descent using skis on snow is as wonderfully practical as it is insightful. It is also wonderful to to become acquainted if but barely with Johathan Ballou, who I read grew up skiing on Mt. Brighton in Michigan. When skiing on a 70 meter ski hill, turns are naturally where the fun is. Of course, the taller the ski hill the more turns between resting on the lift. 😃
this video was so dense with knowledge. ill have to watch it multiple times to pick up on what is being said.
Yep😉
Skiing is pressure management. Boom!
Another season of inspiration from Deb & her friends - I'm heading to the gym to get ready.
💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
His discussion from 5:30 on makes a lot of sense. You have to be on the outside ski even when you lean inside to fight the centrifugal force. Many simply lean inside and lose pressure on the outside ski.
U2 make a wonderful combination for these videos. Working with Jonathan at a clinic was by far one of the best learning experiences I’ve ever had in snoww sports.
Receiving pressure and rotary! Got it ♥️
Great message. Excellent interview.
Good timing. We are still skiing down here in NZ.
fantastic skier Jonathan Ballou
Some great insights in this video, thanks for doing what you do Deb!
Managing energy, same concepts we have in ballroom dance and use for teaching. All about give and take and how you respond to it and coordinate with your partner. Also why picking up skiing later in life as a dancer was super easy because isolating the centers of mass (head, shoulders, and hips) is what we do for every style.
Love it
And that's why I am limited in bumps and powder, I really suck at it high edge angles poor pressure control not enough rotation. plus I need to ski it more. Thank you for the clarity totally agree with your assessment.
Totally agree. The snow has to push. It's not aways ready to if it's the wrong snow type or the ski isn't prepared or your speed is too low. This push from below is smooth and easier to handle if it bends the ski and the arc is graceful.
What a great skier! Amazing technique
I love this discussion. Well done!
Glad you like it
Very insightful conversation! PSIA national team proven not only pro skier, but also excellent tutors
amazing!! more please!
jon has been a great skier and instructor since way back in the 90s in steamboat.
Really good stuff - thanks Deb!
Another keeper.
Amazing explanation 😱😱😱
That was really good!! Thx
Deb is awsome!
Excellent stuff. Keep it coming. ~Steezy Joe
Deb, perhaps sometime in a future video you can expand on Jonathan’s comment about the benefit of having “…a degree of separation in transition because it promotes release.” Thanks, Marshall
One way to think of it is anticipation. All a matter of degree depending on the turn size, outcome desired, compensation from the previous turn, where the separation originates from, etc
love this
Great review Jonathan👍 I will save this. Wide skis in my opinion, over done. For me it’s all about feeling the turn🤗
Deb, I'd be very curious on your thoughts on Carv - especially with the new hardware update this season.
Not familiar with the latest updates. I think CARV has a lot to offer
This is where people go wrong about fat ski.
Line outline 117, super soft in tip and back.
My daily driver.
You can ski this ski at high speeds like a slalom ski, gs turns, on the edge carving, or smiring like a fat powder ski.
A good skier can dictate the radius of a soft ski.
Stay away from the stiff designated carving skis if you want variety out of only one ski
Go Deb
If someone is a good skier they can get performant out of a quality carving ski or fat ski in any conditions. The key is a good skier with a quality ski. Then it’s about preference. Thanks for your comment
one more comment love your stuff you make it good
Thanks
Skiing is not words.
Skiing is life, which includes sensation, experience, exhilaration, explanation, poetry, song, rhythm, spontaneity, dialogue, physics, definitions, technique, bias, interpretation, culture, Skiing is life
How do we simplify? I’m always striving to do so. It’s hard to do. Skiing well is hard. How do we demystify this?
Simplifying is bad for business, it has to be complex and hard to understand to justify high price tag they are asking :)
Skiing can be as simple or complex as one likes. Simple is outside ski to outside ski and keep moving to maintain balance. Complex can go in many directions, what defines balance, when does one ski become the new outside ski, etc. like playing the piano, what kind of sheet music does one want to play, playing complex sheet music takes years to master
Great Video Deb! Great start to a new season!! Stay safe and healthy.. and have fun!
Thanks for these thoughts. I dont actually see the snow doing anything but compressing under the ski, how does it press on the ski?
ski technology and design. Sidecut and camber. Placing the ski on edge the ski bends into reverse camber as it carves through the snow. That increases pressure
Thought it was rotation of the femurs inside the hip socket. Not a rotation of the hips 4:50
Wait a minute, if you create the force by turning \ carving that causes the snow pushing on the ski you must exert an equal force against the ski to counter that force. Or you will explode.
I would love to really understand what these two are talking about. I’m an intermediate casual skier and even though I’m a practicing engineer, I have a difficult time translating their insights into cues I should focus on to improve my technique.
I have a playlist for the intermediate skier on my UA-cam channel. Check that out
A lot of typical instructor gobbledegoop, but I like that he says he doesn't press on the outside ski like many suggest. There is no pressing involved.
Good stuff. I ski better the faster I go and some of that may come from when I first learned to race back in the late 70's, early 80s and the long (198cm straight race skis). I am a good slalom skier but not as good in GS until it's more of a Super G.
My first Deb Armstrong video of the season. I know it is time to start ski preparation but when The Beach Boys’ Surfin’ USA played in the background of the video my mind wandered away from skiing. JK
I can't fit my 205 skis on the bus. Those skis give their own feeling from camber. I can last longer on the old ones; but, no room on the bus. Got to use some new style, short ski.
Ok loyal UA-cam watcher 😜 any video request? A few ideas for me?
WWHHD? - What Would Harald Harb Do?
Hi Deb, if you're in the mood for taking requests and don't see a problem commenting on another skier's UA-cam video could you explain what Mikala is working on with some of these drills please
ua-cam.com/video/062XMAlpCVo/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
hip lift
Gauged Pressure manipulations account for all applications of skill.
👍👌🥇🦿⛷️ Thank you for a great stuff!