Simply the Best ski video in a long time. The supinate ankle exercise and explanation is gem. There are other videos have talked about it, but never quite said why. Both the channel and Peter deserve more love and attention.
Wow, thanks a million. Yes, we all need more love and attention. Never get enough in this harsh world. But, thanks for the feedback and your good words on the content. Cheers, T
I just have a video in the making that builds on the movie line (modified ski version): so, you are trying to learn skiing from UA-cam.... which movie?
The seated exercise with the supination was EXTRAORDINARILY effective for me. It finally clarified PMTS’ Phantom Move for me and I finally experienced what it means for turn initiation to happen immediately and rapidly, truly like falling. The assumption not touched upon in the video is that you must be in a forward athletic position to “pirouette downwards” off the balls of the outside foot to start the turn. Otherwise a centered or back balance limits the inside knee drive toward center and blocks the body from following. As far as the other exercises go …tying my ankles together was a bit of a hot mess of tip lead and splay as I tried to remain standing, but it was also amazing for teaching me to get forward for turn initiation through edging. It really makes it very uncomfortable to turn by pivoting, so pretty much forces you to turn by tilting your skis on edge together. The effect is very similar to one-ski skiing, in fact. In contrast, tying my knees together gave me an extraordinary feeling of the inside knee pulling the outside knee into the turn. You instantly know you’re not A-framing when you feel that pull. I have clips of myself (shot downwards at my skis) skiing with my ankles vs knees tied - and practicing the inside knee “drive” with supinated foot - but even without the video the feelings are plainly revolutionary for this countered, A-framing skier. Even Balance, Edge Symmetry, and Early Edging Carv scores jumped. Another amazing video, thank you!
Wow, thank you for watching the video and trying the drills. Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, tying the ankles together gives a strange sensation. Cheers, T
@@Anolaana The way CARV measures Edge Symmetry is whether the rate of edge angle change is the same between the feet. The rubber band at the knees almost guarantees the knees move together at the same rate, so for most skiers this will immediately show improvement on that metric. Whether or not this leads to the right sensations, though … you’ll have try and see!
Well done sir! I'm an old geezer that started skiing in the late 60's. I was obsessed, self taught early on, then progressed to teaching. You and I have a lot in common in our knowledge and understanding of ski technique and the importance of boot alignment. It's good to see you keeping the truth alive. And this video is a great tool. To those watching, believe this video. Triggerboy is real!
I Tom. I tried your method in 2023 and for me to overcome 30+ years of A frame, I found starting in an extreme toiley seat position was the trick. The biggest advantage for me now skiing this way was the huge reduction in knee pressure/pain in addition to ït's so much easier"! Thanks Heaps.
This is a great compilation of the history of A-frame and of drills to deal with the issue. I have used all with some Masters racers except the band at the ankles and found they help, not only to establish parallel shins, but also to improve general stance, flexing and carving. Thanks Tom for your work on this and for posting.
I want you to know that I watched this video this morning, went out on the slopes, and fixed my A frame in one day. The inside ski toe tip helped a ton. I have a video from yesterday and today. I went from having all a frame to all parallel shins.
Just curious, once you fixed it did your carves get a lot deeper? ..or you just felt more control at similar speeds and edge angles without getting much deeper yet?
@@Triggerboy62 I will definitely be sending some videos your way in a few days. I'm a vacation skiier who really wants to carve deep. I'm currently doing 1 ski drills to increase my balance. Do you have any suggestions for drills? I am skiing Redster G9s at 183cm. I am 188cm and 160lbs
I have been race coaching a while now and have worked on this issue with many people in many ways. I love your approach here. What you describe is exactly the sensation I feel. Your solution is unique and I believe it will be effective with my athletes. By the way, when I was first starting out in 2008, you gave me a lot of really good feedback on my ski videos on Epic Ski. You were always kind and provided me good tips to work on. Thank you for your continued contributions to the ski industry!
Wow, thank you for watching and thank you for all your nice words. Epic Ski was the s**t back then. I loved it. But that is also where I learned a lot and after it was terminated I have tried to continue on the same path here on UA-cam. Glad I was of assistance and that your memories are positive. There was a lot of arguing and controversary but I always thought of it as entertainment. Much like reality TV is at the moment. I even made a video about Epic Ski. Do you remember? Tried to look for it but could not find it so I made a new upload. Here, enjoy: ua-cam.com/video/e0es_k-dOv0/v-deo.html Cheers, T
Great insight, especially into the subtle movement of the ankles inside the boot, pronation, supination and internal + external rotation, which I think are key to how all joints above will align. Will definitely give this a try!
Thank you so much for this amazing video and such great tips! I am a ski instructor myself but as l started skiing still under the ‘old school’ before carving, l had many issues perfecting my carving and for long time couldn’t find the reason why. I believe it was precisely because of the A-frame, provoked specifically by the old school mantra that outside ski is the one that all the weight should be on so that you’d even ski easily only on that ski. This led to inactive inside leg, making the inside ski always being ‘behind the action’ and adding the A-frame. Your perfect explanation as well as the drills should make any skier advance in the right direction much easier and quicker. Thank you again and keep enjoying!
We had a similar method. However, my instructor emphasis on making sure every action is from ground up so instead of focus on the thigh and knee action, he asked me to think about rolling inside foot outwards by lifting the big toe side, and the knee action will naturally follow. That works too.
I personally think that the "kinetic chain" method works better in tennis where you start the movement at your feet from the ground up to eventually slap the ball with your racket. That can take a second or two for example. In the case of carving if you start the movement at your feet the target outcome is instant and it leave out the entire rest of your body. In contrast to tennis where you use your whole body for the outcome. So to say that every action is from the ground up is misleading. IMHO. But I did mention that you should start the turn by tipping the inside ski first in combination with flexing it in order to incline into the turn to build edge angles. That can be interpreted to mean "action starts at the ankle". Just in my opinion just a component that means nothing if you don't get the big picture sorted out first. Cheers, Tom
Thanks, it is actually video #3. I didn't want to complicate things but the original video you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/9S_0sfGTXEI/v-deo.htmlsi=epTI5VovshRSe_Hm
Perfect explanation.. thanks so much.. i cant do it maybe due to unchangeable old school habits.. plus sore and worn knees and hips due to lots of bumps and ski ballet trainings and competitions.. a clip you show was kind of ballet with long skiis.. loved it.. so free.. and A frame is used a lot to generate forces and rotation with inside ski and leg.. maybe thats why i use it.. but very effective.. conductive explosive skiiding .. tips pointing downhill like in bumps.. it seems lo injure less my joints.. as a whole block is conected.. no loose joints.. 50 force to each leg.. max 60.. find carving too passive.. dangerous as is duffiicult to change direction to avoid a sudden skier.. anti intuitive.. the ski does it for you.. and dangerous for legs .. too much anti natural streching of muscles.. and in case of fall or crash.. too risky.. what you think for my case..
I think i developed a self defense mechanism.. a style that protects joints.. skiing since i was 10.. 15 years competing freestyle.. podiums in ballet.. and im 58 with no operations.. a bit of pain after skiing.. normal after 48 years skiing.. lots of bike.. im afraid of carving.. too much preassure on one leg.. up to 90.. ufff.. that would worsen my little injuries in knees and back.. dont you think? 50 to each leg seems healthier.. how do you see my point.. ?
Fantastic! Thanks for watching and putting them to use. The sooner juniors start working on drills like this the better they will shape up later on. However, with younger kids the most important thing is to keep the spirit up. T
For me, one of the biggest points was changing from the default insoles to elevated sidas insoles. Now i should work on the disbalance between my inner and outer leg muscles.
Great point. Good boots are highly underrated. Also, good boot fitters are hard to find. Or a salesman that actually cares to put you into the best fit for comfort and performance. If the boot guy does not know how you ski then its going to be a random miss or hit situation. I also have custom insoles that was carefully crafted to my needs. Custom insoles are often a sales trick to get a sale but when done correctly they are essential. You need to experiment, thats all I can say. There are no rules. I use Atomic Redster liners with all the boots I ski with. The most famous is the Dalbello Scorpion 130, whish Dalbello would sponsor me with a pair, in which I used the Atomic liner. Those boots, I had several pairs, where so heavily modified that I cant even remember everything that was done to them. Actually, I should make a video about them. Now Im back to an Atomic Redster 150 pair from 2012 I think. And, the custom footbeds/insoles.
Tom - You're still knocking it out of the park (ski area??). Haven't checked any of your posts for awhile and this one is excellent! We've got to move more of the thinking away from the "old school", which you do in a non threatening and educational way and then present some "new school" approaches to skiing. Views, words, and of course: music, you hit it all. Keep up your work, you are inspiring all us coaches trying to "move the thinking". thanks, Crawford
Very good video! A framing was always an issue to me. I am going to the alps middle of march and i guess i have some ideas for training now. Thanks for sharing!
Might have been asked an mentioned before, but anyway: in my humble opinion, big part of the A-Frame ist cuff misalignment. I ski in AT boots, so no alignment/cant rivets. With nothing done, my slight bow legged femurs tip the skis on the outside edges, making A-framing a must to gain any outside edge purchase an not get too much inside ski edge pressure. I use DIY altered custom footbeds and hard foam layers on the inner outside of the liners to correct for this, as much as I need to have shins parallel or skis flat, while not interfering with biomechanics too much. I will still try your drills though! Great videos. Thanks!
Great point. It highlights the fact that there are exceptions in every rule and using independent thinking in independent situations is still a good thing.
I feel this application applies to flat groomed snow only. Remember staying supple in mixed terrain may require a completely different stance. That is perhaps the beauty of skiing. Terrain and conditions are always changing and so should I if I want to be effective. There are a to of videos about carving talking about stance on flat manicured snow. Here in Utah most days those conditions can be limited. Remember if it feels clean and fluid your more than likely on the right track.
Great video! My personal experience and knowledge confirm everything that is said in this video. I tried rubber bands on my knees but it didn't help. 100% loading of the outer leg + tipping + pushing the inner leg back helped. It was very scary to be left without support inside the turn. I realized that my shins were parallel only when I realized that it was impossible to lean on the inclined foot of my inside leg in a turn if the outside ski fell off.
This is an amazing video as usual. I start ski again after 20 years but I skied from 3 old to my 20 (I'm now 40). I'm back to slope 3 years ago watching your videos and have been amazing how all my old style ski disapears quicky by following your simple and concrete drill. I could carving and enjoy this sport as never before. The most important outcome here for me is the internal feet position that should be strangly tipping on the opposite of the turn to better have the supination we want ?
Yes, it is very counter intuitive. The tips of your feet, your toes, should be pointing towards the outside of the turn. At the same time you supinate your inside foot. Cheers, T
This might upset a few people. IMHO. A-frame isn’t always a problem. It’s still a useful technique in the right circumstances. The A-frame examples on this video are a bit different from old school a frame you might see Tomba or Stenmark use. Some of the turns he is showing with a knee driven into the uphill boot are old school a-frame. I’m glad he mentions it at about 8:20.
Totally agree! Not to complicate things the whole idea with this video topic is to rid a-frame for the ones that want to. And need to. But there are as you so rightly point out also a function for it. We are at the moment racing FIS GS and it seems to be very common on lower inclined turns for example when they ski in a tuck. Because their setup is made for hips on the snow on ice. And it is really no difference if there is a-frame or not in a race as long as you ski fast and all the way through the course. Thanks for you input here. Cheers, T
Great video as usual! The best for me and my brain worked as Thinking that I needed to twist my inside feet so it's on my pinky toe and my shins automatically parallel. All other drills didn't work as well.
Great to hear. Yes, you need to figure out what works for you. When we coach we need to approach everyone individually. And try what works. Thats whey one to one coaching is so powerful. Especially with video. Cheers, T
Excellent explanation of the roots, the problem, and the solution. BTW, I have noticed that my skiing is best when keeping a closer stance, like the video suggests, unless at very high speeds, despite the preachings of a wider stance these days.
Я борюсь с этим A-frame узким ведением лыж. Таковое теперь считается ошибкой, но я приверженец старой школы и на "узких лыжах" чувствую себя увереннее. На крутых склонах, конечно, так или иначе лыжи сами "идут шире", но и A-frame становится незаметнее.
It is highly individual. Wide stance vs close stance. A-frame vs parallel shins. And your boot setup and the snow conditions affect your skiing also. Cheers, Tom
I want to practice this in Alpe D'Huez later this month (if there is any snow left). I've always tended to be rather scared of applying edge pressure on the inside ski though as I worry it will bring me crashing down. As is I tend to almost totally unweight the inside ski and put all of my weight on the outside ski. I am unsure how I make the transition, but guess I must transfer weight at some point. I'm not aware of maintaining an A-frame, but will be trying very hard to get stacked, apply dorsiflexion, get over on that inside ski outside edge, and keep my shins parallel to each other. It's a lot, but I am committed to sorting it out this season (if there's snow!). Thanks for the video, it's great.
Hopefully you will find snow and a good gentle long slope to practice on. Remember to do the drills. Usually when we go skiing, just like when we grab a guitar, we tend to just strum chords we know and noodle away on known patterns and riffs instead of committing to playing scales and challenge ourselves with stuff we do not master yet. So take some own time and practice the A-frame drill and any other you like. Check out my 14 drills for skiracers video for ideas. Cheers, Tom
Great video, thanks! A-frame is my famous mistake:) When doing the drills I also try to notice that I don't have pressure on the inside leg heel. Maybe that's personal. Also it's easy to do the same on the inline skates, you see faster if you were incorrect. p.s. Drill 2 - feel that you're a snowboarder and never do it again:)
Great tip. Inline skating used to be a very popular off season training thing but for some reason that has dropped out. Yes, instant feedback. I think you are doing it right. The inside ski pressure should be on the ball of your foot. Not the heel. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 btw I spent couple of weeks in Espoo last august. It was so impressive that you can find the hill for skating exercises almost everywhere. Very unusual:)
Could you make an episode that talks more about boot fitting? In this video, when you pointed the cuff rivets and talked about boot alignment, I guess you meant the cuff alignment? Have you come across the situation where cuff alignment through rivet is not enough and sole canting was needed through milling the boots' bottom? Thank you for the great video!!!
Great ide. I have had a boot video on the task list for many years now. Kind of like an off season job as when its winter we ski ski and ski but turns out, every time winter is over and done with, the last thing you want to be messing around with are more ski videos. Anyway, I'm not an expert when it comes to boot fitting but can from own experience and from talking to industry experts say that a neutral boot is not a bad option. I cant my boots 0,5deg to the outside and then adjust at the cuffs back in to put the boot back into neutral position. This gives me a slightly more prone stance for A-framing as the boot is back to neutral but on hard icy surface it allows for bigger edge angles before it "bites". Especially in GS but also in SL where speeds are now faster and off set is bigger. This is something I was learned by a WC boot fitter that wanted to put my foot into a slightly inverted position inside the boot since my foot works most efficiently slightly inverted. I basically have a perfect footprint so no need for bone structure defects. Two years ago I found out that my skiing had shifted into requiring less aggressive gear from the canting perspective. My latest Atomic boot has no shimming at the base. Its just so uncomfortable that Im back in a 2012 boot. Cheers, Tom
Thank U Thank U, can I put some dots.... passing the proceeding to the infinite Thank U! Currently working on my next ISIA level (4) and oh boy, just back from the glacier where I worked on reducing large of my stance, cant wait to practice these drills, super thanks, greeting from SUISSE
I think that the main cause of A frame is an intro rotation of the hips at the beginning of the turn, I agree on the speech of the inside knee that must go towards the inside of the turn but if the hips are rotated in the wrong direction this will not solve the problem, a trick to solve this problem is that you have to pull your new inside foot back at the beginning of the turn and introrotating it, What you have to feel is a dorsi flex foot given by the tibialis and the active femoral muscle of the inner leg
Great analysis. I have had a video on the topic of ankles and legs in general on the task list for a long time but never really found a good story to build it around. The pull back is important but not very clear to understand. IMO it is more about creating pressure on the boot cuff as when you flex your inside leg the pulling back gets confusing. Dorsiflexing the ankle again works better. Even if your stiff racing boot does not flex if you do not put weight on it. Something you cannot do in a deeply inclined turn with your knee pulled up under your chin. What do you think? Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 I think of the movement of pulling the inside foot back and up only in the first phase of the turn, just after edge switch in squat position with parallel ski, this movement prevents a turn start with hip counter rotated and closes the inside ankle, the dorsiflex helps me to feel the tension in the same, there is also a supination in the inside foot, this helps the inside knee to drive inside the turn parallel to outisde . I always try to have my torso nice and erect even with the inner knee very bent.
Hi. Where do you teach? Fo you organize camps? Thank you for all your inputs and the.video is a blessing for all who struggle to shift from A to parralel ski position.
Hi, thanks for watching. Yes we are starting up with camps this year. Please email me at tdk.skiracing(a)gmail.com. Please put your YT username in the mail so I know it is you.
I learned how to ski in the mid 70's and they always taught us to face our upper body down the hill at all times. I washed your video on COUNTERING and am looking forward to trying it on the hill. It would seemed to me that the pole plant would naturally twist my upper body so that it would be facing away from the turn. Then I would just hold that position through the turn and gradually square up to my skis through the traverse. Does that sound good?
Sounds great. You basically have 2 options: - squaring up at the transition, think GS turns or longer turns that take you across the hill for some time - "holding on to your counter" through out the transition where you then start the new turn in a "anticipated" position. You square up at apex. This is typical for shorter turns. So yes, you can do what you suggested but it is situational. Not universal. Cheers, T
Yes, its called stepping onto your Little Toe Edge of your inside ski. You flex to release. Outside leg flexion OLF, outside leg release OLR. Many names.
@@Triggerboy62 wouldn't be easier to say that then all the verbal salad(confusing to some) that go spent 15min yammering on about when you could be connecting this move to others.
Hi, end of part 2 you discussed about boot sole canting setup. I have a low volume foot which need basically a plug boot for a snug fit and I'm just in the middle of testing different options. My understanding is that plug boot i.e atomic st/sti or lange/rossi z plugs have 1 degree sole canting towards outside from the factory. This may be a bit aggressive for recreational carving skier in typical finnish groomer snow conditions would you think? Would you suggest 0 degree sole canting by default for recreational skier with one pair of boots and play with cuff alignment depending your personal preference or anatomy? Regards from Laajis & Riihivuori slopes
Hi, greetings to re-opened Riihivuori. You have come to the perfect conclusion. I would leave the boots at 0deg and put the thin shim under the lugs to protect your boots from wearing. This way later if you want you can always shim the bases to lets say 0,5deg and use the thicker shims. Thats what I did last year even if I came to the conclusion that I wanted to stay at 0deg. Then, compensate at the cuff if you need to. Im now back at a very old pair of Redster that I used 10 years ago because of comfort. They were canted 0,5 out but I compensated at the cuff, basically all the range available and the boots ski perfectly well. For softer conditions you can get away with more canting but if you ski on water injected snow then neutral is way better. Reg Tom
Hi Tom and thanks for your input. As 0.5°-1.0° out sole canting setting is not what I need so I should prepare to have the boot sole canted back to 0.0°. I have discussed about need to set boot sole canted to back to 0.0° with one bootfitter in my hometown and potential boot seller from capital but they didn't give any help.. actually didn't seem to even recognize the issue except sole grinding to ISO specs.. Have you used a service somewhere to shim bases to exact degree you like? I would be happy if you could give a tip on such a bootfitter.
Great video and great indepths about mechanics!! I've been looking for a good boot fitter in Finland. Any chances for you to give a sophisticated recommendation on where to find one? :) Mby a video for this topic or just pm. It would be greatly appreciated if you could do this.
Tom....I'm coming to Finland for a lesson. (I wish). Do you think a 1 degree base edge and 88 degrees side angle is ok? I'm not racing but I do enjoy fairly agressive carving.
You are always welcome. We tune all our skis to 87 just to keep it simple but planning to try 86 as soon as we get back to our home base were we can test it properly. When I tune regular skis I tune them to 88 because they are usually tuned to 88 and I don't want to waste time tuning them to 87. Also, when I get skis that are tuned to 88 at a shop where they put them through an automatic machine then my 88 might not match. And it gets worse if we talk about 87. The same goes for the base bevel. I want to have 0,5 on all our skis but I have no ide what comes from factory or what the shop produces when they grind the bases which we do always a couple of times a year. I basically tell them to make the base bevel as small as possible and then leave the side walls for manual tuning which I do myself. I dont know if you got any good info out of my reply here but Im basically saying that shop tuned skis are a gamble. That is the beef here. If its 88 or 87 does not matter much as long as they are sharp. In icy conditions we tune each night. Racing skis we use one or two runs. Then we need to tune them again. The base bevel should be as low as possible and 1 deg is probably fine. As long as its not 2 deg. The shop really needs to be a good one. Here is a big secret if you have read this far. We have a new tool. It is a Vola Mini Blade Ceramique. This thing is sooooooooo good it totally changed the way we tune our skis. Or actually we do not need to tune our skis that often. It is expensive, 150e, but its really handy. We now can have razer sharp edges by just fine tuning them every night for like 1 min per ski, when not racing, instead of taking them to the garage and working on them for an hour. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 Thanks so much for the detailed response!! My shop uses a very large machine so it should be consistent, if not super accurate. I will check out the Vola. Thanks again. Also, I learned how to ski in the 80s and they always taught us to face our upper body down the hill at all times. I washed your video on COUNTERING and am looking forward to trying it on the hill. It would seemed to me that the pole plant would naturally twist my upper body so that it would be facing away from the turn. Then I would just hold that position through the turn and gradually square up to my skis through the traverse. Does that sound good?
Here is a link to what we use at the moment: www.muziker.co.uk/pure-2-improve-body-shaper-bands-men-set-of-3 We like the yellow for the color that stands out and the medium flex which makes it a bit more forgiving. 30cm is minimum.
Wonderful video, you've truly reached new heights ... er, *depths* of understanding with this effort! I can't wait to try out the band exercise. Hope it's OK to mention ... here's how Peter's "invention" of the knee band has been used to build awareness in multiple dimensions: ua-cam.com/video/jSJR4sqR8pU/v-deo.htmlm1s
Yes, that was not Peters invention per say as resistance bands have been used for a variety of reasons and sports in the most obscure situations but I'm pretty sure that Peter pulled that one blank out of his head. It was back in 2018. I have been using resistance bands for a long time, I initially was introduced to them in skiing from the German federation and from Ted Ligety. Cheers, T
When I was younger in the 70s and the 80s there used to be lots more moguls than today. The modern grooming machinery and the industry supporting masses of poor skiers and at the same time supplying the perfect carving conditions for skiers like me and many others that depend on hard flat wide open groomers to arc carved turns on and paint rail road tracks all over the slopes have indeed changed the landscape in the opposite direction from mogul skiing. Still, in StAnton for example where I have skied a lot, almost every flat groomer in the morning has changed into a battle field of moguls and intermediate skiers littering the slopes. Which I like because I am also a total mogul addict. But to your original question, most of this footage was shot in Levi. Great ski resort for carving. They also have a mogul run.
@@Triggerboy62 I just adapt depending on the terrain. Skis at a wider platform means you really can't a-frame and shouldn't in tough conditions and difficult terrain. But on easier stuff, it just happens.
Unfortunately, all SKIING looks the same now because of the shape of the skis. There is no personal style pole plants have gone away, replaced by soaring eagle… it’s all very boring to watch now although tracking is fun, it’s not something new.. everyone might as well be the same doll earthtone ski outfits as well. Oh they are….zzzzzzzzz Not everyone wants to be a ski racer or look like one great video it just looks like the same the same the same …JMHO
I partly agree with you. The coolest skiing on the mountain back in the good old days was mogul skiing. Lots of different types of styles and outfits. I miss that also. Fast forwards to 2024. Could be that most skiers look the same and fashion works wonders with everyone wearing the same outfits. Now it back to black IMO. I remember when the park rats came and everyone had the same baggy pants and identically bent ski poles and ski stoppers pointing towards the moon. Anyway, we try to look past all that and concentrate on skiing well, teaching people to ski and coach ski racers. And race ourselves. Our money goes into equipment and trawling. Expensive as it is. Cheers, T
This video doesn’t do justice how helpful this is. Definitely one of the best lessons on youtube!
Wow, thanks!
Simply the Best ski video in a long time. The supinate ankle exercise and explanation is gem. There are other videos have talked about it, but never quite said why.
Both the channel and Peter deserve more love and attention.
Wow, thanks a million. Yes, we all need more love and attention. Never get enough in this harsh world. But, thanks for the feedback and your good words on the content. Cheers, T
Major thing I have found out about skiing, it works like a charm on youtube.
I just have a video in the making that builds on the movie line (modified ski version): so, you are trying to learn skiing from UA-cam.... which movie?
The seated exercise with the supination was EXTRAORDINARILY effective for me.
It finally clarified PMTS’ Phantom Move for me and I finally experienced what it means for turn initiation to happen immediately and rapidly, truly like falling.
The assumption not touched upon in the video is that you must be in a forward athletic position to “pirouette downwards” off the balls of the outside foot to start the turn.
Otherwise a centered or back balance limits the inside knee drive toward center and blocks the body from following.
As far as the other exercises go …tying my ankles together was a bit of a hot mess of tip lead and splay as I tried to remain standing, but it was also amazing for teaching me to get forward for turn initiation through edging. It really makes it very uncomfortable to turn by pivoting, so pretty much forces you to turn by tilting your skis on edge together.
The effect is very similar to one-ski skiing, in fact.
In contrast, tying my knees together gave me an extraordinary feeling of the inside knee pulling the outside knee into the turn. You instantly know you’re not A-framing when you feel that pull.
I have clips of myself (shot downwards at my skis) skiing with my ankles vs knees tied - and practicing the inside knee “drive” with supinated foot - but even without the video the feelings are plainly revolutionary for this countered, A-framing skier.
Even Balance, Edge Symmetry, and Early Edging Carv scores jumped.
Another amazing video, thank you!
Wow, thank you for watching the video and trying the drills. Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, tying the ankles together gives a strange sensation. Cheers, T
I was curious about the link to the term of "Edge Symmetry" too, thanks for relating that to the concept as TDK explained it!
@@Anolaana The way CARV measures Edge Symmetry is whether the rate of edge angle change is the same between the feet.
The rubber band at the knees almost guarantees the knees move together at the same rate, so for most skiers this will immediately show improvement on that metric.
Whether or not this leads to the right sensations, though … you’ll have try and see!
This is by far one of your best lessons- thanks a million for preparing this video and keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Well done sir! I'm an old geezer that started skiing in the late 60's. I was obsessed, self taught early on, then progressed to teaching. You and I have a lot in common in our knowledge and understanding of ski technique and the importance of boot alignment. It's good to see you keeping the truth alive. And this video is a great tool. To those watching, believe this video. Triggerboy is real!
I Tom. I tried your method in 2023 and for me to overcome 30+ years of A frame, I found starting in an extreme toiley seat position was the trick. The biggest advantage for me now skiing this way was the huge reduction in knee pressure/pain in addition to ït's so much easier"! Thanks Heaps.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Great! T
This is gold, man!
Love how you root your clips in physics and biodynamics and offer a very concise and precise explanation and direction.
Much appreciated! Trying to cut through to the core. Cheers, T
This is a great compilation of the history of A-frame and of drills to deal with the issue. I have used all with some Masters racers except the band at the ankles and found they help, not only to establish parallel shins, but also to improve general stance, flexing and carving. Thanks Tom for your work on this and for posting.
Wow, thanks for such great feedback. Thanks for watching and continue your good work. Cheers, Tom
I want you to know that I watched this video this morning, went out on the slopes, and fixed my A frame in one day. The inside ski toe tip helped a ton. I have a video from yesterday and today. I went from having all a frame to all parallel shins.
Wow! That is awesome! If you want me to look at the clips email me tdk.skiracing(a)gmail.com
Just curious, once you fixed it did your carves get a lot deeper? ..or you just felt more control at similar speeds and edge angles without getting much deeper yet?
@@jasonr8464 I felt a little more control, carving didn't get deeper though.
@@Triggerboy62 I will definitely be sending some videos your way in a few days. I'm a vacation skiier who really wants to carve deep. I'm currently doing 1 ski drills to increase my balance. Do you have any suggestions for drills? I am skiing Redster G9s at 183cm. I am 188cm and 160lbs
I have been race coaching a while now and have worked on this issue with many people in many ways. I love your approach here. What you describe is exactly the sensation I feel. Your solution is unique and I believe it will be effective with my athletes. By the way, when I was first starting out in 2008, you gave me a lot of really good feedback on my ski videos on Epic Ski. You were always kind and provided me good tips to work on. Thank you for your continued contributions to the ski industry!
Wow, thank you for watching and thank you for all your nice words. Epic Ski was the s**t back then. I loved it. But that is also where I learned a lot and after it was terminated I have tried to continue on the same path here on UA-cam. Glad I was of assistance and that your memories are positive. There was a lot of arguing and controversary but I always thought of it as entertainment. Much like reality TV is at the moment. I even made a video about Epic Ski. Do you remember? Tried to look for it but could not find it so I made a new upload. Here, enjoy: ua-cam.com/video/e0es_k-dOv0/v-deo.html
Cheers, T
Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
Thanks, and thank you for watching. Cheers, Tom
Great insight, especially into the subtle movement of the ankles inside the boot, pronation, supination and internal + external rotation, which I think are key to how all joints above will align. Will definitely give this a try!
Much appreciated!
Thanks for tips. A-frame is my biggest problem but this video very helped me. We watch your every video. Grettings from Poland, Tomek & Hubert.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching. Cheers, T
Awesome Video! Wow this A-Frame is my current battleground!!! You just saved my skiing instructor exams!!! Thanks a lot!!!
Great, hopefully you passed :)
Lovely! Incredible quality content video. Thanks
Much appreciated!
Une des meilleures vidéos sur le perfectionnement du carving que j'ai eu l'occasion de voir !
Merci beaucoup, on espère en avoir encore 😊
Wow, thank you very much for such good feedback and thank you also for watching. Cheers, Tom
Great and understandable way of teaching ski drills. Thank you.
Thank you for watching. Cheers, Tom
Thank you so much for this amazing video and such great tips!
I am a ski instructor myself but as l started skiing still under the ‘old school’ before carving, l had many issues perfecting my carving and for long time couldn’t find the reason why. I believe it was precisely because of the A-frame, provoked specifically by the old school mantra that outside ski is the one that all the weight should be on so that you’d even ski easily only on that ski. This led to inactive inside leg, making the inside ski always being ‘behind the action’ and adding the A-frame.
Your perfect explanation as well as the drills should make any skier advance in the right direction much easier and quicker.
Thank you again and keep enjoying!
Thank you for watching. I also learned in the old days. Cheers, T
Great video supported by a fitting story with fantastic cohesion. Perfect for learning! Well done!
Many thanks!
This is your best work yet, Tom. Well done.
Thanks a million. Cheers, T
Thanks Tom for a great video. Super helpful and has made me drop much of my A-frame! keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
We had a similar method. However, my instructor emphasis on making sure every action is from ground up so instead of focus on the thigh and knee action, he asked me to think about rolling inside foot outwards by lifting the big toe side, and the knee action will naturally follow. That works too.
I personally think that the "kinetic chain" method works better in tennis where you start the movement at your feet from the ground up to eventually slap the ball with your racket. That can take a second or two for example. In the case of carving if you start the movement at your feet the target outcome is instant and it leave out the entire rest of your body. In contrast to tennis where you use your whole body for the outcome. So to say that every action is from the ground up is misleading. IMHO. But I did mention that you should start the turn by tipping the inside ski first in combination with flexing it in order to incline into the turn to build edge angles. That can be interpreted to mean "action starts at the ankle". Just in my opinion just a component that means nothing if you don't get the big picture sorted out first. Cheers, Tom
@@Triggerboy62 I play tennis as well, I understand your idea perfectly. Thanks!
Tom, following your advise I bought Atomic FIS SL in 165. These ski are FIRE!!!🔥 🎉
Have fun with them. What is your height? I bought S9 160cm and i'm 175cm
This is so very helpful! Tusen tack Tom precis rätt - bra förklaring och praktiska övningar.
Tack för att du tittade på videon och roligt att den kom till nytta. H. Tom
GREAT new version of this video. It is way more complete, detailed and clear compared to version 1!
Thanks, it is actually video #3. I didn't want to complicate things but the original video you can see here: ua-cam.com/video/9S_0sfGTXEI/v-deo.htmlsi=epTI5VovshRSe_Hm
Perfect explanation.. thanks so much.. i cant do it maybe due to unchangeable old school habits.. plus sore and worn knees and hips due to lots of bumps and ski ballet trainings and competitions.. a clip you show was kind of ballet with long skiis.. loved it.. so free.. and A frame is used a lot to generate forces and rotation with inside ski and leg.. maybe thats why i use it.. but very effective.. conductive explosive skiiding .. tips pointing downhill like in bumps.. it seems lo injure less my joints.. as a whole block is conected.. no loose joints.. 50 force to each leg.. max 60.. find carving too passive.. dangerous as is duffiicult to change direction to avoid a sudden skier.. anti intuitive.. the ski does it for you.. and dangerous for legs .. too much anti natural streching of muscles.. and in case of fall or crash.. too risky.. what you think for my case..
I think i developed a self defense mechanism.. a style that protects joints.. skiing since i was 10.. 15 years competing freestyle.. podiums in ballet.. and im 58 with no operations.. a bit of pain after skiing.. normal after 48 years skiing.. lots of bike.. im afraid of carving.. too much preassure on one leg.. up to 90.. ufff.. that would worsen my little injuries in knees and back.. dont you think? 50 to each leg seems healthier.. how do you see my point.. ?
Tom, this is transformational stuff! I had my juniors doing these drills last night.
Fantastic! Thanks for watching and putting them to use. The sooner juniors start working on drills like this the better they will shape up later on. However, with younger kids the most important thing is to keep the spirit up. T
Yes, of course. Thank you.@@Triggerboy62
For me, one of the biggest points was changing from the default insoles to elevated sidas insoles.
Now i should work on the disbalance between my inner and outer leg muscles.
Great point. Good boots are highly underrated. Also, good boot fitters are hard to find. Or a salesman that actually cares to put you into the best fit for comfort and performance. If the boot guy does not know how you ski then its going to be a random miss or hit situation. I also have custom insoles that was carefully crafted to my needs. Custom insoles are often a sales trick to get a sale but when done correctly they are essential. You need to experiment, thats all I can say. There are no rules. I use Atomic Redster liners with all the boots I ski with. The most famous is the Dalbello Scorpion 130, whish Dalbello would sponsor me with a pair, in which I used the Atomic liner. Those boots, I had several pairs, where so heavily modified that I cant even remember everything that was done to them. Actually, I should make a video about them. Now Im back to an Atomic Redster 150 pair from 2012 I think. And, the custom footbeds/insoles.
Always great instruction ! Thank' a lot Tom !
Thanks and thanks for watching. T
Tom - You're still knocking it out of the park (ski area??). Haven't checked any of your posts for awhile and this one is excellent! We've got to move more of the thinking away from the "old school", which you do in a non threatening and educational way and then present some "new school" approaches to skiing. Views, words, and of course: music, you hit it all. Keep up your work, you are inspiring all us coaches trying to "move the thinking". thanks, Crawford
Wow, thanks! What great feedback. I will do my best to share my knowledge and also newly gained knowledge from out on the mountain. Cheers, Tom
Best teacher ever. Thank you
Wow, thank you!
Very good video! A framing was always an issue to me. I am going to the alps middle of march and i guess i have some ideas for training now. Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure. Note that you can send me video of your skiing and I will comment: tdk.skiracing(a)gmail.com
very insightful esp. about the wise observation of mono ski. will try to imagine that when skiing even not feasible to use bands.
Wise decision. The band can be a bit difficult for many reasons. But by closing your stance you can mimic it closely.
Might have been asked an mentioned before, but anyway: in my humble opinion, big part of the A-Frame ist cuff misalignment. I ski in AT boots, so no alignment/cant rivets. With nothing done, my slight bow legged femurs tip the skis on the outside edges, making A-framing a must to gain any outside edge purchase an not get too much inside ski edge pressure. I use DIY altered custom footbeds and hard foam layers on the inner outside of the liners to correct for this, as much as I need to have shins parallel or skis flat, while not interfering with biomechanics too much. I will still try your drills though! Great videos. Thanks!
Good to hear that you are experimenting with shims and footbeds. There are no rules here. Cheers, T
Great point. It highlights the fact that there are exceptions in every rule and using independent thinking in independent situations is still a good thing.
I feel this application applies to flat groomed snow only. Remember staying supple in mixed terrain may require a completely different stance. That is perhaps the beauty of skiing. Terrain and conditions are always changing and so should I if I want to be effective. There are a to of videos about carving talking about stance on flat manicured snow. Here in Utah most days those conditions can be limited. Remember if it feels clean and fluid your more than likely on the right track.
Great video! My personal experience and knowledge confirm everything that is said in this video. I tried rubber bands on my knees but it didn't help. 100% loading of the outer leg + tipping + pushing the inner leg back helped. It was very scary to be left without support inside the turn. I realized that my shins were parallel only when I realized that it was impossible to lean on the inclined foot of my inside leg in a turn if the outside ski fell off.
Thanks for sharing. Good analysis. Cheers, T
This is an amazing video as usual. I start ski again after 20 years but I skied from 3 old to my 20 (I'm now 40). I'm back to slope 3 years ago watching your videos and have been amazing how all my old style ski disapears quicky by following your simple and concrete drill. I could carving and enjoy this sport as never before. The most important outcome here for me is the internal feet position that should be strangly tipping on the opposite of the turn to better have the supination we want ?
Yes, it is very counter intuitive. The tips of your feet, your toes, should be pointing towards the outside of the turn. At the same time you supinate your inside foot. Cheers, T
Tom..I've been a subscriber for a long time. Always love your content and wait in anticipation.
Awesome! Thank you!
Same
This might upset a few people. IMHO. A-frame isn’t always a problem. It’s still a useful technique in the right circumstances. The A-frame examples on this video are a bit different from old school a frame you might see Tomba or Stenmark use. Some of the turns he is showing with a knee driven into the uphill boot are old school a-frame. I’m glad he mentions it at about 8:20.
Totally agree! Not to complicate things the whole idea with this video topic is to rid a-frame for the ones that want to. And need to. But there are as you so rightly point out also a function for it. We are at the moment racing FIS GS and it seems to be very common on lower inclined turns for example when they ski in a tuck. Because their setup is made for hips on the snow on ice. And it is really no difference if there is a-frame or not in a race as long as you ski fast and all the way through the course. Thanks for you input here. Cheers, T
Amazing. Great quality content video. Superb!!! THANKS
Hi, thanks for watching. Tom
Thank you. I will definitely try it.
Please do!
thumbs up !
seen nobody cover that. great video !
Thanks!
Amazing explanation ❤
Glad you think so!
This is just what I need. Thank you!
You are welcome :)
Hi Tom, I told one of my friends, whose name is also Peter and who you know in person, to say respect to you about this video next time he meets you 😁
Great video as usual! The best for me and my brain worked as Thinking that I needed to twist my inside feet so it's on my pinky toe and my shins automatically parallel. All other drills didn't work as well.
Great to hear. Yes, you need to figure out what works for you. When we coach we need to approach everyone individually. And try what works. Thats whey one to one coaching is so powerful. Especially with video. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62
Yes, 100% with you on this approach.
Excellent explanation of the roots, the problem, and the solution. BTW, I have noticed that my skiing is best when keeping a closer stance, like the video suggests, unless at very high speeds, despite the preachings of a wider stance these days.
Stance width is individual and also situational but fact is that most skiers benefit from a more narrow stance.
Nailed it, Tom. Thanks.
No, thank YOU for watching :)
Я борюсь с этим A-frame узким ведением лыж. Таковое теперь считается ошибкой, но я приверженец старой школы и на "узких лыжах" чувствую себя увереннее. На крутых склонах, конечно, так или иначе лыжи сами "идут шире", но и A-frame становится незаметнее.
It is highly individual. Wide stance vs close stance. A-frame vs parallel shins. And your boot setup and the snow conditions affect your skiing also. Cheers, Tom
A Framer for LIFE!!
Thanks for watching and dont give up. Try to use the info to move forward with your skiing. Cheers, T
Simply perfect
Thanks! T
I want to practice this in Alpe D'Huez later this month (if there is any snow left). I've always tended to be rather scared of applying edge pressure on the inside ski though as I worry it will bring me crashing down. As is I tend to almost totally unweight the inside ski and put all of my weight on the outside ski. I am unsure how I make the transition, but guess I must transfer weight at some point. I'm not aware of maintaining an A-frame, but will be trying very hard to get stacked, apply dorsiflexion, get over on that inside ski outside edge, and keep my shins parallel to each other. It's a lot, but I am committed to sorting it out this season (if there's snow!). Thanks for the video, it's great.
Hopefully you will find snow and a good gentle long slope to practice on. Remember to do the drills. Usually when we go skiing, just like when we grab a guitar, we tend to just strum chords we know and noodle away on known patterns and riffs instead of committing to playing scales and challenge ourselves with stuff we do not master yet. So take some own time and practice the A-frame drill and any other you like. Check out my 14 drills for skiracers video for ideas. Cheers, Tom
Thank yo so much for responding@@Triggerboy62 , that's very kind of you. Kind regards, Nigel
Great video, thank you!
My pleasure!
Great video as always
Thanks, T
Great video, thanks! A-frame is my famous mistake:)
When doing the drills I also try to notice that I don't have pressure on the inside leg heel. Maybe that's personal. Also it's easy to do the same on the inline skates, you see faster if you were incorrect.
p.s. Drill 2 - feel that you're a snowboarder and never do it again:)
Great tip. Inline skating used to be a very popular off season training thing but for some reason that has dropped out. Yes, instant feedback. I think you are doing it right. The inside ski pressure should be on the ball of your foot. Not the heel. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 btw I spent couple of weeks in Espoo last august. It was so impressive that you can find the hill for skating exercises almost everywhere. Very unusual:)
Could you make an episode that talks more about boot fitting? In this video, when you pointed the cuff rivets and talked about boot alignment, I guess you meant the cuff alignment? Have you come across the situation where cuff alignment through rivet is not enough and sole canting was needed through milling the boots' bottom? Thank you for the great video!!!
Great ide. I have had a boot video on the task list for many years now. Kind of like an off season job as when its winter we ski ski and ski but turns out, every time winter is over and done with, the last thing you want to be messing around with are more ski videos. Anyway, I'm not an expert when it comes to boot fitting but can from own experience and from talking to industry experts say that a neutral boot is not a bad option. I cant my boots 0,5deg to the outside and then adjust at the cuffs back in to put the boot back into neutral position. This gives me a slightly more prone stance for A-framing as the boot is back to neutral but on hard icy surface it allows for bigger edge angles before it "bites". Especially in GS but also in SL where speeds are now faster and off set is bigger. This is something I was learned by a WC boot fitter that wanted to put my foot into a slightly inverted position inside the boot since my foot works most efficiently slightly inverted. I basically have a perfect footprint so no need for bone structure defects. Two years ago I found out that my skiing had shifted into requiring less aggressive gear from the canting perspective. My latest Atomic boot has no shimming at the base. Its just so uncomfortable that Im back in a 2012 boot. Cheers, Tom
great video. thank you
You are welcome!
Always usefull info!
Glad to hear it!
Do you see parallel shins when looking at Odermatt?
From the top of my hat I would say yes, but I will check and back to you. Cheers, T
Great stuff!
Thanks!
Thank U Thank U, can I put some dots.... passing the proceeding to the infinite Thank U! Currently working on my next ISIA level (4) and oh boy, just back from the glacier where I worked on reducing large of my stance, cant wait to practice these drills, super thanks, greeting from SUISSE
Wow, an honor to have a soon to become a ISIA L4 instructor on the channel. Thank you for watching and good luck passing your exams. Cheers, Tom
YES!
Thanks, Tom
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Большое спасибо, очень полезное видео 👍
Thank you for watching. Cheers, T
So helpful
So glad!
I think that the main cause of A frame is an intro rotation of the hips at the beginning of the turn, I agree on the speech of the inside knee that must go towards the inside of the turn but if the hips are rotated in the wrong direction this will not solve the problem, a trick to solve this problem is that you have to pull your new inside foot back at the beginning of the turn and introrotating it, What you have to feel is a dorsi flex foot given by the tibialis and the active femoral muscle of the inner leg
Great analysis. I have had a video on the topic of ankles and legs in general on the task list for a long time but never really found a good story to build it around. The pull back is important but not very clear to understand. IMO it is more about creating pressure on the boot cuff as when you flex your inside leg the pulling back gets confusing. Dorsiflexing the ankle again works better. Even if your stiff racing boot does not flex if you do not put weight on it. Something you cannot do in a deeply inclined turn with your knee pulled up under your chin. What do you think? Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 I think of the movement of pulling the inside foot back and up only in the first phase of the turn, just after edge switch in squat position with parallel ski, this movement prevents a turn start with hip counter rotated and closes the inside ankle, the dorsiflex helps me to feel the tension in the same, there is also a supination in the inside foot, this helps the inside knee to drive inside the turn parallel to outisde . I always try to have my torso nice and erect even with the inner knee very bent.
Did you get your boots aligned after tis video ??
Are you referring to Peter? And after this video now in 2024?
great
Thanks for watching :)
Thumbs down for making me sad winter is over. J/K! 😉
That is too bad, but looking at the bright side, winter will be here again sooner that we think. Now, lets enjoy summer. Cheers, T
Superb video, very clear, thank you so much Tom. BTW is the guy on the monoski wearing a Montreal Canadiens jersey?
Not sure, I think it is a HIFK (Finland) jersey. I can try to find out.
That would make more sense! Although the Canadiens have certainly had some Finns over the years
Hi. Where do you teach? Fo you organize camps? Thank you for all your inputs and the.video is a blessing for all who struggle to shift from A to parralel ski position.
Hi, thanks for watching. Yes we are starting up with camps this year. Please email me at tdk.skiracing(a)gmail.com. Please put your YT username in the mail so I know it is you.
I had an instructor tell me to concentrate on pushing down with the little toe of my inside ski. Does that make sense?
Yes. Just do not forget to invert your ankle as you do that. You had a good instructor. Cheers, T
I learned how to ski in the mid 70's and they always taught us to face our upper body down the hill at all times. I washed your video on COUNTERING and am looking forward to trying it on the hill. It would seemed to me that the pole plant would naturally twist my upper body so that it would be facing away from the turn. Then I would just hold that position through the turn and gradually square up to my skis through the traverse. Does that sound good?
Sounds great. You basically have 2 options:
- squaring up at the transition, think GS turns or longer turns that take you across the hill for some time
- "holding on to your counter" through out the transition where you then start the new turn in a "anticipated" position. You square up at apex. This is typical for shorter turns.
So yes, you can do what you suggested but it is situational. Not universal.
Cheers, T
So, is it basically what you're saying is step over onto the outside edge of the ski.
Yes, its called stepping onto your Little Toe Edge of your inside ski. You flex to release. Outside leg flexion OLF, outside leg release OLR. Many names.
@@Triggerboy62 wouldn't be easier to say that then all the verbal salad(confusing to some) that go spent 15min yammering on about when you could be connecting this move to others.
Hi, end of part 2 you discussed about boot sole canting setup. I have a low volume foot which need basically a plug boot for a snug fit and I'm just in the middle of testing different options. My understanding is that plug boot i.e atomic st/sti or lange/rossi z plugs have 1 degree sole canting towards outside from the factory. This may be a bit aggressive for recreational carving skier in typical finnish groomer snow conditions would you think? Would you suggest 0 degree sole canting by default for recreational skier with one pair of boots and play with cuff alignment depending your personal preference or anatomy? Regards from Laajis & Riihivuori slopes
Hi, greetings to re-opened Riihivuori. You have come to the perfect conclusion. I would leave the boots at 0deg and put the thin shim under the lugs to protect your boots from wearing. This way later if you want you can always shim the bases to lets say 0,5deg and use the thicker shims. Thats what I did last year even if I came to the conclusion that I wanted to stay at 0deg. Then, compensate at the cuff if you need to. Im now back at a very old pair of Redster that I used 10 years ago because of comfort. They were canted 0,5 out but I compensated at the cuff, basically all the range available and the boots ski perfectly well. For softer conditions you can get away with more canting but if you ski on water injected snow then neutral is way better. Reg Tom
Hi Tom and thanks for your input. As 0.5°-1.0° out sole canting setting is not what I need so I should prepare to have the boot sole canted back to 0.0°.
I have discussed about need to set boot sole canted to back to 0.0° with one bootfitter in my hometown and potential boot seller from capital but they didn't give any help.. actually didn't seem to even recognize the issue except sole grinding to ISO specs..
Have you used a service somewhere to shim bases to exact degree you like? I would be happy if you could give a tip on such a bootfitter.
Great video and great indepths about mechanics!! I've been looking for a good boot fitter in Finland. Any chances for you to give a sophisticated recommendation on where to find one? :) Mby a video for this topic or just pm. It would be greatly appreciated if you could do this.
Hi, I'm using Ski-Service in Helsinki. Can recommend. Cheers, Tom
IRONY: when video showed skiing with knees bound together you said the word "Safety"
Want more irony? Sometimes its safer to have your knees bound together ;)
Tom....I'm coming to Finland for a lesson. (I wish). Do you think a 1 degree base edge and 88 degrees side angle is ok? I'm not racing but I do enjoy fairly agressive carving.
You are always welcome. We tune all our skis to 87 just to keep it simple but planning to try 86 as soon as we get back to our home base were we can test it properly. When I tune regular skis I tune them to 88 because they are usually tuned to 88 and I don't want to waste time tuning them to 87. Also, when I get skis that are tuned to 88 at a shop where they put them through an automatic machine then my 88 might not match. And it gets worse if we talk about 87. The same goes for the base bevel. I want to have 0,5 on all our skis but I have no ide what comes from factory or what the shop produces when they grind the bases which we do always a couple of times a year. I basically tell them to make the base bevel as small as possible and then leave the side walls for manual tuning which I do myself. I dont know if you got any good info out of my reply here but Im basically saying that shop tuned skis are a gamble. That is the beef here. If its 88 or 87 does not matter much as long as they are sharp. In icy conditions we tune each night. Racing skis we use one or two runs. Then we need to tune them again. The base bevel should be as low as possible and 1 deg is probably fine. As long as its not 2 deg. The shop really needs to be a good one. Here is a big secret if you have read this far. We have a new tool. It is a Vola Mini Blade Ceramique. This thing is sooooooooo good it totally changed the way we tune our skis. Or actually we do not need to tune our skis that often. It is expensive, 150e, but its really handy. We now can have razer sharp edges by just fine tuning them every night for like 1 min per ski, when not racing, instead of taking them to the garage and working on them for an hour. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 Thanks so much for the detailed response!! My shop uses a very large machine so it should be consistent, if not super accurate. I will check out the Vola. Thanks again. Also, I learned how to ski in the 80s and they always taught us to face our upper body down the hill at all times. I washed your video on COUNTERING and am looking forward to trying it on the hill. It would seemed to me that the pole plant would naturally twist my upper body so that it would be facing away from the turn. Then I would just hold that position through the turn and gradually square up to my skis through the traverse. Does that sound good?
Thanks I would do your drills.
Go for it!
❤
So it's all about countersteering
Actually yes, glad you picked up on it. Did you watch my "Short turns mystified" video?
What type of booty band should we get? Do you have a link?
Here is a link to what we use at the moment:
www.muziker.co.uk/pure-2-improve-body-shaper-bands-men-set-of-3
We like the yellow for the color that stands out and the medium flex which makes it a bit more forgiving. 30cm is minimum.
I don't need other channels to improve my skiing!!! thank you sir for your tips...cant wait to tryi it out!!!! :) it's literally the BIBLE :)
Great to hear! You are too kind. If you have any questions, please ask. Cheers, Tom
A-frame works best when speeds exceed 50mph. Trust me....
Hopefully most people do not ski over 50mph.
Wonderful video, you've truly reached new heights ... er, *depths* of understanding with this effort! I can't wait to try out the band exercise.
Hope it's OK to mention ... here's how Peter's "invention" of the knee band has been used to build awareness in multiple dimensions:
ua-cam.com/video/jSJR4sqR8pU/v-deo.htmlm1s
Yes, that was not Peters invention per say as resistance bands have been used for a variety of reasons and sports in the most obscure situations but I'm pretty sure that Peter pulled that one blank out of his head. It was back in 2018. I have been using resistance bands for a long time, I initially was introduced to them in skiing from the German federation and from Ted Ligety. Cheers, T
Is that you Harald?
No
Where to find this kind of flat slopes? now all moguls. 😇
When I was younger in the 70s and the 80s there used to be lots more moguls than today. The modern grooming machinery and the industry supporting masses of poor skiers and at the same time supplying the perfect carving conditions for skiers like me and many others that depend on hard flat wide open groomers to arc carved turns on and paint rail road tracks all over the slopes have indeed changed the landscape in the opposite direction from mogul skiing. Still, in StAnton for example where I have skied a lot, almost every flat groomer in the morning has changed into a battle field of moguls and intermediate skiers littering the slopes. Which I like because I am also a total mogul addict. But to your original question, most of this footage was shot in Levi. Great ski resort for carving. They also have a mogul run.
Women a-frame because of the structure of the hips. Most all women have this issue, but I don't consider it a problem.
This is true. And yes, it is not a problem. Boot fitter can deal with this easily. T
@@Triggerboy62 I just adapt depending on the terrain. Skis at a wider platform means you really can't a-frame and shouldn't in tough conditions and difficult terrain. But on easier stuff, it just happens.
Unfortunately, all SKIING looks the same now because of the shape of the skis. There is no personal style pole plants have gone away, replaced by soaring eagle… it’s all very boring to watch now although tracking is fun, it’s not something new.. everyone might as well be the same doll earthtone ski outfits as well. Oh they are….zzzzzzzzz
Not everyone wants to be a ski racer or look like one great video it just looks like the same the same the same …JMHO
I partly agree with you. The coolest skiing on the mountain back in the good old days was mogul skiing. Lots of different types of styles and outfits. I miss that also. Fast forwards to 2024. Could be that most skiers look the same and fashion works wonders with everyone wearing the same outfits. Now it back to black IMO. I remember when the park rats came and everyone had the same baggy pants and identically bent ski poles and ski stoppers pointing towards the moon. Anyway, we try to look past all that and concentrate on skiing well, teaching people to ski and coach ski racers. And race ourselves. Our money goes into equipment and trawling. Expensive as it is. Cheers, T
@@Triggerboy62 TRUE TRUE…
Bring back DESCENTE, Roffe, CB, Vuarnet & Rotomats⚡️✨👌❄️
Playback speed x1.1
Thanks for watching. T
Thanks great video. Cool 👍👍 and training is extremely simple with still frames and sketches⛷️🤝
Thanks, T
All good suggestion.
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic tuition here. Thanks
Glad you liked it!