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Fuck yeah. Knew there were Sardaukar. Dune: Encyclopedia says that the First emperor was of the Sardau, the proto- tribesmen of ancient Salusa Secondus and delivered the victory at the Battle of Corrin. Seems fitting. Glory to Burseg, unifier of the ancient tribes of Salusa Secondus!
Maybe he is a Butlerian who is aware that the Sisterhood still uses computers for their breeding records. The Butlerians were not wiped out in the Great Schools of Dune series. They were just subdued.
He could even be a Butlerian Mentat. Bred, trained, enhanced to surpass machine intelligence. Superhuman information processing and calculation would sure as hell look like a special power.
"Only I can tell you the truth..." from Desmond Hart, then "this endangers everything, there are secrets that we've gone to great lengths to keep" from the Sisterhood...my guess is that he is the first person to have developed Truth Sense. This could make him both a huge threat to the Sisterhood and a primary target for their breeding program.
It would be interesting if he is the reason the sisterhood decides to keep all their powers secret. Maybe they realize it's easier to avoid backlash and have influence if they aren't feared.
I wonder if perhaps, given the trailer's vague suggestion that Fimmel's character may have some form of prescience, if he in his power was the one to give the Sisterhood the notion of the Kwisatz Haderach even as he is hoping to destroy them. Perhaps his character is the genesis of there ultimate plan. If so, they would then seek to secure his bloodline as part of their breeding program.
A little into the video I thought he might have slight prescient abilities and could be a mentat as well. A formidable individual, especially if he also has combat training.
he's either a failed QH, or they're going to throw a wrench into Canon and he'll be an early QH. Or I also like what an earlier poster said that he's a machine or he's got ties to the machines
@@SolidSnake-cn7mo have to say, I hope they don’t go that route… an actual QH showing up right off the bat just feels off when producing Paul took 10k years of galaxy wide efforts by the BG.
I really hope so, I adore the Villeneuve films but they sadly had to cut back on the Mentats, which is unfortunate. Hopefully the show can give them more screen time.
Between the two Herberts, we get only a glimpse of other warrior cultures and the world's that spawn them. All the same, the general setting is still the dominant factor in how all those books turned out to be classics.
I'd like to see a character like Desmond Hart be a long forgotten relative of those who became the Titans or those who served them back during the Butlerian Jihad. His views are based on a long standing need for revenge against the Sorceresses of Rossak. If they are going to explore the earlier generations who become the key families in the later story of Dune, they need to tie these families back to the origin stories as well.
Were they Sardaukar or Guild?? I wasn't sure myself. He could have been raised similar to how Paul was. A BG mother who actually loved her son and maybe fell out of favor with the the BG hierarchy. I'm thrilled they are going for something totally new instead of recycling existing characters like Star Ways.
Travia Fimmel has one major flaw as an actor though. He won't do nude scenes. It is outrageous. We must appeal to the Bene Gesserit so they correct this abomination. How could humanity survive otherwise?
im thinking he could be Tleilaxu, didn't they and the Bene Gesserit have some sorta great feud at some point, he could be one of their Kwisatz Haderach experiments (kinda like what they did to Duncan Idaho only not a Ghola)
If i understand it correctly, the zensunni wanders inhabited Sardu, then were forced off planet. But not all of them were allowed to leave. Thus the Sardukar are cousins to the desert tribes of Arrakis.
Pretty much. The ZenSunni wanderers were deported to and from several planets - Poritrin, Salusa Secundus and Arrakis being among them. Don't fuck with the Amazigh of North Africa seems to be the overall message.
The only problem I have with DUNE is the length of time covered by Vendetta, especially among royal houses who have to be pragmatic to survive. The length of time covered is hard to fathom when you consider it's 3 times longer than current recorded human history and we don't remember 90 percent of what we've currently done, we're still having to dig up that info.
Oooooh. That’s a great bug of a thought. A remnant, surviving titan of machine mind. Perhaps of Ixian and/or Theliax influence. A precursor to gholas even. A fantastic suggestion.
He seems to have survived a potentially fatal injury, but could he be one of the first gholas, created at a time when they still had artificial/mechanical eyes?
Mentats are not imune to the voice, as showed when Jessica use it in Twufir. I don’t think Mentat. I was in NYCC and is still very mysterious. But I think is related to the Saudukhar!
Travis Fimmel is great in everything. Too bad they cancelled Raised by Wolves. Was an interesting sci fi show, even if it was a bit all over the place.
I am ever cautious as I like Travis as an actor, but I can't guarantee anything about this show on the things I've seen so far. He was the only thing convincing about Warcraft. He has really brought his A game to all the stuff I've seen him in. But his presence isn't an indicator that this will be a great or even a good show. The delivery could end up being rushed or potentially too slow. Also, this is Brians domain. While Frank wrote the lore here, he was loose about it at the time and tightened up as things dragged out. After his death, his son really let Anderson loose on the universe and it shows when you read Anderson's work in the Star Wars Book EU. The Butlerian Jihad was a lot different in Franks view and so the aftermath would naturally have a separate aesthetic to the one portrayed in Brain and Kevin's work. Another thing to consider is that Frank *intended* to leave whole parts of his version of the history in darkness, even after the Jihad. This is where a lot of Warhammer fans had a crossing interest, because despite being a massive universe with so many novels, the Warhammer lore is chalk full of writing gaps, purposefully placed events that leave even the writers saying, "no one knows what even happened during these 2000-7000 or so years." This is common in Warhammer, multiple "eras of darkness" before m40, 41, and 42. Same thing with Frank. Frank had times he wanted to make an idea a part of the lore but couldn't have possibly written out all the events in fine detail like Martin does with GOT and FAB. So, he made them ambiguous as to what *exactly* happened so that the reader can think up their own ideas, or opinions about the events. It's just become a part of good planting in writing, sometimes something is better left in darkness so that it can be used later or left to another writer for another day/project. Sometimes it's integral to a story that something be left unsaid or unconfirmed. I appreciate all your coverage! Pretty sure I'm still one of your sword masters... lol. I guess the TL:DR is there are still things I want to see in the previews before I breathe a sigh of relief. It airs near my birthday so I'm praying to be surprised. A lot of shows are a swing and a miss, what with LoTR:RoP being disconnected, lore destroying, teenage literary nightmare fuel. I sincerely hope that Tolkien Scholar gets his tenure pulled and he gets stuck teaching creative writing 101 into retirement. He cost people years of their lives only to say the dumbest thing a "lore/canon" subject teacher could say. ONLY ABOUT 3 WEEKS TO WAIT!!!
The idea of a lone man going to war against the Bene Gesserit and their infernal machinations is an extremely cool one, and unfortunately completely wasted on a prequel where nothing he does will change anything in the "present" of the setting.
There is something strange about his righr eye. There are many eyes in the dreams... could he be a gola with telechinesis habilities...or could he be using nanotechnology to kill? Not sure about the mentat theory... maybe he is a cyborg of some kind...?
Let me steel man the Bene Tleilax possibility. We don't know a ton, but we do know from the OG books is that they become an isolated planet, very mysterious. What's set out clearly though is that the BG and the BT hate each other fundamentally. In the later books we get key insight into why. Maybe he's part of a BT ploy and maybe this is part of the reason the BT go genetic crazy town. Tleilaxu are such a loose cannon in that world. Creating synthetic spice? Gholas? That's bold. They are like the China of the Duniverse only with way more Wuhan. I would love that. Diving into Sardaukar lore is always good too though.
The most recent trailer was more interesting for sure especially if we getting like a witch hunter. Herbert Jnr and Anderson suck so as little as possible involvement 😂
Sardaukar is a strong possibility. I think that Mentat is not as strong, as they didn't seem to be religious fanatics. Maybe another possibility is a Swordmaster of the Ginaz. They were equally skilled/dangerous as Sardaukar and Fremen. I don't think they've been described as religious fanatics, but maybe more so than Mentat. I dunno, I just don't get Mentat vibes from him.
Turns out he was right, if he had succeeded in stopping the witches, there never would’ve been Paul and there never would have been the galaxy wide genocide he caused later in the series
I would guess Mentat training more than Tleilaxu eyes. Probably physical training as broad as the Bene Gesserit, if not as deep. i don't think he's a failed Kwisatz Haderach -- doesn't the Sisterhood have a decent idea of _when_ that could be brought out? ...and the show storyline is 10,000 years prior to the original Dune story. [edit] Maybe he's an accidental Kwisatz before the Bene Gesserit have a clear idea of what that can mean. It seems that in this timeframe ten millennia before Shaddam IV, the Bene Gesserit are not plugged into the Great Houses and Corrino throne as advisors, wives, daughters, and concubines (assuming the show sticks to basic canon). IMO they'd have to be woven into that fabric to plan for _an_ _heir_ thousands of years in their future. Maybe he was practice? First pancake off the grill (you toss those out BTW)?
Is that Ragnar? Nice. It's been some time since I read Sisterhood but I remember it's barely after the Battle of Corrin and the main character just discovered accessing genetic memories through poisoning, I highly doubt they'd have a failed result from the KwisHad breeding program already. The OG series is like 10,000 years later and the Lady Jessica was supposed to have a daughter that was supposed to breed with a Harkonnen to produce the final culmination of the breeding program. This show is set like 100 years after Corrin. Maybe he survived a poison attempt to replicate the process of genetic memories in a male? But based on what info you've given in this video, I'd guess this guy is a zealot from the Orange Catholic faith. I remember there were elements about the failures(?) in the faith in the events of the Battle of Corrin mentioned in the series by Brian Herbert. If we put some elements of real history into it, you can posit that this is the OC Church faith advisor for the newly minted House Corrino. Probably had some prior bad experience that makes him like a Witchfinder General for the Emporer, developing what becomes the Sardaukar. The BG have to earn their slur somehow. I think there's supposed to be an event that results in the BG becoming the faith advisors for the emporer, could be this story? Either way, we can only give him proto-cognitive abilities at this time because the Great Schools of Dune trilogy barely introduced the concepts of the lore into the prequels story at this time.
I sure wish they game more accurate Dune universe year vice 10000 before the movie so generic so is it 191? Looks like the show takes place right after or during the Butlerian Jihad since the developer Norma Cenva invented a scrambler to disrupt the thinking machines as well as the Hollztmen engine around the same time period. I have max and will be watching and 10000 yrs for the Sardaukar to evolve is easy to believe
Having seen the first episode, here's my thoughts: probably not his fault, but I see too much Ragnar in this new character. Basically the same acting (but that's probably what they wanted of him). And he looks (and is kinda named) as a Duncan Idaho replacement. So far... meh. But we'll see.
If this takes place 30 years after the movies the Emperor is Leto II Atreides, son of Paul. if they tamper with that at all i will not watch this show.
The BG were always the silliest, overpowered part of Dune. They would have been uncovered and wiped out by any competent emperor with mentants and sardaukar at this disposal - Shadam ended up sending his daughter to be converted into their scheme and betray him.
Sounds like the producers are throwing out the 'anti-machine' conflict from the books and replacing it with an 'anti-Sisterhood' concept. If so, then this would be a Dune-inspired series rather than something canonical.
As long as the Sardaukar are not the NEUTERED version we saw in Dune Part 2. Why Villeneuve chose that route I'll never understand. I can no longer un-see that in Part 2.
They were nerfed in the movie, yes, but they also had an embarrassing defeat in the novel. It mentions that some Sardaukar were killed by fremen children. The final battle was also short in the novel. But they could have at least show some sardaukar killing fremen soldiers. I don’t remember seeing even one fremen dying in that scene.
@@Alptanis In the book (the SOURCE) the Sardaukar were past their prime but still considered the Emperors deadliest troops. The first movie was more accurate but also included a weird break from the book. The scene of the last stand by Atreides troops against the mass of Harkonnens on the steps (first movie) you see obviously superior Atreides troops against inferior Harkonnens. But not over the top superior. Then the Sardaukur drop in behind them and slaughter them without breaking a sweat. It should not have been that easy even for them. Ah well, at least these movies were made...
Miles Teg was very loyal to the Bene Gesserit and transferred his love for his mother Janet Roxborough to the sisterhood. Yes he was unorthodox and knew too much about them due to his heretic mother. I doubt Desmond Hart will be similar
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Fuck yeah. Knew there were Sardaukar. Dune: Encyclopedia says that the First emperor was of the Sardau, the proto- tribesmen of ancient Salusa Secondus and delivered the victory at the Battle of Corrin. Seems fitting. Glory to Burseg, unifier of the ancient tribes of Salusa Secondus!
Maybe he is a Butlerian who is aware that the Sisterhood still uses computers for their breeding records. The Butlerians were not wiped out in the Great Schools of Dune series. They were just subdued.
He could even be a Butlerian Mentat. Bred, trained, enhanced to surpass machine intelligence. Superhuman information processing and calculation would sure as hell look like a special power.
"Only I can tell you the truth..." from Desmond Hart, then "this endangers everything, there are secrets that we've gone to great lengths to keep" from the Sisterhood...my guess is that he is the first person to have developed Truth Sense. This could make him both a huge threat to the Sisterhood and a primary target for their breeding program.
It would be interesting if he is the reason the sisterhood decides to keep all their powers secret. Maybe they realize it's easier to avoid backlash and have influence if they aren't feared.
I like that Travis Flamel is playing Desmond Hart.
I wonder if perhaps, given the trailer's vague suggestion that Fimmel's character may have some form of prescience, if he in his power was the one to give the Sisterhood the notion of the Kwisatz Haderach even as he is hoping to destroy them. Perhaps his character is the genesis of there ultimate plan. If so, they would then seek to secure his bloodline as part of their breeding program.
I was wondering same thing
I'm excited for this show, and I love the choice of Travis for the show.
A little into the video I thought he might have slight prescient abilities and could be a mentat as well. A formidable individual, especially if he also has combat training.
he's either a failed QH, or they're going to throw a wrench into Canon and he'll be an early QH. Or I also like what an earlier poster said that he's a machine or he's got ties to the machines
Oooh…. Or, not a QH but with abilities fhat let the BB know one is a possibility.
@@archervine8064If he some how takes some pure spice in survives than I will be convinced that he is a early QH
I think he might be a leftover from the Butlerian zealots from the Navigator of Dune era
@@SolidSnake-cn7mo have to say, I hope they don’t go that route… an actual QH showing up right off the bat just feels off when producing Paul took 10k years of galaxy wide efforts by the BG.
My theory is Desmond hart is sort of twisted mentat working for the emperor
I really hope so, I adore the Villeneuve films but they sadly had to cut back on the Mentats, which is unfortunate. Hopefully the show can give them more screen time.
I think he is a face dancer, manipulating everyone.
@@Hellish-qx4eq possibly. But as said, we shall see how the story goes.
He has a weirding module. He can paralyze nerves, shatter bones set fires, suffocate an enemy or burst her organs.
Thanks Elaine
Ohhhhhh Im fan boiing as much as I did when I first saw the Dune 2 trailer!! I cannot wait...thanks Nerd!!!!
This guy makes every show 10% better.
he appeared to be swallowed by a worm, exposed to the spice of spice in the worms gut, pooped out with powers😂
Knew it. It’s why I was so strident on this point. Hope they delve into the Sardukar.
My primary question is what his ability is?
It seems he can toast ppl with his mind
No clue, but appreciate your well-educated guesses, Elaine.
Between the two Herberts, we get only a glimpse of other warrior cultures and the world's that spawn them.
All the same, the general setting is still the dominant factor in how all those books turned out to be classics.
Sisterhood of Dune , the book related to the series, is fantastic. I recommend reading Dune's prequels to understand it all.
Bene Tlielaxu
I think so.... possibly influenced by omnius or the remnants of titans
He is like Manford Taronto.
Thats exactly what i thought .
This looks like the sort of role that was written for Travis Fimmel
I'd like to see a character like Desmond Hart be a long forgotten relative of those who became the Titans or those who served them back during the Butlerian Jihad. His views are based on a long standing need for revenge against the Sorceresses of Rossak. If they are going to explore the earlier generations who become the key families in the later story of Dune, they need to tie these families back to the origin stories as well.
Manford torando, the anti tech guy from the prequels, he hates the bene gesserit because of them using computers.
Yes that is the most logical influence
Were they Sardaukar or Guild?? I wasn't sure myself. He could have been raised similar to how Paul was. A BG mother who actually loved her son and maybe fell out of favor with the the BG hierarchy.
I'm thrilled they are going for something totally new instead of recycling existing characters like Star Ways.
his eyes is not blue within blue, so he is not a spice addict
Really excited for this tv show !!!
Your theory of him being a failed Kwiaz is very intriguing, I like that
Travia Fimmel has one major flaw as an actor though. He won't do nude scenes. It is outrageous. We must appeal to the Bene Gesserit so they correct this abomination. How could humanity survive otherwise?
im thinking he could be Tleilaxu, didn't they and the Bene Gesserit have some sorta great feud at some point, he could be one of their Kwisatz Haderach experiments (kinda like what they did to Duncan Idaho only not a Ghola)
If i understand it correctly, the zensunni wanders inhabited Sardu, then were forced off planet. But not all of them were allowed to leave. Thus the Sardukar are cousins to the desert tribes of Arrakis.
Pretty much.
The ZenSunni wanderers were deported to and from several planets - Poritrin, Salusa Secundus and Arrakis being among them.
Don't fuck with the Amazigh of North Africa seems to be the overall message.
The only problem I have with DUNE is the length of time covered by Vendetta, especially among royal houses who have to be pragmatic to survive. The length of time covered is hard to fathom when you consider it's 3 times longer than current recorded human history and we don't remember 90 percent of what we've currently done, we're still having to dig up that info.
He is Erasmus
Oooooh. That’s a great bug of a thought. A remnant, surviving titan of machine mind. Perhaps of Ixian and/or Theliax influence. A precursor to gholas even. A fantastic suggestion.
He seems to have survived a potentially fatal injury, but could he be one of the first gholas, created at a time when they still had artificial/mechanical eyes?
The dude was living on Arrakis. He probably was exposed to a ton of spice and can see the future.
Just think of it like Travis’s character from raised by wolves blinked out of existence there an then blinked back into existence here 😂
Desmon Hart aka Dunecan Ragnahart
Im hoping early mentat or spacing guild!
Mentats are not imune to the voice, as showed when Jessica use it in Twufir. I don’t think Mentat. I was in NYCC and is still very mysterious. But I think is related to the Saudukhar!
Possibly Omnius or Erasmus from the later novels Brian Herbert wrote. Or one of their minions.
Just finished the first episode and my first thought is that he could be a puppet of Paul or Leto II manipulating the past to ensure the future.
way off
Travis Fimmel is great in everything.
Too bad they cancelled Raised by Wolves. Was an interesting sci fi show, even if it was a bit all over the place.
I am ever cautious as I like Travis as an actor, but I can't guarantee anything about this show on the things I've seen so far. He was the only thing convincing about Warcraft. He has really brought his A game to all the stuff I've seen him in. But his presence isn't an indicator that this will be a great or even a good show. The delivery could end up being rushed or potentially too slow. Also, this is Brians domain. While Frank wrote the lore here, he was loose about it at the time and tightened up as things dragged out.
After his death, his son really let Anderson loose on the universe and it shows when you read Anderson's work in the Star Wars Book EU. The Butlerian Jihad was a lot different in Franks view and so the aftermath would naturally have a separate aesthetic to the one portrayed in Brain and Kevin's work. Another thing to consider is that Frank *intended* to leave whole parts of his version of the history in darkness, even after the Jihad. This is where a lot of Warhammer fans had a crossing interest, because despite being a massive universe with so many novels, the Warhammer lore is chalk full of writing gaps, purposefully placed events that leave even the writers saying, "no one knows what even happened during these 2000-7000 or so years." This is common in Warhammer, multiple "eras of darkness" before m40, 41, and 42.
Same thing with Frank. Frank had times he wanted to make an idea a part of the lore but couldn't have possibly written out all the events in fine detail like Martin does with GOT and FAB. So, he made them ambiguous as to what *exactly* happened so that the reader can think up their own ideas, or opinions about the events. It's just become a part of good planting in writing, sometimes something is better left in darkness so that it can be used later or left to another writer for another day/project. Sometimes it's integral to a story that something be left unsaid or unconfirmed. I appreciate all your coverage! Pretty sure I'm still one of your sword masters... lol.
I guess the TL:DR is there are still things I want to see in the previews before I breathe a sigh of relief. It airs near my birthday so I'm praying to be surprised. A lot of shows are a swing and a miss, what with LoTR:RoP being disconnected, lore destroying, teenage literary nightmare fuel. I sincerely hope that Tolkien Scholar gets his tenure pulled and he gets stuck teaching creative writing 101 into retirement. He cost people years of their lives only to say the dumbest thing a "lore/canon" subject teacher could say.
ONLY ABOUT 3 WEEKS TO WAIT!!!
The harsh planet they come from makes them the ultimate solder
Desmond is a man with a plan and a canal. Panama.😊
The idea of a lone man going to war against the Bene Gesserit and their infernal machinations is an extremely cool one, and unfortunately completely wasted on a prequel where nothing he does will change anything in the "present" of the setting.
There is something strange about his righr eye. There are many eyes in the dreams... could he be a gola with telechinesis habilities...or could he be using nanotechnology to kill? Not sure about the mentat theory... maybe he is a cyborg of some kind...?
Was a first attempt a prequel to Paul
Let me steel man the Bene Tleilax possibility. We don't know a ton, but we do know from the OG books is that they become an isolated planet, very mysterious. What's set out clearly though is that the BG and the BT hate each other fundamentally. In the later books we get key insight into why. Maybe he's part of a BT ploy and maybe this is part of the reason the BT go genetic crazy town. Tleilaxu are such a loose cannon in that world. Creating synthetic spice? Gholas? That's bold. They are like the China of the Duniverse only with way more Wuhan. I would love that. Diving into Sardaukar lore is always good too though.
The most recent trailer was more interesting for sure especially if we getting like a witch hunter. Herbert Jnr and Anderson suck so as little as possible involvement 😂
Sardaukar is a strong possibility. I think that Mentat is not as strong, as they didn't seem to be religious fanatics. Maybe another possibility is a Swordmaster of the Ginaz. They were equally skilled/dangerous as Sardaukar and Fremen. I don't think they've been described as religious fanatics, but maybe more so than Mentat. I dunno, I just don't get Mentat vibes from him.
Omg travis fimmel has the potential to cary this whole series 🫡🫡🫡
The baddies name is Desmond?!
Turns out he was right, if he had succeeded in stopping the witches, there never would’ve been Paul and there never would have been the galaxy wide genocide he caused later in the series
This character could be really good, but also provide a little more exposition. I am very curious about him.
I would guess Mentat training more than Tleilaxu eyes. Probably physical training as broad as the Bene Gesserit, if not as deep. i don't think he's a failed Kwisatz Haderach -- doesn't the Sisterhood have a decent idea of _when_ that could be brought out? ...and the show storyline is 10,000 years prior to the original Dune story.
[edit]
Maybe he's an accidental Kwisatz before the Bene Gesserit have a clear idea of what that can mean. It seems that in this timeframe ten millennia before Shaddam IV, the Bene Gesserit are not plugged into the Great Houses and Corrino throne as advisors, wives, daughters, and concubines (assuming the show sticks to basic canon). IMO they'd have to be woven into that fabric to plan for _an_ _heir_ thousands of years in their future. Maybe he was practice? First pancake off the grill (you toss those out BTW)?
Travis Fimmel can only play one character: Ragnar Lothbrok. He was that in Raised by Wolves, Warcraft, That dirty Black Bag and now this.
He was a totally different character in the Australian “Boy Swallows Universe”.
I Hope this series is good but I am skeptical......
Maybe he a thinking machine
Face Dancer
You need read sisterhood of dune ...you would know the character... Fimmel is an amalgamation of.
Is that Ragnar? Nice. It's been some time since I read Sisterhood but I remember it's barely after the Battle of Corrin and the main character just discovered accessing genetic memories through poisoning, I highly doubt they'd have a failed result from the KwisHad breeding program already. The OG series is like 10,000 years later and the Lady Jessica was supposed to have a daughter that was supposed to breed with a Harkonnen to produce the final culmination of the breeding program. This show is set like 100 years after Corrin. Maybe he survived a poison attempt to replicate the process of genetic memories in a male?
But based on what info you've given in this video, I'd guess this guy is a zealot from the Orange Catholic faith. I remember there were elements about the failures(?) in the faith in the events of the Battle of Corrin mentioned in the series by Brian Herbert. If we put some elements of real history into it, you can posit that this is the OC Church faith advisor for the newly minted House Corrino. Probably had some prior bad experience that makes him like a Witchfinder General for the Emporer, developing what becomes the Sardaukar. The BG have to earn their slur somehow. I think there's supposed to be an event that results in the BG becoming the faith advisors for the emporer, could be this story? Either way, we can only give him proto-cognitive abilities at this time because the Great Schools of Dune trilogy barely introduced the concepts of the lore into the prequels story at this time.
In world of religious fanatics its easy to be prophet by saying - " is not going end well".
Teg?
Behind every great man there's a hungry woman 😅😮
I sure wish they game more accurate Dune universe year vice 10000 before the movie so generic so is it 191? Looks like the show takes place right after or during the Butlerian Jihad since the developer Norma Cenva invented a scrambler to disrupt the thinking machines as well as the Hollztmen engine around the same time period. I have max and will be watching and 10000 yrs for the Sardaukar to evolve is easy to believe
Having seen the first episode, here's my thoughts: probably not his fault, but I see too much Ragnar in this new character. Basically the same acting (but that's probably what they wanted of him). And he looks (and is kinda named) as a Duncan Idaho replacement. So far... meh. But we'll see.
What if he was an accidental abomination?
fuck yeah travis fimmel
I thought Desmond is fremen😂
Visions of the future???
I'm afraid they will try to make Bene Gesserit a "good guys/girls". I hope I'm wrong.
A Ghola or a Face Dancer?
If this takes place 30 years after the movies the Emperor is Leto II Atreides, son of Paul. if they tamper with that at all i will not watch this show.
Takes a Aussie😛
😂❤let me guess...women good....man bad...man violent...woman calm....lets see
He's a child killer😞😤 I dont like him
A Sardaukar/Mentat would be mind blowing! I really hope the senior executives are not Woke and don't stuff this up
Very glad they’re mostly not going by the traitor son and hack writer “expanded universe” garbage pile.
Don’t Game Of Thrones this!!!
The BG were always the silliest, overpowered part of Dune. They would have been uncovered and wiped out by any competent emperor with mentants and sardaukar at this disposal - Shadam ended up sending his daughter to be converted into their scheme and betray him.
Sounds like the producers are throwing out the 'anti-machine' conflict from the books and replacing it with an 'anti-Sisterhood' concept.
If so, then this would be a Dune-inspired series rather than something canonical.
As long as the Sardaukar are not the NEUTERED version we saw in Dune Part 2. Why Villeneuve chose that route I'll never understand. I can no longer un-see that in Part 2.
They were nerfed in the movie, yes, but they also had an embarrassing defeat in the novel. It mentions that some Sardaukar were killed by fremen children. The final battle was also short in the novel. But they could have at least show some sardaukar killing fremen soldiers. I don’t remember seeing even one fremen dying in that scene.
@@Alptanis In the book (the SOURCE) the Sardaukar were past their prime but still considered the Emperors deadliest troops. The first movie was more accurate but also included a weird break from the book. The scene of the last stand by Atreides troops against the mass of Harkonnens on the steps (first movie) you see obviously superior Atreides troops against inferior Harkonnens. But not over the top superior. Then the Sardaukur drop in behind them and slaughter them without breaking a sweat. It should not have been that easy even for them. Ah well, at least these movies were made...
Can’t wait to see the stunning and brave women of color defeat the bad white man villain😩
Miles Teg knock off / inspiration?
Miles Teg was very loyal to the Bene Gesserit and transferred his love for his mother Janet Roxborough to the sisterhood. Yes he was unorthodox and knew too much about them due to his heretic mother. I doubt Desmond Hart will be similar