Yet an honor it is. Javicco Corrino sees the big picture & the looming downfall. Establishing a position of power on Arrakis is the obvious move. Who, if not his son, should be chosen to lead the vanguard & claim Arrakis in the name of Empire? Trial by fire. Constantine will either perish or prevail.
It's wild we're living in a time where we're debating and theory crafting a live action TV show set in the Dune universe. The Dune saga becoming mainstream has some negatives but the positives outweigh the negatives. Dune Prophecy isn't perfect but I still want more.
My theory is that Desmond is the one who starts the fanatical Sardaukar legions. Since Desmond has an almost fanatical hatred for the Sisterhood, it would make sense that he creates an army to combat them. I know that the Sardaukar are from an era when Selusa Secundus is a post apocalyptic wasteland, but I could see them doing something like that for the character, the seeds have been planted with him gaining the rank of Bashar in the Corrino military.
I can see y'all's frustration (and feel it myself, to an extent), but I'm choosing to believe that the lack of respect given to the leadership of the Bene Gesserit is due to the sisterhood being in it's early stages, and that conditioning absolute obedience is something that developed over time
The Bene Gesserit is only in their infancy and the book(s) (three of them) this is based on has two clear factions. There is one faction prepared to do anything for their "breeding" program including the use of machines and one following a hard line Butlerian where they would see their own sisters killed for the use of what they consider heresy. There is murder and plots against one another just like you see in the show and the sisterhood is very much in danger. You basically got those that revere the reverend mother and those who very much question them as you see in the show.
When Desmond uses his "power" you can hear a very high pitched sound. Rewatch the Landsraad scene. It's some kind of technology, maybe an implant he isn't even aware of, but not a superpower. It clearly has a negative effect on his own body. But the story still needs to explain how he could kill Mother Kasha when she was many lightyears away on Wallach IX ... that's one weird part that doesn't make any sense if this is a weapon.
So they was created during or just after the jihad. There shouldn't be many if them as there a brand new thing to the universe. Maybe a hundred years or so they have been around in dune prophecy. Still that's enough time for us to see them. They should have to cooperate with the movie and tv show so they can link it properly.
It pissed me off that he was wearing the same uniform that he was wearing when he was shit out by the sandworm. Im glad they put him in new clothes, even if they're just a black version of them.
@johncathey310 I served 10 years in the army and I tell you that shit don't fly. He would never present himself before an emperor dressed in a beat up field uniform. Plus his hair and beard being so disheveled is way too unmilitary like. It's maddening for a military man like me to witness. Embarrassing
@@lordpauly301 agreed. I have an extended family member in Special Ops, and while yeah in the field he gets some latitude to grow a beard , etc once the mission’s over time for the spit shine.
Honestly, we have to give this episode to Mother Raquella, our girl still working for tge Sisterhood way past her expiration date. Also, the actress that plays Constantine's mother is so beautiful.
Has nobody noticed that Sister Jen does not have all those Gesserit superpowers? She can't see truth, and she can't handle the flame, and she is not subject to any visions. When she is tested to see truth, she evades the assignment with a joke. When she has to absorb the Bunsen burner, she distracts by complaining and challenging the assignment, and withdraws her hand. What's the deal with Jen? Who is she really working for?
It's the main mother (forgot her name) daughter I think. Even if she disnt know it it would make sense why she is allowed to be there while only really having the ability to lie. 😂
@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE If I ran the sisterhood, I would have those people in there too, who are not susceptible to all the juju mambo jambo. You know, people with common sense.
@SangsungMeansToCome there's also the possibility she has the null gene. So is immune to prescience. But I think she will be the mother superiors daughter.
For religion to attain its true power there needs to be people at the center that knows it all just smoke and mirrors. The most destructive to all religions are true believers with no realists to steer them.
Desmond must be a Ghola with enhancements for this disease spread. I think the little scrap of cloth he carries around is all that remains from his orignal body when the sand worm ate him. It had a bit of blood on it, and the Tlelaxu recreated him from that, then gave it to him as a souvenier of a sort. This Desmond is not her son, her son died on Arrakis 😢.
I think the scrap of fabric is from Tula’s robe/blanket he was abandoned in. It is all he has left of his mother who abandoned him to his life of danger & pain.
The scrap is proof that Mikayla the spice smuggler is a member of the Sisterhood, which ties Valya to the attempted assassination of the High Council at the Landsraad. Right before Desmond survived the explosion, he found Mikayla's Sisterhood robes.
An Atreides ancestor (Desmond Hart) helped make the Corrino military a superior power? Irony, oh, irony. Since he and Paul has the same parent pattern? Harkonnen mother and Atreides father, could that explain his prescience or any other special ability?
I think it explains why, 10,000 years later, the Bene Gesserit want to marry Atriedes/Harkonnen cousins. Remember, their original plan was for Jessica to have a girl(we can call Paulina, I guess) who would marry Feyd and give birth to the KH.
Yes he is a kwisaz sadurak. He just has no training so has no idea what is happening to him. He will he the reason the bene gesserit realise they can make one. But it needs to be able to be controlled. So they set out a 10,000 year plan to breed the control elements into the dna of harkonnens and atreides so they can finally unite harkonnen and atreides to make the new kwisak sadurak they can control. But Jessica does it 1 generation early making it so they can't control Paul. Plus there plan to help harkonnens to become the main power before producing the lisaz sadurak means rhey set Paul against them. A self fullfiling prophecy they created the thing that destroyed them.
Everything is splintered. The Corrino house, The Sisterhood, the sisters (Valya and Tula), father and daughter, husband and wife, teacher and student......
I don't remember which video of yours it was last week but I knew Desmond hart wS tula's son but I believe he is more specifically a Gola of the man . Hes a living weapon of the Bene Tleilax. They would have tech to identify his lineage and would have prehaps gotten his memories prior to his death, even arranged for his death on their timeline.
@@394qwerthe Proto-KH the tleilaxu made wouldn’t be a thing until Paul of Dune. And even then, in messiah, we learned that the proto-KH killed himself. Would Desmond be a ghola? He’s holding on to a scrap of fabric. Though if he was a ghola, there would be remnants the memories
The problem with Desmond and the force field scene is that force fields in the Dune universe are essentially kinetic devices, meaning all the heat of the explosion would still cook him inside the force field. You can say that he can't be cooked by hot air from a bomb after surviving the internal furnace of a sandworm (and I would be forced to agree), but then the question would be how did he survive the internal furnace of a sandworm in the first place.
I think of Desmond from LOST whenever I watch this, and that guy is Viking Ragnar Lothbrok who just also happened to be in the Raised by Wolves thing - watching all 3 in the same week is playing havoc with my brain. All are great series though.
It triggers me every time they call worms Shai-Hulud. I also thought them mentioning old earth was a bit weird. The books made it seem like most people without other memory did not know about earth.
@@LightningRaven42 if you read the Brian Herbert books which they are heavily taking from especially since they showed they machine wars and doing an interpretation of sisterhood of dune. during the butlarian jihad old earth was used and was homeland to most until omnius AI took over and made every human on old earth as slaves at that point that had traveled the stars and established different home planets but yet old earth was also mentioned by Paul in the book and talks about it with Duncan also in the original book it’s not taboo of people not knowing Leto the second talks about it a bit also in either children or heretics of dune.
My theory extends to the worm that swallowed Desmond. It almost seems likely that the worm had swallowed some thinking machine (worms pretty much swallow everything including sand crawlers, spice harvesters, etc.) That machine has the two blue dots and transmitted the virus to Desmond and replaced his right eye with a device that triggers the virus and burns whomever has been infected. Simplistic maybe but it makes sense to me. Desmond does not have super powers. And that scrap of cloth is likely a piece of his mother's (Tula's) robe or a piece of his own swaddling clothes that he clings to as a talisman of his own hatred.
The thinking machines didn’t exactly make to Arrakis if I remember correctly. Arrakis wouldn’t become the treasured wasteland until after the butlarian revolt
I believe the entity being referred to as backsliding into the past is clearly Omnius, or Erasmus (based on the backstory in the later books). They name check Omnius and his plagues from the Jihad.
In Dune the mother superior tells Jessica that a female child could have 'sealed the breach' between the two houses. Desmond could be the first inkling of the idea that these two blood lines are the key, but does it really take another 10,000 years?
Mohiam wasn’t the mother superior, just another reverend mother. But that was before the breach really happened. If it was about sealing the breach, Tula wouldn’t have done what she did
Dune is a chess game. I expect a checkmate to occur between the two factions within the sisterhood and the Harkonnen sisters. You neglected to mention the RNA retro virus used by Omnius as a weapon during the Butlerian Jihad. Last week the Empeeor referenced the Titans.
Definitely thought after the fire explosion, Desmond's face,like half of it would expose some android robotic face under the skin, so yeah, you're not alone there Quinn
Missed one thing: right before the explosion Desmond found a garment. I suspect that was the garment of the person replaced by the face-dancer. I'll have to go back and watch again to determine who that might be. First thoughts could be the princess or the swords master. Also, I suspect that Fremen Bene Gesserit will result in that splinter group of reverend mothers that took root on Arrakis. Also, that whistling that Desmond does I believe activates the virus.
1. I am a bit disappointed that Desmond's blood wasn't used as a virus to take over the Sisterhood's thinking machihe... yet. 2. So, I guess Desmond was consciously not ratting out his cousin?
@@robertfrost1683agreed. Hopefully it will be like when Twin Peaks S1 only got 8 episodes, then S2 got like 20 or something. Maybe Max wasn't sure how the series would be accepted, so they did some risk mitigation and only allowed basically a miniseries to cut costs
This episode definitely justifies the lengthy ep3 flashback. Knowing Tula's backstory with the Atreides puts a lot more weight into the origin of Desmond Hart. Regarding Theodosia: I imagine she will become a plant for *someone* significant in the imperium that Valya plans to kill off. Hart? A member of the imperial family? Hard to say. But that's my guess. The less exciting thing would be for Theodosia to just temporarily trick people for a few hours. But we'll see!
I like the actress that was chosen to play Sister Francesca. I just don’t understand why she has a Latin name when she is clearly Indian. The actress who plays Lila really stepped up. She is 100% a different personality after her resurrection. Between her acting and her hair being down I almost don’t recognize her as the Lila from the first two episodes.
I've always assumed that far in the future Earth based culture would be all mixed up and mostly invalid. Whereas the genetic traits might still be there things like cultural name conventions would be gone.
Technically, she isn’t Indian. Earth was destroyed during the butlarian revolt since it was the central planet of the machine empire. But I would imagine cultures crossing over the years would have these kinds of effects, and plus we have to keeping in mind how humans adapted to their planets.
Hey Quinn, thanks for your channel! I love the takes and dives you do in Dune. I am a little frustrated with Dune Prophecy. I feel like the entire season has been set up for later seasons. That's all well and good but season one needs to have more of a contained story arc.
Why do people like the empress keep talking about Shai-Hulud? She’s not Fremen! She shouldn’t worship the worms as divine beings. The Fremen don’t even exist yet at this time!
It completely takes me out of the show when they name drop Shai-Hulud or when she said “Arrakis was created to train the faithful”. It’s super jarring and inauthentic for someone who is familiar with the source material.
@@skylersteimle8704I never read the books , do you mind explaining to me what the issue is with mentioning Shai-Hulud in this specific show ?Just trying to learn
@@Kaustic410 Shai-Hulud is a spiritual reference to the worm. It is too early in time for the sisterhood to be talking about it is the issue I think. The sisterhood in time created the religion of the Freemen but seems way too early in the timeline for this to even be mentioned by the sisterhood. This is my theory even though you weren't asking me lol
The show is pretty complicated even if you've read the books, the prequels , and seen the movies. I think they are making it easier for viewers Good catch, though
I think and I could be wrong, that Valya wants Theodosa to observe Ynez at Walalch IX and replace her at the end (The Sisterhood literally leads and rules the universe). More specifically Valya rules the imperium cause Theodosa is devited to her.
When Laila appeared at first I expected that to be Dorothea taking control and trying to fuck up everything for the Sisterhood and until the end I was still expecting them to show her snickering that she fooled the sisters into believing Dorothea was actually her mother.
The shield would have protected him from the force of the blast and the heat. But he would have been inhaling fumes and be without air until the smoke cleared out.
Next week - Desmond is offed, there's some retribution, the sisterhood turns inward and has a purge, the Tleilaxu regroup, everyone thinks that the Harkonnen / Atreides bloodline is a threat but staved off for now, and the camera pulls back to reveal Valya suddenly discovering Ynez is pregnant... with an Areides. O noes! They're like roaches! Plans in disarray!
Tula's child .. didn't see it coming. From the night she betrayed her supposed beloved Orry Atreides. Only the child with leg-braces and presumably Desmond later survived. That's cold. Cold on a whaling ice planet cold.
These streaming shows often set up season 2 instead of telling a story in season 1. It is because of this that they often do not reach season 2 and are cancelled after season 1.
sadly one of the only ways for things to get more seasons is social media outcry for more, which requires people to want answers which usually makes the writers finish seasons with cliff hangers or incomplete stories it seems.
@@extracheddar Yep. And tbh I doubt this show has the popularity behind it to force a new season. Most people or normal people aren't going to be that interested in the story to know the greater in-depth lore of the overall dune universe.
The showrunner, producers, and stars revealed the show's plan for multiple seasons. I would imagine it gets that as the movies makes money for them and it would look really bad to cut this show short.
@@InventiveHarvest is that besides the story of the machine war, butlerian jihad, founding of the sisterhood, the story of why the Atreides and Harkonnen hate one another and a million other things ?
My brain automatically went "FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER" as soon as Raquella talked about the fear center. Also, how the breeding program's goals are to get to the Harkonnen/Atredies pairing for the Kwisatz Haderach could be due to "Desmond" accessing at least a bit of that place the Sisters dare not look. I'm digging seeing the beginnings of the Sisterhood's dogma.
As usual, your analysis is spot on and informative. For me, I thought the episode was predictable from the start. I didn’t think the writing was that good and some parts were simply unbelievable. Desmond Hart should trust no one with the last name of Harkonnen.
I am convinced that the glowing eyes have to be Leto 2nd or Omnius/Erasmus as the only other option is the Oracle, which it could also maybe turn out to be.
The eyes are not the God Emperor, HBO would have to own rights to the 4th book for that. The eyes are Desmond, except they represent what he has become. We'll find out who he is in this last episode. I suspect that he has become a personification of Shai-Hulud, and that the eyes are SHai-Hulud. That's kind of "magic", not consistent with Dune, but they have mentioned Shai Hulud several times in the series.... the worm "God" seems much more commonly known than he should be outside of the Fremen. So not the God Emporer, but maybe the worm God. I'm loving the series, especially since episode 3. I can't wait for the "half-season climax". Also enjoying your commentary very much! I would normally binge but knowing you are doing these has me watching in real time. It's fun!
"be specific" - definitely agree. the show leans a little too heavily on riddle speak and ambiguity to maintain mystery. Is it paul, is it leto, is it omnius, is it a pontiac gt with a noisy carburetor? who knows. also at the risk of being a bit reductive, I don't feel like I clearly understand the stakes of the show. Part of this is the prequel problem, in that we know the universe - from the reader / observer POV - more or less remains static for the next 10,000 years (!!!). same tech, roughly the same interest groups, even the same imperial dynasty. given all that I don't really know what or who I'm supposed to care about here beyond pure curiosity and concern for individual character fates.
Why is the Godfather one of the greatest movies ever made? It was based on a book so we knew everything that was going to happen. Why was Dune such a well received movie? It was literally the first half of an already published book
@@jloiben12 I'm (obviously?) not arguing against the concept of adaptations, nor is this show even a direct adaptation - so these analogies are incredibly strained. a better example would be a godfather prequel that takes place 10 years earlier with the same family members, balance of power and relationships we see in the movie. maybe a compelling story could be told in that setting, but introducing narrative tension is going to be an uphill battle. the prequel elements in godfather part 2 work comparatively fine because vito's journey from immigrant to family boss fills in an important blank in addition to serving as a mirror to michael's moral descent. in the context of star wars, andor is a brilliant entry that tells us among other things the story of how the rebellion became the entity we see in the movies. what story is prophecy trying to tell?
One of my theories is that Desmond wasnt really eaten up by a sandworm. It was a left over thinking machine that reached Dune. As what happened in the prequel books. Forget which one. And or the sandworm that ate him, also ate a thinking machine that somehow Desmond was saved by accidentally or some automated process transferred the RNA virus to him. He having some random ability to be a host for the virus. Only slowly dying from it when using it.
i agree there are lots of loose threads we hope they wrap up during the finale, but we used to see this sort of writing in star trek voyager where they solved so many problems in the last 15 minutes of the hour long show. whatever they do let's hope it does not involve stepping on too much established canon so it satisfies book readers while also giving them something original to chew on. thanks quinn for your hard and timely work, as it helps fill the void left by altshiftx for us fellow book readers.
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Thought this was another solid episode (9/10). Everything's crumbling, scisms and alliances are forming, the drama, love it! Definitely think this was Raquella, Dorotea has too much distaste for thinking machines and science to have been that helpful. Definitely interested in how this pathogen is being spread. Also, the reveal of Desmond's parentage, the look on Tula's face... I still think he's a ghola and the original Desmond died on Arrakis.
Wow. Episode 5 was fvcking awsome. Haters back off, lol. Abomination, imprinting, things are heating up. The acting and character development is excellent. I fully approve, and I've read the Dune series twice. Man I hope this takes off and we get many more seasons of Dune - the best sci-fi in existence.
Enjoying your insights on the series! The emperor is dumbstruck by seeing his former lover. Valya briefly mentions the ‘imprinting’ technique of the sisterhood. It’s an example of the myriad ways the sisterhood controls the leadership and the prophecy.
If phisics is implied, a shield would block fast movements and temperature is an indication of particules speed... now, don't know how hot would a gas need to be in order to vibrate so fast a shield would block it
@@rodneykelly8768 Not a photon, to simplify to explanation: temperature is energy, kinetic energy of particles (any atoms, molecules), think of it like how much they wigle and bounce each other, how fast they move. that exact energy radiates infra red light, heat in other words... So for the shield to be blocking the particles I can understand but a you texted shield doesn't block photons, which is heat. So some further explanation would be nice.
@@UFOs-Are-Real Still, in the books, no one who used a shield ever complained about being cold. Also, on Arrakis, no one ever mentioned how the same shields helped them stay cool.
Tabu stomped into the palace and just took Emporer Baldilocks from Jodhi. Valya's win is going to pivot on Jodhi's dalliance with Tula Jr (glad he's not Vorian).
Just browsed your videos, and I am impressed with your deep knowledge about sf literature. Finally someone is telling me about sf books I haven't read yet ❤
They need to explain how Dortea had knowledge of her own death in Lila's other memory. Were her Dortea's eggs fertilized after her death? Was Tula Lila's surrogate? She keeps refering to motherhood, and we saw her link to Desomond in this episode.
Why do they automatically assume that it's Raquella who speaks through Lyla? It could just as well be Dorotea pretending to be Raquella, and it's not as if they have any way to verify. And they don't even try, but what are they gonna ask: tell us something that only Raquella would know? Also why is the text in the UA-cam comment field invisible for a while now? If I wasn't using TTS I wouldn't even be able to tell what I was typing.
In regards to Desmond surviving, it is well established that something has to move slowly in order to pass through. What in that explosion was moving slowly? It isn’t that he was ever going to get blown up. It is the building falling on him that would present more of the problem
8:13 it’s in the preview. Lyla says “the sisterhood has lost its way” and they show her leading all the acolytes into the breeding chamber place with the machine.
With Kieran likely telling Ynez that the Sisterhood was behind the rebellion as he says 'a Harkonnen cannot be trusted' in a trailer, I'm really doubting she makes it to the throne if she also turns hostile against the sisterhood
Definitely the best episode. Did a good job of clarifying some of the mystery threads and brought the broad story plot into focus. If this show had 12 episodes, this would have been an excellent first half of the season… as it stands, it’s ultimately going to feel like a somewhat rushed miniseries
The actress who plays Lila is terrifyingly good. She has gone from being a vulnerable little girl to having the affect and no-nonsense older-woman-vibes of Raquella - the illusion is perfect whenever she is "possessed". It's such good physical acting - the body language, the facial expression. The way she veers back and forth from a scared and confused child to an utterly cold priestess inhabiting the child's body. My theory is that Dorotea takes over the sisterhood through Lila. But no one knows it's her controlling Lila. And Dorotea-as-Lila deliberately sets the breeding program up to fail...she wants the back-slide. She wants the order on a different path... It's so convoluted though. And only one episode left.
Now I think the eyes are Leto II and their mechanical appearance is to throw us off. The big reveal of Desmond Hart's genetic identity looked (to me) exactly like a sandworm with a baby in its mouth.
they introduced the idea of redistrobuting heat energy with the acolites. So mabee desmond heat/atredies/harkonan used the sheild plus energy minipulation. There holding there hands over bunsen burners madness!
I was frustrated with this episode but more on the acting/writing/dialogue side and I thought that fight scene after the explosion was just terrible- but I still want to see the conclusion and get some answers, I also think they're setting things up for another season, if they don't resolve any of the mysteries I'm going to be so pissed🤣 Love your insight it's my go to for understanding this show on a deeper level, thank you🤙
In dune Part 2 you see spice harvesters get blown up when they have shields up. You'll notice that the initially the blast is contained within the shields until the generator is destroyed. So it's believable that Desmond survives that.
Why doesn’t Desmond Hart tell the emperor that the Bene Gesserit are behind the rebellion after he found her garb at the club? Then he can tell the Emperor to execute order 66 on the Bene Gesserit. Oh wait. He can’t of course because the Bene Gesserit as a whole have plot armour.
After the bombing he has no evidence, no witnesses, and no prisoners. He's made it clear he hates them, so who would believe his word with no evidence?
I think Desmond is a cyborg. I think some parts of him was rescued from the sandworm somehow and they patched him up with machine parts. And when he does the burning thing the his machine insides is overheating, which is causing the pain and wounds we're seeing.
Lyla shouldn't have Raquela's death memories. She should only have the memories from before Raquela gave birth to her grandmother. These are genetic memories after all and she would have no memories from her after her grandmother's birth. They messed that up...
The future is fluid. Especially at this point in the “Dune Timeline”. Perhaps in the beginning it was the Omnius. Then as things evolve they become Leto’s. I also wonder led if it was Leto’s because he put a bit of himself into each worm… can that have been across time as well??
I think your frustration derives from the fact that perhaps this is not Raquela at all. I believe this has been Doritaya this entire time and she will eventually reveal herself once she gathers enough Intel and figures out what's been going on since she died. The Intel she's gathering likely centers on the current state of the Sisterhood & Valua/Tula's involvement in that "state of the Sisterhood".
In this book series the one bene gesserit sister figures out how to fold space.i think her name is morbella. Very smart,, mathematical, she falls in love with one of the planettologists of dune and she goes into the tank and folds space and doesnt leave the tank.
I thought and was sort of hoping that Desmond would just die there in the explosion, and then the next episode a new one would be there, as if nothing happened, confirming the ghola theory.
if the next on is the final, then this whole season is a bait for the next season. one of these series where nothing ever happens because its all about selling the next season
Those eyes are headlights, maybe 73 chevy
This is exactly what I was thinking!
I keep thinking of the early Apple TTS voice saying "The light you see at the end of the tunnel, is the headlamp of a fast approaching train"
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Could it be a space navigator?
@@realhxq possibly, but it sounds like a robot
Also the emperor thinking hes doing his son an honor by sending him to deal with the Fremen is hilarious. Poor guy 😮💨
right, with next to no real combat training. This is a death sentence
One would think he would’ve made Desmond the leader of Arrakis.
Yet an honor it is. Javicco Corrino sees the big picture & the looming downfall. Establishing a position of power on Arrakis is the obvious move. Who, if not his son, should be chosen to lead the vanguard & claim Arrakis in the name of Empire? Trial by fire. Constantine will either perish or prevail.
It's wild we're living in a time where we're debating and theory crafting a live action TV show set in the Dune universe. The Dune saga becoming mainstream has some negatives but the positives outweigh the negatives. Dune Prophecy isn't perfect but I still want more.
Right, imagine what they could do
My theory is that Desmond is the one who starts the fanatical Sardaukar legions. Since Desmond has an almost fanatical hatred for the Sisterhood, it would make sense that he creates an army to combat them. I know that the Sardaukar are from an era when Selusa Secundus is a post apocalyptic wasteland, but I could see them doing something like that for the character, the seeds have been planted with him gaining the rank of Bashar in the Corrino military.
thought the same
My thoughts exactly
That’s exactly what I was thinking too
Nah, he’s an abomination so nothing that he creates would be considered once he’s taken down.
Yes, I thought we were seeing a Sardaukar origins story.
Just to say, I'm impressed with the absolute speed you get these videos out.
I think they get screeners in advance, but yes it is still very fast
The actress that plays Francesca, Constantine's mother, is ridiculously gorgeous. Jesus Christ.
I totally get the Emperor's puppy dog eyes.
I get it man.
Agreed
Tabu.. Great Indian actress ❤❤
Her eyes!!! I love that they mention Imprinters in the episode. They literally created love slaves.
Meh
It really bothers me the way the Acolytes and younger Sisters approach the Reverend Mothers and especially the Mother Superior. No reverence? No fear?
Yesssss!!!!! I was thinking the same thing! They nerfed mother superior!!!!
I can see y'all's frustration (and feel it myself, to an extent), but I'm choosing to believe that the lack of respect given to the leadership of the Bene Gesserit is due to the sisterhood being in it's early stages, and that conditioning absolute obedience is something that developed over time
The Bene Gesserit is only in their infancy and the book(s) (three of them) this is based on has two clear factions. There is one faction prepared to do anything for their "breeding" program including the use of machines and one following a hard line Butlerian where they would see their own sisters killed for the use of what they consider heresy. There is murder and plots against one another just like you see in the show and the sisterhood is very much in danger.
You basically got those that revere the reverend mother and those who very much question them as you see in the show.
You can’t always get what you waaant.
Remember this isn’t the Bene Gesserit. This is actually an early form of it.
When Desmond uses his "power" you can hear a very high pitched sound. Rewatch the Landsraad scene. It's some kind of technology, maybe an implant he isn't even aware of, but not a superpower. It clearly has a negative effect on his own body. But the story still needs to explain how he could kill Mother Kasha when she was many lightyears away on Wallach IX ... that's one weird part that doesn't make any sense if this is a weapon.
The whistling he does reminds me of when a tleilaxu uses their means to controlling the face dancers
Wish we could get some Navigator representation in this series 😢
Eh, I want Denis to do it.
big part of the books this is based on so I would imagine you will get that in a possible season two.
More spacing guild generally pls
Are rhey even a thing in the timeline yet?
So they was created during or just after the jihad. There shouldn't be many if them as there a brand new thing to the universe. Maybe a hundred years or so they have been around in dune prophecy.
Still that's enough time for us to see them.
They should have to cooperate with the movie and tv show so they can link it properly.
Also wish Desmond would brush his hair especially since he is Bashar now.
It pissed me off that he was wearing the same uniform that he was wearing when he was shit out by the sandworm. Im glad they put him in new clothes, even if they're just a black version of them.
@johncathey310 I served 10 years in the army and I tell you that shit don't fly. He would never present himself before an emperor dressed in a beat up field uniform. Plus his hair and beard being so disheveled is way too unmilitary like. It's maddening for a military man like me to witness. Embarrassing
@@lordpauly301 ... he got a waiver 😅
@@lordpauly301 agreed. I have an extended family member in Special Ops, and while yeah in the field he gets some latitude to grow a beard , etc once the mission’s over time for the spit shine.
@tracyranger 🤣 good one 😁
Honestly, we have to give this episode to Mother Raquella, our girl still working for tge Sisterhood way past her expiration date. Also, the actress that plays Constantine's mother is so beautiful.
Has nobody noticed that Sister Jen does not have all those Gesserit superpowers? She can't see truth, and she can't handle the flame, and she is not subject to any visions. When she is tested to see truth, she evades the assignment with a joke. When she has to absorb the Bunsen burner, she distracts by complaining and challenging the assignment, and withdraws her hand. What's the deal with Jen? Who is she really working for?
It's the main mother (forgot her name) daughter I think. Even if she disnt know it it would make sense why she is allowed to be there while only really having the ability to lie. 😂
@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE If I ran the sisterhood, I would have those people in there too, who are not susceptible to all the juju mambo jambo. You know, people with common sense.
@SangsungMeansToCome there's also the possibility she has the null gene. So is immune to prescience.
But I think she will be the mother superiors daughter.
For religion to attain its true power there needs to be people at the center that knows it all just smoke and mirrors. The most destructive to all religions are true believers with no realists to steer them.
@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE You mean Valya?
Desmond must be a Ghola with enhancements for this disease spread. I think the little scrap of cloth he carries around is all that remains from his orignal body when the sand worm ate him. It had a bit of blood on it, and the Tlelaxu recreated him from that, then gave it to him as a souvenier of a sort. This Desmond is not her son, her son died on Arrakis 😢.
I think the scrap of fabric is from Tula’s robe/blanket he was abandoned in. It is all he has left of his mother who abandoned him to his life of danger & pain.
The scrap is from the Fremen Geserit sister.
The scrap is proof that Mikayla the spice smuggler is a member of the Sisterhood, which ties Valya to the attempted assassination of the High Council at the Landsraad. Right before Desmond survived the explosion, he found Mikayla's Sisterhood robes.
Desmond holds that scrap in his first episode introduction@@Flismz
An Atreides ancestor (Desmond Hart) helped make the Corrino military a superior power? Irony, oh, irony. Since he and Paul has the same parent pattern? Harkonnen mother and Atreides father, could that explain his prescience or any other special ability?
I think it explains why, 10,000 years later, the Bene Gesserit want to marry Atriedes/Harkonnen cousins. Remember, their original plan was for Jessica to have a girl(we can call Paulina, I guess) who would marry Feyd and give birth to the KH.
@nathanlandolt5505 Yes, exactly. That makes sense
Yes he is a kwisaz sadurak. He just has no training so has no idea what is happening to him. He will he the reason the bene gesserit realise they can make one. But it needs to be able to be controlled. So they set out a 10,000 year plan to breed the control elements into the dna of harkonnens and atreides so they can finally unite harkonnen and atreides to make the new kwisak sadurak they can control. But Jessica does it 1 generation early making it so they can't control Paul. Plus there plan to help harkonnens to become the main power before producing the lisaz sadurak means rhey set Paul against them.
A self fullfiling prophecy they created the thing that destroyed them.
@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE that's it! Bred for prescience and control
@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFEthe KH takes thousands of years to BE ABLE to exist. That's the whole point. Desmond is no KH.
16:22 Orrrr hear me out… Desmond’s burning hatred for the Sisterhood is so intense, it lets him cook.
Without a convection stove
You are cooking bro
Desmond pulled a Joshua Graham. “I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me”
Everything is splintered. The Corrino house, The Sisterhood, the sisters (Valya and Tula), father and daughter, husband and wife, teacher and student......
I don't remember which video of yours it was last week but I knew Desmond hart wS tula's son but I believe he is more specifically a Gola of the man . Hes a living weapon of the Bene Tleilax. They would have tech to identify his lineage and would have prehaps gotten his memories prior to his death, even arranged for his death on their timeline.
I agree, he's a living weapon setup by someone else.Or he's a Ghola of Tulsa's soon or a Tleilaxu prototype Kwisatz Haderach.
@@394qwerthe Proto-KH the tleilaxu made wouldn’t be a thing until Paul of Dune. And even then, in messiah, we learned that the proto-KH killed himself. Would Desmond be a ghola? He’s holding on to a scrap of fabric. Though if he was a ghola, there would be remnants the memories
The problem with Desmond and the force field scene is that force fields in the Dune universe are essentially kinetic devices, meaning all the heat of the explosion would still cook him inside the force field. You can say that he can't be cooked by hot air from a bomb after surviving the internal furnace of a sandworm (and I would be forced to agree), but then the question would be how did he survive the internal furnace of a sandworm in the first place.
“Gaping maw” the mouth of the sand worm. Not wall. Desmond’s right eye looks like a lens implant.
I think of Desmond from LOST whenever I watch this, and that guy is Viking Ragnar Lothbrok who just also happened to be in the Raised by Wolves thing - watching all 3 in the same week is playing havoc with my brain. All are great series though.
I love coming to see what Quinn says after every episode!! HBO should hire you
Its so frustrating that there are 2 instances in this episode where people get outed because they just leave stuff lying around 😂
Yeah. Clearly one of those film-making problems that end up looking dumb, but that saves shooting time.
Seems like lazy writing to me so they can save on time.
I thought Sister Francesca left the stuff there. She clearly had a talk with her son to guide him.
Are you talking about Desmond’s tape thing the emperor saw? I thought that was intentional
@@schumerthdbut we see Atredies holding it before Desmond asks him to look for insurgences
They would have got me too if they sent Francesca my way. I can't even blame the emperor.
It triggers me every time they call worms Shai-Hulud. I also thought them mentioning old earth was a bit weird. The books made it seem like most people without other memory did not know about earth.
she obviously became possessed by mother Raquella and people of the that time do remember old earth
@@6ixallah The Emperor mentions Old Earth. Which is 10000 years prior to this point in the story as well.
It makes more sense “now” than in the far far future of the dune books series at least. They are still not long out from the war
Yeah, Old Earth is a distant memory that most people in the Imperium don't know about, unless you have other memory.
@@LightningRaven42 if you read the Brian Herbert books which they are heavily taking from especially since they showed they machine wars and doing an interpretation of sisterhood of dune.
during the butlarian jihad old earth was used and was homeland to most until omnius AI took over and made every human on old earth as slaves at that point that had traveled the stars and established different home planets but yet old earth was also mentioned by Paul in the book and talks about it with Duncan also in the original book it’s not taboo of people not knowing Leto the second talks about it a bit also in either children or heretics of dune.
She let "Lila" out because she was possessed by Raquella who was a Mother Superior, i wouldn't view that as disobedience
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My theory extends to the worm that swallowed Desmond. It almost seems likely that the worm had swallowed some thinking machine (worms pretty much swallow everything including sand crawlers, spice harvesters, etc.) That machine has the two blue dots and transmitted the virus to Desmond and replaced his right eye with a device that triggers the virus and burns whomever has been infected. Simplistic maybe but it makes sense to me. Desmond does not have super powers. And that scrap of cloth is likely a piece of his mother's (Tula's) robe or a piece of his own swaddling clothes that he clings to as a talisman of his own hatred.
The thinking machines didn’t exactly make to Arrakis if I remember correctly. Arrakis wouldn’t become the treasured wasteland until after the butlarian revolt
I believe the entity being referred to as backsliding into the past is clearly Omnius, or Erasmus (based on the backstory in the later books). They name check Omnius and his plagues from the Jihad.
That’s still at least another 15,000 years before Omnius begins his return
In Dune the mother superior tells Jessica that a female child could have 'sealed the breach' between the two houses. Desmond could be the first inkling of the idea that these two blood lines are the key, but does it really take another 10,000 years?
Mohiam wasn’t the mother superior, just another reverend mother. But that was before the breach really happened. If it was about sealing the breach, Tula wouldn’t have done what she did
I think that piece of fabric Desmond has is a piece of Tula's clothing that he has been carrying around his entire life.
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Dune is a chess game. I expect a checkmate to occur between the two factions within the sisterhood and the Harkonnen sisters. You neglected to mention the RNA retro virus used by Omnius as a weapon during the Butlerian Jihad. Last week the Empeeor referenced the Titans.
Definitely thought after the fire explosion, Desmond's face,like half of it would expose some android robotic face under the skin, so yeah, you're not alone there Quinn
Missed one thing: right before the explosion Desmond found a garment. I suspect that was the garment of the person replaced by the face-dancer. I'll have to go back and watch again to determine who that might be. First thoughts could be the princess or the swords master.
Also, I suspect that Fremen Bene Gesserit will result in that splinter group of reverend mothers that took root on Arrakis.
Also, that whistling that Desmond does I believe activates the virus.
I thought that was the fremen woman's sisterhood robe.
@@scottmorgan5212 Cool. Supports the idea that she is the root of the future reverend mother splinter group on arrakis.
@@ethan20minecraftnot really a splinter group, more like a missionary to sow the seeds for the missionaria protectiva
I think she said “The maw of Shai-Hulud…”
1. I am a bit disappointed that Desmond's blood wasn't used as a virus to take over the Sisterhood's thinking machihe... yet.
2. So, I guess Desmond was consciously not ratting out his cousin?
I hope there is Season 2
and a longer season 2
@@robertfrost1683agreed. Hopefully it will be like when Twin Peaks S1 only got 8 episodes, then S2 got like 20 or something. Maybe Max wasn't sure how the series would be accepted, so they did some risk mitigation and only allowed basically a miniseries to cut costs
@@hamdinger7145 this needs a 22 episode series - remember those ?
This episode definitely justifies the lengthy ep3 flashback. Knowing Tula's backstory with the Atreides puts a lot more weight into the origin of Desmond Hart.
Regarding Theodosia: I imagine she will become a plant for *someone* significant in the imperium that Valya plans to kill off. Hart? A member of the imperial family? Hard to say. But that's my guess.
The less exciting thing would be for Theodosia to just temporarily trick people for a few hours. But we'll see!
Thanks Quinn for having this up so soon after the episode. For loners like me with no one to chat it over with, your vids a quite a comfort.
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I like the actress that was chosen to play Sister Francesca. I just don’t understand why she has a Latin name when she is clearly Indian.
The actress who plays Lila really stepped up. She is 100% a different personality after her resurrection. Between her acting and her hair being down I almost don’t recognize her as the Lila from the first two episodes.
I've always assumed that far in the future Earth based culture would be all mixed up and mostly invalid. Whereas the genetic traits might still be there things like cultural name conventions would be gone.
Imperial Family has Persian like names even though they’re not
Technically, she isn’t Indian. Earth was destroyed during the butlarian revolt since it was the central planet of the machine empire. But I would imagine cultures crossing over the years would have these kinds of effects, and plus we have to keeping in mind how humans adapted to their planets.
@@tgiacin435She speaks with an Indian accent.
@ probably because her home world uses the Indian language.
Fear became the literal mind killer as of ep 5 😂 6:53
Hey Quinn, thanks for your channel! I love the takes and dives you do in Dune. I am a little frustrated with Dune Prophecy. I feel like the entire season has been set up for later seasons. That's all well and good but season one needs to have more of a contained story arc.
Exactly
Why do people like the empress keep talking about Shai-Hulud? She’s not Fremen! She shouldn’t worship the worms as divine beings.
The Fremen don’t even exist yet at this time!
It completely takes me out of the show when they name drop Shai-Hulud or when she said “Arrakis was created to train the faithful”. It’s super jarring and inauthentic for someone who is familiar with the source material.
@@skylersteimle8704I never read the books , do you mind explaining to me what the issue is with mentioning Shai-Hulud in this specific show ?Just trying to learn
@@Kaustic410 Shai-Hulud is a spiritual reference to the worm. It is too early in time for the sisterhood to be talking about it is the issue I think. The sisterhood in time created the religion of the Freemen but seems way too early in the timeline for this to even be mentioned by the sisterhood. This is my theory even though you weren't asking me lol
The show is pretty complicated even if you've read the books, the prequels , and seen the movies. I think they are making it easier for viewers
Good catch, though
@@kbaccari88 yes talk about major consolidation
I think and I could be wrong, that Valya wants Theodosa to observe Ynez at Walalch IX and replace her at the end (The Sisterhood literally leads and rules the universe). More specifically Valya rules the imperium cause Theodosa is devited to her.
I’m very disappointed we’re only gonna get six episodes
They got several seasons planned.
When Laila appeared at first I expected that to be Dorothea taking control and trying to fuck up everything for the Sisterhood and until the end I was still expecting them to show her snickering that she fooled the sisters into believing Dorothea was actually her mother.
The shield would have protected him from the force of the blast and the heat. But he would have been inhaling fumes and be without air until the smoke cleared out.
Next week - Desmond is offed, there's some retribution, the sisterhood turns inward and has a purge, the Tleilaxu regroup, everyone thinks that the Harkonnen / Atreides bloodline is a threat but staved off for now, and the camera pulls back to reveal Valya suddenly discovering Ynez is pregnant... with an Areides. O noes! They're like roaches! Plans in disarray!
But the Atredies don’t get the throne until Paul. Though Leto was the 16th in line for the throne
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Tula's child .. didn't see it coming. From the night she betrayed her supposed beloved Orry Atreides. Only the child with leg-braces and presumably Desmond later survived. That's cold. Cold on a whaling ice planet cold.
These streaming shows often set up season 2 instead of telling a story in season 1. It is because of this that they often do not reach season 2 and are cancelled after season 1.
sadly one of the only ways for things to get more seasons is social media outcry for more, which requires people to want answers which usually makes the writers finish seasons with cliff hangers or incomplete stories it seems.
@@extracheddar Yep. And tbh I doubt this show has the popularity behind it to force a new season. Most people or normal people aren't going to be that interested in the story to know the greater in-depth lore of the overall dune universe.
The showrunner, producers, and stars revealed the show's plan for multiple seasons. I would imagine it gets that as the movies makes money for them and it would look really bad to cut this show short.
@logirex the shows that set up a second season instead of telling a story in the first, also planned for a second season.
@@InventiveHarvest is that besides the story of the machine war, butlerian jihad, founding of the sisterhood, the story of why the Atreides and Harkonnen hate one another and a million other things ?
My brain automatically went "FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER" as soon as Raquella talked about the fear center.
Also, how the breeding program's goals are to get to the Harkonnen/Atredies pairing for the Kwisatz Haderach could be due to "Desmond" accessing at least a bit of that place the Sisters dare not look.
I'm digging seeing the beginnings of the Sisterhood's dogma.
As usual, your analysis is spot on and informative. For me, I thought the episode was predictable from the start. I didn’t think the writing was that good and some parts were simply unbelievable. Desmond Hart should trust no one with the last name of Harkonnen.
I am convinced that the glowing eyes have to be Leto 2nd or Omnius/Erasmus as the only other option is the Oracle, which it could also maybe turn out to be.
I agree but also the voice that accompanies the eyes weirdly reminds me of the Sardaukar
Who the heck is Omnius?
@@CamJ95AI being from the Butlerian Jihad
@@CamJ95 AI thinking machine that was ruling humanity until he was defeated in the butlerian jihad
The eyes are not the God Emperor, HBO would have to own rights to the 4th book for that. The eyes are Desmond, except they represent what he has become. We'll find out who he is in this last episode. I suspect that he has become a personification of Shai-Hulud, and that the eyes are SHai-Hulud. That's kind of "magic", not consistent with Dune, but they have mentioned Shai Hulud several times in the series.... the worm "God" seems much more commonly known than he should be outside of the Fremen. So not the God Emporer, but maybe the worm God. I'm loving the series, especially since episode 3. I can't wait for the "half-season climax". Also enjoying your commentary very much! I would normally binge but knowing you are doing these has me watching in real time. It's fun!
"be specific" - definitely agree. the show leans a little too heavily on riddle speak and ambiguity to maintain mystery. Is it paul, is it leto, is it omnius, is it a pontiac gt with a noisy carburetor? who knows. also at the risk of being a bit reductive, I don't feel like I clearly understand the stakes of the show. Part of this is the prequel problem, in that we know the universe - from the reader / observer POV - more or less remains static for the next 10,000 years (!!!). same tech, roughly the same interest groups, even the same imperial dynasty. given all that I don't really know what or who I'm supposed to care about here beyond pure curiosity and concern for individual character fates.
Why is the Godfather one of the greatest movies ever made? It was based on a book so we knew everything that was going to happen.
Why was Dune such a well received movie? It was literally the first half of an already published book
@@jloiben12 I'm (obviously?) not arguing against the concept of adaptations, nor is this show even a direct adaptation - so these analogies are incredibly strained. a better example would be a godfather prequel that takes place 10 years earlier with the same family members, balance of power and relationships we see in the movie. maybe a compelling story could be told in that setting, but introducing narrative tension is going to be an uphill battle. the prequel elements in godfather part 2 work comparatively fine because vito's journey from immigrant to family boss fills in an important blank in addition to serving as a mirror to michael's moral descent. in the context of star wars, andor is a brilliant entry that tells us among other things the story of how the rebellion became the entity we see in the movies. what story is prophecy trying to tell?
One of my theories is that Desmond wasnt really eaten up by a sandworm. It was a left over thinking machine that reached Dune. As what happened in the prequel books. Forget which one. And or the sandworm that ate him, also ate a thinking machine that somehow Desmond was saved by accidentally or some automated process transferred the RNA virus to him. He having some random ability to be a host for the virus. Only slowly dying from it when using it.
i agree there are lots of loose threads we hope they wrap up during the finale, but we used to see this sort of writing in star trek voyager where they solved so many problems in the last 15 minutes of the hour long show. whatever they do let's hope it does not involve stepping on too much established canon so it satisfies book readers while also giving them something original to chew on. thanks quinn for your hard and timely work, as it helps fill the void left by altshiftx for us fellow book readers.
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I surprised they mentioned Bene Gesserit "imprinting" when discussing Sister Francesca, didn't realize that skill was developed at this point in time.
Thought this was another solid episode (9/10). Everything's crumbling, scisms and alliances are forming, the drama, love it! Definitely think this was Raquella, Dorotea has too much distaste for thinking machines and science to have been that helpful. Definitely interested in how this pathogen is being spread. Also, the reveal of Desmond's parentage, the look on Tula's face... I still think he's a ghola and the original Desmond died on Arrakis.
Or he’s another face dancer, maybe a more perfected version sent to let the tleilaxu slip as a political entity
Wow. Episode 5 was fvcking awsome. Haters back off, lol.
Abomination, imprinting, things are heating up. The acting and character development is excellent.
I fully approve, and I've read the Dune series twice. Man I hope this takes off and we get many more seasons of Dune - the best sci-fi in existence.
Enjoying your insights on the series!
The emperor is dumbstruck by seeing his former lover. Valya briefly mentions the ‘imprinting’ technique of the sisterhood. It’s an example of the myriad ways the sisterhood controls the leadership and the prophecy.
04:25 Sandworms have an internal furnace. This is important because at no point does canon imply that a shield will insolate against temperature.
If phisics is implied, a shield would block fast movements and temperature is an indication of particules speed... now, don't know how hot would a gas need to be in order to vibrate so fast a shield would block it
@@lucbisaillon How fast is a photon? The shields don't block light.
@@rodneykelly8768 also has no mass
@@rodneykelly8768 Not a photon, to simplify to explanation: temperature is energy, kinetic energy of particles (any atoms, molecules), think of it like how much they wigle and bounce each other, how fast they move. that exact energy radiates infra red light, heat in other words... So for the shield to be blocking the particles I can understand but a you texted shield doesn't block photons, which is heat. So some further explanation would be nice.
@@UFOs-Are-Real Still, in the books, no one who used a shield ever complained about being cold. Also, on Arrakis, no one ever mentioned how the same shields helped them stay cool.
Tabu stomped into the palace and just took Emporer Baldilocks from Jodhi. Valya's win is going to pivot on Jodhi's dalliance with Tula Jr (glad he's not Vorian).
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They need to explain how Dortea had knowledge of her own death in Lila's other memory. Were her Dortea's eggs fertilized after her death? Was Tula Lila's surrogate? She keeps refering to motherhood, and we saw her link to Desomond in this episode.
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Why do they automatically assume that it's Raquella who speaks through Lyla? It could just as well be Dorotea pretending to be Raquella, and it's not as if they have any way to verify. And they don't even try, but what are they gonna ask: tell us something that only Raquella would know?
Also why is the text in the UA-cam comment field invisible for a while now? If I wasn't using TTS I wouldn't even be able to tell what I was typing.
In regards to Desmond surviving, it is well established that something has to move slowly in order to pass through. What in that explosion was moving slowly?
It isn’t that he was ever going to get blown up. It is the building falling on him that would present more of the problem
or the mildly elevated temperature...
Shields don't protect from fire or heat or radiation.
Another thing that the shield wouldn't protect from would be the balloon effect that is caused by explosions.
8:13 it’s in the preview. Lyla says “the sisterhood has lost its way” and they show her leading all the acolytes into the breeding chamber place with the machine.
With Kieran likely telling Ynez that the Sisterhood was behind the rebellion as he says 'a Harkonnen cannot be trusted' in a trailer, I'm really doubting she makes it to the throne if she also turns hostile against the sisterhood
Tula's son seems reasonable - she is sentimental as opposed to Valya.
Definitely the best episode. Did a good job of clarifying some of the mystery threads and brought the broad story plot into focus. If this show had 12 episodes, this would have been an excellent first half of the season… as it stands, it’s ultimately going to feel like a somewhat rushed miniseries
The actress who plays Lila is terrifyingly good. She has gone from being a vulnerable little girl to having the affect and no-nonsense older-woman-vibes of Raquella - the illusion is perfect whenever she is "possessed". It's such good physical acting - the body language, the facial expression. The way she veers back and forth from a scared and confused child to an utterly cold priestess inhabiting the child's body. My theory is that Dorotea takes over the sisterhood through Lila. But no one knows it's her controlling Lila. And Dorotea-as-Lila deliberately sets the breeding program up to fail...she wants the back-slide. She wants the order on a different path...
It's so convoluted though. And only one episode left.
Now I think the eyes are Leto II and their mechanical appearance is to throw us off. The big reveal of Desmond Hart's genetic identity looked (to me) exactly like a sandworm with a baby in its mouth.
they introduced the idea of redistrobuting heat energy with the acolites. So mabee desmond heat/atredies/harkonan used the sheild plus energy minipulation. There holding there hands over bunsen burners madness!
I was frustrated with this episode but more on the acting/writing/dialogue side and I thought that fight scene after the explosion was just terrible- but I still want to see the conclusion and get some answers, I also think they're setting things up for another season, if they don't resolve any of the mysteries I'm going to be so pissed🤣 Love your insight it's my go to for understanding this show on a deeper level, thank you🤙
Face Dancer will probably be the backup plan to kill Desmond. I'm sure his mother will interrupt it all somehow.
In dune Part 2 you see spice harvesters get blown up when they have shields up. You'll notice that the initially the blast is contained within the shields until the generator is destroyed. So it's believable that Desmond survives that.
Shields scale their hardness from the speed of particles that hit it, so yes, shield would easily protect him in that situation
Why doesn’t Desmond Hart tell the emperor that the Bene Gesserit are behind the rebellion after he found her garb at the club?
Then he can tell the Emperor to execute order 66 on the Bene Gesserit.
Oh wait. He can’t of course because the Bene Gesserit as a whole have plot armour.
The garb probably burned up?
After the bombing he has no evidence, no witnesses, and no prisoners. He's made it clear he hates them, so who would believe his word with no evidence?
I think his personal conviction comes before and he does believe he is doing a favor to the Imperium.
the sisterhood doesn't have plot armor, they can be culled and the remnants can still form the benefit geserit
He will probably do that next episode. He had a near death experience and is shaken up, no need to interrupt the Emperor’s dinner.
I think Desmond is a cyborg. I think some parts of him was rescued from the sandworm somehow and they patched him up with machine parts. And when he does the burning thing the his machine insides is overheating, which is causing the pain and wounds we're seeing.
Lyla shouldn't have Raquela's death memories. She should only have the memories from before Raquela gave birth to her grandmother. These are genetic memories after all and she would have no memories from her after her grandmother's birth. They messed that up...
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The future is fluid. Especially at this point in the “Dune Timeline”. Perhaps in the beginning it was the Omnius. Then as things evolve they become Leto’s. I also wonder led if it was Leto’s because he put a bit of himself into each worm… can that have been across time as well??
I think your frustration derives from the fact that perhaps this is not Raquela at all. I believe this has been Doritaya this entire time and she will eventually reveal herself once she gathers enough Intel and figures out what's been going on since she died. The Intel she's gathering likely centers on the current state of the Sisterhood & Valua/Tula's involvement in that "state of the Sisterhood".
In this book series the one bene gesserit sister figures out how to fold space.i think her name is morbella. Very smart,, mathematical, she falls in love with one of the planettologists of dune and she goes into the tank and folds space and doesnt leave the tank.
I agree Desmond’s vendetta is personal but he’s being used as a tool of more powerful entities.
Hope for season 2!
I thought and was sort of hoping that Desmond would just die there in the explosion, and then the next episode a new one would be there, as if nothing happened, confirming the ghola theory.
When Desmond walked out unscathed, I'm just like, is he part machine? How??
Shiver me timbers! Desmond is Tula's son? Half Atreides and half Harkonnen? Those are Kwisatz Haderach genes! Five hundred generations early though.
thanks for not putting spoilers in the thumbnail this time
I think Desmond survives the explosion because he's on the third floor. It looks like the only rigged the bombs in the basement.
Yes, shields can protect from those kinds of explosions.
Sister Francesca is Sister Theodosia in Facedancer mode.
Oh damn what a twist that would be
if the next on is the final, then this whole season is a bait for the next season. one of these series where nothing ever happens because its all about selling the next season