Infinitely Many Touching Circles - Numberphile

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  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  2 роки тому +54

    Sponsor: www.kiwico.com/Numberphile
    Matt Henderson: twitter.com/matthen2
    More videos with Matt Henderson: bit.ly/MattHendersonPlaylist

    • @Typical.Anomaly
      @Typical.Anomaly 2 роки тому

      What happens if the circles are circumscribed in the boxes >>under

    • @bencanfield
      @bencanfield 2 роки тому

      @@Typical.Anomaly I think they would be on the outside of the circle. What do you think?

    • @antoniussugianto7973
      @antoniussugianto7973 2 роки тому

      The AREA of infinitely many touching circles equals....

    • @Bibibosh
      @Bibibosh 2 роки тому

      This has to be to most interesting mathematical things you should know!

    • @Bibibosh
      @Bibibosh 2 роки тому

      What if the area is pi?

  • @AMTunLimited
    @AMTunLimited 2 роки тому +641

    I've seen many of these before, but the rectangle of area=1 is absolutely mind expanding. Absolutely nerd-sniped

    • @EamonBurke
      @EamonBurke 2 роки тому +13

      It seems kind of obvious that is what will happen because when new circles are drawn on the uppermost space, they are arbitrarily placed precisely arranged in such a way that they will touch and not overlap. Because the rectangle with fixed area is acting kind of like a panto router it is merely translating this pattern to a smaller scale. The reason they are nested circles is because one corner of this rectangle is arbitrarily fixed and used to create the originating point of a radius. So it's kind of like, if I draw a bunch of circles that just barely touch and translate them into a rotational map of the same space, I will get a circular space of touching circles.
      Which is kind of like, yeah, of course you will.

    • @AMTunLimited
      @AMTunLimited 2 роки тому +5

      @@EamonBurke I meant the first circle from the line

    • @WestExplainsBest
      @WestExplainsBest 2 роки тому +6

      Takes circles to a whole other level. Videos like this would enhance a secondary mathematics classroom.

    • @Bronzescorpion
      @Bronzescorpion 2 роки тому +9

      @@EamonBurke What do you think arbitrarily means? Doesn't seem to me that you are using the word right, even the two words "arbitrarily" and "precisely" seem kind of a oxymoron when put together.
      The circles are not arbitrarily placed and neither is the fixation of the corner of rectangle. I would even argue that is the exact opposite. Both the circle and the rectangle follow a strict set of rules or deliberate thought in placement.

    • @ShankarSivarajan
      @ShankarSivarajan 2 роки тому

      @@EamonBurke "arbitrarily placed precisely arranged" Which is it?

  • @elnico5623
    @elnico5623 2 роки тому +476

    I love how 3 times now they hit us with circle inversion

    • @chaitanyalodha3948
      @chaitanyalodha3948 2 роки тому +14

      And it's still not enough!!

    • @sillygoofygoofball
      @sillygoofygoofball 2 роки тому +10

      I need MOAR

    • @Syrange13
      @Syrange13 2 роки тому +8

      They just think it's neat.

    • @psmirage8584
      @psmirage8584 2 роки тому +2

      Like it's a fundamental property of Geometry.

    • @minirop
      @minirop 2 роки тому +3

      and how many times did they hit us with Pascal's triangle?

  • @HonkeyKongLive
    @HonkeyKongLive 2 роки тому +114

    This is one of the most genuinely mesmerizing videos on the channel so far, with Langton's Ant and Sandpiles being its only competition.

    • @WestExplainsBest
      @WestExplainsBest 2 роки тому +7

      Takes circles to a whole other level. Videos like this would enhance a secondary mathematics classroom.

    • @xleph2525
      @xleph2525 2 роки тому

      Also Conway's Game of Life

    • @bammam5988
      @bammam5988 2 роки тому +1

      The logistic map

    • @Triantalex
      @Triantalex 9 місяців тому

      false.

  • @BigDBrian
    @BigDBrian 2 роки тому +258

    The animation just begs to draw the next horizontal line, one unit up. It should touch all the circles from both rows, and the 'origin', so you can imagine how it must be drawn fairly easily. I think it would look neat though.

    • @HPD1171
      @HPD1171 2 роки тому +31

      he did this at 5:40 but he drew a line four circles up. he just did not show the line only the resulting circle.

    • @MajikkanBeingsUnite
      @MajikkanBeingsUnite 2 роки тому +2

      Apollonian gasket, you're thinking?

    • @RowanAckerman
      @RowanAckerman 2 роки тому +14

      I'm interested in what you would get if you drew circles below the line.

    • @MarioDiNicola
      @MarioDiNicola 2 роки тому +6

      I'm interested in what the tightly packed configuration (hex) looks like on inversion...

    • @jarrodfrench957
      @jarrodfrench957 2 роки тому +8

      I believe you'd just get smaller or bigger circles, whose touching on the right hand side of that original circle?
      That is, all parallel lines above the "original line" would be a smaller circle sharing one point with the "original circle" and bigger circles for the parallel lines below the original.

  • @AliveInTwilight
    @AliveInTwilight 2 роки тому +43

    I love this "style" of episode - 2-4 similar but unrelated topics in one longer vid. It's like the Neil Sloane "amazing graphs" series of vids from this channel. Great stuff!

  • @jonwoods6745
    @jonwoods6745 2 роки тому +52

    I love seeing videos with Matt Henderson! Thank you all for what you do!

  • @CursedKyuubi
    @CursedKyuubi 2 роки тому +8

    THIS is the beauty and simplicity of Math. Our numbers give reasoning and make it complex,
    But behind those smoke and mirrors of numbers and variables, is geometric beauty.
    Amazing work Matt Henderson. And discoveries/explanations like these is why Numberphile is an OG of the youtube Math community

  • @LilZombieFooFoo
    @LilZombieFooFoo 2 роки тому +16

    My brain melted at the rectangle. My goodness! Surprise circle inversion is the new "what is pi doing here."

    • @wasabij
      @wasabij 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, but seeing it in motion it's hard to not see! That is what I love about these animations: they give me a much better intuition of concepts the textbooks or my unfortunate tutors every could!

  • @Hello-pz6hb
    @Hello-pz6hb 2 роки тому +116

    "Infinitely Many Touching Circles" sounds like a cool band name.

    • @HanzCastroyearsago
      @HanzCastroyearsago 2 роки тому +6

      I have an idea

    • @dave2.077
      @dave2.077 2 роки тому +5

      they play abastract punky rock

    • @irokosalei5133
      @irokosalei5133 2 роки тому +5

      That sounds like a track from Explosion in the Sky

    • @Slyzor1
      @Slyzor1 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, if they play nerdcore

    • @EDDhoot
      @EDDhoot 2 роки тому +1

      or mathcore

  • @luizchagasjardim
    @luizchagasjardim 2 роки тому +21

    When I saw the constant area thing, I immediately shouted "that's inversion with extra steps". Very cool way to introduce this concept.

  • @eliaspoulogiannis
    @eliaspoulogiannis 2 роки тому +13

    This reminds me an epic older Numberphile video with Simon Pampena where he manually draw the circles

  • @davidgillies620
    @davidgillies620 2 роки тому +22

    Apollonian gaskets are cool. They have a connection to Ford circles, which I think have been covered in another video, and thence to Farey sequences and the Stern-Brocot tree (ditto).

    • @matthewellisor5835
      @matthewellisor5835 2 роки тому

      Well, my Ford does need a new set of head gaskets. Where can I find that brand? :D
      I'd say that I'm sorry and I couldn't help it, but I won't lie to you.

  • @TheGreatAtario
    @TheGreatAtario 2 роки тому +3

    I feel so emotional. These circles are just so touching.

  • @kitconnick427
    @kitconnick427 2 роки тому +3

    I never want these Matt Henderson videos to end, I love them, thanks for bringing him to my attention!

  • @MathFromAlphaToOmega
    @MathFromAlphaToOmega 2 роки тому +9

    Here's one way of seeing why the intersection of the circles and lines is a parabola:
    Say the center point has a circle of radius r intersecting one of the lines. Then that intersection point is r units from the center. But since the circles and lines are moving right at the same rate, the intersection point is also r units left of a certain line. That line is the directrix, and the center point is the focus.

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 2 роки тому +82

    What does the circle on the right map to, the one formed as a limit of all the increasingly smaller circles? And what happens when you go below the line? Do you just get a mirror image of the pattern within the circle?

    • @bobby_tablez
      @bobby_tablez 2 роки тому +7

      This is what i need to know

    • @csours
      @csours 2 роки тому +36

      Below the line would be outside the main circle. The circle formed as a limit of the other circles is the sides of the triangle that is formed from the circles drawn above the line

    • @sinisternightcore3489
      @sinisternightcore3489 2 роки тому +19

      Looks like it's drawing four infinite rows of circles and topping the fourth row off with another straight line.

    • @alonamaloh
      @alonamaloh 2 роки тому +5

      Below the line you'll get mostly another copy of the circle but going to the right instead of to the left of the origin. I'm not exactly sure what the two rows of circles just below the line will map to. I should make this picture.

    • @Bodyknock
      @Bodyknock 2 роки тому +13

      Even though the picture at 8:01 makes it look like at the limit there’s a big empty circle on the right, that’s just where the simulation stopped. If you think about it though, if the lower right corner of the rectangle is the origin (0,0), then there are circles above it touching all points of the form (0, 1 + (2k+1)/2) for k = 1,2,3,…. So the height of those rectangles is 1 + (2k+1)/2, which makes the width the reciprocal, and as k grows to infinity that width approaches 0. So as more and more circles are added you are getting circles that intersect the x-axis at points closer and closer to the origin, which means there isn’t a big empty gap on the x-axis, it’s filled with an infinite string of circles approaching that pivot point.

  • @kdawg3484
    @kdawg3484 2 роки тому +4

    I need to see either an epic math fight or an epic math collab between Grant Sanderson and Matt Henderson.

  • @Spoggyboggy
    @Spoggyboggy 2 роки тому +48

    The circle inversion reminds me of the tanks in Bubble Tanks, must've been the method they used.

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 2 роки тому +3

      Bubble tanks is great

    • @mavreyn
      @mavreyn Рік тому

      Dude I swore I was the only person thinking of that

  • @yaseenshaik67
    @yaseenshaik67 2 роки тому +39

    This is the channel that can make anyone fall in love with mathematics💯💯❤

    • @WestExplainsBest
      @WestExplainsBest 2 роки тому +1

      Takes circles to a whole other level. Videos like this would enhance a secondary mathematics classroom.

    • @divyanshsrivastava824
      @divyanshsrivastava824 2 роки тому +1

      But our schools is teaches maths in a way like they are sst ,
      Because of there teaching some people hate maths either maths is a subject no one can hatee

  • @ijomeli
    @ijomeli 2 роки тому +8

    4:42 the funny

  • @saranchance5650
    @saranchance5650 2 роки тому +1

    Very cool. The music matched things well

  • @MrAdzielinski
    @MrAdzielinski 2 роки тому +1

    I remember seeing and attempting the original inverted circles video. Glad to see math is still fun

  • @stanimir5F
    @stanimir5F 2 роки тому +1

    Everytime I hear about "circle inversion" I get a flashback from the Simon's laugh in "Epic Circles" at 21:50.

  • @DougMayhew-ds3ug
    @DougMayhew-ds3ug 9 місяців тому

    All of these animations are beautiful, and the circle inversion one reminds me of the holographic principle. Brilliant! I am left wondering about variations or extensions of these themes into still higher forms.

  • @jacklardner8229
    @jacklardner8229 2 роки тому +1

    Yess more Matt Henderson content

  • @irwingalvarez
    @irwingalvarez 2 роки тому +2

    This is super cool. I'd love to spend a day with this guy just asking him what else he finds interesting . Also @ 5:00 giggity

  • @gillfortytwo
    @gillfortytwo Рік тому

    This is the coolest demonstration of conic sections I've seen!

  • @tiberiu_nicolae
    @tiberiu_nicolae 2 роки тому +10

    The concentric circles becoming a cone blew my dimension challenged brain

    • @gertjan1710
      @gertjan1710 2 роки тому

      Try some Lorentz transformations next

    • @BooBaddyBig
      @BooBaddyBig 2 роки тому +1

      Circles, ellipses, parabolas, hyperbolas are all referred to as 'conic sections' and are produced from second order powers of x and y.

  • @OnatBas
    @OnatBas 2 роки тому +2

    The sound effect at 1:15 scarred my ears.

  • @ccbgaming6994
    @ccbgaming6994 2 роки тому +2

    “Infinitely touching circles”
    I haven’t heard that since my old college days…

  • @punpcklbw
    @punpcklbw 2 роки тому

    Wicked stuff, seeing how simple the circle tracing algorithm is. Not as intricate as Apollonian gaskets, but definitely shows some interesting patterns.

  • @remek_ember
    @remek_ember 2 роки тому

    This brings back memories, I follow Matt's tumblr since the beginning. Those were the days lol. I loved his animations!

  • @lidular
    @lidular 2 роки тому +1

    The original circle inversion video "epic circles" is probably my favourite numberphile video.

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 2 роки тому +1

    Inversion was the first or second thing I thought of.
    That was cool. The curl was pretty right before it became a circle.

  • @ygalel
    @ygalel 9 місяців тому

    Yep.
    Circular inversion was my point in life where I realized that the world as we see is simply subjective and depending on other perspectives thing may look different for an identical object.

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges 2 роки тому +1

    It tickles my brain that the infinite circles inside of the original circles just emerge from the outside circles through the area constraint.

  • @WZaDproductions
    @WZaDproductions 2 роки тому

    I wrote a paper inspired by the original circle inversion video, I was fascinated by it and the whole new perspective it gave me on math!

  • @sonaxaton
    @sonaxaton 2 роки тому +4

    The Epic Circles video is one of my favorite Numberphile videos ever, cool to see a new take on it!

  • @iteerrex8166
    @iteerrex8166 2 роки тому +1

    So cool! Yet another use of the pantograph. 👍

  • @certainlynotthebestpianist5638
    @certainlynotthebestpianist5638 2 роки тому

    When I saw this line drawing a circle, my brain immediately shouted "PTOLEMY'S THEOREM!" with Prof. Stankova's voice. Oh, that one, it's still my favorite video I've watched in my whole life!

  • @gtziavelis
    @gtziavelis 2 роки тому +7

    Numberphile has a video called "Epic Circles" that is related to this concept, from a while back.

    • @kitlith
      @kitlith 2 роки тому +1

      at roughly 5:40 they go "and what this really is is circle inversion" and throw up the other videos they've mentioned circle inversion in before, including epic circles

  • @thomasbirchall9047
    @thomasbirchall9047 2 роки тому +1

    I'll be honest, I didn't have a clue what was going on. I just liked the animations

  • @witzman
    @witzman 2 роки тому

    Epic circles is the best video on the internet. Mindblowing.

  • @MushookieMan
    @MushookieMan 2 роки тому +1

    I believe it gives a rotated, translated, and possibly mirrored inversion. In ordinary inversion, points drawn on the circle of inversion map to themselves.

  • @lennywintfeld924
    @lennywintfeld924 2 роки тому

    Wonderful! Astonishing.

  • @blahsomethingclever
    @blahsomethingclever 2 роки тому

    Wow the first maths video I didn't understand. And have to watch again and take out a notepad.
    Thank you. I mean it

  • @henrymarkson3758
    @henrymarkson3758 2 роки тому +1

    Matt Henderson, the master of understatement

  • @qzbnyv
    @qzbnyv 2 роки тому +1

    I know this is pretty subdued. But it’s cool. Thanks for sharing! The sounds effects help too btw

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 2 роки тому +1

    Indeed I have not looked at circles the same way since that "epic circles" video.

  • @ArtSeiders
    @ArtSeiders 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @aryst0krat
    @aryst0krat 2 роки тому

    I love him explaining the ripple in water with a computer behind him featuring a ripple in water as its background.

  • @KaiCyreus
    @KaiCyreus 2 роки тому

    i was about to ask if that was circle inversion i was seeing there, turns out it's an even easier way to think of the process, so glad that it was clarified ☆

  • @glenneric1
    @glenneric1 2 роки тому +1

    Have you ever tried to trace out the fourth rectangle point? It looks like it might be making some cool leaf pattern.

  • @ASOUE
    @ASOUE 2 роки тому

    Matt’s voice is so soothing.

  • @JavierSalcedoC
    @JavierSalcedoC 2 роки тому

    remember reading about Apollonius of Perga as a kid, how trying to solve a military problem (stacking shields to make walls) turned into one of the first fractals

  • @eri4108
    @eri4108 2 роки тому

    I draw such circles every time when my teachers start to complain about us. Now I know how to improve that, thanks guys!

  • @gabor6259
    @gabor6259 2 роки тому

    Math continues to amaze me.

  • @williammundy6562
    @williammundy6562 2 роки тому

    Seems like a nice visual proof / demonstration that the arc of an infinitely large circle is a straight line.

  • @eplumer
    @eplumer 2 роки тому

    OK, that was a cool interpretation and visualization of circle inversion

  • @carlosdelossantos5115
    @carlosdelossantos5115 2 роки тому

    8:14 "hands-on", and immediately I see something that looks like a wooden handcuff, holup XD

  • @SaveSoilSaveSoil
    @SaveSoilSaveSoil 2 роки тому

    All of a sudden circles are a lot more beautiful! Don't get me wrong. They were beautiful to begin with, but this is a completely different level!

  • @bomberdan
    @bomberdan 2 роки тому +1

    I didn't know the guy from "You" was on Numberphile videos!

  • @MecchaKakkoi
    @MecchaKakkoi 2 роки тому

    A 3D version (and so on)? Great vid! :)

  • @adrianpadalhin854
    @adrianpadalhin854 2 роки тому +2

    I'm really mesmerized by the "Infinitely Many Touching Circles" part - very, very beautiful pattern. I'm really curious what it would look like if you instead used one of the corners of the fixed-area rectangle to inscribe circles on a non-square grid (triangular or hexagonal?). Would you get the same pattern? I wish I could try this out myself, but I'm not a programmer... sigh.

    • @hatredlord
      @hatredlord 2 роки тому +5

      It's not the same pattern, naturally, but i don't think the difference would be visible without it being pointed out: Consider that every time circles touch, they do so in both "worlds". A triangle pattern above means you have each circle below touching 6 others, rather than 4 as shown. An hexagonal pattern is just the triangular pattern with some gaps, unless i misunderstood you.

  • @AaronQuitta
    @AaronQuitta 2 роки тому +1

    The touching circles remind me a lot of the Poincaré disk model of hyperbolic space.

  • @brokentombot
    @brokentombot 2 роки тому

    I like how he just does just a simple trick yet it really seems pretty genius to a dingdong like me.

  • @Traceuratops12
    @Traceuratops12 2 роки тому

    I immediately thought of the circle inversion video when the circle animation first came up.

  • @DeadJDona
    @DeadJDona 2 роки тому +4

    5:20 what happens if you draw a circle _under_ the line?

    • @riuphane
      @riuphane 2 роки тому +2

      I believe it would create a circle outside the original one... But that's just using my basic understanding and intuition, not actually tested

  • @deliciousrose
    @deliciousrose 2 роки тому

    Funny that this video uploaded after I watched circle inversion video. I was looking for more info about Pappus Chain since it appears in some of Alphonse Mucha's works.

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis 2 роки тому

    I love the beauty of those visualization.
    Perhaps one could use all of their code to training a neural network that does text generation. And see what comes up. The dataset is probably way to small - and even larger datasets probably don't do enough for current methods.
    I am trying the same with webGL shaders from Shadertoy and that has 22k shaders, which might not be enough either.

  • @caraveldrawing9867
    @caraveldrawing9867 2 роки тому

    Didn’t know Andy Murray had a PhD something to fall back on then! No wonder he was always hitting those angles.

  • @Julia68yt
    @Julia68yt 2 роки тому +2

    It doesn't matter how many circles are touching each other ... as long as they're all consenting :D

  • @glenneric1
    @glenneric1 2 роки тому

    I've never seen this. Very cool.

  • @matthewsaulsbury3011
    @matthewsaulsbury3011 2 роки тому

    Wow, this is amazing and fascinating! 👍🏼😀

  • @sayeager5559
    @sayeager5559 2 роки тому

    Longtime fan of Numberphile circle videos.

  • @rubenvela44
    @rubenvela44 2 роки тому +1

    The circle is primary shape with greatest area. The circumference of radius 1⁄π is always 2
    π = 2.9997
    C = 2π (1⁄π) = 2
    ∆ = a⁄π

  • @stevesalt8003
    @stevesalt8003 2 роки тому

    Why are them circles so satisfying? I was craving more circles.

  • @box9283
    @box9283 2 роки тому +9

    What's better than touching circles on weekends?

  • @madeanaccountjus2say
    @madeanaccountjus2say 2 роки тому +1

    this guy out here inventing circles and I can't even tie my shoes

  • @ved9402
    @ved9402 2 роки тому +1

    Did you notice that the set of circles being constructed above line reminds me of Pascal's triangle

  • @muhammadsiddiqui2244
    @muhammadsiddiqui2244 2 роки тому +1

    In my spare time I like making mathematical animations....LoL....and here it would be a full time job for me ...

  • @notagain3732
    @notagain3732 2 роки тому

    The pattern when rotated 90 of the touching circles reminds me of a spiders eyes. Not quites but it is the closest thing i can think of and these panthers usually have a resemblance in nature

  • @scottanderson8167
    @scottanderson8167 2 роки тому +1

    Infinitely many touching gorillas.

  • @NathanChojnacki
    @NathanChojnacki 2 роки тому +1

    this is beautiful

  • @mendelovitch
    @mendelovitch 2 роки тому

    Next get an interview with CodeParade about his upcoming Hyperbolica game, maybe ZenoTheRogue and his Hyperrogue, too.

  • @JocelynDaPrato
    @JocelynDaPrato 2 роки тому

    Thx Matt, really nice!!! Could you do an animation that plunge into the "infinit" circles ?

  • @rudiklein
    @rudiklein 2 роки тому +1

    The more I watch these video's, the more confused and humble I get.

  • @alexross1816
    @alexross1816 2 роки тому

    Don't mind me, just having flashbacks to Conic Sections, Trigonometry, and Calculus classes...
    The horror...

  • @sethgilbertson2474
    @sethgilbertson2474 2 роки тому

    Beautiful!

  • @PEZenfuego
    @PEZenfuego 2 роки тому +1

    It's a square lattice packing though. I really want to see it on a triangular lattice packing.

  • @kyriet9303
    @kyriet9303 2 роки тому

    Hey Matt, at first I thought you are Daniel Sharman (the actor) 😄
    Nice vid, interesting topic 👍

  • @Flesh_Wizard
    @Flesh_Wizard 2 роки тому +2

    I'm thinking of a bubble blower like this. Infinite bubbles :D

  • @sooryanarayana3929
    @sooryanarayana3929 2 роки тому +1

    Now start selling merch with these circles

  • @andrewharrison8436
    @andrewharrison8436 2 роки тому

    A square grid is obvious but it just occured to me that any regular tiling where the inscribed circles touch at the edge would work, triangle, hexagonal or octagonal* would give the same sort of pattern.
    Great fun - enjoyed.
    * Diskworld only

  • @WillToWinvlog
    @WillToWinvlog 2 роки тому

    I read that title and I'm thinking... "That's MY kind of video!"

  • @ramniwassharma900
    @ramniwassharma900 2 роки тому +2

    In India they teach us this in conic section separately, like a whole different chapter

  • @FASTFASTmusic
    @FASTFASTmusic 2 роки тому +1

    I hope physics is watching this. There's something intuitive about it that looks like our could map to space and time but what do I know

  • @aaronsmith6632
    @aaronsmith6632 2 роки тому

    Fascinating! Would be neat to see circle inversion of tesselating hexagons. Does this work in 3D, with len*wid*hgt = 1? Reminds me of hyperbolic mapping.

  • @Lodekac
    @Lodekac 2 роки тому

    Amazing!