The Most Effective TRT Protocols for High Performing Men with Dr. Abraham Morgentaler

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 4 січ 2025

КОМЕНТАРІ • 137

  • @Ron20042004
    @Ron20042004 9 місяців тому +26

    30 or so hours looking over TRT. Best video yet.

    • @allthecommonsense
      @allthecommonsense 7 місяців тому

      Concur

    • @wread1982
      @wread1982 7 місяців тому

      I love it but it gave me sleep apnea so I use a cpap now

    • @allthecommonsense
      @allthecommonsense 7 місяців тому +1

      @@wread1982 I would imagine that is a highly unusual outcome.

  • @hausvonstein
    @hausvonstein Рік тому +41

    After devouring 30+ videos recently, this was some of the best TRT info I have found. Great presentation!

  • @MI40MuscleIntelligence
    @MI40MuscleIntelligence  Рік тому +38

    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro to Dr. Morgentaler
    5:45 Debunking myths around testosterone use.
    11:00 What we learned about men from lizards.
    17:15 Generational decline in male testosterone levels.
    22:30 The discrepancies of lab reference ranges.
    28:00 The problem with "normal" vers us "low" testosterone.
    31:00 Total testosterone versus free testosterone.
    38:30 The defining secret about low testosterone.
    45:00 The scoop on estradiol and anastrazole.
    50:00 TRT and weight gain; why men need estradiol.
    56:00 Weight loss, TRT, drive and motivation.
    1:02:00 What about obesity and TRT?
    1:06:00 Where to learn more from Dr. Morgentaler.

  • @alexadams1627
    @alexadams1627 9 місяців тому +12

    Very underrated video. Dr. Morgentaler was there at the beginning before TRT was a therapy!

    • @mamagic8129
      @mamagic8129 8 місяців тому

      at what time of episode does he speak about the best protocols?

  • @Pest87
    @Pest87 3 місяці тому +6

    There is a third set of men like me: Had average total testosterone in the 500s, 40-50 shbg and normal even in the low half free testosterone. Had all the symptoms and started TRT which immensely improved the quality of my life. It was very difficult and expensive to get it prescribed, consulted with doctors from other continents.
    Now I maintain 1200-1400 total t to feel optimal.

    • @Jaye-HormonesForMe
      @Jaye-HormonesForMe 2 місяці тому +1

      🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
      You beat the system!! Nice!! Isn't it nice being healthy and happy? Better than taking the doctors advice and having obesity, depression and diabetes from bottomed out hormones

    • @RapMan401
      @RapMan401 Місяць тому +1

      Similar to me, mid 40's, tested at 500 but have symptoms. Have a follow up appointment soon to discuss options. This vid cleared alot of questions i had.
      that were making me chop and change between getting TRT or not.

    • @kikefuerte
      @kikefuerte Місяць тому

      How many mg per week?

  • @BrunoBGarcia79
    @BrunoBGarcia79 9 місяців тому +1

    the pacience with small children has been my barrier to TRT and is the first time I hear that it is even better

  • @strobe227
    @strobe227 Місяць тому

    Great job on the interview and letting the guest speak. Thank you

  • @Moped_Mike
    @Moped_Mike 7 місяців тому +14

    14 years ago I started TRT, at that time the reference range was 400-1400, now the same lab says 400-900…

  • @somebb
    @somebb Рік тому +6

    I had low total T and normal mid level free T, lots of symptoms. TRT pushed free T to high normal, no symptoms.

  • @briang.299
    @briang.299 10 місяців тому +12

    If this man ever opened his own clinic he’d be a multimillionaire in no time. He’s obviously the man when it comes to this subject.

    • @GG-wg1yh
      @GG-wg1yh 7 місяців тому +1

      He probably is a consultant for those places. 99% of clinics are for profit business. Usually doctors aren't "business men," but theyre run by them who aren't MDs and consulted by such MDs.

  • @ultanwoods
    @ultanwoods Рік тому +6

    Great interview. Dr Morgentaler is a legend

    • @mamagic8129
      @mamagic8129 8 місяців тому

      at what time of episode does he speak about the best protocols?

  • @kbkesq
    @kbkesq Рік тому +8

    Great discussion on obesity. Doctor says T will give energy and motivation and aid weight loss.

  • @CraigDeitchman
    @CraigDeitchman Рік тому +6

    Dr. Morgontaler is right on from what I can see from trial on my own body. I was 315lbs, I did have Gastric Sleeve Surgery 7 years ago, I have maintained a weight of 170lbs to 180lbs for the last 6 years. My protocol weight training, crossfit, 5k's as well as taking Testosterone, HCG and Anostrozole.

  • @TheIgnacio777
    @TheIgnacio777 Місяць тому

    Great questions to a great speaker👍

  • @MN-wg8qd
    @MN-wg8qd 7 місяців тому +2

    I got a lot of acne on anastrozole trying to keep E2 at 22pg/mL. My skin is way better after stopping anastrozole and letting E2 (ultrasensitive) sit in the 50s/60s with a TT around 600-700 and FT near max range. Noticed I'm a lot more vascular too and feel just fine.

  • @otaznikvykricnik5961
    @otaznikvykricnik5961 4 місяці тому +1

    I never do stupid comments like this, but this time I can't help myself:
    Great video 👍👍👍 Big thank you🙏🙏🙏
    You are better than Derek MPMD and Andrew Huberman together.

  • @coldseamonster
    @coldseamonster Рік тому +14

    This is a grossly underwatched interview. Tier 1 info here from a doctor that is the world’s foremost leader in research on this topic.

  • @luiso.9103
    @luiso.9103 7 місяців тому

    Here so its recommended again in my feed.
    16:04 Correlation while on testosterone can decrease Prostate CA
    23:08 Reference Values Explained

  • @Whatcha_Gonna_Do
    @Whatcha_Gonna_Do Місяць тому

    I'm a 64 y/o male. There are two Free Testosterone values on my recent VA labs, Free (Calc) at 105.0 pg/mL and Free and WKLY Bound at 231 ng/dl and Total Testosterone (S/O) at 8.80 ng/mL which is high according to the reference of (2.80-8.00) My SHBG is also high at 84 mol/L. with a reference of (10-80) My VA Doctor says my Testosterone levels are great, no problem, yet I'm constantly exhausted, losing muscle mass, drive, motivation...

  • @NYGuy2000
    @NYGuy2000 Рік тому +12

    He says from 27:25 onwards that the young guys have peak morning testosterone at about 500, and the mid-aged guys around 400 - 450. This is VERY different from the narrative pushed by social media and TRT clinics, according to which you are dead meat if you are under 800. His statement should have huge consequences for millions of men. I already feel much better. :)

    • @quantumfx2677
      @quantumfx2677 Рік тому +6

      I was always in the high 700s in my thirties and depends on how the person feels in the 500s if you feel fine and happy with that's great, it wasn't until my late 40s my testosterone dropped and started TRT at age 53 now 54 and my testosterone is around 890 and feel fantastic.

    • @M.F.Gamesta
      @M.F.Gamesta Рік тому +1

      That's total as opposed to free.

    • @zmb5501
      @zmb5501 Рік тому +2

      Young guys don't take care of themselves. That number is skewed.

    • @otaznikvykricnik5961
      @otaznikvykricnik5961 4 місяці тому

      I wish I was at 400 😢

    • @Jaye-HormonesForMe
      @Jaye-HormonesForMe 2 місяці тому

      @@otaznikvykricnik5961 are you in the usa? Anything under 600 is going to be awful. Try reaching out to an online clinic and getting your total to between 700 and 900 and see how you feel

  • @wokka6850
    @wokka6850 Рік тому +2

    Extremely helpful information. Thanks for organising this podcast Ben.
    I suspect for many people, getting an accurate testosterone reading is the first challenge. Depending on where you live, the second challenge may be getting TRT prescribed.
    It would also be good to know if those with a past history of any type of cancer is a contraindication to preclude TRT being used.

    • @tazcastellano8076
      @tazcastellano8076 Рік тому +4

      An informative video from an expert in the field but enlightening as well ,taken to the fact the history of wrongfully executed treatment and trial and error processes by so called “experts” in the field. Research, education and analysis not blind obedience is an important factor that comes out of this interview. Kudos to his unwavering dedication.

  • @gburn9377
    @gburn9377 Рік тому +43

    I take 100mg every four days. I've never felt like this in my whole life.

    • @qsdailydose8970
      @qsdailydose8970 Рік тому +4

      Do you take anything to control e2? What supplements?

    • @30minutesLess
      @30minutesLess Рік тому +1

      Lol same

    • @DionysiosGiannopopulos
      @DionysiosGiannopopulos Рік тому +12

      I'm 55 yo 3 years on trt 150mg pw split in two .. feeling great, libido,strength, stamina all dramatically improved..!!

    • @saulocerqueiradealmeida9700
      @saulocerqueiradealmeida9700 10 місяців тому +4

      This is not a physiological dose. It's not sustainable unfortunately. I know the feeling tho.

    • @GaryBeal-doingmorewithless
      @GaryBeal-doingmorewithless 8 місяців тому +3

      I'm sorry to hear that bro. TRT isn't for everyone.

  • @davida428
    @davida428 10 місяців тому +2

    I would have like to hear him speak about Hemoglobin and hematocrit levels when taking testosterone.

    • @shanecollins863
      @shanecollins863 3 місяці тому +1

      Hematocrit levels are only concerning if you have a platelet disorder. People living in Peru have hematocrit levels of 60.

  • @robertkraychik1884
    @robertkraychik1884 Рік тому +1

    fantastic information. thank you, gentlemen.

  • @ods1ODS
    @ods1ODS 2 місяці тому

    I have/had significantly elevated SHBG. I used nettle extract for a month or so. It did nothing to lower SHBG but interestingly, it drove estrogen or estradiol (i cant remember) down to single digits. Very low. Subjective experience i didnt notice anything to accompany this.

  • @mmkcarrasco
    @mmkcarrasco 2 місяці тому

    I was disappointed that the producer cut off Dr Morgenteler in the middle of his explanation of the VA study published in JAMA in 2013 and he couldn’t finish his sentence.

  • @amitmor392
    @amitmor392 8 місяців тому +1

    Excellent discussuion. Thank You ! Dr. Amit Mor

  • @JoshNulled
    @JoshNulled 10 місяців тому +1

    I agree with everything he says but I think total t is a very big indicator as well as free. I have low normal free and low total and have symptoms. Not a dr but just based off of my feelings

  • @rodneyharris5606
    @rodneyharris5606 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video

  • @mamagic8129
    @mamagic8129 8 місяців тому +2

    at what time of episode does he speak about the best protocols?

  • @Jaye-HormonesForMe
    @Jaye-HormonesForMe 2 місяці тому

    I need to express my opinion regarding the intro. He is implying that hypogonadism has no symptoms as long as Shbg is low enough to get free t into range. Let's see how he feels with SHBG of 2 and TT of 150 ngdL. SHBG has important functions. People need a healthy ratio of shbg and testosterone, with shbg being in a good range first. Testosterone has a long list of benefits that cannot be fully captured at the low levels he is advocating for.

  • @martdag1950
    @martdag1950 Рік тому

    Awesome episode

  • @benbower8918
    @benbower8918 6 місяців тому

    I recently heard that estrogen is the reason for prostate cancer high estrogen in men so if they do take it they need to take an AI. The reason guys without testosterone therapy in their later years get it is because their estrogen is higher than their testosterone probably I'm totally guessing I just read an article in theory

  • @tompeterinDC
    @tompeterinDC Рік тому +1

    Question about Enclomiphene is answered with Clomid…

    • @bssitsmmsunrr
      @bssitsmmsunrr 9 місяців тому

      I'm sure the interviewer asked about hcg and clomiphene and not enclomiphene?

  • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
    @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 6 місяців тому

    Nice video, Ive not heard of this DR, but I like that he isnt living in the stone age even though he is older than me.
    He also looks healthy, and I think that says a lot about a DR that we are willing to pout our trust into.

  • @BMill88
    @BMill88 4 місяці тому

    My dad is in his 60’s and has prostrate cancer. Would him taking trt exacerbate it or help it? Maybe a stupid question but idk. Any science on this?

  • @flymofoisthebest3885
    @flymofoisthebest3885 Рік тому +7

    Uk doctors dont have a clue, they tried to give me 250mg sust once every 3 weeks! Love this podcast always listsen to it before bed, cheers!

    • @pinkedhypnotherapy485
      @pinkedhypnotherapy485 Рік тому +7

      Tell your Endo and nurse that you will handle the injections yourself. I pin 40mg twice weekly with insulin pins. Im more than happy with my blood levels, although my Endo constantly complains about my Free level being too high, I just remind him that all of blood markers are perfect, and as a really active 51 year old, im very happy with them.

    • @fatmike01
      @fatmike01 Рік тому

      @@pinkedhypnotherapy485where do you pin with insulin needles?

    • @otaznikvykricnik5961
      @otaznikvykricnik5961 4 місяці тому

      250mg/3weeks is exactly the proper dose, how Sustanon is registered by authorities in all European countries. This is what the manufacturer requested.

    • @dennisdavis3564
      @dennisdavis3564 3 місяці тому

      ​@@otaznikvykricnik5961there is no one size fits all Sport

  • @alexpanting4177
    @alexpanting4177 11 місяців тому

    Sod trt as long as your estradiol pathways are working celebrate, I struggle making estrogen even on trt

    • @steven21736
      @steven21736 2 місяці тому

      What's your estradiol levels?

  • @davidetre
    @davidetre 6 місяців тому +5

    Title : The best TRT protocols ... and they don't talk about the best TRT protocols
    🤦‍♂

  • @roguejimo736
    @roguejimo736 Рік тому +1

    Dr. Neal Rouzier is the man

    • @MegaMarky82
      @MegaMarky82 6 місяців тому

      Been following him and dr
      .nichols for years. 20% cream is the way to go

  • @pearljameric
    @pearljameric 6 місяців тому

    I can't believe he didn't touch on enclomiphene (not clomid. Without zuclomiphene)

  • @tk4084
    @tk4084 Рік тому +5

    Hmm, I don't know how to feel about the average total testosterone levels in young men being 500 and 400-500 for mid age.
    Makes me feel like I made a mistake getting on myself then, I was averaging 350-420 and a free t of 7-8. I feel waaaay better now though. So I duno. Currently sitting at tt-720 FT-23 on trough.

    • @NYGuy2000
      @NYGuy2000 Рік тому +5

      I posted a similar comment a few days before you did. Since the testosterone topic is both hugely emotional and profitable, we cannot expect only honest information. Here is my explanation: Of course, one feels better at 800 than at 450, at least short-term. However, as Huberman puts it, "growth means aging". So, by getting your T to supraphysiological levels, you may pull forward your energy reserves, from 20 years from now to today, possibly at the expense of our health in 20 years. TRT at mass scale is still relatively young, so we do not know the long-term effect. Bro science and TRT clinics don't care about our long-term health.

    • @tk4084
      @tk4084 Рік тому +9

      @NYGuy2000 I very much understand where your coming from it's hard to say exactly how it's going to effect people in the masses very long term however testosterone therapy has been around since the 1930s and there are a number of men on it for decades without issues (20-40 years).
      I have seen the data showing the change in average testosterone levels in the US and they are undeniably going down, along with sperm counts in men.
      Personally I haven't felt better in all my life, more so on how testosterone has effected me on a psychological level. My depression has subsided I am no longer irritable and easily agitated, I am calm and collected for the most part, anxiety has very much improved. I'm not doing this for an appearance thing, I just want a quality life and data has shown low testosterone to be more detrimental to men's health as we age so it makes me feel good that I'm being proactive in my health I suppose. I would say anything over the lab ranges to be super physiologic so I can see Hubermans point if kept over the ranges could potentially rob energy output years down the road and therfor having potential consequences in the future.
      I guess there is one sure fact in life that we are all going to die one day so why not try to make the best of it if we can.

    • @NYGuy2000
      @NYGuy2000 Рік тому +3

      @@tk4084 I totally get the psychological and the brain health effects of higher T. That's what would make it attractive to me. "Testosterone makes effort feel good" (Huberman).
      Considering the ranges Morgentaler mentioned, were T levels truly so much higher 20 or 30 years ago? I am not downplaying the negative impact of endocrine disruptors via food, air, and skin (e. g. in the coating on inside of pizza cartons to prevent leaking, hand sanitizers, skin care, ...), but aren't we just following a narrative about higher T decades ago?

    • @tk4084
      @tk4084 Рік тому +3

      @NYGuy2000 See this is one thing I haven't yet experienced, T making effort feel good. I feel the same as I always have in that regard besides being a little more focused on certain tasks.
      I don't think it's just endocrine disrupters I'm sure it has alot to do with lifestyle itself. Sedentary lifestyle with a lack of exercise and poor diet coupled with high amounts of stress. Studies have shown testosterone has been declining in men over the last few decades, Its showing how sick the population is getting with lifestyle & environmental factors and I think it's going to continue moving forward. the only thing we can do as an individual is take appropriate measures to ensure our own health. Definitely not doom and gloom but I think it could get ugly way into the future.

    • @NYGuy2000
      @NYGuy2000 Рік тому +2

      @@tk4084 Totally agree.

  • @lesvenola2380
    @lesvenola2380 Рік тому

    Very interesting thank you.

  • @roguejimo736
    @roguejimo736 Рік тому +5

    Morgenthaler never even mentioned normal versus optimal testosterone levels. Nor did he talk about androgen receptor sensitivity. Disappointing.

    • @otaznikvykricnik5961
      @otaznikvykricnik5961 4 місяці тому

      Nice topics for the next video.
      For me they covered enough.

  • @fitdoc565
    @fitdoc565 Рік тому +1

    Pretty basic information, but most of the male public will benefit from hearing this

  • @HDSPMwithJR
    @HDSPMwithJR 7 місяців тому

    One of the best interviewers in the TRT space, good work.

  • @kennethmorillo7312
    @kennethmorillo7312 10 місяців тому +2

    If you have all symptons and have Total Testosterone low ,you have to do TRT. Just simply like that.Every decade Testosterone it goes logre and lower .In my clinic I offer TRT ,to improve patient health with sexual dysfunction .

    • @Pawanchib1914
      @Pawanchib1914 6 місяців тому

      If someone takes 25 MG weekly, can we have side effects

    • @DG_PHG
      @DG_PHG 6 місяців тому

      @@Pawanchib191425mg?! What would that do as a weekly dose? Or do you mean daily?

  • @claudrebille178
    @claudrebille178 Рік тому +9

    The intro s too long

    • @steveaustin5344
      @steveaustin5344 Рік тому

      Spelling & punctuation s too unconventional. Just busting your balls. Yeah I agree, short intro would be better. The content is pure gold though.

    • @ericalvarez3953
      @ericalvarez3953 8 місяців тому

      Just fast forward lmao. Smh, this isn't tv, lol. If they talk slow, I speed up the playback speed, I don't leave a comment like the world revolves around me. 😂

  • @RichRobinson
    @RichRobinson 6 місяців тому

    Ben is the man.

  • @hubriswonk
    @hubriswonk 3 місяці тому

    Testosterone creates motivation and makes effort feel good! TRT is a no btainer for men who healthy enough to take it and doctors and the general public need to understand this. Too many people are stuck on the ridiculous propaganda of the 80's when the Federal government made it a crime.
    My TRT works best when my Total T is at or above 1000 and Free T is above 200. I do not concern myself with Estrodiol. Men on TRT must control their diet and eat clean, exercise, and continuously monitor their blood work.
    Buy the ticket, take the ride!

  • @Nogi-aka-DJNugz
    @Nogi-aka-DJNugz 3 місяці тому

    TRT will motivate you to get moving - when you are fatigued you can’t do anything

  • @brianmccarthy6189
    @brianmccarthy6189 6 місяців тому

    1:06:59 1:06:59

  • @angelcolon8004
    @angelcolon8004 7 місяців тому

    Hummm let me see mineral a good quality salt would do would do and I'm pretty sure you save a couple of bucks

  • @kapdolkim1914
    @kapdolkim1914 8 місяців тому

    This is how F'ed up our medicine is. Science is ignored. Common sense is ignored.
    And once you put billions in profit in the mix, Statins happen.
    When I was premed (changed mind and did not go to Med school) half of my classmates were morons. And these went on to become doctors.
    Obviously Dr. Morgentaler is one of the sharp ones. But he is swimming up stream.

  • @WereAllThatBored
    @WereAllThatBored 10 місяців тому

    The medical community is missing out on millions in revenue because men like myself do not "meet the criteria"

  • @mojo8152
    @mojo8152 4 місяці тому

    💯👍👍👍👍

  • @desijattdj
    @desijattdj 6 місяців тому

    Why does Ben look like sucked up and like he’s on chemo or dialysis?

  • @joerobberechts4547
    @joerobberechts4547 Рік тому +1

    Please, in future podcasts make it more of a conversation and go a little back and forth. It felt a lot like an interview for a job. And at the end you cut off his spiel on T and heart disease, which wasn’t finished.

    • @Ron20042004
      @Ron20042004 9 місяців тому

      I loved the format. The doc is brilliant. I want to hear him and not someone who knows as much as I already do. Point taken though but I guess it’s a preference thing

  • @philipm33
    @philipm33 7 місяців тому +1

    Holy crap Ben sounds like a cross between Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson

  • @jackfahey4610
    @jackfahey4610 Рік тому

    Appreciate the video but over 15 min ignored

  • @mikeduregger9113
    @mikeduregger9113 9 місяців тому

    There was Never really a discussion about ACTIONs men could take to naturally help their testosterone levels. The Doctor was kinda boring and I don’t think I would want the book after listening to this.

    • @otaznikvykricnik5961
      @otaznikvykricnik5961 4 місяці тому

      If the title says TRT, don' expect "natural" ways to increase testosterone.
      To satisfy your lust after information, there are 2 ways I know:
      1) seeing/smelling sexually attractive person
      2) sleep
      Everything else is UNnatural.

  • @dennisdavis3564
    @dennisdavis3564 3 місяці тому

    Get this Dr with moreplatesmoredates guy...

  • @rey3472
    @rey3472 Рік тому +2

    Proviron. Danazol.

    • @bssitsmmsunrr
      @bssitsmmsunrr 9 місяців тому

      Can you say a few more words about what you mean, good sir? I have seen those names on the lists of my local suppliers but not sure what exactly they can do. Please provide your experience.

    • @brianmccarthy6189
      @brianmccarthy6189 6 місяців тому

      ​@bast 1:06:59 ianm5478