Is Christmas a Midwinter Pagan Festival (Yule)?
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
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Does Christmas originate from a Pagan Midwinter festival? This exploration has been a fascinating journey, and I can't wait for you to join me in it!
In this video, I delve into:
- The historical transformation from Pagan Midwinter celebrations, like the Roman Saturnalia and Norse Yule, to the Christian Nativity.
- The role of the Winter Solstice in these ancient cultures.
- The intriguing choice of December 25th, a date deeply connected with Pagan solstice festivities, as the birthdate of Christ.
🔮 Spoiler alert: It's not as straightforward as you might think! While there are undeniable connections between Christmas and pre-Christian Pagan festivals, the evolution of this beloved holiday is complex and multifaceted. The integration of Pagan elements, including aspects of Yule, into Christmas reveals a rich tapestry of influences that extend beyond a simple one-to-one transition from Paganism to Christianity.
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00:00 Introduction Christmas or Yule origins
00:58 Support Angela’s Symposium
01:52 Collaboration with Let’s Talk Religion
02:19 The historical links between Xmas and Midwinter Festivals
05:31 When was the Roman winter solstice exactly?
06:44 The Saturnalia in Rome / Sol Invictus
07:18 Saturnalia replaced by Nativity Celebrations
08:15 Council of Tours Nativity to Epiphany a festival cycle
08:35 12 Days of Christmas established
09:52 British & Irish Paganism show no solar deities
10:41 Ireland has a 12 Day Xmas celebration
13:31 First use of the term Cristes Maessan or Christmas
13:57 The term Yule is introduced to Britain
14:53 Scandinavian Winter Celebrations
16:48 The Endurance of European Winter Festivals
18:13 Welsh Annual Midwinter Feasts
18:45 Evidence of the marking of pre-Christian Solstice and New Year
19:41 Happy Mid-Winter Festival
19:53 Support Angela’s Symposium
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Amazing work! Always an honor to work together.
Love seeing the collabs on this corner of youtube (the "philosophy, history and religious studies angle on spirituality and religion from orthodox to heterodox and mysticism, esotericism, the occult, etc" corner of youtube lol which is quite a mouthful), every time two or more of your little niche get together on something it is a real treat.
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Found you from "let's talk religion". U do great work too!! 🎉 Thanks!! From Memphis Tennessee USA 💕
Without getting into some rather lengthy details, the idea that Christmas is pagan comes from die-hard Protestant fundamentalists in the seventeenth, eighteenth, and nineteenth centuries. In those centuries, many Protestants regarded holidays like Christmas and Easter as “popery” and therefore sought to discredit them by linking them with ancient paganism in any way they could. The idea that Christmas might be pagan was advanced as early as 1648 in the work _Certain Queries Touching the Rise and Observation of Christmas,_ written by the Puritan Joseph Heming. Later fundamentalist writers took the idea and ran with it.
Christmas was celebrated Dec. 25 prior to any pagan celebration on the same date.
When we celebrate Christmas (and other holidays as well), we are definitely participating in a tradition with deep historical roots. But those traditions are firmly situated in the medieval Christian past, not an ancient pagan one.
The earliest attested date for the celebration of Sol Invictus is 274 AD, but it wasn't originally celebrated on December 25th. As mentioned, there is evidence to suggest Sol Invictus was originally observed as early as August or October and was only later changed to December 25th as a possible way for the Romans to counter Christians celebrating Christmas.
According to the Liber Pontificalis, Pope St. Telesphorus (125-136) instituted the tradition of celebrating midnight Mass, which means Christmas was already being celebrated. St. Theophilus (AD 115-181), bishop of Caesarea, stated, “We ought to celebrate the birthday of Our Lord on what day soever the 25th of December shall happen.” [Magdeburgenses, de orign Festorum Chirstianorum].
However, there is some conjecture of whether or not the above additions to these books/manuscripts were very early (c. 600 AD) "additions" to the texts (i.e., they were 'forged' into the texts to evidence an early date for Christmas).
Even if that is indeed the case, both Hippolytus of Rome (AD 170-240) and Clement of Alexandria (AD 153-217) commented on December 25th as the celebration of the birth of Jesus. So even if Theophilus never said the above quote, not long after his dates, Hyppolytus and Clement both commented on December 25.
In short, it's quite possible Christmas was already being celebrated by Christians by the early 2nd century AD which would seem to predate Sol Invictus.
So are you saying the holiday and traditions of Yule (they are pre-Christian) didn’t translate to Christmas? Yule is the winter solstice celebration, Christmas wa chosen as December 25th- sounds more like to me that the Christians were trying to convert pagans and wipe out their beliefs by slowly integrating the pagan traditions into Christendom.
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Very interesting as always!
Happy midwinter festival of choice to one and all 😉🎄⭐️
Stunning video and great comment on the way that culture and ritual develops. As a protestant, it's very funny to observe fundie protestants rail against things like Christmas trees since we invented that. Culture rejecting its own inventions in favor of a mythologized origin is such a trip.
I was sent by the most honourable Filip from Let's talk religion. Nice video! 🌲
We’re all way more connected that some would like to admit. Have a beautiful winter everyone 🎄🪵
Saw the whole video. It makes since. The early to latter medieval Christian sources were incomplete and just didn't know what went on in the pre-Christian past. So, we don't fully know how much of the pre-Christian past is in our current Christmas holiday 🌲🎋⭐🌟🌠
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Probably the whole evergreen tree, reindeer, jolly old man with a team of elves thing.. that probably had nothing to do with a dude in the Middle East.
@dayofthejackyl that's particularly true if you compare Jewish mythology because they don't seem to have concepts of fae or elves. I say this as a practicing Christian.
@@dayofthejackyl all of those have a lot more to do with Victorian period romantic interpretations of theoretical pre-christian practice. So christians interpreting christians speculating pagan activities.
@@TheLeftwheel do you have a source for that? Are you implying that none of this is derived from pre-Christian practices? Do you think pre-Christian Europeans had no midwinter festivities?
Edit: or not even midwinter.. the winter solstice? Do you think pre-Christian Europeans did nothing to recognize the time of the winter solstice?
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The churchman Martin of Braga telling off my ancestors in mid 6th century Galicia in his 'De Correctione Rusticorum' - 'on the correction of the rustic people' is very upset that the locals still observe the new year on the Calends of January (which he regards as a 'completely false' date) instead of his 'correct' Christian date of March 25th. He wasn't very happy either that people continued to worship roman deities and light candles by rocks, trees, springs and crossroads, or that they called the days of the week by the names of roman gods (he had some success stamping out the latter one as even today in Portugal - though not really in Galicia itself - the days of the week are given numerical names). I guess he wouldn't be too happy to know that the Calends of January is still regarded as New Year's day all these centuries later, or that some of us rusticorum have once again taken up the old roman religion! Thankfully we live in more inclusive times and so all of us can ensure that our Saturnalia, Christmas, Yule, Hanukah etc are, as the late roman republic poet Catullus said: 'the best of days'.
Gracias for this fascinating and informative video. I really appreciate the nuance you present of the fusion and synchronicity of Pagan and early Christian traditions. So many love to characterize modern Christmas celebrations of just being 100% rebranded Paganism or Christians claiming Everything about xmas is 100% from Jesus & the church when the truth is far more intertwined, complex and interesting. ⭐
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came here according to the recommendation in Let´s talk religion, but know you from your interview with Prof. Ronald Hutton. Thank you for your good work - and happy winter-celebrations! 🌲🕯🕯🕯🕯🔥🎆
Thx Doc. Can't believe I never noted the similarity of Yule and Jolly before. Always learning something from you.🎆
🎉fascinating. so many fun details. mistletoe for one. Super Thanks. Beautiful 🌴
⭐️🎄⭐️ Thank you for sharing this fascinating history!
🌟 I came from Let's Talk Religion. Great video.
Happy Mid - winter festival. 🎄⭐️
🎄⭐Very interesting video Dr. Puca, thank you!
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Happy and joyful Midwinter! Keep the fire up! 🔥🎄
Thank you for this video such great info and opens our minds to past history! 🌲All the best for the Season! ⭐
Thank you very much. This is responsible research, very well done. Needless to say that I like your channel.
🌲🌲😃 Yes, madam! Amazing video! Thank you for sharing such interesting historic facts! I wish you a blessed winter season! 😃🌲🌲
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For this explanation Angela, wishing you a happy Saturnalia and a happy Sol Invictus. It will be delightful to hear these wishes often. Christ , from the best of my knowledge, was not born on the 25th December.
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Happy mid-winter (northern hemisphere) festive season. ⭐🌟🎄
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Its my birthday on the Solstice. Weirdly I do not eat meat during the year. But for a few days from Winter solstice I do. It feals fine. But it does not feel good rest of the year dlDuring Solstices and equinoxes time seems to stop. The mind calms down. Amazing times of the year to be yourself.
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It's a bit pedantic to zoom in on a single word but I wouldn't say it's a unique phenomenon. Syncretism is normal when religions coexist or otherwise interact with each other (to various extents). Allhallowtide is famously another example specifically of Christian and pre-Christian festivals bleeding together.
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