Hopefully , I’ve been using Percs since 2012 when someone first gave it to me I puked everytime the time I didn’t vomit I being to like it and use it recreational now I start paying and using every dollar on them I just had a newborn I’m on a path to distruction and i Have been battling all day to go and buy some pills just to hold on but then I’m trying to stay strong minded but I don’t wanna be screwed in the night time at 6pm it will be 24 hrs for me hopefully I can survive this mission god bless
I went to detox in 2020 for heroin/fentanyl use and I only went there to get Suboxone. I never got it, and had to kick the old fashion way...sweating while being ice cold, shivering with a fever, no bowel control, having to pee ever 10 minutes, no sleep, restless legs and arms.... I am so SO glad I had to do it that way. I went on to a PHP program, and into an IOP program with sober living. Now I'm a member of AA, I have an apartment, a newborn and I now work in treatment trying to help the next ones, they way I was helped and guided Edit/update. We just bought a house.
Thank you for sharing, I pinned this, hoping this can provide some hope to other viewers and readers. Keep up the good fight, awesome that you are there for your newborn. Much blessings and good wishes to your family, you, your newborn.
The absolute worst pain and suffering I've ever been through was trying to kick fentanyl. Went through detox and rehab so many times to just go right back and do it all over. Coming up on 5 years clean, I got my life back. If I can do it, you can too.
That is a major accomplishment and you should be proud as hell!!! Congrats on your 5 years. Keep pushing forward. It's people like you that help others!!! I truly hope you are proud of yourself....im proud of you!!!
Good glad for you I started using for constipation I have got a problem then add Brazos and alcohol I cannot give over with them for pain and got court today
I have the utmost respect for people with the courage to go through this to change their life for the better. If anyone reading this is in the midst of Withdrawal, I'm rooting so hard for you. Stay strong, battle, you will come out the other side infinitely better, healthier and happy.
Oxycontin is safe according Mr Sackler of Perdue, it were the half a million Americans that passed away that were just criminals said Mr Sackler, Mr Sackler now has 15 Billion dollars and laughs at the system of justice.
Fighting stage 4 liver/colon cancer. Was one around 220mg’s/day. I didn’t realize the power, and decided to stop. Done with cancer, done with these pills. It was hell, but I managed like 10 full days of zero painkillers. But then realized 1) my quality of life was suffering, the pain from the cancer was loud and clear. So I started back up, but at a much lower dose. I can’t wait for this absolute hell, once I beat this cancer.
i guess there isn't much i can say except that i wish you all the best in the world you can get to help you out of your situation and much strength on your way!!! hang in there pls!
I WOULD SAY IF YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS LOW DUE TO PAIN AND OTHER SYMPTOMS OF CANCER WHY NOT GIVE YORSELF SOME RELIEF. THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A DECENT QUALITY OF LIFE IS BETTER THAN SUFFERING ENDLESSLY. IF THE PILLS ARE MAKING LIFE WORTH LIVING, THEN WHY NOT GIVE YOURSELF THE ABILITY TO AT LEAST FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.
Alsolook David Straight up, he teaches people allot of his knowledge that he's gained over the years. He's studied law for over 35 years. And he is who I heard about the pH level..
I just relapsed after 6 years of opiate sobriety. Not only am I now "resetting" my sobriety, but the withdrawal nightmare has started again and I just feel like a total failure. Addiction never ends
My Dr over prescribed opioids for my back injury that resulted in spinal fusion. OxyContin, opana, fentanyl (oral and the patch). After 8 years of dr prescribed addiction I detoxed my self at home in 2011. Horrible detox!!! Pure hell but worth it! By God’s grace I’m still here and haven’t relapsed EVER! Prayers for anyone going through that hell!!♥️🙏
I made the mistake of going from Opana,oxy, vikes to suboxone. This detox is even worse. It should have been used for short term. But these awesome Dr's love to dose.
I was the Medical Director of a Substance Abuse Treatment Program more than 30 years ago. And the battle has not changed. The only thing we had to work with was Methadone for the most part to help. Our colleagues looked down on us because they felt we were addicting them to yet another drug. But watching these folks pull there lives together slowly but surely, and even get off the Methadone, build homes and families. I knew we were doing some good.
@@markaprill6501noo ! I was told that in 2003 and i stay on it for 19 years the worst drug to detox if you get to a high dose for years its almost impossible to detox and the whitdraws are for ever ,i detox methadone 15 years ago and i still feel like shit no peces what so ever and i was clean all those years i don't even smoke.
Money every aspect of this medicine is connected to money. I'd like to find an old Indian who has tools to get me off this, keep me feeling no effects of withdrawals. A plan that actually works, and works good! No set backs. 2024 and the western civilization cannot find a better way? All I see is money made being made and people suffering.
Anyone who hasn't experienced this should try to have a little compassion for someone dealing with this. (set aside the fact that they put themselves there in the first place, they're quitting, give them some credit) Going through the withdrawals is extremely painful. It's all of these symptoms that you hear about, 10 times what you've ever felt. When you hear the fact that these symptoms last for a week... it's the whole week. Because you can't sleep, you feel this 24hrs a day for 7 days. This, right here, is the reason I and other people I know always have had a hard time quitting. If I could sleep that off even just for a few hours of each day it could be manageable, but there is no break from these symptoms. That's what makes it so difficult..
CORRECT BRO...I was not a so called user...I damaged my lower back...3 upper and 2 lower by the tail bone...BONE SPURS...AAARRRGGGHHHHH...BUT ALL THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO THAT HAD SPINE SURGURY SAID IT AINT WORTH IT !!! 6 MONTHS AFTER...YOUR IN SAME BACK PAIN!!! OK...NOT 4 ME...SO MY DR WAS VERY GOOD...HE GAVE ME WHAT I ASKED FOR...EVEN FENTYNAL PATCHES...DANG...GOOD STUFF...BUT FINALLY GOT OFF THOSE BECAUSE OVER DOSERS BACK EAST WERE DYING & ABUSING THEM...SO POTUS STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE & HALTED USE...
@@suzybearheart530 keep going after 5 days they ease and it just lingers. Im 2 month off methadone and its lingering now. No aches just bad stomach n anxiety and bouts of cold sweats. Please keep going it gets so much better.
@@adzgee7 I gave in on the third night and had a small cup of poppyseed tea. It was the best sleep ever. But now I gotta start all over again. I'm so mad at myself for failing. I think I'm going to try and taper this time instead of going cold turkey. Plus, I'll take a few days off work that way if I don't sleep all night again I don't have to worry about being productive the next day.
@@suzybearheart530 few days off work? You need at least 6 month off. I couldnt work doing this ive got another 12 months on sickness and disability before i need to work again. Im over 2 month off methadone and im still bad. Please try again after tapering right down. Took me 6 attempts
On point about the anxiety part!!! I kept hearing in my head the storm was coming. Did it!!!! I took one to two pain pills a day for 18 months because of a hip problem. I had a massive panic attack one day and within two to three days I never took another one and then the anxiety hit!!! Panic attack after panic attack. I had no physical symptoms just mental and I can tell you this by far has been one of the most horrible seasons in my life!!!! I’m still trying to get my life back after all this! Prayers to anyone going through this! I pray to God all day everyday to give me the strength to walk through this!!
I saw his post on Alcohol Withdrawal. Something I went through, but learned to ask for medical assistance because it was not only hell, it was deadly. 26 years after my last drink, I have great sympathy for anyone caught in addiction of any kind. I wish all healthcare workers from Doctors to CNA’s knew about addiction medicine.
My husband is about to go in for a 6 week inpatient treatment for 20 years of prescribed opioid use. I hate the doctors for even starting him on these. I'm so so proud of him for making this step. Seeing the comments have helped me understand what he's about to go through.
I’m confused……why was he on them 20 years? And what do tithe experts give? Methadone? (Adolphine - synthetic morphine Hitler’s psychopaths came up with - addicting; longer detox-now suboxone - addicting; longer withdrawal……..what’s wrong with basically putting them to sleep for 3 days (average withdrawal off pvrcacets; maybe 5 to put them on a ‘LEGAL’ drug.that takes longer (people stay on those for years…At ridiculously high doses…….I see MONEY……and we have a long way to go……these doctors need better training…..wean people way too fast……and we wonder why we have a fentanyl problem when some states are threatening doctors with jail……so now they’re afraid to write prescriptions……I just read that in 2017 fentanyl was the 235th highest prescribed opiate……no on and I mean no one need that kind of pain relief outside of a hospital. Doctors should learn to wean people off slowly (if client suffer long term pain) to less and lower dosages……..what a tragic mess 😩
How he could do it? Csn u please explain it? My lover is going through this situation upto 3 weeks, He want to stop it. Bt he can't.Can u please explain how it can be done?
I went through it yesterday and last night was one of the worst times I have went through. I have a disease of my pancreas that is incredibly painful. I have to take hydro. every day. On top of this I fell and fractured my hip. I ran out Sunday morning. And last night I was in such pain I wanted to hurt myself. But I made it through to this morning. My doctor refilled my meds today. Withdrawal is the worst thing I have ever had to deal with. I pray that everyone who goes through it comes out safe.
Opioid withdrawal is one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever been through, and I have a lot of painful physical conditions. There's just no way that the words "nausea, insomnia, sweating, chills, etc" can do it justice. It's like the worst fever you've ever had, but multiplied by 100. You just cannot get comfortable no matter what you do. At least that's how it was for me on a full agonist, but more mild ones definitely aren't as bad, but that full-blown opioid withdrawal is so, so horrible.
liquid hands cuffs made me feels like that the good ole 'methadone but nothing else had withdraws like that drugs .... it wil beat the strongest of people. just how long the withdraws are.
I have heard other junkies say that addicts learn to exaggerate the symptoms for sympathy. I think that Hollywood has made the effects more severe as a case of life imitating art gone bad.
I quit H with Subutex, I quit Subutex again with H and then back to subutex... Now i'm on methadone for the Last 15yrs, got my life back and being a functioning part of society. I dont think I Will ever quit and im fine with it as long as I can live a normal lufe
I’ve put myself through hundreds of spontaneous withdrawals from opiates, it was a nightmare cycle. I have a deep, personal understanding of what withdrawal feels like, minute to minute. Until I finally put myself through a precipitated withdrawal and checked myself into a treatment center, did I ever had any success in staying clean. The rest is up to you. A.A. is helping me, personally. FYI 👍
Liss. I'm not the person who posted the comment, but I identify with what Evan said. I now have a few years clean and sober, substance free. I did use suboxone for a while to help with intense psychological craving for opiates. No longer need to. I haven't had a drink since 1997. AA was the only thing that worked for me. Other things may work for other people. I can only speak for myself. I will not judge anyone trying to free themselves from the slavery of addiction. Of any kind. If you're curious about AA, your local area probably has what is called "intergroup." Google local AA intergroup for more information. God bless.
I just shattered my elbow, tore ligaments, and broke my wrist in a freak basketball accident. I had never had surgery before. I was given morphine, and other pain killers. Currently decided to stop taking those oxytocin pills. I am currently 24 hours from not taking the medication. I'm glad I had the surgery, but man these withdrawals are strong. I know have a new perspective on this and can empathize with people who struggle with addiction. I am a man of faith, and this is just another battle I'm taking and giving to God. I'm 31 and 4 years sober from alcohol in May. I'm taking this battle seeious. It's so easy to just go take a pill and calm down. 4:01am here on socal and I'm trying to go to sleep. To anyone reading this, you are not alone, reach out to someone, talk about it, take your battles to God. In Jesus mighty name we will be healed. Never would of thought I end up on UA-cam researching this. I feel much better letting it out and reading the comments here.
Please ask your PCP for help. Don’t go through this alone.. you don’t have to. Ask for Trazadone for sleep. I was prescribed Mirapex for restlessness and Flexeril (muscle relaxer) for muscle aches. Lorazepam (Ativan) for anxiety and Clonidine (lowers BP but it is a commonly used medication for Opiate/alcohol withdrawal). God bless.
My advice coming from 30 of my 56 years on legal opiates. I have started/stopped so many times I lost count. Some to see what pain from multiple surgeries from a helicopter accident are being hidden and also to reset my tolerance. Never quit when out of opiates. Having that bail out is mentally important. Running out as you know is your worst fear while prescribed so eliminate that stressor. If tapering and you are beyond miserable, I would cut a IR "breakthrough" say 20 mg into 4 pieces and take one. IMPORTANT. NEVER again can you take more than that and remember the goal is to stop completely. Rolling around going from sweats to freezing in agony = failure leading to a "where that bottle" moment. That 1/4 will become 1/8 until the point it is a spec of opiate. I always stopped, began taper when I was already SICK or felt horrible. Yes, you heard me. Horrible. Flu, some bug, even a horrible hangover. The physical addiction wds, body pains, tiredness blend into the horrible way you feel so take advantage of it. You are already miserable so ride it out with the opiate issues mixed in. I could write a book but if you have a Dr get something for anxiety, a muscle relaxer like Skelaxin or Zanaflex even Melatonin. Remember, your brain will throw everything at you it can including pain before it gives up and starts learning how to make it's own chemicals and resetting.
Great info. Thank you. I’ve always been “out” when I tried to quit. I have a stash of “just in case” and I’m beginning this journey. If I do have to dip into them I’ll take your advice and cut into 4ths. Just barely enough to knock the edge off. Thanks again.
I was on Prozac, nitrazapan, dihydrocodeine for around 30 years and so many operations ,came off them ,I'm on 1dihydrocodeine a day now Tho I have lost 4stone in weight lost appetite struggling for 2years now I never abused any of them I am at a loss as to how to cope with appetite I'm 6st 4 and 70 years old Any advice would be well received 🤪
How long does the reset take? I recently learned from a friend that used pills for 18 years and has been clean 8 years said he still gets "dope sick" and that it happens often. As many stories I've heard that was a first. Anything like that for you? I find this very interesting. Glad you're sober🎉🎉🎉
I'm sitting here with my daughter's ex; my grandson's father. He is a heroin addict and is going through withdrawals as we speak. We all three - him, my daughter, and myself - decided he would stay here during the process because I was addicted to opioids for sixteen years and have been sober since February 15, 2016, so I know the process personally, and he's been through it before, himself. We all want him alive to be a father to his son. All we can do is encourage him, be there for him, AND PRAY. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, THEN PRAISE GOD AND PRAY SOME MORE. HE can, and WILL get us through anything. He's under medical care, so his dr is aware (just so no to one thinks we've left out that part). Great guy when he is sober; crazy scary when he's not. Please pray with us.
You are a very empathetic and understanding doctor. I only wish I could find an addiction doc with even a fraction of the compassion you project. I know what I need to quit because unfortunately I have done it more times than I can remember. The problem is then getting a doctor on board with helping me by writing the scripts I need, and being available and judgement free.
This is why I encourage education before judgement. I had an uncle addicted to heroin. He died in 1990. People would ask my grandma why are you giving him money. I would hear he's sick, but didn't understand what that meant. 32 years later. Now I know. Thanks to the good doctor, now I know.
What you Don't hear about much when dealing with opiod withdrawal is P.A.W.S. ( post acute withdrawal symptom ). I'd love the Doctor to explain that more in detail. P.A.W.S. can last much longer than just a few months and it can also be very emotionally draining. 👍
It is scary. Bless you for being there for him, not everyone is blessed enough to have someone support them through this. I hope he is on the mend, I hope he can get the help he needs. I also hope you can find time to recharge emotionally, mentally, spiritually as well as a caregiver.
Don't worry Halea. Its scary to look at but remember, he won't die. Hes got about 4 to 5 days of hell, then hell start to come out of it. If he is able to exercise he will cut the withdrawl time in half. If he hangs in there he will get over it. Ive done it before myself.
Music is something that really helped pass the time for me going through withdrawals. Especially through the horrible insomnia since it compounds my normal pain, but also the severity of withdrawals. Honestly, music meant so much to me going through withdrawals that I felt that when I wasn't going through it that the music didn't mean as much to me, and I missed that healing feeling. Just remember, this pain is temporary. Just like a stubbed toe in which you won't be thinking about 15 minutes after it happens, you won't be feeling the severe pain 2 to 3 weeks after it. Once you get to that 3 day milestone, just know that it gets better and easier slowly but surely. Don't push yourself, or feel bad about yourself for not doing what you're normally supposed to do. Also, take into consideration that your body is there for you. It works, thrives, suffers, and spends every last resource keeping you alive for you. Show it the same consideration if you can.
Day 7 cold turkey, i got this. I weened myself down to 20mg Oxy then went cold turkey. Never puked but did have alot of sweating on day 3,4. Used for almost 20 years, Max mg in a day was 80. Good Luck Fam. We got this...
The average person cannot understand how horrible opiod withdrawal is until they go through it themselves. Hell on earth. I never knew a human being could feel so bad.
I became addicted in 2013. Blew my knee out at BYU in our game against UCLA.... from there, I had a knee reconstruction on my ACL, MCL, PCL, LCL and meniscus. The pain pills were taken and it started. Reinjured it again less than a year later and my career ended. Depression set in and I didn't want surgery again, so I turned to pain pills again. Downward spiral from there. Now I'm back to me. It sucked at first. But I'm grateful I went through the pain of quitting. It wasn't the pills I was craving. I went through the mental and emotional withdrawal for almost 6 months. It was during the pains of withdrawal that I understood that I was craving something more than the pills could fulfill. When I realized this, I made the decision to take the addiction by the throat and beat it into submission. Been good ever since 2015. Again, it sucked recovering. But it's so worth it to be free!!! If you're quitting, brace for the hard days ahead. But STAY THE COURSE!!!! You will be grateful you did!!! ✊🏾💯
Doc knows what he's talking about. If I was alone no job no home I can count on Medicaid to go to a 30 day treatment and work on myself but for those of us that work. We don't have the luxury of leaving for 30 days even with FMLA you can't leave your family without money coming in for rent and bills. In trapped in hell of copping just to go to work then after work to go to sleep.
A shower, putting on clean clothes, eating, self care does wonders for withdrawal. For me, if I keep my hygiene somewhat in check, it helps opioid withdrawals for me big time. Maybe it’s a psychological thing in that just feeling clean helps the wd process or what it is, but doing those things does wonders for me during detox.
I never, ever thought I would find myself here. Thank you for the encouraging words at then end of video. I really, really needed to hear that. Thank you.
No problem, hope you can find the help and support you need. Stay motivated. Even when slip ups happen, try to not let the shame, guilt, frustration convince you that it’s hopeless. Keep pushing, keep fighting.
@@gloriae.p.luvr4life394 if you don’t already know, you can buy opioid “research chemicals” aka drugs that are legal and don’t show up on drug tests yet are prescribed in other countries but able to be legally sold on the internet because they haven’t been scheduled here. Let me know if you want the links because it will save you a lotttttttt of fucking money than just buying at insane prices from deug dealers today. The online prices range from 200 dollars for 10 grams to 300 for 30 grams depending on which vendor you use. And if you buy from Chinese vendors instead of US vendors, you save a lot of money there too on bulk. Lmk if you want any info on the research chemical world that a lot of addicts like myself didnt know it existed, and was fucking dumbfounded it did when I did😂I literally found it by being desperate one day and typing in “buy drugs legal online”. And boom, Reddit opened my eyes to a world with numerous online market places that had allllll various type of drugs. Accept they weren’t illegal, and UOU could order them like amazon amd have them shipped to your fucking door! Best day of my life, amd ironically worst day of my life too😂
Recovering AA and NA with over 45 years but I just have today. One day at a time. I enjoyed this info. Knowledge is power and I could share with someone in need. Thank you for sharing this much needed info.
20 years as a heroin addict. Ive tried everything. The only thing that saved me is methadone. Yeah it has a bad name but it stopping me from using. I haven't touched a needle in 4 years
You live your life how you see fit my friend. I take suboxone to stay off heroin and it saved my life. There were MANY times in the past 8 years of sobriety that i would've relapsed if it wasn't for suboxone. I have my life and family back and working a full time job. These medications get a bad name but i wouldn't be off heroin today if it wasn't for suboxone.
Thank you Andrew Kim. You’ve reassured me, I’m almost a week without codeine. Had an addiction for 5 years 😐. I really believe I will quit for good as I want to quit. Thanks for these kind of videos they really help.
@Arizona Rainn hey, thank you for the positivity. Still going strong I’m almost 6 weeks sober and I feel like I’ve got my life back again! It was a tough few days with withdrawal symptoms but i didn’t give up. I took 2 weeks off of work because I couldn’t work in that state. You can do it, believe in yourself. 🤞 ❤️ 😎
@@maverick9767 wow bro I’m just a couple days in and it feels like hell fr my whole body aches and I don’t know who to talk to but I really wanna quit fr
Just went through Opiate withdrawl and what a hell of a ride! Just when you think the phsyical symtoms are hell then in comes the mental warfare crashing in like the cool aid man. Never been through anything close to being this difficult. Then when the withdrawls are over with, you get strong cravings. Hopefully they go away soon
I really appreciate you sharing some accurate information in knowing how to understand, and what to expect in withdrawal . I’ve seen a lot of other stuff online that it’s just like making a joke on it. I came through a total knee replacement and have had to deal with being on opioids to deal with the pain and now I need to get off at so thank you so much bless you. I am grateful for people like you who are here to help others heal. 🙏
I am watching this 3rd of april 2024 and I am on day 5 cold turkey after a broken hip and multiple surgeries. I dont think I am suffering as much as some of you. I have NO desire for any painkiller, I do have trouble sleeping, sneezing and yawning, goosbumps but I dont feel moody or cravings. I think I am pretty lucky so far and I really hope it will not kick in later. I have been on just “normal” morphine so I believe that the peak is not coming later since I am already on the 5th day (+100 hours)
4 years clean and sober this June the 4th! To God my blessed savior is the only way I was able to do it. God saved me through the program of AA To any suffering struggling addict, YOU ARE NOT ALONE! The body aches, sweating, pins and needles feeling on your skin, total discouragement, thinking you can't do this, this isn't possible, the shaking, vomiting, shivering, diarrhea, no energy, YOU CAN DO THIS, YOU ARE ENOUGH! YOU ARE SO LOVED AND CARED FOR! Don't give up you have a father that loves you so much and brothers and sisters all around the world who love you, even though they have never met you, we love you we know the suffering and pain and torture and pure agony you are feeling but cry out to God he loves you, and know there are so many of us in this world who know what you are going through and know how it feels and dont care about your past we aren't judging you and belittling you about the pain you are in and how you brought it all on yourself, we aren't thinking like that. We are here for you I know how hard it is, stay strong reach out for help there are millions of people in this world who are willing and able to help you through your difficult times and the end result is so much more worth it than we can ever imagine 😀 To anyone who reads this, in case nobody has told you today that they love you, I DO, I love you, and there is nothing you can do about it either 😇
Thank you Dr. Kim!! I am day 4 of cold Turkey withdrawal from heroin and fentanyl. I still feel rotten but am beginning to see light at the end. Thank you for the info and the words of encouragement!!
Sir you have explained it brilliantly and it makes perfect sense, I’m 3 days in and it’s horrendous but I’m going to ride it out, thank you very much for simplifying it 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
You are so straight forward on your videos and have the gift of explaining addictions in such a Simple way. I want to encourage you to keep your passion of posting your videos. I am more than sure that you have been a catalysis of helping so many people. You present and express yourself in such a humble way. And also your knowledge base is second to none. You are an example for me that there are extremely wonderful people in this world as yourself and give so many hope. There is a special place for someone like you and I’m certain you will smile and know when that time comes.
The opioid that I used was Tramadol. I was put on Metadone therapy for 2 months during which the methadone dose was progressively reduced until it was eliminated. The withdrawal symptons started at 48 hours later and I went through HELL, ABSOLUTE HELL, did I mention HELL? for a complete month. I wouldn´t wish it on my worst enemy. I´m glad you did not mince words when you described it. I had extreme anxiety, paresthetias, nausea, vomiting, diarreah, insomnia, pain in the joints, mood changes, fatigue, and one of the worst ones was the feeling of having insects under my skin all over my body that wanted to get out and a few more I can´t remember. Cold showers and using the pool at the facility was the only thing that made things bearable. I am glad I was in a controlled environment or I would have gone back without giving it a second thought either to the Methadone or the Tramadol. My withdrawal sympons started being less horrible at week two. Two questions: Why nobody mentions Tramadol? and why did my withdrawal symptons when I stopped the Methadone took an entire month to more or less go away? Thank you.
👋 my wife and I are big fans of your channel. It is so refreshing to be delivered news in a brief but comprehensive manner seemingly nonpartisan from your perspective. Keep it up. We watch often. 👍
I'll say it again- this is an excellent, informative and accurate post. I respect the fact that the doctor delivers a message of HOPE.....things can be better. I'm happy to save this video as my first entry in my 'Health' playlist. Wishing all of you who need hope lots of it. Don't let prayer be the last resort.....maybe it should happen first., everyday. Eric Clapton says a prayer of thanks first thing, every morning upon waking, in gratitude for being clean and sober since the early 1980s, and he believes it has kept him that way.
3 months and stopped fine. Everyone's different. Careful not to confuse psychological dependency with physical. Also watch for the placebo effect. Sounds like what you're more prone to.
@@AndrewKimMD dr hi I have a question if opioids send signals that block pain why even if you have super tolerance Why won’t a 10mg effect pain anymore? Aren’t the signals still being sent to help pain that you just have Like chronic pain
Dear Doctor am writing this on 04.02.2023 and today am thinking to quit from this miserable habit of mine. I have tried to do this few times but I relapsed, today I set mind to do it. Please help me. Can you provide any means to contact you ! Please I need help. In my situation I can’t tell this to anyone or get help. Thank god I found your video.
@@chathuragawith9201 I'm now facing this after 20 yrs dr prisctions lowered my dose never explained withdrawal or anything. He said it's his new rule lower patients wasn't anything I did wrong now my primary dr prescribed clodine for anxiety from withdrawal so I should be getting it tomorrow. I'm so beside myself how could a pain dr just tell his patients he takes pain meds then lower patients and never discuss withdrawal.
Thank you for the information Dr. I’m on day 6. I am, thankfully, in a non-using & liberated (not incarcerated) living situation; however that’s where the positive and constructive aspects seem to end. The brain fog and chronic insomnia make it extremely difficult to even express what I am personally going through. This video has aided me and the people with whom I am living with get a better understanding of what’s going on and what’s to come.
Going thru it now. Car accident in 2021 lead me to this point. I get prescribed it and now i have to wait a week. Im in the 72 hour withdrawal effects and my spinal chord is screaming.
i been using tramadol for about 8 years now, and while it might not be as potent as other opiates i can assure you that the dependence and withdrawal you get from it is very real. i wanna get off it, and the doctors i visited didnt seem to have any real solution to it, even the psychiatrists. so right now im at a crossroads, get off the meds and feel miserable, or keep taking them and feel more normal but with side effects in the long run.
I’ve been on Co-codamol for about 8 years. Went from 4 Co-codamol per week to daily during the ridiculous COVID situation. Within the last 3 weeks I started taking 3 x 2 per day. Realised what was happening and stopped cold Turkey. Day 4 and I feel brighter with less pain! Am supplementing with 2mg Valium x 3 per day. Intend to go 2 x2mg to 1 x 2mg and then review with General Doctor.
I just went from 40mg of oxycodone to 5mg two days ago and I’m deathly afraid to stop, this medication is prescribed but I’ve been on it for along time . I’m feeling crappie and have chills, insomnia, sweating, agitated, twitching legs. I’m trying to work my full time job as well, I need to do this!!!
I just feel exactly the same..and if u have to work at the same time when u withdrawing ...its a torture..and most of the people don't understand that . and they think u lazy and u don't want to work regardless...thats what is the worst of a situation ..specially when lose the job because of it
Thank you! Finally some honesty! I've had too many doctors tell me "mild flu like symptoms" I don't take meds to get high. But now- i only take them to not feel withdrawals. Its unbearable.
Mild flu-like symptoms my ass! I almost wish we could get all the insensitive docs hooked on opioids then cut them off cold turkey so they'd have a better understanding of the total misery. How are you? I made it 3 days last week when I tried cold turkey. It was awful and I gave in. I'm now starting a very gradual taper plan that will take a few months. Then, I'll take a week off work when I finish the taper in case the withdrawal is bad again. Hang in there, you are not alone.
@@suzybearheart530 Thank you for this. In 2018 i found myself locked up in a mental institution. My doc at the time- instead of figuring the cause of my pain- kept throwing pills at me. And i wouldn't refuse, since the back pain would lessen until it didnt and i wud get more pills. For the first time- while in there- the nurses and "shrink" understood what i was going through. I was on 80mg oxycontin 8 times a day, 8 percs, Gabapentin, Lorazepam and seroquel. My body had such a high tolerance that i would run out early. And the worst withdrawal. The doc wud say- oh come on- its mild like symptoms. You can go to work. I wantes to kill myself. This brought me to fentanyl use. To stop the withdrawal. I hated my life. Tried to end it. Hence the 4 month mental institution stay. I begged the hospital to get me off the pills. My "shrink" told me, only way possible is a slow taper. To give you an example how slow the tapper has been- 2022 just begun and I'm on 7 percs a day and Vyvanse. And that's it! But for the first time it feels like i will be off the pills.it feels possible. In a couple weeks- I'll be down to 6. Ect.. Vyvanse for the A.D.H.D I'll most likely stay on. My "shrink" also has it so that i can only pick up my meds once a week. This is to prevent me from taking more. Sometimes, i might depending how bad my back is- but at least its only 1 day early, rather 2 weeks early. Slow taper is where its at! My shrink says only 5mg's every couple of weeks. Thanks again for your message.
@@purpleskittles2117 I'm so happy to hear your taper is going well! It's good they took it nice and slow since you were on some pretty high dosage. I drink poppyseed tea twice a day and so my slow taper is to still have it in the morning and late afternoon but each week I'll use less and less seeds to make the tea weaker and weaker. So far I'm using about 20% less than before. I use a cup to measure and hoping in the next few months to be off for good. Best of luck to you on your taper! Feel free to check in here if you need any words of support.
@@suzybearheart530 congratulations on your successes. I know how hard it is. I've never heard of poppy seed tea! Does this help with withdrawal? And thank you for the support. Warms my heart. Feel free to reach out as well xo
One of my career choice was to become Psychiatrist. I was always told I am good at solving problems. But I choose to a different career path still in Medical field. I like to educate myself in this type of thing. Great video!
Khmerstar I have a question for you my psychiatrist said I have chronic pain syndrome just like my mother and my grandmother. She said there is no shame I stay on opiates the rest of my life because I have not abused them what do you think about that
PS there is so much prejudice I mean from doctors to people who take opiates. They treat Patients like criminals. Whether a person is taking opiates for real physical pain or because you just want to feel better that does not mean you are a bad person.. it is not an ethical issue. Opiate withdrawals should be treated like any other disease. In fact more so. If those doctors knew how much people sufferes they would not wean them off as fast as they do. It is cruel to let humans being suffer so much and be so afraid to tell your doctor that you took extra pills because you needed to clean your house and you couldn't handle your physical pain. They don't hear that at all they see is you're an addict and you didn't do what they said and so now you get nothing. How is that right ?how is that ethical?not to mention how unmerciful to let people go through opiate withdrawals by themselves, but once you get that written in your chart whether it's true or not if a doctor decides that you have used opiates it is like having a criminal charge on your record question the doctor most doctors don't treat the individual thank God I have a good doctor who does help me but I can't tell her everything. Cuz she's been a little brainwashed also. I worked in the medical field for 30 years. the way they treated patients with pain was absolutely unethical almost evil. I can't believe in every instance it's all wrong for everyone. I've heard if you take them long-term you get something called fibromyalgia which means the opiates actually start causing you pain. But how can they say that that happens to every individual? Providers have gotten away from treating the individual person. Plus most of us were never told the contraindications of taking opiates long-terms now when we want to get off of them the provider's treat us like we did something wrong i...t's a catch-22.. does anybody know of someone who started a Blog on this. This is one of the last discriminations people have not addressed in this country that too many people are suffering for it. Many facilities never prescribed opiates we still know they are the safest and best analgesic for acute pain
I had to detox after getting pain relievers, and it was indeed hell... Pain is back again, but I take it as a side effect now; never again will I swallow pills for it. Detox was a lesson; pain is a companionship.
To be very honest, I just feel someone who is an ex user would be in the best position to explain the pain and anguish of withdrawal. Its completely unexplainable 😢. To users out there I hope you find a good reason to stop and to people like me who are willing to, I hope and pray you find the necessary help and support you seek. ❤ BTW, thank you Doc.😊
I can handle a detox, don't like it and extremely horrible weakness, anxiety, insomnia and shakes....never had restless leg in my 20 plus detoxes, almost 2 years clean...but OMG the PAWS and weeks of insomnia was always the real test for me....everyone is different, but that was always what broke me psychologically, especially when i was homeless and medicaid only covered a 5 day detox, the weak as hell, back on the streets with only a bus pass to my name...luckily had family that finally paid for a ticket to Montana, and had no choice but to duke it out for a long week or 2 on the couch. Sucks.
That was an excellent video!!!!Thank you Dr. Kim ! I am a herion addict , clean for 4 years via methadone !! But your compassion will help addicts realize they are still wonderful people! 30 mgs left ,and I'm done ,slow and steady ! I figure 5 MORE months !!!!! I have therapist and counseled, and see psychiatrist! Keep looking forward!!! GOD BLESS YOU DR.KIM !
It is so hard. My doctor did not know how to withdraw it but they give it 10 years ago like candy. I am halve way noe. It is even hell when it is jot cold turkey. Stay strong!
I was on heroin and metherdon for over 33 years im now nealy a year clean i now feal better now then i ever did on opits trust me if i can do it enyone can its so werth it trust me ❤❤
Thank you Doctor, This is completely accurate. I find the issue with many people, and a "friend" of mine, is the inability to survive the financial burden of getting off them and function enough to work. it is an impossible task unless you have some sort of extended benefits that will ensure you keep a roof over your head and cover other bills if you have hit rock bottom(no pun intended). I hope to establish a channel/club that can generate enough funds to assist and advocate for people going through these types of issues. Not just opiates, but other challenges that limit many people from living their passion in life. Many humans are not sitting in their right seat in life's journey and this can lead to mental health issues that drive them to copping mechanisms that will only cripple them more. We need to help each other and be compassionate and drop the stigma around substance dependency.
Very accurate. People need to know this before they use. It will be the longest weeks of your life getting clean again. Absolute hell, incredible discomfort without any relief. Don't ever start. I started because a girl I liked used... That almost cost me my life. Don't do it.
My friend quit opiates 7 years ago. Now he uses it on occasion, usually for less than a week. He says that even after a year of not using it he still has a tolerance. He says that after a week of use he gets a slight withdrawal... A mild one, that lasts for about 5days.
That’s all in his head. No one gets withdrawal after using opiates for a week. U know how many ppl are prescribed narcotics for after surgery? If used as prescribed for a week or two u won’t get withdrawals and if you do it won’t be hell like ur saying. He’s probably using dope or fentanyl
My brother died about a year ago from opiods, he just couldnt stop and drove his family away with his ridiculous behavior, we couldnt help him anymore he became impossible to trust anymore because he was always after the drugs no matter who he hurt. Best thing is to never start in the first place.
Thank u..u helped a lot. U gave me a lot of answers. I'm only on day 2 of quitting and I have all the withdrawel symptoms. I hate the insomnia and muscle aches most..
Hey. How did you get on with coming off? I am now on day 4 and the only things i still have Is dancing legs at night, a little insomnia. I feel abit depressed on and off. I have been on Codeine for a long time due to my back and a fall i had that hurt my arm. But i decided enough is enough and chucked my remaining pills and went Cold turkey. I think i am doing well so far. I hope you have done too 🙂
@@michelajoe7930 Unfortunately I started again when I got Covid and felt horrible. So now I started the quitting process again...its going well since I know now what to expect and how long it takes...Thank u for asking!
@@AD-wr1gr Oh great Job! I hope u r doing well. I start er again but it just did not feel the same. It just felt stupid and I felt stupid. So I have to go to withdrawel again but In going to make it...insomnia is, by far, the worst part imo..
I have 2 bulging discs L4-L5 I started with 1 Norco 750 every 4-6 hours for pain . Over a period of time I end up taking 30-35 Norco or vicaden a day for 6-7 years . I was prescribed 60 a month . I wound up having to buy them from the streets . I wound up having to take that many to avoid withdrawals which is the worst thing that I went through . After getting help I'm 11 years clean thankfully I was able to get off them or I would not be here today I'm surprised but thankfull that all my blood work is good for liver . I wish I had never touched a Norco or vicaden it was some of the worst times in my life .
I have been on 130 mg of morphine er for 15 years. I ran out for 3 days before my script was refilled and it sucked. My main thing was restless leg syndrome and twitching, drove me crazy. I want to get off this stuff it is horrible and doesn't work for me anymore. I feel for all of you who are going through withdrawal.
I was on opioids for 6 years i stop using it cold 3 months ago cold turkey, I try suboxone an I caught an allergic reaction i woke up with my lips an chick swallowed I ended up in the hospital.. the withdrawal of this is unbearable almost lost my family cz of the lies an the abuse, I’m trying to stay positive but it’s hard but God has help me fight the very day temptation..I might sound corny or whatever but praying has help tremendously I kid you not when I pray it’s like the craving goes away little by little..just sharing my story God bless everyone an hope y’all get through this disease..🙏🏽🙏🏽
I'm in Witdrawl right now and this gives me hope and makes me educated and this doc tells exjectly what I'm thinking the psychological affect the anxiety everything I'm thinking to go through detox but it's expensive here I can't afford it right now but I'm trying hard
5:20 Yessir, absolutely. I'll never forget the day I stopped taking my prescription for Suboxone. It truly was Hell on Earth...or on my central nervous system anyway. I swear I could feel the molecules of the opioid detaching from my spine, as my nerves reawakened and began "feeling" all of the various input stimuli of simply lying in bed. Shaking, shivering, diarrhea, sweating, aching everywhere, and just wishing it would end. I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.
Very interesting spine / molecule description. In detox from fentanyl I had , among many other things , EXTREME discomfort in my spine between my shoulder blades that literally made me in a psychotic episode try and climb the walls . This is the closest analogy I’ve seen to what I was feeling . Anyway , close to 3 years clean , no subs , no methadone . Hope you are living life . 🙏
The worst realization. And then you start going through your bags and stuff, hoping you'll magically find something, while knowing full well there is nothing there. It sucks.
Also, the longer one uses for the faster dependence restarts. If a 5 year user gets clean for 2 weeks, and then starts again, they’ll be dependent within a few days.
Anyone reading this struggling mentally well after the time period that’s talked about here I would like to share something . For an entire year after being clean from a decade long pills to heroine to fentanyl addiction with alcohol the entire time .. I had slightly fogged vision , brain fog , lethargy . I was convinced I fried my brain forever and became suicidal . Staying clean the entire time I snapped out of it about 15 months in . Almost like flipping a switch . In hindsight it was mind boggling . I now am more productive than ever . Please , please don’t give up . Your bran CAN repair 🙏
Thanks Doc. You nailed it by offering something that's never occurred to me. Kicking is absolutely all the effects of using opioids in reverse. Bam.... it's like I've had an epiphany. I'll be walking that road again sometime in the near future. Just doing a bit of research on having some kind of help by way of medicinal assistance. Locking myself away for a while is not a great option for me. It's my bad and I gotta deal with it as I'm certain this isn't the path I'm supposed to walk until I exit. Again, thanks Doctor.
How long did the severe stuff last? At day 2 I start throwing up and can't stop..like every 5-10 min and can't eat or drink. So I always slip up and go back just to stop throwing up and feeling like death. I feel if I can do 72 hours I wouldn't go back. Been on fin for 2 years. Half g a day
@@Memphis_Mafia depending on what you do to help your body detox could significantly reduce the severity and time. I recommend staying hydrated by drinking coconut water only because it has a lot of potassium and magnesium which helps the body rehydrate especially because your vomiting a lot plus these minerals with help your body really calm down and relax. Also if you are hydrated the body can expel those toxins out of your body so much quicker. Before you know it you will be feeling 50% better. Just don’t throw in the towel so easily the fight is so worth it I promise. If you want to know more reply to this and I’ll be happy to help brother.
Anyone who needs someone to talk to about this feel free to comment on this. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice just words from someone who had been through this three times due to chronic pain conditions. The symptoms are exactly as he described hell and if you don’t know what your getting into it can be incredibly scary. Ps I never used more than prescribed or longer than prescribed I was never mentally addicted but was definitely dependent so if I can help others I hope to do that.
Hi, My name is Missy. I would love someone to talk to, and get advice from. I'm very scared. I was put into a very bad situation by my Dr. I am taking my medication strictly for chronic pain as well. I've never had an addiction problem. They lied to me and told me suboxone was used for Chronic pain and now I'm stuck on it and I want off of it. I'm SCARED TO DEATH. I've never been through withdrawal in my life. I don't know what to do. I'm terrified.
Anyone on here can talk to me. I am currently addicted to opiates and I have relapsed and gone through withdrawals a few times. Anyone have questions about withdrawals let me know. I’ve been hooked on oxys on and off and suboxone too.
@@axloz6494 currently going through a relapse on and off with OxyContin. Best advice to get through it is TO NOT BE SCARED. your mindset has a bigger portion to do with it than your body. I’ve noticed through different withdrawals I’ve gone through that after the first intense 3 days the pain will only stop through your mindset. If you want to quit these so bad look at it as a war with your mindset. Don’t let the bad thoughts get to you. The more I think about oxys the more I feel the pain and depression of the withdrawals. The first time I went through withdrawals sadly was the worst because I was scared just like you. The first 3 days is pain because that’s when your body is like where the hell did it go? So you start feeling like you’re literally sick and you think the worst thoughts and this is what causes people to keep using or switching to something worse. The best advice I can give you is if you really want to stop using. You will get through it. Just think about getting clean and I wish you the best of luck. I myself haven’t fully quit all the way. It may take some time a lot of people like myself relapse
@Mini Marcle Imodium, 1 a day men’s, gabapenton if you are prescribed it, Ambien if prescribed it, Ativan if prescribed it. Take all of these for 1-2 weeks no longer. Also stock plenty of gateraid and liquid means such as ensure. If you have a heating pad make sure it works and have plenty of easy things to watch but don’t push them too much.
Glad that's behind you, stay strong Delisa. Even though it was a dark time, you can use that as a source of motivation like you're doing. Thanks for sharing.
I have been going on for two weeks I withdrawals from oxycodone and morphine that I was getting from my pain management doctor. But the last visit she told me she can’t help me no more and I can’t have my meds so I’ve decided I’m gonna beat this it’s been hard just like the rest of you were talking feels like you’re going through hell but I know this there’s got to be victory on the other side but I’m with y’all you’re not alone on this but hang in there two weeks strong and still going I hope it eases up soon the nights are the longest I don’t know why but it is. God bless you everyone
The one thing I wish he would have discussed at least in SOME detail was the difference between Fentanyl and almost every other opiate/opioid when it comes to Suboxone. Maybe he does cover it more in the actual sub video, idk for sure, I haven't watched it, but for people who come across this, it would be VERY important information to have. Fent is fat-soluble, like how cannabis is, versus almost every other one being water-soluable. Water-soluable drugs tend to enter and exit your system faster - even with heavy use, maybe 3-5 days and it's completely out - but fent will just absolutely SIT in your system, and if you are going to go the route of using Suboxone for management, this has MAJOR implications. Precipitated withdrawal, which he did refer to, can occur when you take Suboxone before the opioids have completely left your body's opiate receptors. Suboxone is extremely competitive and has a "bind and block" action instead of "bind and activate" like other drugs, so it WILL kick out anything you didn't get rid of and you will go into the worst version of withdrawal for anywhere from 1-8 hours (usually an average of 6 hours). I waited FIVE full days from my last dose of fent to take a dose of subs and the immediate sweating told me I made a very big mistake. I've been in it before, but this was so much worse than anything prior, so I did even end up in the hospital, not able to lay still and just twisting in agony with muscle contractions I thought was definitely going to tear some tendon or ligament with how contorted I had to be to get ANY amount of relief. The point of this is, if you're on fent (like most people taking "heroin" cuz it's rare to even find anymore), and you do your induction visit for the first time with the doc, if it's been less than at LEAST 72 hours, TELL the doctor this and that it's fent your dealing with, because if you were a heavy user, you've got A LOT built up in your body and it doesn't come out quickly. The best option in this case (though the vast majority of drs aren't going to authorize this themselves, but they'll tell you that it IS a good strategy) is to try and change from using fent to a water-soluable version (morphine, oxys, etc.) that you can use for substitution to a drug that leaves your body much faster and therefore minimizes your risk of hurting yourself. Otherwise, you REALLY need to be careful and leave significant time to clear everything out. Just my two cents from a dude who made the same dumb mistake that I wish on NOBODY, ever ☺️
@@chloewright4809 harm reduction is important, and precipitated withdrawal is nothing BUT harm when you're trying to do right. I'm glad this knowledge is reaching at least some people.
I’m about three days in and I’m going through the extreme thick of it now getting off of Suboxone after 13 years of everyday use. I’m literally shaking uncontrollable as I write this. By God great all mighty!; I’m going through this with his help and The only stock that drives me on three is to know that I will see myself perfectly OK and alright some day on the other side. I am so focused I’m looking forward to hopefully someday not being in any tremendous amount of pain; having my energy back and not being tired all the time like I have been for the last 13 years. I can say that for the patients who swapped over from OxyContin and all forms of various types of narcotic pain pills. From my experience the withdrawal symptoms aren’t quite as bad but they can still be pretty intense!
@@russellwright1422 you got this. I know!!! Just stay strong. Much love ❤ It's going to get better I promise. I know how you feel, I've been there I'm sending you virtual hugs from Eastern Europe. North Macedonia 🇲🇰 Skopje
I've been on everything he's talking about! I am only a week free from methadone and it's the absolute worst drug I've ever come off of!!! I hate it!! This has been my life for 40years and I'm going into detox on the 1st. It's like my whole body has been awaken and driving me crazy!!!!
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I hope anyone reading this knows you are not suffering alone. Youre important, needed, loved. You will get through this.
Thank u Pepsi cola, I needed to hear that. Does anyone else have a lot of pain in their hands so much that it's difficult to type
Hopefully , I’ve been using Percs since 2012 when someone first gave it to me I puked everytime the time I didn’t vomit I being to like it and use it recreational now I start paying and using every dollar on them I just had a newborn I’m on a path to distruction and i
Have been battling all day to go and buy some pills just to hold on but then I’m trying to stay strong minded but I don’t wanna be screwed in the night time at 6pm it will be 24 hrs for me hopefully I can survive this mission god bless
@@kiddor909gmail I have the hand pain and the pain in the bottom of my foot on the arch area 😌
That's something good to hear. Helps me thriugh
@@kiddor909gmail yes. My knuckles hurt so bad. I’m dying
I went to detox in 2020 for heroin/fentanyl use and I only went there to get Suboxone. I never got it, and had to kick the old fashion way...sweating while being ice cold, shivering with a fever, no bowel control, having to pee ever 10 minutes, no sleep, restless legs and arms....
I am so SO glad I had to do it that way. I went on to a PHP program, and into an IOP program with sober living. Now I'm a member of AA, I have an apartment, a newborn and I now work in treatment trying to help the next ones, they way I was helped and guided
Edit/update. We just bought a house.
Thank you for sharing, I pinned this, hoping this can provide some hope to other viewers and readers. Keep up the good fight, awesome that you are there for your newborn. Much blessings and good wishes to your family, you, your newborn.
@@AndrewKimMD thank you, it helps others to know we do recover
Dear Peter: ex addict myself. On Suboxone now , 5 years May 3rd 2023. Shit really works . John
Keep your eyes on the prize, one day, one hour, one minute at a time.
@@johnseklecki2175 I never got it prescribed, I've been sober nearly 3 years now and I'm sure Suboxone would have made the early parts easier.
The absolute worst pain and suffering I've ever been through was trying to kick fentanyl. Went through detox and rehab so many times to just go right back and do it all over. Coming up on 5 years clean, I got my life back. If I can do it, you can too.
That is a major accomplishment and you should be proud as hell!!! Congrats on your 5 years. Keep pushing forward. It's people like you that help others!!! I truly hope you are proud of yourself....im proud of you!!!
Good glad for you I started using for constipation I have got a problem then add Brazos and alcohol I cannot give over with them for pain and got court today
Bravo to you!! I know how hard it is. You are super strong!
You went back many times. I am an old man and I can’t tolerate severe body pain. Best for me is to take a lot of pills and go to sleep
@@MartinSage I'm not in your shoes so I don't know what you're going through. I hope you don't give up though. Love you bud
I quit opioids 9 years ago and it was miserable. It really did feel like hell. 9 years later and it was all worth it to be sober from it❤️
I love seeing comments like yours. Congratulations on getting that demon off your back 🙏✨🦝❤️
@David Gilbert same here. I’ve been in a loveless marriage with methadone for 13 years. It makes me sick just to look at myself in the mirror 🪞
great job - go natural in all - Big Pharma is killing people with their poison
Jennifer - How is life? Wishing you well on your courageous journey.
How can You help someone to come off of it without prescription drugs? No Insurance.
I have the utmost respect for people with the courage to go through this to change their life for the better. If anyone reading this is in the midst of Withdrawal, I'm rooting so hard for you. Stay strong, battle, you will come out the other side infinitely better, healthier and happy.
I'm on day three.
@@limayaden8458i hope everything went well how long did you feel bad for and what daily dosage of tramadol were you taking
@@limayaden8458 im on day 6
Oxycontin is safe according Mr Sackler of Perdue, it were the half a million Americans that passed away that were just criminals said Mr Sackler, Mr Sackler now has 15 Billion dollars and laughs at the system of justice.
I'm going through withdrawal right now day 4
Fighting stage 4 liver/colon cancer. Was one around 220mg’s/day. I didn’t realize the power, and decided to stop. Done with cancer, done with these pills. It was hell, but I managed like 10 full days of zero painkillers. But then realized 1) my quality of life was suffering, the pain from the cancer was loud and clear. So I started back up, but at a much lower dose. I can’t wait for this absolute hell, once I beat this cancer.
i guess there isn't much i can say except that i wish you all the best in the world you can get to help you out of your situation and much strength on your way!!! hang in there pls!
I WOULD SAY IF YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS LOW DUE TO PAIN AND OTHER SYMPTOMS OF CANCER WHY NOT GIVE YORSELF SOME RELIEF. THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A DECENT QUALITY OF LIFE IS BETTER THAN SUFFERING ENDLESSLY. IF THE PILLS ARE MAKING LIFE WORTH LIVING, THEN WHY NOT GIVE YOURSELF THE ABILITY TO AT LEAST FEEL A LITTLE BETTER.
I pray u live and get through the cancer my friend jesus is lord ....
Raise the pH level in your body. The cancer can't live when the pH is high.
Alsolook David Straight up, he teaches people allot of his knowledge that he's gained over the years. He's studied law for over 35 years. And he is who I heard about the pH level..
I just relapsed after 6 years of opiate sobriety. Not only am I now "resetting" my sobriety, but the withdrawal nightmare has started again and I just feel like a total failure. Addiction never ends
It can't start again with 1 use? Or did you start to everyday using? If u did that after 6 years then there is no words for you..
@@Leodicapri0 if youve been addicted before you get withdrawal quicker it can start after a week of using everyday maybe a bit sooner
Please stay strong, you can do it you can be the amazing AGAIN.
Never underestimate your power.. when you feel like you're failed.. tell yourself you will be stronger than before
@@jsmokee7933 A week yes but not one use
My Dr over prescribed opioids for my back injury that resulted in spinal fusion. OxyContin, opana, fentanyl (oral and the patch). After 8 years of dr prescribed addiction I detoxed my self at home in 2011. Horrible detox!!! Pure hell but worth it!
By God’s grace I’m still here and haven’t relapsed EVER!
Prayers for anyone going through that hell!!♥️🙏
I made the mistake of going from Opana,oxy, vikes to suboxone. This detox is even worse. It should have been used for short term. But these awesome Dr's love to dose.
Dr’s prescribe based on what you report.
Are you pain free? Every time I detox myself, I can’t live in my body. It hurts everywhere!
I was the Medical Director of a Substance Abuse Treatment Program more than 30 years ago. And the battle has not changed. The only thing we had to work with was Methadone for the most part to help. Our colleagues looked down on us because they felt we were addicting them to yet another drug. But watching these folks pull there lives together slowly but surely, and even get off the Methadone, build homes and families. I knew we were doing some good.
Methadone!!! Totally misunderstood. Easily the best way to quit opioids.
@@markaprill6501noo ! I was told that in 2003 and i stay on it for 19 years the worst drug to detox if you get to a high dose for years its almost impossible to detox and the whitdraws are for ever ,i detox methadone 15 years ago and i still feel like shit no peces what so ever and i was clean all those years i don't even smoke.
methadone is opioid. Its miserable to get off.
@@babycakesweetiepie77 like I was saying totally misunderstood.
Money every aspect of this medicine is connected to money. I'd like to find an old Indian who has tools to get me off this, keep me feeling no effects of withdrawals. A plan that actually works, and works good! No set backs. 2024 and the western civilization cannot find a better way? All I see is money made being made and people suffering.
Anyone who hasn't experienced this should try to have a little compassion for someone dealing with this. (set aside the fact that they put themselves there in the first place, they're quitting, give them some credit) Going through the withdrawals is extremely painful. It's all of these symptoms that you hear about, 10 times what you've ever felt. When you hear the fact that these symptoms last for a week... it's the whole week. Because you can't sleep, you feel this 24hrs a day for 7 days. This, right here, is the reason I and other people I know always have had a hard time quitting. If I could sleep that off even just for a few hours of each day it could be manageable, but there is no break from these symptoms. That's what makes it so difficult..
CORRECT BRO...I was not a so called user...I damaged my lower back...3 upper and 2 lower by the tail bone...BONE SPURS...AAARRRGGGHHHHH...BUT ALL THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO THAT HAD SPINE SURGURY SAID IT AINT WORTH IT !!! 6 MONTHS AFTER...YOUR IN SAME BACK PAIN!!! OK...NOT 4 ME...SO MY DR WAS VERY GOOD...HE GAVE ME WHAT I ASKED FOR...EVEN FENTYNAL PATCHES...DANG...GOOD STUFF...BUT FINALLY GOT OFF THOSE BECAUSE OVER DOSERS BACK EAST WERE DYING & ABUSING THEM...SO POTUS STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE & HALTED USE...
I'm on day 3 and the fact that I can't escape the pain with sleep is horrid. Restless legs, nerves firing, night sweats. It's awful.
@@suzybearheart530 keep going after 5 days they ease and it just lingers. Im 2 month off methadone and its lingering now. No aches just bad stomach n anxiety and bouts of cold sweats. Please keep going it gets so much better.
@@adzgee7 I gave in on the third night and had a small cup of poppyseed tea. It was the best sleep ever. But now I gotta start all over again. I'm so mad at myself for failing. I think I'm going to try and taper this time instead of going cold turkey. Plus, I'll take a few days off work that way if I don't sleep all night again I don't have to worry about being productive the next day.
@@suzybearheart530 few days off work? You need at least 6 month off. I couldnt work doing this ive got another 12 months on sickness and disability before i need to work again. Im over 2 month off methadone and im still bad. Please try again after tapering right down. Took me 6 attempts
On point about the anxiety part!!! I kept hearing in my head the storm was coming. Did it!!!! I took one to two pain pills a day for 18 months because of a hip problem. I had a massive panic attack one day and within two to three days I never took another one and then the anxiety hit!!! Panic attack after panic attack. I had no physical symptoms just mental and I can tell you this by far has been one of the most horrible seasons in my life!!!! I’m still trying to get my life back after all this! Prayers to anyone going through this! I pray to God all day everyday to give me the strength to walk through this!!
Hi, can I ask please how are you doing now? ❤
I saw his post on Alcohol Withdrawal. Something I went through, but learned to ask for medical assistance because it was not only hell, it was deadly. 26 years after my last drink, I have great sympathy for anyone caught in addiction of any kind. I wish all healthcare workers from Doctors to CNA’s knew about addiction medicine.
Believe it or not it's more deadly than opiate withdrawal
My husband is about to go in for a 6 week inpatient treatment for 20 years of prescribed opioid use. I hate the doctors for even starting him on these. I'm so so proud of him for making this step. Seeing the comments have helped me understand what he's about to go through.
I’m confused……why was he on them 20 years? And what do tithe experts give? Methadone? (Adolphine - synthetic morphine Hitler’s psychopaths came up with - addicting; longer detox-now suboxone - addicting; longer withdrawal……..what’s wrong with basically putting them to sleep for 3 days (average withdrawal off pvrcacets; maybe 5 to put them on a ‘LEGAL’ drug.that takes longer (people stay on those for years…At ridiculously high doses…….I see MONEY……and we have a long way to go……these doctors need better training…..wean people way too fast……and we wonder why we have a fentanyl problem when some states are threatening doctors with jail……so now they’re afraid to write prescriptions……I just read that in 2017 fentanyl was the 235th highest prescribed opiate……no on and I mean no one need that kind of pain relief outside of a hospital. Doctors should learn to wean people off slowly (if client suffer long term pain) to less and lower dosages……..what a tragic mess 😩
Suboxone - agonist/antagonist……still long withdrawal
Poor bastard. He should be weened down. He is going to go through.hell!
How did he do?
How he could do it? Csn u please explain it? My lover is going through this situation upto 3 weeks, He want to stop it. Bt he can't.Can u please explain how it can be done?
I went through it yesterday and last night was one of the worst times I have went through. I have a disease of my pancreas that is incredibly painful. I have to take hydro. every day. On top of this I fell and fractured my hip. I ran out Sunday morning. And last night I was in such pain I wanted to hurt myself. But I made it through to this morning. My doctor refilled my meds today.
Withdrawal is the worst thing I have ever had to deal with. I pray that everyone who goes through it comes out safe.
How many norco you take a day
Opioid withdrawal is one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever been through, and I have a lot of painful physical conditions. There's just no way that the words "nausea, insomnia, sweating, chills, etc" can do it justice. It's like the worst fever you've ever had, but multiplied by 100. You just cannot get comfortable no matter what you do. At least that's how it was for me on a full agonist, but more mild ones definitely aren't as bad, but that full-blown opioid withdrawal is so, so horrible.
Well put 👍
It’s IMPOSSIBLE to adequately describe to someone who hasn’t been through it.
Not enough words.
liquid hands cuffs made me feels like that the good ole 'methadone but nothing else had withdraws like that drugs .... it wil beat the strongest of people. just how long the withdraws are.
@@justinporterr8843Just man up and get off its the only way
I have heard other junkies say that addicts learn to exaggerate the symptoms for sympathy. I think that Hollywood has made the effects more severe as a case of life imitating art gone bad.
yeah, the body is uncapable of feel pleasure in any way, must be like hell, literally.
I quit H with Subutex, I quit Subutex again with H and then back to subutex... Now i'm on methadone for the Last 15yrs, got my life back and being a functioning part of society. I dont think I Will ever quit and im fine with it as long as I can live a normal lufe
I’ve put myself through hundreds of spontaneous withdrawals from opiates, it was a nightmare cycle. I have a deep, personal understanding of what withdrawal feels like, minute to minute. Until I finally put myself through a precipitated withdrawal and checked myself into a treatment center, did I ever had any success in staying clean. The rest is up to you. A.A. is helping me, personally. FYI 👍
Are you in a treatment center now?
Liss. I'm not the person who posted the comment, but I identify with what Evan said. I now have a few years clean and sober, substance free. I did use suboxone for a while to help with intense psychological craving for opiates. No longer need to. I haven't had a drink since 1997. AA was the only thing that worked for me. Other things may work for other people. I can only speak for myself. I will not judge anyone trying to free themselves from the slavery of addiction. Of any kind. If you're curious about AA, your local area probably has what is called "intergroup." Google local AA intergroup for more information. God bless.
I just shattered my elbow, tore ligaments, and broke my wrist in a freak basketball accident. I had never had surgery before. I was given morphine, and other pain killers. Currently decided to stop taking those oxytocin pills. I am currently 24 hours from not taking the medication. I'm glad I had the surgery, but man these withdrawals are strong. I know have a new perspective on this and can empathize with people who struggle with addiction. I am a man of faith, and this is just another battle I'm taking and giving to God. I'm 31 and 4 years sober from alcohol in May. I'm taking this battle seeious. It's so easy to just go take a pill and calm down. 4:01am here on socal and I'm trying to go to sleep. To anyone reading this, you are not alone, reach out to someone, talk about it, take your battles to God. In Jesus mighty name we will be healed. Never would of thought I end up on UA-cam researching this. I feel much better letting it out and reading the comments here.
Please ask your PCP for help. Don’t go through this alone.. you don’t have to. Ask for Trazadone for sleep. I was prescribed Mirapex for restlessness and Flexeril (muscle relaxer) for muscle aches. Lorazepam (Ativan) for anxiety and Clonidine (lowers BP but it is a commonly used medication for Opiate/alcohol withdrawal). God bless.
Night 7 has been the worst so far, anyone else find the night a hundred times worse than during the day?
Yes ten thousand times worse
You ain’t wrong man the nights go on forever when your in it believe me I know as you do iv been on and off h all my adult life
Nah trick your mind it’s hard I know but at the end you are in control... the mind is powerful more than what y’all think...
Take kratom it takes the edge off i got clean using kratom tea then stopped the tea it wasnt that bad
Hell yes
My advice coming from 30 of my 56 years on legal opiates. I have started/stopped so many times I lost count. Some to see what pain from multiple surgeries from a helicopter accident are being hidden and also to reset my tolerance.
Never quit when out of opiates. Having that bail out is mentally important. Running out as you know is your worst fear while prescribed so eliminate that stressor. If tapering and you are beyond miserable, I would cut a IR "breakthrough" say 20 mg into 4 pieces and take one. IMPORTANT. NEVER again can you take more than that and remember the goal is to stop completely. Rolling around going from sweats to freezing in agony = failure leading to a "where that bottle" moment. That 1/4 will become 1/8 until the point it is a spec of opiate.
I always stopped, began taper when I was already SICK or felt horrible. Yes, you heard me. Horrible. Flu, some bug, even a horrible hangover. The physical addiction wds, body pains, tiredness blend into the horrible way you feel so take advantage of it. You are already miserable so ride it out with the opiate issues mixed in. I could write a book but if you have a Dr get something for anxiety, a muscle relaxer like Skelaxin or Zanaflex even Melatonin.
Remember, your brain will throw everything at you it can including pain before it gives up and starts learning how to make it's own chemicals and resetting.
Great info. Thank you. I’ve always been “out” when I tried to quit. I have a stash of “just in case” and I’m beginning this journey. If I do have to dip into them I’ll take your advice and cut into 4ths. Just barely enough to knock the edge off. Thanks again.
I was on Prozac, nitrazapan, dihydrocodeine for around 30 years and so many operations ,came off them ,I'm on 1dihydrocodeine a day now
Tho I have lost 4stone in weight lost appetite struggling for 2years now
I never abused any of them
I am at a loss as to how to cope with appetite I'm 6st 4 and 70 years old
Any advice would be well received 🤪
How long does the reset take? I recently learned from a friend that used pills for 18 years and has been clean 8 years said he still gets "dope sick" and that it happens often. As many stories I've heard that was a first. Anything like that for you? I find this very interesting. Glad you're sober🎉🎉🎉
@@janeqpublic7590that is horrifying .
I'm sitting here with my daughter's ex; my grandson's father. He is a heroin addict and is going through withdrawals as we speak. We all three - him, my daughter, and myself - decided he would stay here during the process because I was addicted to opioids for sixteen years and have been sober since February 15, 2016, so I know the process personally, and he's been through it before, himself. We all want him alive to be a father to his son. All we can do is encourage him, be there for him, AND PRAY. PRAY, PRAY, PRAY, THEN PRAISE GOD AND PRAY SOME MORE. HE can, and WILL get us through anything. He's under medical care, so his dr is aware (just so no to one thinks we've left out that part). Great guy when he is sober; crazy scary when he's not. Please pray with us.
You are a very empathetic and understanding doctor. I only wish I could find an addiction doc with even a fraction of the compassion you project. I know what I need to quit because unfortunately I have done it more times than I can remember. The problem is then getting a doctor on board with helping me by writing the scripts I need, and being available and judgement free.
This is why I encourage education before judgement. I had an uncle addicted to heroin. He died in 1990. People would ask my grandma why are you giving him money.
I would hear he's sick, but didn't understand what that meant. 32 years later. Now I know. Thanks to the good doctor, now I know.
What you Don't hear about much when dealing with opiod withdrawal is P.A.W.S. ( post acute withdrawal symptom ). I'd love the Doctor to explain that more in detail. P.A.W.S. can last much longer than just a few months and it can also be very emotionally draining. 👍
Thank you. Currently supporting my son at home wit fentanyl withdrawal and it’s so frightening.
It is scary. Bless you for being there for him, not everyone is blessed enough to have someone support them through this. I hope he is on the mend, I hope he can get the help he needs. I also hope you can find time to recharge emotionally, mentally, spiritually as well as a caregiver.
Don't worry Halea. Its scary to look at but remember, he won't die. Hes got about 4 to 5 days of hell, then hell start to come out of it. If he is able to exercise he will cut the withdrawl time in half. If he hangs in there he will get over it. Ive done it before myself.
How is he doing?
Praying for your son!
Praying for you momma.
Thank you. After spinal surgery I have been on them for 3 months. This is so hard..I will make it, but I don’t wish this on anyone.
Music is something that really helped pass the time for me going through withdrawals. Especially through the horrible insomnia since it compounds my normal pain, but also the severity of withdrawals. Honestly, music meant so much to me going through withdrawals that I felt that when I wasn't going through it that the music didn't mean as much to me, and I missed that healing feeling.
Just remember, this pain is temporary. Just like a stubbed toe in which you won't be thinking about 15 minutes after it happens, you won't be feeling the severe pain 2 to 3 weeks after it. Once you get to that 3 day milestone, just know that it gets better and easier slowly but surely. Don't push yourself, or feel bad about yourself for not doing what you're normally supposed to do.
Also, take into consideration that your body is there for you. It works, thrives, suffers, and spends every last resource keeping you alive for you. Show it the same consideration if you can.
Day 7 cold turkey, i got this. I weened myself down to 20mg Oxy then went cold turkey. Never puked but did have alot of sweating on day 3,4. Used for almost 20 years, Max mg in a day was 80. Good Luck Fam. We got this...
Wow very impressive 🎉
(23/7/16)
4th day, unpleasant feelings and everything feels like shite.
Who ever is going through the same, may you win . Godspeed ✌️
How long were you using for ?
@@VictorZarate-u6f almost 16 years sir.
Thankyou for asking.✌️
are you fine my bro?
@@javiermedina5313 I'm fine for now, thankyou for asking.
Just a little bit scared of relapse because it comes with no warning.
✌️
@@javiermedina5313 I've been using it for almost 14 years, wasted for too long my friend.
The average person cannot understand how horrible opiod withdrawal is until they go through it themselves. Hell on earth. I never knew a human being could feel so bad.
I became addicted in 2013. Blew my knee out at BYU in our game against UCLA.... from there, I had a knee reconstruction on my ACL, MCL, PCL, LCL and meniscus. The pain pills were taken and it started. Reinjured it again less than a year later and my career ended. Depression set in and I didn't want surgery again, so I turned to pain pills again. Downward spiral from there. Now I'm back to me. It sucked at first. But I'm grateful I went through the pain of quitting. It wasn't the pills I was craving. I went through the mental and emotional withdrawal for almost 6 months. It was during the pains of withdrawal that I understood that I was craving something more than the pills could fulfill. When I realized this, I made the decision to take the addiction by the throat and beat it into submission. Been good ever since 2015. Again, it sucked recovering. But it's so worth it to be free!!! If you're quitting, brace for the hard days ahead. But STAY THE COURSE!!!! You will be grateful you did!!! ✊🏾💯
Doc knows what he's talking about. If I was alone no job no home I can count on Medicaid to go to a 30 day treatment and work on myself but for those of us that work. We don't have the luxury of leaving for 30 days even with FMLA you can't leave your family without money coming in for rent and bills. In trapped in hell of copping just to go to work then after work to go to sleep.
A shower, putting on clean clothes, eating, self care does wonders for withdrawal. For me, if I keep my hygiene somewhat in check, it helps opioid withdrawals for me big time. Maybe it’s a psychological thing in that just feeling clean helps the wd process or what it is, but doing those things does wonders for me during detox.
I think your right.showering gets the toxins off your skin that are coming off.
4 days cold turkey, im hurting yall but I ain't going back i reached bottom, please pray for me
I never, ever thought I would find myself here. Thank you for the encouraging words at then end of video. I really, really needed to hear that. Thank you.
No problem, hope you can find the help and support you need. Stay motivated. Even when slip ups happen, try to not let the shame, guilt, frustration convince you that it’s hopeless. Keep pushing, keep fighting.
I really need your help dr. Am an opiod addict and I really want to get over it.
Me neither. Unfortunately, for myself, I don't see a way out. I hope you have success in getting past this.
@@fashiongrup6938 my g just find a doctor near you this is a guy on UA-cam in a complete different area😂
@@gloriae.p.luvr4life394 if you don’t already know, you can buy opioid “research chemicals” aka drugs that are legal and don’t show up on drug tests yet are prescribed in other countries but able to be legally sold on the internet because they haven’t been scheduled here. Let me know if you want the links because it will save you a lotttttttt of fucking money than just buying at insane prices from deug dealers today. The online prices range from 200 dollars for 10 grams to 300 for 30 grams depending on which vendor you use. And if you buy from Chinese vendors instead of US vendors, you save a lot of money there too on bulk. Lmk if you want any info on the research chemical world that a lot of addicts like myself didnt know it existed, and was fucking dumbfounded it did when I did😂I literally found it by being desperate one day and typing in “buy drugs legal online”. And boom, Reddit opened my eyes to a world with numerous online market places that had allllll various type of drugs. Accept they weren’t illegal, and UOU could order them like amazon amd have them shipped to your fucking door! Best day of my life, amd ironically worst day of my life too😂
Recovering AA and NA with over 45 years but I just have today. One day at a time. I enjoyed this info. Knowledge is power and I could share with someone in need. Thank you for sharing this much needed info.
20 years as a heroin addict. Ive tried everything. The only thing that saved me is methadone. Yeah it has a bad name but it stopping me from using. I haven't touched a needle in 4 years
Same. I know I need to get on methadone but I'm scared...
Same here.
❤
You live your life how you see fit my friend. I take suboxone to stay off heroin and it saved my life. There were MANY times in the past 8 years of sobriety that i would've relapsed if it wasn't for suboxone. I have my life and family back and working a full time job. These medications get a bad name but i wouldn't be off heroin today if it wasn't for suboxone.
@@lacymacdougall9660 how are you doing now??
Been clean for just shy of 3 years now. It’s a hard road but it’s worth it.
Thank you Andrew Kim. You’ve reassured me, I’m almost a week without codeine. Had an addiction for 5 years 😐.
I really believe I will quit for good as I want to quit. Thanks for these kind of videos they really help.
@Arizona Rainn hey, thank you for the positivity. Still going strong I’m almost 6 weeks sober and I feel like I’ve got my life back again!
It was a tough few days with withdrawal symptoms but i didn’t give up. I took 2 weeks off of work because I couldn’t work in that state. You can do it, believe in yourself. 🤞 ❤️ 😎
Hey! Did you stick to quitting?
@@johnnydepth6523 sure have man. Been 18 months 😃
@@maverick9767 wow bro I’m just a couple days in and it feels like hell fr my whole body aches and I don’t know who to talk to but I really wanna quit fr
@@johnnydepth6523 Stick with it mate, everyday gets easier trust me.
Just went through Opiate withdrawl and what a hell of a ride! Just when you think the phsyical symtoms are hell then in comes the mental warfare crashing in like the cool aid man. Never been through anything close to being this difficult. Then when the withdrawls are over with, you get strong cravings. Hopefully they go away soon
I really appreciate you sharing some accurate information in knowing how to understand, and what to expect in withdrawal .
I’ve seen a lot of other stuff online that it’s just like making a joke on it. I came through a total knee replacement and have had to deal with being on opioids to deal with the pain and now I need to get off at so thank you so much bless you. I am grateful for people like you who are here to help others heal. 🙏
I am watching this 3rd of april 2024 and I am on day 5 cold turkey after a broken hip and multiple surgeries. I dont think I am suffering as much as some of you. I have NO desire for any painkiller, I do have trouble sleeping, sneezing and yawning, goosbumps but I dont feel moody or cravings. I think I am pretty lucky so far and I really hope it will not kick in later. I have been on just “normal” morphine so I believe that the peak is not coming later since I am already on the 5th day (+100 hours)
4 years clean and sober this June the 4th! To God my blessed savior is the only way I was able to do it. God saved me through the program of AA
To any suffering struggling addict, YOU ARE NOT ALONE! The body aches, sweating, pins and needles feeling on your skin, total discouragement, thinking you can't do this, this isn't possible, the shaking, vomiting, shivering, diarrhea, no energy,
YOU CAN DO THIS, YOU ARE ENOUGH! YOU ARE SO LOVED AND CARED FOR! Don't give up you have a father that loves you so much and brothers and sisters all around the world who love you, even though they have never met you, we love you we know the suffering and pain and torture and pure agony you are feeling but cry out to God he loves you, and know there are so many of us in this world who know what you are going through and know how it feels and dont care about your past we aren't judging you and belittling you about the pain you are in and how you brought it all on yourself, we aren't thinking like that. We are here for you I know how hard it is, stay strong reach out for help there are millions of people in this world who are willing and able to help you through your difficult times and the end result is so much more worth it than we can ever imagine 😀
To anyone who reads this, in case nobody has told you today that they love you, I DO, I love you, and there is nothing you can do about it either 😇
The first visible withdrawal symptoms often were yawning, tearing eyes and later sometimes continuous sneezing.
Exactly this!!! Exact same with me everytime.. yawning, watering eyes and sometimes continues sneezing
And chills
And them horrible leg jolts
@@dannysouthendutdramsay1212 Like a lightning bolt hitting the muscles!
@@dannysouthendutdramsay1212 Good for you - don't give up!
Thank you Dr. Kim!! I am day 4 of cold Turkey withdrawal from heroin and fentanyl. I still feel rotten but am beginning to see light at the end. Thank you for the info and the words of encouragement!!
It's super rough and like hell. I hope you can get the help you need. Keep fighting everyday.
Hang in there you can do it. I have tried so many times to stop using. I take 150 mg of Roxie's a day
I’m starting tomorrow .. goin cold turkey.. how can i make it to 4 days like u????
@@germantorres7002 may I ask how you're feeling and any advice?
@@gerik.oliveras9739 Hey Geri,
I couldn't find our conversation on the other channel but I ended up seeing you here!!
How are you doing??
Sir you have explained it brilliantly and it makes perfect sense, I’m 3 days in and it’s horrendous but I’m going to ride it out, thank you very much for simplifying it 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
You are so straight forward on your videos and have the gift of explaining addictions in such a Simple way. I want to encourage you to keep your passion of posting your videos. I am more than sure that you have been a catalysis of helping so many people. You present and express yourself in such a humble way. And also your knowledge base is second to none. You are an example for me that there are extremely wonderful people in this world as yourself and give so many hope. There is a special place for someone like you and I’m certain you will smile and know when that time comes.
FRFR REALLY DIRECT NICE! simple ❤❤❤❤THX U BOTH OF U FR ❤❤❤
The opioid that I used was Tramadol. I was put on Metadone therapy for 2 months during which the methadone dose was progressively reduced until it was eliminated. The withdrawal symptons started at 48 hours later and I went through HELL, ABSOLUTE HELL, did I mention HELL? for a complete month. I wouldn´t wish it on my worst enemy. I´m glad you did not mince words when you described it. I had extreme anxiety, paresthetias, nausea, vomiting, diarreah, insomnia, pain in the joints, mood changes, fatigue, and one of the worst ones was the feeling of having insects under my skin all over my body that wanted to get out and a few more I can´t remember. Cold showers and using the pool at the facility was the only thing that made things bearable. I am glad I was in a controlled environment or I would have gone back without giving it a second thought either to the Methadone or the Tramadol. My withdrawal sympons started being less horrible at week two. Two questions: Why nobody mentions Tramadol? and why did my withdrawal symptons when I stopped the Methadone took an entire month to more or less go away? Thank you.
Tramadol is not an opiate it's a synthetic You should have never been on methadone just weaned off the tram. These fin Dr's
Very good video Dr. Andrew Kim!
Thanks. Congrats on reaching 1 million subscribers! Amazing achievement, keep bringing us the real news. Man of the people!
👋 my wife and I are big fans of your channel. It is so refreshing to be delivered news in a brief but comprehensive manner seemingly nonpartisan from your perspective. Keep it up. We watch often. 👍
I'll say it again- this is an excellent, informative and accurate post.
I respect the fact that the doctor delivers a message of HOPE.....things can be better.
I'm happy to save this video as my first entry in my 'Health' playlist.
Wishing all of you who need hope lots of it. Don't let prayer be the last resort.....maybe it should happen first., everyday.
Eric Clapton says a prayer of thanks first thing, every morning upon waking, in gratitude for being clean and sober since the early 1980s, and he believes it has kept him that way.
2-3 weeks of daily use??!? Thats insane. I was hooked on day 3.... Spent 6 years addicted. Ans am proud to say im 8 years sober!
Yep.... 3-5 days.... and you've got a habbit.
Yeah that’s the golden rule.. a good 3 days and you’re gonna be in there
I had a few lines of the dragon..but thankfully i did not become addicted. Im very lucky really & thank you Lord❤
3 months and stopped fine. Everyone's different. Careful not to confuse psychological dependency with physical. Also watch for the placebo effect. Sounds like what you're more prone to.
@@contorta960 I assure you.... you are a unicorn. Thank God that He had mercy on you.
Thank you, doctor. Yours is one the most clear, factual, honest and well-paced instructional posts on the subject.
You are welcome!
@@AndrewKimMD dr hi I have a question if opioids send signals that block pain why even if you have super tolerance
Why won’t a 10mg effect pain anymore?
Aren’t the signals still being sent to help pain that you just have
Like chronic pain
Dear Doctor am writing this on 04.02.2023 and today am thinking to quit from this miserable habit of mine. I have tried to do this few times but I relapsed, today I set mind to do it. Please help me. Can you provide any means to contact you ! Please I need help. In my situation I can’t tell this to anyone or get help. Thank god I found your video.
@@chathuragawith9201 I'm now facing this after 20 yrs dr prisctions lowered my dose never explained withdrawal or anything. He said it's his new rule lower patients wasn't anything I did wrong now my primary dr prescribed clodine for anxiety from withdrawal so I should be getting it tomorrow. I'm so beside myself how could a pain dr just tell his patients he takes pain meds then lower patients and never discuss withdrawal.
Thank you for the information Dr. I’m on day 6. I am, thankfully, in a non-using & liberated (not incarcerated) living situation; however that’s where the positive and constructive aspects seem to end. The brain fog and chronic insomnia make it extremely difficult to even express what I am personally going through. This video has aided me and the people with whom I am living with get a better understanding of what’s going on and what’s to come.
I know what you mean I pray for all of you I’m also withdrawing rn 3-5 days in cold turkey I never wanna touch them again I’m truly terrified
@@livelaughlove1190 hi may i ask how you're feeling, i can't get thru a day and a half.
This is music to my ears. It'll be the best decision you've made. So glad you can relate and have chosen to get support from loved ones. Way to go!
Hang in there im with yiu on day 2.
Going thru it now. Car accident in 2021 lead me to this point. I get prescribed it and now i have to wait a week. Im in the 72 hour withdrawal effects and my spinal chord is screaming.
i been using tramadol for about 8 years now, and while it might not be as potent as other opiates i can assure you that the dependence and withdrawal you get from it is very real. i wanna get off it, and the doctors i visited didnt seem to have any real solution to it, even the psychiatrists. so right now im at a crossroads, get off the meds and feel miserable, or keep taking them and feel more normal but with side effects in the long run.
Hi, any update?
@@OTOWN2STOCKTOWN
Since he didn't reply, maybe not so good.
I’ve been on Co-codamol for about 8 years. Went from 4 Co-codamol per week to daily during the ridiculous COVID situation. Within the last 3 weeks I started taking 3 x 2 per day. Realised what was happening and stopped cold Turkey. Day 4 and I feel brighter with less pain! Am supplementing with 2mg Valium x 3 per day. Intend to go 2 x2mg to 1 x 2mg and then review with General Doctor.
I just went from 40mg of oxycodone to 5mg two days ago and I’m deathly afraid to stop, this medication is prescribed but I’ve been on it for along time . I’m feeling crappie and have chills, insomnia, sweating, agitated, twitching legs. I’m trying to work my full time job as well, I need to do this!!!
I just feel exactly the same..and if u have to work at the same time when u withdrawing ...its a torture..and most of the people don't understand that . and they think u lazy and u don't want to work regardless...thats what is the worst of a situation ..specially when lose the job because of it
Switch to Subutex. Way better
40mg to 5mg is a huge taper. How are you doing now?
@@suzybearheart530 I’m doing great, I’ve been off oxycodone for 3 months and to help with the withdrawal symptoms I’m on medical marijuana
@@BigE-qx1jb Great news! Thanks for sharing, it gives me hope I can beat this addiction too.
Thank you! Finally some honesty! I've had too many doctors tell me "mild flu like symptoms" I don't take meds to get high. But now- i only take them to not feel withdrawals. Its unbearable.
Mild flu-like symptoms my ass! I almost wish we could get all the insensitive docs hooked on opioids then cut them off cold turkey so they'd have a better understanding of the total misery. How are you? I made it 3 days last week when I tried cold turkey. It was awful and I gave in. I'm now starting a very gradual taper plan that will take a few months. Then, I'll take a week off work when I finish the taper in case the withdrawal is bad again. Hang in there, you are not alone.
@@suzybearheart530 Thank you for this. In 2018 i found myself locked up in a mental institution. My doc at the time- instead of figuring the cause of my pain- kept throwing pills at me. And i wouldn't refuse, since the back pain would lessen until it didnt and i wud get more pills. For the first time- while in there- the nurses and "shrink" understood what i was going through. I was on 80mg oxycontin 8 times a day, 8 percs, Gabapentin, Lorazepam and seroquel. My body had such a high tolerance that i would run out early. And the worst withdrawal. The doc wud say- oh come on- its mild like symptoms. You can go to work. I wantes to kill myself. This brought me to fentanyl use. To stop the withdrawal. I hated my life. Tried to end it. Hence the 4 month mental institution stay. I begged the hospital to get me off the pills. My "shrink" told me, only way possible is a slow taper. To give you an example how slow the tapper has been- 2022 just begun and I'm on 7 percs a day and Vyvanse. And that's it! But for the first time it feels like i will be off the pills.it feels possible. In a couple weeks- I'll be down to 6. Ect.. Vyvanse for the A.D.H.D I'll most likely stay on. My "shrink" also has it so that i can only pick up my meds once a week. This is to prevent me from taking more. Sometimes, i might depending how bad my back is- but at least its only 1 day early, rather 2 weeks early. Slow taper is where its at! My shrink says only 5mg's every couple of weeks. Thanks again for your message.
I don't mean to be offensive with me calling my doc shrink. Lol i just don't know how to spell his actual role.
@@purpleskittles2117 I'm so happy to hear your taper is going well! It's good they took it nice and slow since you were on some pretty high dosage. I drink poppyseed tea twice a day and so my slow taper is to still have it in the morning and late afternoon but each week I'll use less and less seeds to make the tea weaker and weaker. So far I'm using about 20% less than before. I use a cup to measure and hoping in the next few months to be off for good. Best of luck to you on your taper! Feel free to check in here if you need any words of support.
@@suzybearheart530 congratulations on your successes. I know how hard it is. I've never heard of poppy seed tea! Does this help with withdrawal? And thank you for the support. Warms my heart. Feel free to reach out as well xo
One of my career choice was to become Psychiatrist. I was always told I am good at solving problems. But I choose to a different career path still in Medical field. I like to educate myself in this type of thing. Great video!
Khmerstar I have a question for you my psychiatrist said I have chronic pain syndrome just like my mother and my grandmother. She said there is no shame I stay on opiates the rest of my life because I have not abused them what do you think about that
PS there is so much prejudice I mean from doctors to people who take opiates. They treat Patients like criminals. Whether a person is taking opiates for real physical pain or because you just want to feel better that does not mean you are a bad person.. it is not an ethical issue. Opiate withdrawals should be treated like any other disease. In fact more so. If those doctors knew how much people sufferes they would not wean them off as fast as they do. It is cruel to let humans being suffer so much and be so afraid to tell your doctor that you took extra pills because you needed to clean your house and you couldn't handle your physical pain. They don't hear that at all they see is you're an addict and you didn't do what they said and so now you get nothing.
How is that right ?how is that ethical?not to mention how unmerciful to let people go through opiate withdrawals by themselves, but once you get that written in your chart whether it's true or not if a doctor decides that you have used opiates it is like having a criminal charge on your record question the doctor most doctors don't treat the individual thank God I have a good doctor who does help me but I can't tell her everything. Cuz she's been a little brainwashed also.
I worked in the medical field for 30 years. the way they treated patients with pain was absolutely unethical almost evil. I can't believe in every instance it's all wrong for everyone. I've heard if you take them long-term you get something called fibromyalgia which means the opiates actually start causing you pain. But how can they say that that happens to every individual? Providers have gotten away from treating the individual person. Plus most of us were never told the contraindications of taking opiates long-terms now when we want to get off of them the provider's treat us like we did something wrong i...t's a catch-22..
does anybody know of someone who started a Blog on this. This is one of the last discriminations people have not addressed in this country that too many people are suffering for it. Many facilities never prescribed opiates we still know they are the safest and best analgesic for acute pain
Finally a simple no bs approach , well done doc
this video didnt include an "approach" at all.
I'm about 5 days in right now withdrawal this is the third time I've gone through it I hope and pray it's the last
You matter, hope all is going well 👑
I had to detox after getting pain relievers, and it was indeed hell... Pain is back again, but I take it as a side effect now; never again will I swallow pills for it. Detox was a lesson; pain is a companionship.
To be very honest, I just feel someone who is an ex user would be in the best position to explain the pain and anguish of withdrawal. Its completely unexplainable 😢. To users out there I hope you find a good reason to stop and to people like me who are willing to, I hope and pray you find the necessary help and support you seek. ❤
BTW, thank you Doc.😊
I can handle a detox, don't like it and extremely horrible weakness, anxiety, insomnia and shakes....never had restless leg in my 20 plus detoxes, almost 2 years clean...but OMG the PAWS and weeks of insomnia was always the real test for me....everyone is different, but that was always what broke me psychologically, especially when i was homeless and medicaid only covered a 5 day detox, the weak as hell, back on the streets with only a bus pass to my name...luckily had family that finally paid for a ticket to Montana, and had no choice but to duke it out for a long week or 2 on the couch. Sucks.
That was an excellent video!!!!Thank you Dr. Kim ! I am a herion addict , clean for 4 years via methadone !! But your compassion will help addicts realize they are still wonderful people! 30 mgs left ,and I'm done ,slow and steady ! I figure 5 MORE months !!!!! I have therapist and counseled, and see psychiatrist! Keep looking forward!!! GOD BLESS YOU DR.KIM !
It is so hard. My doctor did not know how to withdraw it but they give it 10 years ago like candy. I am halve way noe. It is even hell when it is jot cold turkey. Stay strong!
I was on heroin and metherdon for over 33 years im now nealy a year clean i now feal better now then i ever did on opits trust me if i can do it enyone can its so werth it trust me ❤❤
Thanks Dr. I am on 2 day without heroin, and I'm fighting to get clean up thanks once again Dr.
How are u now ? Did you continue to get clean after this comment ?
Thank you Doctor, This is completely accurate. I find the issue with many people, and a "friend" of mine, is the inability to survive the financial burden of getting off them and function enough to work. it is an impossible task unless you have some sort of extended benefits that will ensure you keep a roof over your head and cover other bills if you have hit rock bottom(no pun intended). I hope to establish a channel/club that can generate enough funds to assist and advocate for people going through these types of issues. Not just opiates, but other challenges that limit many people from living their passion in life. Many humans are not sitting in their right seat in life's journey and this can lead to mental health issues that drive them to copping mechanisms that will only cripple them more. We need to help each other and be compassionate and drop the stigma around substance dependency.
Very accurate. People need to know this before they use. It will be the longest weeks of your life getting clean again. Absolute hell, incredible discomfort without any relief. Don't ever start. I started because a girl I liked used... That almost cost me my life. Don't do it.
My friend quit opiates 7 years ago. Now he uses it on occasion, usually for less than a week. He says that even after a year of not using it he still has a tolerance. He says that after a week of use he gets a slight withdrawal... A mild one, that lasts for about 5days.
That’s all in his head. No one gets withdrawal after using opiates for a week. U know how many ppl are prescribed narcotics for after surgery? If used as prescribed for a week or two u won’t get withdrawals and if you do it won’t be hell like ur saying. He’s probably using dope or fentanyl
My brother died about a year ago from opiods, he just couldnt stop and drove his family away with his ridiculous behavior, we couldnt help him anymore he became impossible to trust anymore because he was always after the drugs no matter who he hurt. Best thing is to never start in the first place.
Thank u..u helped a lot. U gave me a lot of answers. I'm only on day 2 of quitting and I have all the withdrawel symptoms. I hate the insomnia and muscle aches most..
Still clean?
Hey. How did you get on with coming off? I am now on day 4 and the only things i still have Is dancing legs at night, a little insomnia. I feel abit depressed on and off.
I have been on Codeine for a long time due to my back and a fall i had that hurt my arm. But i decided enough is enough and chucked my remaining pills and went Cold turkey. I think i am doing well so far. I hope you have done too 🙂
@@michelajoe7930 Unfortunately I started again when I got Covid and felt horrible. So now I started the quitting process again...its going well since I know now what to expect and how long it takes...Thank u for asking!
@@AD-wr1gr Oh great Job! I hope u r doing well. I start er again but it just did not feel the same. It just felt stupid and I felt stupid. So I have to go to withdrawel again but In going to make it...insomnia is, by far, the worst part imo..
I have 2 bulging discs L4-L5 I started with 1 Norco 750 every 4-6 hours for pain . Over a period of time I end up taking 30-35 Norco or vicaden a day for 6-7 years . I was prescribed 60 a month . I wound up having to buy them from the streets . I wound up having to take that many to avoid withdrawals which is the worst thing that I went through . After getting help I'm 11 years clean thankfully I was able to get off them or I would not be here today I'm surprised but thankfull that all my blood work is good for liver . I wish I had never touched a Norco or vicaden it was some of the worst times in my life .
I have been on 130 mg of morphine er for 15 years. I ran out for 3 days before my script was refilled and it sucked. My main thing was restless leg syndrome and twitching, drove me crazy. I want to get off this stuff it is horrible and doesn't work for me anymore. I feel for all of you who are going through withdrawal.
I was on opioids for 6 years i stop using it cold 3 months ago cold turkey, I try suboxone an I caught an allergic reaction i woke up with my lips an chick swallowed I ended up in the hospital.. the withdrawal of this is unbearable almost lost my family cz of the lies an the abuse, I’m trying to stay positive but it’s hard but God has help me fight the very day temptation..I might sound corny or whatever but praying has help tremendously I kid you not when I pray it’s like the craving goes away little by little..just sharing my story God bless everyone an hope y’all get through this disease..🙏🏽🙏🏽
I'm in Witdrawl right now and this gives me hope and makes me educated and this doc tells exjectly what I'm thinking the psychological affect the anxiety everything I'm thinking to go through detox but it's expensive here I can't afford it right now but I'm trying hard
So sorry..
Take a few at home remedies for some relief.
Hey how are you feeling right rn now?
Tremadol
Use it
@@renuwarabegum769 does tramadol works for withdrawl? Im in day 1..i feel like crap.. and i have tramadol in my home sobwant to know if that helps
I relapsed for 5 months again, but this time I took the command on myself and on my 6day clean. Takes a lot and lot of effort
5:20 Yessir, absolutely. I'll never forget the day I stopped taking my prescription for Suboxone. It truly was Hell on Earth...or on my central nervous system anyway. I swear I could feel the molecules of the opioid detaching from my spine, as my nerves reawakened and began "feeling" all of the various input stimuli of simply lying in bed. Shaking, shivering, diarrhea, sweating, aching everywhere, and just wishing it would end. I wouldn't wish that experience on anyone.
Very interesting spine / molecule description. In detox from fentanyl I had , among many other things , EXTREME discomfort in my spine between my shoulder blades that literally made me in a psychotic episode try and climb the walls . This is the closest analogy I’ve seen to what I was feeling . Anyway , close to 3 years clean , no subs , no methadone . Hope you are living life . 🙏
How long did the withdrawal last I been off Suboxone for 5 days now
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No vicodin day 26! Depression and gut wrenching cramps lifting. I'm going to be ok. Thank you for strength Jesus.
Ghb has been a lifesaver for me. And it completely takes away withdrawal and let's you sleep.
What is ghb?
I wish I had a doctor like you....great talk.
"So you ran out..."
Every addict and former addict here just had a minor panic attack.
The worst realization. And then you start going through your bags and stuff, hoping you'll magically find something, while knowing full well there is nothing there. It sucks.
This video has been lifesaving information.
Also, the longer one uses for the faster dependence restarts. If a 5 year user gets clean for 2 weeks, and then starts again, they’ll be dependent within a few days.
This is thus far the best video explanation on UA-cam & I’ve watched tons! Thank you so much! 🙏🏼
Anyone reading this struggling mentally well after the time period that’s talked about here I would like to share something . For an entire year after being clean from a decade long pills to heroine to fentanyl addiction with alcohol the entire time .. I had slightly fogged vision , brain fog , lethargy . I was convinced I fried my brain forever and became suicidal . Staying clean the entire time I snapped out of it about 15 months in . Almost like flipping a switch . In hindsight it was mind boggling . I now am more productive than ever . Please , please don’t give up . Your bran CAN repair 🙏
Thanks Doc. You nailed it by offering something that's never occurred to me. Kicking is absolutely all the effects of using opioids in reverse. Bam.... it's like I've had an epiphany. I'll be walking that road again sometime in the near future. Just doing a bit of research on having some kind of help by way of medicinal assistance. Locking myself away for a while is not a great option for me. It's my bad and I gotta deal with it as I'm certain this isn't the path I'm supposed to walk until I exit.
Again, thanks Doctor.
Thi🎀s explanation was what I needed. My son passed away on fentanyl 1 month ago, Thank u
6 days in and I feel amazing 3rd day was yuk. The mental part is what I struggle with
How long did the severe stuff last? At day 2 I start throwing up and can't stop..like every 5-10 min and can't eat or drink. So I always slip up and go back just to stop throwing up and feeling like death. I feel if I can do 72 hours I wouldn't go back. Been on fin for 2 years. Half g a day
@@Memphis_Mafia depending on what you do to help your body detox could significantly reduce the severity and time. I recommend staying hydrated by drinking coconut water only because it has a lot of potassium and magnesium which helps the body rehydrate especially because your vomiting a lot plus these minerals with help your body really calm down and relax. Also if you are hydrated the body can expel those toxins out of your body so much quicker. Before you know it you will be feeling 50% better. Just don’t throw in the towel so easily the fight is so worth it I promise. If you want to know more reply to this and I’ll be happy to help brother.
@@Memphis_Mafia me to Its crazy i been in the same situation as you
@@Memphis_Mafia I hear u. I can access methadone if needed
@@anthonyesposito174 I wish I could get on methadone or suboxone, but unfortunately i don't have the $$ nor the resources
On painkillers forever. 100 milligrams methadone for 5 years had to quit cold turkey. 7 years clean. It was hell.
Hell is accurate. 7 years clean is amazing. Keep up the motivation. Thank you for sharing
What did you use to help you when going through the withdrawals after the 100 mg of methadone ?
I hope I can end my addiction soon, It.destroyed my relationship with my girl😢💔, also alot of good job offers keep me in u prayers y'all...
Hey are you holding up?
You can do it. Don't give up.
Your "ex girlfriend" is better off without you.I don't feel sorry for you at all. If you knew better you'd do better.
I'm on day 5, and I'm starting to feel better, mater of fact I'm starting to feel better that I was on opioids.
Anyone who needs someone to talk to about this feel free to comment on this. I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice just words from someone who had been through this three times due to chronic pain conditions. The symptoms are exactly as he described hell and if you don’t know what your getting into it can be incredibly scary. Ps I never used more than prescribed or longer than prescribed I was never mentally addicted but was definitely dependent so if I can help others I hope to do that.
Hi, My name is Missy. I would love someone to talk to, and get advice from. I'm very scared. I was put into a very bad situation by my Dr. I am taking my medication strictly for chronic pain as well. I've never had an addiction problem. They lied to me and told me suboxone was used for Chronic pain and now I'm stuck on it and I want off of it. I'm SCARED TO DEATH. I've never been through withdrawal in my life. I don't know what to do. I'm terrified.
Anyone on here can talk to me. I am currently addicted to opiates and I have relapsed and gone through withdrawals a few times. Anyone have questions about withdrawals let me know. I’ve been hooked on oxys on and off and suboxone too.
@@bonefuckinsawmcgraw Hey how are you? Have you ever been through suboxone withdrawal? I'm SCARED. Can you give me advice how to get through it?
@@axloz6494 currently going through a relapse on and off with OxyContin. Best advice to get through it is TO NOT BE SCARED. your mindset has a bigger portion to do with it than your body. I’ve noticed through different withdrawals I’ve gone through that after the first intense 3 days the pain will only stop through your mindset. If you want to quit these so bad look at it as a war with your mindset. Don’t let the bad thoughts get to you. The more I think about oxys the more I feel the pain and depression of the withdrawals. The first time I went through withdrawals sadly was the worst because I was scared just like you. The first 3 days is pain because that’s when your body is like where the hell did it go?
So you start feeling like you’re literally sick and you think the worst thoughts and this is what causes people to keep using or switching to something worse. The best advice I can give you is if you really want to stop using. You will get through it. Just think about getting clean and I wish you the best of luck. I myself haven’t fully quit all the way. It may take some time a lot of people like myself relapse
@Mini Marcle Imodium, 1 a day men’s, gabapenton if you are prescribed it, Ambien if prescribed it, Ativan if prescribed it. Take all of these for 1-2 weeks no longer. Also stock plenty of gateraid and liquid means such as ensure. If you have a heating pad make sure it works and have plenty of easy things to watch but don’t push them too much.
I remember the first time I quit opioids and had no idea I was physically addicted. I thought I was gonna die.
It was Hell! Not going back. When I think about those 3-5 days, I cry.
Glad that's behind you, stay strong Delisa. Even though it was a dark time, you can use that as a source of motivation like you're doing. Thanks for sharing.
I cry too when I think of the hell. I feel like it changed me forever.
I have been going on for two weeks I withdrawals from oxycodone and morphine that I was getting from my pain management doctor. But the last visit she told me she can’t help me no more and I can’t have my meds so I’ve decided I’m gonna beat this it’s been hard just like the rest of you were talking feels like you’re going through hell but I know this there’s got to be victory on the other side but I’m with y’all you’re not alone on this but hang in there two weeks strong and still going I hope it eases up soon the nights are the longest I don’t know why but it is. God bless you everyone
The one thing I wish he would have discussed at least in SOME detail was the difference between Fentanyl and almost every other opiate/opioid when it comes to Suboxone. Maybe he does cover it more in the actual sub video, idk for sure, I haven't watched it, but for people who come across this, it would be VERY important information to have.
Fent is fat-soluble, like how cannabis is, versus almost every other one being water-soluable. Water-soluable drugs tend to enter and exit your system faster - even with heavy use, maybe 3-5 days and it's completely out - but fent will just absolutely SIT in your system, and if you are going to go the route of using Suboxone for management, this has MAJOR implications.
Precipitated withdrawal, which he did refer to, can occur when you take Suboxone before the opioids have completely left your body's opiate receptors. Suboxone is extremely competitive and has a "bind and block" action instead of "bind and activate" like other drugs, so it WILL kick out anything you didn't get rid of and you will go into the worst version of withdrawal for anywhere from 1-8 hours (usually an average of 6 hours).
I waited FIVE full days from my last dose of fent to take a dose of subs and the immediate sweating told me I made a very big mistake. I've been in it before, but this was so much worse than anything prior, so I did even end up in the hospital, not able to lay still and just twisting in agony with muscle contractions I thought was definitely going to tear some tendon or ligament with how contorted I had to be to get ANY amount of relief.
The point of this is, if you're on fent (like most people taking "heroin" cuz it's rare to even find anymore), and you do your induction visit for the first time with the doc, if it's been less than at LEAST 72 hours, TELL the doctor this and that it's fent your dealing with, because if you were a heavy user, you've got A LOT built up in your body and it doesn't come out quickly.
The best option in this case (though the vast majority of drs aren't going to authorize this themselves, but they'll tell you that it IS a good strategy) is to try and change from using fent to a water-soluable version (morphine, oxys, etc.) that you can use for substitution to a drug that leaves your body much faster and therefore minimizes your risk of hurting yourself. Otherwise, you REALLY need to be careful and leave significant time to clear everything out.
Just my two cents from a dude who made the same dumb mistake that I wish on NOBODY, ever ☺️
Wow thanks . For sharing definitely going to share with my brother
@@chloewright4809 harm reduction is important, and precipitated withdrawal is nothing BUT harm when you're trying to do right.
I'm glad this knowledge is reaching at least some people.
I’m about three days in and I’m going through the extreme thick of it now getting off of Suboxone after 13 years of everyday use. I’m literally shaking uncontrollable as I write this. By God great all mighty!; I’m going through this with his help and The only stock that drives me on three is to know that I will see myself perfectly OK and alright some day on the other side. I am so focused I’m looking forward to hopefully someday not being in any tremendous amount of pain; having my energy back and not being tired all the time like I have been for the last 13 years. I can say that for the patients who swapped over from OxyContin and all forms of various types of narcotic pain pills. From my experience the withdrawal symptoms aren’t quite as bad but they can still be pretty intense!
Stay strong!!! You can do this. I'll have you in my prayers
@@vesnalozanoska4655 Thank you! I finally made it to day 13 and I’m finally feeling much better!
@@russellwright1422 you got this. I know!!! Just stay strong. Much love ❤ It's going to get better I promise. I know how you feel, I've been there
I'm sending you virtual hugs from Eastern Europe. North Macedonia 🇲🇰 Skopje
I've been on everything he's talking about! I am only a week free from methadone and it's the absolute worst drug I've ever come off of!!! I hate it!! This has been my life for 40years and I'm going into detox on the 1st. It's like my whole body has been awaken and driving me crazy!!!!