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  • @didiwu8876
    @didiwu8876 Рік тому +31

    Thank you! Finally, a sane person in a Linux community. I was seriously getting fed up with these "influencers" and the community that's so delusional and hypocritical.

    • @drawde111
      @drawde111 Рік тому +2

      @@SecularSkeptic It's amazing how one can ramble on about ones decline without a single piece of statistical fact.

  • @lindsay1971
    @lindsay1971 Рік тому +16

    "It was just an affiliate link, just like.... Just like this!?" 😂😂

  • @walter_lesaulnier
    @walter_lesaulnier Рік тому +13

    Someone absolutely MUST create a distro called "My Left Testicle".

  • @xxdragonkiller57xx82
    @xxdragonkiller57xx82 Рік тому +13

    waiting an extra 2 seconds to open firefox isn't a big deal. i don't understand why that's such a major issue.

    • @johanb.7869
      @johanb.7869 Рік тому

      @H Forget the deb. Install the tar ball. Always the latest version and updates earlier than the deb.

    • @matthiasbendewald1803
      @matthiasbendewald1803 Рік тому

      On my older (couch surfing) laptop it starts in 25 seconds instead of 6. I counted the seconds, so the real numbers might be a bit different

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech Рік тому +2

      EXACTLY. 99,99999% of all Ubuntu/Snap users will never ever ever ever notice or complain. Its just us neckbeards whining about every little minutia 😅

    • @MrHwilRRR
      @MrHwilRRR Рік тому

      Facts!

  • @tell1998
    @tell1998 Рік тому +10

    Me and you are the same with this video. To me I became an Ubuntu fanboy when it comes to a professional and gets out of my way distro. Fedora is great and professional but from the start I have to customize a lot to get it how I want it, with Ubuntu I don't have to customize it much to get it how I want it.
    Unity was my favorite and I did support Ubuntu for adding Snaps (I admit I was disappointed Snaps were slow but I don't have to hunt for PPAs for latest packages) but Ubuntu hears people complaining about Firefox Snap and they are improving it.
    Imo Ubuntu from 20.04 to 21.10 I felt like they only cared about the servers and cloud but 22.04 they were really caring to both cloud, server, and now back to the desktop. It really shows when I see Snap apps for the desktop speed improving.

  • @MrWarneet
    @MrWarneet Рік тому +20

    Yes I watched that video along with many others knocking Ubuntu yet all fail to provide a convincing reason. Ubuntu is one of the top and most popular desktop vehicles for Gnome. That alone speaks for itself don't you agree? The snap controversy is a joke as far as I can see.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      Agree 👍

    • @xandernp7470
      @xandernp7470 Рік тому +3

      a convincing reason could be the fact that ubuntu ships with snap packages which are god awful and therefore the criticism is certainly not a joke.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      @@xandernp7470 Dude you need a life. Why so mad at people having another opinion than you.

    • @user-ty2fd5nu6u
      @user-ty2fd5nu6u Рік тому +1

      @@xandernp7470 oH No i hAvE To wAiT A SeCoNd lOnGeR FoR ThE PrOgRaM To lOaD, mY ZoOmEr aTtEnTiOn sPaN CaN'T HaNdLe tHaT

    • @MakeLinuxSimple
      @MakeLinuxSimple Рік тому

      I just have to respond to that "The snap controversy is a joke as far as I can see." No it is not. Snaps, flatpacks and app images are handy from a developer and end user perspective but for the complete opposite reasons I will never argue with that. The problem is the amount of universal packagers in the system. If there is to much, the system start to be slow and clumsy and needs much more resources just to function. Which means You need a much more resources to run your system and you end up with less of them to do your work.
      Operating system is nothing more but a software layer of communication between me and my hardware. My resources are here to do the job not to run the system, system should go out of my way in any possible form. BTW yes I use universal packages formats but only if it is absolutely necessary Im not against them.

  • @folksurvival
    @folksurvival Рік тому +14

    I think it is fair to say that slower software is worse than faster software.

  • @andromydous
    @andromydous Рік тому +10

    None of his "points" are distro specific. Most, if not all of them, are based in bias, personal user experience and assumptions rather than facts.

  • @psravan
    @psravan Рік тому +4

    Another gem of a video. I literally say the same things in my mind when I'm watching these videos. You're the best @TRG

  • @Apollolabsphoto
    @Apollolabsphoto 22 дні тому

    thank you for this video, im a photography channel but this video really helped me with 'is it just me or is this guy kinda talking rubbish?' a snap of opera opens blazingly fast, faster than their flatpack, because the snap has more sane defaults. same with other apps.

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech Рік тому +5

    Yepp, just made a vid on Linux Mint and lost a few words about Ubuntu and what a giant it is 🙏

  • @Smittron
    @Smittron Рік тому +5

    Ubuntu 22.04 has seven snap packages installed - one from Mozilla and
    the others from Canonical. The only delay I notice is with Firefox
    which isn't really that bad. If snaps are unreliable and not secure
    then that's a different issue. Ubuntu server 20.04 and 22.04 each have
    three snaps.

  • @tofunoodles
    @tofunoodles 18 днів тому

    06:00 how often do people reopen their apps? I genuinely have no clue how long my apps take to load. I turn on my computer, grab a bottle of water and when I'm at my desk all of my apps are open. What matters to me is that they don't crash. In which case I might have to suffer for a minute waiting for it to open again. I use Windows btw.

  • @androth1502
    @androth1502 Рік тому +4

    i can't imagine why this snappack i'm launching on a virtual machine is slower than my native apps.
    btw, apps from the microsoft store have the same annoyances as snaps/flatpaks. they are self-contained environments. if you want plugins/extensions or themes, you are generally stuck with whatever ships with the image. if you want all the things, you'll need to install a native app.

    • @androth1502
      @androth1502 Рік тому

      @Nikhil Dhiman i've had problems with several apps on there to the point that i don't even bother anymore. i just download apps from the app's website and install native.
      while the option may be available ( i didn't see in visual studio ), they are certainly encouraging the use of self contained images when developing with WinUI3 and .NET6+MAUI. pretty much required for MAUI i think, but that's a different thing.

  • @user-ty2fd5nu6u
    @user-ty2fd5nu6u Рік тому +3

    FInally a linux user who doesn't say UbUtU bAd, SnAp BaD

  • @peterkoi1535
    @peterkoi1535 Рік тому +7

    It's very weird the fact that people take for granted that ubuntu is declining
    I mean... a little bit of research and they will see that Ubuntu is in the top of the market share (mostly)

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech Рік тому +5

      Yepp, Ubuntu is the #1 and will stay there. 💪

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому

      They just mean in popularity as a desktop OS, which is true.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +5

      Nope Ubuntu is still the most used desktop linux

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому +2

      @@KentsTechWorld I'm sure that's true but it is declining in popularity and "trend" which you also said yourself in the video. Even if that popularity decline is only with the small niche of vocal Linux users online it is still a decline. It doesn't mean it is not used or liked, or that the popularity won't increase again in the future but currently the popularity of Ubuntu is declining. Currently it is less trendy than it used to be. Right now the popularity of Fedora is increasing (as you also said), maybe next year it will be openSUSE Tumbleweed (my prediction is that Tumbleweed will get that attention eventually too) or maybe next year it will be Ubuntu again. The same can be said about tiling window managers. They are a used by a tiny percentage of users but the popularity of various twms increases or decreases over time. i3wm used to be the most popular but that popularity declined and then bspwm was the thing, then DWM etc. Even though i3wm might still be the most used it is not the most popular right now in terms of trend. The attention it had has declined in that way.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +4

      @@folksurvival well if we want to bend everything then everything can mean everything and nothing, being in a decline among "power" users, don't mean a decline over all and is not really a decline. The way he made the video make it look like it was in general and if you look at it like that, it's not in a decline. he did not say anything about what user group he is talking about so we much assume he means over all, and that's not true, even if the hardcore users of Ubuntu is in a decline. i was also talking generally with the * that for hardcore users he could have a really small point. So use my words against me right ;)

  • @Ghfvhvfg
    @Ghfvhvfg Рік тому +2

    Most people don’t want to install a package that’s not supported by default.

  • @HopliteSecurity
    @HopliteSecurity Рік тому +2

    Great video! ❤

  • @tonywise198
    @tonywise198 Рік тому +4

    I might dislike a distro personally (and I don't particularly favour Ubuntu) BUT I really get fed up with so-called "influencers" knocking different distros of Linux (for whatever reason). There are enough outside the community to do that for us without joining in. In-fighting never looks good and only bodes ill. Use whatever distro (or even non-GNU/Linux OS) that suits you, and leave everyone else to their own. I could, for instance moan about the decline in clean shaven men! Grow up people.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech Рік тому +1

      AMEN Tony! 🙏 Oh I'm so gonna make a video about that 💪

    • @tonywise198
      @tonywise198 Рік тому +1

      @@ArniesTech I'll look out for it.

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому

      You shouldn't allow something so trivial as Linux distros have such an emotional effect on you.

    • @tonywise198
      @tonywise198 Рік тому

      Linux Distros do not have an emotional effect on me. I don't give a flying f**k , except non-Linux users really enjoy knocking it and some people in the community seem hell-bent on helping them. Me? I just get on with using whatever OS I'm using :-)

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому

      @@tonywise198
      "Linux Distros do not have an emotional effect on me. I don't give a flying f**k"
      There's no point in denying it now when you already admitted it, quote:
      "I really get fed up with so-called "influencers" knocking different distros of Linux"

  • @drawde111
    @drawde111 Рік тому +3

    UA-camrs place so much emphasis on Firefox's startup time and don't realise there is more one can do on a DE than repetitively start firefox. Any sane user would use a browser, not benchmark the start up time.

    • @albussd
      @albussd Рік тому +2

      Exactly, Edward! Bang on. These complainers whine about 5 seconds of extra start up time and don't realize that that it's nothing compared to how much progress humanity has made in computing speeds. They fail to look at it from a big picture perspective. We are unfortunately living so fast in this modern, industrialized world that a browser taking few seconds extra to start up is perceived as a major inconveience. Mind blowing.

  • @CGA111
    @CGA111 Рік тому +2

    You've got yourself a new subscriber. This was a golden roast of this utterly clueless guy.

  • @proletar-ian
    @proletar-ian 15 днів тому

    This is a great reaction video. I appreciate the pragmatic nature of your arguments. It's made me reconsider how I feel about accepting having some proprietary software on my system.

  • @tristanwait4itlegendary
    @tristanwait4itlegendary Рік тому +2

    i was scrolling through the comments when i heard this sound 12:55 LOL

  • @PrateekTade
    @PrateekTade Рік тому +1

    I guess they could just put a clearer boundary between development for desktop and server, and then probably focus on making snaps better on the server side and then bringing them to desktop. Server is their priority and brings the money and pays the salaries, so their efforts would be well compensated too.
    Snaps might not be bad enough to completely scrap, but they might not really be ready to deliver the same level of performance as native applications. Granted native applications might have issues of their own, but even those might get solved while improving the snap performance.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      They kinda do the have teams for that. and they have a server ISO and a desktop ISO, we also have to remember the company is not really that big, so splitting things up to much would be more of a hassle and a benefit

  • @LoveJoyPeaceAndHopeForAll
    @LoveJoyPeaceAndHopeForAll Рік тому +1

    Plus, OS are never end-products. It's an evolution. It grows and changes by demands. Sometimes it hits the nail on the head, sometimes it does not. The bottom-line is, it keeps on moving!

  • @MartinKuhlen
    @MartinKuhlen 4 місяці тому

    CTT... Gods gift to the LInux community. Good video Kent!

  • @nickoct7472
    @nickoct7472 Рік тому +2

    I also don't like snap packages but rather than complain I would either use Linux Mint or my favourite Linux Lite.

  • @matthiasbendewald1803
    @matthiasbendewald1803 Рік тому +8

    While I mostly agree, Titus point that the user experience for Firefox on Ubuntu is quite bad holds true. The user starts up his machine, and starts Firefox which takes longer than on any os he used before.
    And the store being hosted by canonical is also not the problem; other distributions or developers can't simply put up their own snap store and that is an issue, although Titus doesn't make that clear enough.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +5

      Snaps being slow is not the same as Ubuntu being slow. Snaps are slow on every distro. But he makes it out to mean that if Snaps are slow, Ubuntu is slow, by that logic fedora, arch, gentoo, debian and any other distro that use Snaps are slow. And you can make your own store its been done before, it just don't have the same validation and can be hard to use and setup.

    • @matthiasbendewald1803
      @matthiasbendewald1803 Рік тому +4

      @@KentsTechWorld The point here is that after installing Ubuntu or whatever on my PC, I don't care at all which program is shipped in which form. So the out of the box experience on Ubuntu is bad, no matter what the cause is; and it's canonicals "fault". They do a great job on this distribution, but my opinion is that this critic is just valid.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +5

      @@matthiasbendewald1803 agree. But that don't make Ubuntu slow only Firefox

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому +1

      @@KentsTechWorld True but why don't Ubuntu choose to not provide Firefox that way by default like other distributions? You said Mozilla wanted that, so did Mozilla make some kind of deal with Canonical? Or donated or contributed to their project on the condition that they make Firefox a Snap by default? Maybe it would be a topic you could make a video about. If you made that video you could also emphasize the point in general that distros are mostly not responsible for the component parts that are built and maintained by different developers which is something people still struggle to understand for some reason. Like you pointed out in this video how Gnome functions is a Gnome issue, not Ubuntu.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +3

      @@folksurvival read the the links i provided as to why they wanted firefox as a snap, i think i even posted it as a snapshot. They wanted it as a snap so they only have to do one PKG format, and only do ONE deve branch for all of ubuntu's distros. so they don't have to maintain a deb file for 21.10, 22.04 22.10 and so on, they only have to do one snap. so i have addressed what you asking fore

  • @GambiaTech
    @GambiaTech Рік тому

    Since when did he say he hate Proprietary Software?

  • @linkdesink
    @linkdesink Рік тому +2

    Great video, I am using fedora because i like newer packages.Ubuntu is great distro and it is my first choice to install for family and friends.
    About chris don't bother with him, he has made a video on how to speed up win 10 or something like that. he always says that he is a MS expert with all Microsoft certificates etc.
    In this video he has said that you must disable SDD defragmentation on windows because defrag destroys the SSD disks, I have written a comment and i have explained to him that windows on ssd are perfoming trim and not defrag. I hope that he has understood.
    I really feel sorry for the new windows or linux users that they are things like windows can destroy your SSD. you must immediately disable the defrgamentation.
    One last thing he says all the time ubuntu is slow, i have seen a lot of benchmarks like the phoronix ones, Ubuntu is almost always faster than fedora

  • @doughnut_panda
    @doughnut_panda Рік тому +4

    TitusTech was all over the place on this video. I used to be subscribed to this guy but started to see a lot of nonsense.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech Рік тому +1

      Bold claims sell better. Period 😅

    • @tonywise198
      @tonywise198 Рік тому +3

      Not so long ago (3 years), CT was bashing Windows. I await his conversion to an iMac (Meant as a Tongue-in-cheek comment).

  • @menzokruizinga
    @menzokruizinga Рік тому +3

    I always say if you don’t like don’t use it
    But stop whine about it I am so sick of it

  • @bertnijhof5413
    @bertnijhof5413 10 місяців тому

    Ubuntu right or wrong, my distro!
    Chris Titus is concentrating on clickbait!

  • @JohnJohn-nh2rl
    @JohnJohn-nh2rl 11 місяців тому

    Im here using pop_OS thanks to Ubuntu

  • @magisteriumemporium1411
    @magisteriumemporium1411 Рік тому +1

    I really like the last part about ubuntu not controlling Gnome. Remember a couple of years ago where the ubuntu people asked the gnome devs to implement something and they refused. Yeah prople forget that. As much as gnome devs have the right to gnome, ubuntu has as much right to treat their software. For the most part, ubuntu is great.

  • @cretsiah2
    @cretsiah2 Рік тому +1

    im not against proprietary software otherwise i wouldnt be able to play as many games on my PC

  • @elGringo69
    @elGringo69 Рік тому +1

    LMAO

  • @child_of_god_
    @child_of_god_ Рік тому +2

    we need a competition against windows and linux is a good one.
    but!
    you guys are so separated and divided that vendors aren't eager to give support or to what distro to give support, that users are sacrificed.
    i tried linux and switched back to windows due to this

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +3

      i have said that for 25+ years of using Linux. but linux is one big mess of people think they now better then people coding and making hardware, why well cos they say so, and they know's what best, even tho most have never wrote a line of code in their life

  •  Рік тому +3

    I use ubuntu

  • @LinuxLightHouse
    @LinuxLightHouse 6 місяців тому

    I don't have any opinion on Ubuntu or Titus. Positive or negative.
    But I am sure Titus spends most of his day smelling his own farts and telling people how awesome he is.
    I could be wrong. Just my observation. I am sure he knows more than me. But then again i don't huff my own farts. Maybe I should start.

  • @MakeLinuxSimple
    @MakeLinuxSimple Рік тому +1

    Hey mate 4:20 he want to show that snaps are slow and he did he do not want to show that snaps on fedora or ubunt. behaves in the same way which they probably are common.
    Ok I do not like ubuntu buisness decisions "everything is snap now". I think I know why they do it, yet I do not like it. That being sed, you can always kick out snaps and snapd from your system and replaced them with deb packages. Those who do not like snaps do not use ubuntu because it is slow and in some way messie, or they nuke snaps completely. It is simpler to install anything without snaps embedded in to the system by default. So for knowledgeable user ubuntu is done, for the rest of the users it is just an easy to use system. So 95% of ubuntu users does not give a sh*t about all this snap nonsense. My linux install is horrifyingly stripped down, 99.8% users will not do this. Is that mean that default debian is a bad system and you should not use it. No It only means Im a mod freak who want his system ti have crazy small memory footprint with full functionality. BTW.
    Im back to debian for good. Yet I miss some opensuse default features.
    TRG Thx for introducing opensuse to me

  • @debasishraychawdhuri
    @debasishraychawdhuri Рік тому +1

    If you don't value sandboxing that is available on snap packages, you know nothing about security. It is absolutely worth losing two seconds of your life launching an app if that gives you way better security.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      Snaps and flatpak's are not true sandboxing, they live in a sort of middle ground, but yes it's better then deb's and rpm's on that point.

  • @timandrews6828
    @timandrews6828 Рік тому +1

    Enthusiasts have never favored Ubuntu proper. In the past, Ubuntu was the easiest distro for an enthusiast to install on a noob's PC for them. That's no longer the case because there are distros derived from Ubuntu and Arch to choose from for noobs. Ubuntu is still used by folks who appreciate a Linux desktop, but don't care enough to post about it on Reddit. It's kind of like the Toyota Camry of distros. I installed Kubuntu on my son's PC because he is too young to tweak his desktop and I am not in it very much. I want to set it, and forget it for five years (performing updates of course) until the next LTS comes out. I would be hesitant to install Mint or KDE Neon on it - I really appreciate what those distros are doing, and I appreciate KDE as a whole overall, donating to them, etc., but though still unlikely, Mint would be much more likely to have the same fate as Antergos than would Ubuntu.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      i would say that's not true, when ubuntu came out it was the distro to use for everyone up till around 2010, where it became so much used that the core fans started to dislike it, linux people don't like things that are to popular lol. i know a lot of people that have been using linux for 10+ years that still like ubuntu and use it. Where ubuntu is not liked it with the " i want to feel special" people :D but those always have something to moan about. There are still a lot of devs that love ubuntu for the ease of use as a dev station, and there are just as many if not more that love ubuntu as a server for the ease of use when it comes to setting it up and the support it have for all kind of companies. Also remember if you can, ubuntu made a few bad takes about 6 to 10 ish years ago, so it became the in thing to hate on it, and it have never gone away. most really don't know why they hate ubuntu, they just mimic what others are saying that are mimic others and so on. It's a fun thing to look in to :D

    • @timandrews6828
      @timandrews6828 Рік тому

      @@KentsTechWorld All good points. Another thing to point out - most of Chris' criticism revolves around the pre-installed Firefox being slow to load on Snap. It's true people are in their browsers all the time, and you'll notice the slow loading of your browser more than you will with other applications. However, people are free to uninstall the Snap version and install the .deb version, or use Chrome or Chromium if they want. His argument is analogous to claiming that Windows is bad because Edge is slow (no idea if Edge is slow, just saying). But most people on Windows don't use Edge anyways.

  • @johanb.7869
    @johanb.7869 Рік тому +2

    So far Debian Cinnamon has been perfect. For me at least. Linux is a kernel. He has 414.000 subscribers, so he must be doing something right or not?

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      Most comes from his non Linux content. So yes he is making amazing Windows content, not so good Linux. So there you have it

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому

      That's an appeal to popularity fallacy. Something being popular doesn't necessarily mean it is good or better than something that is less popular.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      @@folksurvival think you missing the point here

  • @hatsunemiku5250
    @hatsunemiku5250 Рік тому

    Their only reason to not recommend ubuntu is due to snap but cant you just not use snap? Same people who bash on ubuntu are the same that dont care that they have to configure the crap out of other distros like arch or gentoo but when they see ubuntu hell no no good, its still a beginner friendly distro cuz the end user that doesnt have experience with linux doesnt care that it has snap

    • @hatsunemiku5250
      @hatsunemiku5250 Рік тому

      And the "ubuntu is slow" i dont get it , its supposed to be flashy with animations to attract users, many de are the same, ugly and tooo configurable and many users dont want to put time in configuring an ugly DE to be somewhat modern, thats what i like abt gnome its modern with gestures and simple to use, good for beginners

  • @JohnJohn-nh2rl
    @JohnJohn-nh2rl 11 місяців тому

    Chris is a good guy - most of his content is great and learn how to use Linux

  • @timothygibney159
    @timothygibney159 Рік тому +5

    Nope. Chris is right. Fedora is much better because it lacks snap

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      And strawberry ice is much better cos it lacks chocolate ice ;)

    • @hatsunemiku5250
      @hatsunemiku5250 Рік тому

      You can just uninstall snaps there are scripts for doing that and install flatpak just because it is not by defauld doesnt mean that its not supported, configure however you like, yet the same people dont have a problem with arch being very kinimal amd have to configure the shit out of that

  • @ovanosvarnus2701
    @ovanosvarnus2701 Рік тому +2

    So much blah blah both of you. 😂😂😂🤣🤣

  • @SleepyRulu
    @SleepyRulu Рік тому +1

    Ubuntu declines in what

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому +2

      Popularity. It is less popular now than it was which is a decline.

    • @lambdanil
      @lambdanil Рік тому +4

      @@folksurvival is there any source for this?

    • @folksurvival
      @folksurvival Рік тому

      @@lambdanil Haha

  • @BrunoRegno
    @BrunoRegno Рік тому +1

    I disagree. Slowness is not the only disadvantage of snap or any other "bit hoarding" formats. Please actually use and configure snaps for things more complex than a browser. Software freedom means that you have a right to be able to modify or extend your software. Snaps make it super hard for no other reason than to build walls around code. If I wanted to just use apps, I would not go for these multiple levels of absurdity. I would just use Android or Chrome OS.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      1. i do.
      2. Was that even a part of the video or did you just want to add a footnote?
      3. i did agree that snaps are slow, but that's not the same as saying ubuntu is slow, only that snaps are. but he used snaps as being slow to mean ubuntu as a hole it slow. it's like saying your car is slow cos your radio is slow in it :D

    • @BrunoRegno
      @BrunoRegno Рік тому +1

      @@KentsTechWorld again... You miss the forest for the tree. The snap concept is strongly pushed by Ubuntu, and it must completely go away. Adding a layer to supposedly enable "portability" by taking away software freedom is not acceptable. Posix must be respected if it is going to be FOSS. If not, it is just a proprierary wannabe and is exposing all free software to the boundary of a walled garden. This is the embrace phase of adopt, embrace, extiguish. Having parts of the OS as snaps is absolutely unnecessary for the OS and counterproductive to the user himself. This is useful only for other OS embracing linux components.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      @@BrunoRegno Ubuntu have never claimed to be a FOSS distro tho.
      So i think you are trying to force ubuntu to be something it's never have been, also FOSS and open source are not the same.
      I will agree that they should not push snaps this much at the state snaps are in.
      Also you are talking about a philosophy right now and a view point of how a distro should be, that have never been part of the Ubuntu philosophy, so it would be wrong to assume they should follow it.
      I get what you want out of Ubuntu, and what you want out of Linux, but that is again not ubuntu, there are other distros that are FOSS certified and follow the FOSS philosophy.
      So no i am not missing anything.
      And in the end they make the distro, they put in the time and money, so they can do what ever they want, We can than say we won't run it or we will. but never should we demand what other people do or use their time and money on.
      Snaps was made in response to the community and IT pros wanted a universal package format and a more secure one, not portability. Linux users have asked for this for over 20 years now, and snaps is just one way of doing it. So if you don't like what ubuntu is doing then don't use it, there are soooooo many people that do, but don't tell them they should not use it just for the reason they don't follow your philosophy and opinion on what a distro should be. IF you run arch or any other distro, then what ubuntu is doing with snaps have no impact on you what so ever.
      Your point is that the fact that snaps are pushed by ubuntu and you don't like it, and that it's not a FOSS distro, it should change. Not how the world work.

    • @BrunoRegno
      @BrunoRegno Рік тому +1

      @@KentsTechWorld SIC TRANSIT GLORIA. I left Microsoft for Ubuntu in 2008, when they did accept community contribution and they clearly stated they were FOSS. I did my fair share of contribution and changed hundreds of users to Ubuntu. Ubuntu Restricted package must be specially selected upon install... not FOSS? More like ignoring roots. I am indeed in the process of migrating all those I converted because I provide support to them, and Ubuntu is releasing unstable/not adequately tested versions as of late. That is the end of all walled gardens. You are absolutely right saying that I can choose where to go next... But where the nerds go, the world follows. I hope you get this into your perspective of Ubuntu not going away... Ubuntu as FOSS was a leader... As a walled garden it is a fourth behind Windows, Android/Chrome OS and MacOS/IOS. I hope they can survive in their newly selected position, specially with Microsoft poaching whatever guts they can for their benefit. I know freedom cannot be stopped, I just wish Cannonical still believed it.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      @@BrunoRegno you are a hero among mortals

  • @1945ramirez1
    @1945ramirez1 Рік тому +1

    I watch Chris Titus from time to time.
    What bugs me about him is that he will talk bad about how some Linux users that will talk about how a specific distro is better than yours. You know which ones (BTW, I use Arch types/neckbeards), But he does the samething. It is bad for Linux in general! It drives me nuts.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      Oh he do that a lot. DT do it even more tho lol

  • @isaaccampos8636
    @isaaccampos8636 Рік тому +4

    Don't know why, but there's something in the way Chris talks that just makes him sooo dislikeable

  • @LoveJoyPeaceAndHopeForAll
    @LoveJoyPeaceAndHopeForAll Рік тому

    I blew out laughing when he mentioned about the GUI. Go customize and optimize the way want it before mourning about it!

  • @xandernp7470
    @xandernp7470 Рік тому +7

    you missed the point completely with this video... the point is that for a new user ubuntu ootb does not have as good of a user experience as other distributions. we dont care that snap packages on other distributions are also slow? because we dont use them. the point is that canonical chooses to include them. and the point you made that because big tech also has telemetry, it doesnt matter that ubuntu has it is just stupid, one of the main advantages of linux is (usually) no telemetry, and you have a desktop that is yours and doesnt phone home sensitive data. windows privacy doesnt seem so bad now huh?... ubuntu feels like the windows of linux, and as titus said - linux users have options, ubuntu is just simply not as good as it once was. other distributions are providing a much better experience and therefore, yes ubuntu is declining. maybe stop fanboying over ubuntu and open your eyes.
    TL;DR: this video is just wrong.

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      you missed the point lol.
      He did talk about bad user experience, and i agreed.
      but saying ubuntu is slow when it's snaps that is slow are not the same.
      You do know when you updating linux you do a data exchange with a sever that is owned by a 3rd party, and to do so it need to take date and small amount of telemetry from your computer right?
      It's not so much about telemetry and date exchange being bad, but who you trust with it.
      also your linux desktop phones home every time it check for updates, just not to a distro maker, but again to a server that is owned by a 3rd party company or org. So again linux do that also, and again, it's all about who you trust with your data.
      And i have talked with plenty of user that use ubuntu as long as snaps have been around, and few really complain about it being slow, that is mostly nerds.
      my point is that you can't use any software that is on the internet without telemetry is being used, so yelling at ubuntu for it, mean you should yell at all linux distros, that's my point. and you can't say ubuntu is slow if it's just snaps that are slow. and there are platy of people using snaps on non ubuntu distros, just look at the stats
      You are really hearing things out of contexts

    • @xandernp7470
      @xandernp7470 Рік тому +4

      @@KentsTechWorld no no, you have definitely missed the point. sure, ubuntu itself is not slow but it ships with snaps by default. therefore ubuntu is slow. and the spyware was to do with canonical sending your search terms to third parties, for them to do whatever they do with your data. obvious privacy issue. obviously the article was about more than sending information about the software versions you are running so it can update them... if you can find articles about privacy issues in "all" linux distros then i will agree with you. and finally no, snaps are slow as shit so as long as canonical uses them - i will believe that they dont care about their user experience. people should just use fedora, titus was completely correct in saying that ubuntu is slow and pointless. i dont want to waste anymore of my time on this, mainly because it is pointless so have fun fanboying over ubuntu. bye

    • @basilcat3111
      @basilcat3111 Рік тому +1

      @@xandernp7470 Sorry, ubuntu doesn't send telemetry. Do you have 22.04 with amazon?

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому +1

      @@xandernp7470 just so you know it i am a openSUSE fanboy BTW ;) and i have a video coming where i show that every distro phones home and have telemetry and data exchange, so look out for it, if you want to rage some more ;)

    • @xandernp7470
      @xandernp7470 Рік тому +2

      @@KentsTechWorld haha, i'd be surprised if mine does but id be interested to find out. im not raging, just debating - i simply find ubuntu 100% pointless when much better alternatives exist. all good!

  • @nassimnajjar3208
    @nassimnajjar3208 Рік тому +2

    linux all about open source and and performance Ubuntu has conflicts with that for me arch is faster and better than Ubuntu for sure Ubuntu not the best even if it's the most used it's not the best

    • @KentsTechWorld
      @KentsTechWorld  Рік тому

      no where do it say that about linux.
      Linus prefer open source, but he allow and don't mind closed source in the kernel if needed, one of the reasons him and the FOSS people are not that friendly. And again Linux and it's software was never made for performance, Linux was made so Linux could have a Unix like system at home as he could not afford a unix system. Open source was and is made for the making it more easy for devs to faster apply fixes and updates to software, rather then waiting for a company to do so. What you are talking about is something the "users" have put on to linux, not the creators. So it may be like that for you, but remember that's not how Linux and most other open source software looks at it.

  • @technicalamanullah7019
    @technicalamanullah7019 Рік тому +3

    Every second you've used criticizing someone else, you've wasted time where you could've built something productive for the human race

  • @KangJangkrik
    @KangJangkrik Рік тому +2

    I unsubscribed Chris Titus Tech because he's far too biased, I hate that