TRUTH REVEALED HERTZ vs DIAMOND AUDIO SPEAKERS & AMPS FOR YOUR HARLEY DAVIDSON
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2020
- 702 Motoring located in Las Vegas has “extensive” experience installing HERTZ ST25 Horns / SV165.1 Mids / SV200L 8 Inch / Mille Pro MPX690.3 - NOW New Released Product from DIAMOND AUDIO Has taken the Industry by STORM with a VENGEANCE- Diamond’s M1SRT Bullet Horns / M075T Shallow Horns / MSPRO65 Mids MSPRO8 Mids / MS69CX 6x9’s OUTPERFORM Hertz in EVERY Level of the Sound Experience when riding your Harley - Diamonds Pro Audio Is LOUDER and CLEANER then Hertz in every category of speakers we have installed and Tested - Adding that DIAMOND AUDIO is WATERPROOF !! / 702 MOTORING LAS VEGAS Ships Nationwide using PayPal eCommerce / You may also visit us at www.702motoringlasvegas.com/
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Paul is the best, super knowledgeable and helpful. He took over 30 minutes to educate me about what was the best way to go to get the sound I was looking for. Highly recommend this shop. Most of the bikes there were from California. That should tell how good they are at their work.
Thank you,
We appreciate the Compliment and look foreword to doing business with you and your friends.
I just picked up the DA MSPRO65 & MSRT being backed by the Sound digital EVOX 800.4. Can't wait to get it installed and see how she sounds!!!
Nice
This is very interesting because i see hertz winning bike competitions down south every month. I ride with a few ppl that have diamond and it’s tuned and installed by the best shop in the state of GA, hmmmmmmm i never knew diamond outperformed hertz like that. I love the clarity and crystal clear vocals from the hertz i run on my RG, very very interesting!
This answered so many questions. Very informative. Good content.
Thank you, let us know if we can help 702-335-0000
I just installed that diamond audio tweeter with a set of prv 6 and 1/2 in the upper and lower can I say that diamond audio tweeter scout to be the loudest most crystal clear Twitter I've ever installed on a bike before. And I predict will last hell of a lot longer than the prv and the hearts without question that manual crossover makes a huge difference
That's Awesome, now lets get those PRV's out & Diamond Audio in !!!
I have bought from Paul several times. Gotten great products at great prices with great service.
Thank you for your continued business Ray
The one for dayton audio is an active crossover the hertz is a passive both work well
Hear just looking for reviews on Diamond audio as a whole but I never like putting down one brand to push another. I do like what I'm seeing with some of Diamond audios products though.
If your Hertz audio is sitting on the shelves at a discounted price because of this video, I will gladly take some off of your hands.
We have plenty of MPX 690.3 & MPX 165.3
I have the Dirty Bird 8” Fairing Pods not wanting to cut holes in it but use grills and kinda looking at M185’s
When the M185 becomes available to be sold we will post a video on it.
Love the diamond speakers and I know the Sony head units are the best for sound but they are definitely not waterproof and the best head unit for motorcycles. The new harley head units and the soundstream head units are waterproof!
Thanks for sharing
Awesome video!! Those diamond amps are badass!!!
Yes they are!
I just emailed you guys. I am looking to upgrade the system in my 2008 Harley Electra GLide. This is my 1st harley and in my opinion, the system in it sounds like donkey poop. I have watched a couple of your videos and I appreciate all the info you are giving out. I cant wait to see what you guys suggest for my bike.
They both have the same caps. The DA horns just have a resistor added to attenuate them. If your run the horns independently you literally don’t need either because you tuning them in your DSP.
Correct, if you are using a DSP and tuned correctly you do not need to use the crossovers on the Horn's, however on the flip side of that coin still using the crossovers does add extra protection for the horns and in some applications we still continue to use the crossovers especially for out of state bike installs we do for the extra protection.
@@702motoringlasvegas4 yeah. For extra safety on customer bikes where you can’t trust people to leave the tune the hell alone I agree.
I wonder how Hertz or the local Hertz field reps feels about this
video ?? With personal experience
& owner of BOTH brands I do like
BOTH brands. Crisp, clear sound
quality with the correct install & rated power.
We do not let ourselves as a business be controlled by the brands we sell - we have been doing this for 30+ years - new dealers tend to be the ones more controlled by the manufactures - we show and explain information about the brands we carry or may be out there that we may not carry to what we feel is truthful- we do not do business that involves deception
Gin ngo, that sounds like a threat! Lol seriously though.. even with Hertz SPL Show neo coaxials, another shop video that claims to love Hertz says he doesn't care for the tweeter. You're gonna call his distributor also??? Let these people tell the truth. Geez
@@bosshawg7427 that wasn't my point. Obviously all salesman & consumers have their entitled opinion. Hearing is subjective like
taste buds. What I am saying is I
wouldn't be putting out a video trashing a brand I represent.
Enjoy the 📢🔉🔊🎵🎶🎼
I'll put something in perspective for you as I have no stake in either brand, but to me, I find Hertz products to be overpriced for what they are... significantly overpriced! Although they are far from bottom of the barrel, they surely aren't worth the coin when compared to some others.
I've personally used a set of High Energy 6.5 and found them to be less than flattering. The voicing wasn't great like a JBL product and the sensitivity was highly inflated under testing. They rated sensitivity by the tweeter which had a poor crossover applied and not enough if at all resistors to bring the level down. If you look at the graph of say, the neo SPL show 6.5 coaxial you'll see what I mean. For that kind of money I would expect better considering other companies like Ground Zero, Diamond, and a few others offer a better package for the same or less cost. Even in their HDP amplifiers it is known to use clone boards that other less than stellar companies use like Soundstream & PPI. That's not something I expect from such a brand that many hail as an upper tier.
@@702motoringlasvegas4 i wish there was more shops around that could say that "We do not let ourselves as a business be controlled by the brands we sell" Good for you!
I have the diamond audio pro series paired w/ a arc audio moto 720 amp in my fairing these speakers are insane!!!
Awesome
Hertz gives you a polypropylene capacitor which is the best form of capacitor for high passing a tweeter whereas Diamond gives you an electrolytic capacitor with an inductor for a steeper slope but the electrolytic capacitor is the cheapest and harshest sounding when used in a crossover for a tweeter. Diamond took the time to mount the capacitor and inductor to a PCB board and solder some wire leads onto it but that makes no difference in quality or technology.
All that said, I am sure the Diamond sounds better, never been a huge fan of the Hertz.
Having a vent on the back of a midbass doesn't automatically mean it is going to cool better. So many more variables. The material of the voice coil could have certain thermal properties in which it can handle power better for a longer amount of time. Also, the sides of the speaker basket can be and most likely are venting for the voice coil.
Magnet size doesn't mean anything either. The weight of the overall suspension will dictate how much force you need behind it. A lighter suspension can use less force because it is more efficient. Also the quality/rating of the type of magnet used is another variable.
Appreciate your input
@8:48 what’s wrong with the surround on the Diamond 8”. Looks like it has an imperfection on the top.
I have Diamond Audio amps and Hertz speakers. Nice...
yeah me to, I have a Diamond Audio(DA) D5 300.2 amp that used to power some subs when I was a kid and now they'll be powering the Hertz MLK 165P.3 I just bought. I used to have Diamond component speakers and 6x9's years ago but I blew all of them. The subs lasted but I was only feeding them half of their RMS although I probably clipped them an hour everyday for years.
Very nice!
Whats the best speakers for a 2011 Road Glide Ultra CVO. Looking to replace fairing and tour pack speakers and add lower fairing speakers. Also, looking for recommendations on head unit upgrade and amps. Thanks in advance
Lots, please message me directly vegas.paul99@gmail.com Thank you
Do you offer a kit for a 2018 Ultra Limited with 4 MSPRO65 speakers, grills with MO75T horns, and DXM800.4d or HXM800.4d amp? And would it need 2 amps with each one bridged for 2 speakers to really get enough power to those speakers?
YES, Call us at 702-335-0000 and we will put together a package for you, MO75T Horns are running very low with inventory just so you are aware. Thank you
How dare you put down hertz! 🤣 Installed the new diamond mp654. They are very impressive and killer price!
Awesome, Thank you
Hertz new SPL Show speakers are waterproof. I’ve seen a water test done with them.
Sure now, several years later
So... Do you do the full install and flash? Basically start to finish?
Yes, We apologize for the delay in responding
do those mspro8 give the bass i need over the hertz 200.1SV im i have the Rockford system front and saddlebag kit its all water proof and im thinking it doesnt make sense to put the 8’’ hertz in my bags facing the rear wheel for bass if its not water proof because i ride my bike a lot id hate to ruin the hertz
How about 10's in your Bags? Woofers Included
www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/aggressor-pro-100-left-right-1998-up-harley-2-includes-2-diamond-ds102
The new diamond audio coax is the hot ticket. THATS IT.
Yes it is !!
Do you have any kits available? Site keeps saying outta stock
Have you had any experience with the diamond audio MP654 and MP694 speakers? If so, how do you like them?
Beyond expectations / working on a video with real time musical differences with the New MP Speaker Line
Will the DA 6.5’s with the same given rms be louder than the spl show 6.5’s as well?
They are both comparable, Diamond Audio MSPRO65 we feel is Louder and a stronger speaker and between the two Hertz will fail first due to the design and lack of cooling port on the rear of the magnet.
702. is there any benefits of flashing your radio before you do any sounds upgrade, thanks in advance.
Yes, it is imperative, see this link so you will know the specific reasoning
rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1215
What is the part # for the 2014-UP Road Glide front faring grills?
Hello - Here is the link, Thank you
www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/2015-2020-harley-road-glide-diamond-audio-pro-speaker-kit-includes-mo75t-horns
What radios do you recommend I replace in a 2014 /2015 Indian road master? I purchased and installed diamond speakers.
To be honest we do not know - we have never done one, what are others using?
I have a 2018 road glide special with metal grilles. I Basically have the same setup with a different brand speaker you have will the diamond shallow mount horns. Do the custom mounts you speak of come with the actual speaker? Can the mounts be purchased if I don't need to purchase new grilles?
We offer this only with the Grill, Horn & there is a special mount custom fabricated that is not visible on the inside of the grill.
How are you mounting the diamond audio mspro65 in the 14-20 road glide upper fairing speaker pods? Did you mold the speaker pods with a heat gun or cut a hole in the pods?
Keith Bell We do not recommend heating the enclosure as that will still distort the basket to the Diamond Audio Mid and will prevent it to achieve maximum performance that you want, we cut a hole in the correct position and use some sound deadening material to cover the hole and all is good
@@702motoringlasvegas4 Thanks for the response.
@@Mr.Bell229 Glad to Help
I need some front speakerswith horns and some speaker for the bags some 6X 9 and some mids for bags too I want all diamond audio . Wich one can I order from your store
Please contact us at 702-335-0000
I didn’t here you say anything about tuning with dsp? Do you use them?
Yes, But in no way are they a necessity as others may suggest.
Are the diamond audio and cerwin Vega close to the same product?
(I'm on your online store, and noticed they look identical)
It depends which exact model numbers you are looking at - no two items between the lines are identical - there are major differences
Why did you not compare to the Hertz NEO series that's designed for Harley? Were they not released yet?
We do not recall if they were released at that time or shortly afterwards, however that would not have affected the Video's Information, the video does not address ease of fitment on Harley's it addresses aggressiveness and ruggedness along with Sound Quality of the two speaker brands - addressing the NEO Series would just shown a series of speakers that Fail at a faster rate then even the SV165.1 due to their lack of strength to handle the constant usage of demanding users.
so If I buy this from you guys....how does it get flashed? I have a 2015 RoadGlide special and I live in Maine
I'm talking about the Diamond Audio..thanks
@@EzlivnMaine Here is a list of Dealers who flash
rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344
Where can I get 14 up SG grills with the horn
Here you go, www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/2014-2020-harley-street-glide-diamond-audio-pro-speaker-kit-includes-mo75t-horns
Is that sony SONY XAV-AX8000 waterproof? I ride in FL and we get downpour rain.
Water Resistant, if purchased from 702 Motoring you will receive a 3 Year Warranty that covers water damage 702-335-0000
Nothing electrical is ever 100% water proof. Don't let a sales pitch
from a salesman confuse common
sense or science.
How do the coax subs do when used with a baffle? I have 8” in my bad and am interested in these. Also do you carry the 2ohm version?
Steve Newcomb We do not have a 2ohm version, it’s hard to say using a baffle - sometimes they help and sometimes they do not , most of the time they do not our experience
I don't get why would the Hertz component speakers include capacitors for their tweeters. Component speakers usually come with a passive crossover that the mids and tweeters connect to. No need for filtering caps.
Speaker companies use capacitors to block unwanted frequencies for
better sound quality, less desegregation & damage. High frequency goes to tweeters.
Middle frequency goes to mids
( full range ) lower frequency to
subwoofers ( bass )
Simple -6db caps aren't enough in most cases. They either won't block enough bass, or they will cross higher than usual which can cause a hole in the response between mid and tweet. Basically, they're being cheap!
It varies for each manufacture, some just do it better than others.
So its safe to say.....you are a diamond audio dealer?
We do sell Diamond Audio & Hertz, Everything in the Video is 100% Truthful & Honest
Coming from someone who has hertz spl show 6.5s and st35s installed on his bike…. They are indeed waterproof. I’ve washed my bike and directly sprayed water at them and turned them on after I finished washing the bike and worked flawlessly. Been on my bike for almost two years not one speaker blown and I play it loud and nothing but it.
@@Smaze1762 same here! Hertz all the way!
Look just like Cerwin Vega B51, B52 and B54 amps
Brake light Warranty Cerwin Vega B series amps use a completely different circuit board then the Diamond Amps, taking both apart side by side the differences are very noticeable
Man i talk to a dude at Diamond audio..... He said the amp are one in the same a lil different on the board but the exact same technology....... Same amp
How would you parallel those diamonds into a system with 14ga wire to fit 2 14ga wires into each side to run to next speaker.
12 G Wire is slightly excessive but it will work, what other speaker are you wanting to also run with them?
@@702motoringlasvegas4 I’m running PVR and Hertz 8”
@@702motoringlasvegas4 whoops 14ga not 12ga running 12ga on the 8”
I’m going to be running in parallel with 14awg for horns. So I was told a butt plug 1 out 2 in out like an upside down Y
My DA M1SRT lasted 1 day, I guess 180 RMS was too much. Connected to RF DSP 1 on their own channel with high pass filter turned on. Going to try the Hertz vc25 next.
180 Watts RMS is WAY to much power, did you happen to review the specs on the horns? Hertz will not be any better, you can not abuse the horns and expect them to last
Who makes the loudest 6x9 and 6.5 on the market??
In our opinion Diamond Audio makes "One" of the Top of The Line Speakers currently available for Harley Davidson Motorcycles.
What about PRV speakers?
Only if you do not want the Best Sound from your bike,
Disclaimer: I plan on getting the DA654. I think for the $ it’s a really good speaker. I’m not a brand loyalist I just want decent quality at a decent price.
No that that’s out the way.
Not trying to get in a pissing match about the brands but where is the musical data. I’ve watched some videos that compare speakers using an RTA and all meter to so different ranges and over volume. A hole in the magnet doesn’t make it a superior speaker. I’ve heard the Hertz SV and that thing is LOUD. Seems like most of what you said is based on opinion. Do the Diamonds the justice they deserve and SHOW your viewers the difference. Hook them up and and leta see how they perform
You may be referring to the MP654 speakers, regarding our video yes allot of it is our opinion, further backed up with physical proof that the eye can see, just a hole in a magnet you are correct does not necessary make it better but when you think about it it actually does as the speakers heat from the voice coil can vent help keep the speaker cooler, take a Harley Davidson, some are air cooled and some are liquid cooled, we all know what happens to the air cooled motors in heat in stop and go traffic, take the liquid cooled, they will keep going, so in reality there is a difference, regarding hearing the MSPRO65 Diamond Audio Mids you hear them on every bike we do, as that is all a customer will purchase these days, regarding using meters, etc to test each model, we will take that into consideration but in all honesty we will more than likely never use the time to do that test as Diamond Audio has so far exceeded what ever Hertz has or is doing that there no longer is any competition involved between the two brands, again, in our opinion.
@@702motoringlasvegas4
Thanks for the response. And yes I was referring to the MP654. I was just trying to be fancy and shorten the name.
I don’t argue that DA is an amazing product. I also agree with you about some of the differences you pointed out. But in my opinion those are features that may help the longevity of the speaker and not necessarily its performance. But again I’m just throwing my 2 pennies. I still like DA and would run them in a heart beat.
Good work with the videos. Keep them coming. Even though this one was controversial, it still provided information about what Diamond is doing.
Can you please do a favor and do a quick video on the saddle bag quick disconnect. How they install and disconnect. does that center piece screw to the bad to seal the hole? I almost bought them from your site but there just wasn’t enough information.
Thank you in advance
@@donalddavis7160 Quick disconnects is a video we intend to do in the near future - Thank you for your support
I Disagree... I Have both products sold as authorized dealers from friends and there’s a difference depending on your ear quality and preference? Diamond is Loud! Probably the loudest... but Hertz is clear & picks up more sound out of tracks then anyone else... sonits like comparing a Bose system to a JBL... both sound good but depending on your sound preference it’s a matter of choice? If u ride fast and want to hear you stereo buy diamond because it’s loud... but if you like to hear sound that you like to be surprised by like bose ... then buy that..? I kinda wish there was a medium to this but as of now it’s between these 2...
We appreciate your reply, however Diamond Audio sounds better then Hertz speakers across the board in our opinion, Thank you
With a 2012 Roadglide, if i got the mspro65 where would i install the horns?
In the grills like shown below www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/98-13-road-glide-pro-speaker-fairing-kit-hertz-sv-165-1-st25-american-hard-bag
OR - Our Newest www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/98-13-road-glide-pro-speaker-fairing-kit-diamond-audio-mo75t-horns-crossovers
@@702motoringlasvegas4 ok nice!
Ofcourse there is a difference when speakers are designed especially for motor bikes, but as a brand and i think when you measure the speakers hertz will almost always beat other brands..And that hertz 8 inch woofer plays down to 45hz...sound awesome in my passat cc,. And i dont know if diamond is "made in the usa" because hertz is from italy as far as i know..so import costs..
Well, The Hertz and the Diamond Audio we directly compared against is product designed for usage in Harley Motorcycles by both manufacturer, in this application Diamond Audio Out performs in every way 99% of the Hertz product shown in this video, lastly, Hertz is ALSO manafactured in CHINA - the company may be from Italy but I assure you the boxes clearly state from China
@@702motoringlasvegas4 Yeah i is common these days, amps are made in Korea and almost all other stuff is made in China. I also could not find a clear statement of diamond audio that it is "made in america"...But a lot of manufacturers produce everythin except their "high end" products from china and they almost have to if they want to compete with other brands and there is nothing wrong wwith that.
@@702motoringlasvegas4 ya the DA are Chinese too
Are diamond water proof? Want to put some on fairing
All Diamond Audio Speakers we sell are covered by a full one year warranty that covers any type of water contamination
Hertz magnets are not as big around as the Diamond because they are thicker. Diamond has better ventilation than the Hertz 200L yes, but the Hertz 200L is a WOOFER NOT a midrange speaker like the Diamond. Hertz does not claim these are a "Motorcycle or Marine" speaker. Hertz SPL Series are a Pro Loudspeaker. Diamond MSPRO8 have a frequency range of 100hz -9khz. Hertz is 44hz-4500khz. You are comparing Apples to Oranges. It Appears that Diamond Audio is paying better commission here. Also, back on the waterproof claim...THEY'RE NOT! They are water "RESISTANT" like the Hertz. They basically spray a coating on them similar to "Kiwi Camp Dry". You can do the same with ANY speaker.
We appreciate your reply, seems we have a couple of Hertz Guys responding the last few days, ol electromedia must sure be feeling the Hurt down there right about now. Ha Ha - But OK, let's get serious here and address your responses OK?
(1) Hertz does not claim these are a "Motorcycle or Marine" speaker. That's Correct, sortove, regardless Diamond Audio DOES STAKE THAT CLAIM and in essence blows Herts away in clarity & loudness when used in Harley applications.
(2) Also, back on the waterproof claim...THEY'RE NOT! They are water "RESISTANT" like the Hertz. YOU SURE ABOUT THAT????? MS69CX COAX SUBS WE BELIEVE IPX65 MARINE GRADE COMPLIANT SPECIFICATIONS To be the Real Deal, are you saying Diamond Audio is Lying?
(3) They basically spray a coating on them similar to "Kiwi Camp Dry". You can do the same with ANY speaker / REALLY??? SO THEN WHEN DIAMOND AUDIO STATES MSPRO65 "MIDRANGE MANUFACTURED TO IP65 MARINE GRADE COMPLIANT SPECIFICATIONS / Are you saying Diamond Audio is Lying?
We can go on and on, but you may want to stop while you are ahead, Hertz has lost this Battle & electromedia is feeling it.
YOU are comparing 2 different speaker types. Diamond audio 8 is a “MIDRANGE” speaker! Hertz 200L is a “WOOFER” anyone with any knowledge at all can look at both specifications and tell the difference PERIOD. I’m not a fan of either one. I’m just putting the REAL TRUTH out there for readers. The Diamond Audio 8” in fact does play louder because their sensitivity level is 100db. Hertz is 94.5db. Hertz plays lower and is called a “WOOFER” it’s NOT a “MIDRANGE” like the diamond. Anyone is way more than welcome to examine the specs on each of these speakers. No wonder the company you represent at 702 motoring in Las Vegas only has a 3.1 star rating.. WOW...
@@mayhemmodz9052 Ha Ha - OK< Let's try this a different way for the "Readers" as you say, Yes we are very aware that every subscriber to our 702 Motoring Las Vegas UA-cam Channel will read these messages from you along with every other curious potential customer of Hertz & Diamond Audio and that's OK, if we had something to hide we could simply delete your messages -BUT_ When you have the "Winning" Hand as we do there is no reason to try and hide, so your comments will stay up and be visible to the "readers" so are you ready? OK Lets Gooo
Your 1st message to this UA-cam video was in reference to two specific points of interest
(1) That the Hertz 200L which is actually a SV200L is a Woofer and not a Midrange like the Diamond Audio MSPRO8
(2) That the Diamond Audio Product shown was not Marine Grade or better known as IP65 Compliant and simply sprayed with some type of spray to make the product water resistant.
Funny though that you never point out or discuss the other many, many Diamond Audio & Hertz comparisons.
So since we have already stated we run a Honest and Ethical Retail & eCommerce business we will be honest in our responses to you
Hertz SV200L is a Woofer and Yes Diamond Audio MSPRO8 is a MidRange we do not believe we stated anything different regarding this in the Video we posted comparing the two, we do find it interesting that you choose to single out this one Hertz Model, because this would be the ONLY item that is the closest to comparison with the Diamond Audio and this specific detailed information would pretty much be known to people who are very familiar with the products specifications, ie: connected to electromedia - for the readers who did not know who electromedia is this is the Parent company that owns Hertz & Addison
Furthermore,
You attacked Diamond Audio product stating it was no better than Hertz regarding withstanding the elements related to Harley usage because all that was used on Diamond Audio product was some type of spray, as shown in our last response to you that was FAKE NEWS - Your attempt to make Diamond Audio hold less value only backfired in your face as shown and Proven Diamond Audio is in fact IP65 MARINE GRADE COMPLIANT SPECIFICATIONS
Any customer that has purchased Diamond Audio from 702 Motoring Las Vegas and has experienced any type of issue weather a true defect OR customer abuse has had their product exchanged - a very painless process - what does HERTZ do? let's just say you do not want me to get started with that information, heck that would make for a whole new video the hassle a customer will go threw to get a Hertz item warrantied or even a Dealer for that matter.
Lastly,
In closing, just like in Poker, never let them read you and you my friend revealed two tell tell signs in your last reply,
(a) YOU STATED I’m not a fan of either one. REALLY - Then why do you know the specifics as you do and feel so compelled two twice now spend your time with these replies to the video and then why would you even say that if it was not exactly the opposite? trying to throw us off the scent? no way, we can smell a electromedia employee for a distance, promise.
BUT WAIT, Theeeeeere is one more thing you did say -
(b) YOU PERSONALLY ATTACK THE BUSINESS OF 702 MOTORING LAS VEGAS "No wonder the company you represent at 702 motoring in Las Vegas only has a 3.1 star rating.. WOW."
That's coming from a person that is emotional over this specific issue and that my friend makes you a electromedia employee or someone very closely connected to the company.
The ONLY reasoning for you and the other friendly fella is because you are attempting to stop the bleeding - Well guess what? I am hear to tell ya you have a Gusher Going On, you are in NO WAY GOING to stop what Diamond Audio has going - Your product is outdated, jeez, even DS18 is just as good as HERTZ at 1/2 the price
The only improvement Hertz has made is put Neodymium magnets on OLD SPEAKERS, WOW what Product development you have going on there, putting yourself way out there, Ha Ha
Friendly Competition, it's a great thing when you have the Winning Hand, guess what electromedia, you have not seen anything yet, WAIT - More is coming, we are actively testing it now, let Rob know 702 Motoring Las Vegas says Hi - "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?"
What Diamond would replace hertz ST35 as a direct fit replacement
What location exactly is the ST35 installed?
@@702motoringlasvegas4 A Hertz ST35
Hahaha... I know who NOT to buy a system from. Next you'll tell me to toss my Helix amps in the trash and get me some Sundowns. SMH
Your comment lacks intelligence, we do not carry either of those two brands you mentioned and they have zero relevance to this video we posted. so your point would be?
Love my old Diamond 400.1 amp pushing a 12" sub in my car. If the motorcycle audio is even close to it then its money well spent.
It is beyond belief
What about the specs and cutting hole for the M185
M185 is in production and do not have a date available to be sold as of this morning
@@702motoringlasvegas4 has it come out yet?
@@Heavy69Metal Not yet
Hey , so whats the website ?
www.702motoringlasvegas.com/
The highest end Hertz will eviscerate Diamond in sound quality.
This video is biased and incomplete in several major areas.
That said, for motorcycle applications both brands will be fine.
We disagree with your statement in it's entirety and in all fairness feel free to say which exact Model Number Hertz 6x9 and Horn you feel will , "eviscerate" Diamond Audio's Sound Quality !!
We are still waiting on your so called HERTZ Model numbers that will outperform Diamond Audio
I run the MPX PRO 690.3 6x9 and they out perform the Diamonds!!
@@Misty3133 The $309.99 Retail DIAMOND AUDIO MS69CX COAX SUB - out perform those 3 year old Mille Pro's you have not to even bring in the MP694 Coax Horn 6x9 - that will double the output of the Hertz speakers you are running now, clearly you have not tried a set.
@@Misty3133 How would you know? Put those Hertz up against the Diamond Audio MP694 and you will never use a hertz 6x9 again
I'm liking that diamond audio coaxial 6x9!!! Are they built as cheap as the 6x9 3-way Hertz? I've gone through two pairs of these Hertz 6x9's on my '01 Roadking! Installed these in my hard bags, with the Rockford fosgate kit...... And the problem with these speakers is, the coaxial part becomes detached from the woofer assembly! so basically this piece of shit is just vibrating in place! These boys in research and development, should be fired! Are you guys running into the same problem with the diamond audio? Thanks
We have had zero issues with the tweeter bridge breaking or coming loose with the Diamonds, with the Hertz yes, the Diamond Audio Speakers are made for a more rugged environment then the Hertz not to mention the better sound quality with the Diamonds, the Coax Subs are on a 60 - 90 national back order, currently we have only one pair left in stock, the New Diamond Audio 6x9's the MP694's are in stock and quite a bit louder, see the link for that Speaker www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/diamond-audio-mp694-motorsport-series-6-x9-pro-full-range-co-ax-horn-speakers
Your comparing the top of the line diamond audio to the not top of the line hertz how about you switch over to the SX line that is fully waterproof and also has a neodymium magnet that produces more power with less weight
You are 100% WRONG, What we did was compare the Diamond Audio to the Hertz SPL Show and Mille Pro Line that was TOP OF THE LINE 1.5 Years ago when the Video was filmed, the specific speakers you mention where not even in existent at that time / Realistically it would have made zero difference, We will still make the same comparison, Taking a larger magnet off of a speaker and putting a way to small neodymium magnet in no way in our opinion makes a night and day difference, Guys using Harley Sound Systems traveling all over the States are running their systems hard, those baby magnets melt just as easily as the Rockford Harley Speaker Magnets, the less weight equals less than a gallon of gas and holds no value other than a selling feature people may use to sell the speaker, the bottom line is this, Diamond Audio product walks all over the Hertz product in sound quality, Level of Loudness and longevity, we may sell one set of HERTZ Speakers to every 200 Diamond Audio Setups and we sell allot of Diamond Audio on a daily Bases, you certainly have your right to your opinion but at this time we are Running Strong with Diamond Audio.
Will those sound good in cars
Yes, we use them in cars, boats, etc
How are those mo75T I was thinking about getting a pair for my car how’s the Sound quality on them
Do a comparison video between diamond and Cicada equipment 👍
If your in the audio business you know “wattage” numbers are selling tools, speak about voice coil size, sensitivity and layering, also where are the neodymium speakers!? Diamond is solid and they stand behind their product, but why trash Hertz and play like Diamond has the bagger market cornered.
We did not trash the hertz brand, we simply showed the difference from Diamond Audio vs Hertz that was available in the market place when this video was filmed on Feb 23rd, 2020 that clearly shows that the hertz brand did not even slightly stand up to the Diamond Audio brand at that time which is still True today, in the future there will be a Cicada comparison when their full product line is available in the US which at this time it is not and a comparison at this time with Cicada would not be a fair or ethical comparison.
Sounds like Hertz is what I want... Sound coming directly at me on my bike. I don't care if bystanders can hear me.
HERTZ Products are no where close to the performance and output of a Diamond Audio Speaker, but at the end of the day it is your bike - you should do as you choose.
Yeah Cerwin Vega knows how to do their stuff don't they
Yes, Cerwin Vega along with Diamond Audio
@@702motoringlasvegas4 I spoke with one of the guys working on coming up with the sm65 several years back those guys are good at when they do he said he was with them for like 25 years or so real nice dude for sure I use a lot of those 2 brands bike is running hxm1100.6 and house has old school vs12's and van has zmax 15's
I really don’t have to argue with a UA-cam “Genius”, It’s already explained in the specifications. I don’t own either one of the brands. Are you that remedial? Oh, it’s “Audison “ not “Addison” Good Luck with your sales and google reviews. I shouldn’t have said anything because I honestly do not care, but HAD to respond to this because you were in fact comparing a 100db midrange speaker to a low mid “Woofer” in “loudness. Loudness means “DB” per watt, measured with a microphone 3ft away from the speaker, often called “Sensitivity”. I do not care about Hertz OR Diamond audio. I’m just stating FACTS. I get the sales pitches, but really?? 😄 Now if this would have been a Diamond audio midrange against a Hertz midrange, id have never chimed one, because then you’d have a case. I don’t understand why Diamond though has a 400W - 800w peak... throw 400w at a Hertz OR a Diamond audio 8” midrange and we will have a cloud of smoke. TRUTH. It’s not about brands, it’s about SCIENCE. Don’t mislead people. Have fun with your future posts responding to this. I don’t have the interest in talking to a wall.
You Lost this so called super scientific explanations you attempted to provide - The Video stands and shows viewers the truth about all the product comparisons across the board, possibly one day you can get over just one single comparison and see the big picture
If there's a air vent hole it is not waterproof
Ive done the Hertz route, unless you get their high-end model youll be disappointed.
Its a paper cone on the mid tho
Yes, UV Treated
Come on man! you comparing Diamond audio's high end vs hertz audio's low end not a fair comparison at all.
Negative, We are comparing exactly to what was in existence at the time the video was produced, there is NO DECEPTION within any of our videos
Diamond audio is a Harley man speaker
Yes, Yes it is !!
Those Diamond micro amps are gutless sadly. Worst DA product I have ever touched. I was shocked. Adjusting gains with SMD DD-1+ they kick out distortion way before other amps, and the gain pots suck.
We have installed over 1000 DA Amps along with Plenty of the Competitors and nothing as you have described has ever occurred with us, matter of fact we have never even had a DOA Amp out of the box and out of the last two years have had two legitimate warranty returns on the amps.
Are you even in business?
100% in May everyone caught COVID and we where forced to shut down for three weeks
The hurts that you're comparing the Diamond Audio to you are for audio totally different applications
You are free to feel as you choose
I mean get real. This entire comparison is stupid. They are both Chinese. They both use ferrite magnets. Once ferrite magnet can be stronger than another, larger ferrite magnet.
Just visit Diamond Audio (DA) website, which should speak enough: There are typos on the website. If they can't spell, then ???
----DA tweet has the same setup but with a coil. I wouldn't call that "A lot" of "Technology."
----"Shooting straight...." We call it BEAMING (for emphasis). The phase plug actually REDUCES on-axis beaming. Those cool looking fan blades on the DA don't really do anything.
---"The loudest setup on planet Earth" like what is this ... some kind of cartoon?
---The vents are debatable. But, for one thing, they ARE NOT typically designed for cooling. It has more to do with spring effect of the air behind the dust cap; compression and rarefaction of the air, which can cause DISTORTION--mechanical. Many times, one can hear the distortion as squeaky wizzer (woofer) or a cupped hand (tweeter).
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Your reply it actually kinda funny, especially as you use our Statement "The loudest setup on planet Earth" and then refer to a cartoon.
Tell you what we do know, Hundreds if not more of our Harley Customers Worldwide Know what it means when we say "LOUDEST SETUP ON PLANET EARTH" We know this from the messages we receive after their system we shipped to them and have been installed, We Pre-Tune amplifiers before shipment to their particular purchased system - These guys are LOUDER & CLEANER then all their friends and who are not their friends, time after time we have compared Diamond Audio against Hertz, Beyma, PRV, DS18, Focal & on and on it goes,
OK, We will bite, go ahead and tell us what is Cleaner and Louder in a 14 & UP Street Glide or 15 & Up Road Glide using the factory location and a 4 Channel Amp?
While you are 'Beaming" up that information as you put it tell us some more about the following comments of yours ?
(1) Those cool looking fan blades on the DA don't really do anything. REALLY? HA HA - THERE SURE ARE ALOT OF HARLEY GUYS OUT THERE THAT WILL LAUGH IN YOUR FACE ABOUT THAT
(2)The vents are debatable. But, for one thing, they ARE NOT typically designed for cooling / SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THEY ARE BETTER OR NOT / OK THEN
(3) But, for one thing, they ARE NOT typically / YOU ARE RIGHT DIAMOND AUDIO CERTAINLY IS NOT TYPICAL - LIKE ALL THE OTHERS
We invite you to come back for some more Diamond Audio abuse !!!
@@702motoringlasvegas4 I'm just commenting about certain parts of your vid. Your bias is clearly evident. Rather than make a vid of talking, just play them so we can hear what you believe is the better sound.
--not typically means that if a speaker was designed with a vent specifically for cooling, then it would not by a typical, vented speaker. This could be good or bad.
--I wasn't arguing that either brand is better. I was arguing against your logic/reasoning that you are the best and make the best and will be the best and we should all stoop to you.
I couldn't care less about who laughs at me. I have so much more in life than some idiots riding Harley bikes who think I'm funny, when to me, they are being laughed at for what they are doing too. When i see these old guys riding bikes blasting Polk or whatever speakers, and usually some old rock that sounds like crap, I just laugh. So I suppose we are both being laughs at.
@@RobHTech You know what, whatever speaker a person has on his Harley or any other vehicle for that matter, if that person is in his own space enjoying life with his music aways from Life's drama of Covid-19 and everything else going on in this world our Hat's off to him, he has successfully escaped even if it is just a short while.
Regarding the video we posted, everything done was visual and accurate, as you can not change the visual, regarding sound testing that is coming, the problem with that is UA-cam restricts the music we can use, if it is any music you have heard of it is copyrighted and we are striked immediately less then one minute after posting, so we are provided with a list of 5000K+ songs to choose from all of which are not the music type we want to use, however we are close, actually this Sunday Evening we will be testing three different lines of Diamond Audio product on a 2020 Harley Road Glide, factory radio & two Diamond Amps - we can not actually accurately test with Hertz as Hertz does not offer a horn solution that is practical or even comparable to a shallow horn like the Diamond Audio MO75T Shallow Horn
@@702motoringlasvegas4 Ya. Everyone has his or her different sound that one likes reproduced a certain way. And, I have found over the past 28 years that people who mostly listen to Rock, for example, tend to like Kickers, and boat people like Polk, just in general; not everyone, just what I commonly see. These bass heads like Sundown and these other new brands that produce speakers with way oversized motors, lots of mechanical distortion, but boom boom away. SPL SPL SPL. Not my thing.
I in fact typically make my own system using raw drivers. And I would suggest that for any pro or someone who just can't seem to find the right sounding prefab component set, etc.
--What you do is specialized to your customer base, obviously.
---This entire coronavirus situation is taking a toll on everyone, at this point.
Plus hertz are overpriced
Ha Ha - Very True
Hertz hater...lol whatever dude
Ironic because 702 motorsports sells Hertz ( conflict of interest ? )
Why piss & shit on brands & products you sell ? Hertz might not
be water proof but what really is ?
We carry both brands - we are not hating one one over the other just explaining the differences to better help consumers- if you call that hating than well that is your opinion
Lmao. Its obvious you don't know audio! What a joke
Bob Keller you sir are a Joke on this Christmas Day
@@bobkeller8383 If you offer no valid dialogue to your feelings than you can piss off, so either add a legitimate reply to what you believe in our we will simply block further comments and you Personally from responding in the future. So make your choice