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ROK needs to take it easy. You don't reinvent a classic every day. Just because the BBQ tastes good, you dont start putting sugar in it. The more complicated they make it, the less attractive the game becomes. Somebody in the developing unit is just changing things to justify their jobs. Just stop, please stop. The game is a classic, dont spoil it by continuous unnecessary changes
HEEEEELLLLPPPPP!!, My head is hurting so bad RN. This starts to be way too complex. Inscription for Flags? Why ,what ,where... I don't need those... I hope. I am not garrison or rally lead. But still this all is little much, also you might get unlucky and get Inscription you really don't wanna use. Or have commander that benefits that but actually hurts it. Idk. Hated this all along, now even more.
I am already 800 days in the game. As a very low spender I’m already handicapped against spenders that have better commanders, better equipment, more buffs from vip, better tech in kvk crystal tech, more speedups, and more resources. Now I have a 7th thing to fall behind in? Dear lord…..
All of us are, but we still fight and have fun. Stop complaining. I hate it as well, but it makes the game more fun, even if it’s a disadvantage in the long run.
Realistically everything you said isn’t that much of a handicap. I’m willing to bet your gear and commanders aren’t much worse than that of whales, ps they should always have an advantage over you if they are whaling. In the open field if you have a good KD most of the stuff you listed isn’t that important. I can still trade positive 2-1 against marches that have like 55% more attack than I do by simply fighting smart with my team. This will be no different
Iam f2p 80m ...and in a strong Kingdom...i cant Trader 2-1 positive haha how against 7 ×400k marches witch max Tech...and now this Trash makes the Gap even more bigger...😂
F2P players aren't the only ones suffering at this point, now even the casual spenders will never get to catch up. getting maxed commanders and decent gear is no longer enough. Add to the fact that every kvk you have to spend some amount of money to even compete with the whales, it doesn't seem like its worth to play at this point.
@ToS and we all know they gonna add bundles and events spending for it. Make urself a favor and quit and do it while ppl buy accounts and not when there is mass quitters
Welp! I am tapping out after 3 years of playing catch-up with Lilith's money grabbing scheme,way too much stuff for a game which is supposed to be fun,the pay wall is ridiculous at this point.
Is this going to be all the time or just in certain kvks? I feel like they will ruin the game if this is the norm. We like the game how it is and have invested in commanders and equipment, now they are going to change everything. Hopefully we can still play normal kvks
Can we inscribe our armaments after they are allotted to a commander or once they are on that’s it , I have been saving mine hoping for some good incriptions and better armament too but kvk has started and I really need to put them on , my inscribed ones are not really useful but I do have a few decent armaments not inscribed
At first this game was like gather resources, build and fight. Then you have to get those new commander. Then you have all those expensive equipment and city skin. Than you have to get all those different kvk equipment. Than you have to spend a lot in kvk for crystal. Than you have max your vip. Than there are these formation or ornaments etc. This is not simple now it's like total complexity 🤣🤣🤣 I wonder new player would enjoy playing this game after learning all those.
@@mikepreston4713 absolutely. Also they don't even fix issues like when you are playing with pc there are like so many bugs. When a pass fight happens the tremendous lag.
Yea im a year in and on my way out the door. It's too much to keep up with and when you have a life to live.... i already stopped spending. Just waiting for armaments to hit my kingdom then its arrivederci
I feel like A/T is for 1st formation, Nevsky/Joan (Saladin/William),(Guan/Scipi) are for 3rd formation, Trajan/Mulan is for 3rd formation and Alex/scipi and (Alex/Charles) are for 4th formation
@@flavio7601 Of course they will be able to, armaments/formations is something you add to your commanders like you do with equipment. Similarly rallies will be running formations as well.
Do you have any information, if you can change formation after you leave city? Like to benefit march speed formation and when you are about to fight to change to vedge formation or so? or it is like equipments and you can change it while your commander is in the city.
Chis, based on which I already get from quests one of them was legendary armament with already two inscriptions on it and 3,5% inf defence boost. It seems that on legendary you can have wo inscriptions and on epic only one.
The question is this going to exalerate the fight or make even slower I mean you can modify some state that are missing from specific commanders I can get very tanky like a wall 🧱 😉 I'm hyped because its depend on luck like special talent its but I hope not they add more events not removing them
Do one formation does counter eachother? Anyway it's real sounds complicated but sadly it seems one need to decide which formation he/she wants from the get go 😳
Chisgule i would like to say that in 2901 there is a whale in kvk1 his name is Monkey Clown he is a 108mil peak power player with almost 2billion kill points and almost 9million dead troops(t5's to be exact) he is a crazy whale and i would like it if you had him interviewed:)
People crying a lot. Just accept your own play style and pace and don’t compare yourself with others. Same as in real life. Just play and do your thing.
Ranged buffs are definitely powerful, but I still don’t know if I want to use three ranged marches (one inf, one archer, one cav) to justify focusing on those armaments.
These new systems sound like a nightmare to me as a mostly F2P (my only spending is the crystal prod boost each kvk). I'm only just getting into a position where I have decent commanders and working towards half-decent equipment. Now all of these overly complex extras, I'm really not interested. I feel like this is gonna be really polarizing and make just as many quit as be something others will enjoy. Ehh...
Chis, here is an idea that you might really like. So dealing direct damage will give you a buff. If for example we are using joan/nevsky the cycle would be Turn 1 direct damage boosted by the inscriptions 2 3 damage "nevsky" 4 5 damage "joan second hit. So 5 sec cd will make it impossible for joan/nevsky. But what if we are using a commander like sargon secondery or harald? Here is what i have in mind. Turn 1: primary damage "boosted" 2: 3 sargon activates his skill 4 damage 5 damage 6 damage "boosted again" And in harald case, if ypu proc first second of the fight then if the primary is not pakal then the primary gets to get his skill damage boosted too. And if it is pakal then harald will just get the boost again. It is like harald would be so happy with this. I guess what i am saying is, chance based on skill damage hitting with a cdis a direct buff for any commander with many primary skill damage hits Because they can keep grttinv the boost eith no cd down time.
Echelon actually sucks.. you can only gain a max 5% additional percentage, but the kicker is the 1.2 times boost.. here's the results of my tests.. 1.) the buff bonus only affect other marches, not the one who has the echelon formation.. 2.) The factor is not that good. if the buff only gives 15%, you can only add 3% on that.. only those that goes above 25% bonus can maximize the +5%.. 3.) 5% additional percentage is negligible and you won't and shouldn't create a march just to buff other marches.. it's always better to use wedge, arch or hollow to maximize your trades..
To explain with examples, epic Joan gives 30% boost.. with an echelon formation that 30% will go up to 35%.. but epic Joan will not get the 35%, she will still get 30%.. the only march that will get that 35% will be given to marches around her.. and since the boost is only 1.2 times, lower percentages like Mulan who only gives 15% (w/o expertised), she can only go up to 18% not 20%..
Inscriptions are also really really difficult to find.. the ones in the shop is also very difficult to buy because legendary armaments only trade for 1 gold coin and you need at least 120?(can't remember the exact amount) gold coins to buy an inscription chest..
must prepare to delete the rok. 😂 I played 1500days. and I would say it is time to think with ending point. only take cash and even beginners level bugs they don't fix it. more bundle but no more creation. 1500days spender just a joke to LLs.
Can confirm all damage is an armament attribute. There has to be like a 50% of barb reduction and gold mining speed because almost all of mine get that. I did manage to get 2 blue armaments with 3 archer stats but they were the ranged formation which isnt great because no skills. My best one is a purple cav one with skill damage inscription, all damage, cav defense, and something random. System is good but going to take years to get optimized legendary armaments in 4 slots with 2 inscriptions each for even one march let alone 5 or 7 in some kvks
Sounds like it would be a great time for quit I’m a low/F2P spender. Guess this is the last KVK for me. Too complicated and just seems like another way for big spenders to wipe off all F2P.
I feel all this is like a bone lillith tossing at rok players to keep use busy while they work or other games / project . And have a last rush of income money from rok
That way the game will turn to bullschit.... That's way alote of players will quite the game..... You need to play over then 15 years to heve a good march.... I quite it just for that bullschit.... Like material wer you still wen you pay bonduls on shop you don't get enaf to finish one gear.....
This is a little ridiculous to be honest pushing out commanders like crazy and people can't keep up and now this crap is literally making the gap bigger. How about make the museum buffs on commanders better be they are literally a waste of reward
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ROK needs to take it easy. You don't reinvent a classic every day. Just because the BBQ tastes good, you dont start putting sugar in it. The more complicated they make it, the less attractive the game becomes. Somebody in the developing unit is just changing things to justify their jobs. Just stop, please stop. The game is a classic, dont spoil it by continuous unnecessary changes
😂😅 It's only bad if it's like Crystal Technology. Things to be F2P death 💀☠️👻👻
HEEEEELLLLPPPPP!!,
My head is hurting so bad RN.
This starts to be way too complex. Inscription for Flags? Why ,what ,where... I don't need those... I hope. I am not garrison or rally lead. But still this all is little much, also you might get unlucky and get Inscription you really don't wanna use. Or have commander that benefits that but actually hurts it. Idk. Hated this all along, now even more.
@@sharbandarrimau8448 I will
Make short videos and laconic. 30+ min videos reason why u don't have a lot subscribers
I am already 800 days in the game. As a very low spender I’m already handicapped against spenders that have better commanders, better equipment, more buffs from vip, better tech in kvk crystal tech, more speedups, and more resources. Now I have a 7th thing to fall behind in? Dear lord…..
The developers cant help themselves. They are this greedy
All of us are, but we still fight and have fun. Stop complaining. I hate it as well, but it makes the game more fun, even if it’s a disadvantage in the long run.
Realistically everything you said isn’t that much of a handicap. I’m willing to bet your gear and commanders aren’t much worse than that of whales, ps they should always have an advantage over you if they are whaling. In the open field if you have a good KD most of the stuff you listed isn’t that important. I can still trade positive 2-1 against marches that have like 55% more attack than I do by simply fighting smart with my team. This will be no different
Iam f2p 80m ...and in a strong Kingdom...i cant Trader 2-1 positive haha how against 7 ×400k marches witch max Tech...and now this Trash makes the Gap even more bigger...😂
the idea is not to try to compete with whales but other low spender/f2p's
The fact that chisgule goes to these lengths for information is astounding, thank you for all of this, you deserve every like you get times 2
F2P players aren't the only ones suffering at this point, now even the casual spenders will never get to catch up. getting maxed commanders and decent gear is no longer enough. Add to the fact that every kvk you have to spend some amount of money to even compete with the whales, it doesn't seem like its worth to play at this point.
I just laugh at the the big spenders in this game. The game is a liability not a asset
Hey Chis, great video. Thanks very informative. I can't wait for you to unlock formations and tell us which commanders are best for each formation.
Great, in two years I might be able to get one
Not really sure what to think of this, sounds like some insane rng needed to actually get what you really want
@ToS and we all know they gonna add bundles and events spending for it. Make urself a favor and quit and do it while ppl buy accounts and not when there is mass quitters
What do you think of “ bluster ” it seems so odd
Welp! I am tapping out after 3 years of playing catch-up with Lilith's money grabbing scheme,way too much stuff for a game which is supposed to be fun,the pay wall is ridiculous at this point.
I think there will be a huge profit reduction after they drop this though 🤣 I see many players quit
Is this going to be all the time or just in certain kvks? I feel like they will ruin the game if this is the norm. We like the game how it is and have invested in commanders and equipment, now they are going to change everything. Hopefully we can still play normal kvks
No it's for every kvk from now on...yes they gonna ruin the game, that is obvious now
Hi do you need to also put armaments to secondary comander? Meaning of i am nesky + joan do i need to put joan armament? Q
make a updated vid
whats the best formation for the field fighters wedge ?
straight to the point sounds like it would be perfect for atilla takeda
Can we inscribe our armaments after they are allotted to a commander or once they are on that’s it , I have been saving mine hoping for some good incriptions and better armament too but kvk has started and I really need to put them on , my inscribed ones are not really useful but I do have a few decent armaments not inscribed
Can’t wait to see what it’s like love your videos 👍
how in the hell is this good for the game. im out.
You think the hollow square formation will follow the rules of that "Wall of Arrows" event? Like the formation literally has a shield?
Great guide on the inscriptions and thank you for linking my youtube!
At first this game was like gather resources, build and fight.
Then you have to get those new commander.
Then you have all those expensive equipment and city skin.
Than you have to get all those different kvk equipment.
Than you have to spend a lot in kvk for crystal.
Than you have max your vip.
Than there are these formation or ornaments etc.
This is not simple now it's like total complexity 🤣🤣🤣
I wonder new player would enjoy playing this game after learning all those.
you either stunt your account so you pay to play in kvkv or you whale the eff out like a moron chasing the never ending meta changes.
@@mikepreston4713 absolutely. Also they don't even fix issues like when you are playing with pc there are like so many bugs. When a pass fight happens the tremendous lag.
Yea im a year in and on my way out the door. It's too much to keep up with and when you have a life to live.... i already stopped spending. Just waiting for armaments to hit my kingdom then its arrivederci
Ye that's why there are so many dead kingdoms most quit once kvk ends
All these p2w options make you wanna quit the game. Im fine with some purchases, but this is way too much greed
Hey but when formation comes out? We are in pre kvk and event of formation end when we enter in kvk ..
when formation will be addicted to us ?
for Alex wedge works? or go hollow square?
Which formation do you recommend for pvp (non-rally leads, not a garrison leader?)
Mostly wedge.
I feel like A/T is for 1st formation,
Nevsky/Joan (Saladin/William),(Guan/Scipi) are for 3rd formation,
Trajan/Mulan is for 3rd formation and
Alex/scipi and (Alex/Charles) are for 4th formation
So scolas lucky coin becoming good now to use for garrison?
That’s an interesting idea
i don't think garrison army can use formation?
@@flavio7601 Of course they will be able to, armaments/formations is something you add to your commanders like you do with equipment. Similarly rallies will be running formations as well.
How many inscription can add in? And how to add it?
Hey chisgule, should i put tomes in mina or baibars?
Do you have any information, if you can change formation after you leave city? Like to benefit march speed formation and when you are about to fight to change to vedge formation or so? or it is like equipments and you can change it while your commander is in the city.
I don't think you can change your formation after you leave your city, I think you have to be at home
Are you able to use wedge formation on multiple marches that are out on the field?
Yes
hi chis i was recently watching ur restart project series and saw u used minamoto alot is he still good and should i still use him?
Ahhh yes, another system to pay for
so u need to have conquest coin to get an armament?
Thanks for this video!!
Chis, based on which I already get from quests one of them was legendary armament with already two inscriptions on it and 3,5% inf defence boost. It seems that on legendary you can have wo inscriptions and on epic only one.
Lilith getting more greadier and greadier.......
Any idea, when this will be released?
Do These things work in Olympia?
No
Hi awesome information.
Should I spend my gems in the 50k gem event tomorrow or wait until formation land?
curious if the rage draining would apply before or after rage cap
all those *on direct dmg affects* and skill dmg buffs sound like theyll scale well with sargon
Hollow Square is perfect for my Guan Scipio marches. He has a coin and Scipio has shield. That marches also get focused alot.
180k subscribers lol good job lol close to 200k 🙌🏻✌️👌🏽❤️
Thanks man, I'm having problem with these new things.
The question is this going to exalerate the fight or make even slower I mean you can modify some state that are missing from specific commanders I can get very tanky like a wall 🧱 😉 I'm hyped because its depend on luck like special talent its but I hope not they add more events not removing them
So the new rally meta will be a skill damage rally with that formation and a second rally with the echelon formation.
Hey chis!
Why didn't you talk about the ranged formation?
Damn I got a headache 🤦♂️ my filings are mixed up on this...between greedy Lilith and should I quit the game before I waste too much time on this...
Lmao, the game becoming more and more complicated, too many buttons to push
Just about to hit t5 with 70m+ kp have tons of these things many blues I wanna start breaking them down for my inf commanders.
Loved the vid hate what the game has become.
If you gets these are they permanent? I saved 9 coins afford to get and mess it up
Feels like first formation is OP with A/T
I was looking for the best random inscriptions worth equiping
Normal damage is a attribute
Unfortunaly even siege march speed is one as well
Chis can you make a vid on the new Lucern scrolls?
i reaally like the new formation & armament update ❤🔥⚡☕☕
Do one formation does counter eachother? Anyway it's real sounds complicated but sadly it seems one need to decide which formation he/she wants from the get go 😳
New kingdoms applied these formation but old kingdoms free 👍🤩
Chisgule i would like to say that in 2901 there is a whale in kvk1 his name is Monkey Clown he is a 108mil peak power player with almost 2billion kill points and almost 9million dead troops(t5's to be exact) he is a crazy whale and i would like it if you had him interviewed:)
Lol im in 2902, hes been running over us this entire kvk
Yes one gold coin per legendary armament. Just recicled one today.
So my march ( Scipio/ Alex) should have Shield buffs formations. ( *Cocoon* )... and my (Nevsky/Joan Prime) should have skill Damage buff.
Thx for the guide. A friendly tip that echelon is pronounced eh-shuh-laan.
The rage consumption would work great on tomy
Game over
People crying a lot. Just accept your own play style and pace and don’t compare yourself with others. Same as in real life. Just play and do your thing.
Another randomized pay to win system exactly what the game needs 🎉
These armaments and inscriptions gonna be so hard to learn I feel like.
What about ranged?
Ranged buffs are definitely powerful, but I still don’t know if I want to use three ranged marches (one inf, one archer, one cav) to justify focusing on those armaments.
notification bell gang rise up
POGGERS LET'S GOOOO
I am here!!
Hollow square is meant for Scipio Alex
This kinda reminds me of playing darts with a blind fold on.
You said the best formation for rally captains and garrison leads. But what for open field?
Thank you for your effort in this video. Kudos to you! ❤
These new systems sound like a nightmare to me as a mostly F2P (my only spending is the crystal prod boost each kvk). I'm only just getting into a position where I have decent commanders and working towards half-decent equipment. Now all of these overly complex extras, I'm really not interested. I feel like this is gonna be really polarizing and make just as many quit as be something others will enjoy. Ehh...
best choice is to tell Lilith to remove it.
“Equipment err armaments” have we have all accepted this is another equipment system? 😢
This update is unnecessary and garbage
Chis, here is an idea that you might really like. So dealing direct damage will give you a buff. If for example we are using joan/nevsky the cycle would be
Turn 1 direct damage boosted by the inscriptions
2
3 damage "nevsky"
4
5 damage "joan second hit.
So 5 sec cd will make it impossible for joan/nevsky.
But what if we are using a commander like sargon secondery or harald?
Here is what i have in mind.
Turn 1: primary damage "boosted"
2:
3 sargon activates his skill
4 damage
5 damage
6 damage "boosted again"
And in harald case, if ypu proc first second of the fight then if the primary is not pakal then the primary gets to get his skill damage boosted too. And if it is pakal then harald will just get the boost again. It is like harald would be so happy with this.
I guess what i am saying is, chance based on skill damage hitting with a cdis a direct buff for any commander with many primary skill damage hits
Because they can keep grttinv the boost eith no cd down time.
Echelon actually sucks.. you can only gain a max 5% additional percentage, but the kicker is the 1.2 times boost.. here's the results of my tests.. 1.) the buff bonus only affect other marches, not the one who has the echelon formation.. 2.) The factor is not that good. if the buff only gives 15%, you can only add 3% on that.. only those that goes above 25% bonus can maximize the +5%.. 3.) 5% additional percentage is negligible and you won't and shouldn't create a march just to buff other marches.. it's always better to use wedge, arch or hollow to maximize your trades..
To explain with examples, epic Joan gives 30% boost.. with an echelon formation that 30% will go up to 35%.. but epic Joan will not get the 35%, she will still get 30%.. the only march that will get that 35% will be given to marches around her.. and since the boost is only 1.2 times, lower percentages like Mulan who only gives 15% (w/o expertised), she can only go up to 18% not 20%..
Inscriptions are also really really difficult to find.. the ones in the shop is also very difficult to buy because legendary armaments only trade for 1 gold coin and you need at least 120?(can't remember the exact amount) gold coins to buy an inscription chest..
These golden inscriptions sound broken but we have to factor in how difficult to find these..
Did you try with Mulan? That would add 4% atk, def, health, and 5% march speed.
There is all damage stat for armaments, best I've seen so far is 1.8% all dam
must prepare to delete the rok. 😂
I played 1500days. and I would say it is time to think with ending point.
only take cash and even beginners level bugs they don't fix it.
more bundle but no more creation.
1500days spender just a joke to LLs.
First, Let me watch this goodies
All damage is available I have one on my kvk 2 account
Just when I am quite happy with my development on Equipments, now this, imma quit, bye
Hi Chisgule 👋
This is way to much been playing for 2 years formations seem like way to much.
F2P Death for sure...greedy Lillith
I think there will be a huge profit reduction after they drop this though 🤣 I see many players quit
Can confirm all damage is an armament attribute. There has to be like a 50% of barb reduction and gold mining speed because almost all of mine get that. I did manage to get 2 blue armaments with 3 archer stats but they were the ranged formation which isnt great because no skills. My best one is a purple cav one with skill damage inscription, all damage, cav defense, and something random. System is good but going to take years to get optimized legendary armaments in 4 slots with 2 inscriptions each for even one march let alone 5 or 7 in some kvks
This addition to the game is so dumb
I dont understand the inscription thing. Isnt there some easy way to explain it? It really repulse me to learn unnecessary complicated stuff
Was saving money to get back into game, this has turned me away from game
Run as far as u can m8 dont even look back, these ppl will introduce more gsrbage
Why im I watching this while drunk!!
Sounds like it would be a great time for quit I’m a low/F2P spender. Guess this is the last KVK for me. Too complicated and just seems like another way for big spenders to wipe off all F2P.
Aye, guess I have to spend more until I’m even more broke and in debt 😂…
i hope you can inscribe and uninscribed the inscriptions
Ok
I feel all this is like a bone lillith tossing at rok players to keep use busy while they work or other games / project . And have a last rush of income money from rok
That way the game will turn to bullschit....
That's way alote of players will quite the game.....
You need to play over then 15 years to heve a good march....
I quite it just for that bullschit....
Like material wer you still wen you pay bonduls on shop you don't get enaf to finish one gear.....
I think it's all unnecessary and too complicated. it will only make more players stop playing
This is a little ridiculous to be honest pushing out commanders like crazy and people can't keep up and now this crap is literally making the gap bigger. How about make the museum buffs on commanders better be they are literally a waste of reward