Blackmagic Camera App For Android is HERE….kinda
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The problem with Android devices is that Google doesn't force manufacturers to use CameraX API or olders versions of Android's camera API, instead, Samsung and other companies just develop their own camera API for their own devices and disabled CameraX, so that leads third party apps like BlackMagic Camera App to do some tricks to sort the limitations because companies just disable some camera functionalities like the access of UltraWide lenses. It's sad but is the truth behind the software development on Android
I think it's Google who is limiting it exclusively to their phone
@@dawndown4767 No, I don't think so, Blackmagic camera app is already available on some Samsung's devices, maybe they have worked together, that is possible in this situation. But for others third party camera apps it's not like that, cameraX API is open source as Android Operating System it is too. The problem with camera apps are both, Google and manufacturers. I'm talking about API and some other programming stuff that maybe you don't know about (I'm a programmer student at the moment), so I will try to explain it briefly. An API is like a program that let's an Operating System communicate with some Hardware pieces (like lenses, temperature sensors, speakers, etc), we (programmers) need the API to create apps, without that, the programs just won't work at all, if the API limits us the apps just won't work as expected, that is exactly what happens at Android software development for camera apps. The companies usually prefer to develop their apps for iPhone because the hardware won't change so much between product versions and they are not that limited
@@dawndown4767 completely ignored OP's comment
Companies like FiLMiC and BlackMagic, often work with select phone manufacturers to utilise the system level APIs. Which is why I assume, they're starting with Pixel and Samsung, because Sony, aren't really a big player unfortunately, their software team would be a fraction the size of Google's and Samsungs.
@@damienlobb85 Nope. It's cause Sony uses its own camera API Most phone manufacturers do.
Pretty much makes it impossible for devs to optimize the camera.
Was able to download on my S23 Ultra.
I have Pixel 7. It does support it.
how did you get it to work, I can only get the permission page.
@@michaeld.krochter5623 Go directly into the app's permissions in the system settings and enable all the permissions, then go back to the app and re-click the permission checkboxes there; the bottom button should switch to Continue.
can pixel 4a 5g and pixel 6a work ?
I use pixel 7 pro, and I downloaded it and used it normally, very good for filming
Installed it on my pixel 8 pro, but no Log, just rec.709 and BT2020 HLG10 . Or at least I cannot find the function to change it
at the moment video specs is like the stock app with Blackmagic UI
I have a galaxy S23, and i was able to just install it. i am so excited. i hope they port it over to more phones soon.
The regular s23 or the Ultra. Looking to upgrade my phone and don't see a huge difference between the s23 and s24 for the price difference but running the Black Magic app might just convince me 😂. Thanks
@@MrShanePhoto regular s23
@@jadefinchscene5644 incredible thank you for the quick reply.
Works fine on the Galaxy S23 Ultra
available for my Pixel 8 Pro. We recently got the ability to use our phone as a webcam so think recording to an external drive isn't here as yet. Maybe Google is working on it and will get it in Android 15.
It is not the case of Android 15 or Pixel not being able to, since you can do it with MotionCam Pro, actually been able to do this for years with MotionCam.
@@TheChazas well it's up to Black Magic then.
Samsung S23 (normal) ... Instalation with no problems :) There are some bugs, but I can finally shoot at 25fps! App crashes only when I tried to manually select the shutter angle. I hope that we will get some sort of log color profile in the future :)
they picked apple!!?? no they didn't pick anything, they were already working apple to create a camera that would make content for the apple vision pro which it is now officially announced, this app have no purpose for blackmagic other than to give the iphone the capability to create content for the vision pro using their software and hardware experience which later after people pushed for it, they made one for android but they were lazy to make it for all android phones
Yeah. Was holding out hope for my pixel 6 but... 🤷♂️
how about now ?
*I have an Android UI 6.1 running on my Samsung Galaxy S22 with an 8K 24p camera, and I can't find the App available for download in playstore searches. I see it listed for Samsung S23 and S24, but since I have only an S22 I'm not qualified to run this App maybe ?*
Funny that s23 and s22 are almost the same
Not the hardware @@Sashalexandros
I just heard about Blackmagic app and was able to DL it for Samsung s22 ultra [Aug 2024]...but it feels like it's lacking.
It only allows up to 4k, only up to 30fps in any res, only rec709, and then h264 and h265 on the s22.
Unfortunate no log type profiles or other formats or codecs (yet), no 10 bit (unless it auto does in h265 and just dont know), and no 60/120 fps.
It has a lot of potential so hopefully some more options like 10 bit and a log profile will be available at some point.
It runs on the Pixel 7 Pro without any problem
It doesn't work with stabilization 😢
Can you record your front camera at 60fps? I'm in Pixel 8 and it's not letting me.
@@meroinheroin No, maximum is 30 fps
Downloaded the app on my pixel 8 pro as soon as I saw it was available. No external recording, no ProRes, no log. The only 3 things I cared about. Deleted the app.
Compatible for the S23 and S24 but not the Samsung Fold 5?
I have the S24 and downloaded the app but it doesn't have the latest updates that IPhone has like Rack focus
I have tried it and it's good, but it's not spectacular, but I need more time..
I'm on an S24 Ultra and I can see there are features missing.
I have an Samsung S21 Ultra and I can download and run this. Works well but does not find the 2 telephoto cameras. I think the Lightroom camera had a similar problem.
Android phones use a wider variety of cameras than iPhones, so the app can't be compatible with all Android phones, especially the older ones. Mr. Alex Tech covered this months ago. I'm saving up for a S24 Ultra because I will not switch to Apple.
Come on Michael 100K Coming UP!!!! You Deserve it!
Being able to download it to my normal Samsung S23, I'm learning how to use it!
Vivo x100 ultra that came out not even a month ago and not compatible...
Anyway, Apple is simpler.
just download and install its apk and it will work properly as i am using this app in my budget realme narzo phone by installing its apk
I am ASTOUNDED that they didn't release it on the samsung galaxy tab s9 ultra. Laaaaaaame.
I wasnt expecting it to work on all phones, but the list of compatible devices is minuscule
Galaxy s21 here, apparently I am not worthy of downloading this natively
It's not compatible with my device ..Xiaomi 14 ultra!
It work on xiaomi 14u. But not officially.
@@experimentarium2277 how did you downloaded it?
Yes, compatible with my Google Pixel 8 Pro!
I was able to download it on my pixel 7 Pro
Works on my galaxy s23
samsung has 20% market share , has like 10 devices all the time , theres apple with 16% and they have like 6 devices ( or atleast camera setups ) right now , so as a developer i can easily develop for every iphone and make the app optimized , as they are pretty comparably in specs and performance as well ( to a certain level ) samsung ? they dont do that ,they are more varied and have a very very big price range , spec and performance differences are obviously huge as well. so it just aint possible for most devs to build specific optimized apps for android that will run good on any device
Can't shoot 4k 60 or even 8k on my S22+ 😔
Base S21 doesnt have 60fps yet, no telephoto lens and video looks awful. looks like my old A01 phone, and was disappointed but I understand that this just came out for older devices and samsung uses a different camera API.
Same experience here. No 60fps and that's frustrating. Do you use Filmic pro ?
@@Boimareek never heard of that... hows your experience with filmic pro?
Am a software developer and to let you know, I had a worst time publishing on its rather than on Android. Apple prevented me to publish on the App store because when they reviewed the app, they said it was safari when it beared 0 resemblance
Does anyone know if it will allow 25/100 fps PAL settings. Google just doesn't want to sort this for their PAL customers.
Don't get too upset. Black Magic for iOS any iPhone with iOS 16.0 or later and the A12 Bionic chip or later.
What's going on I don't have an apple phone with these specs. My iphone x uses an older processor.
It's normal for new apps to use the latest hw. The pixel 7 is almost 2 years old now. Blackmagic may add more phones but they won't be older models. This app is highly hardware dependent so it's not so easy to offer it on many platforms
It's not like motion cam, but it's free😅
They're developing it for only the newest class of ARM processors, most probably. The entirety of the Android platform hasn't moved to Qualcomm Elite X or equivalent. Once it's done so, Android tablets seem poised to knock out iPads and likely Windows laptops for most uses. Hard-core video editing on workstations has an installed base using Apple and Windows workstations. That's DVRs bread and butter, for now. They can afford to lag on Android, with no backwards-compatible worries
Not compatible for samsung fold 5
Thanks for being on point with this, Michael!
I have an older Sony Xperia and am getting ready to upgrade. I am holding off b/c this BM app will help tip the scales.
I hope I can stay Sony, or at least Andriod. But maybe I will have to move to iPhone, hope not.
I have Pixel 7a... had to reboot my phone, but it is recording and seems great. Android users are LUCKY to even have Blackmagic even try to offer this. By even starting to offer this on Android, they are opening a HUGE headache for themselves... I'm sorry you don't have a phone that they support... and I too would be bummed if I didn't have a phone they support. But the truth is this... why should any company continue to offer free apps and programs if all they get is butthurt headaches. You don't "deserve" BMD Camera app any more than you deserve 4k 120,,, unless you buy a camera that actually can do it. As a developer I would heave NEVER offered an Android version.... no upside and every downside.
I have the S23 Ultra and I can download and run the app. My gripe is there is no option to de-squeeze anamorphic footage on the device as there is on iPhone.. 🤬
Tried on my s24u works great. Think this will be used more than samsungs own
I'm happy with MotionCam Pro 😂
About stabailization ?
Not compatible with Xiaomi 14 Ultra. Don't care. Between the LOG recording on stock camera app and Motioncam I am pretty much covered for video recording.
It's not support samsung note10 plus😢😢 any one please help me
It's too old ui and hw. I have the same one and check out xda developers for great ideas and mods and rooting for most devices.
I just got it on my Pixel 7 Pro
1:17 Thats Realme gt2 , its not basic 😭, really nice 10 bit video using mcpro camera app
Just installed on my S24 Ultra. I didn't connect an external SSD but didn't see an option to use either. Maybe if it is connected there will be an option. Very disappointed that my S22 Ultra isn't compatible (yet?) since that is my second cam. VERY happy to see all lens available. Other apps I have tried don't let you use every lens. Haven't really tried it yet but so far, pretty good I guess. Hoping I can record to external. Not a deal breaker but sure would help. Also I have to try my Shure external stereo USB mic. I don't foresee an issue but since most of what I shoot is concerts and music, I count on that for good sound. I did see it allows mic 1 or mic 2 but not sure what that means yet! When I shoot concerts without my external mic I shoot in Pro Video so that I can use just the rear mics. I don't want to hear me singing along on the videos 😂. Hopefully I can choose rear only, but with only 1:& 2 as options, not sure how that would be? The pro mode allows front only, rear only, or both. Thanks for the video. I wouldn't have known this was available. Loved it on my iPhone 15 Pro Max. Too bad I hated the phone! I keep trying to like iPhones but can't deal with the limitations and the UI. I use my iPad Pro to edit videos though with Luma. Honestly it's just as easy to transfer from my Android as it was with my iPhone, especially if using external SSD anyway. iPhone does have the advantage shooting to SSD though since it is faster. I don't shoot in 8K usually so the speed on my Samsung is fine. Not sure it would hold up to 8K though.
No man, it's samsung and their crappy stategy, the remove ability to record externally since they removed sd slot
Is it actually the same? I do not see anywhere to change the lens to anamorphic like the iOS
Just made a follow up comparing each of the features. Unfortunately yes anamorphic is missing in the first version of the Android version
@@initialfocus thanks I hadn't seen it yet, I thought I was going crazy, big big bummer I've been loving the 1.5 ana lens. I'll check out the comparison video thanks for reaffirming I'm not stupid or crazy though 🤣🖤
Thanks for this, I didn't realise it was ready for likes of myself having upgraded to S24plus from my trusty S10 plus. But yep, as you say, very few product makers are using the basic Android. My S24plus doesn't let me record to an external source (well not that I can find at least) so perhaps that is why the feature doesn't exist?
I have it on my google pixel 7 and it's not working right. I gave it all the permissions but won't go into the program.
Currently not compatible with ROG Phone 6D Ultimate, Android 14, 16GB RAM
Works on S23 Ultra
Can confirm the BlackMagic App works on OnePlus Pro 10!
I have same issue...
First of all who is she in the thumbnail
My wife haha
Does anybody know if this includes functionality of the Blackmagic Camera Control app for Apple/iPad devices as well? I don't see an option for connecting via Bluetooth.
Working perfectly on my ancient Pixel 5.
How’d you get it?!
Bro how did you get that, even my pixel 6 doesn't support for now!
@@vaibhavn20124 APKmirror
I just downloaded it for the Samsung Galaxy S23+
The BlackMagic website says:
"Get high end digital film camera controls and image processing on Samsung and Google Pixel phones!"
I also thought they had said that it was only going to be on Samsung at NAB?
Also for others confused about log, if you understand what Log actually is, you will know why they can't add it to these phones.
Log is a method of encoding (turning the measured voltages into code values), the thing that does that is the camera itself, typically the API's that the phone's OS offers will give the app the frame/picture after encoding.
There is no point in encoding twice, or decoding and encoding again, as you don't have the original sensor information anymore, so you aren't going to gain anything. That is why Filmic Pro's "log" wasn't really that beneficial, while Apple Log is...because Apple added the ability to use a whole different imaging pipeline to their camera, meaning that you can now request log frames/images via their API, allowing you to receive more information, at the cost of having to process it in post.
Motioncam is the only Android app allowing true log, not just one either, but many more like Panasonic VLog, DaVinci Intermediate, etc. It records RAW video and can therefore encode it direct from RAW into ProRes or HEVC on Android real-time or in post, with many gammas, gamuts and color space of choice
Blackmagic sort of dropped ball on their implementation tbh.
Just turn contrast and sharpness all the way down, and possibly saturation, highlights, and shadows slightly down.
Or just see if can get the old Technicolor Cinestyle installed.
Lol
The specs state that the app is supported from Android 13 onwards. Therefore, despite the Play Store's restriction to certain brands and models, any Android phone running version 13 or 14 should work. For instance, my S21 Ultra with Android 14 functions perfectly. There might be some restrictions based on the CPU. From the metadata, I've noticed that the encoder used for my S21 Ultra is an Exynos version (c2.exynos.hevc.encoder), and there's definitely a Snapdragon version as well. I'm not sure about other CPUs, and this lack of support for encoding on different CPUs could be the reason for the restrictions.
Apk😂
S23 Ultra works great. I think no external recording though
I just downloaded on my S23 Ultra.
It work on xiaomi 14u, Pixel 6 pro and vivo x90pp. But not officially. We need ask BM for support more another smartphones
How did you downloaded it? I have 14 ultra and can't download it.
@@toxotis70 I can't give an unofficial version of the app. But I confirm that it can work on other smartphones as well.
How ro solve the drop frames?
would be greate to see some comparasions
not for my galaxy s10 lite >
Works great in Samsung S24
Do it supports color grading or not ?
weird that it said for my pixel 6 not supported and here i am able to sideload the apk, install it, and run it, investigating the app files though found a lot of restriciations on which type of android devices to use that app ( Android 14, specific camera hardware requirements, other stuff )
will keep testing and will understand why they are doing this
….how does one sideload the APK? Teach me and I’ll do an update video and credit you haha
@@initialfocuslook for it in APK Mirror and install the apk.
@@initialfocus you can google "apkmirror" followed by whatever app you are looking for and they host the apk files used to install apps on android devices. The blackmagic app is already on there. The android device will need to have the setting "Install apps from unknown sources" activated. I did this on my OnePlus 12 and the app loads up the UI after giving all the permissions but I just get a black camera screen, no camera feed into the app I guess.
UGH! Just as I’m about to crash out your video pops up & of course I must watch it. Damn it Michael you’re messing w/my REM.😉🤣
Great video…once again!👊
I literally was falling asleep at 1am when BM decided to drop the update so I felt like a zombie making this video 😂😂 appreciate you tuning in! 🙌🏼
It works so good on my base s23!
Supported which Sony Xperia???
It works on my S23+Ultra, but still no Prores codecs.
S23fe exynos I got it
Not available for zfold 5
Samsung s23 🎉
it is working on my s23u
The larger question is - do Android phones really need the BM camera app? Does it have unique feature missing from all the other Android camera apps or is this just a case of app envy?
You do know that all of the components in the iPhone are manufactured by other companies like Samsung, which makes the displays.
Creating a free app for a few very expensive flagship phones is an insult to videographers who truly need a free or affordable professional video camera.🤬 Let's hope the developers of the mcpro24fps camera don't introduce a subscription model, as it works perfectly on all phones, not just a select few.
What the hell are you talking about? This stuff is provided at no charge and you're still complaining? This is the most ridiculous and entitled comment I have seen in ages. Get a grip.
If you are a videographer, you already have the proper equipment. It's also free.
@@Sodacake You misunderstand me. I'm in favor of free software. That's cool. But why would I want that free software if it works on multiple flagships? I have fairly modern phones, but none of them have this camera working on them. Or should I get a Samsung flagship to go along with the free camera?
@@bassyey If free was good no one would buy camera apps like filmic, mcpro24fps and others. Although I agree that the main thing here is the idea and desire. Masterpieces are shot on stock cameras.
@@aliaksjrslavein8193 You don't have to do anything. your life is the same as it was before this was announced.
Crazy. Didn’t know anybody actually used android phones lol! That way they can import it on their windows PC’s so it can constantly crash, I guess?
...Android has like 80% market share, my dude. What a strange thing to say.
@@AdamFunk 80% globally. Because they cover the budget phone industry. Aka junk. Apple has 60% of the US share.
@@ThisIsLeeBird you're funny, there is a lot of android phones better than iphone, try to get out of your bubble
Android and Windows are the same garbage! And for that reason I only use Apple products, because just works.
That is bs but good for you, i use both.