I MISS THE OLD RICK OWENS

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2024

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  • @jjjjjjaylon
    @jjjjjjaylon 2 місяці тому +166

    New Rick Old Rick Evil Rick I still like Rick and Morty, last season was pretty good.

    • @Jimob-h8f
      @Jimob-h8f 2 місяці тому +5

      So much Rick it got them mortified

    • @JeuneF
      @JeuneF 2 місяці тому

      Is last season really worth watching ?

    • @roninhoppe9188
      @roninhoppe9188 Місяць тому

      @@JeuneF yes

    • @silverloveguns
      @silverloveguns Місяць тому +1

      forgot pickle Rick

    • @JeuneF
      @JeuneF Місяць тому

      @@roninhoppe9188 aight imma give it a try then

  • @mikeyestrada1674
    @mikeyestrada1674 Місяць тому +31

    Fun fact alot of the kids who work for Ann Demeulemeester come from the Rick Owens Tyler team. They transferred a lot of the glamour rock into Ann D as well with a more hedi Slimane approach with the internal structure of the company.

    • @juanlukey
      @juanlukey Місяць тому +1

      no wonder why i love the work at AD so much

    • @strawberrymilklounge
      @strawberrymilklounge Місяць тому

      ooo this is really interesting

    • @Cardsmaster
      @Cardsmaster Місяць тому

      Those are grown ass adults.

  • @melchior_
    @melchior_ 2 місяці тому +52

    Your generalisation of the modern rick owens era as being all glam and flashy is just wrong. If you look at most of the pieces actually being sold in new seasons most pieces are still practical, functional and good quality also often pretty minimal and understated too. Like yeah sure there have been more flashy pieces in recent year but I feel like you just ignore so many other pieces and collections as they don't fit this narrative your portraying.

    • @maximumsingularity7335
      @maximumsingularity7335 Місяць тому +6

      partially true, yes there are always plenty of minimal practical pieces not going full-glam in each new collection, but still the new center of gravity of the brand is 100% percent moving in the glam direction full steam, with Tyrone setting the vibe. And a lot of old-school rick fans don't connect with the new vibe. I know it's my case. I always find something I can like, buy and wear in each new collection, but the Rick brand is no longer making me crazy like it was pre-Tyrone. The whole vibe of the brand has shifted into something new. Yes, it has opened the brand to new audiences and cemented his global success, but it is also alienating the old-school fanbase. He might not need this fanbase anymore in terms of business tho....

  • @yerith
    @yerith 2 місяці тому +90

    😭ur exposure is so high

    • @ashtmslf2315
      @ashtmslf2315 2 місяці тому +33

      bro looks like he covered himself in chalk before recording

    • @karstenkroening
      @karstenkroening  2 місяці тому +16

      DAMN WTF

    • @karstenkroening
      @karstenkroening  2 місяці тому +22

      New editing program I am using kicking my ass

    • @troyflatland5299
      @troyflatland5299 2 місяці тому +5

      @@karstenkroeningit’s not the editing program it’s you not knowing how to use a camera. Or the program. Do your eyes work? When you were editing did you not see a ghost? WTF

    • @Serving50blessings
      @Serving50blessings 2 місяці тому +13

      It’s just the aura

  • @str1d3r26
    @str1d3r26 2 місяці тому +40

    You blend into the walls

  • @jcg_001
    @jcg_001 2 місяці тому +139

    This video is a mess and totally inaccurate about the earlier work of Rick Owens. If anything the “first era” would be from the start of his eponymous work up until and including his first (maybe several) runway shows as he never expected to become a runway designer. This era is actually heavily glam despite what you said - shows like Monster are very inspired by glam and queer culture and this era is also full of pieces using interesting and exotic materials: leathers, silks, furs, etc.
    The next era would then probably be from then until around 2013 with the vicious collection. This early runway era was all similar, fairly unadorned shows, and was a move away from gritty queer culture and from heavy uses of the dust colourway, and more into monochromatic black looks with a more minimalist aesthetic etc.
    The next era after that would be from 2013 until 2016 which would absolutely be the most high-minded and conceptual section of his career so far. Rick is using a lot of elaborate show concepts with bands, dance troupes, the infamous “dickhole” show, the women carrying each other and so on. Have no idea how you can claim that this era of shows aren’t as conceptual or as meaningful as his most recent work?? Given he’s exploring topics like diversity, male sexuality, how women support one another and also really avant-garde proposals of the body as a form of architecture.
    What you cite as a distinct change with Larry actually happened with Glitter several years earlier where you see the transition to the bright outdoor location, the much more glam models and designs and the very loud/playful statement pieces. Yes Larry introduced the Kiss heels and very visibly marked, or confirmed the shift, but it wasn’t the origin of it.
    This vid just lacks a lot of research and thought. While there have been a few very recent shows with great conceptual underpinnings, and Rick is using loud, colourful, exotic materials. He has always done variations on this and if anything the show concepts now are simpler in comparison to that 2013-2016 section that made him so widely celebrated. This isn’t to downplay his recent work but I think you’re really glossing over where his recent work sits within his wider career.

    • @JafacaksWasTaken
      @JafacaksWasTaken 2 місяці тому +16

      huh gay

    • @space_opera
      @space_opera 2 місяці тому +19

      You don't gotta be a dick about it

    • @kitsmith2160
      @kitsmith2160 2 місяці тому +10

      I was going to say the same thing it seems as though there's been 4 primary era of Owens' work with era one being the subversive hyper seductive pre-runway era of the 90s, to the very much utilitarian and arguably margiela inspired era of the 2000s to about 2012-13, then of course the heavily experimental era of structural and architecturally informed work from 2013 to about 2016 to 2018 (I thing the first shift in the era happened with his split with Jera) but can truly be capped off with Sisyphus where we see the final runway usage of the classic rick owens color palette, and now into the hyper glam era we, in my opinion are currently exiting with both Porterville and Hollywood that spans from 2018 to now.

    • @jcg_001
      @jcg_001 2 місяці тому +7

      @@kitsmith2160 agreed, I think Jera marks that transition and with Portville and Hollywood we're starting to move out of the glam into something different again - it seems to be more militant and based in fetish culture.

    • @tanyatanya3810
      @tanyatanya3810 2 місяці тому

      Встречали ли вы хороший разбор творчества rick owens?

  • @AlexG0ld
    @AlexG0ld 2 місяці тому +32

    Rick Owens pod shorts and sock ramones era 🗿

  • @manewilk8341
    @manewilk8341 2 місяці тому +9

    i miss the old karsten kroening

  • @firewalkwithme90
    @firewalkwithme90 2 місяці тому +10

    What I miss the most about Rick is the old second hand prices. I like the new stuff as well aesthetically, but I haven't bought anything from this newer era yet.

  • @soy-boy-troymcclure5967
    @soy-boy-troymcclure5967 Місяць тому +2

    I can appreciate the new Rick approach with the playful colors, materials, and cuts but I wish they kept some of the more foundational pieces stocked better. Very hard to find some of the older Rick denim cuts and sometimes even the footwear…

  • @KCMRSM
    @KCMRSM 2 місяці тому +15

    every video is just regurgitated waffle with terrible inaccuracies, instagram meme pages made shit hell

  • @BrazenBull001
    @BrazenBull001 2 місяці тому +14

    Here before the reupload

  • @hvrrington2336
    @hvrrington2336 2 місяці тому +8

    it’s nice seeing olmar & mirta Rick pieces showing up more and more but prices are insane lol

  • @UnimportantAcc
    @UnimportantAcc 2 місяці тому +8

    Take a shot for every Rick

  • @dnali6007
    @dnali6007 2 місяці тому +6

    imo the recent explosion of rick in popularity allows him to explore crazy techniques and use higher end leathers and skins... the takes in the video were wild! and not to be that asshole, but as a current rick customer its apparent u havent shopped in a while. some of my go to pieces: ro banana tank is inherently a perfect tank top, his waxed cotton/ sequin denim dresses have immense stretch, and and his use of cupro as the outer most layer of clothes is perfect for lightweight durability. new rick rocks!

    • @dnali6007
      @dnali6007 2 місяці тому +1

      also, i mean this with respect and kindness!

  • @VuNguyen-fv5jl
    @VuNguyen-fv5jl 2 місяці тому +5

    Still elements of practicality remains. Best example would be the grab bar that sits on the back shoulder. I can get warm easily, so having those bars are great way to take off a jacket without holding it over your arm

  • @blackwornwhite134
    @blackwornwhite134 Місяць тому +6

    The discussion of his alcoholism is a little tasteless tbh

  • @donkelly4718
    @donkelly4718 Місяць тому

    I joined the Rick fan train pretty late, I think, but not so late that I didn't see enough of the "1st gen" Rick to feel and be...somewhat disenchanted by this new "2nd gen" Rick. Because they are 2 opposite extremes of the same design ethos, and because this new Rick is still so new....as he did with his og efforts....I think he's exploring and refining and what will happen is he will find and settle into a nice middle ground area that incorporates the best of both and is a truer representation of Rick

  • @juanlukey
    @juanlukey Місяць тому

    In my opinion, Rick Owen's embodied a sense of minimalism in color and was more simple in terms of design as opposed to his new approaches of a variety of shapes and designs

  • @jlyt18
    @jlyt18 2 місяці тому +3

    Genuinely hard to watch especially on the runway clipa with the flahsing lights, hope you figur eout the new editting program lol

  • @I_WALKED_IN_ON_IT
    @I_WALKED_IN_ON_IT Місяць тому

    I bought my first Rick piece in 2010. Experienced the geodunk era in real time and rocked Ramones’ at my minimum wage job lol. Wild times.

  • @jackdawson1054
    @jackdawson1054 Місяць тому

    I love the classic I see now beat on your videos

  • @Lee-io7dm
    @Lee-io7dm Місяць тому +1

    thought I mis-clicked on my spotify for a sec. 9:21

  • @culturenotice
    @culturenotice Місяць тому +1

    i wouldn't say tyrone is totally undisciplined 😭 tbf he does outwardly show some of the physical discipline that rick has made references to (he's fit, obv goes to the gym, + a good muse/model to rick bc of that)

  • @archaics18
    @archaics18 2 місяці тому

    old rick just hits different frfr

  • @thaillling9369
    @thaillling9369 Місяць тому

    My personal favorite era was mountain/naska and sphinx. I think cyclops and glitter were really exciting visually. I wish he would go back to making his version of what used to be fairly normal and often formal clothes. It used to be so aspirational. Not so much anymore. He was such an important figure in my life, my inspirations, the friends I made, I even flew to italy for the large exhibition in milan. That was sort of the apex, everything changed after that.

  • @ENO2169
    @ENO2169 Місяць тому

    I would divide it into more eras honestly, from 2003-2006 is beginning rick mostly women's stuff, peak Rick for me is 2007-2009, a lot of the standard rick stuff came here as well as some of the best leathers and leather designs as well as coats, then 2010-2014 is an era 2010 in particular was more glam but then settled into cleaner tamer stuff, then came the what is fashion era with distortion fo the body and onesies and sleeping bags etc which is the 2015-2018 era maybe the worst of the eras and now the Larry/Glam era 2019-present which i feel is probably the 2nd best era and the best part is if ur a real Rick head and lived and breathed all these eras its really easy to mix almost all of it, u dont have to choose to stay in a particular era if u know what ur doing. I mix Crust w/ Larry all the time or Geth with Moog etc...

  • @dmoore3306
    @dmoore3306 22 дні тому

    His last show was FULL of bodybuilders

  • @Myles_c107
    @Myles_c107 Місяць тому

    Me personally I prefer new Rick but I think the older designs were more thought out

  • @nicj4154
    @nicj4154 2 місяці тому +5

    Everyone became color grading experts outta nowhere

  • @euso2008
    @euso2008 2 місяці тому +3

    I like the androgynous look of some of the fits

  • @matthewgent5908
    @matthewgent5908 2 місяці тому +10

    I don’t know wether it’s intentional but your assessment “Rick takes Tyrone on lavish holidays while his wife sits at home” is both a gross misunderstanding of how polyamory works and incredibly insulting to Michelle Lamy’s personal agency.
    She is a hugely important figure in fashion. Not only does she run the RO furniture line but regularly collaborates with artists and activists globally.
    Also: the show you site Tyrone solely modelling for was ss21.
    When the world was in lockdown.
    Do you think that might be why they chose a look book?

  • @From614th
    @From614th Місяць тому

    Shout out paradoxeparis for that “insane distressing” set

  • @solanareznor8309
    @solanareznor8309 2 місяці тому

    straight from the go rick-ay

  • @daltonmeyer3976
    @daltonmeyer3976 2 місяці тому

    great video

  • @janschwienbacher7568
    @janschwienbacher7568 2 місяці тому +5

    Bro get some sunlight

  • @liana_951
    @liana_951 2 місяці тому +1

    Great job precisely describing the clothes and the changing philosophy of Rick.

  • @JohnWick54935
    @JohnWick54935 29 днів тому

    One thing i do know is his boyfriend sure likes stareing at himself 😂

  • @GenesisGunn
    @GenesisGunn Місяць тому

    Agreed

  • @brentrill
    @brentrill Місяць тому

    we do NOT have the same definition of health goth

  • @muhammadshehryar3344
    @muhammadshehryar3344 Місяць тому

    Tbf, I like the new mainly because I like Glam Rock and all the divergent roots in music and style and even mainstream costume design that you could see in the late 70s with Disco/Dance and also it gave rise to the maximalist scumminess of punk rock when the glam became too mainstream, and also lost its touch. Idk I can see it all I said even in current Rick, that’s how “I” see it so @ me if I’m wrong

  • @b9ris707
    @b9ris707 16 днів тому

    The Lucentment and TikTok generation of Rick-admirers often tend to give an inaccurate idea on these houses. Unfortunately Karsten is not an exception in this case. No shade. The guys and ladies who are now at least in their mid 30s or 50s - meaning the people who actually lived through some Rick era's with a certain understanding (and/or fashion schooling or working experience at houses like this) - would highly disagree with this kind of content.
    The biggest change of Rick was around 2013 when the steppers showed up. It's quite a sensitive topic but Rick went from a sort of 'goth' and intellectual house to glorifying rappers, glorifying transg*nder culture, glorifying black culture and s*xworkers, etc. The focus really shifted.

  • @pvrq_s7881
    @pvrq_s7881 2 місяці тому +1

    ID on the jacket ?

    • @JeuneF
      @JeuneF 2 місяці тому

      Rick

  • @rxfal5153
    @rxfal5153 2 місяці тому +1

    What song is these little cut scenes ( 3:36 )

  • @RichardKilleaney
    @RichardKilleaney 3 дні тому

    You have missed the point. 90's Los Angeles Rick Owens repurposed ArmyNavy pieces into severe silhouettes that highlighted the distressed fabrics of worn military uniforms. The earliest leather jackets that Kate Moss and Courtney Love made famous in the early 2000's used leathers that were washed and dried and ironed to create dramatically distressed surfaces not usually seen on high-end leather goods. Owens' inspiration from 30's Hollywood and WWII bunkers and Catholic nuns results in shows like 2012's Mountain show, with knit veils and extreme cloaks. He has always been and is a gay man who married a woman who he loved. His hustler and gay background is present in all his collections, especially the Larry collection in honor of gay designer Larry Legaaspi who also married a woman he loved. To ignore Owen's gay background and presence in the Los Angeles gay club scene is to erase an essential part of his identity that is a pivotal part of his collections today more than ever. Thank god Rick is queer!

  • @SachaHolzken
    @SachaHolzken Місяць тому

    2HOLLIS MENTION???

  • @prodlxis
    @prodlxis 2 місяці тому +1

    2hollis??????????????????

  • @antoniohussey8936
    @antoniohussey8936 Місяць тому +3

    Eh, needs a little more research

  • @timbsatyowedding
    @timbsatyowedding 2 місяці тому +9

    bro how u so pale 😭😭😭

  • @bronzestandardlistening7415
    @bronzestandardlistening7415 2 місяці тому

    me too

  • @Anonymous-ee8zo
    @Anonymous-ee8zo 2 місяці тому +4

    I don’t miss it. As a person who is not a skinny white twink. I prefer his newer more generous cut. I could not participate with his clothes from earlier seasons bc the clothes are way too small in the shoulder and bicep. I’m not even fat, I just workout and am really muscular with a wide chest and shoulder area. It made me so happy to see someone so muscular in the Hollywood Show, especially since he was Black. I felt very seen.

  • @lucashlicata
    @lucashlicata 2 місяці тому

    Nice haircut :)

  • @undergroundplayground
    @undergroundplayground 2 місяці тому

    If I can help you out, download some free LUT and just stick in on the video

    • @karstenkroening
      @karstenkroening  2 місяці тому

      Thank you 😭

    • @undergroundplayground
      @undergroundplayground 2 місяці тому

      ​@@karstenkroening I didnt wanna sound agressive :D its just a really easy fix and I remember how glad I was when someone told me

  • @Josh-tw1gw
    @Josh-tw1gw 2 місяці тому +7

    If you weren't wearing rick in 2010-13 you're a 3rd 4th 5th wave supporter

    • @175dee9
      @175dee9 Місяць тому

      I was 8 in 2010 so I get a pass

    • @Josh-tw1gw
      @Josh-tw1gw Місяць тому

      @@175dee9 lmao

  • @rickyastro1506
    @rickyastro1506 2 місяці тому +3

    Dylan was the worst thing to happen to the Rick-verse

  • @plasma2942
    @plasma2942 2 місяці тому +7

    Tyrone is the yoko ono of rick owens

  • @martintran2502
    @martintran2502 Місяць тому

    Highly highly disagree with the “practicality” of new Rick. All of his new pieces can still fit that sandwich and passport in them, the internal pockets are absolutely huge, not to mention a lot of random pockets placed around a lot of the garments. The disco strap for wearing coats around the waist, the cotton webbing strap to carry outerwear on your shoulder when it gets too hot, the sleeve studs that convert a jacket to a bag, etc. You really need to do more research into the pieces before you make claims like this.
    Also, the Hollywood runway showed tons of plus size models on the runway, with Rick himself saying that “Rick Owens is for everybody.” So no you don’t have to be built like Tyrone to wear the new stuff. This video is full of misinformation

  • @foulplaylisu
    @foulplaylisu 2 місяці тому

    me too my real introduction to rick owens was around 2014/15

  • @philiplyczywek9084
    @philiplyczywek9084 2 місяці тому +1

    finally someone opens up about this!

  • @ME-df8xc
    @ME-df8xc 2 місяці тому +5

    bro wants to be tyrone so bad smh

    • @bella-zk6sy
      @bella-zk6sy 2 місяці тому

      who is tyrone?

    • @Joey-bx8uz
      @Joey-bx8uz 2 місяці тому

      @@bella-zk6sy the long blond hair guy rick always w/, basically rick's bf

  • @Trevbotics
    @Trevbotics Місяць тому

    Brother please go tan I had to turn my white balance down to see you

  • @mahalkokayonglahat
    @mahalkokayonglahat Місяць тому

    josh giddey on coke

  • @voxclan4659
    @voxclan4659 2 місяці тому

    Is it a hot take to say Yeezy is avant- grade and practical

  • @fanaticist
    @fanaticist 2 місяці тому

    hi Kirsten

  • @mas5791
    @mas5791 2 місяці тому

    bro think he rick owen

  • @lilred380
    @lilred380 Місяць тому +2

    Bro you’re like 17

  • @csjulian
    @csjulian Місяць тому

    current rick is more wearable than ever

  • @ryanwbourquin
    @ryanwbourquin 2 місяці тому +1

    dang tyrone took some blows lol

  • @wyattaveli
    @wyattaveli Місяць тому

    why did i see a picture of john pork on one of the photos

  • @jonnyfendi2003
    @jonnyfendi2003 2 місяці тому

    We all do!!!

  • @eliredx7614
    @eliredx7614 2 місяці тому

    FR

  • @Josh-tw1gw
    @Josh-tw1gw 2 місяці тому +11

    Karsten is such an arrogant hater

  • @tehclam
    @tehclam 2 місяці тому

    me too man

  • @mgophern
    @mgophern 2 місяці тому

    me too.

  • @cloyboy2493
    @cloyboy2493 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s the same vibe as Westwood and I’m sure other artists who’ve been in a similar boat. They let their boytoy have too much fun, and now they’re ruining it. Even if you’re not critiquing the design itself, the construction and quality of modern Rick is absolutely in the trash.

  • @Clear24chris
    @Clear24chris 2 місяці тому

    ME TOO

  • @mahalkokayonglahat
    @mahalkokayonglahat Місяць тому

    u on coke?

  • @maximumsingularity7335
    @maximumsingularity7335 Місяць тому +1

    great vid, couldn't have it said better. Old-school fans miss the old rick. but the New Rick needed to emerge in order to make the brand evolve and be a global success. Similar brands from the same niche from those early days (looking at you Boris) have stayed trapped in a repetitive circle of doing the same shit over and over again. I think the new rick is always brilliant, it's just not for me anymore. And I dislike the jet-set show-off vibe - look how great my life is - Tryone brings to the mix, he's totally taken way the humility and reserve that made the brand so unique, balancing the extravagance with the reserve.

  • @wheezergood
    @wheezergood Місяць тому

    You look like the guy from twilight, jasper or sum

  • @pjf2193
    @pjf2193 2 місяці тому

    Those drop crotch pants were hideous.

  • @thaillling9369
    @thaillling9369 Місяць тому

    Yes, thank you Tyrone -- who I enjoy, but we all can see the changes he has brought - which I stopped enjoying not long after Larry. The last show "hollywood" that everyone loved because of it's "message" was an abomination.

  • @dabiggesthellpfaneva
    @dabiggesthellpfaneva 2 місяці тому

    me2

  • @MarioT-m8z
    @MarioT-m8z Місяць тому

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  • @dundeedondee4361
    @dundeedondee4361 2 місяці тому +2

    Bro who cares about ur opinion on Rick, don’t get me wrong no hate,
    But u sound old 😂

  • @bubbychoner6697
    @bubbychoner6697 2 місяці тому +9

    This video is a mess and totally inaccurate about the earlier work of Rick Owens. If anything the “first era” would be from the start of his eponymous work up until and including his first (maybe several) runway shows as he never expected to become a runway designer. This era is actually heavily glam despite what you said - shows like Monster are very inspired by glam and queer culture and this era is also full of pieces using interesting and exotic materials: leathers, silks, furs, etc.
    The next era would then probably be from then until around 2013 with the vicious collection. This early runway era was all similar, fairly unadorned shows, and was a move away from gritty queer cculture and from heavy uses of the dust colourway, and more into monochromatic black looks with a more minimalist aesthetic etc.
    The next era after that would be from 2013 until 2016 which would absolutely be the most high-minded and conceptual section of his career so far. Rick is using a lot of elaborate show concepts with bands, dance troupes, the infamous “dickhole” show, the women carrying each other and so on. Have no idea how can claim that this era of shows aren’t as conceptual or as meaningful as his most recent work?? Given he’s exploring topics like diversity, male sexuality, how women support one another and also really avant-garde proposals of the body as a form of architecture.
    What you cite as a distinct change with Larry actually happened with Glitter several years earlier where you see the transition to the bright outdoor location, the much more glam models and designs and the very loud/playful statement pieces. Yes Larry introduced the Kiss heels and very visibly marked, or confirmed the shift, but it wasn’t the origin of it.
    This vid just lacks a lot of research and thought. While there have been a few very recent shows with great conceptual underpinnings, and Rick is using a loud, colourful, exotic materials. He has always done variations on this and if anything the show concepts now are simpler in comparison to that 2013-2016 section that made him widely celebrated. This isn’t to downplay his recent work but I think you’re really glossing over where his recent work sits within his wider career.

    • @philipwayne7794
      @philipwayne7794 Місяць тому +2

      Preach it! To add a touch further, the earlier work of Rick Owens hark back to his studio 98-2002 at 641 N Las Palmas Ave Los Angeles, where the LP District was a bit gritty, where queer culture, b boy, influences really took hold. This kid talks like he has had tea with Michèle Lamy at Café des Artistes and Les Deux....