Decoding the Mystery of Margiela

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
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    0:00 Intro
    1:09 Part 1-Rejection of Allure
    4:33 Part 2- Anonymity
    8:42 Part 3- Historical Garments
    11:04 Part 4- Deconstruction
    In this video, we go over the work of Maison Martin Margiela.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 64

  • @immabigkidnow1
    @immabigkidnow1 2 місяці тому +42

    When I wear my belt jacket, I feel like I’m the only one who matters.

    • @genesis2187
      @genesis2187 2 місяці тому +2

      I’m sure it’s the H x M one tho.

    • @upmysleev3s
      @upmysleev3s 2 місяці тому

      @@genesis2187 nah im pretty sure they r two different ones

    • @genesis2187
      @genesis2187 2 місяці тому +2

      @@upmysleev3s its a joke.

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому +1

      @@genesis2187 maybe but his H&M line is now just as expensive as the main line.

    • @jent14
      @jent14 Місяць тому

      @@upmysleev3sup my sleeves

  • @Antonio-ld3jo
    @Antonio-ld3jo 2 місяці тому

    havent seen one of your vids in years. contents great man, keep it up!

  • @genesis2187
    @genesis2187 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video. I think what we really need is a break down of what makes the garments so fucking special rather then coming at it from a philosophical approach. Clothing referenced the clothing, alongside using Man Ray as the blueprint for reference in relation to concept.

  • @MintyFreshAF
    @MintyFreshAF 2 місяці тому +4

    MAISON MARGIELA, ALL I SEE IS NUMBERS RAIN ON MY UMBRELLA 808S LIKE THUNDER💯💯💯🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

  • @beauwalker4002
    @beauwalker4002 2 місяці тому

    Excellently informative video

  • @english_breakfastwo
    @english_breakfastwo 2 місяці тому

    an another quintessential life lesson I take.

    (btw I particularly like the reading part)

  • @JeuneF
    @JeuneF 2 місяці тому +3

    These videos are so interesting I wish it was +30 minutes, can’t get enough under 20 minutes tbh

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      watch the Margiela documentaries and you'll learn way more

  • @patrickpatel5527
    @patrickpatel5527 2 місяці тому

    Great video bruv. I learned so much about Martin Margiela and his clothes from you.

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      darling...watch the documentaries about him. this says not much at all.

  • @WHATT001
    @WHATT001 2 місяці тому +1

    hope u blow up big bro love ur content ♥

  • @mscdwella
    @mscdwella 2 місяці тому +8

    Ayo my richard millie look like а g shock

    • @donutboi9843
      @donutboi9843 Місяць тому +1

      Margiela split the toes with my rebook

  • @josuecalderon197
    @josuecalderon197 Місяць тому +1

    14:32 i fr thought the numbers were like a sizing system

  • @atlam928
    @atlam928 2 місяці тому +20

    rise and fall of karsten kroening

  • @gabrielmenoscal9911
    @gabrielmenoscal9911 2 місяці тому

    Love that intro😂

  • @eforenything
    @eforenything 2 місяці тому +1

    Always love the philosophical approach. Tying in Maslow’s hierarchy was a nice touch. Much love keep it up.

  • @ieatcats2581
    @ieatcats2581 2 місяці тому +1

    Very well done video, however I have a few questions about Margiela’s brand as someone whose first introduction was this video.
    1) You mentioned that Margiela’s art was supposed to be a “rejection of allure”, however he only used models whose bodies were tall, skinny and fit the conventional standards. I understand that the focus is supposed to be on the clothing, however if he was truly trying to create are that is a rejection of allure, why would he use models that are attractive and alluring to wear said clothing?
    2) It was also said that he remained anonymous to give credit to the rest of his team helping him create and design his clothes, however he named his brand after himself effectively contradicting everything this anonymity stands for. I also don’t understand how hiding the identity of his models and teams and only revealing his own name is giving credit to them. Doesn’t that make no sense?
    3) Margiela rejected the idea of tags, labels and flexing but he himself put tags on his clothes. Even if they were made to be removed easily, realistically, anyone paying that much money for Margiela items would not remove it. If he truly rejected the idea as a whole, would he not of completely refused to add any tags at all?
    Now I don’t claim to know anything about fashion, but based off the information you gave in this video, Margiela seems to me as just another fashion designer trying to make a name for themselves through shock value. Yes, his fashion looks nice and has a cool vibe but it oftentimes contradicts the very message it is trying to convey. Sorry if I’m completely off the mark, I’d love to hear if you had any answers to any of the previous questions.

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      FIRST OFF, HE USED "REAL" PEOPLE AS MODELS AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL. IT DID USE VARIOUS BODY TYPES. YOU NEED TO GO FURTHER INTO HIS ARCHIVES TO SEE THIS. I'VE BEEN A MARGIELA BUYER AND FOLLOWER SINCE 1994. ALSO, HE HAD NO EGO BECAUSE HIS NAME WAS NOT ON THE LABELS AS IT TENDS TO BE NOW ESPECIALLY WITH HIS LINE 6 (MM6). IT WAS BLANK. THEN HAD THE NUMBERS BUT STILL NO NAME. THAT WAS ORIGINAL. IT ALSO WAS HIS BUSINESS PARTNER, JENNY'S IDEA. CREDIT TO HIS CREW WAS IN USE OF "MAISON" MEANING "HOUSE". THAT WAS HIS WAY OF ACKNOWLEDGING THEM. WATCH THE TWO DOCUMENTARIES ON HIM TO LEARN MORE. YOU'RE MAKING WAY TOO MUCH OF IT. HE WAS NOT ABOUT SHOCK VALUE. HE WAS ABOUT ARTISTIC EXPRESSION AND WAS A FAN OF 'DADA'/'ABSTRACT' ART WHICH SHOWS IN HIS WORK.

  • @ifinallyfoundajobformoz
    @ifinallyfoundajobformoz 2 місяці тому +2

    I recently moved to Flanders a few hours from where Martin grew up. Flemish people are funny and snobish and it feels like trolling and joking while at the same time taking their effort of doing so very seriosly, is deeply embedded into the culture.

    • @genesis2187
      @genesis2187 2 місяці тому +1

      Martin is from Limburg, and people from Limburg are generally known for being warmer and more approachable.

  • @VuNguyen-fv5jl
    @VuNguyen-fv5jl 2 місяці тому +1

    Yo Karsten, could you change the background music? Its loop time feels too short and getting too distracting

  • @grigoriygreen4011
    @grigoriygreen4011 2 місяці тому +1

    9:15 Bro did not just do that to Margiela 😭

  • @moshymosh
    @moshymosh 2 місяці тому

    Name of the song at the end?

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      A SONG THAT CAN'T PRONOUNCE "Maison" CORRECTLY

  • @Frank-ro5bp
    @Frank-ro5bp 2 місяці тому +1

    For all intents and purposes. Knowwhatimsayin ;)

  • @adirtypunk
    @adirtypunk 2 місяці тому +1

    all i see are numbers

  • @marshallhenderson2382
    @marshallhenderson2382 2 місяці тому +3

    Dude... there a lot more to the male gaze than that. The concept also isn't from tik tok. Like i get the point ur trying to make and i agree but it coulda done w a lil more research lol

  • @arceustheo
    @arceustheo 2 місяці тому

    MAISON MAISON MAISON MAISON MAISON ‼️‼️‼️💯💯💯😂😂😂💀💀💀👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼🗿🗿🗿💩💩💩🫵🏿🫵🏿🫵🏿

    • @kkatpheiz
      @kkatpheiz 2 місяці тому

      No :)

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      you're saying "house" over and over. Maybe say "Margiela" over and over. Maison was not a first name at all. There are several brands that use the WORD "Maison" (meaning "house" in french). He's not the only one, so screaming "maison" over and over is NOT specific.

  • @rotisseriechickenlover-jb4cc
    @rotisseriechickenlover-jb4cc 2 місяці тому

    if he didnt want anything to be about him, why is the brand his name?

    • @karstenkroening
      @karstenkroening  2 місяці тому +1

      Not sure tbh. Maybe it was one guilty pleasure or act of ego, in the midst of many other more selfless actions.
      It could also be that during that time almost every “luxury” or “couture house” name was the head designers name, and they believed they would need to the same to be taken seriously. Really the only luxury fashion company that didn’t do this at the time was CDG. Almost every other luxury brand was eponymous.

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      his labels were blank and had no name

  • @kkatpheiz
    @kkatpheiz 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for vids, I hate your beanie tho.

  • @atlam928
    @atlam928 2 місяці тому +12

    75 view in 12 minutes , bro fell off

  • @thehylian6984
    @thehylian6984 2 місяці тому

    margiela loafers but i know he's a poser

    • @humanc8143
      @humanc8143 Місяць тому

      Margiela a poser? wow you know nothing about the brand. Educate.

  • @humanc8143
    @humanc8143 Місяць тому

    The song used mispronounce "Maison". It's NOT tough to learn how to pronounce "house" in French. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE "MASON"!!! JESUS!!!

  • @dustinchaney321
    @dustinchaney321 27 днів тому

    Does anyone else find this kid as insufferable as I do?? Jw becuz he thinks he sure has stumbled upon something revolutionary 😮😅😂🎉❤

  • @food2430
    @food2430 2 місяці тому +38

    Could you at least make it less obvious that you're reading from a script?

    • @tr3snt
      @tr3snt 2 місяці тому +96

      and be like every one else? is called being different #aura 👅💯

    • @thehylian6984
      @thehylian6984 2 місяці тому

      ???

    • @stabletools2004
      @stabletools2004 2 місяці тому +6

      why would he

    • @patrickpatel5527
      @patrickpatel5527 2 місяці тому

      @food2430 , your thinly veiled diss and belittling the guy making an effort clearly indicates you yourself have very low self esteem issues.

    • @kippie2414
      @kippie2414 2 місяці тому +6

      who cares lol