Steve Lukather about finding peace with God and why he got sober
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I got to meet Steve backstage in Atlanta after a show in 2018. I played guitar for a living for over 25 years, and finally got to meet my guitar hero and tell him the speech I've had in my head for over 30 years. Told him how much he influenced me - how he basically taught me to play guitar through his recordings. He almost teared up - hugged me - and thanked me for sharing that with him. He said he was so glad that I didn't get to meet him decades before, because he wouldn't have been sober and fully appreciated it. What a good dude. One of the best nights of my life. The next morning he tweeted back at me - I had that screenshot as my phone background for months! Long live Luke!
I felt so happy for you my man!
@Alan Carriaga Eddie VH, Steve and Vito Bratta (White Lion) definitely 3 of the best.
@Alan Carriaga Have ever seen Vito live, he is AMAZING.
Made my day reading this
Wow! Cool,
Peace with God through Jesus ... the only way.
He really should give his life to Jesus if he truly wants to find peace with God, it’s all about honoring Jesus and having a true deep relationship with God
What a great man. I’m a bassist but been a fan of his studio work and TOTO for years. Even got his Starlicks lesson VHS (who remember those?😌📼). To hear him admit his downfall and MAKING peace with it and MOVING ON to better himself takes great courage. I admire and respect him ever more for this. I hope to meet him in Philly one day. I’m sure the deaths of Jeff and Mike Porcaro played a part of this. They were like brothers and when you loose special guys like that, it hurts. And a failing marriage on top of that? Oh yeah, that will send any one spiraling, and the pressures of the business doesn’t help either. He was living the life but when shit happens, watch out! I’m just glad he’s still here. God bless you, Steve; and CONTINUE your success.😌🎶👍🏾
❤️
Peace with God comes only through Jesus Christ.
“I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father but by me” ~ Jesus (John 14:6)
Steve Richards: So true, brother.
Amen. And our need to forgive ourselves is neither the problem nor the solution. Why? Because even the closest follower of Christ has no clue of how great their sin offends the holiness of their Creator. So yes sir, your point is THE POINT. Peace with God comes only by trusting in Christ.
Luke is where so many are. Looking within ourselves will NOT redeem our lives. Luke and all of us went strong in the wrong way and money corrupts. 20 year drug habits can only be cleansed through Jesus Christ. I am speaking about my own life. I pray Luke meets The Risen Savior. He is so close!🙏
I knew it would be hollow dribble before even watching but like to be humble.... these celebrity will never give up what they sold their souls for, probably cant even if they wanted to.
Luke told me once, His Grandmom used to read the Bible from a rocker while he sat at her feet. That stuff never leaves ya.
Respect Steve getting sober isn't easy I'm 31 days today
God bless you! One 24 at a time!
Yeah, man. Wishing you all the best.
Still going? Best of luck to you and please take care
it is easy if you just dont start
@@Ottophil lol
Takes a big man to admit to and show regret for prior transgressions. I applaud Steve for this. And Steve...please know how great your influence is for guitarists everywhere, and of all levels (including this guy). IMHO, both you and EVH are the Bach and Mozart of our generation.
Luke and Eddie - Bach and Mozart of our generation - I couldn‘t find any better comparison.
@@haraldstein2987 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah
@@milanforever7014 My sentiments exactly. Hey Harald & MC... THERE IS NO BACH AND MOZART OF THIS GENERATION, YOU PHILISTINES!
sure it happens to everybody...Bach n Mozart not sure about it.....EVH yes...created his own sound amps n guitars.....Steve not quite but definitely amazing guitar playing
@@atta1798 not quite,but that’s why he was used thousands of times in the studio for so many other bands records
Luke is an amazing human being. Brutal honesty.. love it. Anyone would go nuts for awhile having a lifestyle like that. If you make it through it alive, you win!
Repenting is a big deal. No one is perfect and he was involved in a difficult place. Hendrix was famous for being fucjed up on stage and studio so he isn't alone , lots of rock stars went through it. Just watched a interview with Eric Clapton talking about it. I could have gone down that road of being a rock star, but God (his name is capitalized incidentally) didn't want that for me, He had other plans. Looks like fun on the outside, but ask anyone who went through it if they had it to do over again. Anyway I'm proud of Steve for having the courage to overcome. That's a big part of what were doing here. You can see the remorse written all over him. God bless you man!
Leslie L: Same here; I'm a drummer (who admires Jeff Porcaro), who "could have made it big", but doors closed -- thank God.
God bless you.
His honesty is great. My admiration to him just got stronger and I am a fan since 40 years. ❤
He is so likeable and real. He looks sad though. I hope he continues to find peace and self forgiveness.
now he found god.. he'll be alright ahhahahahaahahah
I see the sadness in his eyes.
Hes feeling the heat from what may be coming for him...as in underage girls or satanic orgies. But its all on tape so he wont be able to escape.
I’ve been fortunate to have had about 4 conversations with Steve at various venues like the Baked Potato. He’s always been polite and never given me the bum’s rush like “I’m too important to be talking to you”. He’s signed CDs for me and even taken them to other guys he was playing with like David Garfield to make sure I had something special signed by as many of the artists as possible. Even got to hold onto his guitar as he was busy taking care of something on stage during a club gig. Makes me proud to be the owner of a Music Man Luke 1 with the Floyd Rose trem. He’s just my favorite guitar player. I appreciate his kindness and his sense of humor. Glad to hear things are going well. Love your song Run to Me. Makes me think of my kids and close friends. Losing too many friends as we get older. Gotta give ‘em love while we’re still together. Regrets don’t do any good when they’re gone. Live strong my brother.
very jealous ... one of my bucket list dreams is seeing Luke and Landau at the Baked Potato on New Years...every time I check, they are already sold out.. Would love to play drums for them at the BP. I will be seeing Toto for the 5th time in Lincoln NE in a few weeks. Looking forward to it.
I have a music degree, and Steve Lukather has always been an inspiration and hero to me because he has shown how far you can go when you study and practice. You might be born with some aptitude (talent) for music, but you still have to work at it and develop what God has given you. I met him once at a music function (not a concert), I recognized him and approached him. He couldn't have been nicer. It was a thrill to speak with him for a minute. He was so kind.
YAY Steve! Yes!....Being sober is where it's at. I really didn't start living until I stopped drinking. I also finally started knowing how and how to play guitar when I sobered up. I had been playing professionally for 15 years by the time I got sober. It's amazing how much power I had sober. And focus. I also started piling myself into God and Jesus. Man....my life truly opened up. I am blessed. I have been playing guitar for over 50 years and I am still continuing to learn something new on the guitar almost every day. God Bless you Steve.
*"I also started piling myself into God and Jesus. Man....my life truly opened up."* Really?! Seems to me it closed up. Reaching for false comforts and self-deception to kill your pain isn't the way to go.
@@dannyboy8336 *"you are the one who has been deceived by the father of lies, satan!"*
Of course! After all, we should expect that anyone who believes there is a magical invisible father figure is ALSO going to believe there is a magical evil uncle. Makes sense, right? 😇
Let me know when you have something more than an emotional belief in an ancient story. THINKING is hard; BELIEVING is easy.
@@chikkipop You are showing total ignorance. You have no idea what I have gone through or done before or after I quit drinking. I don't really care whether you judge me or not. But you are a societal problem . Passing judgement on anyone is not good Your karma will catch up to one day. It's the way life goes. Bitter creates bitter
@@donaldroberts7055 *"You have no idea what I have gone through or done before or after I quit drinking."* Yes I do. You told me:
*"I also started piling myself into God and Jesus"*
And that's what I commented on. So, no "total ignorance," right?
*"But you are a societal problem . Passing judgement on anyone is not good"*
Your ignorance & superstition is the societal problem. Speaking up to challenge childish belief is a good thing to do.
There is *NOTHING* wrong with "passing judgment"! But you get one thing wrong, as so many of you do: it's the *IDEA* that I'm judging. It's a silly one.
*"Your karma will catch up to one day. It's the way life goes. Bitter creates bitter"*
That would be great if it were only true. People would be rewarded for the good they had done, and I'd benefit.
And how strange that you suggest I'm "bitter," as if you could possibly know that.
Donald good for you I’m happy that the Lord has richly blessed you and even though Dennis is a moron I still consider him a neighbor I must love, hee hee
Moving forward with a clear mind and loving heart.Those of us who care for you as a person, not just your talent, are so happy for you.
I've been praying for Steve. Asking God to save him.
Brutally frank testimony of a changed life and getting right with God.
There's a god to get right with?!
Hi I can’t look in somebody’s heart , but I was wondering if Steve really gave his life to Jesus , and if he hasn’t done it already I hope he does it soon
You guys have to realize that this man is Musical Genius and that people have demons
really?
Some of the most famous people I have ever met are the most humble. I can tell that Steve Lukather is one of those people. No matter what he goes through he never acts like he is better than anyone else. Just saw him in concert and so glad I was able to do that.Mad respect for such a great man that admits he is human like us regular people.
Some become humble, after a life of arrogance, followed by a crash
Only Jesus brother…he can forgive and save you
Toto got me thru alot of hard times. I only saw them once in Seattle in 80's. It was a magical night. I'm glad to see Steve. Thank you.
Steve is not only a Great GUITAR PLAYER and session guy but also a HUMAN BEING...everybody makes mistakes in their lives!
Praying that he truly finds out what it means to "get right with God". Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. It's not "whatever gets you through the night"...... it's Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone!
Listen to Pastor Patrick Boyle's "the bible way to heaven" on UA-cam. Peace
Amen mate.
Amen
Thanks, Steve. Congrats on sobriety.
He's a great guitar player. My Dad is a great auto mechanic. My dad wins.
Steve, I’m so happy for you finding peace in God and getting sober. I became sober 15 years ago and took up ultra running. I love my wife, career as an Elementary School Music Teacher and God as well.
Thank you for inspiring the next generation's musicians!
What god do you love? And how do you even know of it?
You have some very motivating things and people in your life, and God as well. God bless your sobriety and give all your heart to the ones you love.
@@notbraindead7298 What is a "god" and how do you know about it?
@@chikkipop He has a career as God, beyond amazing. Right?
Great insight from one of rock's greatest guitarists. By the way, since he's not talking about the ancient Greek or Egyptian gods, you should spell God with a capital.
Love Steve! Incredible musician, hilariously funny and genuine guy!
Good for you Steve! You are a good man despite your shortcomings. It is a hard thing to handle and most people never really understand that trap of fame and fortune. And you have always been an inspiration to so many good guitar players. Look at all the guitar players you helped become a more mature musician because of their admiration for you. Myself included. Thank you ,Steve!!
Luke seems like such an amazing guy. Dude has some incredible perspective, you can tell he's lived it.
I had the honor and pleasure of meeting Steve at his studio during a photo shoot for Rivera Amps. One of the most memorable days of my life. Fun guy, with insane talent and totally firm to earth. Gave me a hug when I left.
Steve Lukather IS MY HERO!!!!
Luke, Neal Schon, Billy Gibbons, and a few others all all we’ve got left in rock guitar greatness. I hope they live healthy and long lives.
All basically had similar lives
Don Felder also!!
Steve, thanks for your brutal honesty and how you're dealing with it. I too have and had my own demons with this kind of stuff but in a different way.
I was a caregiver for my mom who had dementia and I numbed myself to deal with the stress of it. She passed last year and I would do it all over again, but only without the additives.
Although, I wouldn't have minded the debauchery of the rock star lifestyle for a couple of years-lol
But seriously, continued success in your journey.
He’s such a good dude and an amazing influence on so many musicians.
Makes me want to attend a Toto concert just for the possibility of meeting him.
Now that’s from the heart. Bless you, Steve!
God Bless you Steve. Those hands, the magic in them fingers and the talent and family God has given you is more than enough to show how much God loves you. Be safe always.
Steve, you have had an amazing life. You have lived more than most men have ever wished for. Now as we grow older we realize that we are not bulletproof anymore and that we are going to die. Everyone that I know thinks that you were born with a guitar. You are amazing and will always be one of the greatest! Until YOU believe it.. You won't be happy. I hope you find happiness in the days you have left. You earned it, reflect on it and believe in yourself. What a great ride man!!! : )
You one of the great guitarist of our time . You have come a long way , get rid off all the f's when you talk and you will be more powerful . Love you brother !
God's son, Jesus The One, died for our sins to save us.
wonderful transparency about difficult personal matters; so helpful when people who have had it all for a long time speak of its cost, and how great that SL found strength and courage to turn away and change his patterns. bravo.
Wow. Humbling story from one of my heros. Congrats to you Steve. Stay the course.
God's Grace and guidance are truly shining in Steve's actions and behavior. Very few Musicians even TALK about God as Steve has here. Rudy Sarzo, and Carlos Santana do quite often.
1970borntorun: As do Mark Farner, Kerry Livgren, Ric Cua and others.
I'm glad he's one of the one's that's still with us. Many rock stars aren't. All the things the did in the fast lane and left behind caught up with them.
Steve is smart, honest and very talented.
True recovery is helping others get sober. Steve we need you, man !
Sez you
.....😂 when I was 20"..
I heard....
I'm a WALRUS
IM A NOWHERE man
I'm a loser ( thanks Beatles)
.
🙏NOW. ..I sing .
IM FORGIVEN because YOU
we're FORSAKEN..( amazing LOVE)
.( THANKS. JESUS)🌹⏳
Steve's way with words and honesty = gold.
Aw man, me too 2:46, secret drinking, lying about if, how much, when, what, where. That was me. Ten years sober for me now. Greatest thing I did. Admit it, face our past, clean it up, forgive then and us, and the healing happens. Slowly, but solidly.
I got sober in 1995 and went to meetings for 18 years. But then it was time to move on. I needed new ideas and new people and I have thrived.
Thank you for being so open Steve
It doesnt work by forgiving yourself for your sin..... forgiveness only matters if its coming from Jesus Christ.
If I could talk to Steve, I would let him know that true forgiveness only comes from Jesus Christ through repentance and faith. It doesn't come from forgiving yourself. I pray he will find that path and become a new creation in Christ.
Fame, money, the ability to smoke on guitar...means nothing. How many lost souls in rock and roll are there...were there? These people get glorified because they're talents appeal to our emotions. But, often, they're as fucked up...more fucked up than us average joes.
Not exactly at Peace with GOD….he regrets his past but laughs about it…that is not sorrow….definitely a talented musician.
I think finding peace with God is about being forgiven by him, not forgiving yourself. Imagine at the pearly gates, you come up to God with a pile of crimes to pay for and say I’m ok. I’ve forgiven myself.
Good introspection. That is what Jesus is all about. You can't forgive yourself until you admit you are a sinner as are all people to different degrees.
If you need help seeing yourself as a really bad person (aka sinner), I could give you my ex-wife's phone number.
I have never been a Toto fan, but the more
I see and learn about this man I just admire
him as a person He seems like a real great guy. Maybe the only celebrity I would ever
want to meet.
Same
Rockers are like riding on a roller coaster non stop...their life is not normal...once they reach the fame...the speed of the roller coaster goes faster...they have to do everything per say while riding on top of the roller coaster. They have to live ...sleep ...eat...poop...and have a family while the roller coaster is in motion...they cannot stop...the ride gets wilder and ruffer and as years go by they just cannot get out or jump off of it.
I love Luke. He puts it out there, with his own nuts on front street. What a musician though. He played on some of the most famous songs ever.
LOVE U STEVE & GOD BLESS U BRO.... thank U for BEING SO HONEST.....IT REALLY HELPED ME STEVE TO REALIZE WE ARE ALL HUMAN & MAKE MISTAKES BUT GOD CAN SAVE US FROM ANYTHING.....
I thought he was gonna say he found Christ. If he hasn't, I pray he does one day.
I wish Steve peace and happiness. He is remorseful for his wrongdoings, but he must also give himself credit for creating and giving joy through his music. Cut yourself a little slack Steve, the good you have done will live on long after your physical self.... while your transgressions will be buried, forgiven and forgotten.
Amazing guitarist.
God loves us even though we mess up! He knows we are going to make mistakes but still loves us and will forgive us. Steve has a very great talent unique to only him. We have all enjoyed listening to him play…oh my! Like he said being a rockstar has its dangers…the temptations can kill you or at least destroy relationships. I am so happy to hear he that he is sober and wants to heal himself and be there for friends and family. I too have experienced some of these things on a much smaller scale, but I have regrets, I have made mistakes and hurt those I love. Moving forward I strive to be the best man I can be. Love others, help people, appreciate what I have. Also I will always enjoy listening to Steve even more now that I know him a little better!
What a good dude. A mans, man in my opinion. It takes a big person to publicly admit their short comings. God knows we all have them, I sure do.
Luke, I have respect for you. Much recognizable!! A lot of willing women, a lot of booze, drugs, a lot of gigs and also lost a lot of people around me including really good friends. This hurts and is a loss for the rest of your life. I am also a guitarist but not famous (and maybe lucky). I thank God I didn't become addicted. I didn't have that pressure and stress around me like a celebrity has. That will play a part. And I'm only 51. Who knows what else I'll experience.
Addiction is really, really hard. It’s amazing how appealing drugs and alcohol are at first, and how much they can ruin your life. Self-medication is the name of the game at first.
I had a similar experience, minus being a famous rock star lol
Was sick and tired of being sick and tired and finally in sincerity asked God for help to quit..He did 15 years now. Glad to hear/see Steve’s story. God accepts a broken and contrite heart. God bless 🙏🏼
There's a "god" and it accepts things? How did you learn this, and can you share your evidence for such an amazing discovery?
@@chikkipop
Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
2 Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge.
3 They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them, 4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world..
Psalm 51: 16 You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings.
17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.
Psalm 10:4 In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him;
all his thoughts are, “There is no God.”
Proverbs 3:34: “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble” (ESV).
Jeremiah 29:13
You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
@@Terrobul Gave a great reply, but I don't see it here. In any case, quoting ancient men is extremely gullible. If you're an adult it's amazing you don't see that.
@@chikkipop The Bible is the most studied book in history. One doesn’t need to feel like they’re leaving their brain at the door, being gullible or taking it on blind faith. Textual criticism, archeology and many other fields of study provide a strong case for the reliability of the scriptures and the reality of God.
Forgive me if this is a little long but for clarity sake: The primary message of the Bible is the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is an offer of salvation because all have sinned in His sight and the wages of sin is death but not to those that humbly receive Gods offer of salvation by trusting in Him versus trusting in themselves to be made right in His sight. Trust in the goodness of Jesus not your own goodness. That’s the primary message which takes humility to accept.
God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.
Take care and God bless 🙏🏼🤙🏼
@@Terrobul *"One doesn’t need to feel like they’re leaving their brain at the door, being gullible or taking it on blind faith."*
Yes they do!
*"Textual criticism, archeology and many other fields of study provide a strong case for the reliability of the scriptures and the reality of God."*
No they don't!
*"The primary message of the Bible is the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is an offer of salvation because all have sinned in His sight and the wages of sin is death but not to those that humbly receive Gods offer of salvation"*
And that primary message is so utterly absurd that it's astounding that full grown adults actually believe it! Fortunately there isn't the slightest reason to think it's true. It is amazing what *indoctrination* can do to people, especially if they get you when you're young. Kids will believe anything adults tell them.
*"Trust in the goodness of Jesus not your own goodness. That’s the primary message which takes humility to accept."*
What utterly absurd cult talk that is! It doesn't take humility; it takes extreme gullibility.
*"God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."*
What god?
How would you know what a god opposed?
And how would you know that rejecting an *obvious* ancient myth was because someone was *"proud"?*
I know how you "know" these things; all three of them. It's because that is what you were *TAUGHT.* Now the question is, should we believe everything we're taught?
Sometimes alcohol abuse isn’t so much related to an addiction. In those cases, a person can decide one day just to stop, and never go back from that day without too much difficulty. Trace Adkins has that same story. God bless them all, whatever path it took to become sober.
It takes a real man to own up to the mistakes made and the courage to learn to forgive yourself, be proud of what you have accomplished since leaving that life behind. Your far from done, thank you for being part of the soundtrack of our lives and continuing your musical adventures
I wish I had a way to contact Luke, he and I share a lot of history, I'm a bass player of 50+ years and like him, if it weren't for God...we'd both be history and not in a good way! I was just watching a video of Toto back in 2015 at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam and posted a comment somewhere saying "could this particular bass player possibly look like he's having any less fun!!! Luke...you need to get ahold of me brother...love ya man!!!
VERY cool and honest. thank you.
When he says he lost his friends, did they abandon him, or die? I was not sure.
That was beautiful, thanks for sharing.
LOL JUST BROKE RINGOS ANONIMITY
For me one of the best guitar players in the world.
Had to stop at the kid in the candy store.
Break down, Hold the line, Talk....
These all ruled.
btw, I hope the shoulder's feeling better ;)
When your friends die a piece of you die with them. Having the honesty to admit your past mistakes is an honorable thing. Being a star is not a normal life style.
A fan since 1980. One thing for sure. You have to forgive yourself before you can truly get right. For some that is tremendously hard. God show your mercy to them..
Go to Jesus man. Be with God in the end.
He does not regret at all.....
Your language changes if you really have peace with God.
Steve found peace with God…not god.
God bless you, dear Luke! I am the one of the guitarists that your influence was enormous! Thank you for all of us, who tried follow your paths. I was at Toto concerts twice, both time in Belgrade, Serbia, and that was unforgettable! I'm happy that you stop drinking, and find dear Lord! Pray, love and respect!
that whole talking loud, that's me for sure, I get wound and loud, and I don't drink or do drugs (anymore) I did my share back in the day , cost me my 1st marriage, we move on , I love the forgiving yourself part, that's what God wants us to do so we can pursue the best us we can be from now on. Love it
Quit drinking 20 years ago , mad respect for Steve. Many people think that it's a failing of character, but alcohol is such an accepted and ingrained part of our society that it is amazing when people don't fall into alcoholism. Not trying to make an excuse for poor behavior, because ultimately it is up to us to change if it has become an issue, but it is very difficult to arrest an addiction, especially a legal and encouraged one.
God saves. I’ve seen it way too many times to deny it.
I'm very glad you have seen the light and making good decisions. The world has lost too much great talent to self destructive behavior. I hurts my soul when I see someone with all the talent that I so badly wish I had, and they are throwing it away along with their lives. God Bless and keep you!
Great insight - thanks guys 👍🏽
The most humble I've seen this man and could clearly hear his heart. Never knew which "Luke" I'd meet when I'd see him bc of his past struggles. Thankful he's at peace...he's a good man.
After listening to Steve and Toto for so long I’ve come to know him. Pretty hard on himself but living that kind of life will overtake you. Glad to see he has found peace. Live forever Steve!
omy! He's pretty much gone,sad stuff : (
You know people like me from the developing countries look towards the west and idolize a lot of people who are the best at what they do, not just in music but also from other walks of life.
I learned to be careful to also see them as human beings who do mistakes throughout their lives.
I also learned that it is the responsibility of the individual that they do not follow a path or do things that are morally wrong because a lot of people especially youngsters will get inspired by that kind of lifestyle.
I am very glad that Steve has realized his mistakes and has fixed his problems I pray for his peace of mind and guidance from God.
There is also a lesson to be learned for those whose "main" objective in life is to fulfill worldly desires, money fame, etc. that even at one point in his life a Superstar like Steve who has achieved so much in his life has realized that he shouldn't have done things that are morally wrong.
I been through exactly the same thing. Minus the fame, money, drugs, and women.
LOL!! Yeah, that's almost the same.😂
Him playing drunk is probably better than most of us playing sober. Yet he is sorry for disappointing us? What an inspiring testimony.
Glad he got his life together, super guitarist. But like the old saying goes, life is a long lesson in humility. Congratulations Steve, wish u the best.
I love you steve but my God is spelled with a capital. And he is the one true god
Oh boy. Spiffy spiffy pop pop
Mike Muncy: Indeed.
GOD!!!! not god.
Love you Luke.
So many people shudder at the thought of having the experience of the dark night of the soul. This comes to many people for different reasons. I'm so glad that Steve had his and came out the other side a better person... Or perhaps I should say the person he was meant to be!
John 3:16