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    0:00 The word about Ron DeSantis on the streets of Key West
    3:32 John’s awards show allergy
    6:41 The realness of "American Fiction"
    14:50 Ground News ad
    17:03 The narrow historical vision of "Rustin"
    24:09 The SATs are on their way back
    25:36 Afraid to flagrantly split infinitives and end sentences with prepositions? That’s something you should get over.
    28:42 What do we mean by “colorblindness” today?
    40:43 John: Maybe we have to be a little cold-hearted about colorblindness
    43:09 What does rigid colorblindness blind us to?
    48:53 What would Stanley Crouch do?
    53:21 Debating the presidential debates
    Glenn Loury (Brown University, Manhattan Institute) and John McWhorter (Columbia, New York Times, Lexicon Valley). Recorded March 16, 2024.

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  • @GlennLouryShow
    @GlennLouryShow  3 місяці тому +11

    Compare news coverage. Spot media bias. Avoid algorithms. Try Ground News today and get 40% off your subscription by going to ground.news/glennshow.

    • @thinkIndependent2024
      @thinkIndependent2024 3 місяці тому

      It's pretty clear to me you are The reincarnation of a confederate general

    • @DOPEDOGTOPDOG
      @DOPEDOGTOPDOG 3 місяці тому

      movies are jewish , therefore they can only be subversive , they celebrate only perversion , destructive and antisocial attitudes . Movies are carefully crafted to cause lifelong effects on the psyche , psychological pain and infict maximum destruction on society and its values : that's the only thing you need to know about movies , TV shows , even musicals ...
      Being an intellectual means you have a responsability : " noblesse oblige " , but you wouldn't know anything about that ....

  • @Mr22Fish
    @Mr22Fish 3 місяці тому +71

    I've been following these men since the Obama administration and I can honestly say it's like a new episode of a highly binge worthy Netflix series everytime they drop a new one. Love these brothas.

  • @samueljames9127
    @samueljames9127 3 місяці тому +52

    How much self-confidence should we aspire to?
    "Glenn eating cereal on camera during recording" levels of self confidence!
    Love the show, thank you for your work!

    • @marwar819
      @marwar819 3 місяці тому +1

      Self confidence? I think it's rude and disrespectful. I don't want to see him shoving food in his mouth or his tongue hanging out. I like listening to these guys but...

    • @kevinedwards9071
      @kevinedwards9071 3 місяці тому +3

      That's why he apologized at the end and said he was eating because he had to take medication

  • @femcon8577
    @femcon8577 3 місяці тому +13

    I’m listening to Woke Racism audiobook and can’t stop laughing with the beautiful humour of John McWhorter. Life is so much more manageable now that I have Glenn Loury and John to reassure my sanity. I wish I could invite you both to dinner.

  • @arthurfultz8066
    @arthurfultz8066 3 місяці тому +22

    John, “I have other things I would rather be doing” is a quote we should take to heart.

  • @matthewsgauge
    @matthewsgauge 3 місяці тому +31

    I am 74 and have lived 45 minutes from Watts in Los Angeles since 1962. Times started tough but got better and the 80's was life was better that today. We had lower social pressure and NO cell phones. We talked to each other.
    BB King at the Shrine Auditorium.

    • @dabronx340
      @dabronx340 3 місяці тому +5

      65 here. Gil Scott Heron at Carnegie Hall. Stay well man

    • @freddieoblivion6122
      @freddieoblivion6122 3 місяці тому +8

      I'm trying to start a new custom: abandoning our phones on Flag Day or Arbor Day or something... maybe even permanently, for those who have the huevos. Probably not women, they're hopelessly addicted. Wishful thinking, maybe - but I agree with you, even if I'm not as old. Life was better before the smartphone. Even a cellphone can be OK. It's having that screen in our pockets all the time that is destroying the fabric.

    • @dabronx340
      @dabronx340 3 місяці тому

      @@freddieoblivion6122 Freddy I am 65 w a UA-cam addiction. I love your idea but I need a 12 step program. “I am Dabronx and I am an addict” . Peace brother

    • @briane173
      @briane173 3 місяці тому +4

      @@freddieoblivion6122 I wouldn't have even minded the smartphone technology applied to useful tasks, but what killed it -- and killed the social construct -- is social media. A misnomer if I've ever heard one. It is ANTIsocial media. We've self-isolated and are now using our smartphones to talk AT people and not WITH them. One reason why I much prefer coming to Glenn's channel to hear him and John commiserate about many of these self-inflicted social maladies. Just the colloquy alone is the type of connection we all used to have with one another, without judgement, without sanctimony, and above all, without anonymity.

    • @robertryan1663
      @robertryan1663 3 місяці тому +1

      Was going to come out here but brianna173 said it's so much better than I would have.

  • @peterz22thomas5
    @peterz22thomas5 3 місяці тому +13

    Colorblindness is a word I grew up with in predominantly white schools in the 70s and 80s. We took it to mean to treat everyone of every race with kindness and respect. It's something I try to practice in my adult life. It's a beautiful term.

    • @desertrose0601
      @desertrose0601 3 місяці тому +5

      Same. I heard it a lot when I was in school in the 80s and 90s. It just generally meant to treat everyone the same regardless of color. People act like it’s confusing now but everyone knew what it meant 30 years ago. It’s not a new concept at all, nor does it seem particularly confusing.

    • @jaklinhyde
      @jaklinhyde 2 місяці тому

      In my opinion that’s just like the woke thing, 30-40 years ago it meant something different than today. I feel it’s been hijacked for ppl to use who just don’t like something

    • @elizabethmartinez4086
      @elizabethmartinez4086 2 місяці тому

      The woke pretend not to understand that it is merely a metaphor for valuing human dignity above race and pretend to think that people who use it are dishonestly or idiotically saying that they REALLY and literally don’t notice what a person’s race is, or worse, that “the colorblind” need to mentally reframe POCs as white.

    • @SomeYouTubeTraveler
      @SomeYouTubeTraveler 2 місяці тому

      Colorblindness got abandoned because it wasn't a "quick enough" heal. It was mocked as a "band-aid solution" to racism.
      But the thing about band-aids, is... while it's true that they themselves don't do the healing, they _do_ smooth over the wound and prevent it from getting infected, allowing nature the time and safety needed to heal the injury.
      Defeating racism with colorblindness is a slow burn. It's getting the truthful thought into kids heads that "black and white are not so different," and trusting them to treat them the same 20 years down the road when they are the ones making the new society.
      As it is, people hating on colorblindness are like kids who get a band-aid put on, say, "It still hurts, so this is useless!" and tear it off... then get massively infected and blame their parents for giving them the useless bandaid.

  • @robertjordansmith
    @robertjordansmith 3 місяці тому +23

    I usually only listen to the Glenn Show in an audio form. Glenn casually eating cereal during this conversation has convinced me to watch the video. Thank you

    • @alexs6250
      @alexs6250 3 місяці тому +2

      You come for the discussion. You stay for the cereal.

    • @stp479
      @stp479 3 місяці тому +1

      LOL!

  • @charlesrowland-clark3460
    @charlesrowland-clark3460 3 місяці тому +15

    Glenn, you are my leader. The words you come out with are (almost) always on point and inspire me always. But the cereal eating has just elevated you to a new level. Love from London

  • @Knowallwithmyphone
    @Knowallwithmyphone 3 місяці тому +10

    These two intellectual giants never disappoint!!! Two of the most intelligent and especially emotionally intelligent people in the public eye today! I love how they disagree with the utmost respect. It’s okay to talk to someone you disagree with. The other side isn’t necessarily evil and talking about disagreements is the best way to build bridges. These 2 are the best

  • @jdankerdake
    @jdankerdake 3 місяці тому +11

    I’m happy to report that I’ve found John’s books on linguistics in the language section of my local library.

  • @michaelmyers9080
    @michaelmyers9080 3 місяці тому +13

    Lurking Orthodox priest and frequent listener thanks John for pronouncing words correctly that I've mispronounced for, oh, fifty years. You guys are always enjoyable and thoughtful!

    • @barrybush7884
      @barrybush7884 3 місяці тому

      I always tell my wife I wish I had John's voice, vocabulary, and cadence.

  • @christopherd6399
    @christopherd6399 3 місяці тому +15

    Listening to these gentlemen, especially Glenn, is a salve to my pysche.

  • @user-cm6zx8vl8x
    @user-cm6zx8vl8x 3 місяці тому +12

    You can't fight discrimination by discriminating against another race

  • @justenchambers4127
    @justenchambers4127 3 місяці тому +15

    I’m a big cereal guy myself Glenn. Much respect.

  • @valiskuk
    @valiskuk 3 місяці тому +11

    Always happy to see these two in discussion

  • @bencopeland3560
    @bencopeland3560 3 місяці тому +5

    In response to John’s question, I was at Boston University in the 90’s and wokeism (we didn’t call it that) was absolutely already a thing. So much so that I didn’t realize it wasn’t everywhere until it went national around 2012 and people were acting as though it was something new.

  • @Readabookfoofoo
    @Readabookfoofoo 3 місяці тому +4

    These are two of my favorite people. I truly hope I get to meet them one day and chop up facts with the best.

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 3 місяці тому +10

    When discussions include Black or African-American, they aren't talking about race or skin color. They are talking about Dysfunctional Black Urban Culture. Rich and middle-class blacks have more in common with their white neighbors than they do with their poor urban cousins. Politicians who wish to appear woke stress race as part of their DEI inclusion platform. Race is a lever, not a sincerely held belief.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      Race uis a fact, not a belief. It's there even if you don't believe in it.

    • @glennmitchell9107
      @glennmitchell9107 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gandydancer9710 Scientists state that race doesn't exist as a biological fact. It is a cultural phenomenon. Children are taught to view skin color as having meaning. Teach your children well, or not.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      @@glennmitchell9107 Utter nonsense. Loury and McWhorter are blacks and I am not and the difference IS a "biological fact". I can tell that from a photograph without knowing anything about their "culture". Or 21 And You could do it from a throat swab, again with no "cultural" information..

  • @leftybelle7022
    @leftybelle7022 3 місяці тому +5

    "Something you're supposed to be interested in is the dresses", that killed me John. 😂😂😂

  • @cfmcelderry
    @cfmcelderry 3 місяці тому +5

    I love the increase in editing quality!!❤❤

  • @JohnSmith-tk7nt
    @JohnSmith-tk7nt 2 місяці тому +1

    Roland Fryer was on the PBD Podcast yesterday and when asked his greatest influences in the world of economics he named my man Glenn first!

  • @barbaraschumacher3861
    @barbaraschumacher3861 3 місяці тому +7

    I am a Democrat who plans to vote for Biden, and I agree with Glenn that the candidates should debate each other. Not expecting them to do so would set a bad precedent. I can't imagine an election without debates.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому +2

      I never watch debates. Politicians speaking makes my gorge rise. But Biden running away from one would be a very bad look.

    • @emergencyCALL911
      @emergencyCALL911 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@gandydancer9710 Yet Trump got a pass for running away from the entirety of the Republican debates. I find the inconsistency of his supporters frustrating. If Biden had not shown up for an ongoing debate, they'd have had a field day. In 2020 my nickname for Trump was Donny Narco. In 2023-24 I gave him a new one: Donny No-Show.

    • @chrischreative2245
      @chrischreative2245 3 місяці тому +2

      @@emergencyCALL911Trump said he’ll debate Biden anytime, anywhere. The news media kept writing for Biden to stay in the basement and not debate trump in 2020 cause he didn’t need to….

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      @@emergencyCALL911 No one gives a damn what YOUR "nickname" for Trump is. You're a Trump hater, so what? Anyway, you're also full of BS. Biden was AWARDED the Dim nomination in 2020 in lieu of a contest and isn't debating RFK Jr or anyone else this time around. Why should he? He's already got the Dim's nomination.
      Similarly, there was no reason for Trump to debate the midgets, he already had the nomination. But things which are different are not the same. Biden DOESN'T have a win in 2024 election locked in. Quite the opposite. If HE runs from debating Trump we all will know why.

    • @emergencyCALL911
      @emergencyCALL911 3 місяці тому

      @@chrischreative2245 Which is completely irrelevant to the fact that Trump bitched out of the primary debates. I wasn't defending Biden, I was criticising Trump and the double-standard of those who deride Biden for "hiding in his basement" while giving Trump a free pass for hiding out at rallies surrounded by yes-men while all the other candidates subjected themselves to the cross-examination of a debate.

  • @miketemple7686
    @miketemple7686 3 місяці тому +4

    That one hurt @John McWorter! “Was it like that back in the 80s”? I grew up in Texas in the 80s. No, it was nothing like it is today. So much ground work had been done in the late 60s to mid 70s. By the time 80s rolled around we were unified more than ever. It wasn’t perfect, but it was damn close.

  • @pobishop235
    @pobishop235 3 місяці тому +6

    Glenn, I understand that the argument for color blindness is based on treating each of us as an individual with agency and personal responsibility. Focusing on disparities between groups rejects this framing and treats people as de-personalized members of their group and assumes that their situation is solely (or mainly) the result of their group membership (and societal discrimination for or against that group). Group framing allows Michelle Obama to claim that she suffers from racism and that poor, uneducated, unemployed white people benefit from white privilege. I think we have to choose our framing and stick with it. It's impossible to fashion a coherent social policy if you flip-flop between respecting the individual and treating them as a mere representative of a group, depending on the result you want in a particular situation.

  • @mathieuguillet4036
    @mathieuguillet4036 3 місяці тому +2

    Always great, gentlemen. Thank you.

  • @kimberleywarren8679
    @kimberleywarren8679 3 місяці тому +5

    Can you discuss how the open border impacts the black political community, please? I would love to hear your thoughts.

  • @BubbaStaines
    @BubbaStaines 3 місяці тому +3

    So many gems here. I appreciate you guys.

  • @AP-vg3nr
    @AP-vg3nr 3 місяці тому +3

    That preposition rule is an absurdity up with which I will not put! 😂

  • @sdrc92126
    @sdrc92126 3 місяці тому +5

    Is it racist to be sick of race?

  • @swcordovaf
    @swcordovaf 2 місяці тому

    The quality of the sounds of John’s voice is usually great. The quality of his thoughts and arguments are at the highest level.

  • @tthompson9244
    @tthompson9244 3 місяці тому +1

    Always a pleasure listening to these guys.

  • @terryriffe4792
    @terryriffe4792 3 місяці тому +4

    I never eat cereal for breakfast , I only eat it as snack while watching TV lol

  • @styxx5912
    @styxx5912 3 місяці тому +12

    Instead of trying to make America color blind we need to individualize America and end all the stereotyping.

    • @bonniespeck
      @bonniespeck 3 місяці тому

      Trying to make America colorblind is like trying to make people not see things. God gave us eyes. But I pray people look beyond what they see and see the character of person. Character trumps looks any day.

  • @teacherrussell5206
    @teacherrussell5206 3 місяці тому +6

    "Where's the restroom at?"
    "Don't you know that you should never end a sentence in a preposition?"
    "Where's the restroom at, a!#hole?"

  • @jessf153
    @jessf153 3 місяці тому +1

    I have pre-ordered Glenn’s book today! 😊

  • @ronlittman1896
    @ronlittman1896 Місяць тому

    Thanks for discussing American Fiction. Loved it. I was also thinking of John McWhorter throughout the film, as though it's about him.

  • @stevehanson3158
    @stevehanson3158 3 місяці тому +2

    I love listening to these gentlemen. The world would be so much better off if more people would be open minded. The reason race is as much of an issue as it is today is because government uses it to maintain power. Government teaches hate in schools. I believe that most people would love to see all people successfull.

  • @silentmentor5888
    @silentmentor5888 3 місяці тому +4

    Ok, before they get serious, love the flamingo shirt!!

  • @wesleywest4942
    @wesleywest4942 3 місяці тому +1

    John needs to build a steampunk set of pipes and gauges in his home office background. Looks cool.

  • @MrValentineReacts
    @MrValentineReacts Місяць тому

    Barbie, American Fiction , Rustin. Cinematic discourse? Like it. Love it. Want some more of it

  • @chetp8423
    @chetp8423 3 місяці тому +1

    I was hoping to hear their thoughts on Coleman’s debate with the journalist who criticized him so vociferously over his George Floyd piece.

  • @vkevpe
    @vkevpe 3 місяці тому +5

    Regarding color blindness, as a principle of law it’s good. Glenn asks whether we should ignore race when we see disparities in prisons or in wealth or achievement. Then we must ask: is race the issue, or might it have less to do with race, and more to do with inner city culture or schools who graduate students that can’t read adequately. Are we targeting the disadvantage or inequity, or are we targeting skin color and lineage? I’m all for marshaling extra resources for inner cities because of poverty and education issues. Is that really race? I’m not for targeting resources for the Obama children, or my own children. What is landing a disproportionate number of blacks in prison? Is it race or is it criminal behavior? Is it related to our failing to educate inner city students? Is there an iniquitous treatment due to race? A double standard? Maybe white kids smoke weed and get a warning and blacks go to jail. If that were the case, and I don’t think it is today, then legalize weed or require the same treatment of the crime. If the incarcerated are rapists, murderers, or serial burglars who refuse to change, it doesn’t matter their race. They need to pay for their crime and society needs protection from them. I get racial discrimination. It has a history that’s real and their are biases and stereotypes that are almost natural to people, unfortunately, but is race the problem, or is it an inability to read, or an inner city culture where academic achievement isn’t cool? Let’s solve the problem. Ideology gets in the way of solving them.

    • @Readabookfoofoo
      @Readabookfoofoo 3 місяці тому

      Preach

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      "... we must ask: is race the issue, or might it have less to do with race, and more to do with inner city culture or schools who graduate students that can’t read adequately."
      Or race might be the issue. Fact: Middle class blacks who don't live in the inner city culture or go to schools who graduate students that can’t read adequately still have worse outcomes. Simply rejecting out of hand the idea that it might be race doesn't have a sound basis.

  • @darbyohara
    @darbyohara 3 місяці тому +2

    “Barbie was great” 🤨… making me question Glenn’s judgment

  • @deathbysloth
    @deathbysloth 3 місяці тому +6

    The instant a pet phrase of the Left goes mainstream enough to garner sufficient criticism of its merits, it always mysteriously becomes passé or offensive to use, while another new term for the same purpose bubbles up from the depths of academe and tumblr.

    • @gagamba9198
      @gagamba9198 3 місяці тому +2

      The endless game of whack a mole.

  • @pobishop235
    @pobishop235 3 місяці тому +2

    John, lots of Americans are worried that Biden isn't capable of engaging in a debate as well.

  • @desertrose0601
    @desertrose0601 3 місяці тому +2

    No it wasn’t like this in the 80’s. I miss the 80’s every day. Life was very copasetic back then in general. Far less race bickering. It’s terrible today. I miss the days when everyone generally got along with each other.

  • @annearriaga8614
    @annearriaga8614 3 місяці тому

    The Oscar’s allow me to catch up on all celebs aging in relation to me! I love the glamour!

  • @Doing_Time
    @Doing_Time 3 місяці тому +3

    Guide to understanding/predicting the Supreme Court:
    Alito -- An intelligent Constitutionalist of a patriotic bent
    Brown-Jackson -- A dishonest justice of exactly average intellect
    Coney-Barrett -- An elitist/institutionalist opposed to We the People
    Gorsuch -- An intelligent Constitutionalist of a We the People bent
    Kagan -- An intelligent progressive Machiavellian
    Kavanaugh -- A traditionalist/intitutionalist opposed to We the People
    Roberts -- An intelligent institutionalist of Machiavellian bent
    Sotomayor -- An honest maternalist suffering intellectual deficits
    Thomas -- An intellectual giant of compassionate bent

  • @JosephHization
    @JosephHization 3 місяці тому

    As a soldier with a top secret clarence. I know when to speak. I had to say something about the fourteenth. A blackman being 35ths hit meafter listen to your show and I...Let my emotions get in the way?!

  • @AZWings
    @AZWings 3 місяці тому +2

    Race should be A factor in policy decisions, not THE factor in deciding.

    • @knifehandz
      @knifehandz 3 місяці тому

      Besides race based comparisons what purpose would or should it serve as A factor?
      How does it compare to all other factors?

    • @AZWings
      @AZWings 3 місяці тому

      @@knifehandz As they discuss during the show, it's worth considering potential discrimination as a potential explanation for whatever is being assessed. If race is consistently showing up associated with some phenomenon it should definitely be considered. But, it should not be considered to the exclusion of socio-cultural and/or economic factors.

  • @deanmartin2904
    @deanmartin2904 3 місяці тому +1

    Read an English textbook with the sentence "a preposition is not good to end a sentence with"

  • @neftysturd
    @neftysturd 2 місяці тому

    John, you never sounded better!!!

  • @anynimus1617
    @anynimus1617 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm sitting here eating my overnight oats and what do I Glenn eating? Oats! Love it! I must say though that I respect anyone who will sit in front of a camera and eat oats without dribbling down their shirt, because I am clumsy as hell.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 3 місяці тому

      Slurping works

  • @user-cz5lj2vx1f
    @user-cz5lj2vx1f 3 місяці тому

    Regarding the movie "RUSTIN", there's a wonderful DOCUMENTARY film "Brother Outsider" (was shown on PBS television) that really shows Bayard Rustin in his complexity--bth BEFORE working with MLK Jr. and AFTERWARDS. Worth watching.

  • @VelkePivo
    @VelkePivo 3 місяці тому +2

    Has to eat during the podcast. Couldn’t wait an hour

    • @michaelweber5702
      @michaelweber5702 3 місяці тому

      Yes eating on camera is a bad look ...

    • @kevinedwards9071
      @kevinedwards9071 3 місяці тому

      Glenn apologized at the end for eating during the show, saying that he needed to eat something because he took medication.

  • @mbrown7969
    @mbrown7969 2 місяці тому

    Having been in high school in the mid eighties, I recognized at that time the desire of my classmates to go along with the crowd, to fit in, not make waves, go along with predominant thought, fashion, music, etc. And now they have raised a generation of unthinking conformists just like themselves, only worse!!!

  • @bonniespeck
    @bonniespeck 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ll buy your book John when it comes out on Audible. I hope you read it.

  • @ninadaly7639
    @ninadaly7639 3 місяці тому +2

    What bothers me is this idea by some groups that everyone ELSE is supposed to ensure those groups are “GIVEN” diversity, equity, and inclusion, that they have no responsibility to do anything to help themselves obtain it. Unfortunately, that’s just not true.

    • @ashlibabbittcroakedit9108
      @ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 3 місяці тому

      You make no sense. How are you givan diversity, equity and inclusion

    • @ninadaly7639
      @ninadaly7639 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 Well that’s my point. How DO you GIVE someone those things? But that seems to be the expectation. What I hear is 1) How this “racist” country of ours is the sole cause of this inequity and 2) that everyone else has to fix it. What I DON’T hear is what people on the short end of the equity stick can do to improve this, how to help people make better choices for themselves, and what needs to be changed within the community to help younger generations see and take advantage of opportunities in front of them. Isn’t THAT the best way to achieve DEI?

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      @@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 You don't think all the DEI officers aren't giving anything to anyone?

    • @ninadaly7639
      @ninadaly7639 3 місяці тому

      @@gandydancer9710 Of course. They are giving themselves money, attention, and relevance. That’s about the it.

  • @Earthmuffin78
    @Earthmuffin78 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the show btw 😂 always welcome them together. I could literally watch tou both talking about pain drying lol

  • @jennybravo7019
    @jennybravo7019 3 місяці тому

    I actually thought about them while watching American Fiction 😅. I was sure they would like it

  • @JosephHization
    @JosephHization 3 місяці тому

    Here is the hardline. Sometimes talk turns the next page because the opponent is losing the battle and war is the only way out. Thats how lies get out.

  • @BitcoinMeister
    @BitcoinMeister 3 місяці тому

    Debates reveal a level of spontaneity and competence that scripted interactions do not. One should be able to compare and contrast the candidates skills in a side by side live environment. Trump and Biden are not the only candidates running. If you are against the "2 party system" then you should be all for the debates where RFK Jr. will get a chance to shine.

  • @MattHunX
    @MattHunX 3 місяці тому

    39:25 That just reminds of what I read about how they practically put the separation of church and state into law in 3000 BC, but in practice, in the way cultures developed and what become important to the average person and to the people/priesthood in power, separation of church and state NEVER really worked, SINCE, because the average person's beliefs and moral were obviously shaped by the religion of the land, and the law of the land came from people in power who could use religion as part of that power, whether they were actually devout themselves or not.

  • @jdankerdake
    @jdankerdake 3 місяці тому +3

    Can “race neutral” be an appropriate synonym for what most people mean by “colorblindness”?

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      Watch the video again. These two distinguish the two terms, being against the former and in favor of the latter, iirc.

    • @jdankerdake
      @jdankerdake 3 місяці тому

      @@gandydancer9710 I don’t need to watch the video again. I posited the question before Glenn made the distinction.

  • @carollee9941
    @carollee9941 3 місяці тому

    John love your flamingo shirt. Is that you idea of bohemian style?

  • @jefferygardner22
    @jefferygardner22 3 місяці тому

    Perhaps the issue with the racism industry today is that they identify disparities in an effort to highlight race and racial animus that may no longer persist rather than seeking to address the current situation and actual issues within communities which contribute to the perseverance of disparities.

  • @ronlittman1896
    @ronlittman1896 Місяць тому

    Churchill said about ending a sentence with a preposition that it is the kind of grammatical something or other "up with which he will not put"

  • @neoepicurean3772
    @neoepicurean3772 3 місяці тому +2

    I think the Presidential debates are meant to show how a candidate -and their arguments- hold up under pressure. Both Trump and Biden are known quantities in many regards. But, even so, do we really think Joe is going to win through in a serious discussion with any major world leader? At least Trump could do his usual routine and still walk away with something like what he wanted.. It'll be more interesting for the VPs to debate, as a vote for Joe could well end up being a vote for his VP to be commander in chief. I've not seen much of Kamala's understanding of foreign policy, and what I have seen is pretty awful (or just her presentation) so I look forward to see her go head to head. That has value.

  • @gagamba9198
    @gagamba9198 3 місяці тому

    Re split infinitives and ending a sentence with a preposition, I agree. However, I think there is a good argument for a prescriptivist approach for the definition of words. I look at these as the building blocks of communication. When we can't agree even on the meaning of words and spend so much time to 'define your terms', when the definition expands so much to create only confusion, and, worse, when a word has two opposite meanings (Janus words such as nonplussed), this doesn't serve the people. Laws, vital instructions, procedures, etc are written with these, so the clarity that comes from a standard only aids us. We're not being oppressed by a standard. I have no opposition to neologisms; I appreciate them. Rather than try to change the meaning of existing words, be creative by coining new ones.

  • @oraz.
    @oraz. 3 місяці тому +1

    Oscars seemed like a last gasp to me. The most popular movies where girlboss directors coding their own patronizing idea of men into their films as if it's subversive when that is the dominant thing anyway. Other movies like the one with Paul Giammati had such over the top conspicuous intersectional supporting roles it seeemed absurd. The movie John's talking about might be good because of Jeffrey Wright.

  • @nicholasaustin2717
    @nicholasaustin2717 3 місяці тому

    “My friends are here essentially for accidental reasons that go back a long long time.”
    This is the story of most Americans who aren’t a multigenerational New Englander. Could be slavery, grandpa returned from Korea and was discharged in a place with warm winters, the wife got TB on day 1 of the Oregon Trail and you live in St. Louis in 2024.
    Chickens are rampant in places with hurricanes. Hurricanes set chickens free.

  • @imnotanalien7839
    @imnotanalien7839 3 місяці тому +4

    I wonder if when talking about systematic anything…the word systematic is used in a way to fuse private and public sector into one collective system. Coming at it from a Marxist perspective, the idea is to eliminate private assets, private businesses, etc.. The fact that the government can force DEI quotas on private ownership of companies, is a very secretive way to put comrades, or in South Africa they call it cadre deployment, into all public and private institutions. It’s a way of taking over all sector’s… and eliminates private businesses and then you are left with the Soviet Union. Once the government is in the private sector you are left with a whole lot of ESCOM’s and flickering lights, and no economy. Twitter, once Musk took over and fired 80% of the employees that added no value to the company but were also being paid by government entities is an example of a government run company. It’s a very sneaky way for Marxist to infiltrate both private and public sector. Systematic Marxism.

    • @emergencyCALL911
      @emergencyCALL911 3 місяці тому +1

      Mmm hmm. Now if you can just find a way to blame China, you'll score even more points with the tribe.

  • @michaelkulman7095
    @michaelkulman7095 3 місяці тому +1

    It was a cereal experience.

  • @danbravoh2165
    @danbravoh2165 3 місяці тому +3

    Color Blindness is no differnet then common sense or treat others as you want to be treated

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 3 місяці тому

      How does the utopic society in Star Trek, which was long held up as the ideal, treat race?

    • @user-bg7km4ij7f
      @user-bg7km4ij7f 3 місяці тому

      @@sdrc92126IDK… How does fantasy live up to reality?
      Star Trek was a TV show! 🤣🤣

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 3 місяці тому

      @@user-bg7km4ij7f I'm not talking about fantasy, I'm talking about what a couple of generations were taught.
      At a press conference about Star Trek: The Next Generation, a reporter asked Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry about casting Patrick Stewart, commenting that "Surely by the 24th century, they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness." Gene Roddenberry had the perfect response.
      "No, by the 24th century, no one will care."

  • @BostonsRaddest
    @BostonsRaddest 3 місяці тому +2

  • @user-bs1qk2ku7b
    @user-bs1qk2ku7b 3 місяці тому

    Glenn! Check out Bill Maher's monologue last night!

  • @chrisocony
    @chrisocony 3 місяці тому

    One of those 3-letter named people, who you referenced, NHJ just had a huge piece in the NY Times Magazine, "The Coloblind Trap." I couldn't bring myself to read it. Maybe you felt the same way as I am surprised you didn't mention it.

  • @brentwalling3948
    @brentwalling3948 3 місяці тому

    Dr. McWhorter: while down there try to get to Dry Tortugas National Park. Accessible only by boat (or seaplane)

  • @carollee9941
    @carollee9941 3 місяці тому +1

    John I hope you don't find a bunch of squatters living in your home when you return back to NY it's terrible here in the city. Plus a police officer killed today with just 3 years on the job. The lady that came to her deceased mothers apartment only to be murdered by squatters.

  • @SallyO716
    @SallyO716 3 місяці тому

    I always assumed that a preposition must have an object; therefore, when a sentence ends with a preposition, it automatically becomes an adverb. I defer to Prof. McWhorter.

  • @Traderbear
    @Traderbear 3 місяці тому +1

    That Bach scene from Tar infuriated me. To study music without knowing Bach is ridiculous

    • @flutebasket4294
      @flutebasket4294 3 місяці тому

      Modernity is filled to the brim with people whose main personality trait is anti-White racism

    • @lancewalker2595
      @lancewalker2595 3 місяці тому

      Almost like studying Philosophy without reading Plato... which, now that I think about it, universities have definitely "de-centered" that dead-old-white-man called "Plato".

  • @AnneWartenberg2-rp6tv
    @AnneWartenberg2-rp6tv 3 місяці тому

    Great comments about what Jewish students are expected to endure. That is, to the extent there are Jewish students on campus. There are reports circulating in the Jewish community that elite universities have tacitly determined to keep Jewish student percentages on campus to their percentage representation in the US population. And are therefore rejecting Jewish applicants in large numbers totally divorced from regular admissions standards. Sounds just like the 1930s, when my father, who did not have an obviously Jewish name, managed to gain admission to Harvard despite the anti-Jewish quotas because they presumed him to be a random applicant from a mid-western state with a notable lack of Jews, likely of 19th Century German immigrant background.

  • @Relayer56
    @Relayer56 3 місяці тому +1

    As always, a great conversation. I guess I'm the stick in the mud who sees nothing wrong with the rule of not ending sentences in a preposition.

  • @user-qr3iv7ug2n
    @user-qr3iv7ug2n 2 місяці тому +1

    I believe you are mischaracterizing what Justice Jackson said. It was not that she was pointing out that Society is not colorblind--she was pointing out that the Constitution--specifically the 14th Amendment itself--is not colorblind. As you say, Justice Thomas claims that the Constitution IS colorblind. That is the crucial difference. So it is not the case, as you suggest, that they are talking about different things.

  • @ninadaly7639
    @ninadaly7639 3 місяці тому +1

    JOHN! Are you suggesting Bradley Cooper isn’t “Deep”?? Did you see him transform on stage into John Merrick???? LOLOL. But seriously, I heard an interview with Bradley who explained the film isn’t about Bernstein’s music as much as it’s about Bernstein’s feelings about his music……….? More like Bradley’s “feelings”.

  • @dnifty1
    @dnifty1 3 місяці тому

    Education is not colorblind as anybody who goes to any mostly black school or school district can see that inequity in funding, quality and support. And these are the exact same situations that were found in the 1960s, 1950s and before that. But somehow people love to ignore that and focus on SATs, college admissions, "affirmative action" and all other things that are irrelevant to the problem in order to pretend it doesn't exist.

  • @alexs6250
    @alexs6250 3 місяці тому

    Key West explains the flamingo shirt

  • @stevenhanson6057
    @stevenhanson6057 3 місяці тому

    Liberal quote of the Century, “some of my best friends are Black!”

  • @davidlamb7524
    @davidlamb7524 3 місяці тому +1

    28:41 "Boldly to go" sounds ok.

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 3 місяці тому +2

    Presidential debates as they have been are useless. I find most formal debates to be useless as mechanisms for discovering new information. They are an academic fetish, a battle of wit as often as a battle of wits. As a long serving staff NCO, I much prefer the military's Commander's Brief. Argue your position with a three bullet PowerPoint slide and be prepared to answer every challenge with details.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, THAT would work for Biden. Or Trump.

    • @glennmitchell9107
      @glennmitchell9107 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gandydancer9710 I don't care if it works for Biden, Trump, or any other candidate. Presidential debates are supposed to be tool for the voter.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      @@glennmitchell9107 Supposed by whom?

    • @glennmitchell9107
      @glennmitchell9107 3 місяці тому

      @@gandydancer9710 Me

  • @bonniespeck
    @bonniespeck 3 місяці тому +1

    D.E.I. Didn’t Earn It. If two people are equally qualified, then choose the one most likely to succeed based on character.

    • @emergencyCALL911
      @emergencyCALL911 3 місяці тому

      There's a lot in life that people have but didn't earn, including a significant portion of what goes into their skills and qualifications for a job, but generally I agree.

  • @user-qx2xt5sm4e
    @user-qx2xt5sm4e 3 місяці тому

    When looking a black poverty and institutional racism there are two dominant thoughts. 1. Since black poverty is currently twice that of white poverty, there is significant institutional racism. 2. Adding in the temporal properties; black poverty has consistently dropped since 1940 (80%), dropping by 50% in the last generation to 17%, so we have shedded the majority of institutional racism and it is slowly percolating throughout the economic system. The trend is your friend.............

  • @michaelweber5702
    @michaelweber5702 3 місяці тому

    Rustin was a fine man ... I haven't seen the movie yet and I want to see it ...

  • @kadourimdou43
    @kadourimdou43 3 місяці тому

    I would like to hear what you two think of The American Society of Magical ……. I can’t and don’t want to write the last word.
    It sounds absurd to the highest order.

  • @JosephHization
    @JosephHization 3 місяці тому

    So, if I change the battlefield?! With the same tactics? To here in america...Things change...

  • @jtavegia5845
    @jtavegia5845 3 місяці тому

    Since I always played sports and music where it was always merit and the best played. It hasn't been until that last 10 years that race was brought to the forefront it seems to me. Not sure why. It is all just sad to me, but at nearly 77 it is what it is. the movie that has moved me the most is on Netflix: All The Light You Cannot See is amazing. to me the question is; Is the world a better place today than it was in the '60's through the '90's? If not then this is not progress.

  • @JosephHization
    @JosephHization 3 місяці тому

    In war...There are no rules.

  • @JosephHization
    @JosephHization 3 місяці тому

    It is and somebody is feeling the heat. Their old way of doing things is small potatoes?!

  • @larreye8451
    @larreye8451 3 місяці тому

    John nails it with his points regarding the American Fiction movie, there's a total lack of depth in the characters in most of the movies the last decade(s). Simple, flat and predictable most often.