@technoita the malicious bots are gone rn and idle bots aren't that economical so they really don't make up much of the player base. Tf2 is just genuinely kicking along with its fan base
Honestly I think it's pretty reasonable that they add a Belgium and Austria focus tree alongside the German rework, and then whenever they do the Japanese rework they can add trees for Siam, the Phillipines, and the Dutch East Indies/British Malaya
Now that Death or Dishonor is base game they should fix up the Axis minors too in a Germany DLC. Just make it an Axis DLC. Other than Italy, which sucks when playing fascist due to Mussolini, we haven’t gotten any Axis content since WTT other than Bulgaria.
A playable French Indonesia would also add a lot of much needed depth to the Pacific. We desperately need an Asian focused DLC that revitalizes the moribund Pacific campaign. Mongolia, Manchukuo, Mengukuo, Siam, Philippines, Dutch East Indies, British Malaysia, French Indochina and India need updated/given focus trees, and possibly for the attempted Axis support of Iraq and the invasion of Iran. Why neutral countries that didn't do anything get DLC content before actual combatants will always baffle me.
Japan update should have come first before the German update since the former's focus tree is USA pre-MtG tier terrible, while the latter still holds up to this day.
@@SemiLobster Because paradox doesn't care about whether these countries had an impact on the war or not. They just want more money. And it just so happens to be that Brazil had more players than Indonesia or Philippines. Philippines was a crucial island during the Pacific war or Iran was one of the most important strategic locations for both the allies and axis powers, yet none have a simple focus tree yet.
as someone with 1000+ hours, for me i barely ever play unless there is a really interesting and fun mod path for me. The vanilla game has gotten stale and boring for me
@@pablo_escanor1681and even if you turn it off in the radio menu, it will still trigger. The most annoying shit and I always forget to turn it off in the launcher.
Personally, I don't want any more expansion DLCs for HoI4. If anything, I'd prefer the already mentioned focus tree reworks and perhaps a reworked economy system-something involving money and investment. However, not the type of money systems you see in mods like TNO or MD, but rather something more akin to what's found in the Road to 56 roleplay packs.
Quite frankly, what I'd love most is the game going gold and receiving no further updates, so modders can actually "finish" mods and have them remain perpetually compatible with the base game without an update coming along every quarter and breaking everything. And leaving a generation of abandoned smaller mods that were "finished" at the time but will never be compatible with the latest version (and all the mods that did get updated) since the creator moved on.
I would absolutely love a more developed economic system. A lot of the war, the early and later periods especially, were defined by economic warfare as much as conventional warfare. Blockade, trade routes and diplomacy had a massive effect. All we see in game is a shortage of resources, what few there are.
well as long as thousands of people automatically buy every DLC no matter how bad it is they will make money. The times when PDX games where niche are long gone, they are frequently in the top sellers on steam and as you could see from the Hoi4 player count they grow over time. And they dont have teams of a thousand people developing them. It really is a cash cow at this point
But that doesn't make sense, for the Balkan dlc they didn't even added a Albanian tree, there were only 3 focus trees. In ToA they added 5 trees, they NEVER added 10 trees in a single DLC
@@maciomoiado For the price they're charging for the countries, most of which never participated in World War 2 they could've at least added something to the generic focus tree
@@stuff9680 But that's totally out of their standard, the closest thing they did was with the Chinese warlords, but it was a different situation from the countries in South America. Also, they NEVER market ToA including the whole South America, people just bought it without reading shit.
Well then they should they standarts like the abuse of DLC's for a select few countries as once is just terrible in everything but Paradox's benefits because you will always get people paying without waiting if its truly worth it@@maciomoiado
there is no any dlc gives whole continent focus tree. closest one was wtt which even it didn't give content to many Asian countries. Maybe they could give actually a tree to Bolivia with ToA but expect more than it is totally unrealistic
I wouldn't mind a Middle East dlc but yeah, the major nation reworks should be a priority, they could even pair them with some minor content fir Austria and Belgium.
'Would anyone move over to hearts of iron 5' Well with the atrocious state that effectively all paradox games seem to launch in where they need an extra 18 months of development and 2 major extra DLC releases before they finally actually feel like a complete game, I would assume people will finally stop being first adopters of new paradox releases personally.
HOI5 would need a launch similar to CK3, where the base game would appeal enough to new players. I loved CK3 at launch but I never played CK2 so I never cared about any features that hadn’t been carried over.
@@zacharysilver911CK3 is paradoxes best recent launch, as someone who's played PDX games since EU3 divine wind. EU4 and CK2 were good launches, but those were over 10 years ago. Basically, have enough new stuff that people don't care about what's missing, at least initially. Victoria 3 wouldn't have had as bad a launch if it hadn't removed both the eco and the army systems of the previous game, which the people who played vic2 had grown attached to, and hadn't done that army system after the popularity of HoI4 armies and EU4 mp armies, which are the most likely people to buy a PDX game. I still think vic2 fans would have been fine with vic3 armies if the eco hadn't been completely changed.
@@АлпамысРустембекSame situation for me, checked it out in a free weekend and almost managed to form the confederation of the rhine as saxony, had a lot of fun and eventually saved up enough money to buy the game
My biggest complaint is lack of quality of life tweaks, being able to save my templates of ships, tanks and planes between playthroughs, so i dont have to re-create the same ones every time. Also wanting to flick an auto research option or set up a research list that i can save as a template as well. Also allowing automation of supply building, it doesnt have to be perfevt just dedicate a set of civs or however many to just build railways wherever my supply is struggling. Also auto research intelligence.
@@AdrianRO1918that was a roundabout way of saying "you just don't want to play the game then". I guess that person thinks the core gameplay of hearts of iron 4 is clicking the research, clicking the funni tile, and clicking the funni template, a hundred times over. That's what people are here for, apparently.
I think if we get a HOI5 it should have more start dates. The 1939 start date is kind of useless, as a huge part of HOI4’s gameplay is political conflict, revolutions, logistics, and management. New start dates in 1919, 1929, 1947, or 1950 would introduce more replayability, community engagement, and room for DLC. Especially because HOI4 (1936-1945) has one of the shortest time scales in comparison to CK2 and 3, and the Victoria games.
If a game ran from 1919 to the 60s, the game as a whole would need to be downscaled and the AI taught to delete armies, manpower gain couldn’t be infinite in the sense it currently is, peace deals couldn’t allow you to annex the world in one war. It’s logistically a nightmare, requiring an engine change. It would be really cool if you went even further, 1910-1960. but either way each start date would need their own focus trees to accommodate the time, maybe have the newer trees „spawn in“ when the other start date times come. Which brings its own issues as to why a Hitler tree would spawn in a communist Germany you puppeted as Russia somewhere in 1918. Hoi4 is actually a bit more accessible despite how games last 7 hours or even more in multiplayer. EUIV games require it to be played over multiple days at times. Games being intended to run for 40 years would need time find a way to not be so long, but no one would enjoy having ww1 last 1 hour of game time
I don’t think I’ll give up HOI4 for a long time, it’s one of my favorite games. The base game with no dlcs, I’d get bored of pretty quick but with all the dlcs it’s still a very fun game and has tons of replayability. Then you got mods which basically create an entirely new game. Old world blues and Kaiserredux are my favorite mods and they add so much extra content that I’ve been playing them for years now and still aren’t even close to having done everything.
There's one thing they could do to keep the game going for another decade (assuming no HOI5): different start dates. They don't need to necessarily integrate them together, but being able to play starting in WW1 or the Cold War would add a lot of potential content - and thus more DLC. They can also add more gameplay features, even if its something as simple as being able to zoom in further and micro-manage regional battles on the battalion level. But if they want to keep making DLC there's lots of options. If they can just say fuck it, drop HOI5 and start the whole process again.
@@Tom-oj7sithey haven't lost their passion for money tho. Imagine the amount of people who would pay for a WW1 start date alone. Also looking at the new EU5 dev diaries, i can still see that they are trying to improve and make the best game possible.
I don't think hoi4 can do a good job simulating cold war (plus the diplomacy system in the game is very bad), ww1 and an interwar startdate like DH maybe but anything else doesn't make sense. Maybe they can add mini-scenarios focused on a specific region like some of the mods back in the day (like there used to be a warlord china scenario mod). For cold war a hybrid between hoi and victoria games would make more sense imo, a game focused more on politics, economics and diplomacy than warfare but still having a war mechanic with greater emphasis on air power, missiles, and the like with a separate insurgency/guerrila warfare mechanic.
@@thelakeman2538 Millenium Dawn, TNO, Cold War mod (forgot its exact name) all do great jobs of adding in economic systems into the game and making it less of a snowball simulator and more focused around diplomacy, economy, proxy wars etc. However I believe that PDX wouldn't do the Cold War since that would require coding a scenario that departs from the overall gameplay of HOI. World War One however shouldn't be too difficult.
@@Orbifly7 Incorrect, the 3 dlcs that got integrated are: Waking the tiger, Death or dishonor and Toghether for victory. Man the guns was sadly not integrated
also, the reason the old DLCs being integrated into the base game is because the new DLC is most likely going to be a Germany rework (and probably also the other nations the now integrated DLCs covered)
Funnily enough, I discovered HOI4 by accident when UA-cam recommended me Alex the Rambler, then it gave me Drew, and eventually their China Collab with ISP, and up until seeing ISP I found the game mediocre and the creators to be the actual point of seeing it, but ISP made the game seem so broken and so funny that I actually got into HOI4, and now I actually use the Subscription because each DLC here in Brazil is more than 100 bucks, so it's way cheaper to just pay 30 a month and get all DLC
@@zacharysilver911 It's not Dollars, I live in Brazil, it's 30 Reais, I don't know the conversion of that to Stirling Pounds but it's somewhere in the region that ISP showed
@@juliathehuman4732 I don't really mind it as I only pay the subscription when I either just want to play HOI4 again or when a Friend buys it (Never gonna happen) So I don't get bothered by it very much
I miss that gay paintbrush like you wouldn't believe And yes, I know he still makes content and gaming content on a separate channel but it just isn't the same type of SLOP as spectating AI
it's how much the game is actually worth. Base game + DLC is far too expensive. I did it once with CK2 with a 75% discount, and it was still far too pricey.
paradox and their map strategy games just keep growing. It is the same with Victoria, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis. All of those have grown very consistently over time and I doubt this will suddenly change in the future.
I really like this video essay format. Your points are very well made and it’s nice to listen to. I hope you do more of these on this Channel, or even on your main one
The thing is the new bread and butter of the DLCs is adding new mechanics (ship designer, tank designer, plane designer) which doesn’t just add depth to the base game, but also adds depth to mods. Hell, I’ve spent hours just messing with tank and plane designs in Millennium Dawn for example, it’s really what makes the game so addicting.
there are a LOT of abandoned features that could be reworked, like spies, occupation, unit types, aces and other air stuff, modding tools, puppets, peace conferences (again), automation stuff (for division medals and such), MIO's (theyre just kinda unintuitive), tank/plane designs (too reliant on meta), AI (never), and a lot more
How exactly are the modding tools abandoned? You can critique PDX for whatever reasons, but to say that the modding tools are "abandonded" is completely false. Literally anyone can pick up hoi4 and start modding with tutorials, it's very easy. Old World Blues and TNO are basically different games, yet we're made with nothing but paradox provided tools
@@dobi2236 theyre outdated and could be much better, nudger is an annoying bitch to use and theres no such thing as dynamic terrain changes, as well as the extremely specific filetypes required for some parts
Those limitations likely come from how hoi4 is coded rather than the mod tools themselves, and the only specific filetype I'm aware of is some .gfx files and localisation needing to be UTF-8-BOM. Saying something could be streamlined is alot different than calling it abandoned when they regularly change and add functions with every major update, such as the ability to give subideologies their own custom color
@@dobi2236 thats my bad for wording it wrong, but i do still feel like hoi5 should include much more modern modding capabilities, since i dont think the old clausewitz version hoi4 runs on is able to be patched to do that
@ZwizuCS that is something I can agree with. My apologies if I came off strong, I just have a bias to any dev that goes out of their way to make modding readily available and (relatively) easy for anyone to do. Clauswitz definitely needs an overhaul, some proper AI as opposed to whatever hoi4 runs on now, the ability to have map changes mid game or even state edits mid game would be a god send, imagine constructing landmarks mid game that show up on the map? Oh and some fucking optimization would be nice paradox
My best friend was ready to drop the game when No Step Back and the new supply system came out. I basically forced him to keep playing, and eventually he came to enjoy it and keeps playing to this day.
One thing they could do, is make scenarios like old hoi, I most memorably remember "The Darkest Hour" having tons of those, like Armagedon which is like in 1953 or something and the US and Soviets had nukes, it was pretty chaotic. It would be interesting to have a 1933 start date too, or maybe even have the game go on longer than like 1947 with new tech, the question is are the devs are lazy or not? Oh and new designers for Infantry Weapons, AT AA Artillery, Mechanized. They can still make more unit models for profit too.
As someone who's been playing since 2017, it still amazes me how much the community has grown and I'd love to see this continue into the future. Although for me after far too many hours the game is getting a bit difficult to enjoy as much as it used to, however, I still love coming back for the new DLCs, and whenever I get the urge to move squares around on a map to encircle other squares and capture virtual cities (which is surprisingly often)
yeah I wish Paradox focused on improving AI in future releases for any game. But then again, is there any game where the AI is genuinely good? I can't really name any lol. It's probably not easy. I hope we get simple neural network type of AI rather than the bad algorithms which we currently call "AI" in games. It could work really well to solve the issue imo, at least make it significantly more fun to play computer opponents. Otherwise what you get is nonsense, and if you want a harder game, you have to let the AI cheat, rather than make it smarter. That's pretty much what happens in every game.
@maciejbala477 the ai I think is almost as good as it can be in this games format because it can't stratigize in a game about strategy it can't only really respond to what you do. Although there are some things that could be greatly improved in my opinion. The ai seems to have no idea how to preform effective naval invasion and sometimes can't seem to defend against incoming naval invasion. The ai can't rebuild its army after crushing defeats this is most telling in the soviets if they get pushed back past the Stalin line they will never recover and will helplessy wait for the allies to help.
I remember back in 2016, the biggest complaint people had was that HoI4 wasn't an exact 1:1 copy of Darkest Hour with upgraded graphics. Mark my words: The biggest complaint people will have about HoI5 is that it isn't an exact replica of HoI4.
For people living in South America who play the game, having a focus tree for their country is nice. Particularly for Brazil, who actually sent quite a few men to fight in Italy.
@@TheCamCat777 Not gonna lie, having a sandwich game that plays like Hearts of Iron, then goes to Victoria, then Hearts of Iron again sounds pretty sick.
The problem is, you know Adolph is gonna Hittle in 1939, so the first 21 years becomes about building up for that. I think the default 1936'ish start date is about right. You as a player has metagame knowledge that shit is going to do down, but you don't get a billion years to prep for it, but nor are you thrown right into it.
@@TheCamCat777 Not nessecarily. What I picture is a demobilization period right after WWI and then WW2 which resets the game from massive armies back to the smaller, more micro intensive 36-38 wars.
I suspect though that another reason that motivated Paradox is integrate the old dlcs was to double-dip, revenue for Paradox on the whole is down massively. So to make some easy money they're going to redo the major focus trees as they bring in the most amount of attention. They could've fixed Germany, Japan and Hungary in a war effort or something. But no they're doing the option that makes em more money lol.
That will also allow them to just integrate old DLCs and release new ones for the same nations infinitely. Paid $30 for a Sweden focus tree? Too bad, it's in the base game now and we're releasing an updated one for another $30!
Bro because they're not charity organization or something,they're a company which they want MORE MONEY same as every company which it's reasonable for me
They could release bunch of focus trees in months time. Mods prove that. Instead, they postpone some countries on purpose due to greed. That creates disjointed focus trees where one seem overpowered or much deeper than others. Again, just to feed the cycle of greed.
What makes this game so popular and keeps it alive is the amount of diversity that a player has and how many different ways one can choose to advance their playthrough strategy. Every choice the player makes, the makeup and design of their units, how they distribute their power throughout their different land, air or naval forces and even the forethought to supplying and having the resources to continue to build and outfit those choices all influence the game as it progresses. Also many of these improvements or choices that have been made available and possible to the players has been through the DLC packages released over the time the game has been out. Without some of the improvements implemented by the DLC's this game most likely would be like countless others and have fallen by the wayside long ago to be replaced with something newer. It is the attention to the little details and their implementation along with a player learning and understanding exactly how the games mechanics operate while applying that to the strategy they choose that many times separate the great players from the mid pack players. What keeps HOI4 going is that it can be played so many different ways and it is or can be a challenge to try to master different aspects of the game where so many other games in their simplicity quickly lose that challenging aspect and the quest to even improve any further as there is no challenge left.
11:00 Personally, if they decide to put updated content for a country that I ALREADY PAID FOR just because they decided to make the DLCs free, the game is dead for me. I paid for the full German, Japanese, American etc. trees and if they want me to pay them again, I am not fucking doing that. This will, because they probably will do that, be the greatest show of corporate greed that will stop me (personally) from enjoying the game and paying the devs. I didn't buy any of the DLCs for them to be integrated into the base game after a few years so that PDX can re-release them with new focus trees ad infinitum. Why buy Trial of Allegiance if in 5 years it will be in the base game and Paradox will unveil their newest DLC, "Trial of Allegiance 2", that you will have to repurchase???
Dont think the game is dying, but adding focustrees for factions like sulatana of aussa, while missing out on lets say austria belgium, malaya, and the terrible focustrees of all TFV factions. The game needs new tweaks in order to stay relevant.
11:20 I am actually certain this will happen. All the nations that have base game focus trees get their historical path for free, Poland and the majors. Poland already had a dedicated DLC. You actually can get the historical NO step Back tree with the free DLC Poland United and Ready. Also, side note, I was super happy that Finland's historical tree was added for free. I wish this trend continues, especially for really essential countries. Who else would I give this treatment? Hungary, Romania, Canada and China, once they get reworked of course.
So true isorrowproductions, to live is to be in a perpetual state of dying and the nature of linear time means that death is forever approaching but fundamentally impossible to predict! Ald Landon artillery only when
I really hate the god dame DLC in this game. Why because it’s BS. You have to pay money to get a focus tree what they could have been in the game in the first place.
It’s doing good when you consider the current big release of this year killed it’s player base off in just over 6 months vs HOI which maintains a consistent player base since 2016.
Hearts of Iron 4 would be an absolutely amazing game, if the tiny details that require you to win battles versus opponents weren’t so obscure or complicated. It also needs to be playable past the end of WW2. They could make such a dang good game if they would take this existing game and add nation building and slightly less complex warfare
I like watching you look back at this game. Would you consider making a video looking back on other paradox games like Victoria 2 or EU4? I would also be curious to see you look into EU3 since that game has a very special place in my heart
it’s hard for a game to fully die, Spore hasn’t had an update in decades but the community is still going strong and the mods are getting more and more complex
Im still playing the old Hoi games hoi 4 i bought just for old world blues mod 1,500 hrs. Hoi3 was garbage i have 50hrs Vs the hoi2 arsenal of democracy 300hrs. Then hoi2 Darkest hour im killing it with 3,700 hrs. Then i still play also the original hoi 1 about 1,000hrs. Hoi4 is still worth it because of all the mods plus so many great UA-camrs playing it
in my opinion they could potentionaly add more timelines like cold war or ww1 (+ new tech and mechanics ofc) in the game after they complete and add all nations focus trees because thats a thing i would definitely buy
I think the only things left for them to really add would be a Middle East update of some sort, and then like you said, reworking pre-existing nations like the U.S., Germany, Japan, the commonwealth countries, and maybe even China, the minor axis nations, and maybe adding some stuff for other minor powers like Belgium and Austria. After that, I think Paradox will have to pull the plug and move on to other projects and games.
Really enjoyed this video and would love for more. Hearing you’re thoughts and then everyone else’s in the comments is very nice. Maybe hoi5 would be more modern day as that’s the only path I could see them taking.
This is the way I've been playing all PDX games. Buy on release. Play for 2 weeks. Shelve it. DLC comes out. Play DLC for 2 weeks. Shelve game. Rinse and repeat.
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HoI4 is terminally ill. The only cure would be a sequel to the Artillery only challenge and an Alf Landon playthrough.
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The most philosophical and eloquent I’ve heard this man talk. And it’s on the SLOP Channel
also no SLOP intro. am I dreaming?
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😂 olny paid for the basic game 😅
@@mapgamingwilChrist is king
If they ever find a cure for autism paradox is finished
That is racist
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@@GekkeHenkie1313 No. Search the definition of Racism, that would be capacitism.
@@WhodamnKnows now you are just being anti-semitic
@@GekkeHenkie1313 Why?
When iSorrow drops a video saying "I'm done making -money off of- youtube videos of HOI4"
Then you will know it's dying.
But he already did that back in 2019 or something
@@triersero2763 no he didn't, when did he do that?
@@triersero2763 He was on a break at the time.
@justinambru8529 at the time he was pretty adamant that he won't come back to it.
@@triersero2763 And then he came back. Crawling for the money.
The game has tens of thousands more people playing it any given moment than it did on release. It's the TF2 of grand strategy games.
Meh, Hex of Steel is better, I stopped HoI4 2 years ago. Riddled with issues
@@danando2there are also probably a dozen games better than TF2, yet TF2 will always be special and have a decent player base
except that Hoi4 is being played by real people unlike TF2 which is 99% Russian/Chinese/Indian bots farming trading cards and loot boxes
@technoita the malicious bots are gone rn and idle bots aren't that economical so they really don't make up much of the player base. Tf2 is just genuinely kicking along with its fan base
@hanneswiggenhorn2023 indeed! I do recommend HoS (hex of Steel) if u ever played panzercorps and PG series :) best ww2 turn based strategy there is :)
the fact that thailand STILL doesn’t have a focus tree despite its huge role and political turmoil during WWII is really kinda crazy
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@@lennyauspacken but there was...?
Lol true, nvm
Yeah dude, it conquered half of asia
Would be cool to bundle that, and Philippines, into a Japan rework
Honestly I think it's pretty reasonable that they add a Belgium and Austria focus tree alongside the German rework, and then whenever they do the Japanese rework they can add trees for Siam, the Phillipines, and the Dutch East Indies/British Malaya
Now that Death or Dishonor is base game they should fix up the Axis minors too in a Germany DLC. Just make it an Axis DLC. Other than Italy, which sucks when playing fascist due to Mussolini, we haven’t gotten any Axis content since WTT other than Bulgaria.
The “Co-prosperity update”.
A playable French Indonesia would also add a lot of much needed depth to the Pacific. We desperately need an Asian focused DLC that revitalizes the moribund Pacific campaign. Mongolia, Manchukuo, Mengukuo, Siam, Philippines, Dutch East Indies, British Malaysia, French Indochina and India need updated/given focus trees, and possibly for the attempted Axis support of Iraq and the invasion of Iran. Why neutral countries that didn't do anything get DLC content before actual combatants will always baffle me.
Japan update should have come first before the German update since the former's focus tree is USA pre-MtG tier terrible, while the latter still holds up to this day.
@@SemiLobster Because paradox doesn't care about whether these countries had an impact on the war or not. They just want more money. And it just so happens to be that Brazil had more players than Indonesia or Philippines.
Philippines was a crucial island during the Pacific war or Iran was one of the most important strategic locations for both the allies and axis powers, yet none have a simple focus tree yet.
as someone with 1000+ hours, for me i barely ever play unless there is a really interesting and fun mod path for me. The vanilla game has gotten stale and boring for me
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I'm there with hoi4 and eu4 now.
i advise you to play hearts of minecraft, its a funny mod
>calls these vids slop
>better editing and more informative than main channel vids
ISP doesn't have allied speeches pack? But then how do you play the game without hearing the deafening Russian speech whenever you hit 1941?
I like how you can’t adjust the volume, turn the ones in languages you don’t speak off and will question your life decisions because you paid for this
This isorrow fellow doesnt play hoi4 with all the dlc
Never turned on the Sabaton music pack
People have the games sound on?
@@pablo_escanor1681and even if you turn it off in the radio menu, it will still trigger. The most annoying shit and I always forget to turn it off in the launcher.
It disturbs my music mod@@countrygeneral
Personally, I don't want any more expansion DLCs for HoI4. If anything, I'd prefer the already mentioned focus tree reworks and perhaps a reworked economy system-something involving money and investment. However, not the type of money systems you see in mods like TNO or MD, but rather something more akin to what's found in the Road to 56 roleplay packs.
Quite frankly, what I'd love most is the game going gold and receiving no further updates, so modders can actually "finish" mods and have them remain perpetually compatible with the base game without an update coming along every quarter and breaking everything. And leaving a generation of abandoned smaller mods that were "finished" at the time but will never be compatible with the latest version (and all the mods that did get updated) since the creator moved on.
I wont accept we are done with Focus Trees until Austria gets one
@@miguellemir242yawn tbh
I would absolutely love a more developed economic system. A lot of the war, the early and later periods especially, were defined by economic warfare as much as conventional warfare. Blockade, trade routes and diplomacy had a massive effect. All we see in game is a shortage of resources, what few there are.
agree
Paradox have a habit of somehow making a game last longer than it ever should, case in point Victoria 2
Cities Skylines
The whole game was carried by Modders with a bit of DLC pushing
well as long as thousands of people automatically buy every DLC no matter how bad it is they will make money. The times when PDX games where niche are long gone, they are frequently in the top sellers on steam and as you could see from the Hoi4 player count they grow over time. And they dont have teams of a thousand people developing them. It really is a cash cow at this point
In fairness, Victoria 2 GFM and TGC are awesome mods
The South America DLC would have been better received if Paradox you know added all of South America into the game
But that doesn't make sense, for the Balkan dlc they didn't even added a Albanian tree, there were only 3 focus trees.
In ToA they added 5 trees, they NEVER added 10 trees in a single DLC
@@maciomoiado For the price they're charging for the countries, most of which never participated in World War 2 they could've at least added something to the generic focus tree
@@stuff9680 But that's totally out of their standard, the closest thing they did was with the Chinese warlords, but it was a different situation from the countries in South America. Also, they NEVER market ToA including the whole South America, people just bought it without reading shit.
Well then they should they standarts like the abuse of DLC's for a select few countries as once is just terrible in everything but Paradox's benefits because you will always get people paying without waiting if its truly worth it@@maciomoiado
there is no any dlc gives whole continent focus tree. closest one was wtt which even it didn't give content to many Asian countries. Maybe they could give actually a tree to Bolivia with ToA but expect more than it is totally unrealistic
I wouldn't mind a Middle East dlc but yeah, the major nation reworks should be a priority, they could even pair them with some minor content fir Austria and Belgium.
'Would anyone move over to hearts of iron 5' Well with the atrocious state that effectively all paradox games seem to launch in where they need an extra 18 months of development and 2 major extra DLC releases before they finally actually feel like a complete game, I would assume people will finally stop being first adopters of new paradox releases personally.
Cities Skylines 2
Prison Architect 2
Victoria 3
Yeah I see that now
HOI5 would need a launch similar to CK3, where the base game would appeal enough to new players. I loved CK3 at launch but I never played CK2 so I never cared about any features that hadn’t been carried over.
@@zacharysilver911Same was VC3 for me, I didn't get the hate it was getting
@@zacharysilver911CK3 is paradoxes best recent launch, as someone who's played PDX games since EU3 divine wind. EU4 and CK2 were good launches, but those were over 10 years ago. Basically, have enough new stuff that people don't care about what's missing, at least initially.
Victoria 3 wouldn't have had as bad a launch if it hadn't removed both the eco and the army systems of the previous game, which the people who played vic2 had grown attached to, and hadn't done that army system after the popularity of HoI4 armies and EU4 mp armies, which are the most likely people to buy a PDX game. I still think vic2 fans would have been fine with vic3 armies if the eco hadn't been completely changed.
@@АлпамысРустембекSame situation for me, checked it out in a free weekend and almost managed to form the confederation of the rhine as saxony, had a lot of fun and eventually saved up enough money to buy the game
My biggest complaint is lack of quality of life tweaks, being able to save my templates of ships, tanks and planes between playthroughs, so i dont have to re-create the same ones every time.
Also wanting to flick an auto research option or set up a research list that i can save as a template as well.
Also allowing automation of supply building, it doesnt have to be perfevt just dedicate a set of civs or however many to just build railways wherever my supply is struggling.
Also auto research intelligence.
Have you tried opening the console and typing "observe"?
@@brinkipinki what does that have to do with automation?
@@AdrianRO1918that was a roundabout way of saying "you just don't want to play the game then".
I guess that person thinks the core gameplay of hearts of iron 4 is clicking the research, clicking the funni tile, and clicking the funni template, a hundred times over. That's what people are here for, apparently.
Id love a option for an automated navy, I still don't know how to use the navy.
There are mods for auto research and auto queue mods. Alas, no HOI video people cover them really at least from what I've seen.
I think if we get a HOI5 it should have more start dates. The 1939 start date is kind of useless, as a huge part of HOI4’s gameplay is political conflict, revolutions, logistics, and management. New start dates in 1919, 1929, 1947, or 1950 would introduce more replayability, community engagement, and room for DLC. Especially because HOI4 (1936-1945) has one of the shortest time scales in comparison to CK2 and 3, and the Victoria games.
You do know this ENTIRE game is set around WW2. The game engine itself is for TOTAL WAR.
Historical 1947 is just a bunch of proxy wars it definitely not intresting
If people computers start lagging from playing until 1945 in hoi4 then theyd start exploding playing from 1919 to 1965 in hoi4
@@FlorkGnubblerWell that is why he says it should be at hoi5 because the game should be designed this at mind if its ever gonna work
If a game ran from 1919 to the 60s, the game as a whole would need to be downscaled and the AI taught to delete armies, manpower gain couldn’t be infinite in the sense it currently is, peace deals couldn’t allow you to annex the world in one war. It’s logistically a nightmare, requiring an engine change.
It would be really cool if you went even further, 1910-1960. but either way each start date would need their own focus trees to accommodate the time, maybe have the newer trees „spawn in“ when the other start date times come. Which brings its own issues as to why a Hitler tree would spawn in a communist Germany you puppeted as Russia somewhere in 1918.
Hoi4 is actually a bit more accessible despite how games last 7 hours or even more in multiplayer. EUIV games require it to be played over multiple days at times. Games being intended to run for 40 years would need time find a way to not be so long, but no one would enjoy having ww1 last 1 hour of game time
I don’t think I’ll give up HOI4 for a long time, it’s one of my favorite games. The base game with no dlcs, I’d get bored of pretty quick but with all the dlcs it’s still a very fun game and has tons of replayability. Then you got mods which basically create an entirely new game. Old world blues and Kaiserredux are my favorite mods and they add so much extra content that I’ve been playing them for years now and still aren’t even close to having done everything.
Short answer: rat
Long answer: please give us the rat mr slop
He is DEAD.
:((
There's one thing they could do to keep the game going for another decade (assuming no HOI5): different start dates. They don't need to necessarily integrate them together, but being able to play starting in WW1 or the Cold War would add a lot of potential content - and thus more DLC.
They can also add more gameplay features, even if its something as simple as being able to zoom in further and micro-manage regional battles on the battalion level.
But if they want to keep making DLC there's lots of options. If they can just say fuck it, drop HOI5 and start the whole process again.
Too much work, pdx has lost its passion a long time ago
@@Tom-oj7sithey haven't lost their passion for money tho. Imagine the amount of people who would pay for a WW1 start date alone.
Also looking at the new EU5 dev diaries, i can still see that they are trying to improve and make the best game possible.
@@aguy5912 Imagine the uproar of them adding a WW1 start date dlc when we have mods for just that.
I don't think hoi4 can do a good job simulating cold war (plus the diplomacy system in the game is very bad), ww1 and an interwar startdate like DH maybe but anything else doesn't make sense. Maybe they can add mini-scenarios focused on a specific region like some of the mods back in the day (like there used to be a warlord china scenario mod). For cold war a hybrid between hoi and victoria games would make more sense imo, a game focused more on politics, economics and diplomacy than warfare but still having a war mechanic with greater emphasis on air power, missiles, and the like with a separate insurgency/guerrila warfare mechanic.
@@thelakeman2538 Millenium Dawn, TNO, Cold War mod (forgot its exact name) all do great jobs of adding in economic systems into the game and making it less of a snowball simulator and more focused around diplomacy, economy, proxy wars etc.
However I believe that PDX wouldn't do the Cold War since that would require coding a scenario that departs from the overall gameplay of HOI. World War One however shouldn't be too difficult.
Maybe, but not more then ISP is dying inside
Slop
@@sus_sand5811 slop
dying? he died the day he started Hoi4 A-Z, the series where we play every single country in vanilla Hearts of Iron 4.
King Slop going on a 14 minute soliloquy about the eventual heat death of the universe
3:42 man the guns is not in the base game of hoi4
It is now, the game has integrated 3 dlcs
@@Orbifly7 Incorrect, the 3 dlcs that got integrated are: Waking the tiger, Death or dishonor and Toghether for victory. Man the guns was sadly not integrated
@@Orbifly7 nope, I bought it two days ago when it was on sale.
it definitely isn't base game
@@kubak2406oh sorry I thought it was in the base game
also, the reason the old DLCs being integrated into the base game is because the new DLC is most likely going to be a Germany rework (and probably also the other nations the now integrated DLCs covered)
yeah also as he said, whole dlcs were looking very crowded and confusing
Japan and the whole Pacific Theater should've get new content and reworks first before Germany and their neighbors
Funnily enough, I discovered HOI4 by accident when UA-cam recommended me Alex the Rambler, then it gave me Drew, and eventually their China Collab with ISP, and up until seeing ISP I found the game mediocre and the creators to be the actual point of seeing it, but ISP made the game seem so broken and so funny that I actually got into HOI4, and now I actually use the Subscription because each DLC here in Brazil is more than 100 bucks, so it's way cheaper to just pay 30 a month and get all DLC
Bro what is that currently conversion. You cannot be playing 30 USD a month for HOI4
@@zacharysilver911 It's not Dollars, I live in Brazil, it's 30 Reais, I don't know the conversion of that to Stirling Pounds but it's somewhere in the region that ISP showed
hey, just a heads up, the dlcs for hoi4 are pretty easy to pirate if you want to stop paying for a subscription
@@juliathehuman4732 I don't really mind it as I only pay the subscription when I either just want to play HOI4 again or when a Friend buys it (Never gonna happen) So I don't get bothered by it very much
I miss that gay paintbrush like you wouldn't believe
And yes, I know he still makes content and gaming content on a separate channel but it just isn't the same type of SLOP as spectating AI
Meanwhile biggest edition of civ 7 costs around the same as all hoi4 dlc lmao
What’s in there to cost that much?
@@АрсенийПетрушков-м7ц random shit like playing early and other useless stuff
@@АрсенийПетрушков-м7ц hype? FOMO? Taking advantage of nostalgia?
Average big corpa move in 2024 AD...
Maybe in 2057 we'll see a belgian focus tree (right after DLC 476 - Buthan focus tree update)
For Paradox games i always buy the main game, then pirate the dlcs. Works like a charm!
it's how much the game is actually worth. Base game + DLC is far too expensive. I did it once with CK2 with a 75% discount, and it was still far too pricey.
It's not ethical :/
@@giuseppegaribaldi5198paradox isn't ethical
@@maximilianodelrio Ja Hans,Ja...
make a tierlist of which countries need dlcs the most
half of community only plays Germany anyway,
paradox and their map strategy games just keep growing. It is the same with Victoria, Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis. All of those have grown very consistently over time and I doubt this will suddenly change in the future.
As a chilean myself, I am interested in 2 things: playing Chile, and the RAT, bring us the RAT BACK ISP
I really like this video essay format. Your points are very well made and it’s nice to listen to. I hope you do more of these on this Channel, or even on your main one
I hope Hoi5 will get a new game engine
Look what Victoria 3 is now, so you see what the new game is about!
So HOI5 will be Victoria 3 in 1939-1945…
This might actually be the smartest i've heard isp talk and its on the slop channel too. I hope there are more of these types of videos
Hearts of Iron 4 as far as the DLC is concerned is what happens whenever I try and introduce a friend to any Total War game
4.2k hours, now everytime i load up and just stare at the map for 10m thinking what to do and then i close the game
Whenever a game dies, there will always be modders who will keep it alive.
The thing is the new bread and butter of the DLCs is adding new mechanics (ship designer, tank designer, plane designer) which doesn’t just add depth to the base game, but also adds depth to mods. Hell, I’ve spent hours just messing with tank and plane designs in Millennium Dawn for example, it’s really what makes the game so addicting.
there are a LOT of abandoned features that could be reworked, like spies, occupation, unit types, aces and other air stuff, modding tools, puppets, peace conferences (again), automation stuff (for division medals and such), MIO's (theyre just kinda unintuitive), tank/plane designs (too reliant on meta), AI (never), and a lot more
How exactly are the modding tools abandoned? You can critique PDX for whatever reasons, but to say that the modding tools are "abandonded" is completely false. Literally anyone can pick up hoi4 and start modding with tutorials, it's very easy. Old World Blues and TNO are basically different games, yet we're made with nothing but paradox provided tools
@@dobi2236 theyre outdated and could be much better, nudger is an annoying bitch to use and theres no such thing as dynamic terrain changes, as well as the extremely specific filetypes required for some parts
Those limitations likely come from how hoi4 is coded rather than the mod tools themselves, and the only specific filetype I'm aware of is some .gfx files and localisation needing to be UTF-8-BOM. Saying something could be streamlined is alot different than calling it abandoned when they regularly change and add functions with every major update, such as the ability to give subideologies their own custom color
@@dobi2236 thats my bad for wording it wrong, but i do still feel like hoi5 should include much more modern modding capabilities, since i dont think the old clausewitz version hoi4 runs on is able to be patched to do that
@ZwizuCS that is something I can agree with. My apologies if I came off strong, I just have a bias to any dev that goes out of their way to make modding readily available and (relatively) easy for anyone to do.
Clauswitz definitely needs an overhaul, some proper AI as opposed to whatever hoi4 runs on now, the ability to have map changes mid game or even state edits mid game would be a god send, imagine constructing landmarks mid game that show up on the map?
Oh and some fucking optimization would be nice paradox
From the french POV, Hoi 4 is in a great period with the youtuber fr doing great to attact a big communitu and news players
My best friend was ready to drop the game when No Step Back and the new supply system came out. I basically forced him to keep playing, and eventually he came to enjoy it and keeps playing to this day.
You are a devil, to torture a man like that, and if it wasn't enough you made him addicted
bro saw him reaching for the light and forcefully dragged him back into the abyss, great friendship i must say
One thing they could do, is make scenarios like old hoi, I most memorably remember "The Darkest Hour" having tons of those, like Armagedon which is like in 1953 or something and the US and Soviets had nukes, it was pretty chaotic.
It would be interesting to have a 1933 start date too, or maybe even have the game go on longer than like 1947 with new tech, the question is are the devs are lazy or not?
Oh and new designers for Infantry Weapons, AT AA Artillery, Mechanized. They can still make more unit models for profit too.
The rat died
Slöp?
Slop 😔
Good
The rat …..rats LIKE slop.
So let the rat have some slop.
It's a Henry the eight thing, some Rats survived
I wouldn’t say it’s dying. It’s like a person- growing and getting stronger with age until it plateaus and then starts slowly dying from being old
Eventually pdx will have to bite the bullet and just make hoi5
They’ll do that the day ES6 comes out
@@Aredel nah, they'll do it earlier. They did CK3 not that long ago, they are doing EU5 now, eventually you'll get HOI5
As someone who's been playing since 2017, it still amazes me how much the community has grown and I'd love to see this continue into the future. Although for me after far too many hours the game is getting a bit difficult to enjoy as much as it used to, however, I still love coming back for the new DLCs, and whenever I get the urge to move squares around on a map to encircle other squares and capture virtual cities (which is surprisingly often)
Man the Guns isn’t in the base game
I stumbled across hoi4 in middle school right around 2018 and I’ve been a fan ever since
The A.I in this game is actually a fucking joke. (1.5k hours)
yeah I wish Paradox focused on improving AI in future releases for any game. But then again, is there any game where the AI is genuinely good? I can't really name any lol. It's probably not easy.
I hope we get simple neural network type of AI rather than the bad algorithms which we currently call "AI" in games. It could work really well to solve the issue imo, at least make it significantly more fun to play computer opponents. Otherwise what you get is nonsense, and if you want a harder game, you have to let the AI cheat, rather than make it smarter. That's pretty much what happens in every game.
@maciejbala477 the ai I think is almost as good as it can be in this games format because it can't stratigize in a game about strategy it can't only really respond to what you do. Although there are some things that could be greatly improved in my opinion. The ai seems to have no idea how to preform effective naval invasion and sometimes can't seem to defend against incoming naval invasion. The ai can't rebuild its army after crushing defeats this is most telling in the soviets if they get pushed back past the Stalin line they will never recover and will helplessy wait for the allies to help.
i agree with you (50 hours)
Use Smart or Expert AI Mods😊
@@hopedream11 never really noticed a different when using them
I remember back in 2016, the biggest complaint people had was that HoI4 wasn't an exact 1:1 copy of Darkest Hour with upgraded graphics.
Mark my words: The biggest complaint people will have about HoI5 is that it isn't an exact replica of HoI4.
And the DLC policy. Always the DLC policy.
I think it's slowly dying, not from MP PoV, but DLC quality.
Bhutan, mongolia, tibet and nepal focus tree inbound
@@jstoned88 How could you forget... About the most powerful country on earth at this time... TANNU TUVA
Last DLCs has been the best has ever com to the game… so that does not add on…
there has never been any quality. Allied AI was never fixed, and PDX doesnt give a shlt because they all have a crush on hitler
you know what is the best fix to the prices?
piracy
For people living in South America who play the game, having a focus tree for their country is nice. Particularly for Brazil, who actually sent quite a few men to fight in Italy.
A demobilization mechanic would still be a good add.
I hope Hearts of Iron 5 goes from 1918-1956
ehh... then it becomes economic rebuild simulator for 20 in game years
Vic 3.5
@@TheCamCat777 Not gonna lie, having a sandwich game that plays like Hearts of Iron, then goes to Victoria, then Hearts of Iron again sounds pretty sick.
The problem is, you know Adolph is gonna Hittle in 1939, so the first 21 years becomes about building up for that.
I think the default 1936'ish start date is about right. You as a player has metagame knowledge that shit is going to do down, but you don't get a billion years to prep for it, but nor are you thrown right into it.
@@TheCamCat777 Not nessecarily. What I picture is a demobilization period right after WWI and then WW2 which resets the game from massive armies back to the smaller, more micro intensive 36-38 wars.
Does the latest announcement concerning the upcoming DLC package sort of answer some of the questions this video seemed to be asking?
I suspect though that another reason that motivated Paradox is integrate the old dlcs was to double-dip, revenue for Paradox on the whole is down massively. So to make some easy money they're going to redo the major focus trees as they bring in the most amount of attention.
They could've fixed Germany, Japan and Hungary in a war effort or something. But no they're doing the option that makes em more money lol.
That will also allow them to just integrate old DLCs and release new ones for the same nations infinitely. Paid $30 for a Sweden focus tree? Too bad, it's in the base game now and we're releasing an updated one for another $30!
Bro because they're not charity organization or something,they're a company which they want MORE MONEY same as every company which it's reasonable for me
I personally recommend the third way of purchasing the dlces. That is by getting it from some slavic friend you made on discord at the cost of naught.
They could release bunch of focus trees in months time. Mods prove that. Instead, they postpone some countries on purpose due to greed. That creates disjointed focus trees where one seem overpowered or much deeper than others. Again, just to feed the cycle of greed.
MORE STARTING SCENARIOS
I mean no but technically yes.
What makes this game so popular and keeps it alive is the amount of diversity that a player has and how many different ways one can choose to advance their playthrough strategy.
Every choice the player makes, the makeup and design of their units, how they distribute their power throughout their different land, air or naval forces and even the forethought to supplying and having the resources to continue to build and outfit those choices all influence the game as it progresses.
Also many of these improvements or choices that have been made available and possible to the players has been through the DLC packages released over the time the game has been out.
Without some of the improvements implemented by the DLC's this game most likely would be like countless others and have fallen by the wayside long ago to be replaced with something newer.
It is the attention to the little details and their implementation along with a player learning and understanding exactly how the games mechanics operate while applying that to the strategy they choose that many times separate the great players from the mid pack players.
What keeps HOI4 going is that it can be played so many different ways and it is or can be a challenge to try to master different aspects of the game where so many other games in their simplicity quickly lose that challenging aspect and the quest to even improve any further as there is no challenge left.
0:36, Yep sounds like italian Ai
Şlòp
3:42 I too am in denial about the blocking sea zones button
As someone with thousands of hours who left a negative review on the steam page, unfortunately it isn't dying
Paradox could create something like HOI2 Doomsday and make a new start date for a hypothetical conflict between the East and West.
It's hover
Well, I think there must be a New Order... it seems it might be the Last Days of Europe in Hearts of Iron IV
11:00
Personally, if they decide to put updated content for a country that I ALREADY PAID FOR just because they decided to make the DLCs free, the game is dead for me. I paid for the full German, Japanese, American etc. trees and if they want me to pay them again, I am not fucking doing that. This will, because they probably will do that, be the greatest show of corporate greed that will stop me (personally) from enjoying the game and paying the devs. I didn't buy any of the DLCs for them to be integrated into the base game after a few years so that PDX can re-release them with new focus trees ad infinitum. Why buy Trial of Allegiance if in 5 years it will be in the base game and Paradox will unveil their newest DLC, "Trial of Allegiance 2", that you will have to repurchase???
I was so sad when Puru wasn't given a focus tree in Trial of Allegiance :(
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Dont think the game is dying, but adding focustrees for factions like sulatana of aussa, while missing out on lets say austria belgium, malaya, and the terrible focustrees of all TFV factions. The game needs new tweaks in order to stay relevant.
The game may probably dying out, but the dlcs will just postpone it. The downfall is inevitable
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Really well put together video essay. Would definitely like to see more of these
Slop
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Crazy how good your takes are given how your persona on your main channel. I'm loving this kind of content please keep it up :)
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The calmer and more sincere side of Isorrow is always nice to see in videos
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Honestly...it might be dying
11:20 I am actually certain this will happen. All the nations that have base game focus trees get their historical path for free, Poland and the majors. Poland already had a dedicated DLC. You actually can get the historical NO step Back tree with the free DLC Poland United and Ready.
Also, side note, I was super happy that Finland's historical tree was added for free. I wish this trend continues, especially for really essential countries. Who else would I give this treatment? Hungary, Romania, Canada and China, once they get reworked of course.
Those already happened
@@noobiamyes4853 You misunderstood me. I meant when they get reworked _again_
So true isorrowproductions, to live is to be in a perpetual state of dying and the nature of linear time means that death is forever approaching but fundamentally impossible to predict! Ald Landon artillery only when
I really hate the god dame DLC in this game. Why because it’s BS. You have to pay money to get a focus tree what they could have been in the game in the first place.
It’s doing good when you consider the current big release of this year killed it’s player base off in just over 6 months vs HOI which maintains a consistent player base since 2016.
Hearts of Iron 4 would be an absolutely amazing game, if the tiny details that require you to win battles versus opponents weren’t so obscure or complicated. It also needs to be playable past the end of WW2. They could make such a dang good game if they would take this existing game and add nation building and slightly less complex warfare
The first game I ever played on hoi4 was multiplayer with my friends. I played Honduras and just goofed around, constantly requesting docking rights
I like watching you look back at this game. Would you consider making a video looking back on other paradox games like Victoria 2 or EU4? I would also be curious to see you look into EU3 since that game has a very special place in my heart
it’s hard for a game to fully die, Spore hasn’t had an update in decades but the community is still going strong and the mods are getting more and more complex
Don't know about others but when I used to play, I always felt there needed to be a much much harder & in-depth mechanism for Oil & supplies.
Im still playing the old Hoi games hoi 4 i bought just for old world blues mod 1,500 hrs. Hoi3 was garbage i have 50hrs Vs the hoi2 arsenal of democracy 300hrs. Then hoi2 Darkest hour im killing it with 3,700 hrs. Then i still play also the original hoi 1 about 1,000hrs. Hoi4 is still worth it because of all the mods plus so many great UA-camrs playing it
i love how you can see he fucking loves the new video animations, hes been putting them in every video recently
I want an eco rework to make it more like BICE or even Vic3, because the economy is pretty much solved and fuel doesnt get used by factories
I quit hoi4 like 2 years ago? 3 actually, and just watch your content for the nostalgia.
That got philosophical at the end. I enjoyed that.
in my opinion they could potentionaly add more timelines like cold war or ww1 (+ new tech and mechanics ofc) in the game after they complete and add all nations focus trees because thats a thing i would definitely buy
I think the only things left for them to really add would be a Middle East update of some sort, and then like you said, reworking pre-existing nations like the U.S., Germany, Japan, the commonwealth countries, and maybe even China, the minor axis nations, and maybe adding some stuff for other minor powers like Belgium and Austria. After that, I think Paradox will have to pull the plug and move on to other projects and games.
I should probably admit myself to a psych ward as I do not feel safe when I'm alone and I cannot trust myself.
Really enjoyed this video and would love for more. Hearing you’re thoughts and then everyone else’s in the comments is very nice. Maybe hoi5 would be more modern day as that’s the only path I could see them taking.
This is the way I've been playing all PDX games.
Buy on release.
Play for 2 weeks.
Shelve it.
DLC comes out. Play DLC for 2 weeks.
Shelve game.
Rinse and repeat.