I think you are missing the point here. People want PAPER LIKE protectors not just a protector. Of course any protector isn't going to scratch but ones that give you friction will. MOSHI is not paper like style so your comment really doesn't fit with this review
@@jm7720 Not everyone here wants paperlike protectors, many people have used those and stopped because they weren't for them just like me. I switched from paperlike to moshi and they have different options as well. their matte one almost feels like paper but does not wear out pencil tips.
I'm pretty sure any screen protector with with tooth to it is going to wear away at the pencil. The smoother the surface, the less tooth, and less friction to wear away at the pencil nib.
Yeah, I replaced my pencil nip before I realised it was my Paperlike screen protector that was wearing it down. I’m not heavy on my iPad and was surprised that it could do this. Great information. Thanks…
Try using letter sized clear acetate or view foils ( for those old enough to remember), it works really well and is dirt cheap. I just tape it on near the top and the clear material gives you just enough tooth for a realistic drawing feedback. The material is perfectly clear and does not leave a residue on your ipad screen. You can easily replace the vinyl or acetate since it is not stuck on. I have experimented with several materials with different feedback feel … just dig in your old art drawer and see what you can find ……….
Nice honest review. Do have any suggestions for other good "paper like" screen protectors, which give you the feel of drawing on paper on not wearing down the tip so fast?
Your observations are exactly like my experience with paperlike. Like you, I have both models used on two iPads with two pencils. The experience is completely different from the original model. Even the sound it made on the original paperlike was satisfying and the friction was more like ‘real paper’. I hope they can get this figured out on the next gen. Thanks!
When you just start out drawing with the Apple Pencil, the pencil needs to adjust itself tou your touch. When you draw with it a little longer then the grip will get better.
I really loved my original Paperlike that I had years ago. It lasted for AGES. But when I got the iPad Pro 2020 and got the new Paperlike, it was scratched up the first day I used it! I also could never get all the air bubbles out. But when I got off-brand matte screen protectors, the bubbles came out fine and after several months (around a year, actually) no scratches. It’s starting to get a few spots around the edges that aren’t adhering to the iPad screen as much anymore, but I barely notice it unless I’m looking. It was a 2-pack like Paperlike, but half the price, so I still have one left.
@@aidanmcsweeney Then don't use the word paper in the ad. This company is very deceptive and ultimately people have proven its crap. It leaves tons of lines all over and wears down nibs. Cheaper to just buy paper than deal with this crap
Hi. I bought my iPad mini after a long time of not owning any tablets and bought paper-like after seeing good reviews on it. I like how it stops glare in the screen but I hate how it makes it hard for the ipad to sense my fingers and prevents me from swiping, and zooming in or out when using the Sketchbook app
Thanks for the honest feedback! I thought I was the only one with this experience. I’ll be keeping mine on as I can tell the difference between drawing with it on and without it. I just miss the paper sound and feel. I do appreciate that it’s less ‘blurry’ then the first one.
I recently bought the new M1 iPad Pro 12.9 inches and also Paperlike 2. I can't say anything about wear on the tip or anything like that because I've only had it for 3 weeks. However, I immediately noticed that the paperlike creates an extreme rainbow effect. I think that Paperlike 2 is not really mature in combination with the new display, so I would definitely advise against this combination as it makes the new display almost completely redundant. P.s. Thank you for your honest and authentic review, I discovered you through this video and will definitely check out the others too. Greetings from Austria
thank you for this video. i have a question, im going to buy a new ipad and pencil 2. i want to draw. should i buy anything else as accessory? for example, im seeing a lot of pencil tips on amazon. do you recommend?
I just purchased an IPad Pro 4th Gen 12.9 inch, along with PaperLike 2. After watching your video, I'm a little nervous, because your review was with the most recent IPad Pro (correct me if I'm wrong). Nevertheless, I'm gonna apply it and see if any of your points are obvious. I too have enjoyed PaperLIke 1 on both my IPad Pros (11 & 12.9 3rd Gen). It's the reason why I immediately purchased it for my new tablet. Thanks for this truly honest review. It was very well thought out and presented. By the way, I am a Writer & Copy Editor, so much of what I do deals with writing.
This is my personal experience with PaperLike 2. It all depends on the way you use your Apple Pencil and with what strength you apply it. Let me know what your experience is when you use it.
I noticed that the colors are different with the paperlike screen protector especially with the iPad Pro 2021. Also, you are absolutely right the texture from the paperlike 1 to Paperlike 2 is completely different. Paperlike 2 almost feels like a plastic wax surface.
Thanks for the review. I have never used a Paperlike but I have another type of matte screen protector on my iPad and I would not use the Apple Pencil without it. Writing or drawing on the glass screen feels horrible. I considered getting a Paperlike when I got the iPad but almost every tech UA-cam seemed to be sponsored by Paperlike and I didn't really trust any of the "reviews" out there so I skipped it. An example perhaps of a companies aggressive marketing backfiring if only in the case of one potential customer.
My experience with Paperlike 2 is like yours. It doesn't provide a paper-like feel for the Apple Pencil. So, what's the point other than being a screen protector. But that's why I have a cover for my iPad.
I got paper like 2. Disappointed with the obvious wear on the screen protector after only a week of use. Returning. I do like the matte finish. Any other better products?
@@animatrix3157 I used my iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil and never used a screen protector. There are no scratches. I only tested PaperLike on my 2015 iPad for a month to test it out. To me there is no difference. So I removed it. I have drawing on my newer iPad Pro since 2018 evert day and it has no scratches.
I recommend no screen protector. Just draw on the iPad screen. That is what i have been doing all along. It just getting used to the feeling of drawing on a smooth surface. When you draw longer the Apple Pencil will set to your drawing style and gets a little bit of a grid.
@@StayfDraws no no, absolutely not. Buy a screen protector, if you are unlucky enough to get any small amount of grit or particles on the screen and the pencil catches it, it will scratch the screen. Buy a screen protector.
Appreciate the review. I do like paperlike1. I’d rather replace nibs more often in exchange for the toothier structure. I also keep a little spray bottle with me to make sure the surface is free of oil from my palm as the surface gets slippery easily when the oils accumulate. From what you’ve deduced, I’m pretty sure I’d prefer the toothier surface of paperlike1 vs 2. That being said I haven’t tried any other matt screen protectors that may or may not be better. So for now I enjoy the first iteration. Thanks again and I always enjoy your videos!
I’m on my second paperlike2 in under a month, I hate the product, it’s full of scratches on the screen, I have contacted them and they are sending a replacement but I’ve ordered anther brand and I won’t be using paperlike again. Thanx for your review.
Good honest review. To be honest, I’ve used Paperlike2 on my iPad for months and I’ve loved it. I feel a good amount of friction vs the bare glass. I found this video though because I’ve been looking at screen protectors for the new iPad Pro M1 with XDR, and I wanted to see what options are available today. I love the Paperlike for drawing which I primarily use my iPad for, but with the XDR screen, I feel sad about putting any matte screen protector on it because it will decrease the quality of the XDR display which feels like a shame. So I’m a bit torn. My Paperlike2 protector is functionally great, I’m satisfied with it, but it DOES dull the colors. The scratches it picks up is reminiscent to how my Wacom devices have picked up scratches, so I expected it to be honest. I’m considering practicing with the Apple Pencil on the bare glass, but I always hate fighting an art tool to function the way I want. An art tool should be as natural as possible so I can focus on the creative side of art, not fighting the mechanical side of creating art. But maybe I can adjust. We’ll see.
Maybe Pen tips would be a good solution. They are tips you put on the tip of your Apple Pencil. i use them mainly for inking so i have more ontrol over my line work. I have made a video review about it and you can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/Km1WdiIXau0/v-deo.html
@@StayfDraws Thanks for the suggestion! Tbh, the tips seem like it would be an even worse issue for me. The dulled out pressure levels alone would get to me! But, we’ll see. I’ll possibly experiment around and find something that works for me, whether it be bare glass, tips, or going back to Paperlike. Thanks for the videos!
I have just ordered a iPad Pro and have been looking into “paper like” proctors. Of course the official Paperlike comes up the most. What protector do you use for the best art experience?
@@StayfDraws do you not use any protector or just one for the feeling? So can you recommend one that doesn't change anything but give a bit of protection to the screen?
I just draw on the screen without a screenprotector I have drawing on the iPad with the Apple Pencil since 2015 and never had a scratch. So I can not recommend a screenprotector
Another great and honest review. So tired of fake reviews for affiliate money. Having viewed about 2 other reviews of paperlike they all said the same as you. That it creates massive scratches. I don't think any product will be able to not do this as they are creating friction and think of what happens when you run your nail over sandpaper. You see marks. Nothing can prevent that. Its glass ( no scratches ) or matte (scratches)
You should check out magnetic screen protectors.. I think this is the ultimate solution because we can finally just use it when we want and then take it off
I own an iPad Pro 2020 12.9”, and i use the paper like 1. It doesn’t wear my Apple Pencil tips very much, but the pen tips from the Netherlands I’ve had to replace and all but give up using with it, as they are suscepitble to tearing at the tips quite often. I even got in contact with Mark from pen tips and he replaced the damaged ones, but i won’t be using them on the paper like much anymore.
This is probably going to sound rude, however that is not my intention but: How could something provide friction and texture but not wear down the pencil’s tip? I personally dont have actual brand name Paperlike, given how expensive it is, but I use Nillkin (I dont want to promote anything, but I feel people are going to ask, idk) which isnt the cheapest option either. It seems to wear down the pencil’s tip as much as Paperlike 1 does, which I believe to be expected from a product that is essentially “fancy high grit sandpaper screen protector for the iPad”. Again, how would there be sensible friction without wear either from the tip or from the protector? It is, to me, simple physics of the interaction between 2 materials’ hardness, no? That’s why diamonds are classified as “hard” and “the hardest material on Earth”, because if you were to rub it against something, the “something” wears out before the diamond.
Thanks for your reply and tip for another screen protector. The point I make is that there is no difference in using PaperLike 2 or drawing without it. There is no friction. That is PaperLike's unique selling point.
I was curious if paperlike would be good for my iPad and another thing I’ve seen people complaining about is that the colours that you would see on the iPad become dimmer
Personally I like the glass screen, but I have a screen protector on my phone and would like one on the iPad too. My last iPad. The 2018 mode, I had these super thin scratches that you could see under light that weren’t really an issue, but it brought out the OCD. I’m kind of looking into getting one for my iPad, but these matte screen ones seem to all kill the pencil tip.
@@accentontheoff not for matte screen. When lock down is over I’ll just go to one of the Chinese electronics guys in downtown Sydney. And just get a a regular protector on it that doesn’t deteriorate my Apple pencil
I have done some research on the paperlike, and I noticed that there were a lot of reviews like this. I didn't know ow that there was a paperlike 1 or 2, so this is very useful. It’s good to know that their previous product was good, but it’s sad that they have made it worse and not made anymore improvements.
@@warriorofaurora Paperlike 1 was designed with more friction than paperlike 2 causing nibs to wear down faster. Paperlike 2 they reduced the friction ( think of sandpaper) and so the nibs take longer to wear down but what still remains with 1 and 2 is scratches. Because its science. Go down to your local hardware store get a coarse sandpaper and a fine sandpaper. Take your fingernail and run it across it. Two things will happen with BOTH. Your nail will start to wear down ( sooner the coarse than the fine) and you will see scratches on the sandpaper. That's why all of these products don't work. The only way to not reduce the nib or get scratches is to use the product as it was intended... apple pencil on glass. That's it. I know it won't give that nice paperlike feel but right now that is the only way without getting scratches or nibs wearing down.
I had paperlike2 for like 8 hours, I liked the feeling while drawing but the clarity lost for me is intolerable I cant image what is paperlike 1 since it is worst. I am using Moshi now , not the same feeling but still has some tooth and you can use the ipad for stuff other than drawing .
I love my Paperlike1 and have a light touch so I haven’t worn down the Apple Pencil. When I first got the iPad, sometimes the glass feels like nails on chalkboard. Paperlike1 fixed that and created a pleasant drawing experience. The visual field took time to get used to but for me it’s a worthy trade. I didn’t know Paperlike2 would be so different!
Can you please tell me that Is getting scrach of your writing normal on screen protector to an ipad ? Or i should buy a new screen protector wich don't scrach while writing with apple pencil i am so worried about this It's been just 6 days using my new ipad and i got scrach of my own writting ,i can see my wriiting as scrach on the screen protector ,does scrach on screen protector affected lthe screen ?and i am not sure that is that protector of good quality or not i bought for 22000 INR from local shop but not sure about the brand Please give me suggestion i am so worried about this .
If you use an Apple Pencil on an iPad you should not get any scratches on the screen. The Apple Pencil and iPad are deigned that way. You only get scratches by using other materials on the iPad screen. I have been using iPads since the beginning and I never had any scratch on my screen. I never use screen protection.
I only used PaperLike for a few months. I work on the iPad Pro with an Apple Pencil without a screen protector since 2015. It is still the best experience to me.
What about the protection angle. Is a screen protector a necessity from that perspective. I called Apple and they said yes yes you need it, get one from the official site. But the site didn’t have any and I suspect they probably meant a case of some kind :)
I’m sorry that you had such a bad experience with your Paperlike. I, on the other hand LOVE my Paperlike 2. I’ve been using it on my iPad Pro 2020 12.9” since May 2020. I love the matte finish it gives off and the feel of paper simulation. I am a graphic designer who uses LumaFusion, Affinity Photo & Designer, Adobe Lightroom, Canva, Squarespace, Procreate & Notes. My Pen 2, tip never wore down, I replaced my worn down Paperlike 2 with a fresh sheet last month, I also ordered more for my wife’s brand new iPad Pro 2021 12.9” (I’m jealous). I don’t work for nor, have any stock in Paperlike. I heard about them through Ergo Josh a few years ago when I started using Procreate. I listened to him rave on about it for a year before I purchased it. Now, I don’t & can’t use my iPad Pro without Paperlike. Thank you for your review.
I think it's the other way around, the apple pen nibs should make an improvement. Apple pen should make more sturdy pen nib. Or the Paper Like should make/sell the more sturdy Apple pen nib replacement too as a companion for the Paper Like it self. So it's a bundle, the Paper Like + Apple pen nib. Get the idea?
@Telephassa Rose it would not, as the pressure is inside, that golden thingy u have there. The nib is kind of like a protector for that part and well part to draw write with as that golden thingy would be a pain to use xD
Ive been using the icarez matte screen protector... It was my 1st time using a matte screen protector... I habe been using it for over a month now and not even one scratch on it.. The colour noise is visible when holding the ipad close.. But at normal distance its not... I really love the look of the matte screen protector... But i just wish it ddnt dull the colours of the screen.. Its not a big difference and you get used to it after a few days.. But when u put it next to other screen you notice the washed colours...
Yes I used the same brand (iCarez) on an older iPad. Worked great. Have used for 6 years, drawing on it all the time. No scratches or issues. Now I Have a new iPad and couldn’t find the iCarez for the new one so am trying a random brand (cheaper), will see….
i'm quite concerned about its wear on the pencil. the paranoid person in me thinks it's just a scheme between paperlike and apple to generate loads from replacing pencil tips and the "screen protectors" that wear them down. likely not the case, but still, why should i bother? above that, when i took it off after it wouldn't adhere properly, it left a surface level scratch on my brand new m2 pro 11inch. tried to put the second one on and it was on the adhesive backwards (label said paperlike side but the stickers were reversed so it didn't come off the plastic and then a messy situation ensued). all in all, i guess i will just get my money back since it seems like either a major waste, a scheme, or both. not to mention, it's a huge drawback for artists if it at all affects hue and color. like why even bother using a high end pro apple product then? source: had product for 2 hours.
The main problem with trying to make it feel like pencil on paper is that pencils function by being destroyed by the paper which means the paper like will do the same
I don't like screen protectors, because most of them don't give me the smooth feeling of touching a glas screen. That's why I mostly remove them when they are pre-installed on a new smartphone. But for the iPad I would like to try a paperlike feeling when writing or sketching with my Apple pencil. But the danger of scratches on screen, unproper attachment of the screen protector, the consuming or destroying of the pencil tip (I am using Pencil 2nd gen. since the start in 2018 and it has still its first tip) prevents me from putting on a protector. Since I also use the iPad for consuming media I would like to maintain the color origin of the display and not watch movies on a matte protector. So, what I am looking for is a paperlike-like REMOVABLE screen protector that can be used when needed and removed when not. I found some in the web, for instance the magnetic screen protector from ESR. Does anybody have any experience with it? My concerns are scratches and the Pencil tips. Thanks!
Peoples are making this bigger problem than it really is. And paperlike is not screen protector its just for feel. I had paperlike on my ipad for a long time now and yes it has scratches but they are not in a way if you are not trying to find them. Its still way better to draw than without it. Some day i will change it to new but im not in hurry and my pen tips doesnt have noticeable wear. I bought new tips right away when i bought paperlike because evyrybody said your tips wear fast, but im still using the original tips without any problems.
There's a Korean study vlogger who uses a normal screen protector but wraps her pencil tip with washi tape to get that paper texture, and I thought that was genius.
Draw on regular paper (it is just like real paper) using ordinary pens and pencils. Then use the iPad camera to scan it in the iPad. it works and the scans can be used in whatever app you want. But I don't mind the feel of the Apple Pencil on the iPad screen directly.
I love my original paperlike. I use my ipad every day for my job (tattoo artist) most every tattoo artist I know has it and loves it. The tiny green/red light distortions are barely noticeable an only when the ipad is at certain angles. Also the tooth of it barely wears down my nibs but I also don’t press down very hard. Drawing straight on glass gives me the willys and the slight texture helps with smooth lines. If this paperlike 2 is less grip I would probably like it less. Maybe they should sell it in different grits. Anyway great product!
I don't get the Problems People have with it. I'm using it for over a Year on my IPad Pro and my Pen has still the same Nip and it works perfectly fine. Didn't use Paperlike 1 though.
I also was very disappointed with Paperlike 2 - it scratches faster and even the quality of the product has gotten worse - I had to get a replacement because mine came in damaged and the other one was cut uneven. It’s a real pity because as much as I loved Paperlike 1 personally, the light scattering was giving me a big headache after a while. At least their customer service is responsive and they are quick to send a refund but I will be on a lookout for a better screen protector since the asking price is not very great.
same goes to the paperlike screen protector, since it’s not any special except being more prone to scratches. i think the price should be competitive to the normal screen protector
Thanks Steef, ik twijfelde heel erg of ik misschien toch 34 euro moest uitgeven maar dat ga ik nu niet doen. Ik heb ook een ander merk geprobeerd. Meteen krassen en ik moest de tip vervangen. Ik denk dat ik het maar zonder blijf doen en hoop dat Apple ooit zelf met iets komt.
I used the paperlike and im convinced that they do no do any RnD at all haha. They probably just source some "new" sort of screen protector from china OEM market and they just market the hell out of it.
I love using the Moshi matte protector, no scratches, no pencil tip wear and you can remove it to wash and re-apply over and over
Can you pls tell me were to buy it and how much it costs?😊
I need the full name of the product 🤩
@@nguyenpeachie1268 It's the ivisor AG anti-glare from Moshi. It's in the comment right above yours with the link
I think you are missing the point here. People want PAPER LIKE protectors not just a protector. Of course any protector isn't going to scratch but ones that give you friction will. MOSHI is not paper like style so your comment really doesn't fit with this review
@@jm7720 Not everyone here wants paperlike protectors, many people have used those and stopped because they weren't for them just like me. I switched from paperlike to moshi and they have different options as well. their matte one almost feels like paper but does not wear out pencil tips.
I appreciate your Loyalty towards your Subscribers. ❤
I'm pretty sure any screen protector with with tooth to it is going to wear away at the pencil. The smoother the surface, the less tooth, and less friction to wear away at the pencil nib.
Yeah, I replaced my pencil nip before I realised it was my Paperlike screen protector that was wearing it down. I’m not heavy on my iPad and was surprised that it could do this. Great information. Thanks…
Try using letter sized clear acetate or view foils ( for those old enough to remember), it works really well and is dirt cheap. I just tape it on near the top and the clear material gives you just enough tooth for a realistic drawing feedback. The material is perfectly clear and does not leave a residue on your ipad screen. You can easily replace the vinyl or acetate since it is not stuck on. I have experimented with several materials with different feedback feel … just dig in your old art drawer and see what you can find ……….
Nice honest review. Do have any suggestions for other good "paper like" screen protectors, which give you the feel of drawing on paper on not wearing down the tip so fast?
Your observations are exactly like my experience with paperlike. Like you, I have both models used on two iPads with two pencils. The experience is completely different from the original model. Even the sound it made on the original paperlike was satisfying and the friction was more like ‘real paper’. I hope they can get this figured out on the next gen. Thanks!
should i buy paper like or look for another brand?
Have you tried the 2.1? Is it improved?
Thanks for that. I prefer to just become accustomed to the feel of the Apple Pencil on glass.
When you just start out drawing with the Apple Pencil, the pencil needs to adjust itself tou your touch. When you draw with it a little longer then the grip will get better.
I really loved my original Paperlike that I had years ago. It lasted for AGES. But when I got the iPad Pro 2020 and got the new Paperlike, it was scratched up the first day I used it! I also could never get all the air bubbles out. But when I got off-brand matte screen protectors, the bubbles came out fine and after several months (around a year, actually) no scratches. It’s starting to get a few spots around the edges that aren’t adhering to the iPad screen as much anymore, but I barely notice it unless I’m looking. It was a 2-pack like Paperlike, but half the price, so I still have one left.
sure but the point here is not about getting ANY screen protector. The point here is getting a screen protector that FEELS like paper.
@@jm7720 nothing will feel like paper if it's not paper.
@@aidanmcsweeney Then don't use the word paper in the ad. This company is very deceptive and ultimately people have proven its crap. It leaves tons of lines all over and wears down nibs. Cheaper to just buy paper than deal with this crap
@@jm7720 of course it's cheaper to just buy paper, that was never a question people were asking 😂
Thank you so much for the honest review and puttting your viewers on top than what they offered! Truly appreciated
Hi. I bought my iPad mini after a long time of not owning any tablets and bought paper-like after seeing good reviews on it. I like how it stops glare in the screen but I hate how it makes it hard for the ipad to sense my fingers and prevents me from swiping, and zooming in or out when using the Sketchbook app
Thanks for the honest feedback!
I thought I was the only one with this experience.
I’ll be keeping mine on as I can tell the difference between drawing with it on and without it.
I just miss the paper sound and feel.
I do appreciate that it’s less ‘blurry’ then the first one.
you can get magnetic attached screen layer for drawing, and simply remove it once you are finished.
Where?
which one do you like?
Where??
following
Its written in the replies of the top comment
I recently bought the new M1 iPad Pro 12.9 inches and also Paperlike 2. I can't say anything about wear on the tip or anything like that because I've only had it for 3 weeks. However, I immediately noticed that the paperlike creates an extreme rainbow effect. I think that Paperlike 2 is not really mature in combination with the new display, so I would definitely advise against this combination as it makes the new display almost completely redundant.
P.s. Thank you for your honest and authentic review, I discovered you through this video and will definitely check out the others too.
Greetings from Austria
I looked at your Amazon thing and can’t find which screen protector you DO recommend
I do not recommend any screen protector.
thank you for this video. i have a question, im going to buy a new ipad and pencil 2. i want to draw. should i buy anything else as accessory? for example, im seeing a lot of pencil tips on amazon. do you recommend?
Just buy the iPad and Apple Pencil. I tried many different tips, but the original tips are the best.
I just purchased an IPad Pro 4th Gen 12.9 inch, along with PaperLike 2. After watching your video, I'm a little nervous, because your review was with the most recent IPad Pro (correct me if I'm wrong). Nevertheless, I'm gonna apply it and see if any of your points are obvious. I too have enjoyed PaperLIke 1 on both my IPad Pros (11 & 12.9 3rd Gen). It's the reason why I immediately purchased it for my new tablet.
Thanks for this truly honest review. It was very well thought out and presented. By the way, I am a Writer & Copy Editor, so much of what I do deals with writing.
This is my personal experience with PaperLike 2. It all depends on the way you use your Apple Pencil and with what strength you apply it. Let me know what your experience is when you use it.
Great review Stayf! Love the honesty
Glad you found it useful.
I noticed that the colors are different with the paperlike screen protector especially with the iPad Pro 2021. Also, you are absolutely right the texture from the paperlike 1 to Paperlike 2 is completely different. Paperlike 2 almost feels like a plastic wax surface.
Thanks for the thorough and timely advice. You saved me 40 bucks!
Thanks for the review. I have never used a Paperlike but I have another type of matte screen protector on my iPad and I would not use the Apple Pencil without it. Writing or drawing on the glass screen feels horrible. I considered getting a Paperlike when I got the iPad but almost every tech UA-cam seemed to be sponsored by Paperlike and I didn't really trust any of the "reviews" out there so I skipped it. An example perhaps of a companies aggressive marketing backfiring if only in the case of one potential customer.
Mind sharing the other brand of your screen protector?
@@anadavalos3212 It’s an Icarez that I picked up on Amazon. I got it got my iPad Pro, I don’t know if they have one for every iPad size out there.
I think I may go the cheaper option and replace periodically. hoping that helps somewhat
My experience with Paperlike 2 is like yours. It doesn't provide a paper-like feel for the Apple Pencil. So, what's the point other than being a screen protector. But that's why I have a cover for my iPad.
I got paper like 2. Disappointed with the obvious wear on the screen protector after only a week of use. Returning. I do like the matte finish. Any other better products?
sir ,so which screen protector you are using ? love from india ❤️
I am not using any screenprotector.
@@StayfDraws sir, i am a student and i always make my notes in my ipad , which screen protector will be the best for me ?
@@RiddleRealmDK I can not give you advise, because I don’t use them. But buy cheaper ones than PaperLike.
@@StayfDraws how long have u been using ur ipad without screen protector and did it got any scratches without any screen protector????
@@animatrix3157 I used my iPad Pro with the Apple Pencil and never used a screen protector. There are no scratches. I only tested PaperLike on my 2015 iPad for a month to test it out. To me there is no difference. So I removed it. I have drawing on my newer iPad Pro since 2018 evert day and it has no scratches.
I was so let down by Paperlike - it feels nothing like paper and the scratches are unbearable. What do you recommend?
I recommend no screen protector. Just draw on the iPad screen. That is what i have been doing all along. It just getting used to the feeling of drawing on a smooth surface. When you draw longer the Apple Pencil will set to your drawing style and gets a little bit of a grid.
@@StayfDraws no no, absolutely not.
Buy a screen protector, if you are unlucky enough to get any small amount of grit or particles on the screen and the pencil catches it, it will scratch the screen.
Buy a screen protector.
Appreciate the review. I do like paperlike1. I’d rather replace nibs more often in exchange for the toothier structure. I also keep a little spray bottle with me to make sure the surface is free of oil from my palm as the surface gets slippery easily when the oils accumulate.
From what you’ve deduced, I’m pretty sure I’d prefer the toothier surface of paperlike1 vs 2.
That being said I haven’t tried any other matt screen protectors that may or may not be better.
So for now I enjoy the first iteration.
Thanks again and I always enjoy your videos!
Thanks for your comment. Everyone has a different experience with products. Do you use it for drawing or writing?
I’m on my second paperlike2 in under a month, I hate the product, it’s full of scratches on the screen, I have contacted them and they are sending a replacement but I’ve ordered anther brand and I won’t be using paperlike again. Thanx for your review.
Good honest review. To be honest, I’ve used Paperlike2 on my iPad for months and I’ve loved it. I feel a good amount of friction vs the bare glass.
I found this video though because I’ve been looking at screen protectors for the new iPad Pro M1 with XDR, and I wanted to see what options are available today.
I love the Paperlike for drawing which I primarily use my iPad for, but with the XDR screen, I feel sad about putting any matte screen protector on it because it will decrease the quality of the XDR display which feels like a shame.
So I’m a bit torn.
My Paperlike2 protector is functionally great, I’m satisfied with it, but it DOES dull the colors. The scratches it picks up is reminiscent to how my Wacom devices have picked up scratches, so I expected it to be honest.
I’m considering practicing with the Apple Pencil on the bare glass, but I always hate fighting an art tool to function the way I want. An art tool should be as natural as possible so I can focus on the creative side of art, not fighting the mechanical side of creating art.
But maybe I can adjust. We’ll see.
Maybe Pen tips would be a good solution. They are tips you put on the tip of your Apple Pencil. i use them mainly for inking so i have more ontrol over my line work. I have made a video review about it and you can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/Km1WdiIXau0/v-deo.html
@@StayfDraws Thanks for the suggestion! Tbh, the tips seem like it would be an even worse issue for me. The dulled out pressure levels alone would get to me!
But, we’ll see. I’ll possibly experiment around and find something that works for me, whether it be bare glass, tips, or going back to Paperlike.
Thanks for the videos!
@@ketowolf did you find something that works for you or you just use bare glass?
I have just ordered a iPad Pro and have been looking into “paper like” proctors. Of course the official Paperlike comes up the most. What protector do you use for the best art experience?
I don’t use a screen protector. When you start drawing with a new Apple Pencil tip it needs to set to the way you draw. Then it becomes less slippery.
@@StayfDraws do you not use any protector or just one for the feeling? So can you recommend one that doesn't change anything but give a bit of protection to the screen?
I just draw on the screen without a screenprotector I have drawing on the iPad with the Apple Pencil since 2015 and never had a scratch. So I can not recommend a screenprotector
@@StayfDraws Thanks. The new iPad arrives tomorrow. I will give it a go with the naked screen.
Another great and honest review. So tired of fake reviews for affiliate money. Having viewed about 2 other reviews of paperlike they all said the same as you. That it creates massive scratches. I don't think any product will be able to not do this as they are creating friction and think of what happens when you run your nail over sandpaper. You see marks. Nothing can prevent that. Its glass ( no scratches ) or matte (scratches)
Have you ever tried the 2.1? Wondering if it resolves the issues you mentioned about 2.0
I have not tried it. I prefer drawing without a screen protector.
You should check out magnetic screen protectors.. I think this is the ultimate solution because we can finally just use it when we want and then take it off
Do you have a brand you recommend?
I own an iPad Pro 2020 12.9”, and i use the paper like 1. It doesn’t wear my Apple Pencil tips very much, but the pen tips from the Netherlands I’ve had to replace and all but give up using with it, as they are suscepitble to tearing at the tips quite often. I even got in contact with Mark from pen tips and he replaced the damaged ones, but i won’t be using them on the paper like much anymore.
This is probably going to sound rude, however that is not my intention but:
How could something provide friction and texture but not wear down the pencil’s tip?
I personally dont have actual brand name Paperlike, given how expensive it is, but I use Nillkin (I dont want to promote anything, but I feel people are going to ask, idk) which isnt the cheapest option either. It seems to wear down the pencil’s tip as much as Paperlike 1 does, which I believe to be expected from a product that is essentially “fancy high grit sandpaper screen protector for the iPad”.
Again, how would there be sensible friction without wear either from the tip or from the protector? It is, to me, simple physics of the interaction between 2 materials’ hardness, no? That’s why diamonds are classified as “hard” and “the hardest material on Earth”, because if you were to rub it against something, the “something” wears out before the diamond.
Thanks for your reply and tip for another screen protector. The point I make is that there is no difference in using PaperLike 2 or drawing without it. There is no friction. That is PaperLike's unique selling point.
I was curious if paperlike would be good for my iPad and another thing I’ve seen people complaining about is that the colours that you would see on the iPad become dimmer
Just don’t see the point. I recommend people just learn to get used to drawing on glass, and stop ruining the exquisite IPad screen.
Personally I like the glass screen, but I have a screen protector on my phone and would like one on the iPad too. My last iPad. The 2018 mode, I had these super thin scratches that you could see under light that weren’t really an issue, but it brought out the OCD.
I’m kind of looking into getting one for my iPad, but these matte screen ones seem to all kill the pencil tip.
@@sloppynyuszi Do you have any reccomendation.
@@sloppynyuszi then use a glass screen protector ha
@@pickleeggs3340 that’s what I’m going to do.
@@accentontheoff not for matte screen. When lock down is over I’ll just go to one of the Chinese electronics guys in downtown Sydney. And just get a a regular protector on it that doesn’t deteriorate my Apple pencil
I have done some research on the paperlike, and I noticed that there were a lot of reviews like this. I didn't know ow that there was a paperlike 1 or 2, so this is very useful.
It’s good to know that their previous product was good, but it’s sad that they have made it worse and not made anymore improvements.
Well the previous product wasn't good. It created even more scratches. So no
@@jm7720 oh I didn’t know I. What do you mean by even more scratches though?
@@warriorofaurora Paperlike 1 was designed with more friction than paperlike 2 causing nibs to wear down faster. Paperlike 2 they reduced the friction ( think of sandpaper) and so the nibs take longer to wear down but what still remains with 1 and 2 is scratches. Because its science. Go down to your local hardware store get a coarse sandpaper and a fine sandpaper. Take your fingernail and run it across it. Two things will happen with BOTH. Your nail will start to wear down ( sooner the coarse than the fine) and you will see scratches on the sandpaper. That's why all of these products don't work. The only way to not reduce the nib or get scratches is to use the product as it was intended... apple pencil on glass. That's it. I know it won't give that nice paperlike feel but right now that is the only way without getting scratches or nibs wearing down.
@@jm7720 ohhh ok, I didn’t know that the paper like 1 was courser. Thank you :D
I had paperlike2 for like 8 hours, I liked the feeling while drawing but the clarity lost for me is intolerable I cant image what is paperlike 1 since it is worst. I am using Moshi now , not the same feeling but still has some tooth and you can use the ipad for stuff other than drawing .
If i use paperlike just to write not drawing, will it be scratched easily?
What screen protector should I buy?
You don’t need one. Just don’t scratch it with sharp objects.
@@StayfDraws wow? really
esr paperfeel if you like more natural paper feeling
@@M1L31 but the pen tip will need replacement in months?
@@LIGHTISBURNING it depends how much you use it.
I love my Paperlike1 and have a light touch so I haven’t worn down the Apple Pencil. When I first got the iPad, sometimes the glass feels like nails on chalkboard. Paperlike1 fixed that and created a pleasant drawing experience. The visual field took time to get used to but for me it’s a worthy trade. I didn’t know Paperlike2 would be so different!
Appreciate the honesty! Thanks!
What can you recommend as an alternative? to protect the screen from micro scratches.
search for reviews of alternatives
Ive been using the bellamond for 6 months now. My pencil tip is as new and the screen has practically no scratches
@@Laura155204 ur so cute
@@Laura155204 I've watched review on their screen protector. Might have to go with them.
How come no one mentioned that after few months there is no texture at all on the surface of paper like? It is my 6 one and last (150$).
Thank you so much for this informational video!!
Can you please tell me that
Is getting scrach of your writing normal on screen protector to an ipad ? Or i should buy a new screen protector wich don't scrach while writing with apple pencil i am so worried about this
It's been just 6 days using my new ipad and i got scrach of my own writting ,i can see my wriiting as scrach on the screen protector ,does scrach on screen protector affected lthe screen ?and i am not sure that is that protector of good quality or not i bought for 22000 INR from local shop but not sure about the brand Please give me suggestion i am so worried about this .
If you use an Apple Pencil on an iPad you should not get any scratches on the screen. The Apple Pencil and iPad are deigned that way. You only get scratches by using other materials on the iPad screen. I have been using iPads since the beginning and I never had any scratch on my screen. I never use screen protection.
@@StayfDraws I had use the screen protector and got my writing as scratch on the protector .does this harms my ipad screen ?
Then which screen cover would you recommend?
We appreciate your review
thanks!
Thank you - great, useful information.
You are welcome!
So, any long term experience on drawing without screen protector people ? ( i've just got an ipad air 4th) , thank you
I only used PaperLike for a few months. I work on the iPad Pro with an Apple Pencil without a screen protector since 2015. It is still the best experience to me.
What about the protection angle. Is a screen protector a necessity from that perspective. I called Apple and they said yes yes you need it, get one from the official site. But the site didn’t have any and I suspect they probably meant a case of some kind :)
I’ve noticed on their site there is no mention of 1 or 2 it’s just Paperlike! Anyone know which product they now actually sell?
I’m sorry that you had such a bad experience with your Paperlike. I, on the other hand LOVE my Paperlike 2. I’ve been using it on my iPad Pro 2020 12.9” since May 2020. I love the matte finish it gives off and the feel of paper simulation. I am a graphic designer who uses LumaFusion, Affinity Photo & Designer, Adobe Lightroom, Canva, Squarespace, Procreate & Notes. My Pen 2, tip never wore down, I replaced my worn down Paperlike 2 with a fresh sheet last month, I also ordered more for my wife’s brand new iPad Pro 2021 12.9” (I’m jealous). I don’t work for nor, have any stock in Paperlike. I heard about them through Ergo Josh a few years ago when I started using Procreate. I listened to him rave on about it for a year before I purchased it. Now, I don’t & can’t use my iPad Pro without Paperlike. Thank you for your review.
I think it's the other way around, the apple pen nibs should make an improvement. Apple pen should make more sturdy pen nib. Or the Paper Like should make/sell the more sturdy Apple pen nib replacement too as a companion for the Paper Like it self. So it's a bundle, the Paper Like + Apple pen nib. Get the idea?
@Telephassa Rose it would not, as the pressure is inside, that golden thingy u have there. The nib is kind of like a protector for that part and well part to draw write with as that golden thingy would be a pain to use xD
Ive used paperlike for over a year. No problems at. My apple pencil still has the original tip from 2018.
So in conclusion, what screen protector do you end up using?
Ive been using the icarez matte screen protector... It was my 1st time using a matte screen protector... I habe been using it for over a month now and not even one scratch on it.. The colour noise is visible when holding the ipad close.. But at normal distance its not... I really love the look of the matte screen protector... But i just wish it ddnt dull the colours of the screen.. Its not a big difference and you get used to it after a few days.. But when u put it next to other screen you notice the washed colours...
Yes I used the same brand (iCarez) on an older iPad. Worked great. Have used for 6 years, drawing on it all the time. No scratches or issues. Now I Have a new iPad and couldn’t find the iCarez for the new one so am trying a random brand (cheaper), will see….
I have bought both just received the new stuff. Very unhappy with it . No resistance so its just like drawing on the glass.
Try ELECOM Pencil-Feel Screen. It’s more like paper and it does not scratch.
I feel like the paperlike wears off almost immediatly. I have used it for less than a day and it feels uneven
Because they stopped sponsoring you?
Cool. I thought you died at the end of Die Hard.
How did you remove the cover?
Just rip it off
$34!!!!!!!! HOW LOL
Which one would you choose: 10 paperlike or 1 iPad
Sabes de sitios donde vendan accesorios para Ipad?
What about 2.1 ? :o
i'm quite concerned about its wear on the pencil. the paranoid person in me thinks it's just a scheme between paperlike and apple to generate loads from replacing pencil tips and the "screen protectors" that wear them down. likely not the case, but still, why should i bother? above that, when i took it off after it wouldn't adhere properly, it left a surface level scratch on my brand new m2 pro 11inch. tried to put the second one on and it was on the adhesive backwards (label said paperlike side but the stickers were reversed so it didn't come off the plastic and then a messy situation ensued). all in all, i guess i will just get my money back since it seems like either a major waste, a scheme, or both. not to mention, it's a huge drawback for artists if it at all affects hue and color. like why even bother using a high end pro apple product then?
source: had product for 2 hours.
The main problem with trying to make it feel like pencil on paper is that pencils function by being destroyed by the paper which means the paper like will do the same
Thanks for a very fine video. I am a new subscriber.
Should have seen this video before ordering mine. Still thank you.
I don't like screen protectors, because most of them don't give me the smooth feeling of touching a glas screen. That's why I mostly remove them when they are pre-installed on a new smartphone.
But for the iPad I would like to try a paperlike feeling when writing or sketching with my Apple pencil. But the danger of scratches on screen, unproper attachment of the screen protector, the consuming or destroying of the pencil tip (I am using Pencil 2nd gen. since the start in 2018 and it has still its first tip) prevents me from putting on a protector.
Since I also use the iPad for consuming media I would like to maintain the color origin of the display and not watch movies on a matte protector.
So, what I am looking for is a paperlike-like REMOVABLE screen protector that can be used when needed and removed when not.
I found some in the web, for instance the magnetic screen protector from ESR. Does anybody have any experience with it? My concerns are scratches and the Pencil tips.
Thanks!
Peoples are making this bigger problem than it really is. And paperlike is not screen protector its just for feel. I had paperlike on my ipad for a long time now and yes it has scratches but they are not in a way if you are not trying to find them. Its still way better to draw than without it. Some day i will change it to new but im not in hurry and my pen tips doesnt have noticeable wear. I bought new tips right away when i bought paperlike because evyrybody said your tips wear fast, but im still using the original tips without any problems.
There's a Korean study vlogger who uses a normal screen protector but wraps her pencil tip with washi tape to get that paper texture, and I thought that was genius.
what's her channel name?
Great review
Draw on regular paper (it is just like real paper) using ordinary pens and pencils. Then use the iPad camera to scan it in the iPad. it works and the scans can be used in whatever app you want. But I don't mind the feel of the Apple Pencil on the iPad screen directly.
You have the best solution. You can try the stuff that tries to act like paper or use paper which IS paper.
Thank you for your video :)
I love my original paperlike. I use my ipad every day for my job (tattoo artist) most every tattoo artist I know has it and loves it. The tiny green/red light distortions are barely noticeable an only when the ipad is at certain angles. Also the tooth of it barely wears down my nibs but I also don’t press down very hard. Drawing straight on glass gives me the willys and the slight texture helps with smooth lines. If this paperlike 2 is less grip I would probably like it less. Maybe they should sell it in different grits. Anyway great product!
Such a cool job!
I don't get the Problems People have with it. I'm using it for over a Year on my IPad Pro and my Pen has still the same Nip and it works perfectly fine. Didn't use Paperlike 1 though.
I had the same results as you did.
You made not buying it and wasting my money. Thank you very much. There is a lot of people complaining about it too. I dont trust this product
Thats why my apple pencil and microsoft pen tips are wearing down so fast...
I also was very disappointed with Paperlike 2 - it scratches faster and even the quality of the product has gotten worse - I had to get a replacement because mine came in damaged and the other one was cut uneven. It’s a real pity because as much as I loved Paperlike 1 personally, the light scattering was giving me a big headache after a while. At least their customer service is responsive and they are quick to send a refund but I will be on a lookout for a better screen protector since the asking price is not very great.
If i use paperlike just to write not drawing, will it be scratched easily?
I bought it and I’m so torn because it’s made me so much neater but it ruined my pen tip.
Useful
Tried it two times and both of them I was disappointed
I didn’t even like Paperlike 1. I hated the way it dulled my screen and I took it off after 5mins and I just draw directly on the glass now. 🤷🏿♀️
The easy solution is to quit using paper at all and there will be no missing of the paper feel.
Yeah I see no need to use Paperlike since Im so used to the iPad screen anyway. The cons very much outweigh the pros.
Pencil and paper will always be better than any ipads. Nothing can replace analog feel.
@@mikedabro1084 Dude, plastic on glass/plastic is analog, in terms of feel.
what a dumb statement
Can anyone tell me how to remove it?
Just pull it off
problem is not with paperlike, even normal pencil tips get degraded when drawn on paper. apple pencil tips should be cheaper, thts what is needed
same goes to the paperlike screen protector, since it’s not any special except being more prone to scratches. i think the price should be competitive to the normal screen protector
Thanks Steef, ik twijfelde heel erg of ik misschien toch 34 euro moest uitgeven maar dat ga ik nu niet doen. Ik heb ook een ander merk geprobeerd. Meteen krassen en ik moest de tip vervangen. Ik denk dat ik het maar zonder blijf doen en hoop dat Apple ooit zelf met iets komt.
4:27 i love this digital painting! Why do other digital artists draw only in cartoony style, why have everybody forgotten about realism?
Dutch Master!
I used the paperlike and im convinced that they do no do any RnD at all haha. They probably just source some "new" sort of screen protector from china OEM market and they just market the hell out of it.
They probably do
Paper like ruins your pencil and the pencil ruins your screen protector
Are you Dutch... Me too
people paying £35 for this when you can buy one for £5 and feel exactly the same.
This product i sure ly made from china just 5$ and they sell 34$, way too expensive
Paperlike and any other screen protectors are more or less scams by sponsored UA-camrs.
“Doodles?” For realsies? :p
If you want tooth something is going to swear down pencil or screen. That's just physics.
just downvote any youtuber that shills paperlike