Mike, these videos are priceless. Appreciate your time and the guys that work with you doing all this for us. There is a cost to this and it is from your bottom line. So a big thank you for making each and every video a school day.
I was gonna say Mike, you'll be two months behind if you keep doing so much awesome stuff! Now I see you're doing some 12 hour uploads! Awesome! Thanks a lot !
One thing to keep in mind folks is that based on the increase in speed of the 1167 when setting the manual lugging mode to 4%, shown in the 1167 protilling video, I would think the 1167 could do a much better run even than it did. Putting it at 4% vs "Auto" increased the speed by nearly 1 mph, Which is a shock to me since I didn't experience that much difference when using this tractor for deep ripping.
Pretty cool to see most of the guys on the farm participate in theses tests I’m sure there where things that you should have all been doing glad everyone could have a little fun with it thanks Mike and gang!
ONCE upon a time, a farmer wanted to have some fun and we all thought it would be a battle between brands. At the end we were really surprised that it turned out to be battle between drive train design: Lean two track design vs. complex four track. What is the message at the end: if two wheel drive will do the job, do not buy a four wheel drive car. 😁
Well that was a surprise! How did it beat the bigger Johnny?? Mike what you said about pulling drills up hills put it all into perspective.It seems the results would be much different if they were pulling something bigger.It's all very interesting
the fentit off the start did hit 11m.p.h,when got going the jd kept a faster speed.bring back good memory's hooking up ass end to ass ends of tractors and pulling.Thanks that was fun.
What! This is unexpected! Did you do a pm release instead of an am release on accident? Edit: OK I see now, new release every 12 hours till you're caught up. I'm going to exercise some EXTREME discipline and only watch one in the morning like I normally do. That way I can extend my morning routine. Mike, I'll tell you what it's been awesome having a video of yours to watch every morning with my coffee. Mike Mitchell in the morning with coffee and a Farming Fixing and Fabricating video for in the evening with dinner.
Just as an FYI when you start the Fendt 1167 it is .5 sec after the the cone drops until the tractor moves. The 9620RX is at least 4 sec and the 9560RT is 3.5 before the tractor moves.
True, but then you could also play around with the Fendts settings. Mike got nearly one extra mph out of it by just setting the manual lugging mode to 4% in the previous tractorshootout video. In the drag race, he drove it in auto mode. One mph would be nearly 15 seconds.
As long as the playing field is identical for every pass, it's more accurate. I bet the 1050 will be the fastest. Tires often are faster then tracks. But it also depends on the surface and how much weight it needs to pull. I wonder if the old Fergie will even pull this protill
A lower horsepower 2 track will always out pull a higher hp 4 track them 2 tracks the power goes from the engine to the rear ends where 4 track the power has to turn directions to many times before it gets to the ground.
Same. The Quad 620 shifts quicker than the RX and has a little more jam and no HP loss to CVT (1167). Bet it would win the competition with a 2:30 or less…
@@calebrozeboom Hmph, I didn’t know that. 🤔 That’s odd, and doesn’t sound right in “real world” settings. I’ve got the feeling a 9520R would’ve beaten the 1050 in Mike’s pull-off rather handily.
None of that crap matters in this “drag race” style test. The reason the Deere’s came out on top is because they have more RPM. You can’t pull fast with 1600rpm like the fendts operate at.
The 9560RT was operating at a bit of a disadvantage. (1) The cleats seemed to be showing more wear than the other tracks/tires. (2) The cleats were filled with more mud than the other tracks/tires.
Yes of course! Usually the wear pattern is not homogeneous, the power transmission efficiency is reduced a little because the contact area is smaller, they are usually changed for safety reasons and conservation of the large number of moving parts that the tracks have.
Mike if you really wanna make that old 9560 embarrass those newer ones take the computer off and have it tuned with an extra 50hp and delete the DPF and egr. I did it to mine and it made it a whole new animal
That Johnny popper did pretty good for being 1xx hp less then anything else, would really like to know what the 620 jd 2 track has for a comparison against the 1167 fendt
True. Although the Fendt 1162 and 1167 have the same pulling power. The 1167 has 55 additional hp for the PTO and hydraulics. It uses 620hp for the drivetrain. But that’s still a 60hp difference. That 9560RT really is pulling hard.
Ah Mike. speed an efficiency go hand in hand. Acres per hour and gallons per hour gives you gallons per acre. So just speed is only part of the story. I think that you would have had a better result by running in efficiency manager mode in all tractors. Especially in the John Deere's.
The reason it's faster then 9620rx is because it's pre Def. A 500 hp pre emission engine pulls like a 600hp emissions engine. Cause the SCR, EGR, DPF and DEF emission system's robs at least 100hp from those engines. I know the 560 has EGR but it's still sort of pre emission. So even though the 9620rx quad has a power bulge that boosts it to 670hp it still only pulls like a 570hp pre emission motor, like the one in the 2 track.
Y'all see the jet the fly over about half way thru, was going to say it was a mig 29,but that would have been b.s. ok 5:05 maybe it was his brother blowing the soot out of his turbine crop duster, you can tell it has fixed landing gear.
You are basically trying to measure drawbar power. You could easily do this in a more consistent manner by measuring draw bar pull using a hydraulic cylinder with a pressure sensor as a link between the tractor and the implement and multiplying that by the tractor speed. (Power = pull x speed). Would be pretty easy to set up with the ISOBus to automate everything.
Mike. We all would be good with a 24/7 channel. But 1 every 12 hrs is pretty good too.
If Mike says he is just having fun you better believe him when he gets in the tractor and leaves his shoes on! We all know shoes off = work mode.
I like those videos though.👍
When mark said “we’d have more traction if we turned the tracks inside out” that made me laugh😂😂
Nobdoy else does shit like this. That’s how u make a good UA-cam channel right there ladies and gentlemen
Two videos in one day awesome.
Thanks for making these videos. You're the best farmtuber online. Mike we appreciate you!
What?????? A Mike vid with my morning coffee, and with my night cap....Life is GOOOOOOOD
That old two track was givin it the business!
That ole 9560 is no joke!! even with worn out tracks she was pullin hard!!
Hey a video at night that is a first.
Mike, these videos are priceless. Appreciate your time and the guys that work with you doing all this for us. There is a cost to this and it is from your bottom line. So a big thank you for making each and every video a school day.
Hey these two videos a day are awesome.
Mike, if you had to choose one of the tractors which would you choose?
Wow what a surprise! 2 Mike Mitchell videos in the same day!
I was gonna say Mike, you'll be two months behind if you keep doing so much awesome stuff! Now I see you're doing some 12 hour uploads! Awesome! Thanks a lot !
One thing to keep in mind folks is that based on the increase in speed of the 1167 when setting the manual lugging mode to 4%, shown in the 1167 protilling video, I would think the 1167 could do a much better run even than it did. Putting it at 4% vs "Auto" increased the speed by nearly 1 mph, Which is a shock to me since I didn't experience that much difference when using this tractor for deep ripping.
How long did it take to do the maf
Great series thank you for taking the time to do this.
Pretty cool to see most of the guys on the farm participate in theses tests I’m sure there where things that you should have all been doing glad everyone could have a little fun with it thanks Mike and gang!
Impressive showing from the 560.
Hey Mike now your doing it more videos for us to see you playing with your toy's sure having fun watching you playing with your toy's LOL.
Lee goes down that ladder like a boss 🤘
ONCE upon a time, a farmer wanted to have some fun and we all thought it would be a battle between brands. At the end we were really surprised that it turned out to be battle between drive train design: Lean two track design vs. complex four track. What is the message at the end: if two wheel drive will do the job, do not buy a four wheel drive car. 😁
Jeez that non def engine pulls huh! Still rooting for the fendt 1167 tho thats a sweet ride....
great video mike, i’m not surprised how the JD two track pulled, takes less power to turn two tracks vs. four at higher speeds
Thanks for sharing Mike!
Well that was a surprise! How did it beat the bigger Johnny??
Mike what you said about pulling drills up hills put it all into perspective.It seems the results would be much different if they were pulling something bigger.It's all very interesting
Love how you have fun with your equipment and make great videos
a bedtime surprise! thanks mike
Love the two vidioes in one day awesome love watching
Great Mike Mitchell Shoot out Video, thanks for sharing
What a surprising outcome especially with worn tracks. Great job on the shootout guys!
2 videos in one day let’s go!
the fentit off the start did hit 11m.p.h,when got going the jd kept a faster speed.bring back good memory's hooking up ass end to ass ends of tractors and pulling.Thanks that was fun.
Now life is great
Two videos from Mike in one day
Mike, great videos, and I had fun watching.👍👍
That old deere pulled really nice
Man,that thing is flying!
Love the video two videos a day
These comparisons are great
This race is waaaay more interesting than f1!
I was impressed with the jd 2track.. seemed to hang in there pretty good! (Im still cheering for the fent)
Same. I'm a big Fendt guy, but this thing pulled like a beast.
The higher RPM of the Deere allowed it to out pull the fendt
Great stuff Mike, I share the fun🤣🤣🤣🎉
You gotta phonecall Mike.😉
What! This is unexpected! Did you do a pm release instead of an am release on accident?
Edit: OK I see now, new release every 12 hours till you're caught up. I'm going to exercise some EXTREME discipline and only watch one in the morning like I normally do. That way I can extend my morning routine. Mike, I'll tell you what it's been awesome having a video of yours to watch every morning with my coffee. Mike Mitchell in the morning with coffee and a Farming Fixing and Fabricating video for in the evening with dinner.
This is like the tractor Olympics farming style.
In the description he says new video very 12 hour before you know it Mike will be doing hourly uploads.
Just as an FYI when you start the Fendt 1167 it is .5 sec after the the cone drops until the tractor moves. The 9620RX is at least 4 sec and the 9560RT is 3.5 before the tractor moves.
True, but then you could also play around with the Fendts settings. Mike got nearly one extra mph out of it by just setting the manual lugging mode to 4% in the previous tractorshootout video. In the drag race, he drove it in auto mode. One mph would be nearly 15 seconds.
As long as the playing field is identical for every pass, it's more accurate. I bet the 1050 will be the fastest. Tires often are faster then tracks. But it also depends on the surface and how much weight it needs to pull. I wonder if the old Fergie will even pull this protill
Woo hoo 2 videos in one day Christmas in July 😄
Mike’s here just to have fun and we’re here just to have fun 🥳😊🌈
Thanks Mike!
this is freaking awesome, thank you mike and team! can't wait to see the drone footage!!!
A lower horsepower 2 track will always out pull a higher hp 4 track them 2 tracks the power goes from the engine to the rear ends where 4 track the power has to turn directions to many times before it gets to the ground.
Lol. Got to have your seatbelt on. Great series!
Damn that plane was hauling ass
Great stuff Mike, thank you for the enormous effort you put in.
We all know who the real stars of this shootout is, it's the pit crew of cause :)
Great vid, Mike. Lovin the shootout. What is the cable for on the front of the Deeres?
Thanks! They are there in case they need to be pulled out
you got to remember the 4 trac took 10 sec before it shifted into 1st gear..
Im very impressed at how well the JD RT9560 pulled the protill. I would have never guessed.
RPM. Those fendts don’t have enough RPM to pull fast. It doesn’t matter if the fendt has a low torque curve
hope you run the Fendt 1167 again didn't seem like a good run!
The Deere with +4000 hours+ slick tracks is only 2'' (Next video) slower than a brand new Fendt. That says it all......
How's the durability of two track with one drive axle, one set of belts, and steering clutches compare to the 4 track?
Something tells me the might be getting a 1167
The time keeper looks like he could be your brother
Sure would like to see a case quad out there!!
Same. The Quad 620 shifts quicker than the RX and has a little more jam and no HP loss to CVT (1167). Bet it would win the competition with a 2:30 or less…
@@happycanayjian1582 so looking at hp Loss from a cvt why does a 1050 put more power to the ground than a 9520r according to Nebraska tests 🤔
@@calebrozeboom Hmph, I didn’t know that. 🤔 That’s odd, and doesn’t sound right in “real world” settings. I’ve got the feeling a 9520R would’ve beaten the 1050 in Mike’s pull-off rather handily.
None of that crap matters in this “drag race” style test. The reason the Deere’s came out on top is because they have more RPM. You can’t pull fast with 1600rpm like the fendts operate at.
@@calebrozeboomit doesn't
ooohh. We were treated to a double upload. Nice
Good evening
Please can you report the fuel flow of the RT and the 1167 because they pull so close it would be interesting to see which is more efficient?
Yah that’s unique
Then the 1050 actually wins by some miracle, of course that's not happening.
Thanks for the content Mike, I am a silent watcher that enjoys your content.
Mike I have questions do you like putting theses tractors through the test? And I appreciate you doing this!! Let’s see what this puppy will do. lol
can you not get the 4 track with a JD engine vs the Cummins ? might make a difference
Will there be final summary inc cost of each tractor and warranty etc....
Yugo 2 from Mic😂❤
Ole Massey should also give her a try.
The 9560RT was operating at a bit of a disadvantage. (1) The cleats seemed to be showing more wear than the other tracks/tires. (2) The cleats were filled with more mud than the other tracks/tires.
Two vids in one day?!?!?
Mike, are you planning on braking the internet?
Haha 🤣🤫
Did the RT ever drop below 9.0mph? The 1167 did as well as the RX.
Mike I liked e to see the video before you edit them with the bloopers and all. I’m still gonna watch your videos either way.
Does the amount of tread left on the tracks make a significant difference at a certain point of wear?
Yes of course! Usually the wear pattern is not homogeneous, the power transmission efficiency is reduced a little because the contact area is smaller, they are usually changed for safety reasons and conservation of the large number of moving parts that the tracks have.
Mike if you really wanna make that old 9560 embarrass those newer ones take the computer off and have it tuned with an extra 50hp and delete the DPF and egr. I did it to mine and it made it a whole new animal
That Johnny popper did pretty good for being 1xx hp less then anything else, would really like to know what the 620 jd 2 track has for a comparison against the 1167 fendt
I don’t think they make a 620 unless that’s new for 21?
True. Although the Fendt 1162 and 1167 have the same pulling power. The 1167 has 55 additional hp for the PTO and hydraulics. It uses 620hp for the drivetrain. But that’s still a 60hp difference. That 9560RT really is pulling hard.
@@Iamyourfather1 the most I’ve found is that you can order it with the 620hp engine and it’s called a “scrapper special”
@@Iamyourfather1 the newest 9rt570 has a boost to 627or something so basically its a direct competitor to the 1162 with 618hp.
Didn't you have a drone on site? Is that footage gonna show up somewhere?
Due to time and editing issues there will no longer be drone footage 😔.. Sorry
Ah Mike. speed an efficiency go hand in hand. Acres per hour and gallons per hour gives you gallons per acre. So just speed is only part of the story. I think that you would have had a better result by running in efficiency manager mode in all tractors. Especially in the John Deere's.
Snuck a nighter upload on us, can’t get one by me tho
So the fendt 2 track won ?
You mean to tell me the pylon could possibly come back from the dead? 🎉
That deere is a fighter!
Is it just me or does the RT shift quicker than the RX?
It does shift faster
The reason it's faster then 9620rx is because it's pre Def. A 500 hp pre emission engine pulls like a 600hp emissions engine. Cause the SCR, EGR, DPF and DEF emission system's robs at least 100hp from those engines. I know the 560 has EGR but it's still sort of pre emission. So even though the 9620rx quad has a power bulge that boosts it to 670hp it still only pulls like a 570hp pre emission motor, like the one in the 2 track.
The 1050 will probably throw down the quickest pass.
Yes, with NOS boost! 💪😁
Will after watching today video it was the slowest.
@@max-jc4wq By far.
one thing mike you need to rev those johny poppers up higher.
My brother in law farm in north eastern North Dakota and I have ran over some rocks chisel plowing and I have hit my head on the ceiling.
That’s my favorite tractor what a machine
Did you guys get any of the rain that the Welkers got?
I wished that I stayed closer to you I would try to get a job with.
Several of the lower hp Deere powered tractors out pull the higher hp Cummins powered Deere tractors in the Nebraska tractor test
Don't believe ebradk
Y'all see the jet the fly over about half way thru, was going to say it was a mig 29,but that would have been b.s. ok 5:05 maybe it was his brother blowing the soot out of his turbine crop duster, you can tell it has fixed landing gear.
You talking bout the drone they have out recording footage of this?
@@AndyCrumbaker it was airplane not drone.rite after 5 minute mark. Pause you can tell it is plane.
5:06 top right of the hood, all I see is a drone. Mike has someone out there flying a drone recording more footage.
Same here, all I’m seeing is the drone flying by recording footage.
When I paused I could see the 4 propellers on the drone.
You are basically trying to measure drawbar power. You could easily do this in a more consistent manner by measuring draw bar pull using a hydraulic cylinder with a pressure sensor as a link between the tractor and the implement and multiplying that by the tractor speed. (Power = pull x speed). Would be pretty easy to set up with the ISOBus to automate everything.
Hahah oh that's far beyond me 😂🤷🏻♂️ besides, that doesn't seem near as fun 😉