I had been fighting with the noise coming from my AirMini. It was ridiculous compared to the 3B Luna II that I had for years and it compared even less favorably to the AirSense 10 that is my new "daily driver". Finally found out that the cause was the connector used for the HME. Somehow that thing just amplifies the noise traveling up the hose. After some experimentation, I found the best option was to eliminate the HME altogether, use a Zephair adapter to a Qlite muffler which then runs to a 15mm slimline hose. It's important to use a 15mm hose (still uses a 22mm connector) because that is the diameter of hose that the AirMini is optimized for. This setup will cost you the use of the HME for heat and humidification, but it will significantly quiet down the airflow out of the machine.
Hey chuck. i've been struggling with noise. Yes!! It is the HME. It took a minute to understand. So - the device would look like : AirMini - Zephair adapter - Qlite muffler - 15mm Slim line hose - elbow -Nasal Mirage Fx nasal mask - yes?
I have the same issue. The breathing noise is loud. I love this input. What is a Zephair adapter? I think I found the Q Lite Kit online but not sure what a Zephair adapter is. Can you explain or tell me where to buy? Thanks!
@@janicerosenitsch9933 The Zephair adapter is a hose adapter that plugs into the AirMini, allowing you to use a hose with a standard 22mm end. You can google "Zephair Adapter" or "AirMini Tube Adapter." Amazon even sells something like that.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! This is exactly what I needed hear to help decide on so many choices. It's difficult to read the reviews out there without being able listen to it. Thank you for your fabulous work.
Thank you for the reviews. I've been struggling with all the information on line trying to figure out which is best for me. Your review was very helpful.
Unrelated to this video but I just want to thank you so much for your content, it's really helped me a lot during my process of adjusting to my machine. I'm on day 7 still haven't had a great night with it yet, usually only 2-3 hours, however, I got a new mask and am feeling super good about it tonight!
do you know why they do not make the dream station 2 anymore ? also what other cpap machines are available to use ? I now use the dream station 2 , I am very happy with it ,not very sure about the air sense 11, my wife tried it and had nothing but trouble with it, thank you
Thinking of getting a cape for travel and I guess the big issue is not how quiet it is in general as opposed to how loud it is with the mask on when you breath in and out, that's the challenge isn't it?
Being a new cpap user, I'm still learning about everything. My question is this. I work offshore, we already had a restrictive bag weight limit, but I just found out today that they have now lowered out bag weight limit again by 10 pounds. When I'm at work, I'm on the ship for a month, and sometimes 6 months at a time. What travel cpap unit would you recommend for this scenario?
AirMini would be great if you need reports at all. The BT allows you to upload to the cloud when you have internet access. So you can still get reports if needed. We have worked with boat pilots that need reporting in this exact scenario. Link below. cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-machines/travel-cpap-machines/resmed-airmini-auto-travel-cpap
I feel that if you have to use the muffler for the cpap to be quiet enough, it defeats the the purpose of making it small enough to travel with. Also I hate those big blocky plugs. They always take up all the space around them when you plug them into the wall. Better to have a regular plug and move the brick further down the wire.
there are waterless humidifiers but i have no experience with them yet, also they only fit certain masks by default. I made my own adapter to use my preferred mask but have not used it.
@@Ole.Schultz I think the noise would not be a problem for me... the idea of having a unit that is much lighter is very appealing for backpacking and cycling tirps.. or even work related plane trips ...
many of the above units have adapters for the hose, and they are all about the same noise levels; but you gave only the Z2 a strong do not recommend , why is there some other reasons? thanks
We still sell plenty of the Z2 and people like it. So hopefully I dont come off as a do not recommend in this video. For customers using the Z2 very often or as an everyday CPAP we have seen them have to be serviced.
Yes you can and the battery I would recommend would be either the Portable Outlet or the Freedom 160. Depending on which travel CPAP you are using. The AirMini with the Freedom 160 gets you a great duration. Would run for multiple days. Links below to options. cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-accessories/power-options/new-freedom-cpap-battery-160 cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-accessories/power-options/portable-outlet-cpap-battery
I had an HDM Z1. It was loud (even with the muffler). It worked for about 3 years, then it had the equivalent of “the blue screen of death” as it displayed an error message (fault 33) and, through research on the matter, it was determined as FUBAR. No servicing or reprogramming was possible! I would not even consider buying their Z2 because of this,
In 2017, I bought the HDM Z1 with the Power Shell and an extra battery mainly for travel use (about 40 days/year max). The Power Shell stopped working in 2019 (about 27 months after the purchase), and I had to purchase a new one. Another six months later, the HDM Z1 stopped working and gave me an error code 33, which usually indicates a low battery voltage issue. However, I got the same error code even when I disconnected the Z1 from the Power Shell and powered it directly from the wall charger. Despite having a rarely used Power Shell and a few batteries, I've decided not to take any more chances. I've just placed an order for the AirMini and the Medistrom Pilot-24 Lite Battery, both known for their reliability, to cater to my future travel needs.
Thank you for this comparison. I just completed my sleep study and am awaiting my first cpap machine. I would love to be directed toward other information for some specific use cases- or if you could speak to it another video. 1. I would like to use it off-grid in the back-country- what are the lightest weight battery options and everything surrounding powering the device off-grid. 2. I live at over 7,000’ and backpack in the range of 8500’ up to 13,000’, most commonly above 10,000 to 11,500. Information on these devices state they will work up to 8,500’. Can you please explain what this means for my hopeful use above that elevation. 3. Considerations for use with temperature from the high 20’s to low 40’s? 4. Solar panel use while backpacking and trying to keep a low pack weight. I hike around 20 miles a day and a low pack-weight is paramount, but so is good sleep. Thank you for your considered response for active outdoor enthusiasts who hope to continue adventuring in the backcountry.
Can we get a summary of what voltages these devices need? I have a Z2 Auto which runs on 12v and 15v which is great, can use with any USB PD powerbank or 12v in car. Which others here run 20v, 15v or 12v?
AirMini creates a VERY noisy airflow. I’ve tried multiple different setups: from the original AirMini-adjusted ResMed N10 and N20 masks with the humidifiers, as well as using an adapter for the AirMini outlet to connect with the universal tubing and N30i, Philips Respironics DreamWear. All are very noisy, especially in comparison with very quiet (with the same masks) ResMed 10 machine-created airflow. I ended up using earplugs with AirMini, which is OK-ish when using the machine for a day or two. Also, that filter cover on AirMini cracked right at the first time I tried to open it to change the filter.
I’m new myself and was informed by both my provider and Adapt Health (supplier) that insurance does not cover travel CPAPs. ☹️ You would have to check with your provider.
You can find a batter for any of them, but only a couple have designated batteries for them. LInk below to battery options. cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-accessories/power-options
with a build in battery you woul dhave a huge machine.... you have a battery separately that you can take if you will be off grid. I had a battery that I used with my Airsend 10, it was the largest batter the FAA allows on planes. Worked a charm for two years. If you are not going to be off grid, theny you do not need to lug battery with you. Btteris this size cannot be stored in your checked ba. They have to go on board with you.... and that coule pounds gets heavy after a hile if you are walking round airprts, train stations etc.....
Unique is defined as unlike ANYthing else. VERY UNIQUE is redundant. There is no such thing as very unique, special special maybe but unique is UNIQUE.
I had been fighting with the noise coming from my AirMini. It was ridiculous compared to the 3B Luna II that I had for years and it compared even less favorably to the AirSense 10 that is my new "daily driver". Finally found out that the cause was the connector used for the HME. Somehow that thing just amplifies the noise traveling up the hose. After some experimentation, I found the best option was to eliminate the HME altogether, use a Zephair adapter to a Qlite muffler which then runs to a 15mm slimline hose. It's important to use a 15mm hose (still uses a 22mm connector) because that is the diameter of hose that the AirMini is optimized for. This setup will cost you the use of the HME for heat and humidification, but it will significantly quiet down the airflow out of the machine.
Great input. Thank you.
Hey chuck. i've been struggling with noise. Yes!! It is the HME. It took a minute to understand. So - the device would look like : AirMini - Zephair adapter - Qlite muffler - 15mm Slim line hose - elbow -Nasal Mirage Fx nasal mask - yes?
I have the same issue. The breathing noise is loud. I love this input. What is a Zephair adapter? I think I found the Q Lite Kit online but not sure what a Zephair adapter is. Can you explain or tell me where to buy? Thanks!
@@janicerosenitsch9933 The Zephair adapter is a hose adapter that plugs into the AirMini, allowing you to use a hose with a standard 22mm end. You can google "Zephair Adapter" or "AirMini Tube Adapter." Amazon even sells something like that.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! This is exactly what I needed hear to help decide on so many choices. It's difficult to read the reviews out there without being able listen to it. Thank you for your fabulous work.
Glad that it was helpful!
I have been using the HDM Z1 for the past 6 years,,,,everyday....still running strong
That is great input. Thank you!
Thank you for the reviews. I've been struggling with all the information on line trying to figure out which is best for me. Your review was very helpful.
Unrelated to this video but I just want to thank you so much for your content, it's really helped me a lot during my process of adjusting to my machine. I'm on day 7 still haven't had a great night with it yet, usually only 2-3 hours, however, I got a new mask and am feeling super good about it tonight!
thank you for the positive feedback! Good Luck!
do you know why they do not make the dream station 2 anymore ? also what other cpap machines are available to use ? I now use the dream station 2 , I am very happy with it ,not very sure about the air sense 11, my wife tried it and had nothing but trouble with it, thank you
All the Phillips dream stations were recalled. The foam inside causes cancer- stop using those machines.
Philips is not distributing CPAPs at all right now.
Thinking of getting a cape for travel and I guess the big issue is not how quiet it is in general as opposed to how loud it is with the mask on when you breath in and out, that's the challenge isn't it?
Travel CPAPs are definitely more audible than home cpaps. But not too bad in most cases.
Being a new cpap user, I'm still learning about everything. My question is this. I work offshore, we already had a restrictive bag weight limit, but I just found out today that they have now lowered out bag weight limit again by 10 pounds. When I'm at work, I'm on the ship for a month, and sometimes 6 months at a time. What travel cpap unit would you recommend for this scenario?
AirMini would be great if you need reports at all. The BT allows you to upload to the cloud when you have internet access. So you can still get reports if needed. We have worked with boat pilots that need reporting in this exact scenario. Link below.
cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-machines/travel-cpap-machines/resmed-airmini-auto-travel-cpap
I feel that if you have to use the muffler for the cpap to be quiet enough, it defeats the the purpose of making it small enough to travel with. Also I hate those big blocky plugs. They always take up all the space around them when you plug them into the wall. Better to have a regular plug and move the brick further down the wire.
Thanks for the input.
Does anyone need humidifier with travel CPAP machine? I`m struggling with dryness in mouth when using travel machines, anyone has walkaournd yet?
there are waterless humidifiers but i have no experience with them yet, also they only fit certain masks by default. I made my own adapter to use my preferred mask but have not used it.
You can try an HME. That is what people on Travel CPAPs typically use. Link below explains this.
cpapmyway.com/blog/what-is-a-hme
@@CPAPmyway thanks!
Mouth tape combined with a couple pumps of mouth moisturizer saved my life!
Thank you for the reviews -great to see them compared.
Glad you like them!
When you say the Lunaand Breas Z2 can be used with any mask, just checking but is that really ANY mask including the Resmed F30i and F40 ?
Yes that is accurate.
Agree on the AirMini which i use for travels, my primary is AirSense 10
Thanks for the input.
I am looking into the mini right now. Tired of lugging the Airsense 10 all over the EU and the US ..... What do you like about it?
@@robdawson2 I like the compact size, it is a bit more nosier than AirSense 10. But after the first few nights it is not a problem for me.
@@Ole.Schultz I think the noise would not be a problem for me... the idea of having a unit that is much lighter is very appealing for backpacking and cycling tirps.. or even work related plane trips ...
Does the Z2 have the same error code 33 issues as its predecessor? It’s an internal battery situation that cannot be replaced.
Not sure about that code in particular. The battery should be able to be replaced.
many of the above units have adapters for the hose, and they are all about the same noise levels; but you gave only the Z2 a strong do not recommend , why is there some other reasons? thanks
We still sell plenty of the Z2 and people like it. So hopefully I dont come off as a do not recommend in this video. For customers using the Z2 very often or as an everyday CPAP we have seen them have to be serviced.
Can you use anyone of these four options while on a US commercial airplane? If yes, how would it be best to power the unit?
Yes you can and the battery I would recommend would be either the Portable Outlet or the Freedom 160. Depending on which travel CPAP you are using. The AirMini with the Freedom 160 gets you a great duration. Would run for multiple days. Links below to options.
cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-accessories/power-options/new-freedom-cpap-battery-160
cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-accessories/power-options/portable-outlet-cpap-battery
All of the them.
I had an HDM Z1. It was loud (even with the muffler). It worked for about 3 years, then it had the equivalent of “the blue screen of death” as it displayed an error message (fault 33) and, through research on the matter, it was determined as FUBAR. No servicing or reprogramming was possible! I would not even consider buying their Z2 because of this,
Thanks for the input.
In 2017, I bought the HDM Z1 with the Power Shell and an extra battery mainly for travel use (about 40 days/year max). The Power Shell stopped working in 2019 (about 27 months after the purchase), and I had to purchase a new one. Another six months later, the HDM Z1 stopped working and gave me an error code 33, which usually indicates a low battery voltage issue. However, I got the same error code even when I disconnected the Z1 from the Power Shell and powered it directly from the wall charger.
Despite having a rarely used Power Shell and a few batteries, I've decided not to take any more chances. I've just placed an order for the AirMini and the Medistrom Pilot-24 Lite Battery, both known for their reliability, to cater to my future travel needs.
Thank you for this comparison. I just completed my sleep study and am awaiting my first cpap machine. I would love to be directed toward other information for some specific use cases- or if you could speak to it another video. 1. I would like to use it off-grid in the back-country- what are the lightest weight battery options and everything surrounding powering the device off-grid. 2. I live at over 7,000’ and backpack in the range of 8500’ up to 13,000’, most commonly above 10,000 to 11,500. Information on these devices state they will work up to 8,500’. Can you please explain what this means for my hopeful use above that elevation. 3. Considerations for use with temperature from the high 20’s to low 40’s? 4. Solar panel use while backpacking and trying to keep a low pack weight. I hike around 20 miles a day and a low pack-weight is paramount, but so is good sleep. Thank you for your considered response for active outdoor enthusiasts who hope to continue adventuring in the backcountry.
I will get some info together and try to get a good video regarding all of this. Great questions.
Good review. I'm surprised you did not cover the HME requirement? Can you explain how that works?
We actually have a video on that specifically.
cpapmyway.com/blog/what-is-a-hme
and i want to know..what is the tubing you use?
Can I return it if I hate it and if my wife says it is too loud/noisy?
Typically CPAPs are not returnable, because they are medical devices.
Thank you very much for this excellent test. Made my choice easy.
Glad it helped!
Can we get a summary of what voltages these devices need? I have a Z2 Auto which runs on 12v and 15v which is great, can use with any USB PD powerbank or 12v in car. Which others here run 20v, 15v or 12v?
You should be able to see the electrical specs in the details of the product listing.
AirMini creates a VERY noisy airflow. I’ve tried multiple different setups: from the original AirMini-adjusted ResMed N10 and N20 masks with the humidifiers, as well as using an adapter for the AirMini outlet to connect with the universal tubing and N30i, Philips Respironics DreamWear. All are very noisy, especially in comparison with very quiet (with the same masks) ResMed 10 machine-created airflow. I ended up using earplugs with AirMini, which is OK-ish when using the machine for a day or two. Also, that filter cover on AirMini cracked right at the first time I tried to open it to change the filter.
Thanks for the input
I just found your channel I’m new to CPAP does insurance cover the travel machines?
I’m new myself and was informed by both my provider and Adapt Health (supplier) that insurance does not cover travel CPAPs. ☹️ You would have to check with your provider.
Most insurance does not cover travel CPAPs. Link below gives you a better explanation.
cpapmyway.com/blog/insurance-covered-travel-cpap-machines
It's a shame what happened to Philips Respironics. I havent slept as good without my Dream Station or Dream Station Mini since
Can you please do a review and explanation on asv and asv auto on air curve 11? Thank you
I will get that on the list
Great content. I would like size comparison to include power supply.
Got it. Thanks for watching.
Do none of these uses distilled water?
No water at all for these, since they don't have a humidifier.
Does any have built in lithium batteries. Sometimes the plane doesnt have a plug
This is a great question because that's a big factor when it comes to travel
@CPAPmyway
You can find a batter for any of them, but only a couple have designated batteries for them. LInk below to battery options.
cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-accessories/power-options
with a build in battery you woul dhave a huge machine....
you have a battery separately that you can take if you will be off grid. I had a battery that I used with my Airsend 10, it was the largest batter the FAA allows on planes. Worked a charm for two years.
If you are not going to be off grid, theny you do not need to lug battery with you. Btteris this size cannot be stored in your checked ba. They have to go on board with you.... and that coule pounds gets heavy after a hile if you are walking round airprts, train stations etc.....
Luna = BMC M1 mini?
It is a BMC I will have to see what the M1 mini means. It is called the TravelPAP.
Thanks, useful video, very sincerely done
Glad you liked it
Unique is defined as unlike ANYthing else. VERY UNIQUE is redundant. There is no such thing as very unique, special special maybe but unique is UNIQUE.