I finally ordered the 800130 from Summit Racing tonight. I just pray the thing transforms my 67 Camaro the way you talk about your 68. I live in a winding hilly part of Texas & it makes my Camaro feel dangerous to drive at times.
@@steelcantuna it’s a fantastic upgrade! I just ordered another 800130 for a 68 impala im doing this week with the same complaints. I did a set of upper control arms with built in caster that really helped steering stability too might wanna check it out as well.
@ impala turned out great! This box and pump combo makes these classics steer like a modern car, night and day difference compared to the original setup!
Im glad I found your video, Im working on my 70 Camaro and was looking for that precise information. Thank you very much. I live in Rincon, PR and we have an excellent muscle car community.
First, congrats on success after research decision. I am about to purchase box to replace the 298k '91 convertible 305 RS box as I build a 383 and changed to C5 wheels (245/45/17 frt). Also going brand new but cannot find any reviews on the Classic Ind. OER 2.5r $250, or Edelmann at Rockauto $373. Anything beats current sloppy Jalopy but wish there was more review info!
Great video. I have a 1969 Camaro and I would like to upgrade my steering gear box as well, but I want to stay with the OEM pump since I had it rebuilt. Any way the Borgeson will work with my OEM pump?
@@mikesilva1881 original pumps are set to run lower pressure, 800 if I remember correctly. The new box wants higher, around 11-1200 I think. I would call and ask their tech support maybe they could offer a way to up the stock pump pressure? Might work fine too I’m not sure I wanted all new components so I decided on their matching pump.
@@blackwinggarage in my application yes it is necessary. Older pumps run lower pressure than new style pumps. If you’re putting this in an old style small or big block do the pump as well, if it’s going into something LS swapped the stock modern pumps should be just fine. (Like a truck 5.3 pump) I want to say the borgeson pump runs around 1250psi and the box range was 1100-1300 if I remember correctly. The old Saginaw box was like 750-850 I think
@@ralphfoster6496 that’s exactly what it feels like! I was looking into rack and pinion conversions originally and there isn’t any good options for stock subframe so I decided to try this box.
I desperately want a rack set up for my 91 RS. I hate the way it handles compared to 97 RS and 99 Firehawk. I bought a quick steer $700 box from Orileys and it’s sloppy.
Nice install / review! Glad you like it, Thanks!
I finally ordered the 800130 from Summit Racing tonight. I just pray the thing transforms my 67 Camaro the way you talk about your 68. I live in a winding hilly part of Texas & it makes my Camaro feel dangerous to drive at times.
@@steelcantuna it’s a fantastic upgrade! I just ordered another 800130 for a 68 impala im doing this week with the same complaints. I did a set of upper control arms with built in caster that really helped steering stability too might wanna check it out as well.
Please let us know what the results are
@ impala turned out great! This box and pump combo makes these classics steer like a modern car, night and day difference compared to the original setup!
Im glad I found your video, Im working on my 70 Camaro and was looking for that precise information. Thank you very much. I live in Rincon, PR and we have an excellent muscle car community.
You’re very welcome! This is still one of the best upgrades for driveability that I done to the car you won’t be disappointed
Good info , thanks. I am thinking of adding a tilt column as well. Borgeson has reps at the YORK NSRA shows, I will get price /info from them there.
First, congrats on success after research decision. I am about to purchase box to replace the 298k '91 convertible 305 RS box as I build a 383 and changed to C5 wheels (245/45/17 frt). Also going brand new but cannot find any reviews on the Classic Ind. OER 2.5r $250, or Edelmann at Rockauto $373. Anything beats current sloppy Jalopy but wish there was more review info!
Great video. I have a 1969 Camaro and I would like to upgrade my steering gear box as well, but I want to stay with the OEM pump since I had it rebuilt. Any way the Borgeson will work with my OEM pump?
@@mikesilva1881 original pumps are set to run lower pressure, 800 if I remember correctly. The new box wants higher, around 11-1200 I think. I would call and ask their tech support maybe they could offer a way to up the stock pump pressure? Might work fine too I’m not sure I wanted all new components so I decided on their matching pump.
@@trbokmro thank you!
Is the pump critical to the installation? Does the Borgeson 800310 pump have a higher PSI rating?
@@blackwinggarage in my application yes it is necessary. Older pumps run lower pressure than new style pumps. If you’re putting this in an old style small or big block do the pump as well, if it’s going into something LS swapped the stock modern pumps should be just fine. (Like a truck 5.3 pump) I want to say the borgeson pump runs around 1250psi and the box range was 1100-1300 if I remember correctly. The old Saginaw box was like 750-850 I think
Would you say it steers as good as a rack and pinion?
@@ralphfoster6496 that’s exactly what it feels like! I was looking into rack and pinion conversions originally and there isn’t any good options for stock subframe so I decided to try this box.
I’m sold!
You won’t be disappointed!!!!
I desperately want a rack set up for my 91 RS. I hate the way it handles compared to 97 RS and 99 Firehawk. I bought a quick steer $700 box from Orileys and it’s sloppy.