Hello from Southeast Virginia. I figure I'll just get to it. haha Well, I had a (benign) brain tumor successfully removed last August but not before it had pressed against the left side of my brain, causing issues with the motor skills on my right side (dominant side). I lost the ability to write with my right hand for about 5 mos. and here I am teaching myself to write. I had terrible mechanics before surgery so I am excited to rebuild the fundamentals. Yours was the first video I clicked and that was it! Thanks for your hard work.
Great video! I am working to rehabilitate my once beautiful penmanship which deteriorated because of too much typewriter and then keyboard work. I have been using the Dynamic Tripod grip but after watching this I switched to the Penman Stroke. Evaluating the difference: my writing looks pretty much the same in the two methods but I have much less hand fatigue with the Penman Stroke! It really is about the placement of the thumb which makes the difference. If it’s positioned a bit higher up the pen, it can’t get involved and the index and middle finger end up doing the work. This change has made a big difference in muscular strain and now I can write for longer periods of time. I want to add that when I first tried Penman Stroke, I was trying to consciously use the index finger for the downward stroke and the middle finger for the upward stroke. That was completely uncoordinated. When I just let it happen ‘naturally’ and didn’t try to do anything except to keep the thumb out of the way, it just happened automatically. Thank you for this great video.
I had no idea I hold my pen incorrectly until I was 37. Now I'm in my 40s and still hold it the same way. My handwriting is great, but I do get pain and fatigue after prolonged writing. I tried to hold it in the dynamic tripod way, just out of curiosity, but it feels unnatural and I have no control over my handwriting whatsoever. So, I don't even bother trying to change my grip. Personally, I think the correct position is the one that works best for you.
You should try holding the tripod way. Writing in general felt uncomfortable when we were little but we grew out of that. I got used to it after a few tries and now l subconsciously use that position.
@@aliciasam5239 I tried several times, but it just seems unstable and I can't grip it firmly or control my moves to form nice letters. I think it might be too late to change, but it doesn't matter, as long as it works :)
Also as a reminder, guys, put the paper beside you and write, DO not put it at the side that is in front of your chest! That'd lead you to great fatigue and low angle for you to write. Take care.
As an artist I find the Lateral Quadrupod to be my choice to get the pencil to be more up and down and to give it more direct force to make darker lines. I will switch to other grips when shading, but my go to is the lateral Quadrupod since I can get fine control. However if I have to write a lot it can cramp my hand, but that is normal for almost everyone (give me a laptop any day).
Really thanks for the video! This is the first video I learn about pen gripping and it helped and gave me some insight on how to adjust my own pen gripping. I didn't "forget" to like and subscribe. Keep up the good work! Support from Hong Kong!
Thank you! I have a very strange pen posture that was never corrected when I was a child. The base of the pen rests on my ring finger, my middle finger is at the top center of the grip "controlling" the movements, and the index and thumb slightly higher up on the body of the pen with thumb crossing under the index. This means the outer edge of my palm rests on the paper. It doesn't impact my writing at all, and in fact people always say I have extremely beautiful handwriting, but people always freak out when they see me hold a pen.
Mine is quite similar to yours and people also comment on my grip… and then they see my handwriting they say how beautiful it is. My pen tip rests on the side of my ring finger with the middle and thumb (and some extent ring finger) controlling the movements. While my index/pointer finger is curled up out of the way resting on the upper part of the barrel. My handwriting has been beautiful proper cursive since the third grade and hours and hours of longhand notes taken in college without fatigue. I don’t think there is one proper grip for everyone and probably way to many to be categorized here. ;) but I loved it nonetheless. I might just try experimenting myself to see what it does;)
Initially I thought your ideas were thought provoking. Something I took for granted. Now since I've been listening to your ideas, I'm captivated by your accent. For real.
I have many issues with terrible handwriting and gripping too tight, had a middle finger callus through school, and now it still hurts to write. I've never had a pen that writes under its own weight, but I'm sure this would probably solve my issue
Hi! Great content! I am visually impaired (not blind). I must hunch over the paper to write. Anything I can do to heel less tension and improve my writing?
I noticed that I hold the pen a bit weirdly. I use 5 fingers to hold my pen. My pinky and ring finger at the point of the pen, my middle and thumb at the base, and my index finger further up hugging the top of the pen. I had some isues holding pencils since basic school and this is what I came up with. It allows me to write comfortably, but my pinky is a bit displaced. Only issue I have is that I smudge my paper if my hand is dirty lol
I prefer they dynamic tripod method. I am a primary school teacher and it was actually a state standard here in California to use this method. I just tell my students the following rhyme: Side, top, side: by this rule I must abide. They do get fountain pens if they can meet my cursive handwriting expectations. The four finger grips are more like lobster claw grips and do not help to find the sweet spot of a fountain pen nib. It is also about the proper angle when writing. Thank you for your video presentation.
Your videos are very helpful. I used to write by hand but f replaced it for a while and I noticed what I thought what I thought was humanly impossible because I thought writing was a natural thing: the handwriting I had now looks like a morse Codie or something. I understand what I write but others don’t seem to understand it.
At 8:07 you mention and older woman who did penmanship videos and primarily used her fingers to move the pen up and down. Do you remember who your were referring to here? Thank you!
Thank you so much! I just decided to change my grip as my last one runs my hand tired easily and it gets tense fast. I'll practice the tripod grip until my handwriting gets better again.
Interesting. When I was taught to handwrite everyone did this grip with the first 2 fingers round the front of the pen and the thumb at the back, yet someone else said that's only the case for ballpoint pens, but to hold a fountain pen they had the pen between the thumb and first finger.
I dont use any of these TvT I was never able to right correctly so when i was little i taut myself how to hold a pencil incorrectly I kind of do it like the first one, except i dont rest the pencil on my middle finger, i push on the pencil with my middle finger and my pointer finger, i also push on it with my thumb to keep it in place. Im going to learn how to learn it correctly!
Ignore him when it says it doesn't matter how you hold you pen - of course it does. Your grip should be light and gentle - just try a cramp position or with your index finger pressing down hard and having a 3 hour language exam, your hand will need serious medical help. You should control your pen fully and this can't be done with any closed grip either. There is a right and wrong way and the right way is 100% best. This guy holds his pen perfectly and this is what people should try and copy and I think he called it 'Dynamic Tripod'.
I went to a Bible Study for the first time. I was so happy to be there. Well one of the ladies asked for help. I went to help and Omgosh. She opened up to me. I thought it was safe to open up too because I really needed a friend. She crucified me. However, My faith has been strong since I was 10 years old. My whole being was at Bible Study to actually study the word. So, I missed the next Bible study because the enemy was telling me I was not welcomed there. I said to the enemy I don’t care. God wants me there. That is all that matters. God is good and I will not let one lady hurt my walk with Jesus. It’s not about people it’s about our walk with God!!!
well, i am left handed and i bend my wrist while writing... wanna know why? its because its hard to write with right handed desk or arm chair when u are left handed so, brrrttttt help?
One of friends in school was left handed and used to write with quite a bent. But seeing him write it felt natural, he also had one of the best and fastest writings in class. And here i am searching for why my handwriting and speed sucks 😂
I don't need to change my pen grip. Then why am I watching this? My Spanish teacher doesn't like my pen grip so I have to change the grip I've always used :/
@@onepenshow do you have instagram, facebook or any other platform where i can text you bro, look i know it may sounds very stupid but please don't ignore my message please, you have no idea how important it is for me to be your friend !! 🙏
@@guywithbigbrain9332 no, my middle finger is neither supporting nor even touching my pen while gripping. . I've tried to use 3 fingers like using 2 fingers and supporting the pen with middle finger under them, but it seems so awkward and uncomfortable.. I've switched to using 2 fingers only.. people say it's stylish n I left it this way ❤️.. it seems I really can't do anything about it
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Hello from Southeast Virginia. I figure I'll just get to it. haha Well, I had a (benign) brain tumor successfully removed last August but not before it had pressed against the left side of my brain, causing issues with the motor skills on my right side (dominant side). I lost the ability to write with my right hand for about 5 mos. and here I am teaching myself to write. I had terrible mechanics before surgery so I am excited to rebuild the fundamentals. Yours was the first video I clicked and that was it! Thanks for your hard work.
All the Best
god bless u
Great video! I am working to rehabilitate my once beautiful penmanship which deteriorated because of too much typewriter and then keyboard work. I have been using the Dynamic Tripod grip but after watching this I switched to the Penman Stroke. Evaluating the difference: my writing looks pretty much the same in the two methods but I have much less hand fatigue with the Penman Stroke! It really is about the placement of the thumb which makes the difference. If it’s positioned a bit higher up the pen, it can’t get involved and the index and middle finger end up doing the work. This change has made a big difference in muscular strain and now I can write for longer periods of time. I want to add that when I first tried Penman Stroke, I was trying to consciously use the index finger for the downward stroke and the middle finger for the upward stroke. That was completely uncoordinated. When I just let it happen ‘naturally’ and didn’t try to do anything except to keep the thumb out of the way, it just happened automatically. Thank you for this great video.
how is it now
12:00 your pen grip is an extension of your posture. Thanks for this idea!
I doubt it is my idea to begin with, so you can have it for free
Hi @@onepenshow , it is an idea that would benefit many
I have been watching hundreds of these videos and yours is by far the best. I think it may be your voice, its very soothing and calming to me!
Yeah it worked like ASMR
I had no idea I hold my pen incorrectly until I was 37. Now I'm in my 40s and still hold it the same way. My handwriting is great, but I do get pain and fatigue after prolonged writing. I tried to hold it in the dynamic tripod way, just out of curiosity, but it feels unnatural and I have no control over my handwriting whatsoever. So, I don't even bother trying to change my grip. Personally, I think the correct position is the one that works best for you.
You should try holding the tripod way. Writing in general felt uncomfortable when we were little but we grew out of that. I got used to it after a few tries and now l subconsciously use that position.
@@aliciasam5239 I tried several times, but it just seems unstable and I can't grip it firmly or control my moves to form nice letters. I think it might be too late to change, but it doesn't matter, as long as it works :)
Brother, Thanks for your content. I'm watching it from Rangpur, Bangladesh 🇧🇩.
Also as a reminder, guys, put the paper beside you and write, DO not put it at the side that is in front of your chest! That'd lead you to great fatigue and low angle for you to write. Take care.
This is a magic tip!
You need to emphasize the NOT instead of the DO, for the emphasis to be correct.
I tried this and my fountain pen stopped skipping and hard starting. You, sir/ma'am, are a genius.
As an artist I find the Lateral Quadrupod to be my choice to get the pencil to be more up and down and to give it more direct force to make darker lines. I will switch to other grips when shading, but my go to is the lateral Quadrupod since I can get fine control. However if I have to write a lot it can cramp my hand, but that is normal for almost everyone (give me a laptop any day).
Really thanks for the video! This is the first video I learn about pen gripping and it helped and gave me some insight on how to adjust my own pen gripping. I didn't "forget" to like and subscribe. Keep up the good work! Support from Hong Kong!
I subscribed because I like that you didn't edit out your mistakes but instead improvised which makes you very relatable and likable.
Thank you! I have a very strange pen posture that was never corrected when I was a child. The base of the pen rests on my ring finger, my middle finger is at the top center of the grip "controlling" the movements, and the index and thumb slightly higher up on the body of the pen with thumb crossing under the index. This means the outer edge of my palm rests on the paper. It doesn't impact my writing at all, and in fact people always say I have extremely beautiful handwriting, but people always freak out when they see me hold a pen.
It doesn't matter how u hold a pen, ur handwriting matters with that grip so in my opinion u shouldnt change ur grip
Mine is quite similar to yours and people also comment on my grip… and then they see my handwriting they say how beautiful it is. My pen tip rests on the side of my ring finger with the middle and thumb (and some extent ring finger) controlling the movements. While my index/pointer finger is curled up out of the way resting on the upper part of the barrel. My handwriting has been beautiful proper cursive since the third grade and hours and hours of longhand notes taken in college without fatigue. I don’t think there is one proper grip for everyone and probably way to many to be categorized here. ;) but I loved it nonetheless. I might just try experimenting myself to see what it does;)
I loved this, Thank you so much.
Thanks, I appreciate your comment Erin
Initially I thought your ideas were thought provoking. Something I took for granted. Now since I've been listening to your ideas, I'm captivated by your accent. For real.
I have many issues with terrible handwriting and gripping too tight, had a middle finger callus through school, and now it still hurts to write. I've never had a pen that writes under its own weight, but I'm sure this would probably solve my issue
Very helpful for my kids. Thank you!
Hi! Great content!
I am visually impaired (not blind). I must hunch over the paper to write. Anything I can do to heel less tension and improve my writing?
Thanks for sharing. What is the fountain pen used in the video?
I'm 15 ...and im here because I can't write neatly
Me too
I noticed that I hold the pen a bit weirdly. I use 5 fingers to hold my pen. My pinky and ring finger at the point of the pen, my middle and thumb at the base, and my index finger further up hugging the top of the pen. I had some isues holding pencils since basic school and this is what I came up with. It allows me to write comfortably, but my pinky is a bit displaced. Only issue I have is that I smudge my paper if my hand is dirty lol
I prefer they dynamic tripod method. I am a primary school teacher and it was actually a state standard here in California to use this method. I just tell my students the following rhyme: Side, top, side: by this rule I must abide. They do get fountain pens if they can meet my cursive handwriting expectations. The four finger grips are more like lobster claw grips and do not help to find the sweet spot of a fountain pen nib. It is also about the proper angle when writing. Thank you for your video presentation.
Your videos are very helpful. I used to write by hand but f replaced it for a while and I noticed what I thought what I thought was humanly impossible because I thought writing was a natural thing: the handwriting I had now looks like a morse Codie or something. I understand what I write but others don’t seem to understand it.
Good thing you didn't pay for it then!
I'm coming to your channel late, but I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
Glad to hear it. I will add more videos shortly.
I have aweird way of holding a pen
At 8:07 you mention and older woman who did penmanship videos and primarily used her fingers to move the pen up and down. Do you remember who your were referring to here? Thank you!
Thank you so much! I just decided to change my grip as my last one runs my hand tired easily and it gets tense fast. I'll practice the tripod grip until my handwriting gets better again.
a lot of people would kill for your handwriting, it is legible and looks pretty
Interesting. When I was taught to handwrite everyone did this grip with the first 2 fingers round the front of the pen and the thumb at the back, yet someone else said that's only the case for ballpoint pens, but to hold a fountain pen they had the pen between the thumb and first finger.
Is it possible to change form four finger grip to three fingers grip at age 22, because I have been trying this but not being able to adapt it
Yes it is, but it will take a lot of practice I imagine. Both are fine, plenty of people write with four fingers, so the question is why you'd want to
Yes, I did it in 1 week
@@myname2291 how did you do ? Plzz recommend me something .. i am also 23 , i have developed a weird grip from last 2 yrs
i've seen majority of americans dont know how to hold a pen, it's unbelievable.
quick question what ink where you using?
Nice explanation..
Thank you this helped me a lot
Thank you soo much for the help 🤗🤗
I hold my pen in dynamic tripod but I feel a slight stretch which Later develops into mild pain while writing 🙁
Tq Sir
I find with the lateral I can’t see what I’m doing. It also feels very cramped. Great video.
If I dont have the cap ( pen cover ) on the end of the open .. I cant write well, its like giving a height and weight that balance it perfectly.
Let me tell ya'll, This will go a long way. 😉
What job do you do?
I dont use any of these TvT I was never able to right correctly so when i was little i taut myself how to hold a pencil incorrectly I kind of do it like the first one, except i dont rest the pencil on my middle finger, i push on the pencil with my middle finger and my pointer finger, i also push on it with my thumb to keep it in place. Im going to learn how to learn it correctly!
What a king
Ignore him when it says it doesn't matter how you hold you pen - of course it does. Your grip should be light and gentle - just try a cramp position or with your index finger pressing down hard and having a 3 hour language exam, your hand will need serious medical help. You should control your pen fully and this can't be done with any closed grip either. There is a right and wrong way and the right way is 100% best. This guy holds his pen perfectly and this is what people should try and copy and I think he called it 'Dynamic Tripod'.
Great vid
When writing, his voice makes my head feel odd
2:47
You forgot to say forget to subscribe in the End.
Just found out, I use my hand to write and not my fingers....Interesting.! Thanks.
I went to a Bible Study for the first time. I was so happy to be there. Well one of the ladies asked for help. I went to help and Omgosh. She opened up to me. I thought it was safe to open up too because I really needed a friend. She crucified me. However, My faith has been strong since I was 10 years old. My whole being was at Bible Study to actually study the word. So, I missed the next Bible study because the enemy was telling me I was not welcomed there. I said to the enemy I don’t care. God wants me there. That is all that matters. God is good and I will not let one lady hurt my walk with Jesus. It’s not about people it’s about our walk with God!!!
well, i am left handed and i bend my wrist while writing... wanna know why? its because its hard to write with right handed desk or arm chair when u are left handed so, brrrttttt help?
I can imagine lefties have trouble, but I am not a leftie myself so I'll have to investigate.
What do you need help with specifically?
What is a right handed desk? Have you tried just turning it around? 😎
@@mrcvry r/wooosh
One of friends in school was left handed and used to write with quite a bent. But seeing him write it felt natural, he also had one of the best and fastest writings in class. And here i am searching for why my handwriting and speed sucks 😂
Tho my writing position is perfect, i still feel a strain when i try writing faster. Maybe it's just because i have a lil bit of camptodactyly 🥺
I hokd it between index and middle....
Subscribed
Thanks J Film
Dynamic tripod squad
Messed up your fountain pens? I cracked the tips of several, so much for writing 🤣
I don't need to change my pen grip. Then why am I watching this? My Spanish teacher doesn't like my pen grip so I have to change the grip I've always used :/
Yeah that's to bad. There really isn't any difference, science says so
@@onepenshow Wow you're so fast replying! Btw loved your video
@@thespaceguy5975 Thanks I appreciate it
Posture! You have to sit correctly!
Love ur friytfull 😚😚😚
Asx hxle hand se jyada subtitle dikh ra he
Good video for americans
i used to use 4 finger but i was told it was wrong grip and i am a fucking idiot lol
lateral is kind of painful after some second
Are you South African?
Nope but I am late!
Dutch.
@@onepenshow lol, no prob...i only asked because you sound like Trevor Noah!
@@dragonchr15 Didn't know that
@@dragonchr15 Maybe I should go to South Africa and blend in
Hello, I have a proplem that i use 5 fingers.
Can we be friends ?🙂
Depends on whether you're friendly!
@@onepenshow i am incredibly gentle and very friendly, i can be the most friendliest person you are about to know !! Please bro let me be your friend
@@libroslover3889 Haha ok let's do it
@@onepenshow do you have instagram, facebook or any other platform where i can text you bro, look i know it may sounds very stupid but please don't ignore my message please, you have no idea how important it is for me to be your friend !! 🙏
@@libroslover3889 I'm afraid I do not, I just have UA-cam.
You're so cute!
You are so quite Oshala👍❤❤❤❤❤❤
Well thanks that's a nice thing to say.
30 years old and I don't have a good pen grib
I hold a pen correctly and still have the worst handwriting and my hand hurts
Do you write with left hand ?
If you saw my handwriting you will immedietly get a heart attack my writting can make world record of shittiest handwritting in the world
Well perhaps although my heart can handle quite a lot
@@onepenshow yes surely but there's a bit improvement in my handwritting beacause of you thanks
Man, if your hand writing is bad... what do i even do.
Buy a computer
Why do I use only 2 fingers??
What it's three the one finger below pen also counts.
@@guywithbigbrain9332 no, my middle finger is neither supporting nor even touching my pen while gripping. . I've tried to use 3 fingers like using 2 fingers and supporting the pen with middle finger under them, but it seems so awkward and uncomfortable.. I've switched to using 2 fingers only.. people say it's stylish n I left it this way ❤️.. it seems I really can't do anything about it
@@Rahul-ni5re I haven't seen anyonedo that but nice I guess.
@@guywithbigbrain9332 haha.. atleast I can do one thing not many people can do it seems if it's true not many use 2 fingers... But thanks 😊
ASMR
i think i forgot
I smell dutch
Very bad method, don't teach this wrong method to others
Your handwriting looks the exact same in all positions. Your point?